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Communists submitted to the State Duma a draft law “On the basis of nationalization in the Russian Federation”

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A group of deputies from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation headed by Gennady Zyuganov submitted to the State Duma a bill on the fundamentals of nationalization in the Russian Federation, reports RIA News.




According to the document, “nationalization means compulsory forcible seizure of privately owned property and its conversion into federal property in order to ensure state forces of the Russian Federation related to improving the overall efficiency and social orientation of the economy, ensuring national security and sovereignty of Russia, ensuring the rule of law, social rights of citizens and the preservation of national wealth. "

It is noted that "nationalization is a last resort and is carried out only on the basis of adopted federal laws, and on a reimbursable basis with a preliminary and equivalent reimbursement by the Russian Federation of the value of property and other losses caused to the owner as a result of nationalization."

At the same time, nationalization is not a punishment or a way to ensure the fulfillment of obligations.

“Nationalization can be carried out through the withdrawal of property and its conversion into federal property, the increase in the value of property at the expense of the federal budget (including by increasing the authorized (share) capital of the organization to a controlling stake or state share over 50%), transferring the state-controlled control organization a stake (shares, shares) of the nationalized company, as well as methods not prohibited by law, the document says.

The authors identified the grounds for the application of the law. These include, in particular, “the threat of a massive reduction in the staff of a city-forming or socially significant organization, the recognition of a strategic enterprise as bankrupt, the monopolistic or dominant position of an enterprise, the privatization of state-owned enterprises with violation of current legislation or at deliberately low prices, the acquisition by foreign capital of controlling equity stakes societies created on the basis of state-owned enterprises-monopolists, other circumstances. "
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 14 February 2018 12: 07
    +37
    The law is necessary. I would add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw free of charge. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time.
    1. forester
      forester 14 February 2018 12: 16
      +29
      Quote: 210ox
      The law is necessary. I would add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw free of charge. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time.

      Chatter - if you really wanted to, then in the 96th when you really won the election, you took power - but didn’t - they are happy with everything, because you don’t need to talk and talk and you don’t have to answer for anything - the babosiks are falling pretty well - and their sternum from the same opera - the usual rich farewell - balalaika
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 14 February 2018 12: 22
        +36
        Quote: forester
        and their sternum from the same opera - the usual rich farewell - balalaika ...
        - I won’t argue anything, I’ll just say: EVERYTHING IS IDEAL !!! They have us like that, between the rest ... I know: Putin will win. But I will vote for Grudinin: as for HOPE!
        1. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 14 February 2018 12: 25
          +19
          Of course, I wildly apologize, but tell me: Is your hope a huckster in power? An example Ukraine does not impress you?
          1. Father of a Soldier
            Father of a Soldier 14 February 2018 12: 30
            +7
            Quote: CAT BAYUN
            Of course, I wildly apologize, but tell me: Is your hope a huckster in power? An example Ukraine does not impress you?

            Are you talking about Grigorich?
          2. oldseaman1957
            oldseaman1957 14 February 2018 12: 39
            +8
            Quote: KOT BYUN
            An example Ukraine does not impress you?
            - There is such an interesting thing as MENTALITY ... So, Russians are spiritually not dirty people! Ready for self-sacrifice, if it penetrates. And your "Ukraine" is not applicable to Russia!
            1. CAT BAIYUN
              CAT BAIYUN 14 February 2018 12: 50
              +9
              Mentality is and it exists. Only the mentality of people trading everywhere is the same.
              Nothing to do at the helm of the country trader. Well, there is no place for him there.
              Russians - the people are not spiritually dirty! Ready for self-sacrifice if SPREAD

              one confuses - the word if. And I'm not talking about the people anymore. I mean your hope, Mr. Grudinin. I doubt that he will penetrate something there. It is dependent on the existing financial system. And who is leading her now? Our "sworn partners".
              Do you need this?
              1. Stirbjorn
                Stirbjorn 14 February 2018 13: 19
                +2
                Quote: KOT BYUN
                Mentality is and it exists. Only the mentality of people trading everywhere is the same.
                Nothing to do at the helm of the country trader. Well, there is no place for him there.

                Wait, his name is a collective farmer, how is your dad ?! What huckster is that ?! wassat
              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 45
                +11
                Nothing to do at the helm of the country trader.
                So you are against the current president? After all, it was he who privatized oil in favor of Qatar, and on the horizon the joint ownership of the Kuril Islands and the Far Eastern hectares for the Chinese.
              3. mari.inet
                mari.inet 15 February 2018 15: 32
                +3
                I agree with your opinion. Especially with reference to "sworn partners." In recent weeks, I got the impression that it’s the “sworn partners” from the West who skillfully made and promoted Zyuganov-Grudinin’s election campaign. Because all this two-hodovka with castling, timely drafted bills on nationalization and other points are too well worked out. It doesn’t look like Zyuganov, and it was he who should have the full power in the event of the election of Grudinin. Oh, and they’ll do things in Russia with this little scribble. "Partners" do not care who comes to power with us, if only not for a strong Putin.
        2. woron333444
          woron333444 14 February 2018 12: 27
          +12
          Ukrainians, too, had hope for lace shorts.
        3. ustinov.yuri
          ustinov.yuri 14 February 2018 12: 32
          +10
          Oh yeah! Indeed, Khodorkovsky himself approved and supports him.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 14 February 2018 13: 08
            +1
            Quote: ustinov.yuri
            After all, SAM Khodorkovsky approved and supports
            He and Hodor in Putin were “disappointed” after 2000; Hodor in 2003 as planted, or earlier, and Grudinin in 2010, judging by the exit from the EP. How people who call themselves Communists can vote for someone in the late 90s (at the age of 40, not 16!) Was B. Berezovsky’s political ally, is unclear.
            1. Stirbjorn
              Stirbjorn 14 February 2018 13: 21
              +10
              Quote: Stanislav
              He and Hodor in Putin were “disappointed” after 2000; Hodor in 2003 as planted, or earlier, and Grudinin in 2010, judging by the exit from the EP. How people who call themselves Communists can vote for someone in the late 90s (at the age of 40, not 16!) Was B. Berezovsky’s political ally, is unclear.

              Grudinin was a political ally of Berezovsky ?! wassat you give, before that even Life News and the channel Russia did not think laughing
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 14 February 2018 14: 07
                0
                Quote: Stirbjorn
                Grudinin was a political ally of Berezovsky ?! you give, before that even Life News and the channel Russia did not think
                You don’t need to think here: hammer in the search for “unity 1999”, read about the “Unity” block and you will be happy.
                1. Stirbjorn
                  Stirbjorn 14 February 2018 14: 34
                  +10
                  Quote: Stanislav
                  You don’t need to think here: hammer in the search for “unity 1999”, read about the “Unity” block and you will be happy.

