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Guide "Bogdan" (Ukraine): The military themselves are to blame for the breakdowns of ambulances

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The press service of the automobile manufacturing enterprise “Bogdan” (Ukraine) was forced to come up with explanations about the numerous complaints about the quality of the medical support vehicles supplied to the troops. We are talking about ambulances "Bogdan-2251", the delivery of which to the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the NSU was carried out by the authorities of Ukraine and the plant management with undisguised pride.


As soon as "Bogdan-2251" began to fall into the troops, their frequent breakdowns manifested themselves. Problems began to be found in the fuel system of ambulances.

The press service of the automotive industry of Ukraine declined responsibility for problems identified by the military, and at the same time shifted the blame for the frequent car breakdowns on the military itself.

The press service of the car factory said that the examination revealed the use of poor-quality fuel in the so-called “ATO” zone, which was the reason for the failure of certain sanitary Bogdanov units.

Guide "Bogdan" (Ukraine): The military themselves are to blame for the breakdowns of ambulances


From the press service of the company:
In samples of diesel fuel, mechanical impurities in the form of solid particles, as well as silty sediment and water were found. This suggests the use of low quality fuel. Fuel system breakdowns are also associated with the replacement of regular fuel filters with non-original counterparts during maintenance. Sanitary car "Bogdan" was approved for use in the APU after successful departmental tests and in the ATO area, which confirms the declared quality and compliance with the requirements of the military. Each serial car passes acceptance by the representative of the customer.


For reference: out of fifty vehicles 25 ambulances delivered to the troops have already broken down. They had to either be repaired on site, or sent back to the car factory.

About any recall "Bogdanov", as reported in the enterprise, we are not talking.
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  1. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 31 January 2018 07: 09 New
    +5
    "Bogdan" ... This is not the factory owned by one president? And how could he win the tender ?! Amazing! laughing
    1. Ushly_bashkort
      Ushly_bashkort 31 January 2018 07: 15 New
      +2
      It’s strange that they didn’t blame the successors at once, well, as they always do. And yes, factories belonging to Pedra win tenders with enviable regularity =)
      1. Thrall
        Thrall 31 January 2018 08: 45 New
        +2
        the military themselves are to blame for the breakdowns of ambulances

        and what, everything is logical:
        in the wounded - the wounded, and in the disease - the sick
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 31 January 2018 07: 19 New
      +1
      "Bagdanov" produces Cherkasy Automobile Plant. Part of the production belongs to Poroshenko. hi
      1. Clueless
        Clueless 31 January 2018 10: 10 New
        0
        He sold a stake. Another thing everyone understands where the money goes :)
    3. Spartanez300
      Spartanez300 31 January 2018 07: 25 New
      +2
      It is not surprising if you make two from one bucket of fuel.
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 31 January 2018 07: 51 New
        +4
        Vasily Alibabaevich with envy nervously smokes on the sidelines.
        1. SEER
          SEER 2 February 2018 03: 34 New
          0
          Quote: andrewkor
          Vasily Alibabaevich with envy nervously smokes on the sidelines.

          Vasily Alibabaevich did not have so many donkeys. and Poroshenko has several million, at least ...
      2. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 07: 56 New
        +9
        Quote: Spartanez300
        It is not surprising if you make two from one bucket of fuel.

        Do you know that the Rook can fly in diesel fuel if necessary? The flyers said - at first I did not believe it, I thought they were joking. Here is a sample of military equipment! And if military equipment can only ride on the 95-m Euro-5 - then what kind of military equipment is it in FIG? .....
        And the hidden ones are to blame, of course. They incorrectly exploit equipment for Petin - they ride it! The proper operation of Bogdan is to look at it, wipe it with a cloth and admire how Petya Potroshenko takes care of his ukrobanderovshchina.
        1. Svarog51
          Svarog51 31 January 2018 12: 04 New
          +2
          Alex, welcome hi
          In samples of diesel fuel, mechanical impurities in the form of solid particles, as well as silted sediment and water, were found. This indicates the use of low quality fuel.

          So it’s all clear - the “Queen of the gas station” is no longer the same. Ludmila Dobryecher quit; now Rogneda Karpovna is there with beer with one hand and shakes the solarium with the other.

          Sorry, I did not find another episode.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 16: 37 New
            +6
            Sergey, hi !
            Quote: Svarog51
            now there is Rogneda Karpovna one handed beer, the other solar shakes.

