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United States decided on the timing of the conquest of the moon

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In the new draft budget for 2019 fiscal year, published by the administration of US President Donald Trump, the return of astronauts to the moon is called one of the "space priorities" of the state, writes The Verge.


United States decided on the timing of the conquest of the moon


According to the published document, America plans to again land a man on the moon "in the middle of 2020-x." More accurate dates are not specified. At the same time, the country allocates more and more funds for the development of new equipment, which will be necessary for landing on Earth satellite.

The New York Times notes that in 2019, NASA funding will increase by 370 million dollars and reach 19,9 billion dollars. At the same time in subsequent years, it will be reduced to 19,6 billion and will remain unchanged until the 2023 year. The publication is confident that with such funding, the astronauts' flight to the moon "will not take place until Trump leaves the White House, even if he wins the next election."

In December 2017, Trump signed a directive on space policy to send a man to the Moon and Mars.

This is the first step in the return of American astronauts to the moon for the first time since 1972. This time we will not only set our flag and leave our traces - we will create the basis for a possible mission to Mars and, possibly, someday, to many other worlds
- declared Trump
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  1. 210ox
    210ox 13 February 2018 13: 18
    +30
    Complete the pavilion, and good luck!
    1. Monos
      Monos 13 February 2018 13: 20
      +25
      Greetings Dmitry hi
      Something they rush about: either to Mars, then to the Moon. They would have shot immediately the landing on the Sun. smile
      1. Vend
        Vend 13 February 2018 13: 24
        +10
        Quote: Monos
        Greetings Dmitry hi
        Something they rush about: either to Mars, then to the Moon. They would have shot immediately the landing on the Sun. smile

        So prices are evidently jumping on the construction of pavilions. laughing
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 13 February 2018 13: 29
          +11
          There is no announcement at Kinopoisk yet smile
        2. 1536
          1536 13 February 2018 13: 31
          +4
          Profitable to shoot in Eastern Europe. K / s them. A. Dovzhenko is idle.
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 13 February 2018 13: 34
            +10
            Quote: 1536
            ... profitable to shoot in Eastern Europe. K / s them. A. Dovzhenko is idle ...

            There, and without a film studio - a continuous lunar landscape.
            With APU "avatars" laughing
          2. 210ox
            210ox 13 February 2018 13: 45
            +1
            There are only horrors and disaster films ..
            Quote: 1536
            Profitable to shoot in Eastern Europe. K / s them. A. Dovzhenko is idle.
        3. The black
          The black 13 February 2018 13: 40
          +3
          Ukro-Sumerians have long claimed the moon, Mars and Venus. They also have documents in the office of Vyatrovich wassat
        4. vlad66
          vlad66 13 February 2018 13: 45
          +8
          According to a published document, America plans to again land a man on the moon "in the mid-2020s"

          By that time, the pavilion will be completed and the new Oliver Stone will be found and the corresponding work with computer graphics will be carried out. yes
      2. Giant thought
        Giant thought 13 February 2018 13: 26
        +1
        As they say: dreams, dreams, where is your sweetness, dreams are gone - there is muck.
      3. figwam
        figwam 13 February 2018 13: 27
        +10
        the return of astronauts to the moon is called one of the "space priorities" of the state, writes The Verge.

        Yeah, returning to where you have never been. And our president knows this, but they don’t.
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 13 February 2018 13: 38
          +2
          "the car will fly ..."
          rocket from C700 - medium range (Lunar, and Mars?) space.
          a lot of work for Almaz-Antey
        2. Simargl
          Simargl 13 February 2018 13: 40
          +3
          Quote: figvam
          And our president knows this, but they don’t.
          For starters, he spoke in the context of a flight to Mars.
          Well, the president - he is such a biologist ... and also a specialist in space radiation ...
          1. figwam
            figwam 13 February 2018 13: 46
            +3
            Simargl

            What difference does it make, Moon or Mars, Van Allen’s radiation belt, in any case, go through, there a living cell turns into a dead one.
            1. Tektor
              Tektor 13 February 2018 14: 14
              +1
              There is a trajectory traversing the van Alen radiation belts: with an inclination of the orbit of about 63 degrees:
            2. Simargl
              Simargl 13 February 2018 17: 15
              +1
              Quote: figvam
              in any case, Van Allen’s radiation belt passes, here a living cell turns into a dead one
              What the heresy? Did Van Allen say that? Well, do not go into outer space for a long time, do not get a dose!
              And the spacecraft’s corps will hold back - it’s proved, at least, by the turtles from Probe 5, which frightened the rescuers who were catching the descent vehicle (hollowed at the door, shouted “let us out.” Drosophila had already died and couldn’t confirm ...
              1. figwam
                figwam 13 February 2018 19: 45
                +2
                Simargl

