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In the reflection of Israeli raids in Syria participated ZRPK "Pantsir-S"

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In the reflection of the recent Israeli raids on targets in Syria, not only the C-200 and Buk missiles, but also the Pantsir-S anti-aircraft missile-gun systems (ZRPK), reported News.




According to the newspaper, referring to the Syrian Defense Ministry, "February 10 air defense forces of the country had to repel a massive strike using air-launched cruise missiles, while the main targets of the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners were not airplanes, but air-to-ground missiles launched outside the country's airspace." ".

As a result of the first raid, eight of the 11 Israeli missiles found were destroyed, and the second attack out of seven rockets resulted in five. The only aircraft entering the airspace of the country was shot down by our anti-aircraft missile system,
told the publication a Syrian officer.

The interlocutor, however, refused to clarify how exactly the air defense system struck the F-16I Sufa fighter that had fallen on Israeli territory, but noted that during the raid "all Syrian calculations acted independently."

According to him, this could not have been achieved "without the assistance provided earlier by the Russian specialists who restored the technical readiness of the C-125, C-200 and Buk complexes, as well as retrained the Syrian military."

The February 10 incident was not the first in the last few days. This was reported to Izvestia by a source in the Syrian General Staff. The information was confirmed by the interlocutor in the Russian military department.

On February 7, the Israeli Air Force aircraft, violating the Syrian state border, launched eight air-to-surface missiles at the building of the National Science Center in the city of Salamia in the province of Hama. Then the Pantsir-S, C-200 and Buk complexes destroyed six missiles. The remaining two fell in the area of ​​the National Science Center, without causing significant damage,
told a military source.

As representatives of the Israeli Defense Ministry said earlier, “the situation worsened after around four o'clock in the morning on Saturday (February 10) an Iranian drone was found flying in from Jordan.” The reconnaissance UAV was intercepted by an Apache helicopter. The Israeli air force launched an air raid to destroy the drone control station. She was in the depth of the territory of the SAR near the city of Palmyra.

Israel used cruise missiles to strike. These are very difficult targets flying at low altitudes. To intercept them, not only prepared calculations are required, but also centralization, as well as a high level of management. From 26 targets, 19 was intercepted. It turns out that the Syrian defense demonstrated effectiveness close to 0,8. And this is a very high figure
Lieutenant-General Alexander Gorkov, former commander of the Russian anti-aircraft missile forces, told the newspaper.

In total, the Syrian air defense forces are armed with 8 C-200 air defense missile systems, which were supplied from the USSR, and around the Buk 20 complexes of various modifications. The last large batch of eight “Bukov” versions of the M2E was transferred to Damascus in 2011. In addition, in the 2013-2015 years, Russia supplied Damascus more than three dozen Pantsir ZRPK, including the last modification “C”.
Photos used:
RIA Novosti / Evgeny Biyatov
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 14 February 2018 11: 16
    +34
    I believe in this more, then the number of missiles more than three has been used up.
    1. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 14 February 2018 11: 19
      +43
      More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 14 February 2018 11: 31
        +31
        As Y. Kedmi said, earlier Israel regularly attacked Iranian columns with weapons for Hezbollah from the air. And now I’ve thought hard.
        1. brigadier
          brigadier 14 February 2018 12: 44
          +7
          Already conducted a preliminary investigation about the causes of the loss - yesterday it was in the news. So the pilot did not respond to the signal that his plane was captured as a target. There is a standard scheme of what to do in such situations: it will drop sharply. He slapped a moment - that's why the plane caught the fragments and wounded him.
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 14 February 2018 12: 59
            +18
            Steel pilot eggs, just did not react. And how he spoiled it when a signal flashes there and probably sound, because this is a danger to the aircraft and the pilot.
            1. Grits
              Grits 14 February 2018 18: 37
              +6
              And how did I spoil it when the signal flashes there and probably the soundtrack.
              As in a joke, either the emergency light broke, or the pilot was deaf.
            2. 108- guards pdp
              108- guards pdp 15 February 2018 09: 33
              +3
              "Steel Jewish Eggs!"
          2. Geisenberg
            Geisenberg 14 February 2018 13: 14
            +22
            Quote: brigadir
            Already conducted a preliminary investigation about the causes of the loss - yesterday it was in the news. So the pilot did not respond to the signal that his plane was captured as a target. There is a standard scheme of what to do in such situations: it will drop sharply. He slapped a moment - that's why the plane caught the fragments and wounded him.


            And the moment when he violated the border, he apparently also spoiled ... Actually and correctly he was hooked. In general, for such a prize immediately give Darwin.
            1. brigadier
              brigadier 14 February 2018 13: 57
              +15
              This is war. There is an order.
              Pilots know what they’re doing.
              What does the Darwin Award have to do with it? Do you want to hit with intelligence?
              1. Geisenberg
                Geisenberg 14 February 2018 15: 04
                +10
                Quote: brigadir
                This is war. There is an order.
                Pilots know what they’re doing.
                What does the Darwin Award have to do with it? Do you want to hit with intelligence?


                With that given to idiots who killed themselves.
                1. Fighter
                  Fighter 14 February 2018 15: 57
                  +4
                  If in Syria, our pilots refused to complete the task every time they had a STR, then they would not have flown beyond the first turn.
                  1. Kent0001
                    Kent0001 15 February 2018 00: 07
                    0
                    Our just have nothing to squeak .. not worth it. Or stands but not there. Everything as usual.
                2. ZVO
                  ZVO 14 February 2018 20: 20
                  +6
                  Quote: Geisenberg
                  Quote: brigadir
                  This is war. There is an order.
                  Pilots know what they’re doing.
                  What does the Darwin Award have to do with it? Do you want to hit with intelligence?


                  With that given to idiots who killed themselves.


                  When you write this, remember about ours in a strange sky ...
                  Any stick has two ends.
                  Scolding someone for something - think. but do not your words turn against you ...

                  Or will you be like Ukrainians: And then what for us? "..
                  Ugh ..
              2. Mih1974
                Mih1974 14 February 2018 21: 35
                +4
                Do not remind anyone whose land is currently occupying? am And what border did he cross, the real Syrian or current front line? negative Also, at the expense of “war”, when your “enemy” has a hut on, then taking advantage of the moment and “pouring kerosene” is meanness and vileness. am
                Although what to expect from you - you won’t even treat for free in their hospitals terrorists who cut children’s heads, and your top officials visit them officially. am
          3. demo
            demo 14 February 2018 21: 38
            +1
            Explain.
            How will this decrease?
            With a decrease, is there a risk of earning either a Stinger or an Igloo?
            I do not know which is better, but reducing is an additional danger.
          4. Kent0001
            Kent0001 15 February 2018 00: 05
            +3
            Seen so grown together. I don’t believe that the pilot - a Jew slap something, the level of training is much higher to "hat". Most likely he simply did not expect such an answer from the “defeated Syrians”.
      2. Professor
        Professor 14 February 2018 11: 33
        +18
        Quote: Spartanez300
        More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

        What are you talking about? After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple more such raids in Syria will not be air defense again as in Bekaa in 1982. And what targets shot down the Shell, false or KR, it is necessary to check well.

        PS
        From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 14 February 2018 11: 36
          +57
          Quote: Professor
          It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense.

          There are updated data. Syrian air defense destroyed by 123% smile
          Quote: Professor
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."

