Russian reserve fund has ceased to exist

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Since February 1, the Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation officially ceased to exist - exactly 10 years after its creation, reports RIA News.





According to the amendments to the Budget Code, the article on the Reserve Fund is no longer valid, and references to it are excluded from other existing articles of the law.

In fact, the specified fund has not existed for a month already: “The Ministry of Finance, as planned, spent the last trillion rubles from this fund at the end of 2017, the balance on its accounts on January 1 was zeroed.”

Now, the ministry will send additional oil and gas revenues to the National Wealth Fund (NWF), and from it, according to the budget rule, the budget deficit will be financed in case of a fall in oil and gas revenues.

In 2004, the Stabilization Fund was established in the Russian Federation, and 1 in February, 2008 was divided into the National Welfare Fund and the Reserve Fund. According to experts, the accumulated reserves helped Russia not only to survive the global crisis of 2008, without serious social and financial upheavals, but also helped out more than once in subsequent years.

According to the Ministry of Finance, "as of 1 in January of 2018, the volume of the National Wealth Fund amounted to 3,753 trillion rubles, which is equivalent to 65,15 billion dollars." It is planned that this year the NWF will replenish with the currency that the Ministry of Finance bought on the market as part of its operations for 2017 a year, with 829,2 billion rubles.

According to the budget law for 2018-2020 years, this year will be the last year when the budget deficit will be financed from the reserves. At the same time, the head of the Ministry of Finance, Anton Siluanov, stated that while maintaining a favorable market situation (that is, if oil prices remain at current levels) in 2018, his department will not only refuse to spend the NWF, but also be able to replenish it with 3% of GDP.
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  1. +23
    1 February 2018 08: 48
    Russian reserve fund has ceased to exist
    that is: "there is no money, but you ...." somewhere I already heard it ... what
    1. +55
      1 February 2018 08: 51
      In fact, it’s just that the fund began to be called differently. Learn to read the full news.
      1. +2
        1 February 2018 08: 58
        In fact, the NWF has long existed.
        The National Welfare Fund of Russia (NWF) was formed on February 1, 2008
        1. +10
          1 February 2018 09: 00
          What is the difference when it is created? If the money went to one fund, then it was liquidated, and then the money went to another fund - for this money this fund is new.
          1. +15
            1 February 2018 09: 07
            Quote: Muvka
            and then the money went to another fund

            They didn’t come up with anything ... A trading network (a real estate office, a credit and financial organization, a company providing all kinds of services, a commercial bank) has been operating for 5-10 years ... then again ... and already in a new place with a new name. And suckers (naive citizens-users) in their interests ... crying
            1. +8
              1 February 2018 09: 42
              And suckers to increase profits!
            2. +9
              1 February 2018 09: 46
              They didn’t come up with anything ... A trading network (a real estate office, a credit and financial organization, a company providing all kinds of services, a commercial bank) has been operating for 5-10 years ... then again ... and already in a new place with a new name. And suckers (naive citizens-users) in their interests ... crying

              Yes, but the fact is that we are all here, “naive” citizens, so to speak, not only would have lost something from uniting the goals of the receipt of excess income from NHSs into a single fund, but we were not especially in our interests before. Moreover, comparing what reserves have been spent in the last few years with how the welfare of the population has changed by class. The winners in this period were only those who were already not particularly poor (to put it mildly). Most of the country's population was left with nothing.
            3. +7
              1 February 2018 09: 55
              Quote: Esoteric
              They didn’t come up with anything new ...

              Could you explain how the situation with the Reserve, National Security and other funds is similar to that described above.
              Thank you Yes
            4. +10
              1 February 2018 11: 01
              Quote: Esoteric
              They didn’t come up with anything ... A trading network (a real estate office, a credit and financial organization, a company providing all kinds of services, a commercial bank) has been operating for 5-10 years ... then again ... and already in a new place with a new name. And suckers (naive citizens-users) in their interests ...

              The fact is that these, as you put it, “suckers,” until 2004 had no funds at all. Neither the Stabilization, nor the Reserve and National revealed on its basis. Everyone had only a joint debt to the IMF and WB inherited from the "fat" 90s accumulated by Gaidar "reformers". Since 2000, the debts have been repaid ahead of schedule and put a little money to the funds, which contributed to “citizens with their own interests” to survive the crisis of 2008 almost painlessly, and even to put their teeth on the shelf in the current crisis. Now they are also discussing the topic of combining a pension fund and a social insurance fund, the maintenance of which costs the treasury 143 billion rubles a year. This is money that can be saved on maintenance and sent to other needs, which is reasonable. But even in this case, you will tear your hair because of the "squandering" of the good of the people, looking for tricky schemes.
          2. +6
            1 February 2018 09: 55
            There were two egg capsules, one you put off for retirement, and the second black day. With taxation you went to a rainy day. But then one of the egg pods was empty, and you began to lay down in another and take money from it.
            1. +4
              1 February 2018 10: 19
              And I see it like this - A source of foreign currency funds appeared, the government was not able to absorb them, for example, for the development of heavy industry, etc., and decided to save these funds in the Reserve Fund. So to speak - for plugging holes. And the holes shut up. In the end, the source dried up, but the holes, as usual, remained and the remains of the fund were used up to plug them. Here is the foundation and "ordered to live long." And than now the government will plug holes even the Darkest hardly knows. These are sad things, my friends. But, as they say, we are Pskoskie, we will break through! Is not it?
              1. +2
                1 February 2018 13: 14
                And I see it like this - A source of foreign exchange funds appeared, the government was not able to absorb them, for example, to develop heavy industry, etc., and the Government decided and did not set such tasks. They (the government) did not set for development.
                1. +1
                  1 February 2018 14: 16
                  Quote: asiat_61
                  The government did not set such tasks. They (the government) did not set for development.

                  It's not that hard to argue with you. It is not possible to argue with you on this issue.
                  The trouble is that the government then “put” the Darkest. (?) Or was it put in conditions in which it could not influence the formation of the government? It cannot be that the Darkest did not see that the government, voluntarily or involuntarily, but could not cope with its duties. And at the same time he praises the government. What does it mean? Is he with them? Or maybe in the circumstances in another way? This is a great mystery not accessible to us. We can only guess. Is it possible that Vissarionovich’s feat is to carry out educational program at the same time, to develop science, agriculture, to carry out industrialization, etc., etc., etc., and no one can repeat this under more difficult conditions than the current ones?
          3. +11
            1 February 2018 10: 12
            Quote: Muvka
            What is the difference when it is created? If the money went to one fund, then it was liquidated, and then the money went to another fund - for this money this fund is new.

            The difference is that one fund was completely emptied, and in another, 10% of the reserves of 2012 remained. Which means, as soon as the elections are held, our reserves will run out.
      2. +9
        1 February 2018 09: 06
        Quote: Muvka
        In fact, it’s just that the fund began to be called differently. Learn to read the full news.