                And the fact that the turtles after returning will die in a couple of days, and the monkey in 10, it’s like little things.
              2. ALLxANDr
                ALLxANDr 13 February 2018 21: 42
                +1
                This research has shown. Van Allen was just the first. Moreover, radiation belts are the lesser of troubles. Solar flares are guaranteed to finish off anyone who has unsuccessfully chosen the time for space flight. Radiation reaches the orbit of the earth in a matter of minutes. During this time, the spacecraft does not have time to hide and any ship turns into a microwave. Predict outbreaks not in the 72nd, not in our time have not yet learned.
      4. SpaceCom
        SpaceCom 13 February 2018 13: 32
        +5
        No, it's hot in the sun! You can fly there only at night. And at night it’s dark - you have to turn on artificial lighting. This is an additional cost for electricity, and the budget will be reduced ... It may not be enough however! laughing
        1. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 13 February 2018 15: 59
          +1
          Reminded:
          Brezhnev called a group of astronauts.
          - Comrades! The Americans landed on the moon. We consulted and decided that you will fly to the Sun!
          - So we’ll burn, Leonid Ilyich!
          “Do not be afraid, comrades, the party has thought of everything.” You will fly at night.
      5. Major Yurik
        Major Yurik 13 February 2018 13: 43
        +2
        In how, see the moon with democracy is a mess, here are the Yankees and stretch to carry her darling! And who on the moon against will be the sanctions for the full program !!!!! sad
        1. igordok
          igordok 13 February 2018 14: 27
          0
          Quote: Major Yurik
          In how to see a mess on the moon with democracy,

          Democracy, non-democracy, what's the difference, the main thing is whether there is oil.
      6. Rurikovich
        Rurikovich 13 February 2018 18: 38
        0
        Quote: Monos
        They would have shot immediately the landing on the Sun.

        It is advisable to spend the night laughing Because if they "fly" in the afternoon, they will get scorched laughing laughing People, come on, not fools, understand that it’s hot in the afternoon what
    2. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 13 February 2018 13: 21
      +9
      When trump on the mountain whistles.
    3. Father of a Soldier
      Father of a Soldier 13 February 2018 13: 21
      +3
      Too costly economic component, we have to go the other way (s), send unmanned automatic stations, take the same Helium-3, and not cut it on motorbikes along the moonlit sand.
    4. nik-karata
      nik-karata 13 February 2018 13: 22
      +4
      Let's see if this blockbuster pays off for them))) good
    5. Petr1968
      Petr1968 13 February 2018 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Complete the pavilion, and good luck!

      They already have pavilions, but now it’s time for us to replenish our underwater squadron of satellites again, they haven’t drowned anything for a long time)
    6. Proxima
      Proxima 13 February 2018 16: 18
      +1
      Quote: 210ox
      Complete the pavilion, and good luck!

      No jokes, but for the Americans to re-land on the moon, you need to practically reanimate the Apollo program, starting with the F-1 engines (not to mention the Saturn 5) and right up to the lunar module) belay
      Well, okay, for big money you can do whatever you want. But where can I get so many, even the Americans ?! Everyone knows that the NASA budget immediately after the lunar epic fell 8 times and still remains at about the same level (naturally, adjusted for inflation) and it practically did not rise even when the Space Shuttle program was in full swing.
      Okay, I had to fight in the 60s. Then the prestige and the technogenic viability of all developed countries of the "free world" were at stake. And now, to whom is the US trying to prove something, moreover, for such a huge amount of money? fellow
      So, believe me, there will not be any landing on the moon in the 20s - this is an empty chatter of a person who is not in the subject fool
      1. Ased
        Ased 13 February 2018 17: 12
        +1
        I love news from the category: ... and by 2000 we will build communism,
        or ... in 4 years there will be a garden city ... They are easiest to write. Particularly with the words "expected", "probably" and "possible."
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 13 February 2018 17: 19
        +2
        Quote: Proxima
        No jokes, but for the Americans to re-land on the moon, you need to practically reanimate the Apollo program, starting with the F-1 engines (not to mention the Saturn 5) and right up to the lunar module)
        This is the lesser evil.
        Quote: Proxima
        And now, to whom is the US trying to prove something, moreover, for such a huge amount of money?
        That's just the point: they no longer need to land for landing. U.S. too.
        The moon needs master! And this is - station in lunar orbit and base on a surface.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 13 February 2018 21: 28
          0
          And also the ship Orion
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 13 February 2018 21: 30
            0
            Rather fly to the moon in this version
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 13 February 2018 21: 26
        0
        Everything is already at the completion stage, the super-heavy SLS rocket with a lifting capacity of 130 tons and RS 25 engines at the end of 2019 the first flight.
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 13 February 2018 13: 18
    +7
    ... the United States decided on the timing of the conquest of the moon ...

