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Whom Poroshenko considers contributors to the development of astronautics Ukrainians?

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President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko published a short obituary on the occasion of the death of Leonid Kadenyuk. Poroshenko published his thoughts on social networks, listing in his obituary the “Ukrainians” who contributed to the conquest of space.


From the note of the President of Ukraine on Facebook:
Leonid Kadenyuk went to eternity. He became a glorious number of Ukrainians who paved the way to the stars for mankind: Kibalchich, Kondratyuk, Korolev and others.

Ukrainian space research continues, our rocket science continues and lives to defend the country.

Eternal memory to the first cosmonaut of independent Ukraine.


Users have already commented on Poroshenko’s statement:
Korolev would be exactly surprised if he knew that he was in the "glorious number of Ukrainians."

It is strange that Poroshenko did not include Yuri Gagarin in the list of Ukrainians, because he could fly over Ukraine.

For your information:

Hero of Ukraine Leonid Kadenyuk died today in Kiev.

Whom Poroshenko considers contributors to the development of astronautics Ukrainians?


He was born in 1951 year. He is the first and only cosmonaut of Ukraine after “gaining independence”. November 19 - December 5 1997, Leonid Kadenyuk made a space flight on the American space shuttle Columbia.
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 31 January 2018 17: 19 New
    +8
    Poroshenko listen, do not respect yourself. He speaks a lot, but lies even more
    1. Monos
      Monos 31 January 2018 17: 28 New
      17
      Under the wise guidance of Piglet, Ukraine is confidently looking to the future! And with terrible force, he is everywhere introducing innovative technologies. Choo-choo-choo ... smile

      Kiev "train".
      1. Giant thought
        Giant thought 31 January 2018 17: 32 New
        +6
        Poroshenko has great Ukrainians everywhere: from digging the Black Sea to laying the road to space, Emel’s shallows are your week.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 31 January 2018 17: 46 New
          +7
          Normal juggling. All of them were born in the Russian Empire. Kibalchich - 1853, Kondratyuk - 1897, Korolev - 1906. Now the cities of their birth are part of Ukraine. But their hometowns were under occupation and under the Germans. What now, Merkel, on this basis, Sergei Pavlovich Korolev, a native of Zhytomyr, a German will declare?
          Although, after the “great Ukrainian” of Kiev’s prince Oleg, or after demanding Mongolia to compensate the injured “Ukrainians” during Genghis Khan’s time, there’s nothing to be surprised at.
        2. hrych
          hrych 31 January 2018 18: 08 New
          +3
          Quote: Thought Giant
          Meli Emelya - your week.

          Unfortunately, the majority of Ukrainian citizens kept quiet while banderlogs captured the country
          1. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 31 January 2018 20: 34 New
            +4
            Is Dimon right with the iPhone?
          2. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 1 February 2018 07: 09 New
            +3
            Unfortunately, the majority of Ukrainian citizens kept quiet while banderlogs captured the country

            I remember my grandfather told: it was in the 50s. A friend worked with him at the factory, whose father managed to work at the same factory under the tsar. Well, and accordingly, I had the opportunity to evaluate what is now called "corporate social policy" (this can be found in large corporations). And he spoke about this social policy in good tones - even though he was a member of the party. And when he was asked: if everything was so good - why did you take the trunks and stones and go to make a revolution?
            And the old worker answered: "THUS THINK THOUGHT THAT WILL BE BETTER BETTER."
            In general, no comments ...
      2. cniza
        cniza 31 January 2018 17: 35 New
        +2
        Horror, that and look into the caves will return, although what am I talking about ...
      3. Archivist Vasya
        Archivist Vasya 31 January 2018 17: 51 New
        +1
        In Moscow, near the Dmitrovskaya metro station, there is a railway line, so there, too, the train rides and buzzes — it's so nice to hear the old train whistle early in the morning!))))
      4. hrych
        hrych 31 January 2018 18: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: Monos
        Kiev "train".

        Blue carriage, and at the end should be Shapoklyak or Farion her last name
      5. Kent0001
        Kent0001 31 January 2018 18: 46 New
        0
        C'mon ..... vaasche tough guy .. I would understand if the steam locomotive boilers were used for heating .... and so there are simply no words.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 31 January 2018 22: 39 New
          +1
          Quote: Kent0001
          C'mon ..... vaasche tough guy .. I would understand if the steam locomotive boilers were used for heating .... and so there are simply no words.

