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Minsk will host the next round of negotiations on the Donbass

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The next meeting of the contact group on the settlement of the conflict in the east of Ukraine and its working groups will be held today in Minsk, transfers RIA News.


Minsk will host the next round of negotiations on the Donbass


"Minsk is preparing for the Wednesday meeting of the contact group on the settlement of the conflict in the east of Ukraine", - said the Foreign Ministry of Belarus.

Recall that at the end of January, the parties to the conflict reaffirmed their commitment to the declared truce, stressing “the need for issuance and observance of relevant orders, including the need for disciplinary measures for violating the cease-fire.” However, ceasefire violations continue to continue.

In Minsk actively discussing dilution of forces and means, the purpose of which is to increase the distance between the positions of the parties in conflict ... DNI fulfills its obligations. Thus, the corresponding orders were given to departments and published, promotion is not carried forward, proceedings for violations are held regularly,
Representative of the Donetsk Republic Denis Pushilin told reporters.

At the same time, the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine, Oleksandr Turchynov, said that over the past two years, the Ukrainian security forces "in some areas have advanced 10 kilometers and more beyond the boundary line in the Donbas".

At a meeting of the contact group we will be forced to raise the question of systematic violations of the Ukrainian armed forces of the Minsk agreements and ceasefire. About violations about which one of Ukrainian TV channels so proudly told yesterday officially official - Secretary of the NSDC,
said Russia's plenipotentiary at the talks, Boris Gryzlov.

According to him, Turchinov, in fact, recognized as a fact what the representatives of the Russian Federation repeatedly talked about during the 2016 and 2017 years.

Namely - about the constant attempts of the Ukrainian Armed Forces and other Ukrainian formations to move beyond the demarcation line in the Donbass, about their constant violations of the cease-fire regimes, about seizing the so-called "gray zones" along the line, about other armed provocations, which they then tried to write off the responsibility of the opposing the side
added Gryzlov.

In this connection, Russia intends to "ask for the safety subgroup coordinator of the contact group Mr. Apakan to assess these statements."

We also intend to request the reflection of the actions of the Ukrainian subdivisions, noted by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council, in the reports of the OSCE SMM, in particular, moving in some directions to 10 kilometers from the line of demarcation,
said the plenipotentiary of the Russian Federation.

The Acting Foreign Minister of the DPR, Natalya Nikonorova, noted that the fulfillment of all points of the Minsk agreements is hampered by the unresolved political issues that are the basis for resolving the situation in the Donbas.

After all, political points should be the basis for a comprehensive and long-term settlement of the situation in the Donbas,
she said.

According to her, instead of direct dialogue with the DPR and the LPR, Kiev “is trying to circumvent the resulting impasse through an arbitrary interpretation of the Minsk Agreements and legislative initiative.”

Thus, Ukraine demonstrates its disinterest in restoring peace in the Donbass, without taking any concrete steps, but only creating the appearance of activities to implement the Set of measures. Kiev’s reluctance to resolve the conflict in the Donbas by diplomatic means increases the risk of a resumption of hostilities,
concluded Nikonorova.
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  1. Streletskos
    Streletskos 14 February 2018 08: 52
    +15
    Maybe they decide
    What will be the benefit
    1. forester
      forester 14 February 2018 08: 56
      +10
      Quote: Streletskos
      Maybe they decide
      What will be the benefit

      Nothing will happen - Minsk is whipping water in a mortar.
      1. Going
        Going 14 February 2018 09: 09
        +2
        Someone needs this process, is needed as a cover for solving completely different issues.
        1. Logall
          Logall 14 February 2018 09: 18
          +6
          Quote: Going
          Someone needs this process

          It is needed exclusively by the West to attack Russia. And all the participants understand that all this is farce! But already bogged down in it ... Miscalculated when they signed Minsk1-2 ...
          Victor, good morning! hi
          1. cniza
            cniza 14 February 2018 09: 20
            +2
            That's right, this is an occasion for pressure on Russia, and as long as it suits them, the negotiations will be endless. Greetings to Alexander! hi
        2. vlad66
          vlad66 14 February 2018 09: 31
          +7
          From transfusion from empty to empty, it’s even more useless than from this talking room. yes
          1. Logall
            Logall 14 February 2018 09: 35
            +2
            Vlad hi At
            Quote: vlad66
            transfusion from empty

            no disastrous consequences are expected ... Unless only fatigue! And here they drag us on purpose, so that the process continues, and people die. And the next escalation was inevitable!
      2. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 14 February 2018 10: 56
        +2
        Much of what Strelkov spoke of then and now is worthy of attention, it is confirmed whether it has come true or is being realized.

