When and with what attacked the Khmeimim airbase: correspondence dispute between the Russian Defense Ministry and RBC

The Russian Ministry of Defense releases a statement claiming no attack drones was not at the Khmeimim air base in Syria on the night of January 2018, 1. We are talking about the reaction of the main defense department to the publication of RBC material, in which the previously announced mortar shelling of the airbase was already presented as a “drone attack”, moreover, which took place on January XNUMX.

TASS cites a ministry statement:

In today's article RBC “Attack with mortars on the base Khmeimim was attacked by drones” does not correspond to the reality of everything: from the date and time of the shelling to the method of attack and its actual consequences. We want to emphasize that 1 January 2018, the airbase worked as planned. There were no shelling, raids or other incidents.

RBC in his material he referred to a certain unnamed source and literally reported the following:

New Year's attack on the Russian Khmeimim airbase (Syrian province of Latakia) was carried out using drones, and not mortars, a source in the Ministry of Defense told RBC and confirmed a source close to the General Staff.

The Defense Ministry claims that the attack was carried out on the evening of December 31 using exactly the mortars that were used by the sabotage group of terrorists. Then two Russian servicemen died.

In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

Comments

[Thrall]

For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

[vlad66]

In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

The one who has problems with money is the source. All of this is muddy.

[Scoun]

Quote: vlad66

In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

The one who has problems with money is the source. All of this is muddy.

She ... these are those who have problems with conscience and the salary of employees of the Ministry of Defense is sufficient for food.
And I also ignore RBC and the type of ramblers for about 10 years.

[vlad66]

Quote: Scoun

She ... these are those who have problems with conscience and the salary of employees of the Ministry of Defense is sufficient for food.

You correctly noticed the colleague’s conscience, because there isn’t much money, the more the higher the requests. Rђ RІRѕS, source close to it smells very bad. It could be the general from the general staff and the janitor Uncle Vasya.

[Shurik70]

What does it have to do with it? Ordinary distortion of facts.
One says: "The drones attack was on January 5-6, and the first was a mortar attack."
Another: "there was no attack by drones on January 1st."
Third: "Moscow Region denies attack by drones of the Russian base."

[smart ass]

But in fact, we all live in an information vacuum, what they want and will pour into our ears that rbc that my russia 24

[BAI]

Absolutely right.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Clever man

But in fact, we all live in an information vacuum, what they want and will pour into our ears that rbc that my russia 24

advise how not to live for all of us in a "vacuum" ??? By the way, are we all who ???

[Flyer_64]

If you live in an infovacuum, then you should change the country. Noise rises because the choices, fly in the ointment. And Moscow Oblast helps them even a little.

[Ascetic]

Quote: Clever man

But in fact, we all live in an information vacuum, what they want and will pour into our ears that rbc that my russia 24

We live on the background of informational noise and a waterfall of fakes and stuffing flavored with propaganda, but not in the infovacuum, in which the info war loses all meaning. Another thing is that it is quite difficult to isolate objective information in this muddy stream, this is true

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: vlad66

The one who has problems with money is the source.

or maybe there was no source ??? if I say that I am a three-star general, I have got shoulder straps Well this does not mean that everything is so !!!

[vlad66]

Quote: Nikolai the Greek

or maybe there was no source ???

Nicholas I will not repeat myself

Quote: vlad66

But the source close to smells very bad. It could be the general from the General Staff and the janitor Uncle Vasya.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: vlad66

Nikolay I won’t repeat myself

Quote: vlad66

But the source close to smells very bad. It could be the general from the General Staff and the janitor Uncle Vasya.

or maybe there is no source !!!

[Yuyuka]

Quote: vlad66

In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

The one who has problems with money is the source. All of this is muddy.

call them or something ... I am also a representative ... IN and the title is I wonder how much dollars are being spent?

[Dimontius]

For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there).

[DenZ]

Quote: Dimontius

And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels

In economics, I agree a lot of interesting things. But such stupid stuffing like this also happens. From this we can conclude (a somewhat far-fetched truth) that they do not speak the full truth about the economy, but pour “chernukha”.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Dimontius

... And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there) ...