          And if the war. There is no electricity (electric locomotives stand), solariums are not (diesel locomotives stand), and in bulk there are steam locomotives traveling, steamboats sailing - "hello to Malchish." good
          1. Metallurg_2
            Metallurg_2 1 February 2018 07: 15 New
            +1
            And by the way, this is not a joke. In the Tula region at the Uzlovaya station, there is a whole locomotive park. And on many locomotives it is written: "The resource has not worked out."
            It is enough to load it with wood or coal, fill the boiler with water - and in the same way as 50-70 years ago it will pull the trains. The true question is whether it will pull the composition that is usually being assembled now - they are heavier than those then, but this is secondary.
      6. Antares
        Antares 31 January 2018 23: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Monos

        12
        Monos Today, 17:28 ↑ New
        Under the wise guidance of Piglet, Ukraine is confidently looking to the future! And with terrible force, he is everywhere introducing innovative technologies. Choo-choo-choo ... smile

        Kiev "train".

        this?

        1953 retro sightseeing train with a steam locomotive
        The same era (1954) L-3535 starred in the video of Tina Karol- "You will always have time to surrender." In general, there are several excursion steam locomotives in Ukraine. Sometimes they ply.
      7. a housewife
        a housewife 1 February 2018 01: 35 New
        +2
        Locomotive?!!! The last time I saw such a miracle was in 1969, I drove something in the port.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 31 January 2018 18: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: herruvim
      Poroshenko listen, do not respect yourself. He speaks a lot, but lies even more

      Ukraine during the USSR was a powerful union republic in terms of industry and technology .. Rocket building, aircraft building, shipbuilding, etc. ... And what did it become during the time of "independence"? In the bloody mongrel of the United States, completely robbed and shedding the blood of its separatist citizens .. Valtsman, sheds tears of crocodiles and wants to quickly fall out of this colony of the USA .. He won’t leave the bastard, the whole junta will have to answer for everything .. negative
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 31 January 2018 19: 13 New
      +9
      He became a glorious series of Ukrainians who paved the way for mankind to the stars: Kibalchich, Kondratyuk, Korolev and others

      If these wonderful people were alive, they would certainly have looked at Petruhe's eyes. But Kadenyuk is still the kingdom of heaven.
      And this is generally a masterpiece of stupidity.
      1. Metallurg_2
        Metallurg_2 31 January 2018 20: 36 New
        0
        Hitler is a visitor. Here is their hero.
      2. Andrey160479
        Andrey160479 31 January 2018 22: 49 New
        +1
        I will not let my countryman mess up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is when the Smolensk land was Ukraine?
  2. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 31 January 2018 17: 22 New
    +7
    Earth rest in peace to a departed person .... And Poroshenko? He will somehow become archival dust
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 31 January 2018 17: 45 New
      +7
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Earth rest in peace to a departed person .... And Poroshenko? He will somehow become archival dust

      The kingdom of heaven is Kadenyuk. He was a very clever man, and despised the whole parachute and the jumping bastard.
    2. Assyrian
      Assyrian 31 January 2018 20: 16 New
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      And Poroshenko? He will somehow become archival dust

      Better crematorium ashes.
  3. Dormidont
    Dormidont 31 January 2018 17: 23 New
    +4
    Waltzmann forgot to add Leonardo Da Vinci, Tsiolkovsky and Werner von Braun to this marvelous list of outlying star-bombers
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 17: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: Dormidont
      Waltzmann forgot to add Leonardo Da Vinci, Tsiolkovsky and Werner von Braun to this marvelous list of outlying star-bombers

      Is it also a "Ukrainian"?

      According to Chinese legend, an official named Wan Hu was the first to try to fly from Earth on a rocket. The first cosmonaut in the world is a Chinese!

      Legends about the first Chinese cosmonaut vary - in some cases he is called Wang Hu, in others - Wang Chu, according to some reports, he lived for 2000 years BC, according to others - in the 16 century.

      Be that as it may - the main story is this: Wang Hu was an important tangerine and commanded himself to construct an apparatus for flying to the moon. The apparatus was a chair to which 47 powder rockets were tied. Wang Hu sat down in a chair, his servants set fire to the rockets ... and the apparatus exploded. When the smoke cleared, there was no chair or tangerine on the launch pad.
      1. Dormidont
        Dormidont 31 January 2018 17: 38 New
        13
        you can’t say better
        1. Antares
          Antares 31 January 2018 23: 17 New
          0
          Quote: Dormidont
          you can’t say better