          Another death of the Israeli pilot, and the next night 1000 politicians and officials in Israel will lose power. Inside, you would achieve a stable environment before climbing on the rampage.
          1. User
            User 14 February 2018 12: 23
            +8
            If we are talking about interest, then in fairness it should be noted that 19 / 26 = 0,73 and far to 0,8 far. In addition, in my opinion, the number of missiles launched for interception should be taken into account, i.e. if SAR air defense used 26 missiles, then the coefficient is 0,73, if 52, then 0,365. It doesn’t change anything, I just don’t like numbers from the ceiling.
            1. Lock36
              Lock36 14 February 2018 13: 26
              +8
              They do not measure the effectiveness of anti-aircraft defense by the "target / missile" ratio. We were taught that for one target there are two missiles for a probability of defeat of 1 (I do not remember hundredths)
            2. Kent0001
              Kent0001 15 February 2018 00: 10
              +1
              All the same, better than the Saudis. Patriots for old Skuds work. There are 5 k1, i.e., 0,2, and the Patriot, in comparison with the S-200, consider the latest system. The main thing here is not numbers, but the principle. They simply answered the Jews for their impudence .... the first time in a long period of time.
          2. Professor
            Professor 15 February 2018 07: 59
            +2
            Quote: Thrall
            There are updated data. Syrian air defense destroyed by 123%

            There are updated data: 45%.
            http://www.newsru.co.il/israel/14feb2018/liberman
            _110.html
        2. jetfors_84
          jetfors_84 14 February 2018 11: 38
          +7
          Immediately visible storyteller
        3. loki565
          loki565 14 February 2018 11: 49
          +20
          This is from impunity, in response, nothing arrives, nor destroys airfields, air defense systems, weapons depots. Israel played with its whipping boys)))
        4. Gray brother
          Gray brother 14 February 2018 11: 53
          +45
          Quote: Professor
          And what targets shot down the Armor, false or KR,

          This is what such a false target can be launched so that it reaches the zone of destruction of the "Shell"?
          Quote: Professor
          It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense.

          Your beloved Germans once claimed that they would hold a parade on Red Square, but, as a result, passed only along the Garden Ring)))

          Whether the real goals were struck by Israeli aviation or whether they were false - this should be well checked)))
          1. flicker
            flicker 14 February 2018 12: 30
            +8
            This is what such a false target can be launched so that it reaches the zone of destruction of the "Shell"?
            smile So soon they will start saying that "false planes attacked with false RCs" smile
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 14 February 2018 13: 15
              +6
              Quote: flicker
              So soon they will start saying that "false planes attacked with false RCs"

              So, yeah:
              1. lukewarm
                lukewarm 22 February 2018 12: 06
                0
                Eka sagged. Do they have a military hopak too?
            2. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 18: 24
              +4
              Quote: flicker
              So soon they will start saying that "false planes attacked with false RCs"

              in addition ... with false pilots !!! wassat wassat lol lol
        5. amirbek
          amirbek 14 February 2018 11: 55
          +11
          Quote: Professor
          "1000 and one night."

          some aggressively war bought into a provocation as a result ditched 4 f16
        6. Dart2027
          Dart2027 14 February 2018 12: 03
          +14
          Quote: Professor
          It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense.

          Here are just no facts yet to be seen.
        7. yehat
          yehat 14 February 2018 12: 07
          +35
          the shells reported that they had reduced the number of missiles fired by airplanes.
          and as for the reports on 30, 50, 90% of the destroyed air defense, you clearly carry the blizzard,
          because air defense is too vague a concept.
          But I'm more interested in another question - why is Israel actually fighting with a country that did not attack it?
          Bombed what they wanted and where they wanted

          Israel and the United States will be destroyed sooner or later for such behavior. History never forgives such a thing.
          1. flicker
            flicker 14 February 2018 12: 37
            +7
            But I'm more interested in another question - why is Israel actually fighting with a country that did not attack it?
            Mattresses seem to demand that Israel begin a full-scale war with Syria. To start such a war is tantamount to suicide, not to start - the same thing, hence, apparently half measures: they bombed and reported ... both ours and yours.
            1. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 18: 26
              +3
              Quote: flicker
              Mattresses seem to demand that Israel begin a full-scale war with Syria.

              and to consolidate threaten Netanyahu criminal case !! wink wassat wassat good good laughing
              1. flicker
                flicker 14 February 2018 18: 39
                +3
                and to consolidate threaten Netanyahu criminal case
                Poroshenko is also required to take active military action in the Donbass, if Saakashvili is released wrongly, Poroshenko agrees to the Georgian in a cell and so on. so much fun yes
            2. GAF
              GAF 14 February 2018 19: 03
              +2
              Quote: flicker
              Mattresses seem to demand that Israel begin a full-scale war with Syria.

              Since when did the tail begin to control the dog?
              1. flicker
                flicker 14 February 2018 19: 32
                +1
                Since when did the tail begin to control the dog?
                Yes, with no.
                Henry Kissinger and 16 US intelligence agencies said: "There will be no Israel by 2022"
                How should he disappear, say I'm tired, am I leaving, or are they embroiled in a losing war? here you can read more: https://www.politforums.net/world/1515088280.html
          2. ver_
            ver_ 14 February 2018 15: 13
            +4
            ... far from fact- Jews, as before, are scattered all over the world - the method has been tested ...
        8. just exp
          just exp 14 February 2018 12: 14
          +4
          and what kind of false qs do Israel have?
          1. Professor
            Professor 14 February 2018 12: 29
            +7
            Quote: just EXPL
            and what kind of false qs do Israel have?

            1. Simple
              Simple 14 February 2018 13: 28
              +1
              Greetings Oleg.

              The question is not the topic: The Israeli Famida has taken up your prime minister.

              How do your media interpret this event?
              In short.
              1. Professor
                Professor 14 February 2018 15: 40
                +8
                Quote: Simple
                Greetings Oleg.

                The question is not the topic: The Israeli Famida has taken up your prime minister.

                How do your media interpret this event?
                In short.

                In short: "Bibi to prison."
                1. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 15 February 2018 00: 17
                  0
                  Really can close? And how did he allow corruption in power? Not kidding, really interesting. And if this is not an order, then before the femida in Israel everyone is equal. Bravo. But in Russia, Jews decide something with femida wink
            2. just exp
              just exp 14 February 2018 18: 41
              +4
              target rockets or what?
              and what, do you have aircraft with such missiles flying to bomb Syria?
              why did you fly without them before?
              or the commander’s morning mood was in a good mood and he gave out such a thing “they’ve never flown here, but today let’s try to fly with missiles at targets instead of combat ones”.
              By the way, didn’t go to battle with blank cartridges yet?
        9. neri73-r
          neri73-r 14 February 2018 12: 18
          +15
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Spartanez300
          More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

          What are you talking about? After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple more such raids in Syria will not be air defense again as in Bekaa in 1982. And what targets shot down the Shell, false or KR, it is necessary to check well.

          PS
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."

          Oh, and a storyteller, you professor .......! Massive raid, everything is destroyed ...... wassat Facts and videos from the photo to the studio, otherwise it’s all the talk of “trustworthy” Israeli generals, official and non-official (like you) people !!! hi
        10. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 14 February 2018 13: 16
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Spartanez300
          More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

          What are you talking about? After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple more such raids in Syria will not be air defense again as in Bekaa in 1982. And what targets shot down the Shell, false or KR, it is necessary to check well.

          PS
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."


          From your words, Israel is already bombing Moscow. You lie, of course, don’t lie.
          1. Michael_59
            Michael_59 14 February 2018 21: 43
            +1
            Quote: Geisenberg
            Israel is already bombing Moscow


            What for? There all the same.
        11. ASG7
          ASG7 14 February 2018 14: 31
          +6
          Speaking of fairy tales, the winner will never run to another, asking for help in de-escalating the conflict. And about false missiles - it’s not easier to achieve the goal by increasing their number, because Russian air defense systems are so “Dumb” that they will take false misses and destroy military ones.
        12. faiver
          faiver 14 February 2018 15: 39
          +3
          excuse me, but the level of trust in information from the Syrians and from you is about the same hi
        13. Kondratko
          Kondratko 14 February 2018 17: 40
          +4
          I recalled your words on a similar occasion, I will slightly rephrase: - "show photos of destroyed objects, then we will believe."
          Will there be a photo report? )
        14. Separ
          Separ 14 February 2018 18: 02
          +3
          "... A couple more of these raids and in Syria there will again be no air defense ..." - pass on to yours - we will put three times more and three times better bully
        15. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 18: 22
          0
          Quote: Professor
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."

