Finnish Defense Ministry received the first South Korean howitzers K9

Finnish Defense Minister Yussia Niinisto reported that 8 February 2018 was the first batch of South Korean 155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzers K9 Thunder (fin. Moukari) arrived at the Finnish port of Vuosaari (Helsinki). Judging by the photos, at least four SAUs were delivered, reports the BMPD blog.

Recall that the contract for the purchase of 48 155-mm / 52 self-propelled howitzers 9 Thunder units from the presence of the South Korean army was concluded by the Finnish Ministry of Defense in February 2017. The cost of the contract 146 million euros, including the cost of training, spare parts and service support. Supplies must be made to the Finnish Ministry of Defense from 2017 to 2024 years. The contract includes an option to purchase an additional number of K9 howitzers.

Earlier in November 2016, one K9 sample was tested in Finland, having received, as reported, a good rating. This sample ACS remains in Finland and is used for training, testing and demonstration purposes.

The K9 howitzers must be replaced in the Finnish Defense Forces by the outdated Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 2С1 "Carnation" (Finnish designation 122 PSH 74). Now the Finnish army has 72 SAU 2C1, acquired in 1992 year from the presence of the army of the former GDR.

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[Firework]

What are the advantages of Korean 155mm howitzers?
is there still a bunch of other countries?

[_Jack_]

K9 is really one of the best in the world in this class, about the same level as the German PzH-2000, but it is more expensive, and considering that the K9 fins were used, it’s not at all expensive

[Safevi]

The Finns made a great choice! K-2 today is one of the best in its class.

[Lex.]

Not counting the coalition

[vlad66]

Quote: Lex.

Not counting the coalition

Do not enlighten what coalition is God's chosen one

[Lex.]

If only to blurt out you you unbeaten

[vlad66]

Quote: Lex.

If only to blurt out you you unbeaten

You’re snoozing as soon as you are a nice person, besides a stupid trolling on the topic have something to say? burn So what is coalition?

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Quote: vlad66

Quote: Lex.

If only to blurt out you you unbeaten

You’re snoozing as soon as you are a nice person, besides a stupid trolling on the topic have something to say? burn So what is coalition?

SG production of the Russian Federation ...

[Shurik70]

Quote: Salute

What are the advantages of Korean 155mm howitzers?

Perhaps a single 155mm standard with the rest of their own howitzers 83-97K and K98 of their own production? Or maybe the depleted reserves of 122mm shells from the "Carnations"? Or someone needs a banal bribe from South Korea ... Someone will take them apart.
And what's the difference. $ 146 million, 72 guns - this is normal for peacetime and enough for high-quality training of draftees. For a real war, of course, not enough, but if the Finns themselves do not attack, but do not provide their territory for the Enemy, no one will attack them either.

[aszzz888]

... 72 guns are normal ...

Recall that the acquisition contract 48 units 155 mm / 52 K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers from the presence of the South Korean army was signed by the Ministry of Defense of Finland in February 2017.

... something like this...

[Shurik70]

If you already decided to abandon the "Carnations", then all the guns will be replaced. Now 48, the rest later. And according to the mind, so the "decommissioned" guns can be preserved in the warehouse, even if they lie down ... 50 years.
Although, if they have a "budget cut", then they can replace 72 "Carnations" with 48 K9, but now the world’s military budget is being increased on the contrary.

[Faith]

Another iksperd from azerbotia ... I would also understand if the layout allowed to mix up 9 and 2. K-2 is a Korean tank, it has nothing to do with a howitzer, this time. Second, “The Finns made a wonderful choice!”, An expert opinion, not otherwise, a connoisseur of all the weapons of the world, apparently engaged in the exploitation of the K-9 for more than a year. What kind of people, just to blurt out something ...

[Kars]

For three million dollars apiece) it's almost free.
And to the Turks their thunder / phantin brought nothing special.

[Denis Obukhov]

Well, so they didn’t take new ones, and the price is so cheap.