                  Reading - Wikipedia
                  UNITY - The All-Russian public conservative political movement, formerly known as the electoral bloc (BEAR) and later the Unity party, which existed in Russia from 1999 to 2001. Created to participate in the elections to the State Duma of the 3rd convocation and support for Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin for the presidential election. On December 1, 2001, the Unity party was reorganized into United Russia.
                  are these allies of Berezovsky ?! - that's the news laughing
                  1. Stanislas
                    Stanislas 14 February 2018 23: 13
                    0
                    Quote: Stirbjorn
                    are these allies of Berezovsky ?!
                    Up to half of the wiki article is non-violent? A little further there is the text:
                    ... the success of Unity in the elections was influenced by support from Boris Berezovsky
                    And then we look at an article about Grudinin on the same resource
                    In his own words, in 1999 he joined the Unity party
                    We continue to laugh ...
              2. Gardamir
                Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 47
                +8
                in give
                Wait until the election, they tell such tales. And ask them who betrayed the Olympians, who disowns the Syrian ichthamnets, shut up and pretend that they were not standing there.
        4. yehat
          yehat 14 February 2018 12: 41
          +2
          for Grudinin: as for HOPE

          Grudinin’s name is not Nadia, but Pasha.
          1. oldseaman1957
            oldseaman1957 14 February 2018 12: 45
            +7
            Quote: yehat
            Grudinin’s name is not Nadia, but Pasha.
            - Maybe Vasya. But it’s for me on the drum. Yes, I'm not talking about "Pasha" ...
        5. Archivist Vasya
          Archivist Vasya 14 February 2018 13: 20
          +15
          That's right, if you vote for anyone, it’s only for Grudinin. He is now of course drowned as they can, you never know. Putin has not boosted the economy in 18 years; military-industrial complex alone is not enough.
          1. Genry
            Genry 14 February 2018 15: 08
            +5
            What raised Grudinin is not visible.
            But what he managed to squeeze and withdraw to foreign accounts is already in sight and cannot be covered up with anything!
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 50
              +10
              it’s already in sight and nothing to cover!
              and you don’t have evidence, but you will buzz. But your friend of the oligarchs, whom he does not abandon, has really put the country on its knees.
              1. Genry
                Genry 14 February 2018 15: 52
                +1
                Quote: Gardamir
                because you have no evidence but you will buzz

                He himself claimed 40% of the property (how much he squeezed out and kept for himself) on the allegedly "state farm" and plus accounts in foreign banks that he was trying to hide (how much he had squeezed out).
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 14 February 2018 16: 17
                  +8
                  He himself declared
                  Which are all gullible. He also said of the same, there is no money, all the money went to compote.
        6. Orionvit
          Orionvit 14 February 2018 14: 31
          +1
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          I know: Putin will win. But I will vote for Grudinin: as for HOPE!

          “I know that my wife is holy, but still I look at the neighbor with“ HOPE ”, and suddenly he will. And he doesn’t give a damn, but from the outside it looks“ gorgeous. ”
      2. AUL
        AUL 14 February 2018 14: 12
        +4
        Yes, such a law will never pass through our Dumaks. Purely populist step grandfather Zu. And the guarantor firmly said recently - there will be no revision of the results of privatization!
        But suppose, as delirium, that such a law was adopted.
        1. Who will determine what property should be returned to the state?
        2. Who and how will determine the amount of compensation to the owner?
        3. Who will manage the nationalized good?
        It turns out a new grandiose feeder for officials, nothing more.
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 51
          +9
          . Who will determine
          By this principle, all laws can be prohibited. Who determines that a guarantor guarantees something?
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 41
        +6
        when did you really win the election
        What is your evidence? Remember the Swan bird? He passed his votes to Yeltsin, and the caravan is coming.
      4. alekc73
        alekc73 14 February 2018 15: 58
        0
        Like everything is simple with you. We wanted it. We took it. We wouldn’t give it by force. The EBN went all the way to the end. Therefore, we did not dispute the election results.
      5. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 14 February 2018 16: 30
        +3
        It is very interesting how liberals will comment on this document?
        Especially those in power. What absurdities will they carry, like "impossible", "impossible", "dangerous" ..? Although, when the country was robbed, they didn’t say such a thing about privatization. What kind of arguments will these be?

        And, here it is: "... nationalization is not a punishment or a way to ensure the fulfillment of obligations" is better to remove.
        For privatization, they didn’t come up with excuses when they took the country, otherwise the law also tries to apologize for nationalization.
        This is how privatization was carried out, in the same way, in reverse, and nationalization.
        There they “grabbed” for vouchers for free, but here, damn it .., give compensation! Pitchfork sideways, not compensation!
      6. olegator
        olegator 14 February 2018 17: 11
        +1
        100% right. Another "duck" from the pseudo-communists. No one bothered to do all this before. And now they will begin to howl before the election: how they have so good things so bad and they are not allowed to adopt such beautiful laws.
    2. Berber
      Berber 14 February 2018 12: 20
      +6
      The law is necessary. But there is a loophole for kleptocrats, this is an assessment of nationalized property. Everything that is connected with money at us automatically becomes a cause for corruption.
      1. Per se.
        Per se. 14 February 2018 13: 00
        +7
        Quote: BerBer
        The law is necessary.
        The law is necessary, but all this can work only when the social system is changed, when you leave the foreign pole of power. However, from what it is necessary to begin here.
    3. astepanov
      astepanov 14 February 2018 12: 20
      +10
      Quote: 210ox
      If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw for free.

      Correctly. Do not use your wife - to make her public property, And without compensation.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 22
      +21
      First of all, it is necessary to nationalize the extractive industries and energy.
      It is necessary to restore a single energy system.
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 14 February 2018 12: 34
        +1
        Quote: Stroporez
        First of all, it is necessary to nationalize the extractive industries and energy.
        It is necessary to restore a single energy system.

        You see, This is already a real project. And you are "strawberries in the suburbs"
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 48
          +13
          Quote: Chertt
          You see, This is already a real project. And you are "strawberries in the suburbs"

          This is one of the points of the program of the national patriotic forces team, of which Grudinin is a candidate.
      2. Genry
        Genry 14 February 2018 15: 11
        +6
        Quote: Stroporez
        First of all, it is necessary to nationalize the extractive industries and energy.
        It is necessary to restore a single energy system.

        First of all, it is necessary to amend the Constitution. Namely, it is necessary to return the position that natural wealth belongs to the people ... And create a State Bank, instead of a private Central Bank, not responding to the state’s debts (not lending to state programs) and ready to disappear at any second.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 14 February 2018 15: 13
          +9
          Quote: Genry
          First of all, it is necessary to amend the Constitution. Namely, it is necessary to return the position that natural wealth belongs to the people ... And create a State Bank, instead of a private Central Bank, not responsible for the debts of the state (not lending to state programs)

          All these provisions are in the program of Grudinin!
          1. Genry
            Genry 14 February 2018 15: 49
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            All these provisions are in the program of Grudinin!

            In his program, you can write anything you want, and you can chat as much as he does well. Only on business, he is a thief (he took possession of people and drove money into foreign accounts) and should not rule the state (the thief should sit ....).
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 14 February 2018 15: 55
              +4
              Quote: Genry
              Only on business, he is a thief (he took possession of people and drove money into foreign accounts) and should not rule the state (the thief should sit ....).

              Come on belay I have not heard anything about it request And can you give me more details, well, a reference or a criminal case number?
    5. Svarog
      Svarog 14 February 2018 12: 23
      +21
      Quote: 210ox
      The law is necessary. I would add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw free of charge. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time.

      The law can be adopted only if the Communists have a majority in the Duma, as Edra has now, or the Communist becomes president. And so, of course, edro will not allow this, you can’t just tear off billionaires from the feeder. In general, only the nationalization of alcohol will give the budget 8 trillions. not to mention the "public domain." The law is absolutely necessary, our billionaires must earn with their own minds, and not rob people. And the "national treasure" must be real national. Let them invest the loot in the development of medicine, machine tools, software, and pharmaceuticals. industry, agriculture .. in general, a long list, because everything is very neglected.
      1. Loess
        Loess 14 February 2018 12: 33
        +3
        Quote: Svarog
        Let them invest the loot in the development of medicine, machine tools, software, and pharmaceuticals. industry, agriculture .. in general, a long list, because everything is very neglected.

