Media: the modernization of the heavy cruiser Peter the Great will begin in 2020

Repair and modernization of the heavy nuclear missile cruiser "Peter the Great" will begin in 2020 year before the completion of work on the same type "Admiral Nakhimov". It is reported by TASS, citing a source in the Russian defense-industrial complex (DIC).

"Peter the Great" will be repaired no later than 2020 of the year, it is expected that its modernization will take four to five years, that is, two times faster than that of Nakhimov. We hope that this will be possible thanks to obtaining the necessary funding.

- Said the source agency.

At the same time, the president of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (which includes Sevmash), Alexei Rakhmanov, in response to a request to comment on a possible change in the timing of the repair of the cruiser Peter the Great, stated that he does not have such information.

According to a source in the defense industry, it was originally planned to begin upgrading the Peter the Great after completing work on the Admiral Nakhimov in order to have at least one ship of this class in the Navy.

However, due to the delay in work on the "Nakhimov" until 2022, this is not possible - the operational resource of the flagship of the North fleet not enough to be afloat before this time

- explained the source.

According to sources in the military-industrial complex, in the course of the modernization it is planned to re-equip the 11442 cruisers with new Onyx, Caliber missiles and hypersonic Zircons (instead of the current Granites). Also on the ships, it is expected that modern anti-aircraft missile systems, communication systems, navigation, life support, etc. will be installed.

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[KVU-NSVD]

However, due to the delay in work at Nakhimov

Waiting for Zircon

[Nasrat]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Waiting for Zircon

Then you have to wait a long time ... how did they start modernization without having the main caliber?

[yehat]

they need only the dimensions of the installations and the interface of the control system for operation.
and onyxes themselves will be required only in 2025 at best.

[Nasrat]

Quote: yehat

... and the control system interface.

exactly..

[yehat]

it is in TK for onyxes.

[Nasrat]

God forbid ..

[gerkost2012]

Will the war wait until these or other means of destruction appear? The overhaul periods are “walking” and postponed because there are no workers, as well as engineers and technicians for the overhaul of ships of the first rank. Shifts of workers and craftsmen are carried from plant to plant, filling gaps so as not to disrupt the deadlines. This is the main problem. There are many "Menagers", but there are no real specialists!

[x.andvlad]

That's it! Nuts to twist and there is no one to cook seams. All in the “white collar" succumbed.

[vlad66]

We hope that this will be possible by getting the right funding.

Here it all rests, as well as

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Waiting for Zircon

[cniza]

Why give news about it, or rather news - Wishlist, did and told, or at least started to do.

[Lavrenti Pavlovich]

It smacks of sabotage.

[KVU-NSVD]

Does your nickname determine your train of thought? Keep standing guard Do not be offended - this is a joke

[Bourbon]

Quote: Lavrenty Pavlovich

It smacks of sabotage.

did you manage to sniff it? .... and if not a state secret, what does it smell like?

[starogil]

It’s cheaper and faster to lay new ones already today, but most likely - there are NO projects,
neither thoughts nor desires and means. But there are billionaires - bankers who refuse
finance programs of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.

[Alexey-74]

I do not think that in Zircon it is .... the whole thing is the preparedness of the shipyard and specialists, plus financing ....

[Grigory_45]

Quote: Alexey-74

I don’t think that in Zircon

and in it too. Do you need to include the cost in the estimate of work? Do you need to know the real characteristics? In our country, as usual, the co-executor promises equipment with a cubic meter mass per tonne, in reality it turns out three cubes and ten tons. And writhe then with this ... attach a "suitcase".
Although, no doubt, I agree - the thing, first of all, in financing

[Grigory_45]

and the Zircon is generally a strange rocket. Everyone heard about it (even that it supposedly finished testing and was about to be put into service), but no one saw, sir ... It's a stealth rocket, literally invisible

[Bourbon]

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Quote: KVU-NSVD

Waiting for Zircon

who? .... waiting for what is not ?? !! ....

[NEXUS]

Quote: KVU-NSVD

Waiting for Zircon

Not only ... but also the soaked S-500, as well as Polement-Redoubt ...

[Alex777]

Waiting for Zircon

They were waiting for him on Ushakov, but alas ...

[cap-lei]

More used Lazarev also modernized ..

[Nasrat]

Quote: kap-lei

More used Lazarev also modernized ..

This is only possible by 2050 .. when to learn to clone ships ..

[Alex777]

If in 2020, together with Peter, they do not begin modernization, it would be safe to put an end to Lazarev.

[yehat]

it would be nice to redesign the line-up - to make a huge self-propelled barge, studded in the front with vertical shafts, and behind - the main part of the superstructures.

[Alex777]

For your money - please.