        You will still teach me why "rebranding" is being done ... yeah ... laughing
        1. +4
          1 February 2018 09: 22
          I will teach you until you learn to read. Where in the news says: "no money"?
          1. +11
            1 February 2018 09: 28
            Quote: Muvka
            I will teach you until you learn to read. Where in the news says: "no money"?

            Medvedev did not clearly tell you? or has the situation changed with timing? laughing
      3. +5
        1 February 2018 09: 27
        I read this one:
        In fact, the specified fund has not existed for a month already: “The Ministry of Finance, as planned, spent the last trillion rubles from this fund at the end of 2017, the balance on its accounts on January 1 was zeroed.”
      4. +9
        1 February 2018 09: 30
        Quote: Muvka
        In fact, it’s just that the fund began to be called differently

        wassat fool
        Quote: Muvka
        Learn Read the full news.

        In 2004, the Stabilization Fund was created in the Russian Federation, and on February 1, 2008 it was divided into the National Welfare Fund and the Reserve Fund ........ and now there simply hasn’t become a reserve fund ... and the National Welfare Fund as it was and was called so and remained! fool
        1. +8
          1 February 2018 10: 00
          Quote: Burbon
          fool

          Exactly.
          It doesn't matter how many pockets you have and what they are called. It is important how much money is in them.
          If you think about it, then servicing one fund (in theory) is cheaper for the state than ten two wink
          1. +4
            1 February 2018 11: 34
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            It doesn't matter how many pockets you have and what they are called. It is important how much money is in them.
            If you think about it, then servicing one fund (in theory) is cheaper for the state than a dozen or two

            It may be so, but I will say for myself that until the fall of 2008 I had more money and they lay in different places, that is, I had several funds laughing And now, especially after 14 years, there is not much money and they are placed in one fund, and even that is not always filled. Yes
            1. +4
              1 February 2018 11: 52
              Quote: activator
              I will say for myself

              About personal and state wool - to remind? wink
              Quote: activator
              now especially after 14 years there is not much money and they are placed in one fund, and even that is not always filled

              I sympathize. Help, you understand, I can’t request
          2. 0
            1 February 2018 12: 34
            There is also a different storage method. The reserve was liquidated purposefully, because it was vulnerable to our worst partners.
          3. 0
            1 February 2018 20: 25
            Golovan Jack Today, 10:00 We’ll heal better than before! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray! fellow wassat what sad belay
            1. +4
              1 February 2018 20: 33
              Quote: GradusHuK
              Golovan Jack Today, 10:00 We’ll heal better than before! Hooray! Hooray! Hooray!

              You are not sick, an hour? Bugs you ... nipadetski request
      5. +4
        1 February 2018 09: 55
        In early December 2017, it was reported that the funds of the Russian Reserve Fund would be exhausted by the end of the year. As of November 1, its volume amounted to 975,5 billion rubles, the size of the National Welfare Fund - 4,014 trillion rubles (69,36 billion dollars).
        The Russian Reserve Fund ceased to exist on January 1, 2018. Now he joins the National Welfare Fund (NWF).
        In short, the grandmother ran out and he ceased to exist
    2. +10
      1 February 2018 09: 03
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      that is: "there is no money, but you ...." somewhere I already heard it ...

      That is, Andrei Yuryevich was the Reserve Fund and the National Welfare Fund, and now they simply all united again. And that’s all.
      Now the ministry will send additional oil and gas revenues to the National Welfare Fund (NWF)

      That is, if previously sent to the Reserve, now they will be in the NWF. hi
      1. +16
        1 February 2018 09: 10
        Quote: vlad66
        and now they just all united again. And that’s all.

        yes yes yes ... I’m old, and I’m not being fooled into "chaff." -there, according to the laws of the genre, banknotes, in an unknown quantity, were "dissolved". I have been living for a long time, and such "feints" are clearer than clear.
        1. +9
          1 February 2018 09: 13
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Yes, yes ... I'm old, and I’m not being fooled by the “chaff”.

          Come on Yurievich, he is old laughing the soul is always young. wink Best regards hi
          1. +5
            1 February 2018 09: 23
            Quote: vlad66
            the soul is always young.

            well, at least she always has one weight, 2,5 (+ -) grams .. (they say "scientists"). it means it’s not getting old. wink hi
      2. +14
        1 February 2018 09: 46
        Quote: vlad66
        That is, Andrei Yuryevich was the Reserve Fund and the National Welfare Fund, and now they simply all united again. And that’s all.

        Quote: vlad66
        That is, if previously sent to the Reserve, now they will be in the NWF.

        Are you deliberately misleading people? From your comment you can conclude that the funds of the first fund were transferred to the second. But this is not so. Nothing combined. In the reserve fund on the balance sheet "0".
        And the NWF is a pension fund. And now, it turns out, pensioners will pay the budget deficit. I see no reason for joy.
        1. 0
          1 February 2018 12: 37
          Quote: True
          And the NWF is a pension fund. And now, it turns out, pensioners will pay the budget deficit. I see no reason for joy.

          Crooked?
    3. 0
      1 February 2018 09: 26
      that is: "there is no money, but you ...." somewhere I already heard it ... what

      This is only one fund, we have several in our country. So there is a lot of money, do not panic. hi
      1. +3
        1 February 2018 09: 30
        Quote: RASKAT
        So there is a lot of money, do not panic.

        I love logic ....
    4. 0
      1 February 2018 09: 56
      Andrei, read carefully.
      1. The objectives of the fund
      2. NWF
      1. +4
        1 February 2018 10: 44
        Quote: Yarr_Arr
        Andrei, read carefully.
        1. The objectives of the fund
        2. NWF

        if you are to me, believe BEGAN, so what? a declaration of intent is not a guide to action. For my life, which I have not heard enough from the authorities ... everything is empty, there are always excuses: sanctions, recession, stagnation, inflation - for the mortal, it means one thing: live and die what was just give what you have first ...
        1. 0
          1 February 2018 12: 53
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          I’m for my life, which I just haven’t heard from the authorities ... everything is empty, there are always excuses: sanctions, recession, stagnation, inflation - for the mortal it means one thing: live and die what was, just give what you have first .. .

          Classics, adnaka. "Cain's Confession" is called.
    5. +9
      1 February 2018 10: 09
      Money left 10% of reserves in 2012. In the economy with us. And here on the site with foam at the mouth they proved to me that the “breakthrough” we are no longer a commodity economy.
      1. +1
        1 February 2018 23: 24
        Quote: Svarog
        And here on the site with foam at the mouth they proved to me that the “breakthrough” we are no longer a commodity economy.