    Film:"The very Munchhausen":
    ... This means that from 8 to 10 in the morning he has planned a feat.
    Well? What do you say, burgomaster, about a man who is sent on a feat every day, just to serve? ...
    1. cniza
      cniza 13 February 2018 13: 25
      +2
      No, they are "cooler" than Baron Munchausen, he was still noble.
      1. bouncyhunter
        bouncyhunter 13 February 2018 13: 41
        +4
        United States decided on the timing of the conquest of the moon

        It seems that fresh harvest from Afghanistan came to Matrasia. wassat
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 13 February 2018 13: 43
          +3
          Quote: bouncyhunter
          It seems that fresh harvest from Afghanistan came to Matrasia.

          There Colombia is geographically closer and more coconut. wink
          1. Andrey K
            Andrey K 13 February 2018 14: 01
            +7
            Sling cutter hi
            ... There Colombia is geographically closer and coconut steep ..

            Given the legalized sale of weed, for medicinal purposes, geldings all recovered laughing
          2. Lexus
            Lexus 13 February 2018 16: 35
            +1
            Colombia is geographically closer and coconut

            Colleague hi
            They are not in a hurry from Afghanistan, apparently, for the same reason, unofficial. smile
  3. Sergey39
    Sergey39 13 February 2018 13: 20
    +7
    The conquest of the moon turns into a Hollywood series
    1. faridg7
      faridg7 13 February 2018 13: 30
      +3
      C'mon, maybe now all the same, they will not land in the pavilion, but on the Moon. Although ... As my political officer said, did-write, did not-write twice. While this will be the second time to write.
      1. Orionvit
        Orionvit 13 February 2018 14: 08
        +3
        For starters, let’s fly to the ISS at least. laughing
        1. faridg7
          faridg7 13 February 2018 14: 37
          +2
          They themselves simply can’t go down normally big, but you are talking about high
  4. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 13 February 2018 13: 22
    +5
    This time we will not only set our flag and leave our traces - we will create the basis for a possible mission to Mars and, possibly, someday, to many other worlds
    The usual loud PR, well, or just smoked and away we go .... winked
  5. Silinvv
    Silinvv 13 February 2018 13: 23
    +6
    Did I miss something? What does the phrase about returning to the moon mean? The Americans apparently bought a batch of fresh Afghan grass. When were they on the moon?
    Lunokhod was, the station was Luna, the Americans did not see.
    Rogues!
    1. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And 13 February 2018 21: 24
      0
      They need to get there earlier than others in order to throw up "evidence" of their first "stay" .. That the place of the alleged landing would not be the subject of study nearby (by other researchers).
  6. Baloo
    Baloo 13 February 2018 13: 24
    +5
    In December 2017, Trump signed a directive on space policy to send a man to the Moon and Mars.

    Our moon
    Martians are also against the vile invaders
    Fly further all together beyond the boundaries of the solar galaxy. angry
  7. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 13 February 2018 13: 29
    +5
    This is the first step in the return of American astronauts to the moon for the first time since 1972. This time we will not only set our flag and leave our traces - we will create the basis for a possible mission to Mars and, possibly, someday, to many other worlds