[yehat]

What does your money have to do with it ???
can you imagine how much easier it is to modernize a barge-like structure than what is now? He is now being modernized for 5-7 years in his best dreams.
And the Chinese recently upgraded another layout 2.5 months. that's where the difference is.

[Herculesic]

The great Staneslavsky correctly said - "I do not believe"!

[gerkost2012]

K S. StanIslavsky ... That he said to the actors "I do not believe."

[aliis-M]

And rightly you did not bother

[Nemesis]

You will first repair two similar cruisers that are no longer on the move ...

[Mountain shooter]

The first-class nuclear cruiser is the coolest ship. In combination with satellite constellation, aviation and other ships - it poses a serious danger to any fleet in the world.

[yehat]

The main thing is to book, hang a ram and paint over the viewing screens of the cabin.
then it really will become dangerous for any fleet in the world))
interesting are his chances against the mountain fleet of Bangladesh ...

[mvg]

Chasing pirates in Somalia is just that. I just drove ... But how can Granite get a boat for 300 tons, so in general !. Can you tell me why it is cooler than a gas-turbine destroyer at half its displacement, a quarter of the cost, and with the same (minimum) weapons? Like Burke or King SeJuy?

[yehat]

Well, firstly, weapons are very different. I don’t say better or worse - it’s just a lot different. Orlan’s radars are more pleasant, including because of the height. Combat stability is higher due to the fact that there are many parallel systems, better survivability. There are a lot of places, you can put a lot of different systems. Seaworthiness and autonomy are much higher. (read why Alaska and Montana have such a large displacement) Etc. Differences of the sea. A large ship has many advantages.
The main thing is not to rest on its optional disadvantages, which, alas, are not enough.

[bazzbazz]

This is for a long time again .... Sorry for not being competent, but someone can explain, but why universal launchers for modern weapons cannot be made so as not to modify the ship for 5 years. Installing them is somehow simpler, in a modular way, even on the deck. Let not beautiful, but quickly and cheaply. After all, I think Peter the Great does not make sense to think about stealth technologies) And if a war happens then they loaded modules with s-400 / c-500, beeches and tori. and also Onyx "," Caliber "and" Zircon ".. on any ship and forth, sink aircraft carriers! Now the war will be at a distance, they will not shoot at point-blank range from cannons.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: bazzbazz

This is for a long time again .... Sorry for not being competent, but someone can explain, but why universal launchers for modern weapons cannot be made so as not to modify the ship for 5 years.

You can - Mark 41 is an example. But then all subsequent missiles will have to be trampled into the dimensions of these universal launchers. It seems to me that the notorious supersonic LRASM-B hacked at the design stage, subject to all the requirements of the technical specifications, simply did not go into the cell.
We now have 2 types of universal UVP - 3S14 for anti-ship missiles / SLCMs and Redutovskaya for missiles.

Quote: bazzbazz

Installing them is somehow simpler, in a modular way, even on the deck. Let not beautiful, but quickly and cheaply.

And get a headache with stability, inclined start (I hope you do not offer to put UVP on deck ), gas venting, local deck and deck reinforcements, etc., etc.

[Vadim851]

Maybe you should wait until the end of the repair of Nakhimov and put it into operation, then put Peter the Great for repair. And then, against the background of Kuznetsov’s repair, the immediate retirement of two ships of the ocean zone is not good. They are already very few.

[Tests]

Dear, and in Severodvinsk the magpies are cracking what they are waiting for when Kalistratov will hand over cases at Zvyozdochka, and there the RF IC will initiate criminal proceedings against Zvyozdochka, Sevmash, and a good dozen counterparty enterprises. It seems like the truth ... In Arkhangelsk, last week, all the media described how they tested two ships of the A-217/1 project on the Northern Dvina. Those ships were launched in Zelenodolsk already in 2014. Winter is warm today. Moms with babies from Kegostrov, from Khabarka, from Brevennik to the center of Arkhangelsk at -12 with a breeze for admission to pediatricians and other narrow specialists all get to the open decks of tugboats, there are no specialist doctors on the islands of Arkhangelsk, although there are medical academies in Arkhangelsk.

[jjj]

Well, the medical academy in Arkhangelsk has long been in the status of a university. The director at Zvezdochka is no longer Nikolai Yakovlevich. Workers on the Zvezdochka are even taken from Arkhangelsk by rented buses. It will be necessary, the case will be untwisted. The main thing is that the bridge to the Yagry from the mainland does not collapse

[Tests]

jjj, dear, yes, the bridge to the Yagry is the funniest problem of all that faces the enterprises of Severodvinsk. Maybe you remember that the train to Nyonoksu left the Severodvinsk station at 07:00, and later, to transport people from Morskaya Avenue to the station, the train went at 07:10. Everyone who went to the "Arctic", to the "Sevmash" through the White Sea shift, they used it with pleasure and waited for the trolleybus to be launched into the Gorvagon cars and in the new zhode. The bridge will collapse - everyone will be transplanted to