        Let's think it over. Profit from oil prices over $ 40 went to the stabilization fund. This money is spent. The fund had money not raw, right?)))))
    6. +1
      1 February 2018 10: 50
      Did you really hear that? Just like everyone says ?! Well, as much as you can! I am for telling the truth.
    7. 0
      1 February 2018 18: 57
      How are you not in the arc ..... Just to blurt out?
      1. +1
        2 February 2018 11: 55
        Are you talking to me? so it was to the very first phrase, but crept away right here.
  2. +19
    1 February 2018 08: 48
    We do not know exactly where the additional oil and gas revenues are going, but we know more and more that the number of Russian oligarchs every year.
    1. +9
      1 February 2018 09: 30
      How is this unknown? And we are re-equipping the army, and the social network is moving forward? Do we buy gold? Have you settled your debts? Etc. etc. Somehow you need to monitor the situation, and not to talk with slogans!
      1. +3
        1 February 2018 10: 54
        Quote: klaus16
        and social is moving forward?

        Stop! more from THIS place!
        1. +2
          1 February 2018 11: 07
          Stop! more from THIS place!


          Does the state give little? need more? Do you have to pay less taxes?

          Take out the pan, soon you’ll go to demand from the authorities. Dress the main T-shirt with the inscription of the USSR

  3. +2
    1 February 2018 08: 48
    Someone this news can cause panic and burning
    1. +6
      1 February 2018 08: 52
      Yeah, especially if you don’t get to the bottom of it.
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 09: 24
        All these funds were created in order to somehow circumvent the anti-state policy of the Central Bank, which under the law should not do anything to the state and which is prohibited to lend to state programs.
  4. +5
    1 February 2018 08: 49
    Now, the ministry will send additional oil and gas revenues to the National Wealth Fund (NWF), and from it, according to the budget rule, the budget deficit will be financed in case of a fall in oil and gas revenues.
    change of sign, again new posts will have to be washed recourse
    1. +6
      1 February 2018 08: 58
      Just someone's relative issues all kinds of tablets. hi
      1. +5
        1 February 2018 09: 00
        ahhh, just business and nothing personal?
        1. +4
          1 February 2018 09: 10
          And it’s very profitable. Seals, letterheads, signs, etc.
          1. +6
            1 February 2018 09: 12
            and everything is legal. However request
          2. +8
            1 February 2018 09: 22
            Quote: cniza
            And it’s very profitable. Seals, letterheads, signs, etc.

            Vitya Zdrav Be drinks hi I hope there will be no prints, forms, signs from the transition. laughing hi
            1. +1
              1 February 2018 09: 25
              Greetings Vlad! hi drinks it’s a “candle factory” of some kind close to the average official.
              1. +7
                1 February 2018 09: 30
                Quote: cniza
                it’s a “candle factory” of some kind close to the average official

                Candle factory is holy laughing especially for bureaucrats. Yes
          3. +4
            1 February 2018 10: 00
            Quote: cniza
            And it’s very profitable. Seals, letterheads, signs, etc.

            quite right!
            According to the statement of A. Khinshtein made at a meeting of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption, on new forms, plates, badges, certificates, badges, and other attributes, to be replaced after renaming the police to the police, was spent about 1 billion 125 thousand rubles.
            A simple calculation shows that the cost of each letter is 562 million rubles.
            1. +2
              1 February 2018 11: 09
              A simple calculation shows that the cost of each letter is 562 million rubles.


              probably hard to live with such a smart head.

              And you are not satisfied with the government?

              I believe that if such characters survive with such a mentality - the glory of the state.

              1. +2
                1 February 2018 12: 15
                Quote: allaykbar
                probably hard to live with such a smart head.


                Is this about Hinstein?
                If about me, thanks for the compliment - easy. “We’ll come up with something,” as one acquaintance once said.
                And come up with!
                "Goal for the invention of cunning"
            2. +1
              1 February 2018 13: 00
              Quote: Overlock
              to be replaced after renaming the police to the police, about 1 billion 125 thousand rubles were spent.
              A simple calculation shows that the cost of each letter is 562 million rubles.

              1000000125000 / 562000000 = 1779.35965302491103202846
              97508897
              Ap chom, ballesky ?!
              1. +2
                1 February 2018 13: 04
                Can we read? Painful! Or a lot of letters?
                Quote: Overlock

                According to the statement of A. Khinshtein made at a meeting of the State Duma Committee on Security and Anti-Corruption

                he has a better calculator than yours
                1. +1
                  1 February 2018 13: 11
                  Quote: Overlock
                  Painful!

                  Do not write a lot of letters when you carry nonsense to the masses. I suspect that the balezny did not bother to read the copy, and even more so, protect half a billion letters.
                  What is the physical meaning of the sacred number 1779 when transferring police to the police? It is not Hinstein who writes, but you. And the bumps are for you.
                  1. 0
                    1 February 2018 21: 12
                    Quote: sogdy
                    I suspect that the balezny did not bother to read the copy, and even more so, protect half a billion letters.

                    I read it, and you. Painful, an enema with broken glass. Open the search engine and hammer in the desired. We find. read, analyze, write. I hope this does not overexert the contents of the skull
                    1. 0
                      2 February 2018 11: 22
                      Quote: Overlock
                      We find. read, analyze, write.

                      What nonsense to look for? And to post ?! So shta, we don’t have to, whiskers.
    2. 0
      1 February 2018 09: 09
      Quote: Angel_and_Demon
      change of sign, again new posts will have to be washed

      If the reserve fund is liquidated, then there is less than one sign, but the officials from that fund will not remain without work.
      1. +7
        1 February 2018 09: 11
        Quote: Piramidon
        and officials from that fund will not be left without work.

        Well, who would doubt it - they are the elite of thought and knowledge
    3. 0
      1 February 2018 19: 04
      But why?! There were teams of fund managers, it will become one .... For me it’s not bad.
  5. +4
    1 February 2018 08: 49
    Well, the reserve fund came in handy. There was no 1998 at least.
    And then all sorts of "economists" from the 50s argued what a stupid government that saves money for a rainy day) ahah) komunyaki are always the smartest, yeah)
    1. +15
      1 February 2018 08: 52
      How many crises were there in the USSR from 50 to 80 years-capital?
      1. +2
        1 February 2018 09: 16
        Quote: Sergey Fomenko
        Well, the reserve fund came in handy.

        Well yes. How much have everyone forgiven partners? We forgive you, because we have a small egg ...
        1. 0
          1 February 2018 23: 33
          Quote: BecmepH
          Quote: Sergey Fomenko
          Well, the reserve fund came in handy.

          Well yes. How much have everyone forgiven partners? We forgive you, because we have a small egg ...