  8. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 February 2018 13: 30
    +5
    Better let them land on the Sun, but fly there at night! fool Storytellers! am
  9. Mussasi
    Mussasi 13 February 2018 13: 33
    +2
    Yes, it’s time to start studying the effects of space on living organisms in the absence of terrestrial magnetism. And for this it is necessary to go into distant orbits, build stations, or land on the moon. What the hell is Mars, only corpses or robots will reach it.
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 13 February 2018 13: 43
      0
      Quote: Mussashi
      Yes, it’s time to start studying the effects of space on living organisms in the absence of terrestrial magnetism.
      Do not start, but continue. Before the Americans, around the moon of the USSR, the beast launched - they returned alive.
      1. grandson of Perun
        grandson of Perun 13 February 2018 14: 45
        +2
        In 1969, the Yankees launched Bonnie chimpanzees into high orbit before the "Moon Flights". He also returned alive, but soon died of acute radiation ...
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  10. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 13 February 2018 13: 43
    +2
    Before 2030, they are unlikely to succeed, because there is no LV needed. And there is no manned ship either.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 13 February 2018 14: 36
      +2
      SLS (if Mask is not around here - they are not letting him into such projects yet, this is the real estate of real heavyweights in developing the money of Boeing and YULA) next year flies and immediately goes around the moon (first launch). The rocket is in high readiness, thanks to the use of the good old RS-25. The upgraded engines have already rolled off the ground stage of fire tests. They make the device (in fact, the main delay here, the rocket will be next year and the next technically can fly in 7 months, but there is no load, the device will be ready only in 21-22 in the year).
      1. Sands Careers General
        Sands Careers General 13 February 2018 14: 47
        0
        The first flight and immediately to the moon? Hmmm. Let's see what happens, anyway, several times already transferred.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 13 February 2018 21: 32
          0
          What was transferred?
          1. Sands Careers General
            Sands Careers General 13 February 2018 21: 55
            0
            The flight was postponed.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 14 February 2018 01: 10
              0
              The flight of which - the rocket is only just being built.
              1. Sands Careers General
                Sands Careers General 14 February 2018 01: 40
                0
                Flying for a beer of course.
                It is necessary to study the material, mattress covers in 2014 promised.
  11. Simargl
    Simargl 13 February 2018 13: 46
    0
    The title is not correct.
    Not conquest, but development.
    We did not succeed in conquering, but it is still possible to get involved in the development race.
  12. Dormidont
    Dormidont 13 February 2018 13: 46
    +2
    If you start now, by the time the series 5-6 are removed
  13. mihey
    mihey 13 February 2018 13: 50
    +2
    Poltinichik decided to celebrate? And will they set the tables? Maybe it’s safer just a hundredths or, better, half a kilogram and do not fly anywhere, as in the 72nd? winked
  14. HAM
    HAM 13 February 2018 13: 55
    +2
    What interests me most about the Americans’ "lunar mission" is the question: "who shot the Americans’ departure from the moon in such detail and from different points? Have they really left an astronaut with a camera to cook on the moon? !! Although, the" arrival "was also quite detailed ... ..He lived there !!!
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 February 2018 14: 23
      +4
      Filmed cameras that remained on the surface.
      Here is the take-off of Apollo 17, the last of six to land.
      1972 year.

      There is a video: Apollo 17 Liftoff from Moon - December 14, 1972 - YouTube


      After three days exploring the Taurus-Littrow lunar valley, Apollo 17 astronauts Eugene Cernan and Harrison Schmitt
      lit the engine on the upper (ascent) stage of their lunar module "Challenger"
      and launched off the surface at 5:55 pm EST (2255 GMT) on Dec. 14, 1972
      1. Winnie76
        Winnie76 13 February 2018 14: 42
        +3
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Filmed cameras that remained on the surface.
        Here is the take-off of Apollo 17, the last of six to land.
        1972 year.

        )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
        )))))))))))
        Warrior, I have a key to you sinks
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 February 2018 14: 46
          +1
          Got it! stop My mistake. hi For Winnie the Poohs I will post simpler pictures.
      2. dauria
        dauria 13 February 2018 14: 50
        +5
        Here is the take-off of Apollo 17, the last of the six landing