        In principle, I agree with you, but from your comment it seems that the "public domain" is alcohol laughing good
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 14 February 2018 13: 21
          +9
          Quote: Less
          Quote: Svarog
          Let them invest the loot in the development of medicine, machine tools, software, and pharmaceuticals. industry, agriculture .. in general, a long list, because everything is very neglected.

          In principle, I agree with you, but from your comment it seems that the "public domain" is alcohol laughing good

          "Public Domain" - an advertisement on Gazprom TV))) Well, here you can include all natural resources. Well, alcohol, of course, property)) It is not in vain that under the tsar, that under the communists, this sphere was in the hands of the state ..
      2. Nasrat
        Nasrat 14 February 2018 12: 34
        +4
        Quote: Svarog

        The law can be adopted only if the Communists have a majority in the Duma, as Edra has now, or the Communist becomes president. And so, of course edro will not allow this, you can’t just tear off billionaires from the feeder.



        The funny thing is that the current Communists are the same millionaires! wassat More precisely, these are millionaires who play the Communists ..... If compared with Pal Korchagin, then Grudinin is the first enemy !!! bully
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 59
          +12
          Quote: Nasr
          these are millionaires who play the Communists ..... If compared with Pal Korchagin, then Grudinin is the first enemy !!!

          Grudinin non-partisan!
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 14 February 2018 13: 33
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            Grudinin non-partisan!
            He is a conjuncturist: in 2010 he left EdR, sensing that the places were quiet, there was nothing to catch ...
            1. AUL
              AUL 14 February 2018 14: 26
              +8
              Quote: Stanislav
              Quote: Stroporez
              Grudinin non-partisan!
              He is a conjuncturist: in 2010 he left EdR, sensing that the places were quiet, there was nothing to catch ...

              Did you think well when you issued this statement? Left the EDRA (ПЖВ), because there is nothing to catch there? And why then does not all of our crooks leave him?
              I think I got out of there, because it became disgusting.
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 14 February 2018 14: 40
                +1
                Quote: AUL
                I think I got out of there, because it became disgusting
                I wanted to insert a smiley with a laugh, but changed my mind, this is not good ... No comment.
                And why then does not all of our crooks leave him?
                I do not track the movement of the crooks on the DG. But for Grudinin in power since 1997, as if plastered with honey.
            2. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 54
              +5
              He is a conjuncturist:
              Are you talking about the one who joined the CPSU in order to get into the office and left when Bablishko began to pester pens?
              1. Stanislas
                Stanislas 14 February 2018 23: 46
                0
                Quote: Gardamir
                Are you talking about the one who joined the CPSU
                No, this is about the one who became Putin's confidant in 2000, when he did not know him at all, but saw that he was supported by oligarchs. It was then used blindly, and now, probably.
          2. Nasrat
            Nasrat 14 February 2018 13: 36
            0
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Nasr
            these are millionaires who play the Communists ..... If compared with Pal Korchagin, then Grudinin is the first enemy !!!

            Grudinin non-partisan!

            Well then, in general, the circus! Communist Party candidate-non-partisan ... here are magicians with clowns!
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 14 February 2018 13: 44
              +12
              Quote: Nasr
              Well then, generally a circus! Communist Party candidate-non-partisan ... here are magicians with clowns!

              Grudinin is a candidate primarily from the PDS of the NPSR, which included more than a hundred parties and social movements, and the Communist Party also entered this coalition.
              The Grudinin program is a consolidated program of left and nationally oriented forces.
              Everything is detailed here.
              possible from 7.30 if it is short.
              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 14 February 2018 15: 40
                +1
                I didn’t see or hear anything new .... three balabol ..
            2. Gardamir
              Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 55
              +7
              Well then, in general, the circus!
              And do not say for a self-nominated candidate the entire electoral fund of EdRo has gathered.
              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 14 February 2018 16: 08
                0
                again they nod to Putyatya .. didn’t the mother teach to answer for herself?
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 14 February 2018 13: 24
          +12
          Quote: Nasr
          Quote: Svarog

          The law can be adopted only if the Communists have a majority in the Duma, as Edra has now, or the Communist becomes president. And so, of course edro will not allow this, you can’t just tear off billionaires from the feeder.



          The funny thing is that the current Communists are the same millionaires! wassat More precisely, these are millionaires who play the Communists ..... If compared with Pal Korchagin, then Grudinin is the first enemy !!! bully

          Nothing funny, now there are no communists, there are socialists. And the fact that there are millionaires among them, I see nothing wrong. The important thing is that they are going to implement. Read the 20 steps of the Communist Party ..
          1. Nasrat
            Nasrat 14 February 2018 13: 38
            0
            Quote: Svarog

            Nothing funny, now there are no communists, there are socialists. And the fact that there are millionaires among them, I see nothing wrong. The important thing is that they are going to implement. Read the 20 steps of the Communist Party ..

            You yourself heard what you said - the party is called the Communist Party, but there are no communists (!), But there are socialists (!) ... wassat guys, rename the party - SPRF !!!! DO NOT fool people! Stop collecting votes for the name of the party !!
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 14 February 2018 15: 02
              +11
              United Russia is also a party, but Russia whom? Fair Russia - is it fair? or maybe it’s Putin’s tame party ?, LDPR-they are really a liberal party, etc. If you look at your logic, then we generally do not match the names of the parties ..
              1. Nasrat
                Nasrat 14 February 2018 15: 33
                0
                Here they like to translate the arrows at us, “hey they have there ...." Can you answer for yourself? Why is the Communist Party called so if there are no communists?
                And as for edrosov, Zhirik and others, including the Communist Party - they all eat from the same feeder, they came up with different names only ... Nothing Zhirik is different from Zyu, like Miroshka buffoon .. and others
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 14 February 2018 15: 57
                  +5
                  How does Zhirik differ from Zyu
                  And from Pu ...?
                  1. Nasrat
                    Nasrat 14 February 2018 16: 09
                    0
                    Vovka them and contains ...- this is one gang !! bully
                2. Svarog
                  Svarog 14 February 2018 17: 35
                  +6
                  Quote: Nasr
                  Zhirik is no different from Zyu, like Miroshka the buffoon .. and others

                  Zyuganov has a program unlike the others .. Is this nothing for you?
            2. Stanislas
              Stanislas 15 February 2018 00: 13
              +1
              Quote: Nasr
              Stop collecting votes for the name of the party!

              The capitalization of the brand "Communist Party" is their main occupation, and the "Socialists" - our brand is not untwisted, what's the big deal?
      3. astepanov
        astepanov 14 February 2018 14: 42
        +1
        Quote: Svarog
        In general, only the nationalization of alcohol will give the budget 8 trillions.

        So, we consider. In Russia, 140 million souls, 40 million old people, children and teetotalers off - there are one hundred lemons left. It turns out that at 80000 rubles per capita - this is only profit, but there is also enterprise income, packaging, logistics, production costs. At current prices for vodka, a quarter-a-day bubble is produced for a conscious citizen, and if costs are taken into account, then one and a half bubbles. Guard, commies want to drink the country for good! Or triple the price of swipes. It will not work, gentlemen! Attempt at the holy!
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 14 February 2018 15: 04
          +5
          Quote: astepanov
          Quote: Svarog
          In general, only the nationalization of alcohol will give the budget 8 trillions.