Do not tell a colleague!
In my opinion, RBC is a peddler of the dirt that Rain did not blow. The only difference is that Dozhd directly processes State Depot cookies without hesitation, and RBC teaches its information as obtained from "reliable sources." Although, that in the first case, that in the second, the source is still the same stinking barrel of slops.
Why does the Defense Ministry in general engage in refutations of RBC's insinuations - this is exactly what they sought. Free advertising.

[Dimontius]

I don’t want to be a lawyer for RBC, but I did not see the “dirt” as you said, which is directly noticeable. But what I often saw was that RBC was the first to report the news, and then the federal channels.

[Andrey K]

Quote: Dimontius

... I do not want to be a lawyer for RBC, but I did not see the “dirt” as you said, which is directly noticeable. But what I often saw was that RBC was the first to report the news, and then the federal channels ...

Colleague. A lie, it is in any form a lie.
"Rain", "Echo Matzah" - they lie half-heartedly, they have their own audience of adherents.
RBC also lies, but lies more accurately - it takes some kind of a tiny fact, which is not disputed by anyone at all. To this fact, RBC winds up a huge lie, referring to "reliable sources" for more convincing reasons.
As a result: we remove aside the fact of the shelling of “Khmeimim” - a lot of dirt remains.
You probably read the article poorly:

... mortar shelling of the air base was already presented as a "drone attack", moreover, which took place on January 1 ...

RBC lies: both in terms of shelling time and in the weapons used.
And tomorrow, "Echo Matzi", will refer to the information "Rain", as a fait accompli. The day after tomorrow, the whole trio will argue about the "daily shelling" of "Khmeimim" and the inability of the Defense Ministry to defend not only Syria, but even the personnel and the military, of its own air base.
That's all the technology.
In vain, the editors of these sewer drains, to the embassy in the North American impasse, go to the planning meeting.
Read the press

[Dimontius]

Yes, since 2014, the head has been torn from this press. I read it daily, recently I’ve thought about quitting it all ... otherwise, the news flows are all in a negative light. I am aware of the tricks that you say, they use the Western press recklessly. And already from it their followers draw from rain and echo, and all Russophobes from Russian television shows, "ala: greg, michael, isaev, nadezhdin." But the inflating of an elephant fly on RBC, I did not notice again. What exactly happens is the facts about import substitution, the lack of purchasing power of the population and artificial growth in the economy, etc. I am inclined to believe that you are simply biased towards this resource. Because he’s the only one who is trying to present at least a little more critical assessment of the situation than the Fed. channels that are often unpleasant to listen to, of course, but denying is stupid. I don’t even know if we have any other channel, which is not yours, not ours .... tell me, maybe I’ll watch it. PS I'm not a lawyer for RBC IMHO

[not main]

Do not read any! (Dog's heart)

[Andrey K]

Quote: Dimontius

... yes, since 2014, the head has been torn from this press ...
... tell me, maybe I'll see it. PS I'm not a lawyer for RBC IMHO ...

You understand me perfectly, except for a biased attitude towards RBC. To me in parallel, whom and how they spud. They have their own audience.
Prompt on viewing, here, too, as they say - the taste and color.
Some time ago, I began to periodically browse Russia Today. Impression - even very nothing. At least, there is an understanding that ours (and not only) work, with a view to foreigners. The channel is state, but without fanatical liberalism and ur-patriotism. I like it. Quality news, quality analytics.
Look, maybe you will like this channel more

[Dimontius]

I watched Cross Talk at one time, there is still a leading short one with glasses. He stopped, because they constantly drowned for ours. I have nothing against it, but when the leading critics without thinking, and all the guests without exception, it becomes somehow uninteresting. Gave up. Honestly, I generally ignore all analytical articles / programs, and leave only the factual, i.e. news. For over the years, so many analysts have poured into the head that the analyst himself is already without them) aaaa ... yes .. here's another type of American Alex Jones, a cool dude, he says .... but quickly gets bored because he conveyed his position, and repeats it from time to time. boring tovarischi))

[The black]

For me, honest journalism is nonsense. Honest journalists (if they still remain) can be entered in the red book. Who pays - he orders the music.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: Black

For me, honest journalism is nonsense. Honest journalists (if they still remain) can be entered in the red book. Who pays - he orders the music.