[Faith]

Our “Msta” is no worse. For export is in the 155mm version.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Salute

What are the advantages of Korean 155mm howitzers?

Relatively cheap.

Quote: Salute

is there still a bunch of other countries?

Not a fact.
Or dear "German" or not less, or even more expensive Swedish.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Salute

is there still a bunch of other countries?

- What interests me the most: and with whom are the Finns THESE self-propelled guns intend to fight ??? And then almost deja vu ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: oldseaman1957

What interests me the most: and with whom are the Finns THESE self-propelled guns intend to fight

And with “Carnations” 2C1 with whom were you going? Probably with Arab terrorists.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Spade

And with “Carnations” 2C1 with whom were you going?

- With the "Carnations" you can ... They would have bought another M-30 from us!

[Lopatov]

Quote: oldseaman1957

They would have bought M-30 from us!

What for? They already had 41 "kulak sawn-off shotguns". Passed under the name 122 H / 38
Trophy.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: oldseaman1957

They would have bought M-30 from us!

We bought D-30. I watched a scene in a model store when an elderly Finn bought D-30 out of nostalgic feelings. He told me that in the 70s he served as an artilleryman and the D-30 was just his own. And so Finns from armament bought a lot of things in the USSR.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Paranoid50

We bought D-30.

I say: M-30!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: oldseaman1957

M-30!

Yes, that’s understandable. (They were also). I mean, they bought a lot of things from us.

[oldseaman1957]

Quote: Paranoid50

I mean, they bought a lot of things from us.

- And besides ... Just pathos went: for what purpose are the Finns arming themselves? And the rest is NUANCE ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: oldseaman1957

for what purpose are Finns arming themselves?

It seems that this issue became rhetorical back in Soviet times. One answer comes to mind: And so be it! But the global trend indicates: this is against Iran and the DPRK. Although, while on the Iranian-Finnish (as well as on the Korean-Finnish) border, everything is calm.

[_Jack_]

we are constantly reporting successful rearmament, the Finns may also ask - who do the Russians intend to fight with these IT weapons?

[Lopatov]

Well yes. By "price-quality", at the moment this is the best choice.

[figwam]

_Jack_

And the United States recognized us as an enemy, tanks, missiles are thrown to our borders, and for whom is Finland an enemy?

[_Jack_]

Finnish land borders only with Sweden, Norway and Russia. I am sure that they are definitely not going to fight with Sweden and Norway ...

[demo]

And let the Finns answer this question for themselves.
More than 100 years of joining the Russian Empire should have taught something?
Including think.
If Russia had not been warlike, then the Finns would hardly have gained statehood and estrangement from Sweden.
So they would have been a drained autonomy.

[Sands Careers General]

And why is clove bad? If necessary, he will blow so that the ears come off. And Korean howitzers are really expensive.

[Giant thought]

All the same, not a very high price and good technical condition solved the issue in favor of the Korean self-propelled guns.

[KVU-NSVD]

What are the advantages of Korean 155 mm howitzers?

Modern system. NATO standard. Finnish neutral status is only a phantom declaration

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

NATO standard

Rather, "affordable modern ammunition"
We have not developed anything new in the 122 mm caliber since the days of the USSR. The Chinese, there are doubts about the quality.

[KVU-NSVD]

122 (127) and 152 (155) different worlds in practice. At 152, we also have something to show ourselves.

We have not developed anything new in the 122 mm caliber since the days of the USSR.

Modernizing the Soviet backlog is also not a dead end. Another thing is that the 122mm segment we generally bypass in the development. But in vain. excellent field gauge for the ground forces.

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Modernizing the Soviet backlog is also not a dead end

Not a dead end. However, in fact, at 122 the horse did not roll. And the only ones who "itch" are the Chinese from Norinko

[KVU-NSVD]

What do you propose? In my opinion, the "correction" for the 122nd will not be pulled en masse into the troops. Increase range? new trunks are needed - also probably from the same opera. "Users" have some goodies, but they have to be put off until better times. Probably the same reasoning at the planning level with us. Although doing the work anyway of course follows. Or maybe they do ...

