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Finland does not exclude the possibility of joining NATO

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Inauguration of the President of Finland Sauli Niinistö was held in Helsinki. His victory in the first round of voting and the high personal rating indicate that there should be no fundamental changes in the state’s foreign policy, writes Kommersant.




Sauli Niinistö, has been the head of state since 2012 of the year. After the election, he made it clear that he saw in such support of his fellow citizens a signal of wanting to keep everything as it is.

You should not strive for change for the sake of change,
explained the president.

Meanwhile, the future leadership relationship with NATO remains at the center of attention of the Finnish press.

Issues of foreign and security policy, as well as the prospects for joining NATO, played a significant role in the public debate before the elections,
Antero Mukka, editor-in-chief of the Finnish newspaper Helsingin Sanomat, told Russian journalists.

He recalled that more than 60% of Finns invariably state in polls that they are against joining the alliance.

Finland is an EU member, and most EU countries are members of NATO. We cooperate with them when we implement security and defense policies within the EU. But I do not want the arms race to begin in the north of Europe. And if Finland applied for joining NATO, Russia would take it negatively,
said, in turn, the second most popular participant in the presidential race, 2018, Green representative Pekka Haavisto.

At the same time, the former ambassador of Finland to Russia Hannu Himanen noted that the further development of this situation largely depends on the parliamentary elections in Sweden.

We have close bilateral defense cooperation with Sweden, and both countries work closely with NATO. In many ways, the development of events will depend on the outcome of the parliamentary elections in Sweden this fall. It is possible that the leader of the Conservatives will come to power, who has repeatedly declared that he sees Sweden as a member of NATO in the next ten years. But during the election campaign in Finland, the candidates were not ready to discuss how Helsinki would react in the event of such a development. Although Finnish politicians insist that our position does not depend on Swedish decisions, this is a difficult question,
Himanen told the newspaper.

He added that the Finns are "traditionally careful in their comments on foreign policy, but NATO membership remains an opportunity that Finland could use."

Tuomas Forsberg, a professor at the University of Tampere, agreed with him:

Candidates did not want to voice the thesis that Sweden could predetermine the line of Finland in this matter. But the position of Stockholm can really be decisive. Moreover, if Sweden decides to join NATO, it will be a challenge to the Finnish identity: the Finns always perceived themselves as residents of a northern country rather than a Baltic one, and all other Scandinavian countries would thus find themselves in NATO.


According to him, President Niinistö wants to "help improve relations between Russia and the EU," but intends to retain the option of joining NATO "as a political tool - and in the event of both a negative and a positive scenario of developing relations with Moscow."

The pessimistic scenario, according to the president, is if Moscow stops distinguishing between the EU and NATO and begins to perceive the European Union as an enemy. And optimistic is if we could return to the political climate of the early 2000's, when Russia and NATO developed cooperation and saw each other as friends, not enemies,
explained the professor.
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  1. Bouncer
    Bouncer 2 February 2018 12: 18
    17
    That's how they overlaid like a bear in a den
    Around NATO) Without a sanitary cordon))
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 2 February 2018 12: 36
      +7
      These are the finns are being traded! So that Russia throws some kind of a bun to them ... And so they don’t need to pay 2% of GDP!
      1. volodya
        volodya 2 February 2018 12: 42
        +3
        Let the guys come in!
      2. win
        win 2 February 2018 12: 49
        +2
        Finns: An unidentified helicopter violated our border from Russia.
        NATO: Why didn’t they attack? !!!!
        Finns: And then where do we go to drink vodka? drinks
      3. Smurf
        Smurf 2 February 2018 13: 07
        +1
        Stopudovo !! Already someone, but the bourgeois know how to count their benefit.
      4. vlad66
        vlad66 2 February 2018 13: 07
        +6
        Quote: Anarchist
        These are the finns are being traded! To Russia tossed some kind of a bun to them ...

        Where then to go to eat vodka laughing Hello Be Sancho. drinks hi
  2. Angel_and_Demon
    Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 21
    +7
    President Niinistö wants to “help improve relations between Russia and the EU,” but intends to maintain the option of joining NATO “as a political tool - in the case of both a negative and a positive scenario for the development of relations with Moscow.”
    and the priest will not burst from the seat on two chairs?
    1. figwam
      figwam 2 February 2018 12: 29
      +2
      Perhaps the Yankees reminded him that their historical task, the blockade of Leningrad.
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 32
        +5
        Quote: figvam
        their historical task, the blockade of Leningrad.

        which they failed, do you think they’ll try to get better?
        1. figwam
          figwam 2 February 2018 12: 41
          +2
          Quote: Angel_and_Demon

          which they failed, do you think they’ll try to get better?

          Well, if they are promised a territory with forests and lakes, then why not.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 42
            +7
            Quote: figvam
            Well, if they are promised a territory with forests and lakes, then why not.

            and 2 meters deep?
            1. figwam
              figwam 2 February 2018 12: 51
              +2
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon

              and 2 meters deep?

