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Sanctions against the Russians? Germans and the European Union object!

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In Germany, they do not admit that the “Kremlin report” was drafted in order to introduce additional sanctions against the Russian economy. In the eastern German lands, politicians express a desire to even weaken the existing sanctions against Russia. The Germans fear that, as it were, due to new American wishes, there would be no problems with the gas supply to Germany. The European Union also does not support the idea of ​​new sanctions against Russia.




The list of Russian politicians and businessmen who may be subject to sanctions in the near future, made the majority of those who fell on this list “shrug their shoulders” ironically. «Süddeutsche Zeitung». As for the reaction of President Putin, he already called the actions of the United States an “unfriendly act” that complicated relations between the two states. At the same time, Russia is currently “refraining from countermeasures, but rather is interested in improving relations,” correspondents Julian Hans and Hubert Wetzel write.

Such a calm Russian reaction can be explained by the fact that US President Donald Trump refrains from imposing new sanctions on the Russian defense industry, as the US Congress originally demanded of him. But the congressmen last summer almost pulled out the oath from the White House about the future "sanctioning" of the Russian defense industry and all its business partners.

And then the White House suddenly went back down. As they say in the US State Department, the very existence of the law with the Kremlin list already has a “deterrent” effect, and the Russian military industry has already lost billions of dollars.

The Eastern Committee of the German economy urged not to overestimate the significance of the Kremlin list mentioned: after all, the US government has made it clear that it does not intend to extend sanctions.

Much more worried representatives of German companies and the federal government. According to the German edition, representatives of German companies, as well as Foreign Minister Sigmar Gabriel, have already expressed their concerns. Sanctions against Gazprom could jeopardize plans for the second phase of the Nord Stream gas pipeline, which will lead to an increase in the supply of Russian natural gas through the Baltic Sea to Germany. German companies Uniper (formerly Eon) and Wintershall are participating in the project.

When the Kremlin report was made public, the heads of the five eastern states of Germany opposed anti-Russian sanctions.

As the "The Local", the leaders of the five lands in the east of Germany (the territory of the former GDR) stated that they oppose the continuation of the policy of sanctions against Russia related to the "illegal annexation of the Crimea."

Following the meeting of the five leaders, the minister-president of Saxony-Anhalt, Reiner Haseloff, called the sanctions ineffective. The likelihood of their effective impact "decreases day by day."

True, this same Haseloff, a Christian Democrat, that is, a member of the party Angela Merkel, described the "annexation" as a "violation of international law." At the same time, he referred to the interests of the eastern lands of Germany: “But we also have to take into account that the particularly strong influence [of the sanctions] on business is felt in the East German lands, while it plays a minor or at least secondary role in the western lands of Germany.”

The Minister-President of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern Manuela Schwesig (Manuela Schwesig) stressed that "we definitely support the weakening of mutual sanctions."

A list of five German lands that advocate easing anti-Russian sanctions: Saxony, Thuringia, Saxony-Anhalt, Brandenburg and Mecklenburg-Western Pomerania.

The current position of the Eastern Committee of the German economy is as follows: its chairman, Wolfgang Büchele, believes that the new “anti-Russian list” (meaning the Kremlin report, which we wrote yesterday about "IN") should be treated without unnecessary panic. After all, Washington made it clear that the sanctions against Russia and the list are different things.

The list is “not related to likely new sanctions,” suggests the head of the committee. Büchele is even sure that new sanctions by the US administration are not planned at all. Finally, he expressed the hope that the European Union and the United States would “reconcile on the issue of sanctions” and move on to diplomacy.

Such verbosity, we note, just looks like a panic. Or even a slight alarm. Anxiety, understandable against the backdrop of German business concerns about difficulties with Gazprom and other Russian companies. And against the background of some numbers voiced by German experts.

It turns out that the sanctions are terribly expensive for both the “sanctioned” side and the “authorizing” one.

The results of the study of the University of Kiel led on its pages a major financial portal finanzen.net (Germany). According to the university, economic sanctions and counter-sanctions cost the conflicting parties more than 100 billion euros (the calculation was made from 2014 of the year). About 60% losses occurred in Russia and almost 40% - in the EU.

At the EU level, too, objected to the new sanctions.

The European Union has decided not to support the strengthening of anti-Russian sanctions, Belgian Prime Minister Charles Michel said after a meeting with his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev. Thus, the politician commented on the “Kremlin list”.