            Probably sometimes confusing. And Bogdan only goes for beer if you pump the ukrovoyak with that beer and then harness six of them to the Bogdan.
            1. Svarog51
              Svarog51 31 January 2018 19: 33 New
              +1
              Alexey hi
              and then harness them to the “Bogdan” with six trains

              And it began to play in the brain
              good drinks
            2. SEER
              SEER 2 February 2018 03: 45 New
              0
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Sergey, hi !
              Quote: Svarog51
              now there is Rogneda Karpovna one handed beer, the other solar shakes.

              Probably sometimes confusing. And Bogdan only goes for beer if you pump the ukrovoyak with that beer and then harness six of them to the Bogdan.

              no, not those went ukrovoiny. Six is ​​not enough in any way: give them "shishatsyat"! and the energy of the heat, too, is not enough for them ...
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 31 January 2018 08: 44 New
      +6
      How could warriors encroach on the holy laughing pocket of Pyotr Lyaksnich. repeat
    5. PalBor
      PalBor 31 January 2018 09: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergeant71
      "Bogdan" ... This is not the factory owned by one president? And how could he win the tender ?! Amazing! laughing

      There is not only one owner of the president, there are essentially no other manufacturers there.
      And in the Crimea, where there is still a lot of Bogdan beads, they are not compared with the house ... And the operators are not to blame, they are originally like that.
      1. Dedall
        Dedall 31 January 2018 21: 29 New
        +1
        PalBorand I like the Bogdan bus, in any case, the legs fit between the seats, there are two exits and I get to stand without bending into 3 deaths. But what is interesting is how the former Rostov governor Chub managed to organize the production of a cardboard box from Hyundai at his factory in Taganrog? Indeed, in fact, this pepelats does not comply with GOST "Automobile public transport". So little of this to force them to buy, fleets forced our gazelles to sell. Across the country. even films began to twist about the danger of our minibuses in accidents. Because of this, our GAZ almost went bankrupt.
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 22: 31 New
          +6
          Quote: Dedall
          ... a cardboard box from Hyundai? Indeed, in fact, this pepelats does not comply with GOST "Automobile public transport". So little of this to force them to buy, fleets forced our gazelles to sell.

          "Gazelle" is good for a limited number of trips for the weekend at 50-100 km from the house for fishing for the weekend. To take home the middle management (in the beginning of the 90 in Togliatti, one of the plants bought several Fords for this purpose, from which, at least outwardly, the Gazelle was later made). The intercity 100-200 kilometers is also nishtyak. How city transport "Gazelle" can not be used! With a height of about 190 and a weight slightly larger than 90, I do not fit in the Gazel route in any dimension. That's why I ride my Toyota eight-year-old, and if for some reason without a car (brandy “crashed” or the car crashed, which practically never happens) - I'll wait for something else or call a taxi, and I’ll miss the Gazelle ... I understand - not patriotic. But I compensate for the lack of patriotism with the PAZIK, and in the Gazelle three times folded like a carpenter’s meter, I won’t go ...
          1. Dedall
            Dedall 31 January 2018 22: 40 New
            +2
            We used to drive quite adequate gazelle models. And I’m 187 cm tall, but I don’t fit into these "Hyundai". But the "gazelle" has a normal suspension, which does not throw people on every bump. And I already wrote about the seats.
            By the way, one of my patients worked for us in the gazelle in Novocherkassk. So he said that after the order of the governor Chub to sell these cars, he saw his in Lugansk. There, she was happy with everything.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 23: 09 New
              +4
              Quote: Dedall
              We used to drive quite adequate gazelle models. And I have 187 cm growth, but I don’t fit into these "Hyundai" ones either. But the "gazelle" has a normal suspension, which does not throw people on every bump.

              I would not want to turn VO into a car forum, but since it is not so much about cars as patriotism in the auto industry, I’ll add.
              The roads in the city are not so bad that they can collect teeth on every bump. And fishing on the dirt road, broken by tractors - and me on RAV-4 decently decides. But in the "Pazik" I at least stand normally. And the “gazelists” also have a stupid habit of squeezing chairs to push extra seats. And I, in addition to complexion, still have age, injuries, broken bones, broken joints. If I get into such a "squeezed" "Gazelle", pull out only the Ministry of Emergencies lol ... That's why I go, if necessary, on anything but the Gazelle. Nothing personal, just not my size ...
              In general, not having a special love for Japan and the Japanese as a whole (even sushi, contrary to fashion, I do not like it), I like my RAV-4. I sit high, as in a chair - not “on the floor”, as in the “Camry” - to my broken knees, especially after 2-3 hours behind the wheel, this is very important. Volumetric, through the mud fishing slaps more or less, breaks EXTREMELY rarely (partly due to timely and high-quality regulations). With all my heart I would likeso that in our city of Tolyatti or in Ulyanovsk they would release something like that ... Alas, I probably will not survive. People do not live so much ...
              1. Dedall
                Dedall 31 January 2018 23: 21 New
                +2
                Sorry! But unfortunately, due to the low salaries of doctors in our country, I can not afford not only "Japanese" which, but also our "fret".
                But in general, I started the conversation about the Taganrog production of the “Hyundai” in the light of the plant’s belonging to the family of the former Rostov governor. It was his protectionism that allowed pushing the purchase of these trolleys by auto farms in the Rostov Region and adjacent areas.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 31 January 2018 23: 30 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Dedall
                  It is in light of the fact that the plant belongs to the family of the former Rostov governor. It was his protectionism that allowed pushing the purchase of these trolleys by auto farms in the Rostov Region and adjacent areas.

