Tehmash will modernize the complexes "Brave" and "centimeter"

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Concern "Tehmash" (part of Rostec) plans to modernize complexes of corrected artillery armament of the first generation "Centimeter" and "Brave", reports press office company.





The question of their improvement was discussed at a scientific and technical conference devoted to the state and prospects of the development of field artillery ammunition, tank and naval artillery.

Modernization will be carried out on the basis of the Scientific-Research Machine-Building Institute. V.V. Bakhireva.

It is reported that "both complexes intended for destruction of armored vehicles, launchers and artillery guns in firing positions were created in one of the divisions of the institute and adopted by the Ground Forces in 1980-s."

Tehmash will modernize the complexes "Brave" and "centimeter"


Today we are faced with the most important task of successfully improving and further developing the research and production base of NIIM, new developments and production of ammunition in the interests of developing weapons systems and the defense industry complex of Russia,
quoted by the press service of the Director General of them V.V. Bakhireva Alexander Gordyukhina.

The company noted that within the framework of the scientific conference “more than 15 reports were considered, which were attended by about 100 scientists and specialists from leading enterprises of the ammunition industry of Russia, representatives of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, RARAN, etc.”.
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  1. +1
    6 February 2018 12: 37
    Time does not stand still, it is now important to hit the target from the first shot and very quickly.
  2. +8
    6 February 2018 12: 39
    "Centimeter" and "Daredevil", a difficult fate, VO was modest in information, but the "bastion" does not allow copying, so for the curious, I give the link: http: //bastion-karpenko.ru/santimetr/
    1. +6
      6 February 2018 13: 03
      Thanks for the link. Informative. smile As I understand it, we returned to this topic in connection with the development of drones.
  3. +5
    6 February 2018 12: 39
    Daredevil and Centimeter ammunition noble. And why about Krasnopol is silent?
    1. +7
      6 February 2018 13: 13
      Quote: NEXUS
      Daredevil and Centimeter ammunition noble. And why about Krasnopol is silent?

      Andrew, hi ! They were notable in the last century. A centimeter and a Daredevil require laser illumination, and this is the presence of a spotter. They proved themselves to be excellent in Afghanistan when using bunkers and fortified positions, when shooting at moving targets (a tank), laser illumination is instantly fixed by on-board equipment and aerosol shots are being shot., While the position of the spotter is fixed. We certainly consider modern tanks of potential opponents.
      EMNIP, Krasnopol also requires "backlighting."
      1. +2
        6 February 2018 13: 52
        That's right. These shells are good, but in certain situations where it is safe to illuminate the target. In the 21st century, new generation shells are needed with the possibility of autonomous homing on the target. In this regard, unfortunately, we have a lag behind NATO.
      2. +7
        6 February 2018 13: 55
        Quote: kapitan92
        laser illumination is instantly fixed by on-board equipment and aerosol shots are being fired

        And if there is nothing to fix, as well as nothing to shoot? Because fragments of art. shells all "mounted" on the armor, like a cow tongue licked?
        At the moment, vaunted shells with guidance on the LPS simply do not have the necessary accuracy. And for example, on the promising Italo-German UAS "Volcano" provided the possibility of additional installation of a semi-active laser seeker to ensure sufficient accuracy.
        1. +3
          6 February 2018 14: 00
          Quote: Spade
          And if there is nothing to fix, as well as nothing to shoot?

          I focused on the presence of modern enemy tanks (NATO)., And against the outskirts will go for a sweet soul. hi
          1. +4
            6 February 2018 14: 11
            Quote: kapitan92
            I focused on the presence of modern enemy tanks (NATO

            And do they really have all these sensors and mortars armored?
  4. 0
    6 February 2018 12: 52
    It seems that these pieces have done a lot and they are now just out of date.
    Well, they would have shot them on the battlefield.
    1. +1
      6 February 2018 13: 00
      Quote: Zomanus
      Well, they would have shot them on the battlefield.

      which? who are we fighting with?
  5. 0
    6 February 2018 12: 56
    That's right, a good and cheaper appendage to the corrected Krasnopol.
    1. +1
      6 February 2018 13: 49
      Quote: Chichikov
      That's right, a good and cheaper appendage to the corrected Krasnopol.

      ... young man ... fool I understand your desire to "be noted", but .... "sometimes it is better to chew than speak" (C) Yes
      1. 0
        6 February 2018 16: 58
        Young man, it's you! And the answer, read below, probably for such a wise guy like you, an additional explanation was required.
    2. +4
      6 February 2018 14: 00
      Strictly speaking, the "Krasnopole" guided projectile according to the terminology adopted by the USSR. Since it is controlled along the entire trajectory. A "Centimeter" is adjustable, as it is controlled only at the final site.
      But basically you’re right, a really cheap appendage, from the very beginning it was exactly what he thought of.

      With "Daredevil" another story. Guided mines of this caliber do not exist. With a relatively low dispersion of the "Tulips" it was considered that pulse correction is enough.
  6. 0
    6 February 2018 14: 51
    If only modernization were not more expensive than the new.
  7. 0
    6 February 2018 16: 06
    Video for the topic:
  8. 0
    6 February 2018 17: 04
    It can be upgraded for use by the Coalition when it is time to make adjustments for the steering gear of the projectile directly in flight, analyzing the deviation data from the calculated trajectory according to the data of the Coalition radar. Then laser target illumination is not required: you only need to know the relative location of the target.
  9. +1
    6 February 2018 23: 44
    They have a relatively low duration of illumination (around 3 seconds, if I’m not mistaken), much less than Krasnopol’s 20+ seconds, so the response time is much less. A couple of times to increase the range would be nice. And also - to use the operating time of pulsed microRED in missile defense to implement, finally, "heat-to-kill".