Bloomberg announces second liquefied gas tanker for US

The second tanker - Provalys - with liquefied natural gas (LNG) from Russia is preparing to be shipped to the US, to its destination, it should arrive around February 15, reports RIA News Post by Bloomberg.

Provalys will take gas from the French Dunkirk, which was previously delivered from Russia, and go with it to New England (northeastern United States), which is in need of gas due to insufficient supply of shale fuel from other parts of the United States during the peak demand season.

For the past three years, the United States has received LNG from Trinidad and Tobago. However, too cold winter in the north-east of the country forced to purchase additional volumes of gas. The seller was the French energy giant Engie. Fuel was produced at the Yamal LNG project.

The first tanker with Russian liquefied gas - Gaselys - is currently in line at the entrance to the Boston port. The ship was supposed to arrive in the USA on January 20, however, the day before it suddenly turned around and headed for the Spanish port of Algeciras. These "maneuvers were temporary and were associated with weather conditions," explained later in the company Engie.

On Wednesday, Energy Minister Alexander Novak, commenting on the supply of Russian gas to the United States, noted that he “does not have euphoria or special feelings that gas will be delivered to Boston,” since the gas molecules are Russian, “but the gas is no longer Russian.”

Comments

[Anarchist]

Freeze, freeze the wolf tail! God marks the assault ... Here you are, grandmother, and sanctions. Everyone is trying to eat a fish, but no, on a tanker with liquefied gas Ride!

[264]

Do not rejoice at the misfortunes of others, Bratishk ... Do not comme il faut ...

[Anarchist]

Buddy , I am not happy ... Unless I am only ironic. It is they who rejoice at each of our failures. Which, by the way, they create for us!

[The black]

Russia to the lamp, who will buy our gas, the money received. The main thing is that the gas company in Yamal is running smoothly. Three icebreaking gas carriers are being built right away and solid contracts with Asian countries have been signed for this business, but for now only a test of the pen.
I won’t be surprised if this gas is now sold to Poland and Lithuania, that they are trying to give up cheap gas from Russia with foam at their mouths and have managed to build terminals for Amer’s liquefied gas

[AnpeL]

Will such a vessel reach

- Provalys -

What do you call a boat so it will float)

[Separ DNR]

- Provalys -

Quote: AnpeL

What do you call a boat so it will float)

Failure, this is for the USA ... But tankers need to be called sanctions...

[bulvas]

We will be happy when our tankers deliver our product to the final customer.

I suspect that intermediaries and shipowners also earn a lot

Why not make money yourself

[Separ DNR]

Quote: bulvas

We will be happy when our tankers deliver our product to the final customer.

I suspect that intermediaries and shipowners also earn a lot

Why not make money yourself

To the point But for this you need to build tankers ...

[bulvas]

Quote: Separ DNR

But for this you need to build tankers ...

It seems to be starting soon

[kapitan92]

Quote: Separ DNR

Failure, this is for the USA ..

And what is the failure? Novatek did not and does not have direct contracts for the supply of LNG to the States. From Yamal, gas goes to Europe, in this particular case, France. In the spot market, it can be purchased by any buyer, in this case, the United States, and England in front of the mattresses. Gas from Yamal can be overloaded, “mixed” with the local one, placed in storage facilities and with an increase in prices, which happened to be sold.
Normal business! We, when selling, received our own, our carrier, our French.
The shareholders structure of Yamal LNG Open Joint Stock Company as of 01.01.2017:

NOVATEK (50,1%)
Total (20%)
China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC) (20%)
Silk Road Fund (9,9%).

[maxim947]

Well, why the lamp? The more buyers there are, the better, what can be said to be there. And the example of the purchase of gas by Merikos is a very indicative response to the proposals of the United States to fill Europe with gas, and here it turns out they themselves are not enough. By the way, yes, in terms of the sale of this gas to Psheks and the like, it is very likely))

[Lesorub]

Unprincipled state, States tighten sanctions,
We give them gas (interesting for money or as usual)! ))))

[bulvas]

Quote: Lesorub

Unprincipled state, States tighten sanctions,
We give them gas (interesting for money or as usual)! ))))

And you look from the other side:

- they are sanctions to us, and we are money with them

why such an exchange is bad

[Lesorub]

Yes, you are right in the United States gas, maybe even for the money - which is great !! - I’m happy for the next moneybags!)))))