        Strelkov believed and believes that the people in Moscow who made decisions on the Crimea and the Donbass did not take into account all the possible consequences.
        At the same time, the Kremlin urgently and feverishly took measures to stifle the Russian spring, which caused an explosion of Russian national identity, which so frightened the Kremlin oligarchic authority.
        “Our dear state elite has stepped on a sore spot - private property that it has abroad, offshore, bank accounts,” said Girkin.
        "Freezing" the conflict, says Strelkov, the Russian elite tried to protect themselves from new sanctions by the West and the United States.
        “They stopped on the spot, began to stomp in indecision. As a result, there was a situation when the Kremlin tried to fix the status quo, freeze the war, postpone the war until later, it may resolve itself, ”he said,“ Moscow is well aware that the war in the Donbass cannot be “frozen” in long".

        Interview with Igor Girkin (I. Strelkov) published by 09.12.2017 on the Russian Watch website and lecture by I. Strelkov “Geopolitical conflicts in the post-Soviet space” at the RANEPA, published by the Russian Planet portal on 17 on April 2015.

        Here you can read and see:
        http://forum.topwar.ru/profile/8292-pax-tecum/
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2018 08: 56
      +2
      It seems that they will stir up some kind of “Minsk - 99 plus”. lol And so, they wait until the donkey dies or the shah dies.
    3. Giant thought
      Giant thought 14 February 2018 08: 58
      +2
      Like V.S. Vysotsky: I’m flying Moscow-Odessa again ... They gather in Minsk, grind the graters, and the effect is practically zero, as the APU violated all agreements, they violate it and will violate it.
    4. Father of a Soldier
      Father of a Soldier 14 February 2018 09: 29
      +1
      Quote: Streletskos
      Maybe they decide
      What will be the benefit

      The talking room will be useful when the next "boiler" is formed with a lid for the APU, at least before that it was. As soon as we’re nipped, they’ll immediately become accommodating.
      1. ul_vitalii
        ul_vitalii 14 February 2018 09: 36
        +6
        Minsk is in the basement, but let's see what the roof decides.
  2. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 14 February 2018 08: 52
    +3
    There is no sense in these negotiations, the only thing just regarding the exchange of prisoners.
    1. siberalt
      siberalt 14 February 2018 09: 01
      +1
      How long will it take to catch new “prisoners”? belay Nobody canceled the same trade in prisoners. Volunteers for that dime a dozen.
  3. prior
    prior 14 February 2018 09: 06
    +1
    Only the guaranteed prospect of becoming the "200th", in case of violation of the ceasefire, will force the "heroes and the cyborgs" to abide by this regime.
    Otherwise, how? Bandera promised, but all believed them? Yes of course.......
    1. Berber
      Berber 14 February 2018 09: 10
      0
      When the sex of a country is frozen, even the prospect of extinction will not help.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 14 February 2018 09: 12
    +2
    we will be forced to raise the question
    Three years from empty to empty and without shifts in a positive direction. It is time now not to “raise the question”, but to lower the barrier by blocking the oxygen to the ukronatsiks and screaming in their support.
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 14 February 2018 09: 29
      +2
      It's time! Only the Republics, on their own, do not solve this issue - not for nothing. And those who declared in 2014 - “We don’t leave ours,” the farther from 2014, the quieter and less noticeable!
      1. Pax tecum
        Pax tecum 14 February 2018 11: 07
        +4
        ... "Since May 7, I have been responsible for people and defended their interests. They are the same Russian people as we are. That they are not citizens of Russia is not their fault ... We fought for New Russia. Militias stood up for Russia and Novorossia ... What Russian officials think about this, does not bother me "...
        2014 MOSCOW MISSED THE PERFECT MOMENT FOR DESTRUCTING AN ENEMY
        - A strategic mistake was made in connection with a wrong assessment of the international situation, including the situation in Ukraine. Trying to avoid war, we did not avoid it. But the war continues ... The war did not stop for a single day: neither after Minsk-1, nor after Minsk-2. It was replaced by truces, while the Ukrainian army was rearming, replenishing and preparing for new battles. And now Ukraine does not hide that it is preparing for war.
        ... we missed the perfect moment to defeat the enemy, when it could be destroyed with minimal losses, actually reformat Ukraine and return at least half of it to the sphere of influence of Russia. Moreover, the population from Kharkov to Odessa was ready to welcome Russian troops with open arms. People were ready for any form of integration with Russia.

