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Orenburg motorized infantrymen will be transferred to modernized BMP-2М

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The motorized rifle units of the Central Military District (TSO) deployed in the Orenburg Region will be equipped with upgraded BMP-2018М to replace the combat vehicles of previous modifications by the end of 2, the district headquarters reported on Tuesday.


Orenburg motorized infantrymen will be transferred to modernized BMP-2М


The upgraded infantry fighting vehicles will replace the armed BMP-1 and BMP-2
- said in a statement.

The rearmament of the Orenburg motorized infantry on the BMP-2М will begin in 2018, the BMP of the previous modifications will be gradually delivered to the storage bases, specified in the district headquarters.

Compared with its predecessors, the BMP-2M has a more advanced fire control system and a reinforced weapon system.

In addition to the 30-mm automatic cannon with a paired 7,62-mm machine gun PKTM, the armored vehicle was enhanced with the Attack anti-tank missile system, which will allow the motorized rifle subunits to carry out combat missions to combat armored vehicles
- noted in the press release.
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  1. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 30 January 2018 13: 38
    +4
    And why not on the BMN-3, which produced 350 units in recent years?
    1. x.andvlad
      x.andvlad 30 January 2018 13: 43
      +9
      Apparently, BMP-3 so far have gone to more dangerous directions. Over time, and these "deuces" will replace. Not all at once.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 30 January 2018 16: 00
        +5
        Quote: x.andvlad
        Apparently, BMP-3 so far have gone to more dangerous directions

        for the most part, the troika went for export. Cars were sent there many times more than in the native army there are (about 500 against more than 1200). Moreover, the machines of the latest modifications - as in Azerbaijan, for example.
    2. avt
      avt 30 January 2018 14: 08
      +4
      Quote: Sith Lord
      And why not on the BMN-3, which produced 350 units in recent years?

      ,, Deuces "in warehouses, like a fool shag. Actually, this is like upgrading the BTR-80 Well, yes
      Quote: x.andvlad
      Apparently, BMP-3 so far have gone to more dangerous directions

      Well, the option modernized in YOUR country, quite an argument for modernization abroad, is a trifle, but nice.
    3. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 30 January 2018 15: 20
      +4
      Another BMP-1 is in service ... they need to be replaced first. Deuces will still serve.
    4. Dreamboat
      Dreamboat 30 January 2018 15: 26
      +7
      Why bother producing hundreds of BMP-3s, which they still plan to abandon. Modernization of the existing 1.5 thousand BMP-2 is much more economical in the light of the planned withdrawal from the armament of both "twos" and "triples".
      And as a temporary measure - enhancing the combat is effectively the style of what is.
  2. moreman78
    moreman78 30 January 2018 13: 47
    +1
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    And why not on the BMN-3, which produced 350 units in recent years?

    That's exactly why - since they made only 350 pieces (this is only 2 brigades with a small one). If 1350 were made, then maybe it was equipped. And so it is necessary and BMP-2, and self-propelled guns MSTA, and acacia to modernize, and the tanks t-72 and t-80.
  3. Don
    Don 30 January 2018 13: 48
    +9
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    And why not on the BMN-3, which produced 350 units in recent years?

    And why not Kurganets? As a matter of fact, before 2020 there will not be any significant modern equipment delivered to the troops in significant quantities, nor Armata, nor Kurganets, nor Boomerang, nor T-50, etc. And how many promises and warnings were there that if we do not urgently do this, then will it be too late? But even if you want to believe the current government, it just doesn’t work out. In my eyes, she completely discredited herself.
    1. Berkut24
      Berkut24 30 January 2018 14: 55
      +8
      The current government is reasonably trying not to fit into the arms race, which at one time had reached the USSR. The fact that now they modernize is quite suitable for the implementation of current tasks. Moreover, the adversaries do not have any technological superiority in similar machines. It makes no sense for us to launch into the series what has not yet passed the stage of military trials. Hurry ... with the readiness of the F-35, you will make fun of the German submarines and British frigates.
      1. Grigory_45
        Grigory_45 30 January 2018 15: 01
        +3
        Quote: Berkut24
        The fact that now they modernize is quite suitable for the implementation of current tasks.

        why then developed the BMP-3, feel free to ask? How many years can a car not remind?
        Quote: Berkut24
        Moreover, the adversaries do not have any technological superiority in similar machines.

