Czech Republic refused to upgrade self-propelled howitzers Dana

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As the American edition of Defense News reported, the Czech Ministry of Defense canceled the 33 152 self-propelled 77-mm howitzer Dana vz.8 retrofitting program on a wheeled chassis with the 8 XXNXX formula of the Czech army, and in return announced plans to purchase 50 155-type self-propelled howitzers. one of the NATO countries. " It is planned to allocate up to 52 billion CZK (up to 10 million dollars) for the purchase of new SAUs.

Czech Republic refused to upgrade self-propelled howitzers Dana




According to initial plans, the Czech Ministry of Defense intends to modernize 33 self-propelled howitzers Dana caliber 152-mm / 37, and highlight 2,5 billion kroner for the purchase abroad to 2022 year 17 modern self-propelled howitzers 155-mm / 52, with a range of up to 40 km , and another 2 billion crowns - for the purchase of appropriate ammunition caliber 155 mm to them. Now, instead, they plan to purchase 50 Western SAUs of 155-mm / 52 caliber right away, writes bmpd blog

The Dana M1M prototype was first demonstrated by Tatra Trucks in August 2016. The modernized ACS has received a new cabin with improved ergonomics and security, a new filtering unit, as well as air conditioning and heating systems. The standard engine of the ACS Tatra T-930 received an upgrade package in order to increase the resource and efficiency and improve compliance with modern environmental requirements. On the chassis installed a new semi-automatic transmission Tatra-Norgren.

The ACS also received an auxiliary power unit, an all-round video camera system, new lighting equipment, a centralized tire pressure monitoring system, and upgraded hydraulic drives. In addition, it was proposed to install a new fire control system developed by the Czech company Retia, which is part of the Czechoslovak Group, as well as American-made GPS navigation equipment.

It was also reported that Slovak companies MSM Martin and ZVS Nová Dubnica, in partnership with the Czech company Explosia, were to supply new artillery ammunition of the 152 caliber mm for the modernized SAU Dana. In particular, it was planned to introduce a new aerodynamic DN1CZ high-explosive fragmentation projectile with a bottom gas generator and a Р740 liner charge, having a Dana cannon range in 25,5 km (the maximum range of a conventional projectile is 18,7 km).

The Dana self-propelled howitzer on the 8x8 wheeled chassis (based on Tatra 815 undercarriage) was developed and mass-produced by ZTS Dubnica (Slovakia) from 1981 to 1993 years. Altogether, 672 systems were made together with experimental and pre-production samples, of which 415 was supplied by the Czechoslovak People's Army, 128 to the USSR Armed Forces, 111 to the Polish Army and eight were exported to Libya. Later, on its basis, ZTS Dubnica developed improved versions of Ondava (with 152-mm / 47 howitzer), Zuzana (with 155-mm / 45 howitzer) and Zuzana 2 (with 155-mm / 52 howitzer), of which only Zuzana was mass-produced (16 was supplied to the army of Slovakia and 12 to Cyprus).
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  1. +7
    8 February 2018 15: 31
    One such one worked very accurately in Donetsk and Gorlovka. Four shots and changes position, after 10 minutes four shots and again changes position.
    1. +7
      8 February 2018 15: 39
      The Georgians were the same. But they did not help them. And so, a mobile howitzer.
      1. +3
        8 February 2018 15: 44
        It seems that in 2008 in Georgia and in 2014-2015 in the Donbass it did not live up to expectations and was abandoned.
        1. +1
          8 February 2018 15: 49
          at the tender for the purchase, you can get more kickback
        2. +3
          8 February 2018 15: 53
          The Czech Republic, apparently, is also partly subject to corruption, since they change plans and acquire NATO self-propelled guns, their pocket is always closer to their bodies than someone else's shirt.
        3. avt
          +2
          8 February 2018 16: 05
          Quote: Sith Lord
          lived up to expectations and abandoned it.

          what I think so. Firstly, the barrel caliber is NATO 155mm, that is, the barrels for any change; Secondly, the chassis is of course the Tatra, but since 1976 the unit itself has been assembled in Slovakia, that is, in another country today, albeit the EU. That is, in fact, it is necessary to deploy large-scale self-propelled guns at home, and who will buy ?? So most likely suck them B.U. Germans, or USs, but rather Germans, this is their patrimony.
          1. 0
            9 February 2018 05: 56
            Quote: avt
            That is, in fact, it is necessary to deploy large-scale self-propelled guns at home, and who will buy ??