Michel recalled that there are disagreements between the EU and Russia, but noted that it is necessary to “open a dialogue” and finally build fruitful relations. “I told him [Dm. Medvedev] also said that in the European Union we talk a lot about Russia, but we don’t talk to her, we don’t communicate with her. In the future, it seems to me, it would be useful to expand this dialogue, make it more structural, ”the Belgian prime minister said. "Lenta.ru".

However, alas, all these are common words. As for the position of the Eastern Committee from Germany, its leader, Wolfgang Büchele, seems to be an absolute optimist when he assures the public that the Kremlin report and sanctions against Russia are completely different things. Is he trying to reassure the German public?

The thing is that the American Minister of Finance, S. Mnuchin, does not say at all what this German says. American ideologue of the "Kremlin report" just claimsthat after the list will come and sanctions. According to Mr. Mnuchin, the sanctions of the Russian oligarchs and officials are ahead: "This [Kremlin report] should in no way be interpreted as if we do not apply sanctions to anyone from this report."

Therefore, a slight panic in Germany, buying gas from Russia, is justified (if it can be said about panic). German business, which cooperates with large Russian companies, can get into an unpleasant situation: the sanctions that the American Ministry of Finance promotes through its list will affect not only Russians from the list and their organizations, but also those foreign companies or governments that wish to cooperate with the Russians, despite sanctions. How Europe (especially Germany) will get out of such difficult relations with its overseas "partner", and the devil himself does not know.

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  1. Serge72
    Serge72 2 February 2018 06: 23
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    The EU also does not support the idea of ​​new sanctions against Russia.

    We need to play on their contradictions with our main opponent - the United States. And to achieve a breakthrough in the western direction, for the east is a dark matter, a black cat in a black room.
    Lukashenko contrived, lifted sanctions - well done.
    1. Titsen
      Titsen 2 February 2018 06: 52
      +5
      Quote: Serge72
      The EU also does not support the idea of ​​new sanctions against Russia.

      We need to play on their contradictions with our main opponent - the United States. And to achieve a breakthrough in the western direction, for the east is a dark matter, a black cat in a black room.
      Lukashenko contrived, lifted sanctions - well done.


      Old Father - a big sly.

      But, in the end, he will outwit himself and end up, at best, as the former leader of Ukraine will live somewhere in a quiet Russian town ...

      We cannot succeed in cunning - only in the forehead!

      Or on the forehead!
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 2 February 2018 07: 02
      0
      The Germans are not Anglo-Saxons. They come from a different kind, close to Slavic. The answer to the new “list” was Germany’s signing of SP-2 contracts. The rest is
      inertia game.
  2. HEATHER
    HEATHER 2 February 2018 06: 25
    0
    The Germans themselves cannot understand. Although it’s strange. Either to the beautiful, or to the strong. It’s not for us to decide. So, it’s clear.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2018 06: 46
      +2
      In the East German lands of politics express a desire to even weaken the existing sanctions against Russia.
      not for nothing that our GSVG spent time there ... not in vain! yes
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 2 February 2018 07: 58
        +2
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        not for nothing that our GSVG spent time there ... not in vain!
        I agree, it was not in vain that I trampled the lands of Thuringia
      2. Mih1974
        Mih1974 2 February 2018 14: 54
        +3
        It has nothing to do with it. As many people who are close to the subject and “our people in Germany” write, it’s a blessing that during the GDR the Germans really divided into two people “axis” and “weight” and this is not only about the elderly living in the GDR, this is much deeper. No matter how it sounds trite, but after trying the real Socialism people do not want wild capitalism. Also the difference in degradation in piDeras issues repeat repeat Oh, "rear-wheel" and similar topics were "cured" in the minds of the Germans of the GDR and now they shove this "shit" - they do not want to and are opposed to it in every way. And on such small differences and the fact that the territories of Germany are not going to "share" with the GDR industry and profits belay negative . That is, the "Western" Germans foolishly thought that they had received "their colony", but in fact, the upbringing in the Soviets did not teach people slavery, as they do in the West, namely Freedom. And with the formal unification of Germany, the eastern part remained the "island" of consciousness and Reason. good East Nepets have also seen Americans as occupiers before, and now it’s easier for them to talk about it without any problems. I even suspect that the “emigrant problem” is different in the East and West of Germany. lol I can only assume that “in the east” they are prescribed “saw” as in our time in Murmansk these barmales were “clarified” the situation with the “flourishing of tolerance” in the vastness of Russia good repeat .
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 2 February 2018 06: 42
    +2
    and the Russian military industry has already lost billions of dollars.