          So, we consider. In Russia, 140 million souls, 40 million old people, children and teetotalers off - there are one hundred lemons left. It turns out that at 80000 rubles per capita - this is only profit, but there is also enterprise income, packaging, logistics, production costs. At current prices for vodka, a quarter-a-day bubble is produced for a conscious citizen, and if costs are taken into account, then one and a half bubbles. Guard, commies want to drink the country for good! Or triple the price of swipes. It will not work, gentlemen! Attempt at the holy!

          You would first learn to count)) 8 trill. is the income to the state budget. And what prices do you pledge for vodka? And do not confuse alcohol with vodka. And not only vodka is made from alcohol ..
      4. Vadim237
        Vadim237 14 February 2018 19: 57
        0
        And the company "People's property" pay decent taxes to the budget and provides work for half a million people - in addition, like everyone else, "We nationalize and will transfer money to the people to everyone and everyone," and it’s not clear what kind of money will be spent on: transport, process oil, pay wages to workers, upgrade equipment and develop oil gas production and everything else. So the slogans "We nationalize" - for suckers.
    6. Abrash
      Abrash 14 February 2018 12: 24
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw for free.

      You’ll be careful, otherwise you will arrive one day after a business trip to your house — and it will turn out to be not yours anymore — but the state one and another family of officials, security officials is already living ...
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 14 February 2018 13: 27
        +7
        Quote: Abrasha
        Quote: 210ox
        If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw for free.

        You’ll be careful, otherwise you will arrive one day after a business trip to your house — and it will turn out to be not yours anymore — but the state one and another family of officials, security officials is already living ...

        Have you thought about how old your house is now, really yours? What is the difference from housing, which is on the balance sheet of the state? and why a huge number of Muscovites are in no hurry to privatize their housing?
    7. Father of a Soldier
      Father of a Soldier 14 February 2018 12: 25
      +9
      Quote: 210ox
      The law is necessary. I would add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw free of charge. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time.

      Yes, of course, this law is now being wrapped up in the EP, but the good distributed free of charge during the time of Eltsin-Chubais should be returned, first of all, enterprises extracting minerals and hydrocarbons should be nationalized.
    8. win
      win 14 February 2018 12: 31
      +11
      If the territory, buildings are not used - withdraw free of charge.

      I read that in the Netherlands there has been something similar for a long time.
      Agricultural land should be effective!
      If the yield is lower than the national average, the land is forcibly removed
      and give it to the applicants.
      No private ownership of land. All land is for rent.
    9. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 14 February 2018 12: 34
      +6
      For starters, it’s very nice to get acquainted with the text of the bill itself. In any bills, the preamble declares concern for the people, but then from the text this concern disappears somewhere.
      There is nothing to discuss now.
    10. Serg65
      Serg65 14 February 2018 12: 36
      +6
      hi Приветствуем!
      Quote: 210ox
      Law needed

      Yeah, especially in terms of increasing the corruption component! good
    11. Imh
      Imh 14 February 2018 12: 50
      0
      The law is very, very necessary! To finish off Russia. Are you Russophobe?
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 14 February 2018 12: 56
        +4
        Quote: IMH
        Are you Russophobe?

        belay Is this so evident in my words?
    12. HUMANOID
      HUMANOID 14 February 2018 13: 02
      +2
      The law is necessary. I would also add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw for free. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time
      . The same thing with respect to agricultural land - do not use for its intended purpose - withdraw !!!
      1. AUL
        AUL 14 February 2018 14: 31
        +2
        Quote: HUMANOID
        The same applies to agricultural land - do not use for its intended purpose - withdraw !!!
        So in the suburbs and seized with might and main! There are now palaces towering.
    13. Vend
      Vend 14 February 2018 13: 08
      0
      Quote: 210ox
      The law is necessary. I would add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw free of charge. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time.

      As soon as the elections, the Communists propose reasonable laws, and then they disappear somewhere.
    14. vlad66
      vlad66 14 February 2018 13: 11
      +7
      Quote: 210ox
      But I think that this law will not pass. Or dragged on indefinitely

      Of course will not work laughing The Bucket has more than 300 seats in parliament, and even that is not the point, but that 60% of the country's population sat on sofas in September 2016 and now argues what kind of life is shitty, what kind of thought is oak, and it’s not hot to look in the mirror. laughing And such a moment, where was the beautiful Gene Zyug before when, from 1995 to 2003, he ruled in the Duma? Why only now what
    15. Boris Chernikov
      Boris Chernikov 14 February 2018 14: 00
      +2
      necessary, only the “communists" beautifully deduced on this topic that the government should pay for the manager’s squint instead of banal bankruptcy and seizure
    16. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 18: 06
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      The law is necessary. I would add the following. If the territory, buildings are not used, withdraw free of charge. But I think that this law will not pass. Or delayed for an indefinite time.

      strange nationalization from the Communists on a .... reimbursable basis !!! what what laughing laughing laughing probably another fraud for Grudinin push !!! belay lol lol lol
  2. solzh
    solzh 14 February 2018 12: 08
    +7
    nationalization is a last resort and is carried out only on the basis of adopted federal laws, and on a reimbursable basis with a preliminary and equivalent reimbursement by the Russian Federation of the value of property and other losses caused to the owner as a result of nationalization

    Not now the Communists have gone. Nationalization on a reimbursable basis. Rave. One must act according to Lenin's and Stalin's. Only in this way will the meaning of nationalization be. And what the Communist Party offers ordinary purchase and sale.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 16
      +11
      Quote: solzh
      Not now the Communists have gone. Nationalization on a reimbursable basis. Rave. One must act according to Lenin's and Stalin's. Only in this way will the meaning of nationalization be. And what the Communist Party offers ordinary purchase and sale.

      Nationalization and confiscation are two big differences.
      1. Berber
        Berber 14 February 2018 12: 22
        +12
        By the way! At the same time introduce a law on confiscation, this is for those who do not like nationalization.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 February 2018 19: 59
          0
          You should be careful with your desires - and then suddenly raider seizures and illegal confiscation of property - will become legal and many, including ordinary citizens, will suffer from this.
      2. solzh
        solzh 14 February 2018 12: 27
        +1
        With socialist nationalization, the seizure of property plays an important role, since without them there is no way to deprive the bourgeois system of its economic supremacy and distribute products within the framework of a planned economy. Nationalization in the Soviet Union was carried out through the adoption of the “Land Decree”, according to which private ownership of land was completely abolished, and the entire territory of the country declared public property.

        In the general understanding of confiscation is called the forced seizure of property as a measure of criminal law. It is carried out in an effort to prevent individuals from enriching themselves through crime or to compensate for the damage caused by the criminal to the victim. Those. confiscation is a sanction applied to a specific person for an offense
        1. win
          win 14 February 2018 12: 37
          +6
          "Land Decree", according to which private property was completely abolished


          Private property is holy and inviolable.
          The larger the size of the property, the more holy it is.
          A list of all the saints is published annually by Forbes magazine. laughing
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 14 February 2018 12: 40
          +10
          Quote: solzh
          solzh

          The fact is that the Grudinin team proposes to revise the 90s privatization deals.
          In the event that the transactions were carried out illegally (and this is a fact), then the assets will become the property of the state, that is, confiscated.
          If property was privatized at a reduced cost, it is proposed to nationalize with payment of the original amount to the owner.
          Personally, I am for nationalization on the Soviet principle.
          1. win
            win 14 February 2018 12: 51
            +6
            The more the official loves the motherland, the greater part of the motherland
            he is trying to transfer to his private property hi

            1. Berber
              Berber 14 February 2018 14: 52
              0
              This is called monetization of patriotism.
          2. yehat
            yehat 14 February 2018 12: 57
            +1
            legitimacy in the 90s thing is generally strange
            depended on the interpretation of the law.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 14 February 2018 13: 01
              +4
              Quote: yehat
              legitimacy in the 90s thing is generally strange
              depended on the interpretation of the law.