          Well, they may have forgiven the money, all the same, they will be worn out to give .. Some have taken contracts for the development of minerals, whoever has them, of course.
          Another question: who gave these insolvent blacks a loan))? komunyaki again))
          1. 0
            2 February 2018 05: 38
            Quote: Lacoste
            Another question: who gave these insolvent blacks a loan))? komunyaki again))

            Aren't you tired of blaming everything on the komunyak?
            Why is the current government better than komunyak? AND? There are the same komunyaki, only repainted. Debts for the USSR were given even to those who have long been gone (pieces from Yugoslavia) and who did not ask. This is normal?
            1. 0
              2 February 2018 22: 41
              Quote: BecmepH
              Quote: Lacoste
              Another question: who gave these insolvent blacks a loan))? komunyaki again))

              Aren't you tired of blaming everything on the komunyak?
              Why is the current government better than komunyak? AND? There are the same komunyaki, only repainted. Debts for the USSR were given even to those who have long been gone (pieces from Yugoslavia) and who did not ask. This is normal?

              Well, that means that the current government is rotten communes who have drunk the Soviet Union, only softer in terms of repression, there is no execution, but there is a time limit if you dare to call yourself a Russian public, you’ll pass for Natsik, some kind of Komunyak international) well and like it?
              And where did they repay their debts? We kind of talked about forgiving debts to blacks
              It is advisable to repay your debts - this is a sign of good form and upbringing.
      2. +3
        1 February 2018 10: 56
        But you don’t know what the workers wanted in Novocherkassk in the 62nd year? They just wanted to eat! Well, of course, there was no crisis! Yes?
        1. +4
          1 February 2018 11: 21
          Quote: housewife
          workers in Novocherkassk in the 62nd year? Of course, there was no crisis!

          I have preserved, as a keepsake, two coupons for sugar, Leningrad, 1989. And somewhere there was a “customer card” (for locals), such a green one, Leningrad, 1990.
          1. +2
            1 February 2018 11: 25
            Coupons, coupons ... Somewhere in my box, too, are lying around. Well, the friend above called "until the 80th year." Like - they lived great!
        2. 0
          1 February 2018 13: 05
          Quote: housewife
          But you don’t know what the workers wanted in Novocherkassk in the 62nd year?

          Are you from Novocherkassk? Is the prison still standing?
          When they want to eat, prisons do not smash. So shta tales sideways.
          1. +1
            2 February 2018 11: 56
            who cares where i come from. I am from a working family. What, people lived in different cities in different ways?
            1. 0
              4 February 2018 11: 18
              Quote: housewife
              who cares where i come from.

              Then do not repeat other people's tales.
              1. +1
                4 February 2018 12: 00
                I don’t think that my dad told me a fairy tale back in the 70s. People without newspapers knew everything. Do you only eat teleinformation? Or rummaging through the archives? Or were in place at that time?
                1. 0
                  4 February 2018 13: 11
                  Quote: housewife
                  my dad told me a fairy tale back in the 70s. People without newspapers knew everything. Do you only eat teleinformation?

                  Is your dad a party? Witness?
                  Recently, the Witnesses described the Third (!) Soviet-Finnish War in 1918 (!!!) in Wiki.
                  So sho? And without any newspapers! For the newspapers of those times write something completely different.

                  What prevents you from entering the FSB department, agreeing to their terms of non-disclosure and receiving information? What bulkheads of those times danced there, what authority did you try to smear? And yet, how many were there.

                  It's funny that they did not tell you about Novokuznetsk and Chimkent. There was a serious boil. And, again, pure criminality.

                  As for the TV-this is a fad of Ukrainians.
                  1. +1
                    4 February 2018 16: 17
                    are you funny !!! Oh you...
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      4. 0
        1 February 2018 23: 30
        Quote: Sergey Fomenko
        How many crises were there in the USSR from 50 to 80 years-capital?

        not about the USSR,
    2. +12
      1 February 2018 09: 20
      I’m not a commie, and therefore not the smartest, but remind anyone where, in addition to the rehabilitation of large commercial banks, they took money from this fund? Banks quickly bought currency with that money and transferred it to foreign accounts. Not a ruble came to industry, I only remember that.
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 09: 23
        Give account numbers. Since you all know.
        1. +5
          1 February 2018 10: 19
          Do you have a clearance? Bring a certificate from the 1st department.
    3. +9
      1 February 2018 10: 06
      Quote: Lacoste
      And then all sorts of "economists" from the 50s argued what a stupid government that saves money for a rainy day) ahah) komunyaki are always the smartest, yeah)

      Try to challenge the idea: the more money the government withdraws from the economy (reserve fund), the faster it brings a rainy day!
      You can save money when this money is enough in the economy. And if the economy is sick and in dire need of money, and the industry needs modernization and investment, then withdrawing money from a bleeding economy is the wrong decision.
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 13: 22
        Nicho that the state economy and the private economy - to say two big differences?
        There is "enough money" in the state economy, and private is interesting only to private owners, for which they fought so bravely.
        There are stronger and more specific expressions, but the essence remains the same - they fought for independence from the state economy, and became not interesting, like that gopher.
      2. +1
        2 February 2018 22: 48
        Quote: Stas157
        Quote: Lacoste
        And then all sorts of "economists" from the 50s argued what a stupid government that saves money for a rainy day) ahah) komunyaki are always the smartest, yeah)

        Try to challenge the idea: the more money the government withdraws from the economy (reserve fund), the faster it brings a rainy day!
        You can save money when this money is enough in the economy. And if the economy is sick and in dire need of money, and the industry needs modernization and investment, then withdrawing money from a bleeding economy is the wrong decision.

        What are you carrying? if not for the reserve fund - would there be a default, as in 98, remember?
        The default was due to the fact that there was no money for a rainy day. And now there is, the West was trying to bring down the Russian economy as it was then, then it worked out - now not. What are you unhappy with?
  6. +1
    1 February 2018 08: 50
    this year will be the last when the budget deficit will be financed from reserves

    Funny, funny ... Let's see how it goes ... An oil industry is unlikely to fall below the baseboard - then everything will be more or less ...
    1. +9
      1 February 2018 09: 47
      Wherever the oil industry falls, we will pay extra for gas!
      1. +4
        1 February 2018 09: 55
        Quote: johnik
        Wherever the oil industry falls, we will pay extra for gas!
        said it suddenly and bluntly good
        ps We always pay extra to the budget when there is not enough money to try to feed half the world lol
    2. +6
      1 February 2018 09: 56
      In 2000, oil was worth $ 30, $ 1 - 30 rubles. In 2018, oil - $ 69, $ 1 - 56 rubles. At the same time, we are told that the dollar has fallen and America is soon kirdyk.
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 13: 29
        Quote: Bosch
        In 2000, oil was worth $ 30, $ 1 - 30 rubles. In 2018, oil - $ 69, $ 1 - 56 rubles.