          Apparently you are closer Jewish tales about
          Quote: Professor
          After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense.

          what laughing laughing laughing
        16. Grits
          Grits 14 February 2018 18: 40
          +2
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."
          Jewish fairy tales about the whole destroyed air defense are no worse than the Arab ones. Announce the entire list, please.
        17. Stiletto_711
          Stiletto_711 14 February 2018 22: 24
          0
          Quote: Professor
          from 30% to 50% of their air defense

          Yes, no, they say from 7% to 98%, or up to 115% yes
          Quote: Professor
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."

          You seem to have helped Scheherazade, composed from 30% to 50% of fairy tales for it laughing
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        19. slaventi
          slaventi 15 February 2018 04: 53
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple more such raids in Syria will not be air defense again as in Bekaa in 1982.


          And where is the evidence? Do you not have it? It’s not the first time you destroy Syrian air defense, Only after that it reborn for some reason and shoots your missiles and planes .. But your planes didn’t shoot down 35 years .. One plane for Israel is not enough, but for Arabs are very many, Arabs are inspired. The USSR has long been gone, but Israeli planes can be shot down, just like their missiles.
        20. CAT BAIYUN
          CAT BAIYUN 15 February 2018 14: 28
          +1
          From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."

          aha .. I see ... And for want of your Jewish tales, write these
          After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple of such raids in Syria will again not be air defense as in Bekaa in 1982. And what targets shot down the Shell, false or KR, it is necessary to check well.
        21. faradien
          faradien 17 February 2018 01: 07
          0
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Spartanez300
          More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

          . It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple of such raids in Syria will again not be air defense as in Bekaa in 1982. And what targets shot down the Shell, false or KR, it is necessary to check well.
          .

          I remember when Russia wanted the S-300 to deliver Syria, so Israel tearfully asked not to do this. repeat Type: "We have more than one plane, even a civilian will not take off, if that." Ours went to a meeting, put other systems of shorter range for the same amount. And if you destroy all Syrian air defense, then we will not supply them with less than S-300. So think lol Your problems are understandable, but you have to moderate your arrogance winked
      3. Safevi
        Safevi 14 February 2018 11: 34
        +9
        And how did they “repel” the Israeli air raid? 1 plane was shot down, and in response 3 air defense batteries and 9 other targets were destroyed, including factories and weapons depots.
        1. Lord of the Sith
          Lord of the Sith 14 February 2018 11: 38
          +40
          Where is this answer? Video and photo, please. With any blows, immediately a photo from the UAV or satellites is provided and video from local sympathizers, for example, explosions or black smoke rises. And if we talk about the many attacked objects, then there should be at least a few such videos.
          1. Thrall
            Thrall 14 February 2018 11: 42
            +21
            There are only photos from the Syrian side, confirming that nothing was hurt.
          2. q75agent
            q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 54
            +20
            I agree on February 14 and our Israeli "friends" still can not boast of anything lol they used to react quickly, and therefore nothing to brag about bully
          3. Aaron Zawi
            Aaron Zawi 14 February 2018 12: 04
            +8
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            Where is this answer? Video and photo, please. With any blows, immediately a photo from the UAV or satellites is provided and video from local sympathizers, for example, explosions or black smoke rises. And if we talk about the many attacked objects, then there should be at least a few such videos.

            Is Israel supposed to represent them? We presented photos of a downed plane and debris from Syrian air defense missiles. The fragments of these missiles, which the Syrians fired in all directions, were presented by Jordanians and Lebanese. And what did the Syrians show? Well, where did our missiles go, they don’t want to show. Let them show at least fragments of the shot down or funnels from misses. When one Tomahawk missed the Shairat, then the Syrians immediately posted his remains on public display.

            And here declaring such a success of their air defense, they modestly can not find any Israeli KR.
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 14 February 2018 12: 09
              +18
              Quote: Aron Zaavi
              Is Israel supposed to represent them?

              Was there a boy then?
              If there is no evidence of the effectiveness of the Israeli attacks. Maybe the F-16 pilots fired with fear at the olive trees and power poles? smile
              1. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 14 February 2018 12: 15
                +7
                Quote: Thrall
                Quote: Aron Zaavi
                Is Israel supposed to represent them?

                Was there a boy then? If there is no evidence of the effectiveness of the Israeli attacks. Maybe the F-16 pilots fired with fear at the olive trees and power poles? smile

                Yeah. May be. Have you read about the destruction of the Syrian nuclear reactor? It was in 2007 year. And the Syrian air defense system was then somewhat more combat-ready. I honestly do not understand the joy of a downed plane. And our tanks are on fire and soldiers are dying. This is generally normal for a warring army. We can still take a plane and even five so what? The question is not this, but the question of what price the opponent pays for this success.
                1. Thrall
                  Thrall 14 February 2018 12: 21
                  +7
                  Quote: Aron Zaavi
                  The question is not this, but the question of how much the opponent pays for this success.

                  Defending the homeland at all costs. I think the Syrians, like the Russians, have this in the order of things. Except from others.
                  1. ZVO
                    ZVO 14 February 2018 20: 33
                    +4
                    Quote: Thrall
                    Quote: Aron Zaavi
                    The question is not this, but the question of how much the opponent pays for this success.

                    Defending the homeland at all costs. I think the Syrians, like the Russians, have this in the order of things. Except from others.


                    Have you ever read about the Arab-Israeli wars?

                    Aren't you dumb to set Arabs on par with Russians?
                    The Syrians themselves were ... tearing apart their country, Every third man escaped simply from the country ..
                    I'm like a person who visited Tunisia. in Syria, in Egypt, not at all on the beaches in 2006-2008 - I know these people very well.
                    Israelis at least do not run away from the army ...
                    And they do not pay off service for a bold 40 thousand rubles.
                2. brr1
                  brr1 14 February 2018 13: 12
                  +18
                  In fact, everyone here doesn’t care about your plane, it annoys everyone that you hit the country for which Russia is fighting. It looks like a provocation and, accordingly, do not care what the Persians and other hezboloids and xyroids do against you.
                  1. Nikolai Grek
                    Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 18: 30
                    +1
                    Quote: brr1
                    In fact, everyone here doesn’t care about your plane, it annoys everyone that you hit the country for which Russia is fighting.

                    rather, it is more annoying that they hit on the side that crumbles the terrorists !!! request request
                  2. Grits
                    Grits 14 February 2018 18: 48
                    +2
                    It looks like a provocation and, accordingly, do not care what the Persians and other hezboloids and xyroids do against you.
                    I will say even more - the vast majority of Russians sincerely sympathize with the Persians, Hezbollah and the IRGC. And why? Yes, because they, unlike others, do not lick American boots.
                    1. Shahno
                      Shahno 14 February 2018 18: 53
                      +6
                      You know what is unfortunate. The truth is not important to you. It is important to you whose boots lick ...
                    2. ZVO
                      ZVO 14 February 2018 20: 35
                      +2
                      Quote: Gritsa
                      [
                      I will say even more - the vast majority of Russians sincerely sympathize with the Persians, Hezbollah and the IRGC. And why? Yes, because they, unlike others, do not lick American boots.


