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When and with what attacked the Khmeimim airbase: correspondence dispute between the Russian Defense Ministry and RBC

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The Russian Ministry of Defense publishes a statement alleging that there was no drones attack on the Hmeimim airbase in Syria on the night of January 1 of 2018. We are talking about the reaction of the main defense department to the publication of RBC material, in which the previously declared mortar shelling of the airbase was already presented as an “attack of drones”, with the January 1 being held.


TASS cites a ministry statement:
In today's article RBC “Attack with mortars on the base Khmeimim was attacked by drones” does not correspond to the reality of everything: from the date and time of the shelling to the method of attack and its actual consequences. We want to emphasize that 1 January 2018, the airbase worked as planned. There were no shelling, raids or other incidents.


RBC in his material he referred to a certain unnamed source and literally reported the following:
New Year's attack on the Russian airbase Khmeimim (Syrian province of Latakia) was carried out using unmanned aerial vehicles, not mortars, told a RBC source in the Defense Ministry and confirmed a source close to the General Staff.


When and with what attacked the Khmeimim airbase: correspondence dispute between the Russian Defense Ministry and RBC


The Defense Ministry claims that the attack was carried out on the evening of December 31 using exactly the mortars that were used by the sabotage group of terrorists. Then two Russian servicemen died.

In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.
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  1. Thrall
    Thrall 13 February 2018 18: 43
    +35
    For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 13 February 2018 18: 47
      +10
      In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

      The one who has problems with money is the source. All of this is muddy. sad
      1. Scoun
        Scoun 13 February 2018 19: 45
        +6
        Quote: vlad66
        In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

        The one who has problems with money is the source. All of this is muddy. sad

        She ... these are those who have problems with conscience and the salary of employees of the Ministry of Defense is sufficient for food.
        And I also ignore RBC and the type of ramblers for about 10 years.
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 13 February 2018 20: 04
          +10
          Quote: Scoun
          She ... these are those who have problems with conscience and the salary of employees of the Ministry of Defense is sufficient for food.

          You correctly noticed the colleague’s conscience, because there isn’t much money, the more the higher the requests. hi Rђ RІRѕS, source close to it smells very bad. It could be the general from the general staff and the janitor Uncle Vasya. hi
          1. Shurik70
            Shurik70 13 February 2018 22: 02
            +6
            What does it have to do with it? Ordinary distortion of facts.
            One says: "The drones attack was on January 5-6, and the first was a mortar attack."
            Another: "there was no attack by drones on January 1st."
            Third: "Moscow Region denies attack by drones of the Russian base."

            fool
        2. smart ass
          smart ass 13 February 2018 20: 36
          +7
          But in fact, we all live in an information vacuum, what they want and will pour into our ears that rbc that my russia 24
          1. BAI
            BAI 13 February 2018 20: 44
            +3
            Absolutely right.
          2. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 21: 28
            +4
            Quote: Clever man
            But in fact, we all live in an information vacuum, what they want and will pour into our ears that rbc that my russia 24

            advise how not to live for all of us in a "vacuum" ??? wassat wassat By the way, are we all who ??? what what
          3. Flyer_64
            Flyer_64 13 February 2018 21: 39
            +1
            If you live in an infovacuum, then you should change the country. Noise rises because the choices, fly in the ointment. And Moscow Oblast helps them even a little.
          4. Ascetic
            Ascetic 13 February 2018 22: 21
            +6
            Quote: Clever man
            But in fact, we all live in an information vacuum, what they want and will pour into our ears that rbc that my russia 24


            We live on the background of informational noise and a waterfall of fakes and stuffing flavored with propaganda, but not in the infovacuum, in which the info war loses all meaning. Another thing is that it is quite difficult to isolate objective information in this muddy stream, this is true
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 21: 27
        +3
        Quote: vlad66
        The one who has problems with money is the source.

        or maybe there was no source ??? what what if I say that I am a three-star general, I have got shoulder straps lol lol Well this does not mean that everything is so !!! wink yes laughing laughing laughing
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 13 February 2018 21: 34
          +7
          Quote: Nikolai the Greek
          or maybe there was no source ???