        You tell it to Puma and Bradley. Yes, even CV-35/40
        1. Berkut24
          Berkut24 30 January 2018 15: 08
          +1
          They were not convinced, the modification indicated in the article is not bad, but the “Bradley” is completely rubbish by modern standards.
          1. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 30 January 2018 15: 14
            +3
            Quote: Berkut24
            Not convinced

            Let the characteristics of the machines convince you.
            All of the above are not inferior to the "troika", there is no need to talk about the BMP-2 (even in a fashionable body kit)
        2. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b 30 January 2018 16: 09
          0
          Well what are you Gregory 45 BMP-3 we have something more for export to different Papuans, but this is loot, business .. It’s easier for yourself. You can look at the statistics for the past year
        3. svd-xnumx
          svd-xnumx 30 January 2018 21: 33
          0
          With Puma, there, too, is not going smoothly
          Armored combat vehicle "Puma" (German: Schützenpanzer Puma - "Puma") - German infantry fighting vehicle (BMP). The development and production of an experimental batch of BMPs is carried out by the Krauss-Maffei Wegmann (KMW) and Rheinmetall-Landsysteme (RLS) concerns.

          The project is implemented as part of a joint venture between both KMW and RLS. Since 2014, it was planned to supply a batch of 410 vehicles for the German ground forces, intended to replace the obsolete Marder infantry fighting vehicles. In 2012, the order was reduced to 350 units while increasing the cost of one BMP to seven million euros [4].

          The first samples of BMP "Puma" were delivered on December 10, 2010. Deliveries of serial Puma infantry fighting vehicles began on April 17, 2015 after an official statement by the inspector of the ground forces on April 13, 2015 on the adoption of the machine for service [5].
          In early July 2009, after receiving permission from the Bundestag commission, a contract was signed for the supply of four hundred and five Puma BMPs by the Rheinmetall concern for the German Ministry of Defense [6].

          Due to technical difficulties, up to 2012, it was planned to supply only ten infantry fighting vehicles, the tests of which should be evaluated and, if necessary, improved the combat efficiency of the machine. The completion of BMP shipments was postponed to 2020 [7].

          In July 2012, due to budgetary restrictions on the part of the German Ministry of Defense, a contract was changed to reduce the number of manufactured infantry fighting vehicles to 350 units. It was assumed that starting in 2014 mass production will be launched [8]. However, on October 18, 2013, the German Minister of Defense announced the test results that revealed significant flaws in the design of the machine, in addition, unstable operation of the electronics, poor visibility of the crew members, as well as a high mass of infantry fighting vehicles were noted. Deficiencies have been eliminated.
          As of December 16, only 100pcs were riveted.
          1. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 30 January 2018 22: 41
            +3
            Quote: svd-xnumx
            With Puma, there, too, is not going smoothly

            Nevertheless, since 2015, the “Cougars” have entered the Bundeswehr. You better not look at the parks that took place with its production, but at the car itself. I’m not a big fan of German weapons, but that “Puma”, that “Boxer” turned out very high
            The Germans, as far as we know, were not going to buy more than 200 Pumas for themselves
        4. tracer
          tracer 31 January 2018 16: 04
          0
          You have not even seen them closely. I’ve been here before and even more so now I see on the basis of the storage of the National Guard (not non-Russian). They are larger and higher and RPGs will easily burn through everything. Only getting into the big one is easier .. in my opinion a good solution. BMP 2 "prove" to the full development of the resource.
          1. Grigory_45
            Grigory_45 31 January 2018 20: 20
            +1
            Quote: tracer
            and RPG will burn everything easily

            Really Germans with Americans about DZ for “Cougars” and “Bradley” breach? Did you take photos in Photoshop, and did you shoot videos in Hollywood?
      2. 210ox
        210ox 30 January 2018 19: 58
        0
        And what did they make fun of? These are ready-made military units, but with jambs, it’s impossible to do without them (including with us. Do you recall the Redoubt?) This is all eliminated. And most importantly, they are in BUILDING. And we don’t have anything like that unfortunately. Especially in aviation and navy.
        Quote: Berkut24
        The current government is reasonably trying not to fit into the arms race, which at one time had reached the USSR. The fact that now they modernize is quite suitable for the implementation of current tasks. Moreover, the adversaries do not have any technological superiority in similar machines. It makes no sense for us to launch into the series what has not yet passed the stage of military trials. Hurry ... with the readiness of the F-35, you will make fun of the German submarines and British frigates.
  4. kapitan92
    kapitan92 30 January 2018 13: 51
    14
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    And why not on the BMN-3, which produced 350 units in recent years?