                      Russians do not sympathize with Arabs.
                      Do not cheat.
                      The Russians simply do not know the Arabs - they will know - they will hate, worse than the Nazis.
                      Now slowly on the news from Europe - they find out ...
            2. neri73-r
              neri73-r 14 February 2018 12: 24
              +13
              Let them show at least fragments of the shot down or funnels from misses. When one Tomahawk missed the Shairat, then the Syrians immediately left his remains on public display.

              That's all the Israeli evidence - since the Syrians did not put anything out and the media, it means Israel won all !!! That is, from the opposite .... oh, clowns and bots with training manuals sofas! You are getting smaller. Well, in principle, like the whole so-called "Western world."
            3. Lord of the Sith
              Lord of the Sith 14 February 2018 12: 53
              +10
              Shalom, Aron!
              I have no complaints against you and specifically to the people of Israel and, in general, to Jews. I have a complaint against your government, which, in justification of the loss, stated that it responded with multiple blows in order to calm the population.
              1. Kasym
                Kasym 14 February 2018 13: 35
                +7
                Good day to you, Lord of the Sith! Bibi is accused of corruption (according to media reports) - maybe this is the reason for his actions - to divert public attention from himself and switch her to external problems. hi
                1. Lord of the Sith
                  Lord of the Sith 14 February 2018 15: 56
                  +3
                  Good day, Kasym and I are about the same.
                2. flicker
                  flicker 14 February 2018 16: 25
                  +3
                  Bibi accused of corruption (according to media reports)
                  It seems that they are not blaming him because he is a corrupt official, but rather because he does not pursue the policy that is demanded and expected of him, those who are above him.
            4. q75agent
              q75agent 14 February 2018 12: 55
              +6
              when there is nothing to argue Israeli "friends" begin to cast a shadow on the wattle fence laughing in past unpunished attacks on public display of the VO site participants, satellite images of the affected objects were quickly laid out, and you wrote a lot of text and posted an ancient image wink Weak arguments lol
            5. slaventi
              slaventi 15 February 2018 05: 16
              +1
              You presented the wreckage because it was impossible to hide it, since the facts had already been posted on the network. And so everything was fine with you, no one was knocked down.
          4. Professor
            Professor 14 February 2018 12: 23
            +6
            Quote: Lord of the Sith
            Where is this answer? Video and photo, please. With any blows, immediately a photo from the UAV or satellites is provided and video from local sympathizers, for example, explosions or black smoke rises. And if we talk about the many attacked objects, then there should be at least a few such videos.

            Of all the attacks attributed to Israel, as well as recognized by Israel, we did not publish a single photo. Probably never hit in all these years. wink

            Quote: Thrall
            Another death of the Israeli pilot, and the next night 1000 politicians and officials in Israel will lose power. Inside, you would achieve a stable environment before climbing on the rampage.

            Another death? You confused our pilot with yours however.

            Quote: Thrall
            There are only photos from the Syrian side, confirming that nothing was hurt.

            These?
            1. BSUrFO
              BSUrFO 14 February 2018 18: 39
              +1
              You are funny!!!...
              ... Photoshopped himself or who helped?! ... as I understand, I’ll say - base hack - especially for your brother !!!
          5. trump
            trump 14 February 2018 15: 32
            +3
            It’s true that it’s noticed, since Jews would have long ago buried Internet photos, videos and other proofs and would have reveled in an infinitely great victory, and there would be no end to boasting and their eastern verbiage
        2. amirbek
          amirbek 14 February 2018 11: 51
          +23
          Quote: sefevi
          1 plane was shot down, and 3 air defense batteries destroyed in response

          there were a lot of false goals ... specify which batteries ... wassat
          1. Petrix
            Petrix 14 February 2018 12: 33
            +10
            There was a blow by false missiles on false air defense. This can be read in the yellow press on the basis of fake data from social networks.
          2. Maz
            Maz 14 February 2018 14: 20
            +6
            And how did they destroy the inflatable Onyxes? How yelled? We were proud. But it turns out that the Israelis fired rockets at large condoms with expensive missiles. Why not train? Train.
          3. Separ
            Separ 14 February 2018 18: 18
            +4
            Then, probably, the Israelis received exactly such satisfaction as from an inflatable "woman" good
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon 14 February 2018 12: 48
          +5
          Quote: sefevi
          And how did they “repel” the Israeli air raid? 1 plane was shot down, and in response 3 air defense batteries and 9 other targets were destroyed, including factories and weapons depots.

          Yeah, the Israelis are awesome, they rolled out all the Syrian air defense, and a bunch of all kinds of objects and rushed to negotiate with Russia, like, let's all forget, we don’t need to shoot at us, we will live peacefully. And the plane was shot down, which stuck in the airspace of Syria. The rest did not enter there, so the Syrians hit the rockets.
        4. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 14 February 2018 18: 28
          +1
          Quote: sefevi
          And how did they “repel” the Israeli air raid? 1 plane was shot down, and in response 3 air defense batteries and 9 other targets were destroyed, including factories and weapons depots.

          and nuclear stocks with spaceships that plow the vast expanses of the universe !!! laughing laughing laughing
        5. Kent0001
          Kent0001 15 February 2018 00: 20
          +1
          How is this confirmed except blah blah blah. If the Americans hit the airfield, then there were photos and video materials (though this quarter of the missiles flew for some reason). And here? Or did Azerbaijani intelligence inform you?))))
      4. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 14 February 2018 12: 54
        +1
        You can sell for money, but simply donate or for a loan taken from us - figs.
      5. DanG73
        DanG73 14 February 2018 15: 15
        +4
        Quote: Spartanez300
        More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative


        You and your “urya” forgot the course of events - after the downed plane, an attack was made on 8 planes at 12 air defense facilities — all the planes successfully returned after completing the mission. I wonder where were the air defense?
        1. Kondratko
          Kondratko 14 February 2018 17: 50
          +1
          ) Counterquestion. If the air defense did not shoot back, then maybe there wasn’t that boy and eight planes flew only in the media and on the Internet?
      6. sgazeev
        sgazeev 14 February 2018 18: 26
        0
        Quote: Spartanez300
        More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