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

What do you propose?

It's too late to twitch.

[KVU-NSVD]

Late to drink Borjomi if the kidneys have fallen off? Well, I'm still a big optimist. If necessary, the rear will supply The main thing is to immediately cover and overfulfill the standards for coagulation and care in ZPR

[Lopatov]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Late to drink Borjomi if the kidneys have fallen off? Well, I'm still a big optimist.

The train left.
From the Soviet in the 122-mm caliber are actively abandoned. And well, only those who are "by NATO standards." For example, Algeria replaces 122 with Chinese 155 mm

[KVU-NSVD]

For example, Algeria replaces 122 with Chinese 155 mm

We just decided to increase the caliber to the next level, and not because of the obsolescence of the b / p, and chose the device cheaper

[Graz]

if you don’t count the coalition, it’s kind of like the most long-range one at the present time

[sgazeev]

Quote: Salute

What are the advantages of Korean 155mm howitzers?
is there still a bunch of other countries?

Grease is thicker, just right for the Finnish climate.

[Simon]

Quote: Salute

What are the advantages of Korean 155mm howitzers?
is there still a bunch of other countries?

Apparently I really liked it!

[Lopatov]

So much so that I had to "throw" the neighbors of the Swedes with their "Archer". And in response, the Swedes abandoned the Finnish self-propelled mortars. 8))))))))

[KVU-NSVD]

48 units of 155 mm / 52 K9 Thunder self-propelled howitzers

4 three-battery divisions from powerful modern systems. An awful fist on the scale of the Finnish army. I wonder what ammunition included? And the first battery has already arrived. For us, one more pain in the North-West, requiring resources for reaction ....

[Denis Obukhov]

As many as 3 152-mm shells in nuclear performance have to spend)))

[KVU-NSVD]

As many as 3 152-mm shells in nuclear performance will have to spend))) laughing

Well, if we assume their collection in one field camp, then "expense-one" is enough But seriously, such an artillery brigade is not a bug sneezed. And their shells, too, by the hour of H, will also undoubtedly be in variety ...

[APASUS]

I wonder how these howitzers will behave in cold weather, because Finland is still not South Korea

[Thunderbolt]

Earlier in November 2016, one K9 sample passed tests in Finland, receiving, as reported, a good mark.

Hanwha Techwin K155 Thunder South Korean 52 mm / 9 self-propelled howitzer in Finland. November 2016

[Herculesic]

The Finns have experience adapting leopard 2 tanks to their climate! And these self-propelled guns will also torment themselves, but they will adapt!

[Vladivostok1969]

The temperature in the north of South Korea in winter (ear cuts) is on average -12 degrees. So, far from the southern country

[Dormidont]

Even with their help, do not keep the mannerheim line

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Obviously this will be defended from Russia .. heh heh .. They think we will tear, as in the past ..? Naive, the more you buy finas, the more goals we have in rockets, etc. is laid .. Then do not be offended! We still took the Mannerheim line, but now everything will be easier ..

[Herculesic]

We need to immediately create two options for the “Coalition” —for ourselves, and for sale over the hill.

[Lexus]

Against whom, gophers, are we arming ourselves?

[svp67]

K9 howitzers should replace the obsolete Soviet 122-mm self-propelled howitzers 2C1 "Carnation" in the Finnish Defense Forces (Finnish designation 122 PSH 74)

Strange, but the Finns still have plenty of towed artillery, and they decided to start the replacement with the "Carnation"

[Wolka]

in Russian it looks like this "but Vaska listens and eats ..."

[Evil 55]

Is there such a concept in the army-Adaptation ... Are Korean howitzers adapted to the conditions of use in Finland or will they happen the same as with the "Koreans" in Russia - at -15 they will not start, and after 5 years they will rot to such and such mother ..