        Do not try, pictures of the landing module from the orbit of the moon will be announced as installation, you will bring a wheel from the lunar transport - they will make you prove that from the moon, and not from the landfill. An eyewitness will be told - lying or under hypnosis. Even if you bring and poke to the flag on the moon, they will say, "They threw the flag, but they themselves weren’t." These people want to believe that bluff. I am surprised that our elite is feeding this nonsense with fog.
        And it’s wonderful - in the USSR, the flight of Americans was considered a fact by the entire population and government. However, they will be able to "explain" this by some sort of conspiracy.
        1. Kondratko
          Kondratko 13 February 2018 15: 32
          +2
          No wonder many people don’t believe mattresses, it’s like in a parable about a boy who shouted “wolves, wolves”. Too many LIES from the mouth of the "partners", too many, she has long been their credo.
          And few will want to believe pathological liars, even by trifles.
          1. Topgun
            Topgun 13 February 2018 23: 37
            +1
            Well, what does faith have to do with it? what do you mean?
            when such a mission, of such magnitude, you will see everything (you’ll know how much the cleaning lady of the company that produces handkerchiefs for astronauts got up with, you don’t even have to talk about the astronauts themselves and the ship, every day they will show in the news where to find the “star” in the sky (ship) while it will be visible with the naked eye then how to catch a signal from it at amateur radio stations, excursions to the nearest observatories with the ability to observe the ship with telescopes, etc. etc.) and you will have no doubts about what is happening, as there were no doubts among Soviet people during the flight of the Americans, as there was no doubt among the Americans that Gagarin was flying (well, no one said that the ship was empty and slipped the KGB officer around the world) ...
            1. Kondratko
              Kondratko 14 February 2018 10: 31
              0
              He just said why people don’t want to believe our friends from the USA ... I didn’t say a word about the flight to the moon on the Americans or the pavilion of the film studio, why waste time trying to prove something to me, gaining so many words. ..
              hi
              I always adhere to complete neutrality in topics related to moonlight. However, I will not hide, due to my extreme depravity in the appendage with a nasty character, it gives me great pleasure to watch how, once again, wall to wall, in mortal combat, each defending his truth, believers from the confession of Apollo 11 Witnesses and sectarians converge Holy Hollywood. " It delights me to watch how blood splashes fly in all directions and the sharpened edges of axes sparkle, concerts with Petrosyan and Zadornov cannot compare with THIS and bring me more pleasure. )))
              wassat
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        2. lance
          lance 14 February 2018 07: 19
          0
          The "conspiracy" between the USSR and the USA has stopped the deadlocked many billion costs nowhere.
        3. Warrior-80
          Warrior-80 14 February 2018 09: 49
          +1
          But it’s not a problem in America itself that half of the population believes that there were no Americans on the moon. No one in the world doubts that Gagarin didn’t pour into space.
        4. grandson of Perun
          grandson of Perun 14 February 2018 13: 05
          0
          Quote: dauria
          in the USSR, the flight of Americans was considered a fact by the entire population and government

          But not rocket men and specialists.
          Back in the late 70s, I heard from my father about NASA’s blunders with "flights to the Moon" (radiation belts, oxygen atmosphere, the unbelievable reliability of previously unexperienced equipment, etc.) Blunders, which are now detailed on the Internet and then carefully mourned .
      3. Curious
        Curious 13 February 2018 15: 29
        +1
        The warrior does not expend energy on throwing beads. Does reading comments leave you with any illusions?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 February 2018 16: 02
          +1
          I believe in gradual (evolutionary) enlightenment and progress.
          (With all periodic rollbacks, irregularities, "spirals", etc.).
          Entering space is part of the biological evolution of humans as a species.
          And the first steps have already been taken: Gagarin, orbital stations, Apollo,
          moon rovers and rovers.
          Maybe some "not Winnie the Pooh" teenager in Russia will see my post with Apollo,
          be inspired fellow and become the new Queen?
          1. Antares
            Antares 13 February 2018 22: 35
            0
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I believe in gradual (evolutionary) enlightenment and progress.

            the term "negative selection" is familiar to you.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Entering space is part of the biological evolution of humans as a species.

            evolution is not even of a biological species, but of a rational species burdened by biological imperfections. It is because of biological characteristics that we have learned to fly into space, and it is because of our biological shells that we experience difficulties in it.
            Only man in the course of his evolution was able to do this. However, many do not want to believe it because of political preferences. They do not want to believe in the achievements of all mankind because of political preferences and religious prejudices.
            Quote: voyaka uh
            Maybe some "not Winnie the Pooh" teenager in Russia will see my post with Apollo,
            will be inspired by fellow and become the new Queen?