              Exactly. After Finland joins NATO, at such a round of tension with us, they make their historical choice, after which we cannot offer them anything more.
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 53
                +5
                Quote: figvam
                after which we cannot offer them anything more.

                why? and crematorium?
                1. Buskanov
                  Buskanov 3 February 2018 16: 02
                  +1
                  Solntsepek - visiting crematorium laughing
    2. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 2 February 2018 12: 34
      +2
      Rather, it is the practice of technical jumping from chair to chair. They already have experience of such jumps during the WWII period, when they managed to visit the allies of fascist Germany, and at the end of the war - their adversary. As a result, we got off with little blood ...
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 35
        +5
        Can they recall a hut?
        1. Alex-a832
          Alex-a832 2 February 2018 12: 51
          +2
          It seems to me that the hut will not bother them much. But here about who gave them statehood in general - it is worth reminding about this periodically.
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 12: 55
            +4
            Quote: Alex-a832
            But here about who gave them statehood in general - it is worth reminding about this periodically

            or maybe just say that we are the masters of our word? wanted gave, wanted taken laughing
            1. Alex-a832
              Alex-a832 2 February 2018 13: 48
              +1
              Then we will become like the Anglo-Saxons - and this is the road to degradation.
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 2 February 2018 13: 50
                +5
                no, it's just an adequate answer
  3. taiga2018
    taiga2018 2 February 2018 12: 22
    +1
    Well, if you want to be under the gun of the "Iskander ..."
  4. Loess
    Loess 2 February 2018 12: 26
    0
    I understand why Finland is needed for NATO, but I do not understand why NATO is needed for Finland.
    1. pafegosoff
      pafegosoff 2 February 2018 12: 33
      0
      You s. About me. hot Finnish guys! I want to make war! Vyborg to take back, to win Karelia. Everything is so simple: they are nuclear charges in Vyborg and Karelia, Russia is the same in Helsinki and Turku. And then - to the sauna! Enjoyment!
      1. Petr1968
        Petr1968 2 February 2018 12: 46
        +1
        Quote: pafegosoff
        You s. About me. hot Finnish guys! I want to make war! Vyborg to take back, to win Karelia.

        When we created the CSTO, we wanted to fight with whom? Germany and France are fighting with whom?
  5. Northern warrior
    Northern warrior 2 February 2018 12: 27
    +4
    Let them come in if they want to die. I would be the first to hit the spot of GDP if the United States began to transfer its troops to the Finns. Most often the one who hits first wins the fight! These tricksters want to get the pantry of the planet, but must get a radioactive wasteland at home. The past war cost our people too much, so the next war must be fought on the territory of the enemy, including and overseas.
    1. Doubting
      Doubting 2 February 2018 12: 55
      +2
      First ... hee hee. Our everything even to the Turks could not answer, and yet in Turkey there are no bank accounts of his friends.
    2. Petr1968
      Petr1968 2 February 2018 13: 28
      +1
      Quote: Northern warrior
      Let them come in if they want to die. I would be the first to hit the spot of GDP if the United States began to transfer its troops to the Finns

      Let's argue publicly that they will not die and the GDP will not strike)))) Well, people share their thoughts here, and the fat trolls mock ... what little sites are there for trolling? Go to Facebook Troll !!! It is necessary to ban such, gentlemen admins !!!! Do not turn the forum into a garbage can and a nursery of trolls !!!
      1. Northern warrior
        Northern warrior 2 February 2018 15: 20
        +1
        Another supporter of the HPP, who will resolve everything? GDP is the best head of state since the time of Stalin, but his toothless foreign policy will not bring any good. Russia is beaten by all international institutions, various mongrels openly shit our history, culture and the whole people. Such persecution precedes only one thing - war. If you don’t see the obvious, hoping for the skill of Lavrov and Putin, then you will be very disappointed when the Tomahawks and AGM-158 begin to arrive at you. You can’t repeat the mistake on June 22nd, so you should be the first to smack when the enemy is ready to attack. Finns, Germans, Swedes, Balts will rake in full for the desire to grab a piece of “Russian pie”.
        1. Petr1968
          Petr1968 2 February 2018 16: 59
          0
          Quote: Northern warrior
          Russia is beaten by all international institutions, various mongrels openly shit our history, culture and the whole people.