    BMP 2 in the period from 1980 - 1990. 15000 products of all modifications were manufactured. Replacing such a park is extremely difficult when finances sing romances. BMP 2M will still serve in the army.
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 30 January 2018 14: 10
      +1
      Yes, of course.
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 30 January 2018 16: 04
      +1
      Quote: kapitan92
      BMP 2 in the period from 1980 - 1990. 15000 products of all modifications manufactured

      riveted not only for themselves. And not only in the USSR. Plus they fought well. Nowadays there are about 5 thousand "twos" in the RA
  5. Essex62
    Essex62 30 January 2018 14: 11
    +3
    Quote: Donskoy
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    And why not on the BMN-3, which produced 350 units in recent years?

    And why not Kurganets? As a matter of fact, before 2020 there will not be any significant modern equipment delivered to the troops in significant quantities, nor Armata, nor Kurganets, nor Boomerang, nor T-50, etc. And how many promises and warnings were there that if we do not urgently do this, then will it be too late? But even if you want to believe the current government, it just doesn’t work out. In my eyes, she completely discredited herself.

    This government has other interests and tasks. Purely selfish and selfish, just look at the iPhone. What can you expect from liberalists-globalists? There are no borders for them, where the homeland is also fatter. In principle, upgrading the technology of previous generations is enough. New samples will be put into production at the second stage of Mahalov, if, God forbid, happen. We can fight on land only locally and not for long. Our main turnaround is nuclear weapons, with a predictable end result.
    1. kapitan92
      kapitan92 30 January 2018 14: 19
      10
      Quote: Essex62
      We can fight on land only locally and not for long. Our main turnaround is nuclear weapons, with a predictable end result.


      Strategist! laughing
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 30 January 2018 15: 46
        +5
        I didn’t want to, but they would devour us in a normal war very quickly. Who will fight - will it be when they put personnel? And who will make up for the broken equipment? Have you seen the current "fighters"? IPhone and beer ........ And mother squeeze this beer. The corruption of youth and adolescents to extreme indifference. They are so independent now that they will send any general, not to mention the lieutenant, on any journey. Tormented to mobilize. The government is not worth talking about. These will surrender everything.
        Keeping the Masons under constant vigilant aim is the key to the security of the Russian Federation.
        1. aws4
          aws4 30 January 2018 22: 08
          0
          Yes, I completely agree with you ... you very accurately described everything
      2. aws4
        aws4 30 January 2018 22: 10
        0
        I want myself such a chevron .. I’ll take a T-shirt and for the whole back I’ll fool myself ...
  6. Evil 55
    Evil 55 30 January 2018 14: 17
    0
    Another nonsense ... Each installation kit, in particular additional missile defense equipment, should be easily removable and installed with the least effort in the least time .. For during the battle
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 January 2018 14: 47
      +4
      Quote: Angry 55
      Another nonsense ... Each installation kit, in particular additional missile defense equipment, should be easily removable and installed with the least effort in the least time.

      And you take a closer look at the photo: each of the sections of the grilles is bolted to 4-6 brackets. So the damaged section changes relatively quickly: the old one is unscrewed, the bracket bends back to the old position with a sledgehammer, after which the new section is screwed. smile
  7. Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 30 January 2018 14: 19
    +1
    Again delay the rearmament. This modernization is nothing at all .... where is the BMP-3 ??? Or all at once then jump onto the Kurganets, T-15 and Boomerang ??? I doubt it very much .... somewhere until 2030, it’s for sure that the old equipment will still be in service ....
    1. karabas-barabas
      karabas-barabas 30 January 2018 14: 29
      0
      BMP3 is expensive and they still need to be done, and BMP2 dofiga, that’s being modernized. I believe BMP2 with additional protection has approximately the same level of protection as BMP3, and mine protection on both vehicles is not very good. But neither Kurganets25 nor Boomerang can be completed due to the sanctions. But in the parades they will be chased for a long time.
  8. Sergeant71
    Sergeant71 30 January 2018 14: 20
    +2
    I’m scared to think about what they used to have there if they were transplanted to the BMP-2M in 2018. I don’t even want to think.
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 30 January 2018 14: 40
      0
      So ... the article explicitly says - what they had:
      Upgraded infantry fighting vehicles will replace those in service BMP-1 and BMP-2
      1. Sergeant71
        Sergeant71 30 January 2018 16: 03
        +2
        I'm not talking about labeling. I'm talking about the LEVEL of equipment for 2018 in some parts. BMP-1 even my younger brothers, who served in the late 2000s, were not even seen.
        1. Alexey RA
          Alexey RA 30 January 2018 17: 27
          +1
          Quote: Sergeant71
          BMP-1 even my younger brothers, who served in the late 2000s, were not even seen.