            A simple guy from Zhytomyr gave wings and a dream to the country. Undoubtedly there will be new Korolevs, Glushko, Browns, etc., the main thing is that they dream about space and they have opportunities.
      4. SHURUM -BURUM
        SHURUM -BURUM 13 February 2018 19: 08
        +3
        Dear Warrior! I saw these footage on the NASA website. There is one BUT. According to the operators who controlled our lunar rover, the control delay, taking into account the distance back and forth, was 4 seconds. How could Americans from Earth accompany a take-off camera with such a delay? Watch the video, the camera goes along the corner of the place after the rising module.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 14 February 2018 11: 00
          0
          When NASA carried out (more than 7 times, inclusive failures) the most complex Apollo project,
          it never occurred to them that then some unhealthy and
          ignorant people will suspect them of deception.
          As with the flight of Yuri Gagarin, it did not occur to the Soviet developers that
          pr_i_durki can declare him fake - and such conspiracy also walks on the network ("empty rocket took off").
          Therefore, they both made that technical and scientific limit, by the means that they were.
          1. SHURUM -BURUM
            SHURUM -BURUM 14 February 2018 19: 12
            +2
            the answer is not to the point.
  15. Loess
    Loess 13 February 2018 14: 02
    +6
    Well, in principle, they need to hurry, otherwise the one who will be the first will have a desire to visit the place of the previous "mooning" of the Americans.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 February 2018 14: 28
      +2
      On the contrary, it is necessary that in those places other
      not americans. The Chinese, preferably.
      Again comrades with ... recourse alternative abilities
      perceptions of reality ..
      And they will believe the Chinese. It is unlikely that NASA would bribe rich China.
      1. Servisinzhener
        Servisinzhener 14 February 2018 10: 18
        0
        These will not believe anyone. Even if you drop one of them and let them examine the landing site of Apollo - 11. The rest will say that he was bribed. Because these are the same pan-and-panheads as in Ukraine, who believe that the bridge to the Crimea is removed on a mosfilm, and Russia is about to fall apart.
      2. grandson of Perun
        grandson of Perun 14 February 2018 13: 19
        0
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Comrades with ... alternative abilities will not believe the Americans again
        perceptions of reality ..

        According to my observations, only "comrades with alternative abilities" give evidence and give the impression of technically competent people.
        Unlike NASA lawyers, who only offer to take everything on faith and insult doubters.
        Well, there are too many shoals at NASA with these “flights,” so people don’t believe it.
  16. Orionvit
    Orionvit 13 February 2018 14: 06
    +2
    In December 2017, Trump signed a directive on space policy to send a man to the Moon and Mars.
    One of them already talked about the fact that "the Americans should land on the moon at the end of this decade." So landed, already several times, that the landing sites still can not show. laughing As one character used to say, "What, again?"
  17. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 13 February 2018 14: 11
    +1
    And AT THIS TIME IN ROSKOSMOS ...

    Come on, we’ll have more talkers. And lunar Obeshchalkins as well.
  18. axxmanm
    axxmanm 13 February 2018 14: 29
    +1
    Trump knows that there were no Americans on the moon and wants to go down in history as a president in which a person first landed on the moon, and generally went beyond the earth's orbit.
    For his great ambition, this is an ideal option - a great achievement,
    especially in contrast with Nixon's crooks
    and covering up this fraud by subsequent presidents,
    ... especially Obama who somehow eyes (there is a video)

    trump up trump - what
    does he want to become president and
    Does he want to say that there were no flights to the moon.
    He already answered the first joke - he became president.
    He plans to answer the second with deed.
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  19. Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 13 February 2018 14: 56
    +4
    Not a damn thing will come of them. There is no oil there.
    1. Warrior-80
      Warrior-80 14 February 2018 10: 31
      0
      I heard there a lot of helium -3 in comparison with the earth, which is valued and used a lot
      1. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 14 February 2018 11: 56
        +1
        Quote: Warrior-80
        I heard there a lot of helium -3 in comparison with the earth, which is valued and used a lot

        Helium, selenium is certainly good, but what will be the cost of a gram of substance delivered from the moon?
  20. LVMI1980
    LVMI1980 13 February 2018 14: 59
    +2
    Let the engines learn how to do first ...
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 February 2018 21: 34
      0
      They have their own engines.
  21. Bronevick
    Bronevick 13 February 2018 15: 02
    +5
    Is mankind really going to the moon.
  22. Lexus
    Lexus 13 February 2018 16: 37
    +4
    United States decided on the timing of the conquest of the moon