          Nicholas hi I will not repeat myself
          Quote: vlad66
          But the source close to smells very bad. It could be the general from the General Staff and the janitor Uncle Vasya.

          hi
          1. Nikolai Grek
            Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 22: 00
            +1
            Quote: vlad66
            Nikolay I won’t repeat myself

            drinks drinks drinks hi smile
            Quote: vlad66
            But the source close to smells very bad. It could be the general from the General Staff and the janitor Uncle Vasya.

            or maybe there is no source !!! request request
      3. Yuyuka
        Yuyuka 13 February 2018 23: 50
        0
        Quote: vlad66
        In any case, the RF Ministry of Defense should conduct its own verification. At least on the subject of what these sources are for RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff.

        The one who has problems with money is the source. All of this is muddy. sad


        call them or something ... winked I am also a representative ... IN and the title is wassat I wonder how much dollars are being spent? what
    2. Dimontius
      Dimontius 13 February 2018 18: 50
      +11
      For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

      And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there).
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 13 February 2018 19: 12
        +4
        Quote: Dimontius
        And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels

        In economics, I agree a lot of interesting things. But such stupid stuffing like this also happens. From this we can conclude (a somewhat far-fetched truth) that they do not speak the full truth about the economy, but pour “chernukha”.
      2. Andrey K
        Andrey K 13 February 2018 19: 13
        +15
        Quote: Dimontius
        ... And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there) ...

        Do not tell a colleague!
        In my opinion, RBC is a peddler of the dirt that Rain did not blow. The only difference is that Dozhd directly processes State Depot cookies without hesitation, and RBC teaches its information as obtained from "reliable sources." Although, that in the first case, that in the second, the source is still the same stinking barrel of slops.
        Why does the Defense Ministry in general engage in refutations of RBC's insinuations - this is exactly what they sought. Free advertising.
        1. Dimontius
          Dimontius 13 February 2018 19: 52
          +8
          I don’t want to be a lawyer for RBC, but I did not see the “dirt” as you said, which is directly noticeable. But what I often saw was that RBC was the first to report the news, and then the federal channels.
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 13 February 2018 20: 12
            +11
            Quote: Dimontius
            ... I do not want to be a lawyer for RBC, but I did not see the “dirt” as you said, which is directly noticeable. But what I often saw was that RBC was the first to report the news, and then the federal channels ...

            Colleague. A lie, it is in any form a lie.
            "Rain", "Echo Matzah" - they lie half-heartedly, they have their own audience of adherents.
            RBC also lies, but lies more accurately - it takes some kind of a tiny fact, which is not disputed by anyone at all. To this fact, RBC winds up a huge lie, referring to "reliable sources" for more convincing reasons.
            As a result: we remove aside the fact of the shelling of “Khmeimim” - a lot of dirt remains.
            You probably read the article poorly:
            ... mortar shelling of the air base was already presented as a "drone attack", moreover, which took place on January 1 ...

            RBC lies: both in terms of shelling time and in the weapons used.
            And tomorrow, "Echo Matzi", will refer to the information "Rain", as a fait accompli. The day after tomorrow, the whole trio will argue about the "daily shelling" of "Khmeimim" and the inability of the Defense Ministry to defend not only Syria, but even the personnel and the military, of its own air base.
            That's all the technology.
            In vain, the editors of these sewer drains, to the embassy in the North American impasse, go to the planning meeting.
            Read the press hi
            1. Dimontius
              Dimontius 13 February 2018 20: 51
              +3
              Yes, since 2014, the head has been torn from this press. I read it daily, recently I’ve thought about quitting it all ... otherwise, the news flows are all in a negative light. I am aware of the tricks that you say, they use the Western press recklessly. And already from it their followers draw from rain and echo, and all Russophobes from Russian television shows, "ala: greg, michael, isaev, nadezhdin." But the inflating of an elephant fly on RBC, I did not notice again. What exactly happens is the facts about import substitution, the lack of purchasing power of the population and artificial growth in the economy, etc. I am inclined to believe that you are simply biased towards this resource. Because he’s the only one who is trying to present at least a little more critical assessment of the situation than the Fed. channels that are often unpleasant to listen to, of course, but denying is stupid. I don’t even know if we have any other channel, which is not yours, not ours .... tell me, maybe I’ll watch it. PS I'm not a lawyer for RBC IMHO wassat
              1. not main
                not main 13 February 2018 21: 35
                +3
                Do not read any! (Dog's heart)
              2. Andrey K
                Andrey K 13 February 2018 23: 08
                +5
                Quote: Dimontius
                ... yes, since 2014, the head has been torn from this press ...
                ... tell me, maybe I'll see it. PS I'm not a lawyer for RBC IMHO ...