          where does the word of citizen Poroshenko to the one whom we consider Ukrainian cosmonauts? In addition, you can formally complain, they are Soviet cosmonauts.
          Politicians need PR. For them, sometimes ashamed, very much. But his personal opinion is of little interest to anyone. Well, he doesn’t know, or he knows better on purpose. He can’t rewrite history
          By the way, many of your list were born in the Lugansk and Donetsk regions. There are also from Kirovograd and Dnepropetrovsk. It is a pity there were no astronauts from my area.
          1. a housewife
            a housewife 1 February 2018 01: 51 New
            +1
            And I found it! From the Krasnodar Territory - Gorbatko and Padalka, and even from little Adygea - Birch!
      2. midivan
        midivan 31 January 2018 18: 12 New
        +6
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        Wang Hu sat down in a chair, his servants set fire to the rockets ... and the apparatus exploded. When the smoke cleared, there was no chair or tangerine on the “launch pad”.

        Taki flew to the moon fellow and gunpowder would be there too.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 22: 42 New
          +5
          Quote: midivan
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Wang Hu sat down in a chair, his servants set fire to the rockets ... and the apparatus exploded. When the smoke cleared, there was no chair or tangerine on the launch pad.

          Taki flew to the moon fellow and gunpowder would be there too.
          good I thought so.... lol
          By the way, an interesting fact is in American textbooks. the world's first astronaut (astronaut) Shepard (who made a suborbital flight almost a month later than Gagarin) is registered. About Gagarin also written. One phrase. The first Soviet astronaut ... Here is such a cunning political geometry obtained ....
          1. midivan
            midivan 31 January 2018 23: 16 New
            +3
            laughing The first thought is often very true, I have not caught myself on this once (and without jokes too). And why be surprised with amers, to start hanging my own on scaffolds, sometimes I watch "Comedy Club" there Volya often brings textbooks and children's books, so the happiness of those scribblers that they are not reachable at such moments, and they would strangle reptiles with their own hands am
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    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 31 January 2018 17: 29 New
      +2
      It will be the main one for a long time. Like an abscess on the body of Russia, from the infection brought by the Americans. I don’t know whether it will be possible to resolve it during our lifetime. He died of a heart attack, could not survive everything that happened?
    2. Antares
      Antares 31 January 2018 23: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Golden Eagle
      Today, is this already a topic about Ukraine?

      neither the first nor the last. I learn about Poroshenko mainly here. And about the others, they have already forgotten, too. It sometimes seems to me that our media have changed topics (native countries) with us about Russia, about Ukraine. Maybe there is a mistake somewhere in the communication networks.
  5. evil partisan
    evil partisan 31 January 2018 17: 55 New
    +6
    A worthy man was, by the way. Bright memory. And everyone who is trying to attach politics to matters holy to mankind, what exactly are missions to Earth’s orbit, should be simply ashamed.
  6. bald
    bald 31 January 2018 18: 00 New
    0
    Damn, even I, when I get drunk, I can not express myself so meticulously !!! good
  7. ded100
    ded100 31 January 2018 18: 01 New
    +4
    Petka forgot about Vakula; he was definitely the first hohlokosmonaut on the line !! wassat
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 31 January 2018 18: 12 New
      0
      Insanity grew stronger!
    2. Metallurg_2
      Metallurg_2 31 January 2018 20: 38 New
      0
      This despite the fact that Gogol wrote in Russian ...
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 31 January 2018 18: 30 New
    +1
    More than a dozen Ukrainians have visited space, but only Kadenyuk was a Ukrainian cosmonaut for Poroshenko, does he completely crush chocolate? Although if anyone remembers this flight, even then there was infa that Kadenyuk flew into space for free, his task was medical research and he paid for it with his own body, just flew like a rabbit for experiments.
    1. Berkut154
      Berkut154 31 January 2018 19: 29 New
      +4
      Dear, I’m certainly not an astronaut, but I’ll tell you one thing: they don’t just fly into space. And if a person is chosen for flight, this is preceded by tough selection and even tougher training. And everyone in the chair performs his specific task. At least you would read books about space exploration from the time of Korolev and Gagarin before comparing an astronaut and a worthy person with an animal !!!
      To get started, take a trip to Star City in the CPC.
      1. APASUS
        APASUS 31 January 2018 20: 34 New
        0
        Quote: Berkut154
        Dear, I’m certainly not an astronaut, but I’ll tell you one thing: they don’t just fly into space. And if a person is chosen for flight, this is preceded by tough selection and even tougher training. And everyone in the chair performs his specific task.

        What is your protest I do not understand?
        Well, and what task of Kadenyuk was in space flight can you answer?
        Americans were adamant - no experiments of their own. The only scientific program entrusted to the Ukrainian astronaut was growing plants simultaneously with thousands of American schoolchildren on Earth for subsequent comparison of the results.