        From an interview with Igor Girkin (I. Strelkov) published by 09.12.2017 on the Russky Dozor Internet review site and lecture by I. Strelkov “Geopolitical conflicts in the post-Soviet space” at the RANEPA, published by the Russian Planet portal on 17 on April 2015.
      2. vasya.pupkin
        vasya.pupkin 14 February 2018 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: Chichikov
        It's time! Only the Republics, on their own, do not solve this issue - not for nothing. And those who declared in 2014 - “We don’t leave ours,” the farther from 2014, the quieter and less noticeable!

        All independents were either killed or kicked out- "MURDER" rules ...
  5. LMN
    LMN 14 February 2018 09: 59
    +3
    This is necessary and important. The dialogue is important. Bad, good, not important. It is important to speak.
    I do not understand such frank skepticism from commenting .. what

    Look at a recent interview with Lavrov, he bluntly said: The main thing is to say.

    Let even the “seventh” Minsk be .. it's better than if in March Ukrainians start attacking the DNI and the LC. Few people will not see it .. neither in Ukraine, nor in Russia, nor in the world .. Let them speak better.
    1. win
      win 14 February 2018 10: 12
      +1
      it's better than if in March Ukrainians will begin to attack the DNI and LC

      But how dare they hinder the election?
      1. reservist
        reservist 14 February 2018 10: 19
        +1
        It would be better to start attacking earlier.
        So the Olympics would be ripped off and
        competitions of American and Norwegian asthmatics at the Olympics
        no one could interfere. request
      2. LMN
        LMN 14 February 2018 10: 23
        +3
        Quote: Siegen
        it's better than if in March Ukrainians will begin to attack the DNI and LC

        But how dare they hinder the election?

        They will not dare. They will dare.
    2. Pax tecum
      Pax tecum 14 February 2018 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: LMN
      This is necessary and important. The dialogue is important. Bad, good, not important. It is important to speak.
      I do not understand such frank skepticism from commenting .. what

      Look at a recent interview with Lavrov, he bluntly said: The main thing is to say.
      ..Let they talk better.


      So, after all, they’re not even afraid at all, they’re no longer afraid ... talkers.
      While we are "talking," they do there.
      Thoroughly prepare.
      In February-March, 2014 Ukrainians were simply afraid to start a military operation, they were afraid of the reaction of Russia and, as a result, the quick liquidation of the junta. But, the Kremlin began to speak ... Poroshenko shook hands ... Recognize the power ...
      Igor Ivanovich Strelkov was right in everything.
      Especially, in relation to this "guardian for the fate of the Russian people", which Surkov Vladislav Yuryevich (initially Dudaev Aslanbek Andarbekovich) is an assistant to the president of the Russian Federation.
    3. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 14 February 2018 12: 55
      +2
      Quote: LMN
      This is necessary and important. The dialogue is important. Bad, good, not important. It is important to speak.
      I do not understand such frank skepticism from commenting .. what

      Look at a recent interview with Lavrov, he bluntly said: The main thing is to say.

      Let even the “seventh” Minsk be .. it's better than if in March Ukrainians start attacking the DNI and the LC. Few people will not see it .. neither in Ukraine, nor in Russia, nor in the world .. Let them speak better.

      Well, if for you the Armenian Kolontaryan is an authority, then of course, here in NEW RUSSIA, many have noticed that the Russian Federation will "strictly" observe Minsk ..., and it is clearly written there that LDNR is a part of dill. And you, dear "couch", asked the residents of Donbass, do they agree with this? Or do you think that Surkov puppets / zakhar and carpenter / signed and that's it? ...
      And you ask the members of the forum / Vladyka .., Separ DNR, Blondin and others ./- they will answer.
      1. LMN
        LMN 14 February 2018 14: 07
        +3
        Quote: vasya.pupkin
        Quote: LMN
        This is necessary and important. The dialogue is important. Bad, good, not important. It is important to speak.
        I do not understand such frank skepticism from commenting .. what

        Look at a recent interview with Lavrov, he bluntly said: The main thing is to say.