    This is when she managed to lose billions of dollars ...
    awww ... announce the list please ... maybe you were wrong, maybe we are talking about hundreds of trillions of dollars smile .
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2018 06: 50
      +1
      maybe Lech hi , to estimate so ... how many "F35" has the Omerega fucked up? and how much did our SU sell? the balance is clearly not in our favor. request and this, without "pitfalls."
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 2 February 2018 06: 53
        +3
        or maybe Lyokha hi, to estimate so ... how many "F35" the "fuckers"


        Hello Andrey Yuryevich hi
        F-35 USA delivers to its traditional markets where access is closed to us because of Russophobia.
        In general, the losses of the Russian military-industrial complex from sanctions are insignificant and so far do not have any influence on it ... I think so.
        1. vlad007
          vlad007 2 February 2018 07: 13
          +5
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          In general, the losses of the Russian military-industrial complex from sanctions are insignificant and so far do not have any influence on it ... I think so.


          The new sanctions are directed not against RUSSIA, but against the COUNTRIES purchasing products of the military-industrial complex of Russia. The sanction tool is a restriction in obtaining loans. It's simple: if you want to get loans in the USA, do not buy weapons from Russia.
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2018 07: 21
          +1
          Quote: The same LYOKHA
          In general, the losses of the Russian military-industrial complex from sanctions are insignificant and so far do not have any influence on it ... I think so.

          the wide range of prices ... request Hello! hi
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 2 February 2018 06: 53
    +2
    These are all words. They are all fine fellows on sheep, until it comes to voting on sanctions. But there, for some reason, magically, the decision is made unanimously in favor of their extension.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 2 February 2018 06: 54
    +3
    The Germans fear ... Better later than never. But whether Germany can withstand US pressure is a big question. Wait and see.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 2 February 2018 07: 26
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The Germans fear ... Better later than never. But whether Germany can withstand US pressure is a big question. Wait and see.

      once, Rotmister, the Germans tried to return the gold, there was a scandal. wink
      1. Mih1974
        Mih1974 2 February 2018 14: 56
        0
        I personally bet on Germany, perhaps only they can still return to the list of Nations, apart from the rest of the cattle that under the fifth of the Americans degraded to the level of plankton.
  6. Loess
    Loess 2 February 2018 08: 17
    +2
    When Germany is an independent player, then they will decide what is good for Germany and what is not very good. In the meantime, Germany carries out all the orders of the United States, the United States and decide to be the sanctions of Germany against Russia or not to be.
  7. Aleks2048
    Aleks2048 2 February 2018 09: 01
    +2
    It seems to me that here it is possible from the Russian Federation to introduce (albeit not in 1-2 days), but gradually the following measures:
    1) To cease to recognize and generally somehow react to the decision of the courts outside the Russian Federation, having designated the priority of the laws of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Russian Federation in any relationship for future international treaties, old obligations will have to be fulfilled.
    2) Stop communicating with the European Union. Communication only at the level of individual states, and at the same time stop the activities of our delegations in all EU bodies.
    3) Introduce a direct legislative ban on concluding long-term contracts for the supply from the Russian Federation to other countries of energy, electricity, wood and wood products, minerals.
    4) Kick American diplomats through prison after initiating proceedings against them and at the same time conduct searches in US embassies in the Russian Federation, nationalizing the buildings and property of US embassies in the Russian Federation.
    5) Enter an analogue of the US list in which to indicate the company buying products which can be obtained sanctions from the Russian Federation.
    1. Petr1968
      Petr1968 2 February 2018 14: 39
      0
      Quote: Alex2048
      It seems to me that here it is possible from the Russian Federation to introduce (albeit not in 1-2 days), but gradually the following measures:

      Maybe because your nonsense is taken seriously the same as you? How do you answer, fits clearly into the plan of the Kremlin and Putin !!! And he explains many things.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 5 February 2018 11: 54
        0
        Quote: Petr1968
        Maybe because your nonsense is taken seriously the same as you? How do you answer, fits clearly into the plan of the Kremlin and Putin !!! And he explains many things.