              Nothing has changed, just changed the screen.
            2. Berber
              Berber 14 February 2018 14: 51
              +1
              Now, in terms of refereeing, the situation has not changed much. I would have dispersed the entire judiciary. Yes, and I would have transplanted lawyers. That's where the corruption mafia is.
    2. Stanislas
      Stanislas 14 February 2018 13: 54
      +1
      Quote: solzh
      ordinary sale
      Suppose I bought a hectare of land, gave all the money, I didn’t receive any loans, and it hung. Fair - give me my money and use the land more efficiently? Even if I did not buy it, but paid for a long-term lease and cannot use it effectively, then a fee for the term of use is withheld, and return the rest. Otherwise, there will be an endless robbery; banks are able to create situations where the use of any means of production is ineffective.
  3. Giant thought
    Giant thought 14 February 2018 12: 09
    +8
    There are few chances for the adoption of this law in the Duma, the liberal majority of the EP will not allow it to carry out the law necessary for the country, because the deputies from EP think about personal well-being, and not about the well-being of the country.
    1. woron333444
      woron333444 14 February 2018 12: 31
      +3
      But do the Communists think about the welfare of the country? Another blah blah. Grudinin so far cannot decide where to hide his foreign accounts.
    2. tasha
      tasha 14 February 2018 12: 35
      +1
      Maybe, on the contrary, they will support it. Now, in order to realize an unnecessary or unprofitable enterprise, some efforts are needed to find a buyer. And so, after nationalization, you can get good compensation from the state ... I wonder what percentage will be taken for inclusion in the list for nationalization?
    3. Serg65
      Serg65 14 February 2018 12: 46
      +6
      Quote: Thought Giant
      the liberal majority of the EP will not allow this law to be carried out for the country

      And not only liberal, but also sane will be against!
      1. Imh
        Imh 14 February 2018 12: 54
        0
        Obviously! But not all common truths are obvious.
    4. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 February 2018 20: 02
      0
      With a high probability this nationalization can lead to stoppages and then bankruptcy of production.
  4. Gray brother
    Gray brother 14 February 2018 12: 11
    +8
    Actually a rather dumb idea, i.e. you can collect loans on a legal entity and dump them for permanent residence in Naglia, and the state will pay debts to banks - beauty.
    In general, he lost his last confidence in Zyu after a feint with Grudinin. He sold his voters to the huckster and did not frown.
    1. Father of a Soldier
      Father of a Soldier 14 February 2018 12: 28
      +5
      Do not make a mistake, the Communists have never recognized the debts of others, you are my friend a provocateur.
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 14 February 2018 12: 48
        +6
        Quote: Soldier's father
        Communists never recognized other people's debts,

        yes Right! only paid these debts regularly and on time wink
      2. Gray brother
        Gray brother 14 February 2018 13: 04
        +3
        Quote: Soldier's father
        Do not make a mistake, the Communists have never recognized the debts of others, you are my friend a provocateur.

        Where did you find the Communists in the Communist Party?
  5. Solomon Kane
    Solomon Kane 14 February 2018 12: 12
    +11
    Demons got into the State Duma, the brain swam from the Duma sideboard, from caviar, pies, at a pretty penny price, dope rushing over the edge, as an example, parliamentarians exaggerate legislation:
    The Russian parliament decided to tax the collection of mushrooms and berries. Deputies believe that citizens who collect wild gifts of nature and sell them are required to pay a special tax.

    Frightened .... fool
    1. cniza
      cniza 14 February 2018 12: 16
      +4
      They rather broke away from real life, but something needs to be done, and such laws are obtained. Kostya hi
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 14 February 2018 12: 27
        +6
        They create the appearance of violent activity in direct duties. yes
        1. cniza
          cniza 14 February 2018 12: 33
          +2
          And what else should they do, they pick it out, it is not clear from which place the laws are.
    2. You Vlad
      You Vlad 14 February 2018 12: 43
      +2
      Quote: Solomon Kane
      The Russian parliament decided to tax the collection of mushrooms and berries. Deputies believe that citizens who collect wild gifts of nature and sell them are required to pay a special tax.

      This is another fake!
      The Ministry of Agriculture said that such an initiative never existed. “The information that appeared in the media that the Ministry of Agriculture advocates the introduction of a license for the collection of wild mushrooms is fiction and does not correspond. reality, ”the press service of the Ministry of Agriculture of Russia said.
      And who benefits from this, I am in the know wink
      1. Solomon Kane
        Solomon Kane 14 February 2018 12: 53
        +3
        The information that appeared in the media that the Ministry of Agriculture advocates the introduction of a license for the collection of wild mushrooms is fiction and does not correspond. reality "

        Respected! What are you talking about? Where did I write "Ministry of Agriculture"? Talk about DG is ... belay
        And then the forest and its "wealth" is the prerogative of the Federal Forestry Agency ... Collective farmers with wild mushrooms somehow do not fit ..... request
        1. You Vlad
          You Vlad 14 February 2018 13: 14
          +1
          I apologize! Are you sure about this?
          Moscow. February 13. INTERFAX.RU - The State Duma is ready to amend the legislation so that the "silent hunt" helps people earn a living.
          "Today, in accordance with the current Forest Code, if a person wants to sell harvested mushrooms, he must rent a forest plot. This is written in Section 4, Article 32 of the Forest Code. Paradox? I think so! At the same time, the current regulatory documents allow you to rent such a plot of at least 10 years, "writes Nikolai Nikolaev (United Russia), the head of the State Duma committee on natural resources, property and land relations, on his Facebook page.
          As a result, he noted, if earlier whole villages lived on the harvest of forest fruits, now people are deprived of the possibility of such earnings.
          "Is this fair? I think not. I need to give such an opportunity - I am sure that this is necessary," the parliamentarian stressed.
          Nikolaev explained what needs to be done in this situation. According to him, people should be given the right to sell the mushrooms and berries that they harvested. “If we give such an opportunity, then, as once, people in the villages will be able to earn money,” the deputy writes.
          "For this, it is necessary to change the legislation. We are working on this, we are developing a bill that will enable people to earn money," the representative of the parliamentary majority said.
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 14 February 2018 13: 45
            +4
            With all due respect, I do not focus on the adopted laws and regulations, not on the field or forest ..... I am talking about those "bright parliamentary initiatives" that are born on the sidelines of the Duma, remember, for example, Milonov’s initiative called "Failure to abortion" or fresh - passing exams at the traffic police when changing rights with an expired term, but is it not heresy?
            1. You Vlad
              You Vlad 14 February 2018 13: 50
              +1
              Elections Dear hi Now everyone is dancing in what much!
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              "A quitrent for abortion"

              I would honestly generally cover this abortion shop, it’s not humanly!
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              fresher - passing exams at the traffic police when changing rights with an expired term, but is it not heresy?