          Whoever is weak will be beaten. The Chinese are not beaten. They trade with the whole world without sanctions. And as for smacking everyone ... it’s necessary to take a break from computer shooters, open the window there, go for a walk)) In Syria, dozens of ours have already been killed by abreks with sticks. the Turks were shot down in a light aircraft .. And you put everything in (or are you about 100 grams?))
          1. Northern warrior
            Northern warrior 2 February 2018 17: 12
            0
            Russia could easily demolish Turkey then, given the enormous firepower of the aerospace forces. Long-range missile-carrying aircraft from the Crimea would have carried out more or less large military facilities.
  6. Basil50
    Basil50 2 February 2018 12: 28
    +4
    After Finland was granted independence, there was almost an intervention with the help of the Swedes and the nationalists seized power, who immediately carried out ethnic cleansing. RUSSIANS were killed regardless of their gender or age. Then came the four official declarations of war to the SOVIET UNION. It was possible to appease the Finns only when they began to be destroyed mercilessly. Even Manerheim was sober and began to ask for peace.
    Apparently the memory of the Finns began to malfunction. NATO is practically the next Reich, only under the control of the United States, apparently the Finns are planning to continue attempts to rebuild * Great Finland * at the expense of RUSSIA.
    That is why neither Finns nor Norwegians plan to increase their territories at the expense of Sweden? For centuries, they sucked out everything that was possible from their neighbors, there should be a sea of ​​complaints. No, only RUSSIA turned out to be something they owe.
  7. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 2 February 2018 12: 28
    +1
    They have already entered into ... since 1917, and it still does. And under the blue swastika in NATO, it looks somehow more harmonious.
  8. Komissar 4K
    Komissar 4K 2 February 2018 12: 39
    +2
    We have a very talented foreign policy! Everything is lowered into the toilet.
  9. Petr1968
    Petr1968 2 February 2018 12: 40
    +1
    Everyone screaming - our Foreign Ministry and Lavrov are the best - HELLO !!!!!
  10. win
    win 2 February 2018 12: 48
    +2
    If we hadn’t demolished the stalls last night,
    today there would be NATO troops! am
  11. HEATHER
    HEATHER 2 February 2018 12: 49
    0
    Duriki. You do not know what Russia is.
  12. win
    win 2 February 2018 12: 54
    +1
    when Russia and NATO developed cooperation

    And let's get into NATO and get out!
    And they are a new member, and we are pleased! laughing
  13. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 2 February 2018 12: 55
    +6
    It can be seen so in the west, "swing the pendulum."
  14. Vard
    Vard 2 February 2018 12: 57
    0
    Will they enter? And we will close their drunken excursions to St. Petersburg ... Let's see how quickly they jump back ...
  15. Whisper
    Whisper 2 February 2018 13: 24
    +1
    Finns sleep and see Karelia, their ancestors are there, they go there to the graves. They have a blood connection there, with these lands.
    If this story is a little greased, then NATO may not be so far from life.

    But if this starts to happen, I would act. We have such an underbelly here, neither military units nor distances to you. Nothing! Well, I think the Finns are not stupid. They are not Estonians or Latvians.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 2 February 2018 15: 02
      0
      Quote: Sheptun
      Finns sleep and see Karelia, their ancestors are there, they go there to the graves. They have a blood connection there, with these lands.

      How does this relate to joining NATO?
      1. albert
        albert 2 February 2018 18: 13
        +1
        Quote: Petr1968
        How does this relate to joining NATO?

        How? In the event of a NATO victory over Russia, they want Karelia to participate in this war. If the Swedes are in their press, they start to draw a note about "claims to Ingermanland," God himself ordered the Finns to fight with us.
  16. Berkut24
    Berkut24 2 February 2018 14: 10
    +2
    The pessimistic scenario, according to the president, is if Moscow ceases to distinguish between the EU and NATO and begins to perceive the EU as an enemy.

    And what, in fact, is the difference? For a collective NATO, Russia is a military enemy. For the collective EU, judging by unanimous sanctions, Russia is an economic and political enemy. Both are totally controlled by the States. What is the difference? That one hand is right and the other is left?
  17. APASUS
    APASUS 2 February 2018 15: 42
    +1
    If nothing has changed in the legislation of Finland, then Finns should decide such decisive changes as joining military unions only in a referendum. The Finns were able to really create a bridge between Russia and the EU and have a good idea, any scandal with Russia immediately affects the country's economy, so that doubts are great. Although judging by the Finnish press, Americans are gradually increasing the degree of attack on the minds of citizens
    1. albert
      albert 2 February 2018 18: 14
      0
      Since the Finns have signed some kind of agreement with NATO, their neutrality is already a big question.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 2 February 2018 18: 32
        +1
        Quote: albert
        Since the Finns have signed some kind of agreement with NATO, their neutrality is already a big question.

        Training of military personnel, purchase of weapons, joint maneuvers do not violate the country's neutral status
  18. Slovak
    Slovak 2 February 2018 22: 10
    0
    Quote: Anarchist
    These are the finns are being traded! So that Russia throws some kind of a bun to them ... And so they don’t need to pay 2% of GDP!

    They can pick up a bun.
  19. Whisper
    Whisper 3 February 2018 00: 19
    0
    Quote: Petr1968
    Quote: Sheptun
    Finns sleep and see Karelia, their ancestors are there, they go there to the graves. They have a blood connection there, with these lands.

    How does this relate to joining NATO?


    Maybe this time they will get some of their pie. Everyone wants freebies!
  20. tosha.chuhontzev
    tosha.chuhontzev 3 February 2018 04: 40
    0
    In fact, all this Nata is a muddy pond for laundering grandmas. So some Finnish financial institutions decided to catch the little fish in troubled waters. But there is one more reason. The Finns are literally driven into NATO, fearing that Finland will become too close to Russia. What's next? And this whole performance will end with the release of our troops on the banks of the Vistula and Oder.
  21. Dmitry Tantsyura
    Dmitry Tantsyura 6 February 2018 22: 43
    0
    after the press proposed by him, "Organizers of the United Nations" from NATO shreds in the back streets will go.