    Hollywood applauds renewed collaboration with NASA. smile
  23. cedar
    cedar 13 February 2018 16: 57
    +3
    Nonsense like the moon has not seen.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 February 2018 21: 37
      0
      Just the same I saw - in full - 14000 photos of the Moon and the landing in HD https://www.flickr.com/photos/projectapolloarchiv
      e / page136
      1. axxmanm
        axxmanm 13 February 2018 22: 09
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        14000 photos of the moon and landing in HD


        this gray daub, against the background of vivid colorful pictures of even distant planets and their satellites, only strengthens confidence not only in the mediocre falsification of the Apollo’s photo “from the moon”, but also in the bias (or mental inferiority) of the defenders of the version of the truth of the Americans’s flights to the moon 1968- 72 years
        1. axxmanm
          axxmanm 13 February 2018 22: 16
          +1
          looking at this photo you might think that Titan is an object close to the Earth and very important for its development, and the Moon is very distant, nondescript, meaningless
          for the Earth, a celestial body that was photographed a couple of times between black and white (and where only did they find one?)
          click to enlarge.
          Despite the fact that the color of Titan on this collage is shown distorted, still no one tries to show it in black and white.
        2. axxmanm
          axxmanm 13 February 2018 22: 17
          +2
          unique phenomenon !! on all photos and images (not only in the presented one) since the 90s (when it became possible to tell everyone what is right and what is not) - the ONLY heavenly body moon has strictly ideologically correct (you must adhere to the lines sustained in the Apollo "photo documents") gray, or rather even primitive black and white, color:
          click to enlarge-
          1. axxmanm
            axxmanm 13 February 2018 22: 17
            +1
            ..there is one more photo comparison: where only Mimas, which is the smallest known cosmic body with a rounded shape due to its own gravity, has 400 km. , and it is of interest besides this, only because it has a shape close to that sweet heart of every nerd-nerd (who felt his significance after the release of TBBT), a "death star". For reference, it is located almost 5000 times further than the Moon from the Earth and, unlike the Moon, has no effect on the history of the Earth, nor on its current state. (Not to mention the fact that without the Moon on Earth there would be no reason life, nor life at all):
            click to enlarge -
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 14 February 2018 01: 29
            +2
            Lunar soil, it’s such a color on Earth - so what color is the moon, again we return to what is associated with shooting in a vacuum and lack of atmosphere.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 14 February 2018 01: 35
              +2
              And here are the rocks
            2. axxmanm
              axxmanm 14 February 2018 13: 55
              +1
              This photo serves only as a visual demonstration of the albedo (reflectivity) of the lunar surface.
              And do not juggle palming it as a demonstration of the color of the lunar soil.
              Shame on you ...
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 14 February 2018 23: 38
                0
                And these are the real colors of the moon.
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 February 2018 01: 13
          +1
          Well, you must understand that color depends on the chemical composition of the film, the incidence of light, as well as the design of the camera and all this in a vacuum.
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  25. axxmanm
    axxmanm 13 February 2018 22: 23
    +2
    Is there really someone in 2018 who is invisible that this (like the photo in the news body) is a mediocre shameful photo montage! ??


    It’s like in old action movies (Bond and others) watched 20-30 years ago and seems to have gotten into action, but now you are reviewing and it just hurts the eyes from editing ..
    The same with Apollon videos and photos.
    1. axxmanm
      axxmanm 13 February 2018 22: 28
      +1
      the doll in which the left hand is fixed in this unnatural position in EVERY photo, and in ALL videos, especially delivers
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 14 February 2018 01: 20
        0
        There isn’t any unnatural situation there and this is not a montage, the colors seem unnatural because the lack of atmosphere, specially harshness — as a result of the absence of stars, and everything connected with the shooting.
    2. cedar
      cedar 14 February 2018 10: 30
      +1
      They are on what and how this hefty layba on the “Moon” was pinned. She was standing on the roof of the lunar module? They pulled her from there, stole, removed ... ???
      Nonsense, which the moon has not seen and hopefully will not see.
      1. grandson of Perun
        grandson of Perun 14 February 2018 13: 30
        +1
        Quote: cedar
        They are on what and how this hefty layba on the “Moon” was pinned. She was standing on the roof of the lunar module?