          Lucky them. In the south of the BMP-1 were even in 2008, in combat-ready divisions - these vehicles were massively lit up in the war on 08.08.08.

          Afghanistan 80? No - South Ossetia 2008. sad
  9. Hadji Murat
    Hadji Murat 30 January 2018 14: 21
    0
    1st Separate Guards Motorized Rifle Omsk-Novobug Red Banner, Order of Bogdan of the Khmelnitsky Brigade - formation of the Ground Forces of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Conditional name - Military unit No. 12128 (military unit 12128). Short name - 21st Guards. Omsbr The formation is part of the 2nd Guards Army of the Central Military District. Point of permanent deployment - with. Totsk Orenburg region
  10. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 30 January 2018 14: 40
    +2
    In addition to the 30-mm automatic cannon with a paired 7,62-mm machine gun PKTM, the armored vehicle was enhanced with the Attack anti-tank missile system, which will allow the motorized rifle subunits to carry out combat missions to combat armored vehicles

    That is, they are not even re-equipped with a modernized BMP-2 with Berezhok? belay
    1. dnestr74
      dnestr74 30 January 2018 14: 50
      +2
      lattice welded, gave a new ATGM-here you have a new BPM)
    2. Grigory_45
      Grigory_45 30 January 2018 15: 51
      +4
      Quote: Alexey RA
      That is, they are not even re-equipped with a modernized BMP-2 with Berezhok?

      Of course not. On the "Berezhka" hang "Cornets" and in the appendage of the AGS is bolted. Do you see them? So I don’t see ..
      BMP-2M there were as many as three projects. As a result, two are still alive - the first with “Berezhok”, the second - with “Attacks”. In addition to the two "Attacks", overhead armored panels and gratings - nothing new with respect to the standard "two." In general, the military was not very inspired then, and this modification was considered more export - for all sorts of women who drive through the deserts and who have nothing more than an infantry fighting vehicle.
      Here it is, BMP-2M:
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 January 2018 17: 31
        +4
        Quote: Gregory_45
        Of course not. On the "Berezhka" hang "Cornets" and in the appendage of the AGS is bolted. Do you see them? So I don’t see ..

        Duc ... according to the declared "Attacks" I just realized that this was far from "Berezhok".
        Quote: Gregory_45
        In addition to the two "Attacks", overhead armored panels and gratings - nothing new with respect to the standard "two."

        Ultra-budget modernization. Against its background, even the T-72BZ seems to be a great solution. smile
        1. Ryazan87
          Ryazan87 30 January 2018 18: 40
          +3
          I completely agree. It is difficult to name this bottom and modernization. Unless in the sense of replacing the BMP-1 .. Honestly, I was hoping at least for the "Berezhok".
        2. alexmach
          alexmach 31 January 2018 00: 26
          0
          So "attack" is not the most important thing. On the "shore" it was also an automatic target tracking, laser target designator, rangefinder.

          This type of security is enhanced.
  11. dnestr74
    dnestr74 30 January 2018 14: 49
    +2
    With active field operation in combat use, all these gratings on the sides will fly around like husks from a bow. In Chechnya, half of the bulwark tanks broke off from 4s20 in a couple of months.
  12. Essex62
    Essex62 30 January 2018 15: 27
    0
    Quote: Berkut24
    The current government is reasonably trying not to fit into the arms race, which at one time had reached the USSR. The fact that now they modernize is quite suitable for the implementation of current tasks. Moreover, the adversaries do not have any technological superiority in similar machines. It makes no sense for us to launch into the series what has not yet passed the stage of military trials. Hurry ... with the readiness of the F-35, you will make fun of the German submarines and British frigates.
  13. Bronevick
    Bronevick 30 January 2018 16: 39
    +1
    Many ask why not Kurganets? It will only be a weapon of the information war for a long time, just like the T-14.
  14. Alexander War
    Alexander War 30 January 2018 16: 54
    +4
    Add video
  15. garnik
    garnik 30 January 2018 17: 04
    +1
    Nice car. The main thing is not to dwell on the experimental options, but massively modernized.