[Tests]

I apologize - something my comp has flung out. If the automobile bridge collapses, the people of Yagry will enter the new railway line. the bridge will be delivered. But the lack of labor reserves in the Arkhangelsk and Vologda regions is a problem. Talk to the directors of technical schools - former PU № 1 and 28, TU № 3. With difficulty, they recruit children for working specialties. Talk in the former Polytechnic - howl from the grays of the trainees, there is no one to choose from, just to complete the recruitment plan. I didn’t fulfill the plan - I received money for it. However, capitalism ... Yes, the same story in schools - per capita financing. Try to put the teacher in front of the shaker 2 or 1, draw 3, just to get out of grade 9. A few days ago, I recalled how Kalistratov and Orlov in the multimillion-dollar criminal case brought by the tax police made Mr. Tikhonov an extreme. Do you know that sad story?
Workers are transported from Arkhangelsk, already from Solombala, to Zvezdochka by bus. Why? Yes, the "Red Forge" is barely alive. So what, you don’t remember that workers also carry buses from Severodvinsk to Laysky Dock?
I admit a mistake, long ago in Arkhangelsk SSMU, and not AGMA. A seasoned bribe taker Pasha Sidorov loved free budget money. And the status of the University is constant budget injections. It’s only on Brevennik there weren’t even a few first-aid posts for several years. And under the Byak Communists, there was a small hospital, and a children's clinic and an adult. And the ferry (for cars) ran every hour from the 14th timber mill and 6-8 times a day the ship at the crossing Lesnoy port - 14 timber mill. And the island of Brevennik is not the farthest outskirts of the regional center.
And the law on public procurement, adopted, according to many, only to ensure that the FAS has shown its need - is it the salvation of the Russian defense industry ?! With what fanfare, in the presence of the TV men, Mr. Budnichenko and his comrades laid bright red bricks on the second building of Building 7 on the Embankment of the Kudma River. .And last week, all city channels showed how an excavator knocks those bricks off the foundation, and almost the entire 1st floor was pulled out. But, the company that won the competition didn’t manage to bring equipment and people to the Far North for financial reasons, but they could not recruit masons, installers and crane operators in Severodvinsk and Arkhangelsk. The terms of delivery of the house are profiled, the quality of work is awful. And so, not only in the construction of houses for Sevmash workers. In the supply of the competition for the main production - the picture is the same. Remind Novik? And I also have to remind you of what they wrote on the site many times. Cronyism is a slow death for both Sevmash and Zvyozdochka, and especially the Arctic. There are no new personnel from other cities, housing problems in the city for young professionals, and the salary is not the sweetest in the first 3-5 years. .. Here in September I got to the City Council from “Sevmash Team” Roma Varfolameyev. What did this “engineer” on the flagship of shipbuilding in Russia do? From the administration he worked on a collective agreement. In the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, the procedure for developing and signing a collective agreement is spelled out clearly and clearly. And the rest of the years, why did this “engineer” go for a salary? And how do the number of choreographers, accompanists, sound engineers, costume and lighting artists in the Shipbuilder’s House and the Zvyozdochka Research and Development Center affect the speed and noise of the Russian nuclear submarines? And they all receive a salary from the State Defense Order. So a year or two and “Borey” for the price will become like “Virginia” ... I apologize for the long post, but the pink glasses in the defense are dangerous for the life of the country. Apart from Sevmash, nobody is making boats today.

[jjj]

There are no pink glasses. I remember Kalistratov as an energetic normal man. And brave. Once, when the landing gear of the “Talag” landing gear didn’t come out and the business was in serious danger, the well-known David Huseynovich who was in the cabin panicked, but he was the Hero of Russia, and Nikolay Yakovlevich kept his composure until the very end of the emergency landing.
Of course, I do not know about one Severodvinsk history or even more than what you have described. But I think that people cannot be kicked just like that. The same Kalistratov is already old and sick. Yes, he made mistakes. But he is already in such a state when it is necessary to take care of the soul.
Every big deal never goes smoothly. It is accompanied by all sorts of violations, stupidity, greed and crime. But these are the trees behind which is the forest. Boats are being built, the best nuclear boats in the world. And the youth is gradually getting better. And how many new houses appeared in the old city. I have repeatedly suggested that my children move from Severodvinsk. There is an opportunity to become St. Petersburg. And they look at me like an idiot. Apparently, they understand something better in life.

[Grigory_45]

modernization will take four to five years

m-ya ... especially when you consider that the time from laying the ships to putting the fleet in was 6 years

[weddu]

By the year 21, there should be 2 cruisers of this type in service. I'm not talking about modernization at all ...