                You understand me perfectly, except for a biased attitude towards RBC. To me in parallel, whom and how they spud. They have their own audience.
                Prompt on viewing, here, too, as they say - the taste and color.
                Some time ago, I began to periodically browse Russia Today. Impression - even very nothing. At least, there is an understanding that ours (and not only) work, with a view to foreigners. The channel is state, but without fanatical liberalism and ur-patriotism. I like it. Quality news, quality analytics.
                Look, maybe you will like this channel more hi
                1. Dimontius
                  Dimontius 13 February 2018 23: 44
                  +1
                  I watched Cross Talk at one time, there is still a leading short one with glasses. He stopped, because they constantly drowned for ours. I have nothing against it, but when the leading critics without thinking, and all the guests without exception, it becomes somehow uninteresting. Gave up. Honestly, I generally ignore all analytical articles / programs, and leave only the factual, i.e. news. For over the years, so many analysts have poured into the head that the analyst himself is already without them) aaaa ... yes .. here's another type of American Alex Jones, a cool dude, he says .... but quickly gets bored because he conveyed his position, and repeats it from time to time. boring tovarischi))
      3. The black
        The black 13 February 2018 19: 15
        +4
        For me, honest journalism is nonsense. Honest journalists (if they still remain) can be entered in the red book. Who pays - he orders the music.
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 13 February 2018 19: 52
          +3
          Quote: Black
          For me, honest journalism is nonsense. Honest journalists (if they still remain) can be entered in the red book. Who pays - he orders the music.

          V.I. Lenin described the principle of partisanship in literature as early as 1905 in the article "PARTY ORGANIZATION AND PARTY LITERATURE". It is also formulated as "who pays, he orders the music." Still relevant.
      4. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 13 February 2018 21: 29
        +2
        Quote: Dimontius
        And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there).

        but there you can read the opposite articles ... on the same economy ... in one article everything is sad, in the other - everything is very good !!! request laughing laughing laughing
    3. RUSS
      RUSS 13 February 2018 18: 57
      +2
      Quote: Thrall
      For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

      In vain, for example, on the same "Rain" you hate, there are worthy reports and analysts, and now respected people come to visit them, for example, Karen Shakhnazarov and the Communist Party deputy Sergei Shargunov recently gave them an interview.
      1. vlad66
        vlad66 13 February 2018 19: 00
        +8
        Quote: RUSS
        for example on the same "Hatred" you hate

        God forbid Russia from such
        worthy reporting and analytics,
        1. RUSS
          RUSS 13 February 2018 19: 10
          +4
          Quote: vlad66
          Quote: RUSS
          for example on the same "Hatred" you hate

          God forbid Russia from such
          worthy reporting and analytics,

          To each his own, or “his boys” Solovyov with Kiselev or “outcasts” of RBC, Rain, etc.
          1. vlad66
            vlad66 13 February 2018 19: 31
            +10
            Quote: RUSS
            To each his own, or “his boys” Solovyov with Kiselev or “outcasts” of RBC, Rain

            You know, you’ll probably be surprised, for four years now, as I don’t look at these garbage dumps. With the Solovyovs, Kiselevs, Sobchaks and Venediktovs, they’ve somehow been sick more expensive and have been ill with politics for a long time. . laughing laughing And all these Rains, RBC and others will change so that white can not be distinguished from black. yes
            1. RUSS
              RUSS 13 February 2018 19: 46
              +2
              Quote: vlad66
              Quote: RUSS
              To each his own, or “his boys” Solovyov with Kiselev or “outcasts” of RBC, Rain

              You know, you’ll probably be surprised, for four years now, as I don’t look at these garbage dumps. With the Solovyovs, Kiselevs, Sobchaks and Venediktovs, they’ve somehow been sick more expensive and have been ill with politics for a long time. . laughing laughing And all these Rains, RBC and others will change so that white can not be distinguished from black. yes

              good
            2. Svarog51
              Svarog51 14 February 2018 05: 41
              +1
              Volodya, welcome hi
              So over there Soviet sights I watch on TV and I hang out at VO.

              You are here just recently MIKHAN cartoon ate about a hunting dog. Here is another cartoon from the same creators.
      2. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 13 February 2018 20: 04
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        for example, on the same “Hatred” you hate, there is a worthy reporting and analytics

        Mixed with the truth and lying for the truth will come down.
      3. not main
        not main 13 February 2018 21: 38
        +1
        Quote: RUSS

        1
        RUSS Today, 18:57 ↑ New
        Quote: Thrall
        For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

        In vain, for example, on the same "Rain" you hate, there are worthy reports and analysts, and now respected people come to visit them, for example, Karen Shakhnazarov and the Communist Party deputy Sergei Shargunov recently gave them an interview.