[bulvas]

Quote: Lesorub

Yes, you are right in the United States gas, maybe even for the money - which is great !! - I’m happy for the next moneybags!)))))

So, the thicker the moneybags, the more people get his salary and the more taxes he pays to the budget

[Separ DNR]

Quote: bulvas

the thicker the fat bag - the more people he gets paid and the more taxes he pays to the budget

Taxes, this is such a thing ... You can hide

[bulvas]

Quote: Separ DNR

Taxes, this is such a thing ... You can hide

Would you rather get a piece of the Arctic for personal use,
so that no one would hide anything and the moneybags would not become even thicker?

[Separ DNR]

Quote: bulvas

Would you rather get a piece of the Arctic for personal use,
so that no one would hide anything and the moneybags would not become even thicker?

My preferences, at the moment, come down to the return of the occupied territories of Donbass.
We will talk about my claims to a part of the Arctic after the victory

[Lesorub]

Quote: bulvas

So, the thicker the moneybags, the more people get his salary and the more taxes he pays to the budget

Weak foreign policy (not the ability to more clearly see your face on the world stage, and unprincipledness) - I think there is no need to give examples, losses in the foreign economy - compensate for the population of this country)), but when it was written in the constitution that the bowels belong to the people, (so to speak), for the moneybags - salaries and taxes - dust - compared to its net profit.

[bulvas]

Quote: Lesorub

Weak foreign policy (not the ability to less clearly show your face on the world stage, and unprincipled)

Do you understand foreign policy well?
Do you know all the true goals of the players, do you have information?
Maybe you have a research center, analysts, agents, specialists in different regions of the world?

And therefore, are you ready to judge this as a specialist?
Or, after all, as a layman, like most of us?

Just grumble to show that you are a layman, but you have your opinion on this issue (as well as on all others)

Last few questions:
- What is the weakness of our foreign policy?
- what is unprincipled?
- Is there still someone on Earth who does not recognize our face?

Just imagine, the US is pushing Europe against SP-2, and they themselves are buying gas from Russia

What do you think, what conclusions will be drawn in Europe, in Lithuania, in Poland?

[Lesorub]

I don’t have a secret - in the World I respect the strong (strong economically, armed, with a clear foreign and domestic policy, with complementary economic and social projects), I think you understand what the United States would do if Turkey shot down their plane - the Turks would talk about it spared three generations ahead, We have the same business interests of several people with the above-dignity)), with such a policy, Poland and Lithuania will soon push, For the oppression of Russians in the Baltic states and "other" countries, I generally keep quiet! Compare (who defends their interests and how) - let the truth be revealed))))

[Orionvit]

Quote: Black

I won’t be surprised if this gas is now sold to Poland and Lithuania.

Ha. But what about the promises of the "exceptional," to flood Europe with American shale gas? There is a “reverse” in Ukrainian when Russian gas is bought in Slovakia, and now there will be a reverse in Polish when Russian gas will be bought in the states themselves. But that’s cool, I’m really bastard.

[Evgeniy667b]

Gas was Russian while it was in the bowels. Then it was extracted by Gazprom (a company in our territory, but pursuing its narrow interests), after which it became the property of the shareholders of this company, living not only in the Russian Federation. Some part was received by the citizens of the Russian Federation who carried out the extraction and transportation, part came in the form of taxes. And how this part is spent, the conversation is separate. But what does the rest of Russia have to do with it, is the question very interesting? The very same statistical 90% of the population?

[bulvas]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

But what does the rest of Russia have to do with it, is the question very interesting? The very same statistical 90% of the population?