        It's simple - you take a pack of dollars and buy a "small candle factory" - acting. And then share the information. Or keep quiet.
  7. +10
    1 February 2018 08: 50
    Great policy continues. Money intended to support the Russian economy supported the US economy.
    The logical question is - what has changed now?
    1. +5
      1 February 2018 09: 03
      And let's see. Yield on US bonds has grown! Ours per year remove from Americans up to 3 mln greens per year. Next - look at their behavior. Gold reserves in something to keep? Eurobonds are much worse. Gold - buy as much as we can. Well, not to keep them in paper?
      1. +12
        1 February 2018 09: 18
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Gold reserves in something to keep? Eurobonds are much worse. Gold - buy as much as we can. Well, not to keep them in paper?

        Or can industry develop with this money?
        1. +1
          1 February 2018 09: 25
          in order for industry to develop, it is necessary for industry to produce competitive products, otherwise all new money will be used to subsidize those new industrial production.
          1. +8
            1 February 2018 09: 50
            Quote: just explo
            in order for industry to develop, it is necessary for industry to produce competitive products, otherwise all new money will be used to subsidize those new industrial production.

            To produce competitive products, you need to invest in science, which develops these competitive products.
            1. 0
              1 February 2018 13: 42
              Quote: Stirbjorn
              To produce competitive products, you need to invest in science, which develops these competitive products.

              Oh how! Knock out in gold and show to students! And in a nasty voice to ask: "So what is the author wrong about?"

              Science (!) Does not create products, and does not develop. This is done by technologists. Which are now fewer than semi-scientific workers. Orders of magnitude less. But it should be the other way around.
              1. +2
                1 February 2018 14: 05
                Quote: sogdy
                Science (!) Does not create products, and does not develop. This is done by technologists.

                What?!?! - Develop a designer, for that matter, and technologists organize the production process
                1. 0
                  1 February 2018 15: 15
                  Quote: Stirbjorn
                  What?!?! - Develop a designer

                  No, daragoy. Constructor (s?) Implement technical solutions.
                  And the technical process at the level of support (not even implementation) is carried out by engineers, who by mistake are called specialists of the technical department. Vashcheta. this is “technology”, even if the technical department is called technological. These are the basics of the organization of production. And it does not depend on small-town naming - no one can perform other functions at their level - for lack of an application object.
                  When “technologists in production” appeared at the end of the 20s — from the supply of NOTs — they were singular (the chief technologist) in the department (the department of the Chief technologist), with a supervision function. The functionality has not changed, because there is nothing to change - it either exercises supervision, or production falls apart, or supervision draws a third from the activists.
                  And the "shop floor organization" is organized by the shop structures - shop managers, foremen, dispatchers and the technical composition of the shop management (if there is one). According to instructions and available knowledge. Workers carry out the production process on existing and missing equipment - whatever it may be.

                  I’m sorry, but this sacred knowledge is included in the discharge requirements of a turner of the 3rd category.
                  1. 0
                    1 February 2018 16: 09
                    Quote: sogdy
                    Constructor (s?) Implement technical solutions.

                    What is the contradiction? In fact, they are developing new products in accordance with the assignment ... everything below is some kind of chewing gum, a mixture of certain definitions with an attempt to trolling ...
                    1. 0
                      2 February 2018 11: 44
                      Quote: Stirbjorn
                      What is the contradiction? In fact, they are developing new products in accordance with the assignment

                      Quote: sogdy
                      Science (!) Does not create products, and does not develop. This is done by technologists.

                      Quote: sogdy
                      Constructor (s?) Implement technical solutions.

                      The designer will not be able to develop. For knowledge of the technologies being implemented is an option that current ones are not taught at all, and not all and not everywhere before.
                      Quote: Stirbjorn
                      everything below is some kind of chewing gum, a mixture of certain definitions with an attempt to trolling ...

                      Congratulations! You did not pass the general theory to the first working rank (that is, allowing you to work independently in a fixed workplace).
                      Then what are you trying to talk about? About personal attitude? Does anyone need it?
          2. +2
            1 February 2018 10: 03
            Quote: just explo
            it is necessary that industry produces competitive products
            Sanctions are designed to prevent this, reducing its competitiveness in markets associated with the United States and the Fed. Targeted subsidies are likely to be. Well, if there is a monitoring of their effectiveness.
          3. +2
            1 February 2018 15: 14
            it is necessary that industry produces competitive products
            you read such a comment and understand that the time machine exists. Are you here straight from the 80s or slept lethargic sleep? We were told about competition while the Union had to be destroyed, just as the Union did not, so they forgot about competition.
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        3. +1
          1 February 2018 13: 33
          Quote: BecmepH
          Or can industry develop with this money?

          So for God’s sake - a business plan, protection, credit - and develop.
          Already figured out what you will develop? Where, by whom and by what?
        4. +1
          1 February 2018 19: 15
          Will you buy machines for plants abroad in rubles ??? You can buy everything for striped debt papers. Even sanctions will not affect ...
      2. +3
        1 February 2018 09: 32
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Yield on US bonds has grown! Ours per year remove from Americans up to 3 mln greens per year.

        Just the opposite! Americans are given money at 1-2% per annum. This money is stupidly invested in Central Bank deposits up to 9%. The difference is in whose pocket? You did not offer to take a loan at 2% and make a deposit of at least 3% ??? Yeah ...
        1. +1
          4 February 2018 11: 41
          Quote: Genry
          Americans are given money at 1-2% per annum. This money is stupidly invested in Central Bank deposits up to 9%.

          Real American Bank Western Union. Go ahead, get at 1-2% per annum.
          Real American Bank Alfa Bank. ...
          1. 0
            4 February 2018 17: 14
            Quote: sogdy
            Western Union Bank

            Is it a bank? Payment system...

            Quote: sogdy
            Real American Bank Alfa Bank. ...

            In my opinion, you haven’t "tasted" what this is about ...
            It was said about the robbery of the Russian state through the Central Bank, to which he indulges.
            1. +4
              4 February 2018 17: 23
              Quote: Genry
              It was said about the robbery of the Russian state through the Central Bank, to which he indulges

              Well, well ...
              Quote: Genry
              Americans are given money at 1-2% per annum

              This is about Treasure, I see. Let us suppose.
              Quote: Genry
              This money is stupidly invested in Central Bank deposits up to 9%

              What is this money? You, money, have already given them to Amerts at 1-2% ...
              Quote: Genry
              The difference is in whose pocket?

              The difference is between what and with what, sickly?
              You are ... slurred. As, however, and usually.
              1. 0
                4 February 2018 19: 31
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                What is this money? You, money, have already given them to Amerts at 1-2% ...

                Everyone understands, only you have problems ...
                You gave the Americans at 1%, they invested this money back into the Central Bank up to 9% .... Who is in profit? This is a collection of tribute in which the Central Bank of Russia participates.
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                The difference is between what and with what, sickly?