        Question dear by whom?
    4. Serg koma
      Serg koma 13 February 2018 19: 16
      +5
      The coolest excuse of all the bad smelling media is "unnamed source". You can compose anything under such a source.
    5. bane's jacket
      bane's jacket 13 February 2018 19: 50
      +5
      Quote: Thrall
      For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

      Just wondering, what are you watching and reading? Maybe RIA-Novosti, NTV, Dmitry Kiselyov?
      1. not main
        not main 13 February 2018 21: 44
        +1
        Quote: bane's jacket
        Just wondering, what are you watching and reading? Maybe RIA-Novosti, NTV, Dmitry Kiselyov?

        And VGTRK, and much more! But not what you want a jacket.
        1. bane's jacket
          bane's jacket 13 February 2018 22: 12
          0
          Quote: non-primary
          Quote: bane's jacket
          Just wondering, what are you watching and reading? Maybe RIA-Novosti, NTV, Dmitry Kiselyov?

          And VGTRK, and much more! But not what you want a jacket.

          Can you watch this live? wink
    6. Falcond
      Falcond 13 February 2018 23: 22
      0
      What are you reading?
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  3. Egorovich
    Egorovich 13 February 2018 18: 59
    +4
    These sources, located in the Ministry of Defense and in the General Staff, and merging information from RBC, must be caught and secured a “worthy” place on the bunk. But RBC has long been necessary to close, as unnecessary. am
    1. Don
      Don 13 February 2018 19: 07
      +5
      Quote: Egorovich
      These sources, located in the Ministry of Defense and in the General Staff, and merging information from RBC, must be caught and secured a “worthy” place on the bunk. But RBC has long been necessary to close, as unnecessary. am

      Then, together with RBC and the Echo of Moscow, you need to close the "balers" like you, in fairness. Let the people rest from the extremes.
      1. Egorovich
        Egorovich 13 February 2018 19: 20
        +5
        And RBC, and the Echo of Moscow, and such as Donskoy - all in a slop pit. There they belong. am
        1. bane's jacket
          bane's jacket 13 February 2018 19: 46
          +2
          Quote: Egorovich
          And RBC, and the Echo of Moscow, and such as Donskoy - all in a slop pit. There they belong. am

          With guests? repeat


          1. RUSS
            RUSS 13 February 2018 21: 21
            0
            Quote: bane's jacket
            With guests?

            Now the leftist Maxim Shevchenko is working on the “echo of Moscow”, where he also had a snack with Svanidze.
        2. Don
          Don 13 February 2018 22: 18
          +1
          Quote: Egorovich
          And RBC, and the Echo of Moscow, and such as Donskoy - all in a slop pit. There they belong. am

          Yes, the fact of the matter is that the slop pit is now free, and all those with whom it should be filled are in power and robbing the people or are its supporters. PS: sometimes you have to fall in answers to your toilet level of communication, because another don't understand negative
    2. Kent0001
      Kent0001 13 February 2018 19: 17
      +1
      Are there these sources? Or is it an RBC advertising move? and nothing more.
    3. Falcond
      Falcond 13 February 2018 19: 49
      +1
      If you catch them, then where will the Russian land come from?
      Where do rumors come from to write comments here angry about Wagners, drones attacks .. and so on.
      And you have advice: watch the first channel and Konashenkov .. they will definitely tell the whole truth!)
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 13 February 2018 18: 59
    +4
    At least on the subject of what are these sources at RBC, who call themselves representatives of the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff
    These sources are called finger suction. And the goal is to raise the wave of "everything is bad" and "everything is not so clear"
  5. Genry
    Genry 13 February 2018 19: 00
    +2
    Soon we will begin to discuss Aunt Mani’s hassle with Baba Ira.
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 February 2018 19: 00
    +4
    When they arrived, some Ministry of Defense indicates to the Ministry of Defense what is really happening at our military bases! fool It's time to start asking the press for their words! And to answer with huge fines, and a license, for a lie!
    1. Antidote
      Antidote 14 February 2018 08: 04
      +2
      MO, of course, like an angel, either screenshots from a toy, then Amer’s turntables from Afghanistan will give out for their own. Yes, yes, believe everything without a doubt.
  7. faiver
    faiver 13 February 2018 19: 00
    +2
    we don’t know the truth of one fig, but we actually are not supposed to know it ...
  8. Kent0001
    Kent0001 13 February 2018 19: 15
    +2
    Believe RBC-do not respect yourself. What are you talking about? Although our Ministry of Defense also messed up, so many of him also lack faith ... well, not 100 percent.
  9. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 13 February 2018 19: 15
    +2
    That's it everywhere! It's unclear. This is always the case with the current government in Russia; no one is responsible for anything.
  10. Lekxnumx
    Lekxnumx 13 February 2018 19: 29
    +1
    Why now? Everything ingenious is simple, there was no evidence of video materials in the world media and on the network to prove. The Russian Federation waited, waited, and they said there was nothing.
    How else can one explain such a late reaction?
    If there was no attack, check all the cases in a week you go out and say there wasn’t.
    I don’t want to approve, but still I don’t trust the MoD. But I don’t trust any RBC broads either.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 13 February 2018 19: 47
      +6
      Quote: Lek38
      I don’t want to approve, but still I don’t trust the MO.