In order not to ask such questions and reassure yourself,
you need to study the economy a little, at least at the most popular level

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

Gas was Russian while it was in the bowels. Then it was extracted by Gazprom (a company in our territory, but pursuing its narrow interests), after which it became the property of the shareholders of this company, living not only in the Russian Federation.

Yes, if “Gazprom”, otherwise Novatek Michelson

[max702]

Quote: Evgeniy667b

The very same statistical 90% of the population?

Only 40-50 thousand builders work in Sobet, plus those who service and procure the whole thing, and all with very big salaries that they spend in cities and towns of Russia .. But people all over the country live and work for this money .. And if it weren’t for this gas project, instead of this money there would be ZERO ... And who cares if this project exists and works?

[Petr1968]

Quote: Black

Russia to the lamp, who will buy our gas, the money received. The main thing is that the gas company in Yamal is running smoothly.

This is the essence of the liberals. No honor, no conscience. ready mother to sell for money.

[Giant thought]

To paraphrase a famous proverb - cold is not an aunt. Freezing Americans are happy with any gas, even from where, and delivering our gas to America for Engie is just a business, and nothing personal.

[vlad66]

Quote: 264

Do not rejoice at the misfortunes of others, Bratishk ... Do not comme il faut ...

You can say exactly the same thing with mattresses, the worse for us, there it is happier for them.

[264]

Do not be like them, Vlad, and you will be happy ... Remain a Man ...

[vlad66]

Quote: 264

Do not be like them, Vlad, and you will be happy ... Remain a Man ...

In general, it’s violet to them somehow, but I don’t like when strangers come to a strange house and start to teach democracy to everyone, this is a disaster, and the fact that they got -15 turned off and they froze is Lesha’s joke We are now waiting for such a winter, you believe not, for the whole winter this year it did not fall below 10 degrees, and all winter went to Siberia and you.
Our children over there are dreaming that -30 would hit, that would not go to school, but run to the street.

[264]

Samara river. Winter. 2018.7526 with us ...

[woron333444]

vlad66 I remember those times. It was like this with us until 1973. As they walked, jumping over wires and climbing home like in a hole. And 73-74 snow became less. Only the winds are stronger. And they did not go to school only when it was more than -40.

[figwam]

Quote: 264

Do not rejoice at the misfortunes of others, Bratishk ... Do not comme il faut ...

Immediately you are not a Russian person. So that you know, winter is not a disaster, it is such a time of year.

[264]

No, of course, where are we ... You made me a day, thank you most humbly, gentleman.

[figwam]

And I laugh as the Yankees impose sanctions against my country and European companies that develop and produce gas, and then buy the same gas, despite the shale revolution. Clowns.

[Bourbon]

Quote: figvam

And I laugh as the Yankees impose sanctions against my country

Quote: figvam

and then they buy the same gas

it’s business, not politics, so sometimes you’d better not to post stupidity. It’s normal that they buy gas, since it costs them less than you, in our rich Russia .... and now you will laugh?

[woron333444]

I don’t know about you, but we have a house of 140sq.m heating + stove + hot water boiler costs 1600r per month. This is during severe frosts, and when -20, then 1300-1200. This is Altai. I find it cheap.

[Bourbon]

Quote: woron333444

I don’t know about you, but we have a house of 140sq.m heating + stove + hot water boiler costs 1600r per month.

I wonder how much the cube costs, and not how much you pay .... now a bunch of magnets that counters either stop or slow down 3 times ...

[woron333444]

I am drowned in coal, and a relative near Barnaul in the village with gas. I was there on January 7 and asked how much they pay for gas. It costs 13000 rubles for coal. It’s more profitable to gas and do not carry ash, but in the spring to take it to a landfill. I also have 140sq.m. So I compare.

[Bourbon]

Quote: woron333444

I'm drowned in coal

Then why write how much you pay to the GAZ branch ??

[woron333444]

I am writing about Altai. We have in Altai.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Burbon

they buy gassince he they are cheaper than you, in our rich Russia ..