            Not true. In addition to the 152 mm “Dana”, they have a very similar 155 mm “Suzana”, it would not be difficult to turn one into the other when modernizing, but then they decided to “bow”, I suppose to the Americans or Germans
        4. 0
          8 February 2018 16: 31
          So you said that you worked very accurately in the first comment? Maybe just the ammunition is over or corny broke ??
          1. +2
            8 February 2018 17: 56
            She worked accurately and worked 1,5 years. I don’t know what further, maybe the barrel cracked or it was still covered.
            1. 0
              8 February 2018 19: 43
              It’s Soviet, as I understand it, uses shells, otherwise would it have been ahead of the fragments by the fact that NATO or not? In general, records of hits in terms of options for arrivals of shells are kept?
              1. +2
                8 February 2018 20: 01
                Used 155 mm, one of these shells hit the courtyard of the Gorlovka monastery.
                1. 0
                  8 February 2018 21: 29
                  155 newer, then run in. Even if our ours hooked her all the way to the bolt, they had already taken them out and into the water.
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    3. +2
      8 February 2018 17: 46
      Lord of the Sith
      One such one worked very accurately in Donetsk and Gorlovka.


      1. 0
        8 February 2018 18: 15
        not unloading, but pornography will be on soft soils
    4. 0
      8 February 2018 18: 36
      Soon, another 33 will drive up to the Donbass.
    5. 0
      8 February 2018 22: 13
      Quote: Sith Lord
      One such one worked very accurately in Donetsk and Gorlovka

      We can safely assume that these 33 non-modernized ones will go there. The Czech Republic will get new ones, and these will be paid by the sponsor, well, not supply new ones.
  2. +4
    8 February 2018 15: 34
    Purchase from the Amerzians. They ordered. Yes, and for NATO, the caliber is not suitable.
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  4. +7
    8 February 2018 15: 41
    So there was this news, and even one Azerbaijani expert on foreign weapons famously proved and praised its superiority and convenience on a wheelbase, did not have time to move away from the monitor as the Czechs betrayed it. I advised him not to fall under the distribution of Russian-made artillery from the same Armenia.
    1. +5
      8 February 2018 16: 04
      Yes, and it was modernized the guns of Czechs eti and sell and buy Western that they will sell everything.
      Do you think many Western countries are ready to sell their art systems to Azerbaijan?
      the answer is clear none.
      Only Russia and Turkey and Israel remain
      We have plenty of their art systems.
    2. +1
      8 February 2018 18: 25
      Quote: Soldier's father
      one Azerbaijani expert on foreign weapons famously proved and praised its superiority and convenience on a wheelbase, did not have time to move away from the monitor as the Czechs betrayed him.

      Well, firstly, they didn’t “betray” us, but decided to introduce uniformity. Secondly, judging by the price, the new self-propelled guns will also be wheeled.
  5. 0
    8 February 2018 15: 59
    Someone lobbied for overseas purchases. Otherwise, it is not clear why the quantity has increased significantly and our own industry was left without an order.
  6. +3
    8 February 2018 16: 11
    Czech Ministry of Defense annulled modernization program for 33 Dana 152mm self-propelled howitzers

    It is possible that the customer prefers to upgrade these complexes in another country, in Israel, for example)
  7. +1
    8 February 2018 16: 38
    What they do not like their car? fool In vain, by and large, they only add trouble to themselves, buying someone else's!
    1. +2
      8 February 2018 18: 18
      Quote: Herkulesich
      What they do not like their car?

      This is not your own.
      Slovak
  8. 0
    8 February 2018 19: 36
    Czech Republic refused to upgrade self-propelled howitzers Dana

    And rightly so. Why feed your defense industry, you need to feed the defense industry of NATO. feel
  9. 0
    9 February 2018 01: 39
    Old ones already. And modernization “to the level” turned out to be very costly.
  10. 0
    9 February 2018 10: 33
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: avt
    That is, in fact, it is necessary to deploy large-scale self-propelled guns at home, and who will buy ??

    Not true. In addition to the 152 mm “Dana”, they have a very similar 155 mm “Suzana”, it would not be difficult to turn one into the other when modernizing, but then they decided to “bow”, I suppose to the Americans or Germans

    You're not right. Chekhov does not have a “Zuzanne”. She is only in Slovakia
  11. 0
    9 February 2018 10: 37
    Quote: Giant thought
    The Czech Republic, apparently, is also partly subject to corruption, since they change plans and acquire NATO self-propelled guns, their pocket is always closer to their bodies than someone else's shirt.

    And they themselves are in NATO. And since they got into this structure, they want to or not, but sooner or later they will have to unify