      I, too, will not argue, but nevertheless I don’t trust or trust the Azerbaijani Defense Ministry, it is still not our Defense Ministry. And the Russian is my business. laughing
      1. Lekxnumx
        Lekxnumx 13 February 2018 19: 54
        +2
        Don’t trust my Az-mo Defense Ministry, they, too, often got caught in lies.
        Nowhere else do they lie like in war.
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 13 February 2018 20: 07
          +6
          Quote: Lek38
          My advice to you do not trust the Az-mo MO they also often got caught lying

          Thanks Colleague hi laughing I will not, I have a native Russian MO.
          Quote: Lek38
          Nowhere else do they lie like in war

          This is exactly hi
  11. tank64rus
    tank64rus 13 February 2018 19: 40
    +1
    Simple informational reception. First, a source who wished to remain anonymous, and then they write what they need ... That's all.
  12. Bronevick
    Bronevick 13 February 2018 19: 41
    +1
    Su-24 pictured in the scrap
  13. Falcond
    Falcond 13 February 2018 19: 44
    +2
    The principle of MO is to speak only the truth, nothing but the truth, exclusively the truth ... but not all!
    All sorts of RBC, Rains they also tell the truth, only so many things stick to it that sometimes the ears turn into a tube and your eyes hurt ...
    So the truth can not be found!
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 13 February 2018 19: 49
      +1
      Quote: FalconD
      The principle of MO is to speak only the truth, nothing but the truth, exclusively the truth ... but not all!

      This is the reason since - “the information vacuum is filled with shit”!
  14. internal enemy
    internal enemy 13 February 2018 19: 48
    +3
    RBC writes everything correctly, there is no smoke without fire, and it will not be possible to hide aircraft losses for a long time.
  15. Falcond
    Falcond 13 February 2018 19: 52
    +4
    Our Ministry of Defense, judging by the statements of the official representative Konashenkov, will find out about everything from the news ..., and often not at all))
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 13 February 2018 21: 25
      +1
      Quote: FalconD
      Our Ministry of Defense, judging by the statements of the official representative Konashenkov, will find out about everything from the news ..., and often not at all))

      I recalled how our MO told us and showed how the Ukrainian SU-25 shot down a Malaysian Boeing over the Donbass, and now it turns out that the Boeing was shot down by Ukrainians from the “beech” laughing
    2. NN52
      NN52 13 February 2018 21: 55
      +9
      Falcond

      Why write this?
      Are you a troll too?
      Do you get info from your sources?
      And disgrace our MO.
      1. Falcond
        Falcond 13 February 2018 23: 17
        +3
        I wonder who shame whom, when MO screenshots from a game about zombies are presented as evidence?!? When the occupied territory of Syria, according to the chairman of the Russian geographical society, is three times more than all of Syria ??? Etc. etc.

        I try to scoop Old from everywhere .., then compare and analyze!

        And I love and respect Moscow Region ... and who am I to at least somehow discredit such a ministry! ...
  16. Silver fox_2
    Silver fox_2 13 February 2018 19: 58
    0
    Quote: DenZ
    In economics, I agree a lot of interesting things.

    Conclusions of economists from the Gaidar Institute on RBC))) The point of view of the Bretton Woods system)) Chernukha)))
  17. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 13 February 2018 20: 19
    +1
    Quote: Dimontius
    For five years, I stopped watching and reading RBC. And I do not regret it.

    And in vain, there is much that will not be shown on federal channels, not to mention the situation in the economy. And there is no crap that pours in the rain with an echo (I don’t look, but I know what's there).