        No, judging by the ads under the module above the landing.
        They flew through radiation belts in capsules with a wall thickness of several millimeters and a flammable oxygen atmosphere at reduced pressure for the sake of weight saving, and then suddenly they found a reserve for more than 300 kilogram rattle winked
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 February 2018 23: 43
          0
          This “Lunar Rover” collapsible collar was mounted on the landing module
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 14 February 2018 23: 43
          0
          So, folded -
  26. Disorder
    Disorder 14 February 2018 01: 41
    0
    And what will they fly to the moon on Mask toys for?
    1. cedar
      cedar 14 February 2018 10: 23
      +1
      On a cast-iron core, like Munchausen ... The main thing to find for this epic is the astronaut with cast-iron heads and crayfish ...
  27. Satum
    Satum 14 February 2018 04: 40
    0
    Will bring democracy to the cosmos
  28. Satum
    Satum 14 February 2018 04: 41
    0
    Quote: Vadim237
    There isn’t any unnatural situation there and this is not a montage, the colors seem unnatural because the lack of atmosphere, specially harshness — as a result of the absence of stars, and everything connected with the shooting.

    This is the work of Stanley Kubrick
    1. lance
      lance 14 February 2018 07: 31
      0
      do not rest strongly on color. An example of a photo from Mars, which filter set the shades.
  29. cedar
    cedar 14 February 2018 10: 18
    +2
    Quote: Vadim237
    Lunar soil, it’s such a color on Earth - so what color is the moon, again we return to what is associated with shooting in a vacuum and lack of atmosphere.

    You don’t fool people. First, ask how much one gram of lunar soil is worth. And then pour it in handfuls and shovels as much as you want and wherever you want, even on your own head.
    1. axxmanm
      axxmanm 14 February 2018 13: 57
      +1
      Quote: cedar
      You don’t fool people. First, ask how much one gram of lunar soil is worth. And then pour it in handfuls and shovels as much as you want and wherever you want, even on your own head.

      That's right ..
      This photo serves only as a visual demonstration of the albedo (reflectivity) of the lunar surface.
      And NASA defenders are cheating by slipping it as a demonstration of the color of the lunar soil ...
      And so on any issue ...
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 February 2018 23: 46
      0
      Not how much does he cost - everything is already private traders - from his own, the rest is in museums.
      1. axxmanm
        axxmanm 15 February 2018 00: 19
        +1
        Quote: Vadim237
        .

        Well, lighten your soul, admit that in the photo you have shown there is no lunar soil, but just a selected mixture to clearly demonstrate the reflectivity (albedo) of the lunar surface
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 15 February 2018 01: 45
          0
          Soil samples are presented below - everything was flights along with landings and docking, later in orbit with our module, moon flights and much more - it’s stupid to deny that there are too many people who participated in the creation of Lunar machines, as well as witnesses of flights to the USA to the whole world and in the USSR, and we recognized this.
  30. cedar
    cedar 14 February 2018 17: 06
    +2
    Quote: axxmanm
    Quote: cedar
    You don’t fool people. First, ask how much one gram of lunar soil is worth. And then pour it in handfuls and shovels as much as you want and wherever you want, even on your own head.

    That's right ..
    This photo serves only as a visual demonstration of the albedo (reflectivity) of the lunar surface.
    And NASA defenders are cheating by slipping it as a demonstration of the color of the lunar soil ...
    And so on any issue ...


    Right Having scrolled such a universal scam, the US lunatics realized that the divorce was completely successful. And they did not stop at what had been achieved and immediately refused to provide the dollar with gold, but why take a steam with gold, when it rolls like that without it?
    Humanity swallowed this, too, and drove everything that it produced in kind for empty unsecured papers to the US sleepwalkers ... Voila!
    If, someone thinks that the US sleepwalkers have settled on this, he is very mistaken. They lit up the USSR.
    Now bred Russia. They promise every barrel of strawberry jam and a basket of strawberry cookies ...
    Where is the USSR? No USSR.
    See the root. Where is Russia? She is in our minds. Therefore, we sleepwalkers and powder in every possible way brains.
    She is in our hearts. Therefore, they want to destroy us.
    Sovereignty. Russia. Putin
  31. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 14 February 2018 19: 49
    0
    As they say in Odessa, they have already subdued them. And the Russians occupy the lunar soil for research.
  32. weddu
    weddu 14 February 2018 21: 56
    0
    ..and the first person on the moon will also be Russian, well, maybe with a Chinese ..