V.I. Lenin described the principle of partisanship in literature as early as 1905 in the article "PARTY ORGANIZATION AND PARTY LITERATURE". It is also formulated as "who pays, he orders the music." Still relevant.

[Nikolai Grek]

Quote: Dimontius

And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there).

but there you can read the opposite articles ... on the same economy ... in one article everything is sad, in the other - everything is very good !!!

[RUSS]

Quote: Thrall

For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

In vain, for example, on the same "Rain" you hate, there are worthy reports and analysts, and now respected people come to visit them, for example, Karen Shakhnazarov and the Communist Party deputy Sergei Shargunov recently gave them an interview.

[vlad66]

Quote: RUSS

for example on the same "Hatred" you hate

God forbid Russia from such

worthy reporting and analytics,

[RUSS]

Quote: vlad66

Quote: RUSS

for example on the same "Hatred" you hate

God forbid Russia from such

worthy reporting and analytics,

To each his own, or “his boys” Solovyov with Kiselev or “outcasts” of RBC, Rain, etc.

[vlad66]

Quote: RUSS

To each his own, or “his boys” Solovyov with Kiselev or “outcasts” of RBC, Rain

You know, you’ll probably be surprised, for four years now, as I don’t look at these garbage dumps. With the Solovyovs, Kiselevs, Sobchaks and Venediktovs, they’ve somehow been sick more expensive and have been ill with politics for a long time. . And all these Rains, RBC and others will change so that white can not be distinguished from black.

[RUSS]

Quote: vlad66

Quote: RUSS

To each his own, or “his boys” Solovyov with Kiselev or “outcasts” of RBC, Rain

You know, you’ll probably be surprised, for four years now, as I don’t look at these garbage dumps. With the Solovyovs, Kiselevs, Sobchaks and Venediktovs, they’ve somehow been sick more expensive and have been ill with politics for a long time. . And all these Rains, RBC and others will change so that white can not be distinguished from black.

[Svarog51]

Volodya, welcome

So over there Soviet sights I watch on TV and I hang out at VO.

You are here just recently MIKHAN cartoon ate about a hunting dog. Here is another cartoon from the same creators.

[Captain Pushkin]

Quote: RUSS

for example, on the same “Hatred” you hate, there is a worthy reporting and analytics

Mixed with the truth and lying for the truth will come down.

[not main]

Quote: RUSS

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Quote: Thrall
For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

In vain, for example, on the same "Rain" you hate, there are worthy reports and analysts, and now respected people come to visit them, for example, Karen Shakhnazarov and the Communist Party deputy Sergei Shargunov recently gave them an interview.

Question dear by whom?

[Serg koma]

The coolest excuse of all the bad smelling media is "unnamed source". You can compose anything under such a source.

[bane's jacket]

Quote: Thrall

For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

Just wondering, what are you watching and reading? Maybe RIA-Novosti, NTV, Dmitry Kiselyov?

[not main]

Quote: bane's jacket

Just wondering, what are you watching and reading? Maybe RIA-Novosti, NTV, Dmitry Kiselyov?

And VGTRK, and much more! But not what you want a jacket.

[bane's jacket]

Quote: non-primary

Quote: bane's jacket

Just wondering, what are you watching and reading? Maybe RIA-Novosti, NTV, Dmitry Kiselyov?

And VGTRK, and much more! But not what you want a jacket.

Can you watch this live?

[Falcond]

What are you reading?

[Egorovich]

These sources, located in the Ministry of Defense and in the General Staff, and merging information from RBC, must be caught and secured a “worthy” place on the bunk. But RBC has long been necessary to close, as unnecessary.

[Don]

Quote: Egorovich

These sources, located in the Ministry of Defense and in the General Staff, and merging information from RBC, must be caught and secured a “worthy” place on the bunk. But RBC has long been necessary to close, as unnecessary.

Then, together with RBC and the Echo of Moscow, you need to close the "balers" like you, in fairness. Let the people rest from the extremes.

[Egorovich]

And RBC, and the Echo of Moscow, and such as Donskoy - all in a slop pit. There they belong.

[bane's jacket]

Quote: Egorovich

And RBC, and the Echo of Moscow, and such as Donskoy - all in a slop pit. There they belong.

With guests?