                This is your disease. And you can’t understand anymore. Where you are being cheated for you is incomprehensible ...
                1. +4
                  4 February 2018 19: 42
                  Quote: Genry
                  You gave the Americans at 1% they invested this money back in the Central Bank up to 9%

                  Ahem ... cool ... but how are they? "invested back"please explain, plz?
                  Yes not invested somewhere, namely in the Central Bank?
                  Quote: Genry
                  Is it your disease

                  This has not yet been proven.
                  But the fact that you, um, is somewhat tongue-tied, unfortunately does not need proof request
                  1. 0
                    4 February 2018 20: 17
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    and how is it that they so "back invested", explain, plz?

                    9% this was a year ago. Now 6,75% per annum per night.
                    http://www.cbr.ru/hd_base/deposit_base/
                    1. +4
                      4 February 2018 21: 25
                      Quote: Genry
                      9% this was a year ago. Now 6,75% per annum per night

                      Off topic answer. Do not understand, or knowingly, I wonder?
                      Once again, the question is:
                      How did the Americans earn the proceeds from their treasure funds deposited with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?
                      Waiting for an answer on this one question. Eagerly Yes
                      1. 0
                        4 February 2018 22: 04
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        How did the Americans earn the proceeds from their treasure money deposited with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?

                        Or maybe I can explain to you where the children come from?
                        Money always goes where it is more profitable. In which other bank can you place such an amount and make a big profit? And why does the Central Bank not want to lower the base discount rate?
                        You obviously don’t have enough ... often to ask yourself the key question: "Who benefits from this?"

                        And by the way, about the questions ....
                        Why on this forgotten branch, in the midst of this bunch of comments, suddenly someone puts you pluses? Do you have several accounts and like yourself?
                  2. 0
                    4 February 2018 20: 22
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    But the fact that you, um, is somewhat tongue-tied, unfortunately does not need proof

                    Are you writing poetry here? This is not a literary circle ...
            2. +1
              4 February 2018 19: 21
              Quote: Genry
              Is it a bank? Payment system...

              Vashcheta, one of the largest banks, one of the founders of the payment system.
              1. 0
                4 February 2018 20: 32
                Quote: sogdy
                Vashcheta, one of the largest banks, one of the founders of the payment system.

                Anyway - nafig is not needed ...
    2. +2
      1 February 2018 10: 01
      Quote: SPLV
      Money intended to support the Russian economy supported the US economy.
      The logical question is - what has changed now?

      now the money will go to maintain their own pants
  8. 0
    1 February 2018 08: 58
    The Moor made his own business ... One must learn from the Americans. Debts are already more than they weigh, but they do not care. Only we are shaking over the budget deficit. And he stimulates ...
  9. +2
    1 February 2018 09: 00
    If only the foreign exchange reserve was intact, the rest of the so-called funds are only intermediate "capacities" in the "flow" of financial flows ....
    1. +3
      1 February 2018 09: 40
      Quote: Knowing
      If only the foreign exchange reserve was intact, the rest of the so-called funds are only intermediate "capacities" in the "flow" of financial flows ....

      Gold and foreign exchange reserves are held by the Central Bank, which is not owned by the state (private bank). And this Central Bank is not obliged to finance (lend state money to the state itself) state programs .... And in general, it does not owe anything to anyone, it just has to report that it is not possible to verify it.
      1. +2
        1 February 2018 10: 18
        Quote: Genry
        The Central Bank is not obliged to finance (lend state money to the state itself) state programs
        Unless otherwise provided by another federal law. You read the law on gold reserves before the end of the sentence, and not just what you emphasize and voice.
        1. 0
          1 February 2018 14: 53
          Quote: Stanislav
          Unless otherwise provided by another federal law. You read the law on gold reserves before the end of the sentence, and not just what you emphasize and voice.

          And where is this your “other” federal law? It's empty there...
          Everything is done only with the consent of the Central Bank.
  10. +3
    1 February 2018 09: 15
    “On January 1, 2018, the volume of the NWF amounted to 3,753 trillion rubles,
    which is equivalent to 65,15 billion dollars "////

    At the pace how the Reserve Fund was spent. enough for 2-3 years
    about.
    1. +7
      1 February 2018 09: 25
      Thanks sanctions
      In January-December 2017, livestock and poultry production for slaughter in Russian agricultural organizations grew by 7% to 10,8 million tons in live weight, Agroinvestor reports citing Rosstat materials. Including production of pigs increased by 7,1% to 3,7 million tons in live weight, by the end of December, industrial producers had 19,7 million pigs, which is 8,3% more than a year earlier.
      1. +1
        1 February 2018 11: 11
        Quote: Angel_and_Demon
        In January-December 2017, livestock and poultry production

        chickens rush almost every day, pigs rush 2 times a year, several pieces, it is not difficult to increase volumes quickly, just why prices don’t fall, success in this industry is leveled by the dairy industry, which falls because the cow doesn’t give milk even after a year and only eats and the payback period of milk is more than 10 years and the population is as if reduced
        1. +1
          1 February 2018 14: 05
          Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
          only why, then, do not fall,

          Are you up? Even my sabak sees a completely different picture.
          Whole milk is not getting cheaper? So it cost so much restored. Yes, and deliver one-piece to the city - 150-200 km at the cost of the correct canvas as one and a half runways of the same length. The canvas is beaten at 35 meters to the rocky base. Otherwise - so-and-so-potholes. Sluggish, but frozen. It used to be processed on the spot, taken to the factory, a truck once a week. Now milk trucks are hitching every morning.
          Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
          because a cow doesn’t give milk even after a year but only eats and the payback period of milk is more than 10 years and the number of livestock is decreasing

          Dairy cow and meat ... Itself is far from rural, but even from instructors of the regional committee did not hear such an assumption.
          1. +3
            1 February 2018 16: 43
            Quote: sogdy
            Even my sabak sees a completely different picture.

            and you will arrange your dog in Rosstat, -According to Rosstat, the cost of 1 liter of whole pasteurized milk 2,5–3,2% fat in the Russian Federation in July was 52,36 rubles. While in July last year it cost 48,28 rubles, in 2015 - 46 rubles, and in 2014 - 41,9 rubles.
            and according to the FAS, the picture isn’t even more attractive, do you really believe that prices will go down with increasing tariffs for transportation and fuel ?, at the same time ask your dog for information from the Audit Chamber about the increase in the number of poor and decrease in purchasing power, the year has just begun and gasoline, utilities, tariffs have grown
            Quote: sogdy
            Itself is far from rural, but I have not heard such an assumption even from the instructors of the regional committees.