        Then the prime minister was seized for eggs accusing of corruption.
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    3. Maz
      Maz 14 February 2018 11: 32
      +30
      So we looked. “Be proud” of the Israelis - you could not penetrate Syrian air defense. And how boasted all in a crowd! It turns out that you were simply given a face and did not want to show the whole world. We regretted your "combat experience", and you climbed and climbed again. We thought this was a weakness. We got used to fight with naked Aborigines. Fanned out on American grubs. Well, and got it. Yes, men have regretted you. And how our Israeli colleagues were crucifying here! How amused by their militancy! But it turned out to be just a balloon inflated with air. Zilch. God, well, the people. Ugh. And from all this it follows that the colleagues from Israel all this time greatly exaggerated the achievements in the military. And about the morality and ethics of warfare, even the Americans surpassed.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 February 2018 12: 09
        +3
        Who tells what fairy tales it will be visible, not to hide it?
        To believe that the "pirates" have no more interest in Syria, no way. So they must fly, shoot, rockets to start again and again! If not, then they are clearly afraid, then the nonsense and the impact efficiency are lower than declared!
        If they continue without serious consequences, then the Syrian air defense was done well .... there are no other options.
        Definition - the most effective fight against enemy aircraft, at smashing airfields, locations ... the truth proved by time!
        Time will tell!
        1. assa67
          assa67 14 February 2018 12: 17
          +6
          Victor hi ... the Syrians will not go on strike on Israeli territory ... unfortunately, and they don’t have the opportunity
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 14 February 2018 12: 41
            0
            Andrey, if everyone acted logically!
            Assad needs to be rebuilt, for a long time and the barmalei will interfere with this, the Yankees will also crap. Iran will try first of all for its interests and how it will be, but FIG knows. Israel will crap by definition, because the question is - how much will it want or how much can ??? Limitations can be created or negotiated!
            And so the east is a delicate matter, one might say, so without a bottle you won’t understand! A serious tangle is outlined, who will unravel?
      2. yehat
        yehat 14 February 2018 12: 10
        +2
        I do not share your optimism. Israel successfully or not, but with impunity bombing.
        reducing the effectiveness of such strikes is wonderful, but the problem remains.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 14 February 2018 12: 52
          +2
          But impunity is a problem that can be solved in principle! I have doubts, not on the technical side of the issue, but on the political and organizational background ... who will pay, that's the same question!
          Better to agree. For Israel, there are restrictions, such important as the unacceptable loss of equipment and drugs. Should he weaken and begin to tear from different angles, this is a fact.
          Assad identity too, create air defense and keep it all the time in the "hot" mode !!! It’s expensive, but the country is badly destroyed and whether citizens are ready to endure all the continuing adversities in order to defeat the old enemy ... it was just possible to live, relatively calmly.
          On the other hand. Israel didn’t actively cooperate with the bartenders .... so there is a choice!
          In short we will see. Shaw will be there and how, guessing is impossible.
  2. Spike Javelin Touvich
    Spike Javelin Touvich 14 February 2018 11: 16
    +3
    Will begin now
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 February 2018 11: 19
      +14
      And what should begin .. Guests will come? Well, we will meet. Bread with salt.
      Quote: Spikes Javelin Touvich
      Will begin now
    2. Safevi
      Safevi 14 February 2018 11: 35
      +3
      Yes. We know how Jews are "loved" on the site. What is not good.
      1. Bypassed
        Bypassed 14 February 2018 11: 42
        +1
        And you read the book "Russia in Crooked Mirrors"
      2. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 14 February 2018 11: 44
        +17
        Quote: sefevi
        Yes. We know how Jews are "loved" on the site. What is not good.

        Yes, we have silence and grace here, read what is being done on the Censor. We have an equal and respectful attitude towards Jews. hi
        1. prorab_ak
          prorab_ak 14 February 2018 16: 05
          +2
          Quote: ul_vitalii
          Yes, we have silence and grace here, read what is being done on the Censor. We have an equal and respectful attitude towards Jews.

          Bueee laughing .... especially this evenness can be seen in the last one and a half thousand comments over the past 4 days wassat
          The farts of the "Orthodox Rusich" tear to fame .... like fireworks on Victory Day. Moreover, the same people who are usually seen in the top ten commenting on each news.
          Well, yes and x .... with him !!!! said the administration of the site rubbing their hands pretty, but what kind of attendance because of the guys with the promised bully
  3. 210ox
    210ox 14 February 2018 11: 17
    +4
    It would be interesting not the fact, but the result. And who was sitting there in the cockpit? Technique by technology, but most importantly, people.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 14 February 2018 11: 28
      +5
      Quote: 210ox
      Technique technique, but most importantly, people.

      That's it . Technique in the hands of a savage - a piece of iron.
      1. yehat
        yehat 14 February 2018 12: 11
        +2
        if it's not a monkey and a pomegranate)))
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 14 February 2018 12: 14
          +3
          In fairness: hardly a monkey can be called a savage. lol
          1. yehat
            yehat 14 February 2018 12: 32
            +4
            counter question - can a savage be called a monkey?
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 14 February 2018 12: 41
              +3
              It's easy, a lot of examples!
    2. assa67
      assa67 14 February 2018 11: 30
      +13
      Dima, good day hi ... the Syrians, they say, were sitting ... and our instructors and specialists controlled ... like in Vietnam in the beginning .... it's necessary, they restored the S-125's combat readiness! ... not from a good life, of course, but the complex is excellent, even in our time ... a colossal wick in a six-pointed hollow laughing
      1. 210ox
        210ox 14 February 2018 11: 47
        +5
        Andrei hi Of course, this is correct. I want to add only one thing. In Vietnam, our “wards” were taken in a circle in order to take on the fragments if covered. But what about the Syrians? Isn't it about the velvet first skuhe?
        Quote: assa67
        Dima, good day hi ... the Syrians, they say, were sitting ... and our instructors and specialists controlled ... like in Vietnam in the beginning .... it's necessary, they restored the S-125's combat readiness! ... not from a good life, of course, but the complex is excellent, even in our time ... a colossal wick in a six-pointed hollow laughing
        1. assa67
          assa67 14 February 2018 12: 00
          +6
          yeah, a dilemma ... the mentality of the Arabs is different, as one of them explained to me: Russia does not help, Allah gives ... so they won’t take
        2. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 14 February 2018 12: 47
          +5
          Colleagues, welcome. For greetings in the comments read the comments Stroporeza in yesterday's article by Feuilleton on VO. I died for half an hour.
        3. Kondratko
          Kondratko 15 February 2018 11: 11
          0
          .In Vietnam our instructors "wards" took in a circlein order to take on the fragments if covered.

          I do not want to offend, but there wasn’t such (this is an Internet bike). Very respectful of our specialists - yes, sometimes in the evening after the landing of American aircraft, the Vietnamese came to the bungalow in order to mark a successful day. And from the fragments of the shriki dropped from the B-52, it was not the Vietnamese who were protecting, but the vertically drilled pits with lid-shields from wooden boards in several layers, they hid in the pits during air raids, although the pindocs rarely reached the radar and missile positions, although it happened in mostly fell in the vicinity, so they did not use it often.
          [According to a friend, a participant in those events]
          hi
          1. faradien
            faradien 17 February 2018 01: 43
            +1
            Quote: KondratKo
            .In Vietnam our instructors "wards" took in a circlein order to take on the fragments if covered.

            I don’t want to offend, but there wasn’t such (this is an Internet bike).
            hi

            I watched on TV how one of our specialists, who served in Vietnam, told how during the raid, ONE of him was covered by one Vietnamese and took over the splinter, he was wounded. His order was to defend the Soviet at any cost. And you write such nonsense
  4. q75agent
    q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 19
    +25
    that one failed was not even discussed, but another campaign cannot be restored wink
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 February 2018 11: 22
      +3
      Was he “drunk”? Something he was so spread out .. Such good deducted from us at the airfields ... We have, not in Israel.
      Quote: q75agent
      that one failed was not even discussed, but another campaign cannot be restored wink
      1. q75agent
        q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 25
        +14
        we have no F-16 laughing
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 14 February 2018 11: 33
          +8
          Photo of 2005 ...
          1. q75agent
            q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 45
            +2
            than prove stop
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 14 February 2018 11: 54
              +9
              Quote: q75agent
              than prove stop

              http://www.iaf.org.il/4384-38770-en/IAF.aspx
              1. q75agent
                q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 55
                +6
                frets taken wink
        2. 210ox
          210ox 14 February 2018 11: 50
          +2
          I agree. But you realized that we also have complete dumps of decommissioned equipment. If there were debris, there would be others.
          Quote: q75agent
          we have no F-16 laughing
    2. assa67
      assa67 14 February 2018 11: 35
      +5
      also a few kotsanimi .. until the holes are patched, they will calculate the money for the repair ...
    3. Professor
      Professor 14 February 2018 11: 40
      +8
      Quote: q75agent
      that one failed was not even discussed, but another campaign cannot be restored

      Restored and long in service.
      http://www.iaf.org.il/4384-38770-en/IAF.aspx
      1. amirbek
        amirbek 14 February 2018 12: 28
        +2
        shorter arrogance not prokanal have to share water fraternally
  5. Dormidont
    Dormidont 14 February 2018 11: 21
    +3
    Work, brothers!
    1. Petrix
      Petrix 14 February 2018 12: 36
      +4
      Quote: Dormidont
      Work, brothers!