[RUSS]

Quote: bane's jacket

With guests?

Now the leftist Maxim Shevchenko is working on the “echo of Moscow”, where he also had a snack with Svanidze.

[Don]

Quote: Egorovich

And RBC, and the Echo of Moscow, and such as Donskoy - all in a slop pit. There they belong.

Yes, the fact of the matter is that the slop pit is now free, and all those with whom it should be filled are in power and robbing the people or are its supporters. PS: sometimes you have to fall in answers to your toilet level of communication, because another don't understand

[Kent0001]

Are there these sources? Or is it an RBC advertising move? and nothing more.

[Falcond]

If you catch them, then where will the Russian land come from?
Where do rumors come from to write comments here angry about Wagners, drones attacks .. and so on.
And you have advice: watch the first channel and Konashenkov .. they will definitely tell the whole truth!)

[KVU-NSVD]

At least on the subject of what are these sources at RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff

These sources are called finger suction. And the goal is to raise the wave of "everything is bad" and "everything is not so clear"

[Genry]

Soon we will begin to discuss Aunt Mani’s hassle with Baba Ira.

[Herculesic]

When they arrived, some Ministry of Defense indicates to the Ministry of Defense what is really happening at our military bases! It's time to start asking the press for their words! And to answer with huge fines, and a license, for a lie!

[Antidote]

MO, of course, like an angel, either screenshots from a toy, then Amer’s turntables from Afghanistan will give out for their own. Yes, yes, believe everything without a doubt.

[faiver]

we don’t know the truth of one fig, but we actually are not supposed to know it ...

[Kent0001]

Believe RBC-do not respect yourself. What are you talking about? Although our Ministry of Defense also messed up, so many of him also lack faith ... well, not 100 percent.

[andrej-shironov]

That's it everywhere! It's unclear. This is always the case with the current government in Russia; no one is responsible for anything.

[Lekxnumx]

Why now? Everything ingenious is simple, there was no evidence of video materials in the world media and on the network to prove. The Russian Federation waited, waited, and they said there was nothing.
How else can one explain such a late reaction?
If there was no attack, check all the cases in a week you go out and say there wasn’t.
I don’t want to approve, but still I don’t trust the MoD. But I don’t trust any RBC broads either.

[vlad66]

Quote: Lek38

I don’t want to approve, but still I don’t trust the MO.

I, too, will not argue, but nevertheless I don’t trust or trust the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry, it is still not our Defense Ministry. And the Russian is my business.

[Lekxnumx]

Don’t trust my Az-mo Defense Ministry, they, too, often got caught in lies.
Nowhere else do they lie like in war.

[vlad66]

Quote: Lek38

My advice to you do not trust the Az-mo MO they also often got caught lying

Thanks Colleague I will not, I have a native Russian MO.

Quote: Lek38

Nowhere else do they lie like in war

This is exactly

[tank64rus]

Simple informational reception. First, a source who wished to remain anonymous, and then they write what they need ... That's all.

[Bronevick]

Su-24 pictured in the scrap

[Falcond]

The principle of MO is to speak only the truth, nothing but the truth, exclusively the truth ... but not all!
All sorts of RBC, Rains they also tell the truth, only so many things stick to it that sometimes the ears turn into a tube and your eyes hurt ...
So the truth can not be found!

[RUSS]

Quote: FalconD

The principle of MO is to speak only the truth, nothing but the truth, exclusively the truth ... but not all!

This is the reason since - “the information vacuum is filled with shit”!

[internal enemy]

RBC writes everything correctly, there is no smoke without fire, and it will not be possible to hide aircraft losses for a long time.

[Falcond]

Our Ministry of Defense, judging by the statements of the official representative Konashenkov, will find out about everything from the news ..., and often not at all))

[RUSS]

Quote: FalconD

Our Ministry of Defense, judging by the statements of the official representative Konashenkov, will find out about everything from the news ..., and often not at all))

I recalled how our MO told us and showed how the Ukrainian SU-25 shot down a Malaysian Boeing over the Donbass, and now it turns out that the Boeing was shot down by Ukrainians from the “beech”

[NN52]

Falcond

Why write this?
Are you a troll too?
Do you get info from your sources?
And disgrace our MO.