                  Now, when protectionism and bribery are deduced, then we will build, as Nikita promised, communism .... But how can you plague him? It is difficult to bring out bugs, but it is possible. But bribes and nepotism in Russia-nothing ....
                  I took the object the year before last in Samara, when they had a governor from Mordovia. So the guys-shift workers and suppliers said that with the arrival of the governor from Mordovia from Samara, he disappeared ALL cement, but Mordovian .... And once they had their own, Zhiguli. Like a beer .....
                  There you have the market, here is the competition ...
              2. SEER
                SEER 2 February 2018 03: 55 New
                +1
                Quote: Zoldat_A

                The roads in the city are not so bad that they can collect teeth on every bump. And fishing on the dirt road, broken by tractors - and me on RAV-4 shakes decently. And I, in addition to complexion, still have age, injuries, broken bones, broken joints. If I get into such a "squeezed" "Gazelle", pull out only the Ministry of Emergencies lol ... That's why I go, if necessary, on anything but the Gazelle. Nothing personal, just not my size ...
                ... In general, not having a special love for Japan and the Japanese as a whole, I like my RAV-4. I sit high, as in a chair - not "on the floor"
                Dear, let me have a recommendation? at the “parsing” get a seat from the SAAB 9000 or SAAB 9-5 air show. I am sure there is nothing better and you will like it and the body will say many thanks. not as advertising but health for ...
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 2 February 2018 23: 37 New
                  +5
                  Quote: SEER
                  Dear, let me have a recommendation? at the “parsing” get a seat from the SAAB 9000 or SAAB 9-5 air show. I am sure there is nothing better and you will like it and the body will say many thanks. not as advertising but health for ...

                  Thanks for the good advice, but if you only knew how for 8 years "the back of the body got used to the Japanese" orthopedic "... Yapps also understand something in this - not as much, of course, as Audi - eight you don’t poke servos into the chair, but the RAV-4 good equipment (orthopedic chairs mean) - it got into its “mold” and forgot - at home in the armchair in front of the TV or in the car ....
                  1. SEER
                    SEER 3 February 2018 00: 12 New
                    +1
                    I have a neighbor, 4 days after buying a new highlander, I decided to return it. and precisely because of urr .. sidushek.
                    this is not a joke.
                    Dear, just get to the "analysis" of the Saab and sit in that chair. after that you decide.
                    dear sorry, rav-4 and orthopedic chairs are bees against honey. I apologize again ....
                    I had a co-founder about five years ago who was still indulging in "Rav-4" - he liked everything, but the sidushki never excited him ...
                    1. Zoldat_A
                      Zoldat_A 3 February 2018 00: 18 New
                      +5
                      Quote: SEER
                      I had a co-founder about five years ago who was still indulging in "Rav-4" - he liked everything, but the sidushki never excited him ...

                      Depends on the configuration. I took with "orthopedists" and all eight years the "back of the body" says to me "thank you." In principle, I have nothing against Saab, I had to sit in 9000 - the Swedes are well aware of the matter. But specifically, 9000 and 9-5 do not suit me for the same reason as the Camry - more than 20 minutes on the floor can not stand broken knees. But RAV is not "on the floor", it is "on a stool" ....
                      1. SEER
                        SEER 3 February 2018 00: 21 New
                        0
                        everything, my surrenders! hi
                        be healthy, boyar!
        2. PalBor
          PalBor 1 February 2018 08: 23 New
          +2
          Yes, everyone is good. And deputy. The governor of the Rostov region is now our deputy, Ryazansky. We are proud, believe and wait. smile
  2. RussianUzbek
    RussianUzbek 31 January 2018 07: 16 New
    0
    As practice shows, the plant is not always to blame. Sometimes the operation does not even look at the chemotological map or pours out of the availability ... And what can I say for 404 so there is generally darkness.
    1. kirgiz58
      kirgiz58 31 January 2018 07: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: RussianUzbek
      Sometimes the operation does not even look at the chemotological map or fills out of the availability ...