        Let even the “seventh” Minsk be .. it's better than if in March Ukrainians start attacking the DNI and the LC. Few people will not see it .. neither in Ukraine, nor in Russia, nor in the world .. Let them speak better.

        Well, if for you the Armenian Kolontaryan is an authority, then of course, here in NEW RUSSIA, many have noticed that the Russian Federation will "strictly" observe Minsk ..., and it is clearly written there that LDNR is a part of dill. And you, dear "couch", asked the residents of Donbass, do they agree with this? Or do you think that Surkov puppets / zakhar and carpenter / signed and that's it? ...
        And you ask the members of the forum / Vladyka .., Separ DNR, Blondin and others ./- they will answer.

        What will they answer? what "We want to fight!" ??
        I don’t understand, to be honest ...
        1. vasya.pupkin
          vasya.pupkin 14 February 2018 16: 38
          +2
          Those who agree to live under ukrofashists, we do not understand.
  6. win
    win 14 February 2018 10: 07
    +3
    Night. Wife wakes Poroshenko:
    - Petrusha, get up, there Putin is calling. As for the Minsk agreements.
    Petr Alekseevich grabs the telephone receiver ...
    Wife:
    - Petrusha, so he rings the doorbell ... And with "polite people" ... am
    1. axxmanm
      axxmanm 14 February 2018 10: 23
      +2
      already in May 2014, immediately after the visit of the bra, such a "joke" began to seem like an inept propaganda hppshy stuffing.
      1. win
        win 14 February 2018 10: 40
        +1
        Better outreach than armed invasion am
        1. reservist
          reservist 14 February 2018 10: 47
          +1
          armed invasion

          Leader:
          - So, our show continues. At stake - $ 1 billion.
          And here you are, President Poroshenko, the question:
          When will the armed invasion of Donbass happen?
          Answers: in a week, in a month, in a year, it will not happen at all.
          I remind you that you still have three tips left.
          - So so so. Perfectly. Which one to choose. Can I call a friend?
          - Well, of course. And who will we call?
          - To whom. I told you a friend.
          Connect me urgently with President Trump am
  7. taiga2018
    taiga2018 14 February 2018 10: 51
    0
    Of course, I’m a complete ignoramus in diplomacy, but in my opinion it’s just useless ...
  8. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 14 February 2018 11: 54
    0
    If grandmother had the same as grandfather, then of course she would be grandfather! How one wants to seem great and significant, but for some reason no one notices this except the bearers of this significance themselves. So they have to poor guys again and again to sit at this damned table, in spite of all their loud statements, until the face is touched on the corner of the table for better comprehension!
  9. Antares
    Antares 14 February 2018 12: 14
    0
    Strange, everyone scolds Minsk (Ukraine, the Russian Federation, ORDiLO) and all the adherents of the MC invariably.
    In Ukraine, they are terribly unhappy with Minsk. But still they say, the main thing is that there is a platform where you can conduct a dialogue.
    Why should Ukraine begin a large-scale operation? Without confidence about Sev. The wind? Ukraine deliberately buried in the trenches to be able to isolate the diseased area. And wait. As much as you need. According to the plan of Gorbulin, there will be no war. There will be slow isolation and transfer process.
    1. vasya.pupkin
      vasya.pupkin 14 February 2018 13: 00
      +2
      To the pan-head Antares: do you say "transfer process"? Well, well, dream about it, just don’t forget to “change hands”, otherwise you’ll grate blisters, “dreaming”.
    2. Chichikov
      Chichikov 14 February 2018 14: 12
      +2
      The transfer process will not be and this has been repeatedly stated by the leaders of the Republics! After what you’ve done ... they are waiting for you here, only in prisoners of war.
      The "Minsk" process, in which it is possible to kill the citizens of the Republics, but it is impossible to punish them - we don’t need to be talked about in Minsk, Moscow, the EU and the USA!
    3. Andrey K
      Andrey K 14 February 2018 17: 33
      +6
      Quote: Antares
      ... According to the plan of Gorbulin, there will be no war. There will be slow isolation and transfer process ...

      Softly stale.
      ORDILO? This is what for the on / used Ukrainian abbreviation, explain more clearly.
      The Gorbulin Plan?
      According to the plans of "Ivanov, Petrov and Sidorov", LDNR will go to the administrative borders of the former Donetsk and Lugansk regions.
      "All adherents of MS" - do not speak for all. LDNR according to the armed guards of the OSCE.
      Buried say - well, dig deeper hi