        Despite the fact that the strictest selection standards were applied to Kadenyuk from the American side and why would they grow plants for schoolchildren.
        And soon a problem arose with candidates for the flight. At first, the special Interdepartmental Commission of the NSAU selected two candidates: Leonid Kadenyuk and Vyacheslav Meitarchan. In July 1996, they went to the United States to the Johnson Center for an additional medical examination and initial orientation training for the space experiment. However, the Americans rejected Meytarchan, and in October two more candidates were sent to Houston for “safety”: Yaroslav Pustovoy and Nadezhda Adamchuk. The latter also did not pass the American medical board, and Pustova and Kadenyuk were the “working” pair of candidates.

        Quote: Berkut154
        At least you would read books about space exploration from the time of Korolev and Gagarin before comparing an astronaut and a worthy person with an animal !!!

        I write about what I know, and I'm not trying to come up with on the go.
        After completing the flight on December 5, 1997, the Motherland had to wait for her hero, a month and a half. Even the decree on awarding Kadenyuk the highest Ukrainian award at that time, the Order “For Courage” of the 19st degree, dated January 1998, XNUMX. The explanation presented to the public was: “the diaspora did not let go.” Journalists unearthed the real reason for all these oddities at the stage of preparation for the flight. His true goal was painful and unsafe medical experiments, the conduct of which on US citizens prohibits US law. This explains the “generosity” of Americans and the inability to conduct a Ukrainian scientific program. The astronaut already had something to do during a two-week flight, and certainly not only growing plants according to the school curriculum. The delay in returning home was due to the fact that studies of his body continued on Earth (or maybe they just watched the astronaut, fearing possible complications). And this despite the fact that according to the usual American practice, an astronaut landing in the afternoon sleeps in his own house.
        As for me, then really this flight can be considered a real symbol of the US-Ukrainian "friendship." So, as the Americans launched into space the "first Ukrainian astronaut", Russia launched only mice, dogs

        Actually since then nothing has changed in relation to the Americans towards Ukrainians !!!
  9. Umnichka
    Umnichka 31 January 2018 18: 44 New
    +1
    Man, of course, sorry, sympathize. But for someone Kondratyuk to stand in line with Kibalchich and Korolev - this is such a hangover! Straight fat Ukraine in FIG knows to what extent ...
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 31 January 2018 19: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Umnichka
      But for someone Kondratyuk to stand in line with Kibalchich and Korolev - this is such a hangover!

      But he did not mention Popovich, the first Ukrainian cosmonaut in the USSR. Although Kadenyuk respected him very much and always mentioned him at meetings with children. Earth rest in peace!
      1. German Titov
        German Titov 31 January 2018 21: 28 New
        +1
        So Pavel Popovich flew into space under the Soviet Union. Recognize him as a Ukrainian astronaut "dumb". "Decommunization" however.
    2. ventel
      ventel 31 January 2018 19: 16 New
      0
      Do you even know what Kondratyuk did for space exploration that is so outraged.
    3. oldzek
      oldzek 31 January 2018 19: 28 New
      0
      smart girl, it’s not even quite at all accurate. about Kondratyuk Yu.V. (real name Alexander Shargey) is worth mentioning.
      1. ventel
        ventel 31 January 2018 20: 05 New
        0
        He is my fellow countryman from Poltava.
    4. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 31 January 2018 20: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Umnichka
      But for someone Kondratyuk to stand in line with Kibalchich and Korolev - this is such a hangover!


      Someone Kondratyuk, in fact, even among us it is considered one of the founders of astronautics. Calculation of the optimal flight path to the Moon and the concept of a descent lunar module, the use of the atmosphere for braking the descent vehicle and the calculation of braking options, multi-stage rockets, the basic equation of rocket motion, the use of celestial bodies for maneuvering the spacecraft, etc.
      It’s just that a person’s biography was ... complicated. And he died early.
      Kondratyuk Yuri Vasilievich served in the 110th Infantry Division of the 33rd Army, as an assistant platoon commander in 1291th Infantry Regiment, died on February 25, 1942, was buried near the village of Krivtsovo, Bolkhovsky District, Orel Region.
      1. Antares
        Antares 31 January 2018 23: 30 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Someone Kondratyuk