      What kind of card are you talking about if the rear crews don’t even look into their barrels and pour whatever is in the tanks. For example, 4 brand new eighties have been snotted by me, the result is ... engines. I don’t scream at the Omsk tank.
  3. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 31 January 2018 07: 16 New
    +6
    I completely agree. The one who exploits is to blame for the breakdown. Now, if these “Bogdanchiks” were standing in the garage, no one started them and didn’t exploit them, then they wouldn’t break down ... But in general, here the Kremlin’s next sabotage can be traced ... wink
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 January 2018 07: 20 New
    +4
    Bogdan-God-given-this kind of phrasing was dishonored by the stupid! Her, this car would be called a "thistle" - hell blinded! fool
    1. andrewkor
      andrewkor 31 January 2018 07: 54 New
      +3
      The God-given in Uzbek will be Khudaibergen!
    2. Dedall
      Dedall 31 January 2018 21: 33 New
      +1
      Usually, their sons are single mothers. Like, God gave. So there is a direct analogy, but only China somehow does not resemble Yahweh.
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 31 January 2018 07: 23 New
    +3
    from fifty ambulances delivered to the troops

    Let them make resuscitation from them - spare parts from one, put on the other! laughing
  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 31 January 2018 07: 26 New
    +3
    Nifiga yourself they have additives. Donkey urine has not yet been diluted, Vasily Alibabaevich? Donkeys are fine.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 31 January 2018 11: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: iliitch
      Nifiga yourself they have additives. Donkey urine has not yet been diluted, Vasily Alibabaevich? Donkeys are fine.

      They only have pork on hand. Donkey is much better. Well, like the 72nd and 95th. laughing
  7. Herculesic
    Herculesic 31 January 2018 07: 28 New
    +4
    They are catastrophically short of gears on wheels, and here the chassis is suitable for such a "valuable load"! am
  8. Kerensky
    Kerensky 31 January 2018 07: 31 New
    +3
    I have carbureted 402nd engines on both cars. Kozlopiton 469 and Volgishche 310221. They eat everything, just everything ... Outside the 21st century! God-makers! What low-quality fuel!
  9. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 31 January 2018 07: 33 New
    +1
    Pans even cars really can not do, farmstead rogue. And do these still think of themselves as a "cosmic power"? Today I watched the review of Red Cynic on the film "Geostorm", so there in the comments the gallops jumped for joy that the ISS did not have a Russian flag.
    Injection pump in diesel engines is a very expensive thing, for example, for a TLK200, a new injection pump costs 50 thousand rubles, as much as the contract diesel engine itself! Therefore, people are not particularly keen to take diesel cars.
    1. Clueless
      Clueless 31 January 2018 10: 11 New
      +1
      Not keen on buying diesel cars? Kruzaki, Pradiki for the most part sold in Russia precisely diesel!
      1. Kot_Kuzya
        Kot_Kuzya 31 January 2018 10: 40 New
        0
        I live in the Far East, we have 95% of the Japanese cars here, and in winter we often have frosts of -30. Diesel does not start already with -15, and gasoline start up to -30. Therefore, people take gasoline cars, especially since they are warmer, since the engine is hotter and the interior heater warms better. In addition, our masters are sharpened for maintenance and repair of gasoline engines, there are few specialists on diesel engines, and they are more expensive. It is in Moscow and St. Petersburg, where in winter there is almost no lower than -15, it is advantageous to drive a diesel engine.
  10. LeonidL
    LeonidL 31 January 2018 08: 23 New
    +2
    These little cars are not for the army, not for off-road, not for war = so, wheelchairs for highways and city streets. and even then, not for those who are now in Ukraine.
  11. Kerensky
    Kerensky 31 January 2018 09: 16 New
    0
    Buy engines on dismantling in Rostov and carry the 200s.
  12. Altona
    Altona 31 January 2018 10: 34 New
    0
    "Bogdan" makes cars on the units and chassis of the Korean company Hyundai. Apparently, the quality of the manufactured equipment is also from this Korean word.
  13. Govorun
    Govorun 31 January 2018 11: 31 New
    +1
    Guide "Bogdan" (Ukraine): The military themselves are to blame for the breakdowns of ambulances
    It’s necessary to clarify a little that the WOUNDED military who are to be transported by cars and from which these cars break so often are to blame for the breakdown of these cars ....... and two questions creep in, 1-cars are too unreliable or 2-th Ukrainian army too many wounded .....