Lies...

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Lies.

justify, if literacy is enough

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Burbon

justify

Learn to write without errors first.
Learn - come in and talk.

Quote: Burbon

if enough is enough literacy

[Orionvit]

Quote: Burbon

since it costs them cheaper than you, in our rich Russia

Figures please. And with regard to the states, since everything is practically free for them, the printing press is still working.

[Petr1968]

Quote: Orionvit

Figures please. And with regard to the states, since everything is practically free for them, the printing press is still working.

Yes, they have communism, everything is free))))))

[figwam]

Bourbon

Staaa !!! What business!? The Yankees shouted to the whole world that they had made a shale revolution and now gas would be available not only in the United States, they would provide them with the whole of Europe along with the outskirts, but in reality they didn’t even have enough for themselves. Here's a business, they freeze, and then they start to hurt.

[Bourbon]

Quote: figvam

Here's a business, they freeze, and then they start to hurt.

lies....

[Des10]

Thank you for feeling it yourself, but could not say!)

[Thrall]

This is decommunized reverse french gas

[aszzz888]

Anarchist Today, 10:05 AM New
Freeze, freeze the wolf tail!

As you can see, the main enemy of the meriticosia does not allow them to freeze ...

[Anarchist]

We save from the attack of our own ally ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Yet God helps Russia at the most critical moment for our country ..!

Shale vaunted gas, did not save the USA .. hehe
Russia is a generous soul! We are not vindictive gentlemen, we will help, but for a fee now ..

[Bourbon]

Quote: MIKHAN

but for a fee now.

which one? .... obviously less than for an internal consumer somewhere in Yakutsk

[SEER]

Quote: Burbon

Quote: MIKHAN

but for a fee now.

which one? .... obviously less than for an internal consumer somewhere in Yakutsk

the numbers have already asked you.
for reference, the cost of a cube of gas in the Moscow region is from 5,14 to 6,638 rubles.
How much does LNG cost for “partners”?

[Ren]

Quote: Burbon

which one? .... obviously less than for an internal consumer somewhere in Yakutsk

[Ren]

Quote: Dali

Well ... but then it's all the so-called gas "from the pipe" - and now try to calculate LNG ... only the source of wholesale prices and payment to the studio ...

I gave my answer on 20.11.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX.
Additionally, gas price information is taken from http://www.gazprom.ru/about/marketing/europe/
It states that average selling price gas in 2016 to foreign countries (net of VAT, excise tax and customs duties) 11 763,3 rub./ 1000 cu m
I think that the average gas selling price in 2017 will be commensurate with prices for domestic Russian consumers, i.e. of order 9 000 rub./ 1000 cu m
https://rg.ru/2017/01/19/gazprom-ozvuchil-sredniu
iu-cenu-gaza-dlia-evropy-v-2017-godu.html

[Dali]

Quote: Ren

Quote: Burbon

which one? .... obviously less than for an internal consumer somewhere in Yakutsk

I can also write anything ....


I will write differently ... in connection with your new answer ...
1) You indicated that "(net of VAT, excise tax and customs duties) 11 763,3 rubles / 1000 cubic meters - abroad" - the question is what is the price ?! Awww ...
Are you a Troll or something ... I did not clearly express myself earlier ... and the calculation of the final price in the studio for the end user in Europe !!! So with her and compare the final price for a consumer in Europe with the final consumer in Yakutia - although why only for Yakutia ?!
For example, in St. Petersburg for 1000cub 5747,79 rubles

2) "you think" ... only for arguments it is necessary in this case it is not necessary to make an extra-self of yourself "he thinks the watchers" , and give real numbers ... once again ... calculating the average price for residents of Rosiii in the studio
3) Yes, ask what it means "minus VAT, excise tax and customs duties" ... so to speak, to start calculating the final price for a resident of Europe. And of course the source of wholesale prices and the calculation of the final price for a resident of Europe in the studio ...