      What about the sisters?
  6. _Jack_
    _Jack_ 14 February 2018 11: 22
    +8
    So what about the 25 missiles the Israeli general spoke of, it turns out they were not fired against planes, but against air-to-ground missiles, and the only attacked plane was shot down. I would like to hear the opinion of the second side of the conflict.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 14 February 2018 11: 38
      +15
      I would like to hear the opinion of the second side of the conflict.
      When it smells "hot" and the sun touches their aircraft, the second side (on the site) either remains silent, or gets by with one word - "fake". When today they wrote about the discovery of Israeli rockets at the militants, they flocked in a flock and as soon as they did not scoff at the information.
      1. Strips
        Strips 14 February 2018 13: 10
        +3
        Quote: rotmistr60
        When today they wrote about the discovery of Israeli rockets at the militants, they flocked in a flock and as soon as they did not scoff at the information.


        Well, after all, the truth is the news of the discovery of missiles without a single proof and fact.

        Quote: rotmistr60
        When it smells "hot" and the sun touches their aircraft, the second side (on the site) either remains silent, or gets by with one word - "fake".


        No one is silent.
        And given the repeated statements by the Syrians without any evidence, including what you mentioned, the reaction is not surprising.
  7. Peter Tsar
    Peter Tsar 14 February 2018 11: 23
    +4
    It is necessary to strengthen its position and increase political influence on the Sinai Peninsula. Where we do not work, the enemy works!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 14 February 2018 11: 52
      0
      I did not understand about the Sinai .. This seems to be more to Egypt, and not to this article.
      Quote: Peter Tsar
      It is necessary to strengthen its position and increase political influence on the Sinai Peninsula. Where we do not work, the enemy works!
      1. Peter Tsar
        Peter Tsar 14 February 2018 14: 39
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        I did not understand about the Sinai .. This seems to be more to Egypt, and not to this article.
        Quote: Peter Tsar
        It is necessary to strengthen its position and increase political influence on the Sinai Peninsula. Where we do not work, the enemy works!

        Syria is the gateway to the Sinai. We still need to reason Iraq, and then it is possible for the Saudis and Israelis to freely talk about "party politics."
  8. taiga2018
    taiga2018 14 February 2018 11: 23
    +5
    they still have at least the S-300 ...
  9. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 14 February 2018 11: 24
    +6
    In short, we are not involved in the downing winked Israelis suspect sad and the Syrians are silent repeat . But the media strive to throw firewood ....
    1. Tiksi-3
      Tiksi-3 14 February 2018 11: 48
      +2
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      But the media strive to throw firewood ....

      and without the media it’s blazing well ..... I think the Jews will soon strike one more time ..... until March for sure ....
    2. amirbek
      amirbek 14 February 2018 12: 35
      +5
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      In short, we are not involved in the downing

      no, of course, only "observe and fix" ... but if f35 starts hosting with new rackets -
      will also include a "record"
      1. KVU-NSVD
        KVU-NSVD 14 February 2018 12: 42
        +8
        they will not “shine” once again with penguins with lizards under our radars, otherwise myths about the super-super-ESR can collapse and leak into the masses in “records” laughing
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 14 February 2018 11: 25
    +10
    Both sides are happy with win-win: both the goals are destroyed and the air defense is stretched. drinks
    1. q75agent
      q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 28
      +12
      Well, they’ve already heard, they used the old S-75 positions, helped the Syrians, otherwise they didn’t reach their hands wink laughing And all working safe and sound tongue
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 14 February 2018 11: 33
        +6
        Why not help? Most importantly, the Syrian air defense forces did not die. good They are smart people - never
        sit next to radars or launchers.
      2. Krasnodar
        Krasnodar 14 February 2018 11: 41
        +1
        Quote: q75agent
        Well, they’ve already heard, they used the old S-75 positions, helped the Syrians, otherwise they didn’t reach their hands wink laughing And all working safe and sound tongue

        Dreams Dreams )))))
        1. q75agent
          q75agent 14 February 2018 11: 51
          +7
          how to know how to know wink
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 14 February 2018 11: 34
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Both sides are happy with win-win: both the goals are destroyed and the air defense is stretched. drinks

      Much more interesting and important, how to proceed on both sides?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 14 February 2018 11: 46
        +13
        For Israel, nothing has fundamentally changed.
        The objects of Iran and Hezbollah in Syria (and Lebanon) both bombed and will bomb.
        The objects of Russia in Syria have not been touched and will not be touched.
        Syrian air defense, BR, and aviation will continue to be “scared" (hollow point)
        as they become active against Israel.
        And the Israeli pilots, I think, were given a bite for relaxing in their airspace. After the sorties. You have to be ready for an anti-ballistic maneuver in ANY place in the air. SAMs fly far.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 14 February 2018 12: 03
          +12
          Quote: voyaka uh
          The objects of Iran and Hezbollah in Syria (and Lebanon) both bombed and will bomb.
          The objects of Russia in Syria have not been touched and will not be touched.

          Not so obvious.
          The precedent with the F-16 clearly shows that without a change in personnel now will not do. You do not need to be seven spans in your forehead to guess that the Syrian Express is already transporting new means for Syrian air defense and there is an accelerated training of Syrian service personnel. And I will not say anything about the Iranian factor for Syrian air defense.
          And I would advise you to strengthen the protection of Israeli pilots and their families in Israel itself.
          Patriotic Arab fanatics can begin to hunt them.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 14 February 2018 13: 29
            +6
            "that the Syrian Express is already carrying new means for Syrian air defense and is
            accelerated training of Syrian service personnel "////

            It is very good. We need to learn to suppress the latest anti-aircraft defense / missile defense, not
            outdated. The main thing is that people should not come close to radars and launchers:
            neither the Syrians nor the Russians — only remotely.
            Human sacrifices are not needed, and iron is not a pity.
            1. faradien
              faradien 17 February 2018 01: 57
              0
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "that the Syrian Express is already carrying new means for Syrian air defense and is
              accelerated training of Syrian service personnel "////

              It is very good. We need to learn to suppress the latest anti-aircraft defense / missile defense, not
              outdated ..

              And the newest air defense / missile defense also needs to learn how to suppress the state pepelats. Syria has given us a lot of valuable experience. I suppose, not only to F-16, but also to F-35 laughing
        2. yehat
          yehat 14 February 2018 12: 27
          +2
          by the way I wanted to ask if Israel is actively using EW aviation, like the United States in Iraq
          such as the American praler or growler (based on f-18)
          It seems to me that the success of the shell is precisely due to their absence.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 14 February 2018 13: 34
            +2
            Of course, and very massive. Therefore, I strongly suspect
            that the Carapace and the Bukee shot into the void or at the false EW targets of the missiles, and they were shot down.
            But above its territory at the height of the electronic warfare is not applicable.
            Therefore, pilots should not relax.
      2. bald
        bald 14 February 2018 12: 06
        +1
        And this is the main question. They will continue to fight - Russia is not the topic. Well, peace, Israel is easier to go for it than Syria (it would not mind, but no matter how it does not make another enemy).
    3. _Jack_
      _Jack_ 14 February 2018 12: 44
      0
      An Israeli general spoke about 25 missiles. This article states that the majority were fired not against airplanes, but against air-to-ground missiles, and the only attacked aircraft was shot down. Or do you have other data on this?
    4. Servisinzhener
      Servisinzhener 14 February 2018 13: 00
      +2
      And all reported on the crushing defeat of the adversary, flaunting numbers of downed air targets and destroyed air defense positions. It’s difficult to confirm or refute anyway. laughing
    5. Maz
      Maz 14 February 2018 14: 01
      +5

      Quote: voyaka uh
      Both sides are happy with win-win: both the goals are destroyed and the air defense is stretched. drinks