[Falcond]

I wonder who shame whom, when MO screenshots from a game about zombies are presented as evidence?!? When the occupied territory of Syria, according to the chairman of the Russian geographical society, is three times more than all of Syria ??? Etc. etc.

I try to scoop Old from everywhere .., then compare and analyze!

And I love and respect Moscow Region ... and who am I to at least somehow discredit such a ministry! ...

[Silver fox_2]

Quote: DenZ

In economics, I agree a lot of interesting things.

Conclusions of economists from the Gaidar Institute on RBC))) The point of view of the Bretton Woods system)) Chernukha)))

[Hurricane70]

Quote: Dimontius

For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there).

Here you have the "attack of drones" and shown! Get gossip from RBC’s “unnamed sources” ...
To each his own!

[Denis Obukhov]

It is time to introduce censorship in the media, to drastically reduce the number of print and Internet publications, radio and television channels, disperse all this immoderately proliferated alkalis and paper fraternities and introduce criminal liability for journalists and editors for publishing rumors, gossip and links to "sources"

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

It is time to introduce censorship in the media, to drastically reduce the number of print and Internet publications, radio and television channels, disperse all this immoderately proliferated alkalis and paper fraternities and introduce criminal liability for journalists and editors for publishing rumors, gossip and links to "sources"

You know, I’ve wandered around the Internet and stumbled upon the site with an article “The Ministry of Defense has responded to new media data about the attack on the Khmeimim base” and in the comments SZ user posted an exact copy of your comment an hour ago, the punctuation was saved. Even the screen did: http://prntscr.com/ie8wpn is it you? just wondering.

[Town Hall]

There are coincidences

[turcom]

Well, to hell with MO to enter into some sort of controversy with some kind of channel. Is someone watching this channel? I stopped watching this channel when Nemtsov’s daughter began to interview endlessly some hairy pigtails, like an expert on all matters

[BAI]

Using only a convenient source of information for yourself, and completely denying inconvenient ones, is at least stupid.

[seregatara1969]

why did he shandarah so? Well, in the photo which

[Lexus]

Correspondence controversy between the RF Ministry of Defense and RBC over when and with what attack the Khmeimim air base

Correspondence, because both of them - "nonsense with experience." Truth means somewhere in between.

[tezey]

Again, some unnamed sources from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff. It was already. RBC is not original. After the shelling on December 31, some unnamed military and diplomatic sources reported terrible casualties in aircraft. Our defense ministry behaves, in my opinion, as an offended institute. It’s necessary not to justify oneself to write rebuttals, but to file a lawsuit publicly for publishing false messages defaming the army and creating a false picture of what is happening. This will reduce the desire to disseminate fake information.

[voyaka uh]

I didn’t understand: at first I was beaten by mortars on New Year’s, and a day later they launched 8 drones?
And whom did the special forces destroy: mortars or drones?

[antiamerican]

who will be sane to believe minobr?

RBC may be misinterpreted - but they have much more trust

[Monster_Fat]

I like comments like: “I don’t listen to them, they are opposition, bulk, etc.”, or “it’s time to introduce censorship”, etc. People deliberately dismiss opponents who have a different view of issues that concern everyone and close themselves in their own world, considering it the only correct one. And I, now, don’t disdain to read everyone in order to receive information from all walks of life and only when I read polar and neutral opinions, I begin to understand something (and even in a first approximation) on the existing issue. It is impossible to formulate a more or more correct opinion, relying on only one side of the coverage of the issue ... It’s like in philosophy, only “darkness” allows us to understand that there is “light”, if there weren’t darkness, we would not have understood that such a "light".

[LeonidL]

Rat wound up in the cellars of the MO?

[LeonidL]

Well, it is understandable why RBC, Echo and Rain want it, really want it ... it is not clear why suddenly such a desire in normal people suddenly appeared? The fake is fake and has already been proven, disassembled and analyzed. It's like 213 Wagner tanks ... it turned out to be one and a sudden place and not Russian, not Wagnerian, but Syrian.

[Archivist Vasya]

If the planes were really destroyed, and not just damaged, then I think in a couple of years we will find out, and maybe someone will let it slip earlier.

[sib.ataman]

RBC has long turned into a yellow press. Should I take his frivolous publications seriously?