              I agree that at work, the peasants swear, but it turned out to be not so terrible as hell.
  6. astepanov
    astepanov 14 February 2018 12: 14
    +6
    Already passed nationalization. In 1917 year. Together with war, devastation, famine and repression. What is characteristic, the Bolsheviks even then sang songs very pleasant for hearing: "factories to workers, land for peasants, women for peasants, gingerbread for children, teeth for old people." Now they started singing again. They sing under Grudinin. But only in the draft law there is not a single line about where the money will come from for fair compensation. The State Bank will not give - according to the law it is not allowed. And foreign banks will not give. So, wait for the expropriations. Then we will be surprised when the export of capital takes on a REALLY mass character. With all the consequences - including civil war and the collapse of the country.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 14 February 2018 12: 25
      +9
      Quote: astepanov
      Already passed nationalization. In 1917 year. Together with war, devastation, famine and repression. What is characteristic, the Bolsheviks even then sang songs very pleasant for hearing: "factories to workers, land for peasants, women for peasants, gingerbread for children, teeth for old people." Now they started singing again. They sing under Grudinin. But only in the draft law there is not a single line about where the money will come from for fair compensation. The State Bank will not give - according to the law it is not allowed. And foreign banks will not give. So, wait for the expropriations. Then we will be surprised when the export of capital takes on a REALLY mass character. With all the consequences - including civil war and the collapse of the country.


      And now compare the industry of RI to the 1917 year and the industry of the USSR to the 1941. The period in 24 is a year, where there is a revolution and civil war and a type of devastation.
      Actually, devastation is an allegory that was invented for the red phrase. For what devastation where there was nothing to destroy? The RI industry was below the plinth.
      The real devastation happened after the 1991.
      For so:
      Nationalization is creation, privatization is devastation.

      Proven by history. hi
      1. Serg65
        Serg65 14 February 2018 12: 50
        +4
        Quote: shuravi
        devastation is an allegory that was invented for the red words. For what devastation where there was nothing to destroy?

        recourse Blessed is he who believes!
        1. shuravi
          shuravi 14 February 2018 13: 12
          +4
          Quote: Serg65
          Quote: shuravi
          devastation is an allegory that was invented for the red words. For what devastation where there was nothing to destroy?

          recourse Blessed is he who believes!


          Are you talking about yourself? May be. I’m used to relying on facts.
          However, you can tell me why the construction of the GPP has become one of the paramount tasks for the young Soviet state.
          The fact that without a bearing no technique can be built is understandable. But you are hinting that everything was good with this in RI. bully
          1. Serg65
            Serg65 14 February 2018 14: 03
            +4
            Quote: shuravi
            But you are hinting that everything was good with this in RI.

            For true admirers of the history of Russia and the USSR!
            9 February 1916, "by the hand of His Imperial Majesty" signed the idea of ​​the formation of the Russian joint stock company "SKF Ball Bearing".
            This was no accident: the construction of five automobile plants was planned, and bearings of Russian production were needed as air.

            At the former mechanical factory of the Swedish trading house Schwarzkopf, Dzirns and Kolnas, acquired by the company, Shabolovka launched the production of ball bearings in small batches. In fact, bearings were assembled from rings and balls brought from Sweden. By the end of 1916, SKF built here on Shabolovka a new housing for the future bearing plant, which they did not manage to put into operation. Shortly after the revolution, the plant was nationalized.

            You can familiarize yourself with the topic in more detail here: http://www.leanok.ru/2015/06/skf-riv-timken.html
            hi Good luck to you!
            1. shuravi
              shuravi 14 February 2018 15: 12
              +4
              Quote: Serg65
              Quote: shuravi
              But you are hinting that everything was good with this in RI.

              For true admirers of the history of Russia and the USSR!
              9 February 1916, "by the hand of His Imperial Majesty" signed the idea of ​​the formation of the Russian joint stock company "SKF Ball Bearing".
              This was no accident: the construction of five automobile plants was planned, and bearings of Russian production were needed as air.

              At the former mechanical factory of the Swedish trading house Schwarzkopf, Dzirns and Kolnas, acquired by the company, Shabolovka launched the production of ball bearings in small batches. In fact, bearings were assembled from rings and balls brought from Sweden. By the end of 1916, SKF built here on Shabolovka a new housing for the future bearing plant, which they did not manage to put into operation. Shortly after the revolution, the plant was nationalized.

              You can familiarize yourself with the topic in more detail here: http://www.leanok.ru/2015/06/skf-riv-timken.html
              hi Good luck to you!


              That's exactly what in small batches. After that, it’s somehow even inconvenient to ask you how many own aircraft engines the squalor of RI produced. bully
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 14 February 2018 19: 01
                +4
                Quote: shuravi
                After that, it’s somehow even inconvenient to ask you

                It’s also not convenient for me to ask, but still ..... how many USSR did cell phones produce per year?
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 14 February 2018 19: 09
                  +3
                  Quote: Serg65
                  Quote: shuravi
                  After that, it’s somehow even inconvenient to ask you

                  It’s also not convenient for me to ask, but still ..... how many USSR did cell phones produce per year?

                  And how many Russia produces them?
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 14 February 2018 20: 22
                    +4
                    Quote: Svarog
                    And how many Russia produces them?

                    smile Those. the question form itself didn’t bother you?
                    I don’t know how many smartphones are produced now, but in May of 2014, Yota Devices sold 40 000 devices and foreseeing your righteous anger and crying “lies”, I will quote the words of Mobile-review.com Editor-in-Chief Eldar Murtazin
                    This product can be fully called Russian development, for the first time in a long time. Our design, concept and idea, which are finalized to the mind and brought to a "living" state. It is this fact that causes me delight, the prototypes are brought to the stage where they can be used, and this happened for the first time for a Russian company.

                    wink
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 14 February 2018 20: 49
                      +3
                      Quote: Serg65
                      Those. the question form itself didn’t bother you?

                      The question was posed incorrectly and provocatively when the USSR was a cell phone in general there was no where, well, maybe in a piece copy ..

                      Quote: Serg65
                      Yota Devices sold 40 devices and foreseeing your righteous anger and a cry of “lies”, I will quote the words of the Chief Editor of Mobile-review.com Eldar Murtazin

                      Quote: Serg65
                      I don’t know how many smartphones are produced now, but in May of 2014, Yota Devices sold 40 000 devices and foreseeing your righteous anger and crying “lies”, I will quote the words of Mobile-review.com Editor-in-Chief Eldar Murtazin

                      Quote: Serg65
                      I don’t know how many smartphones are produced now, but in May of 2014, Yota Devices sold 40 000 devices and foreseeing your righteous anger and crying “lies”, I will quote the words of Mobile-review.com Editor-in-Chief Eldar Murtazin

                      Of course it's a lie .. This brand has died out, or rather died .. This phone is absolutely not competitive. . For the sake of curiosity, you can go to any salon and ask. You will be described in detail all its shortcomings. And they make it completely in China, from ours it only has a name .. For this reason, I do not see any reason for pride at all.
                      1. Serg65
                        Serg65 15 February 2018 07: 09
                        +4
                        Quote: Svarog
                        The question was not posed correctly.

                        laughing But my question is not much different from this question.
                        Quote: shuravi
                        how many own aircraft engines did the squalor of RI produce.