            and you better listen to livestock breeders, or build a farm yourself
            1. +4
              1 February 2018 16: 53
              Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
              about an increase in the number of poor and a decrease in purchasing power, the year has just begun and gasoline, utilities, and tariffs have risen

              we have the same thing, although overproduction - as evidenced by the milk war with Russia, so that, as they say, leads us to a bright future, but no one promised to feed us on the way request
            2. 0
              4 February 2018 13: 28
              Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
              the cost of 1 liter of whole pasteurized milk 2,5–3,2% fat

              (mat, mat, mat) whole pasteurized milk does not happen below 6,3% !!!
              I don’t know what kind of Rosstat you have, we don’t publish such figures with niapch. Milk below 6,3% is skimmed or reconstituted, not whole.
              Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
              at the same time, ask the dog for information from the Accounts Chamber about the increase in the number of poor and decrease in purchasing power, the year has just begun and gasoline, utilities, tariffs have increased

              In what, Semenych! And the men didn’t know!
              And why do I need a private sector? So he is like a might, and he gets out. Speculation is not an indicator. And, alas, speculation is crushing on supertaxes. At least from the 13th century.
    2. 0
      1 February 2018 09: 25
      Well, now the economy is growing. And taxes on the sale of petroleum products are not sickly began to come. All the same, oil costs under 70. Yes, and we have under MBR under 450 lard greens.
      1. +4
        1 February 2018 09: 44
        Industry at the end of 2017 fell. But oil at $ 60 offset
        the fall. Oil, alas, the hope of the economy ..

        "Yes, and we have under the MVR under 450 lard greens" ////

        When they scoop out the Welfare Fund, they will get to the MIA.
        Is it not clear?
        Until there is a breakthrough in civilian industries
        (not a military commissar, not in agriculture, not in mining)
        trampling will continue at zero.
        All sorts of Superjets, gas container ships. Chubais everyone hates, but
        his industry is the most promising and important of all.
        1. +1
          1 February 2018 14: 16
          Warrior, but you still don’t know that even in your blessed state every minister has his own funds, and not one at a time? And the rotation of the ministers every two years ... no, well, someone has been sitting all his life ... who is in the government, and who is so ...
          You are discussing open funds of the Ministry of Finance. So what? Well, they brought them out of banking dependence, but what's your sadness? And we have a problem with ours, your banks. And we solve it. How can. "Worse will not be."
      2. +2
        1 February 2018 16: 48
        Quote: Muvka
        Well, now the economy is growing

        What is growing there?
        Let's proofs, dear.
    3. +2
      1 February 2018 09: 30
      the article says that the budget will be financed from the fund last year, not because it is enough for one year, but because rising oil prices will allow the budget not to take money from the fund.
      and in fact this is so, oil has already risen quite well, and the dollar rate has remained almost the same, that is, the budget has been gaining fat for several months in a row.
    4. +2
      1 February 2018 09: 38
      The pace is likely to be higher, because earlier the Reserve Fund patched up budget holes, and the NWF retired. Now the egg is one.
    5. +4
      1 February 2018 10: 17
      This is very optimistic. Given that in 2012 there were $ 613 billion in the piggy bank, and 6% was eaten in 90 years. I think for 8 months. Well, if the oil certainly does not shoot.
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 10: 33
        Was there 613 billion in the Reserve Fund? Can I have a reference?
        1. +4
          1 February 2018 10: 52
          https://go.mail.ru/search_video?rf=yandex.ru&
          fm=1&q=состояние%20резервного%20фонда%20и%20ф
          nb% 20a% 202012% 20g & frm = ws_p & d = 2689646346 &
          amp; sig = 0c21e4c2ec & s = Youtube
          1. +1
            1 February 2018 11: 04
            current foreign exchange reserves
            19.01.2018/442,8/XNUMX XNUMX billion dollars
            http://www.cbr.ru/hd_base/mrrf/mrrf_7d/
          2. 0
            1 February 2018 11: 14
            You are confusing the reserve fund and international gold and foreign exchange reserves. The reserve that was, compared with the Ministry of Internal Affairs, was scanty.
            1. 0
              1 February 2018 13: 04
              Not scanty, but 3 times less.
              The Reserve Fund had a maximum of 130 milliliters. dollars to
              crisis of 2008. Reduced to 40 billion
              Then it grew to 80 billion in 2013.
              Dropped to zero in 2017.
            2. 0
              1 February 2018 14: 19
              Yours ... well, and "references"!
              "And these people forbid us to pick our nose!" (C)
  11. 0
    1 February 2018 09: 21
    In 2004, the Stabilization Fund was created in the Russian Federation, and on February 1, 2008 it was divided into the NWF and the Reserve Fund. According to experts, the accumulated reserves helped Russia not only survive the global crisis of 2008 without serious social and financial upheavals, but also helped out more than once in the following years

    If such a wonderful fund helps to survive crises, and they close it. They are not looking for good from good. or are they looking for? The Russian Federation does not understand the mind.
    1. +11
      1 February 2018 09: 28
      Quote: loginovich
      The Russian Federation does not understand the mind.

      Neighbor Ukraine for 27 years now no one can understand the mind and why? laughing
      1. +3
        1 February 2018 09: 37
        Quote: loginovich
        [If such a wonderful fund helps to survive crises, but they close it. They don’t look for good from good. or are they looking for? The Russian Federation does not understand the mind.


        It was simply renamed and that’s it. Yes
  12. +5
    1 February 2018 09: 23
    The Reserve Fund has fulfilled its mission and is covered up as unnecessary, now the NWF will be enough. The fact that Russia has almost got out of a deficit budget is very pleasing. Let us hope that in the economy as well as in the armed forces, Russia will continue to strengthen.
    1. +1
      1 February 2018 11: 02
      My husband at the factory has gone a lot of work since last year. Ask to go out on Saturdays. Take to work, different specialties are required. So, the subcontractors are not standing.
      1. 0
        1 February 2018 14: 22
        Quote: housewife
        My husband went a lot of work at the factory