      NEVER, Do not fool us. I will correct. This is one-on-one for Syria. The Air Force is intimidated. And the Syrians perked up. And our air defense systems will fly like hot cakes on the market .. But buyers will think about your products. if their old Soviet missiles are knocked down So 2: 0 in favor of Russia.
  11. mvg
    mvg 14 February 2018 11: 25
    +4
    Well, yes 7 missiles 12 targets. And whom to believe?
    1. shvn
      shvn 14 February 2018 11: 34
      +4
      Believe only warriors)
      1. mvg
        mvg 14 February 2018 11: 57
        +4
        If this is Delilah, then huge doubts about 0.8 Shell are too tough. And like Hel ha'Avira, I believe more. The Jews would not have calmed down until everyone was astonished.
        Exactly what TsU gave ours. There is no doubt.
      2. Dym71
        Dym71 14 February 2018 12: 00
        +4
        Quote: shvn
        Believe only warriors)

        warriors wow! wassat
    2. yehat
      yehat 14 February 2018 12: 23
      +3
      if the missiles were armed with containers with biological weapons - for example, fleas, lice or cockroaches, it is quite possible to hit several targets with one missile, no matter how fast they run and swear.
  12. LMN
    LMN 14 February 2018 11: 33
    +4
    Oh how .. what
    But how so ...
  13. Hariton laptev
    Hariton laptev 14 February 2018 11: 39
    +4
    Well now it’s clear where the 25 launched missiles came from.
    1. amirbek
      amirbek 14 February 2018 12: 46
      +2
      Quote: Hariton Laptev
      where did 25 fired rockets come from

      it’s good that they didn’t break into f35’s
  14. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 February 2018 11: 41
    +8
    Syrian air defense demonstrated efficiency close to 0,8
    Apparently capable students. What Syrians can be congratulated on. Learn military affairs in this way, as was previously written on posters.
    1. yehat
      yehat 14 February 2018 12: 24
      +4
      something, I doubt that the Syrians demonstrated this effectiveness
      nationality is somewhat different ...
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 14 February 2018 13: 03
        +1
        Quote: yehat
        something, I doubt that the Syrians demonstrated this effectiveness
        nationality is somewhat different ...

        If a good instructor is standing behind and knocking on a temechka - it is quite possible.
    2. mvg
      mvg 14 February 2018 12: 39
      +4
      Learn how to present information correctly in the media. 0.8 Shell is not in the exercises. According to the finished command and targets, it’s not like the Israeli advanced combat skill and weapons. Those have been fighting all their lives and have repeatedly kicked the ass of air defense on the basis of the USSR, with our specialists at the helm. And here, without preparation, such fantastic results in a destroyed country.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 14 February 2018 12: 43
        +3
        0,8 it was said generally about air defense
        Of the 26 goals, 19 were intercepted. It turns out that Syrian air defense demonstrated efficacy close to 0,8
        And whoever sat in the place of the operators is known only to the initiates.
        1. mvg
          mvg 14 February 2018 13: 52
          +3
          7 ton missiles do not shoot down 250 kg. Actually, buk'i and shells can fight the Kyrgyz Republic. 9K317E "Buk-M2E" does not work well on agm-86, on the basis of which Israeli divisions are made.
          the plane that flew into the airspace most likely “worked” at the UAV control point near Palmyra, and this is far from being launched from its territory.
          and do not forget how they bombed a warehouse 5 km from the royal palace. no one farted. and there was our air defense. s-400.
          ps
          only my opinion.
          1. faradien
            faradien 17 February 2018 02: 09
            0
            S-400 was not there! They only cover our bases. If the S-400 were there, then the Israeli would not have snooped in there
  15. Romka47
    Romka47 14 February 2018 11: 54
    +3
    Oh guys, everything is too "blurred", and they won and these, and what is really there, only God knows.
  16. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 14 February 2018 12: 00
    +2
    Quote: q75agent
    I agree on February 14 and our Israeli "friends" still can not boast of anything lol they used to react quickly, and therefore nothing to brag about bully

    Today is their holiday !!! So they are slow ...
  17. KonoGon
    KonoGon 14 February 2018 12: 04
    +1
    Participated ..., the Shell sang its swan song and with hooves. what remains to boast of.
  18. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 14 February 2018 12: 04
    +5
    Quote: Krasnodar
    Quote: q75agent
    Well, they’ve already heard, they used the old S-75 positions, helped the Syrians, otherwise they didn’t reach their hands wink laughing And all working safe and sound tongue

    Dreams Dreams )))))

    Jew, Jew ... Well, why are you so unbeliever? Now, if there was information about the European victory, then it would immediately spread with praise and spit on the evidence ...
    1. Krasnodar
      Krasnodar 14 February 2018 13: 20
      +2
      Quote: Hurricane70
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Quote: q75agent
      Well, they’ve already heard, they used the old S-75 positions, helped the Syrians, otherwise they didn’t reach their hands wink laughing And all working safe and sound tongue

      Dreams Dreams )))))

      Jew, Jew ... Well, why are you so unbeliever? Now, if there was information about the European victory, then it would immediately spread with praise and spit on the evidence ...

      A guy of unknown (and uninteresting) nationality to me, in the program Time from October 1973 literally the following was said:
      According to the Syrian army reports, three times as many Israeli aircraft were shot down during the first three days of the war, than in the Zionist air force fleet before the war.
      And these are comments on the allies of the USSR. ))))
  19. viktor.
    viktor. 14 February 2018 12: 30
    +3
    Russia can test its anti-aircraft defense on the coalition and Israel, having designed it as the Syrian one, and to bring down this HERD of Vultures !!!
  20. Strips
    Strips 14 February 2018 12: 42
    +4
    In total, the Syrian air defense forces are armed with 8 S-200 air defense divisions, which were also supplied from the USSR, and about 20 Buk systems of various modifications.


    Not worth it, but stood, apparently the part was destroyed.

    These ravings about so many downed missiles are certainly good to feed the people and soldiers of Syria in order to raise the military spirit, but the reality and delusional statements of Syria need to be separated.

    Syria had already stated about the downed plane, about the allegedly killed Western advisers, recently it has just announced Israeli weapons, but there were no facts or evidence - nothing.

    Now in Syria, the story of a downed plane is overgrown with myths and legends.

    But on the destruction of part of the air defense of Syria, and other targets, the Syrians will be modestly silent. wink

  21. Ivan.A
    Ivan.A 14 February 2018 12: 47
    0
    Quote: Spartanez300
    More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

    So, it seems, both ours and Khmeimim perfectly cover this area.
  22. brr1
    brr1 14 February 2018 13: 14
    +1
    Quote: yehat
    I do not share your optimism. Israel successfully or not, but with impunity bombing.
    reducing the effectiveness of such strikes is wonderful, but the problem remains.

    and this problem is Zionism. And Iran can just solve it with God's help
  23. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 14 February 2018 13: 29
    +1
    We need more long-range anti-aircraft defense so that when the adversaries take off, they will be shot down.
  24. Maz
    Maz 14 February 2018 14: 24
    0
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Thrall
    Quote: Aron Zaavi
    Is Israel supposed to represent them?

    Was there a boy then? If there is no evidence of the effectiveness of the Israeli attacks. Maybe the F-16 pilots fired with fear at the olive trees and power poles? smile

    Yeah. May be. Have you read about the destruction of the Syrian nuclear reactor? It was in 2007 year. And the Syrian air defense system was then somewhat more combat-ready. I honestly do not understand the joy of a downed plane. And our tanks are on fire and soldiers are dying. This is generally normal for a warring army. We can still take a plane and even five so what? The question is not this, but the question of what price the opponent pays for this success.