        the son of a Russified German and a Ukrainian baptized Jew, received an unusual craving for science from birth. Mother-geography and language, father-physicist and mathematician .. He changed his name and was afraid of red repressions for his officer past. Shargei-Kondratyuk.
        the scientist who proposed the optimal flight path to the moon; his calculations were used in the Apollo American lunar program, the author of the project of a powerful wind farm in Crimea. Killed at the front
        February 25, 1942, was buried near the village of Krivtsovo, Bolkhov district, Oryol region
        One of the geniuses of astronautics and just a talented person with an unusual fate.
        We have the same surname with him - this surname is very popular.
  10. earloop
    earloop 31 January 2018 19: 36 New
    0
    Obviously not the first. There were many "cosmonauts" in the army! Especially in winter!
  11. asty
    asty 31 January 2018 19: 44 New
    0
    In gives! This is so necessary!
  12. mavrus
    mavrus 31 January 2018 19: 46 New
    0
    Quote: Monos
    Under the wise guidance of Piglet, Ukraine is confidently looking to the future! And with terrible force, he is everywhere introducing innovative technologies. Choo-choo-choo ... smile

    Kiev "train".

    Well, even if the locomotive is too old, but the wagons are yellow-blakit ... SchA locomotive tint in the same colors, it will be like new.
  13. German Titov
    German Titov 31 January 2018 21: 24 New
    0
    Quote: Pirogov
    Quote: KVU-NSVD
    Earth rest in peace to a departed person .... And Poroshenko? He will somehow become archival dust

    The kingdom of heaven is Kadenyuk. He was a very clever man, and despised the whole parachute and the jumping bastard.

    I agree! He was a very worthy man. Actually, he still passed the Soviet school. Zeila rest in peace.
  14. iouris
    iouris 31 January 2018 22: 01 New
    0
    He was the first Western Ukrainian astronaut.
  15. Piramidon
    Piramidon 31 January 2018 23: 09 New
    +1
    Why are there, we are the first. Ikar had a surname Dedalchuk. Check and check, cotton! tongue
  16. Antares
    Antares 31 January 2018 23: 40 New
    0
    The article is so catchy .. who believes Poroshenko .. in my opinion this is the personal opinion of the author, who Poroshenko believes there.
    Spared no time climbed into the source
    "Vіchna in memory of the first astronaut of independent Ukraine."
    with this it is clear during Independence that only one astronaut (most likely an astronaut once with the Americans)
    As for the title of the article. Whom does he sit there
    Winning at the mainstream row of Ukrainians, they paved the way for people to the roads: Kibalchich, Kondratyuk, Korolov and Inshі
    .
    Yes, he listed the natives of the Ukrainian land .. could and should have added at least Glushko (a native of my city) and many titans of the national cosmonautics. However, limited-and others.
    Nothing. However, the domestic media cannot overcome the jealous fact that they are not Ukrainians, but Soviet, and Ukraine cannot have native geniuses. Only Soviet / Russian .. everything. But as soon as it comes to the bad guys, oh, Ukrainians, Tatars, and others appear here ... Geniuses are common, villains are national.
    I never wanted to be a devil’s lawyer (oh Poroshenko), but the media sucks debate from a finger out of the blue.
  17. olhon
    olhon 1 February 2018 01: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Monos
    Under the wise guidance of Piglet, Ukraine is confidently looking to the future! And with terrible force, he is everywhere introducing innovative technologies. Choo-choo-choo ... smile

    Kiev "train".

    Coal from South Africa?
    1. LeonidL
      LeonidL 1 February 2018 05: 14 New
      0
      Judging by the beep and smoke - from there, black and hoarse.
  18. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 1 February 2018 05: 06 New
    +2
    For 27 years of independence, they could only breed horses !!! - the only "Ukrainian achievement".
    1. aszzz888
      aszzz888 1 February 2018 06: 30 New
      +1
      The banderlog existence of ukrokaklia does not provide for any achievements and prosperity. Only blind submission to the owner with the motto - "Until the last Ukrainian!" to achieve the highest goals and ideas of democracy in a Merikatos style. bully
  19. LeonidL
    LeonidL 1 February 2018 05: 13 New
    0
    Poproshenko is lying and does not blush; I think that everyone on the list would spit in his eyes if he had associated them with this country, which is called Ukraine today. Well, you don’t have to say how cosmonautics lives and develops today at 404 - it is bent like exact sciences, like basic research, like education and secondary and higher and special technical ... It seems that today there is only favorite hysterical mythology in place, replacing history.
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 1 February 2018 06: 22 New
    +1
    President of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko
    This eternally drunken creature, without a flag, conscience and honor, does not cease to amaze and at the same time irritate society with its existence in this world .. angry