        Add meaning to your message ...
  8. Enoch
    Enoch 2 February 2018 09: 01
    +1
    "The Germans and the European Union object!"
    They still would not mind, without our gas they would feel bad, so it flows to "our friends" - Germans, Poles, etc.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 2 February 2018 13: 02
      0
      Quote: monk
      "The Germans and the European Union object!"
      Still they would not mind, without our gas they would feel bad, so it flows to "our friends" - Germans, Poles, etc.

      at least they object, at least they do not mind, we only need to sell gas. I am ashamed sad
    2. Petr1968
      Petr1968 2 February 2018 14: 37
      0
      Quote: monk
      They still would not mind, without our gas they would feel bad, so it flows to "our friends" - Germans, Poles, etc.

      The queue will be for that market if we leave !!! We will be replaced in 2 seconds. If not, why don’t we raise prices 2 ... no 10 times and fill the budget at the expense of OUR ENEMIES !!!! Therefore, at the expense of enemies, pensioners do not raise pensions in two or 10 times ??? !!!!
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 2 February 2018 09: 17
    +1
    Germany does not allow the “Kremlin report” to be drawn up in order to introduce additional sanctions against the Russian economy.

    It’s not troublesome disasters under the covers, and the merikathos stamps his foot — and they forget about what was said. Zolotishko is a little nonsense with the owner, at once he will let him to his needs, if it is still alive there ... bully
    1. 32363
      32363 2 February 2018 13: 31
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      Germany does not allow the “Kremlin report” to be drawn up in order to introduce additional sanctions against the Russian economy.

      It’s not troublesome disasters under the covers, and the merikathos stamps his foot — and they forget about what was said. Zolotishko is a little nonsense with the owner, at once he will let him to his needs, if it is still alive there ... bully

      You do not know the little mermaid that the Germans have already returned the gold ahead of the schedule by several years.
      1. aszzz888
        aszzz888 3 February 2018 03: 00
        +1
        ... not far away, look at how much and why NEMKURA returned, and how many tungsten ingots remained in the gilded foil from the merikatos, supposedly the "golden reserve" of the fourth Reich ... bully
        1. 32363
          32363 3 February 2018 12: 26
          0
          Quote: aszzz888
          ... not far away, look at how much and why NEMKURA returned, and how many tungsten ingots remained in the gilded foil from the merikatos, supposedly the "golden reserve" of the fourth Reich ... bully

          you to the rookies pouring into your ears and you are being fooled smile ..all the gold is already in Vaterland, and you read on the newspaper the truth)))
  10. slavaseven
    slavaseven 2 February 2018 11: 26
    0
    It is necessary to SEPARATE and RESPOND! I think so!
  11. Petr1968
    Petr1968 2 February 2018 14: 35
    +1
    We definitely need to rally around people who have fallen under sanctions .. if necessary, then financially. Behind each are ordinary people, millions.
  12. alex122
    alex122 2 February 2018 15: 49
    0
    Quote: Alex2048
    It seems to me that here it is possible from the Russian Federation to introduce (albeit not in 1-2 days), but gradually the following measures:
    1) To cease to recognize and generally somehow react to the decision of the courts outside the Russian Federation, having designated the priority of the laws of the Russian Federation on the territory of the Russian Federation in any relationship for future international treaties, old obligations will have to be fulfilled.
    2) Stop communicating with the European Union. Communication only at the level of individual states, and at the same time stop the activities of our delegations in all EU bodies.
    3) Introduce a direct legislative ban on concluding long-term contracts for the supply from the Russian Federation to other countries of energy, electricity, wood and wood products, minerals.
    4) Kick American diplomats through prison after initiating proceedings against them and at the same time conduct searches in US embassies in the Russian Federation, nationalizing the buildings and property of US embassies in the Russian Federation.
    5) Enter an analogue of the US list in which to indicate the company buying products which can be obtained sanctions from the Russian Federation.

    Lord, it’s good that no one listens to people like you

    We have more than half of the income from the export of resources, and you suggest not selling them)
    then we will replenish the budget from your pocket
  13. Petr1968
    Petr1968 5 February 2018 14: 31
    0
    I am for sanctions, they are in our favor !!! Salary is growing, loans are getting cheaper. More sanctions !!!