    Here you have the "attack of drones" and shown! Get gossip from RBC’s “unnamed sources” ...
    To each his own!
  18. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 13 February 2018 20: 19
    0
    It is time to introduce censorship in the media, to drastically reduce the number of print and Internet publications, radio and television channels, disperse all this immoderately proliferated alkalis and paper fraternities and introduce criminal liability for journalists and editors for publishing rumors, gossip and links to "sources"
    1. Aleksandr21
      Aleksandr21 13 February 2018 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      It is time to introduce censorship in the media, to drastically reduce the number of print and Internet publications, radio and television channels, disperse all this immoderately proliferated alkalis and paper fraternities and introduce criminal liability for journalists and editors for publishing rumors, gossip and links to "sources"


      You know, I’ve wandered around the Internet and stumbled upon the site with an article “The Ministry of Defense has responded to new media data about the attack on the Khmeimim base” and in the comments SZ user posted an exact copy of your comment an hour ago, the punctuation was saved. Even the screen did: http://prntscr.com/ie8wpn is it you? just wondering.
      1. Town Hall
        Town Hall 13 February 2018 21: 10
        +1
        There are coincidences
  19. turcom
    turcom 13 February 2018 20: 46
    +1
    Well, to hell with MO to enter into some sort of controversy with some kind of channel. Is someone watching this channel? I stopped watching this channel when Nemtsov’s daughter began to interview endlessly some hairy pigtails, like an expert on all matters
  20. BAI
    BAI 13 February 2018 20: 52
    +3
    Using only a convenient source of information for yourself, and completely denying inconvenient ones, is at least stupid.
  21. seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 13 February 2018 20: 55
    0
    why did he shandarah so? Well, in the photo which
  22. Lexus
    Lexus 13 February 2018 21: 15
    0
    Correspondence controversy between the RF Ministry of Defense and RBC over when and with what attack the Khmeimim air base

    Correspondence, because both of them - "nonsense with experience." Truth means somewhere in between.
  23. tezey
    tezey 13 February 2018 23: 53
    0
    Again, some unnamed sources from the Ministry of Defense and the General Staff. It was already. RBC is not original. After the shelling on December 31, some unnamed military and diplomatic sources reported terrible casualties in aircraft. Our defense ministry behaves, in my opinion, as an offended institute. It’s necessary not to justify oneself to write rebuttals, but to file a lawsuit publicly for publishing false messages defaming the army and creating a false picture of what is happening. This will reduce the desire to disseminate fake information.
  24. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 14 February 2018 00: 30
    +2
    I didn’t understand: at first I was beaten by mortars on New Year’s, and a day later they launched 8 drones?
    And whom did the special forces destroy: mortars or drones? belay
  25. antiamerikan
    antiamerikan 14 February 2018 01: 10
    +1
    who will be sane to believe minobr?

    RBC may be misinterpreted - but they have much more trust
  26. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 14 February 2018 05: 17
    +4
    I like comments like: “I don’t listen to them, they are opposition, bulk, etc.”, or “it’s time to introduce censorship”, etc. People deliberately dismiss opponents who have a different view of issues that concern everyone and close themselves in their own world, considering it the only correct one. And I, now, don’t disdain to read everyone in order to receive information from all walks of life and only when I read polar and neutral opinions, I begin to understand something (and even in a first approximation) on the existing issue. It is impossible to formulate a more or more correct opinion, relying on only one side of the coverage of the issue ... It’s like in philosophy, only “darkness” allows us to understand that there is “light”, if there weren’t darkness, we would not have understood that such a "light".
  27. LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 February 2018 05: 57
    0
    Rat wound up in the cellars of the MO?
  28. LeonidL
    LeonidL 14 February 2018 06: 00
    0
    Well, it is understandable why RBC, Echo and Rain want it, really want it ... it is not clear why suddenly such a desire in normal people suddenly appeared? The fake is fake and has already been proven, disassembled and analyzed. It's like 213 Wagner tanks ... it turned out to be one and a sudden place and not Russian, not Wagnerian, but Syrian.
  29. Archivist Vasya
    Archivist Vasya 14 February 2018 11: 40
    0
    If the planes were really destroyed, and not just damaged, then I think in a couple of years we will find out, and maybe someone will let it slip earlier.
  30. sib.ataman
    sib.ataman 15 February 2018 07: 28
    +1
    RBC has long turned into a yellow press. Should I take his frivolous publications seriously?