    And in Israel there are terrorist attacks every day. Can all this military and reconnaissance power not be thrown at Syria, which is not up to Israel right now, but can order be restored in the country and an agreement is reached with the Arabs on peace? AND? Or not profitable?
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  26. high
    high 14 February 2018 15: 46
    +1
    [quote = Maz] [quote = Aaron Zaavi] [quote = Thrall] [quote = Aaron Zaavi]
    And in Israel there are terrorist attacks every day. Can all this military and intelligence power not be thrown at Syria, which is not up to Israel right now, but can restore order in the country and agree with the Arabs about peace? AND? Or not profitable? [/ Quote]
    Why is it a lie to write ...
    Russia is considered one of the most dangerous countries to live in, and Israel is one of the safest.
    In Russia per 100 thousand people - 9.2 murders
    In Israel - 1.8 kills
    http://gtmarket.ru/ratings/homicide-rate/info
    Relating to believing or not believing that Israel destroyed four Iranian and eight Syrian military facilities, including three SA-5 and SA-17 air defense batteries, recalls the six-day war of 1967 against the coalition of Egypt, Iraq, Jordan, Syria .. when Israel defeated these armies countries, captured Sinai and Gaza, and Egypt still celebrates the Victory over Israel ...
    1. Maz
      Maz 14 February 2018 20: 58
      +3
      Alta you read your own press, those who died every day. Who do you turn your brain to? We live in one country. IN ISRAEL. For three days, ten people or 11. did not count, but not less than a dozen. And the terrorist attack is every day. Our tourism in the anus. Where are those four lemons of tourists a year that were before? Only on arms and we leave
  27. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 14 February 2018 15: 49
    +3
    Bravo Syrians! Great job ... keep it up! Wiped the nose of the vaunted Israeli Air Force..he heh
  28. dojjdik
    dojjdik 14 February 2018 16: 26
    +1
    here someone rightly said that if the Jews would keep Syria’s air defense in constant “tension” then it would be very expensive, absolutely true; however, you can also keep the Jewish "kumpol" in the same condition if you launch unexpected and targeted rocket attacks on military facilities in Israel; but is there really enough determination for the “Syrians” to finally stop playing idiotic humanism, after all, as everyone knows, impunity leads to rudeness in arithmetic sequence; therefore, sooner or later, the Syrian Air Force hehe Syria, of course, Syria still sitting at the controls of planes can make the same shelling of Israel, no, of course, not violating the border
    1. Strips
      Strips 14 February 2018 16: 36
      +4
      Quote: dojjdik
      if you launch unexpected and targeted rocket attacks on military installations in Israel


      Are you laughing You do not understand what will happen next?
    2. gerkost2012
      gerkost2012 14 February 2018 21: 50
      +1
      Both the Syrians and the DLNR army in the Donbass do not voluntarily play in the ostentatious "idiotic humanism." Both participants in the process, although at different points, have the same “king peacemaker”. From the fact that there is an order "not to shoot, not to succumb to provocations, not to finish off the wounded one", etc., first of all, it is the fighters in positions, but civilians, who suffer. But in war, it should be, as in war, the enemy is destroyed.
    3. Alexander Borisov
      Alexander Borisov 16 February 2018 13: 35
      0
      The Syrians would first cope with the American fosterlings, and if, in addition to getting involved in everything else, the war with Israel, then write is gone.
  29. Wolka
    Wolka 14 February 2018 17: 11
    +3
    in any case, the God's chosen ones have made it clear that they certainly will not go unpunished for bandit air raids ...
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 14 February 2018 17: 27
      +3
      Colleagues, here is still not an advertising agency. I’ll say streamlined ... They applied 120 cr air to the ground .. 40 percent "in the head." On target by 3. The goals are compact. In general, repair, and you will profit, new ones will be ordered.
  30. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 14 February 2018 19: 10
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Spartanez300
    More so far there is no desire for the Israelis to make raids on Syria received a slope angry if Russia transfers Syria С-400 to Syria then no options at all negative

    What are you talking about? After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow to Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense. A couple more such raids in Syria will not be air defense again as in Bekaa in 1982. And what targets shot down the Shell, false or KR, it is necessary to check well.

    PS
    From Arabian tales, I prefer "1000 and one night."

    Well, finally you caught your boastful lies ... So what happened there?
    As you boastfully put it:
    "After the loss of aircraft over Israeli territory, the IDF inflicted a massive blow on Syrian targets. They bombed what they wanted and where they wanted. It is alleged that as a result of the strike, the Syrians thinned from 30% to 50% of their air defense ..."
    And in the video for this article what is said?
    "The truth and falsehood of Wagner: what really happened in Syria."
    Well, Shurygin, a person worthy of trust, although you will whine the opposite ...
    You are a gossipman, Associate Professor!
    1. Maz
      Maz 14 February 2018 21: 01
      0
      That is, the Syrians (Russians) will have to demolish something else to get it - no need to shoot at Syrian territory. We wait. Chew the seeds and popcorn.
  31. Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 14 February 2018 20: 53
    +1
    Israel bombs when it wants all the border countries and no one raises questions at the UN that is illegal and people died ...
  32. gerkost2012
    gerkost2012 14 February 2018 21: 44
    0
    Jacob Kedmi called this air defense system, this is the S-200. If the “Shell-S” misses up to 30% of the targets, then this is not good. And if they carry nuclear charges?
    1. Alexander Borisov
      Alexander Borisov 16 February 2018 13: 02
      0
      The experience of Syria has prompted Russian designers to pay attention to.
  33. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 15 February 2018 07: 30
    0
    The aircraft’s system reacts faster or with a delay depending on the angle of attack (dead zones), so it’s not quite right to say that it went wrong. Our Su-25 was also shot down, the response system worked late. But this will not happen on the modernized Su-25CM3. The airborne defense complex Vitebsk is a powerful dazzling electronic warfare. During his work, enemy radars fall silent. Missiles with infrared heads fly by the Su-25SM3.
    1. Alexander Borisov
      Alexander Borisov 16 February 2018 12: 58
      0
      Well, if so. But why is the operation in Syria not using modernized Su-25s?
  34. Ivanov IV
    Ivanov IV 15 February 2018 19: 08
    0
    Coef. 0.8 showed primarily low air defense density. Conclusion: increase the number of modern air defense systems, including istr. MOMENT.
  35. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 15 February 2018 22: 53
    +1
    this is more true infa, well then. Well done Syrians, I wish you success further.
  36. Urantian
    Urantian 16 February 2018 11: 21
    0
    It was necessary to destroy all Israeli aircraft, if they fired rockets into Syria, then these planes needed to be shot down on their territory ... It was necessary to increase Syrian air defense ....
    1. ZVO
      ZVO 16 February 2018 12: 51
      +1
      Quote: Urantian
      It was necessary to destroy all Israeli aircraft, if they fired rockets into Syria, then these planes needed to be shot down on their territory ... It was necessary to increase Syrian air defense ....


      And what is Syria-this is Russian territory?
      Or Syrians Russian citizens?
      Syria is a non-existent country in which they want to do what they’re doing right now: the USA, Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Iran, Jordan, Israel, Russia, Iraq. And all sorts of other Kurds ...
      No more Syria really.

      And Russia could really dictate the terms if it interfered in 2012-2013.
      Would intervene on time.
      For real.

      And all. what we are doing now is no different from Turkish actions.
      Or Iranian.
    2. Alexander Borisov
      Alexander Borisov 16 February 2018 12: 55
      0
      They are not fools to enter the zone of destruction of air defense systems. One F-16, most likely due to crew error, ran into the affected area.
  37. Alexander Borisov
    Alexander Borisov 16 February 2018 12: 51
    +1
    A great opportunity to test Russian air defense systems in a combat situation.