                        Quote: Svarog
                        This brand has died out, or rather died

                        Yes, unfortunately this is so, but he died in connection with the events of the 2014 year.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        This phone is absolutely not competitive

                        laughing At the same time, 60% of sales were exported1 But the point is not whether he died or not, the fact is that Russia produced a smartphone to the Communists evil! laughing
                        Quote: Svarog
                        And make it completely in China,

                        laughing laughing laughing good
                        My dear, and Samsung, Simns, where do they make Nokia ????
                        what For 100 years nothing has changed, still the Communists hang noodles on the ears of gullible Russians recourse
      2. yehat
        yehat 14 February 2018 13: 00
        0
        nationalization is not always a creation.
        1. shuravi
          shuravi 14 February 2018 13: 12
          +2
          Quote: yehat
          nationalization is not always a creation.



          But privatization is always ruin.
          1. yehat
            yehat 14 February 2018 13: 24
            0
            What about the American federal system? something does not seem to have collapsed in 100 years.
    2. Gardamir
      Gardamir 14 February 2018 16: 07
      +2
      the Bolsheviks then sang songs very pleasant for hearing: "factories to workers, land to peasants, women to peasants, gingerbread for children, teeth for old people".
      And what is wrong?
      But Gorbachev-Yeltsin-Putin was never called into the dark realm of capitalism, but brought. So who cheated?
    3. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 14 February 2018 19: 14
      +1
      friend, you won’t believe it, but war, devastation and famine come without nationalization and with (that’s shock and awe! news!) privatization.
      And yes. The Bolsheviks that lied? Or all the knowledge of the native history is gingerbread, as well as women with and without teeth? Well this is sad. To put it mildly.
      Communist Party (bourgeois party) and Grudinin (oligarch) sing sorry what? Like the Bolsheviks (by which I understand you have the Communists) or not, But in principle they have nothing to do with this sweet couple. This is stupid centrists.
      I have two news for you! If this goes on and on, then the money will flow away safely and so (the system was created just for this) and a civil war with collapse will also happen inevitably. There will be no limit to surprise.
  7. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 14 February 2018 12: 23
    +1
    It is high time, but most likely, words will again go apart with deeds. "Socially responsible businessmen" are categorically against.
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 February 2018 12: 24
    +4
    on a reimbursable basis with preliminary and equivalent reimbursement by the Russian Federation of the value of property and other losses
    So what is this nationalization. This is a forced sale. Yes, not those who became communist capitalists.
  9. Loess
    Loess 14 February 2018 12: 25
    +2
    It is noted that "nationalization is a last resort and is carried out only on the basis of adopted federal laws, and on a reimbursable basis with a preliminary and equivalent reimbursement by the Russian Federation of the value of property and other losses caused to the owner as a result of nationalization."
    Yeah, for example, a communist will come to power and how he will begin to nationalize everything, how he will start ... Here we’ll nationalize your factory, and in return you will have a village for food, you already have two small plants - you, my dear, town to feed ... For more There is nothing to compensate ... Otherwise, it turns out not nationalization, but ransom ...
    1. yehat
      yehat 14 February 2018 13: 01
      +2
      Well this is not a bad option. Now we are rolling into a hole that is deeper.
      1. Loess
        Loess 14 February 2018 13: 17
        0
        Let me disagree with you.
  10. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 14 February 2018 12: 27
    +2
    Some things definitely need to be returned to State control.
    The only thing I would not want is the next excesses on this topic.
    Careful need.
    1. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 14 February 2018 13: 12
      +2
      I agree. So that it does not slip before the nationalization of chickens and shovels at Baba Zina.
  11. Evgeny Strygin
    Evgeny Strygin 14 February 2018 12: 39
    +3
    when they cease to be called communists. I can also be called a fish, but I’d better not start swimming.
  12. Lexus
    Lexus 14 February 2018 12: 39
    +3
    I do not catch the connection between the two terms - "nationalization" and "paid". What then is the need for such a law? If, for example, your house is on the map of a promising construction site, you will be “squeezed out” of it even now without any problems.
  13. Umnichka
    Umnichka 14 February 2018 12: 40
    0
    The Kremlin begins to nationalize, the Communists are, as it were, the initiator. After the elections, a little movement will begin in this direction. We will see...
    1. Evgeny Strygin
      Evgeny Strygin 14 February 2018 18: 59
      +1
      what to watch? privatization went on and on.
  14. Imh
    Imh 14 February 2018 12: 49
    0
    They decided to finish off the Russian economy? (The immortal words of Lavrov are asked here very, very)
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 14 February 2018 16: 10
      +2
      The immortal words of Lavrov
      Your Lavrov himself is like that, it’s time for him to rest. And your Shuvalovs and Dvorkovichs are finishing the economy.
      1. Imh
        Imh 14 February 2018 16: 25
        0
        Whose is yours?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 14 February 2018 19: 15
          0
          Whose is yours?
          It is clear from the discussion. Some for Russia, others in the service of the oligarchs. Those in the service are ready to justify everything and drain the Olympics and the death of Russians in Syria. Yes, mercenaries are prohibited, but these are our people. And imagine, for example, to Putin today an SMS has arrived, you are leaving Syria, you are taking the Donbass and the entire left-bank Ukraine. Well, you have to think about it quickly and rebuild the entire ideology by 180. But again, 146 percent in the elections.
  15. cedar
    cedar 14 February 2018 12: 49
    +1
    Quote: solzh
    nationalization is a last resort and is carried out only on the basis of adopted federal laws, and on a reimbursable basis with a preliminary and equivalent reimbursement by the Russian Federation of the value of property and other losses caused to the owner as a result of nationalization

    Not now the Communists have gone. Nationalization on a reimbursable basis. Rave. One must act according to Lenin's and Stalin's. Only in this way will the meaning of nationalization be. And what the Communist Party offers ordinary purchase and sale.

    Not buying and selling ... Well, how many budgets will it be necessary to give to the proprietors of the privatization, to cajole them and to prevent the West from raising them to a riot? Russian and merciless ...
    See the root. The Communist Party wants to buy a cheap image for itself and Grudinin for the remnants of public confidence ...
  16. Jack
    Jack 14 February 2018 12: 53
    0
    This is where the main assets are: https://www.rbc.ru/economics/23/08/2017/599d1b159
    a7947429264a69d
  17. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 14 February 2018 13: 21
    +1
    All the steam will go off! Even if they do not hope that the comprador power of Russia will allow this bill to exist!
  18. BecmepH
    BecmepH 14 February 2018 13: 42
    +1
    Quote: 210ox
    The law is needed.

    Of course you need.
    First privatized for a penny, now privatizers nationalize their privatized and low-fat state. In the West, such a "fat" can not even imagine. Communist Party in the strike!
    "You give the first lines in the Forbes list"
  19. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 14 February 2018 16: 51
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    nationalization is a last resort and is carried out only on the basis of adopted federal laws, and on a reimbursable basis

    Then this is not Nichrome nationalization, but requisition, and we already have this concept in the Civil Code for about 20 years.
    Mr. deputies are engaged in garbage for our taxes.