        Well, you cried.
        1. +1
          2 February 2018 11: 57
          where exactly did I cry? What are you talking about?
  13. +1
    1 February 2018 09: 41
    In the news in Ukraine, he surely overcame and joy, the damned Muscovites went bankrupt, there is no money, they will soon fall apart. Crimea and even the Bryansk region will be returned as an indemnity for the Donbass.
  14. +4
    1 February 2018 09: 51
    The more money manipulations (transfer from one to another, etc., etc.) in the Russian Ministry of Finance, the more you can steal. What is not clear here!
  15. +2
    1 February 2018 10: 00
    And what does the majority of you have to do with money distributed by the capitalists? Did they forget their interests or inflame philanthropy? Moreover, the greater part of this money was kept by the best partners. One fund was closed, another was opened. And the rules of conduct remained the same.
    KEEP MONEY IN SGA TALLERS.
  16. +2
    1 February 2018 10: 30
    And what is the difference between the Reserve Fund and the Stabilization Fund? It seems to me that someone who understands will explain to us about these funds! What are they for and how do they work? And then it will be possible to start a conversation.
    1. 0
      1 February 2018 14: 37
      Stabilization, it is the Reserve Fund - such as private investments in pro-American banks. NWF - withdrawn from money into assets such as US government bonds and other "partners". If anything, assets are land, existing enterprises with infrastructure, subsoil. The transfer of funds to custody on government bonds gave the United States and Europe an opportunity to yell about "aggression and future seizure," because if the state bonds are not secured, the issue is resolved in this way.
      Those. the frenzied external and part of the even frantic internal debts of our “partners” are secured by their obligation to transfer the actual territories to us, China, India, Brazil, Venezuela, Argentina. The first three are able to take these territories. Was able (and, perhaps, now capable) and the second three.
  17. +1
    1 February 2018 10: 41
    For some reason, I recall a joke about a fox and a monkey - well, like, who walked in a fur coat, he will walk in a fur coat, and who ran with a naked ..... well, hereinafter
  18. +2
    1 February 2018 11: 11
    Quote: Muvka
    Well, now the economy is growing. And taxes on the sale of petroleum products are not sickly began to come. All the same, oil costs under 70. Yes, and we have under MBR under 450 lard greens.

    What is the use of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs if the state can dispose of them only with the permission of the Bank of Russia. and the Bank of Russia, in turn, is not subordinate to state institutions ??? and where is gold in general in our country?
    1. 0
      1 February 2018 14: 47
      Quote: Fanat85
      What is the use of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs if the state can dispose of them only with the permission of the Bank of Russia. and the Bank of Russia, in turn, is not subordinate to state institutions ???

      Such a funny lad! And jumping like a ball!
      Such gold and so on in the State Reserve, controls the financial operations of the Bank of Russia, without these reserves, and depends on the management of the Accounts Chamber, which is an integral part of the State Duma.
      Well, not Ukraine here. And only the procedure for registration and reporting depends on the Fed.
  19. +1
    1 February 2018 13: 05
    But what about the loud statement of our government that Russia got off the oil and gas needle? And here it turns out we live by selling gas and oil.
  20. +1
    1 February 2018 13: 20
    Quote: Spartanez300
    We do not know exactly where the additional oil and gas revenues are going, but we know more and more that the number of Russian oligarchs every year.

    [Quote] [/ quote]
  21. +1
    1 February 2018 22: 15
    What? What about the USA? Will they no longer feed on Russian money? But will they find a reason to arrest all denyuzhku that Nabiulina, caressed by all the enemies of Russia, sent to the American (and not Russian) reserves, since the withdrawal by the client of their money from a real bank can often result in the seizure of the deposit.
  22. 0
    2 February 2018 00: 21
    The Reserve Fund ceased to exist as a result of the fight against corruption.
  23. +1
    2 February 2018 09: 57
    I see it like this. Previously, the Reserve Fund was shaking, but the NWF was difficult to cut openly. And now the NWF will be sawing under the pretext of plugging holes. Ladies and gentlemen, it seems to me to my pension, there will be no pension as such.
  24. 0
    2 February 2018 11: 07
    Quote: sogdy
    Quote: Fanat85
    What is the use of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs if the state can dispose of them only with the permission of the Bank of Russia. and the Bank of Russia, in turn, is not subordinate to state institutions ???

    Such a funny lad! And jumping like a ball!
    Such gold and so on in the State Reserve, controls the financial operations of the Bank of Russia, without these reserves, and depends on the management of the Accounts Chamber, which is an integral part of the State Duma.
    Well, not Ukraine here. And only the procedure for registration and reporting depends on the Fed.

    Carefully read the law on the Central Bank in the constitution. there will be enough questions to the Central Bank. read the statement on the permitted activities of the Bank of Russia. and yes I’m not your boyfriend! and patriotism must be robust !!
    1. 0
      6 February 2018 14: 33
      Quote: Fanat85
      Carefully read the law on the Central Bank in the constitution. there will be enough questions to the Central Bank. read the statement on the permitted activities of the Bank of Russia.

      Punctuation marks from the training manual take ...?
      Quote: Fanat85
      and yes I’m not your boyfriend! and patriotism must be robust !!

      So not a Ukrainian lad. Which is worse.
      The phrase about "sound / reasonable patriotism" is again from the training manual. I still read these phrases in the neof manuals in the 1980s.
      Enlightenment is unreasonable: in the Russian language, such combinations are impossible - either patriotism or “sensible” trash. Ideological series and historical development, you know.

      Read “Romance of My Life” by Romain Rollan - a classic autobiography of betrayal. Many beautiful and smart words lead to cooperation with the enemy.
  25. 0
    2 February 2018 11: 09
    Quote: Exello
    I see it like this. Previously, the Reserve Fund was shaking, but the NWF was difficult to cut openly. And now the NWF will be sawing under the pretext of plugging holes. Ladies and gentlemen, it seems to me to my pension, there will be no pension as such.

    Do you still count on retirement?))) You are an optimist!
  26. +3
    4 February 2018 22: 12
    Genry
    Quote: Genry
    Quote: Golovan Jack
    How did the Americans earn the proceeds from their treasure money deposited with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation?

    ... Money always goes where it is more profitable. In which other bank can you place such an amount and make a big profit? And why does the Central Bank not want to lower the base discount rate?

    GYYY good laughing good
    All clear.
    That is, the Amerans have nowhere else to give money, except to put them on a deposit in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.
    And for this the Central Bank holds the discount rate ... damn it, hold me three, catch me with T-shirts ...
    Enough, you have already won the contest ... I won’t say which one, I have a lot of predecessors.
    Quote: Genry
    Why on this forgotten branch, in the midst of this bunch of comments, suddenly someone puts you pluses? Do you have several accounts and like yourself?

    Well, then wassat
    From you to GardamirI take an example wink
    And what you see in the "All Comments" menu never occurred to you, of course. Pichalka request
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    6 February 2018 16: 40
    Quote: sogdy
    Quote: Fanat85
    Carefully read the law on the Central Bank in the constitution. there will be enough questions to the Central Bank. read the statement on the permitted activities of the Bank of Russia.

    Punctuation marks from the training manual take ...?
    Quote: Fanat85
    and yes I’m not your boyfriend! and patriotism must be robust !!

    So not a Ukrainian lad. Which is worse.
    The phrase about "sound / reasonable patriotism" is again from the training manual. I still read these phrases in the neof manuals in the 1980s.
    Enlightenment is unreasonable: in the Russian language, such combinations are impossible - either patriotism or “sensible” trash. Ideological series and historical development, you know.

    Read “Romance of My Life” by Romain Rollan - a classic autobiography of betrayal. Many beautiful and smart words lead to cooperation with the enemy.

    You are mad, are not you? what training manual ??? what is stuck in my head? did you read everything about the law of the Central Bank ??? no questions?