    Although, on the other hand, if you pay in fairness, namely, with the amounts that were paid for property during collateral auctions - then yes, you can think about it.
  20. keeper03
    keeper03 14 February 2018 20: 27
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    This had to be done the day before yesterday !!! hi
  21. Russia we
    Russia we 14 February 2018 22: 36
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    Quote: forester
    and their sternum from the same opera - the usual rich farewell - balalaika ...
    - I won’t argue anything, I’ll just say: EVERYTHING IS IDEAL !!! They have us like that, between the rest ... I know: Putin will win. But I will vote for Grudinin: as for HOPE!

    stupid-huckster with foreign accounts. He wanted to spit on Russia, the Russian Orthodox Christian, on the Russian Orthodox Christians, on the people of Russia the Russian Orthodox Christian. For Putin, you must vote or for Zhirinovsky. I will vote for Putin!
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 14 February 2018 23: 04
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      Quote: Russia we

      stupid-huckster with foreign accounts. He wanted to spit on Russia, the Russian Orthodox Christian, on the Russian Orthodox Christians, on the people of Russia the Russian Orthodox Christian. For Putin, you must vote or for Zhirinovsky. I will vote for Putin!


      You’re the main thing, do not break your forehead from excessive zeal.
  22. tracer
    tracer 14 February 2018 23: 03
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    Strange !!!!! It seems to be "take and share" again, but for some reason I FOR both hands!
    Here are just a sn Grudinina I will not vote for anything. Only for Putin. No time now is nonsense ... looming
  23. Vadim237
    Vadim237 14 February 2018 23: 23
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    The next one is a senile bill from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, unprecedented opportunities for raider seizures by the authorities of what they will put their eyes on.
  24. Russia we
    Russia we 16 February 2018 01: 46
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    Quote: Vadim237
    The next one is a senile bill from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, unprecedented opportunities for raider seizures by the authorities of what they will put their eyes on.

    Raider capture does not coincide with nationalization. Nationalization is when it belongs to the people and the country-state and works for the benefit of the people and the country.
    Your comment, if you put it mildly, is stupid.
    Raiding (from the English raid, raid, or raider, hijacker [1]) is an unfriendly (in Russia usually forceful [2]) takeover of an enterprise against the will of its owners, who have a predominant position in this enterprise, and / or its manager. Capturing a business through raiding is called a "raider seizure." Corporate blackmail (“greenmail”) is also referred to raiding activities.
    Nationalization - the transfer of state ownership of land, industrial enterprises, banks, transport or other property belonging to private individuals. Nationalization can be carried out through free expropriation - confiscation, as well as through full or partial redemption - requisition.
    Moreover, they offered it through a complete ransom-requisition and in case of neglected cases. For which neglected cases, it is written in the text of the article. When the priest-people are full-when the private trader-lays down on people big and fat and on the country to hell.
    In this case, they do not at all talk about the entire nationalization of everyone and everything and the complete destruction of private owners and owners.
    1. Russia we
      Russia we 16 February 2018 02: 02
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      Why, abroad, Germany, Sweden, the USA, Austria, everything is well controlled by the state and nationalized, and private owners are doing everything well and taking care of the people and the country. And for us, for some reason, the people always remain in the ass and the country.
  25. Russia we
    Russia we 16 February 2018 01: 46
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    Quote: shuravi
    Quote: Russia we

    stupid-huckster with foreign accounts. He wanted to spit on Russia, the Russian Orthodox Christian, on the Russian Orthodox Christians, on the people of Russia the Russian Orthodox Christian. For Putin, you must vote or for Zhirinovsky. I will vote for Putin!


    You’re the main thing, do not break your forehead from excessive zeal.

    The main thing is do not break your forehead out of extra zeal.
  26. Russia we
    Russia we 16 February 2018 22: 13
    +1
    Quote: Vadim237
    The next one is a senile bill from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, unprecedented opportunities for raider seizures by the authorities of what they will put their eyes on.

    People-state-privatizers seized wealth, laying a big and thick bolt on the people and the country and throwing down the people and the country from the high bell tower.
    Nationalization-this means belongs to the people-country-state. Income goes to all people and all country-state. And not just one person. Nationalization means that the owner, the owner is the people-country-state. The people-country-state receive wealth and money and profit and other benefits. And neither an official, nor a deputy, can dispose of it for personal gain. It will be abuse of authority and violation of the law. Not any other person. This is state property, property of the people-country-state. And all the wealth, profit and other benefits-are equally distributed between all people-the people of the country-state and throughout the country-state-so that everyone-all people lived well and the country-state was strong. strong, united, beautiful, smart throughout the territory so that there was no weak spot and holes, no weak spots anywhere in the country and the country and state flourished throughout the country -states, in all corners — not so much that somewhere is Paradise, but somewhere is hell.
    Vadim237-You are very stupid and fat lie.You just lied.
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  28. Russia we
    Russia we 16 February 2018 22: 39
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    Quote: BecmepH
    People-state-privatizers seized wealth, laying a big and thick bolt on the people and the country and throwing down the people and the country from the high bell tower.
    Nationalization-this means belongs to the people-country-state. Income goes to the whole people and the whole country-state. And not just one person. Nationalization means that the owner, the owner is the people-country-state. The people-country-state receive wealth and money and profit and other benefits. And neither the official, nor the deputy, can dispose of it for personal gain. It will be an abuse of power and violation of the law. Not any other person. This is state property, property of the people-country-state.
    And all the wealth, profit and other benefits — are evenly shared between all the people-people of the country-state and throughout the country-state-so that all-all people live well and the country-state is strong. Strong, single, beautiful, smart-throughout the territory — so that there wouldn’t be a weak spot and a hole-hole, a weak spot anywhere in the country-state, and the country-state-flourished throughout the country-state, in all corners — and not so much that somewhere Paradise and somewhere hell. No.

    People-state-privatizers seized wealth, laying a big and thick bolt on the people and the country and throwing down the people and the country from the high bell tower.
    Nationalization-this means belongs to the people-country-state. Income goes to the whole people and the whole country-state. And not just one person.Nationalization means that the owner, the owner is the people-country-state. The people-country-state receive wealth and money and profit and other benefits. And neither an official, nor a deputy, can dispose of it for personal gain. It will be abuse of power and violation of the law. Not any other person. This is state property, property of the people-country-state.And all the wealth, profit and other benefits are evenly shared between all the people-people of the country-state and throughout the country-state-so that all-all people live well and the country-state is strong, strong, united, beautiful, smart-throughout the territory — so that there wouldn’t be a weak spot and a hole-hole, a weak spot anywhere in the country-state, and the country-state-flourished throughout the country-state, in all corners — and not so much that somewhere Paradise and somewhere hell. No.
    Your comment is stupid.
  29. Russia we
    Russia we 18 February 2018 03: 49
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    Quote: BecmepH
    Quote: 210ox
    The law is needed.

    Of course you need.
    First privatized for a penny, now privatizers nationalize their privatized and low-fat state. In the West, such a "fat" can not even imagine. Communist Party in the strike!
    "You give the first lines in the Forbes list"

    People-state-privatizers seized wealth, laying a big and thick bolt on the people and the country and throwing down the people and the country from the high bell tower.
    Nationalization-this means belongs to the people-country-state. Income goes to the whole people and the whole country-state. And not just one person.Nationalization means that the owner, the owner is the people-country-state. The people-country-state receive wealth and money and profit and other benefits. And neither an official, nor a deputy, can dispose of it for personal gain. It will be abuse of power and violation of the law. Not any other person. This is state property, property of the people-country-state. And all the wealth, profit and other benefits-are equally distributed between all people-the people of the country-state and throughout the territory of the country-state-so that all-all people live well and the country-state-is strong, strong, united, beautiful, smart-throughout the territory- so that there wouldn’t be a weak spot and a hole-hole, a weak section anywhere in the country-state, and the country-state-flourished throughout the country-state, in all corners — not so much that somewhere is Paradise, but somewhere hell .No.
    BecmepH - you're lying!