Well, I’ll repeat it again ... but it’s all the so-called gas “from the pipe” - and now try to calculate the LNG and the cost of gas again for a resident of Europe from that obtained from LNG ... And again, the calculation in the studio ...

... and then "... not bags to carry and I can"

[Ren]

Quote: Dali

For example, in St. Petersburg for 1000cub 5747,79 rubles

In St. Petersburg, it is simply mined, so the price is so low.
But in Siberia and Yakutia there is no gas, and it probably has to be transported from St. Petersburg, which is why it comes out more expensive.
Omsk Region - 7430.00 / 1000 cubic meters;
Novosibirsk Region - 5450.00 / 1000 cubic meters;
Kemerovo region - 5080.00 / 1000 cubic meters .;
Jena for gas for the population in many respects also depends on local authorities, and the appetites of Gazprom suppliers can restrain them.
In Belarus, for example, the price of gas for the population during the heating period is 2876,46 rubles / 1000 cubic meters (101,5 white rubles);
in the summer period - 9281,19 rubles / 1000 cubic meters (327,5 white rubles)

[SEER]

Quote: Ren

Quote: Burbon

which one? .... obviously less than for an internal consumer somewhere in Yakutsk

"Due to the severe cooling, gas demand in the eastern states has seriously increased, and prices have risen to $ 6,3 thousand per 1 cubic meters."
https://news.mail.ru/economics/32383833/?frommail
=1

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Ren

Quote: Burbon

which one? .... obviously less than for an internal consumer somewhere in Yakutsk

If you are already taken to refer to something, read what is written there to the end

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Ren

in Yakutia, the Far East, most of Siberia (Center, South, East) gas is sold to the population at comparable prices to export

Standard error: you confuse the wholesale price of gas "in the pipe" with its price for the end user (in your apartment, for example).
"In the apartment" the price grows by the cost of servicing the gas distribution network and just delivery to the apartment.
This is at least there is no time to collect everything in a heap.
If interested - I will find you the cost of gas for the population in the same Poland-Germany. You will be surprised, probably, but it is much larger than those "150 for 1000 cubes" that you mentioned

Something like this ...

[novel66]

as one character rightly remarked
oh, in vain we feed him! the kindest

[Semyonych]

This is an invasion !!!!!!! Russians are coming!

[Deck]

Joyful for our gas molecules

[Observer2014]

All of these LNG, tankers. Of course it's good. Probably and profitable. Until someday such a tanker will explode in the port. And at once everyone will remember that a gas pipe can only be longer than a gas pipe.

[d ^ Amir]

Well, the pipe can also ... and how it can !!!! it's really not a trunk pipeline, but .....
https://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/5a6b07cd9a794709d9
419598

[Chertt]

I was interested in this question. LNG cannot explode. At least without very serious help.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Observer2014

And right away everyone will remember that a gas pipe can only be even longer than a gas pipe.

This is for the consumer. For Europe. Although they are sure that this is not so. But for the manufacturer, on the contrary, LNG is much more profitable.

[san4es]

Quote: Spade

... for the manufacturer, on the contrary, LNG is much more profitable.

... for the "carriers", too

[Lopatov]

Quote: san4es

For the "carriers", too

And this is true. Still, a tanker is cheaper than a pipe. And in principle, it can be redone.

And the construction of the pipe requires guarantees for its filling. otherwise it may not pay off

[san4es]

Quote: Spade

a tanker is cheaper than a pipe. And in principle, it can be redone.

... Hardly (expensive) ... It's just that there is no pipeline.
Semi-empty, also not profitable - a lot of expenses

[Lopatov]

Quote: san4es

Semi-empty, also not profitable - a lot of expenses

This is another issue for LNG customers. They buy volumes on the exchange, and at the same time have to attend to their transportation. A tanker can go half empty. Just the buyer will pay for it.
I remember that Ukrainian patriots beat their heels in the chest, shouting "LNG is cheaper than Russian gas, we will buy it." And that was just that. Just the price did not include the cost of transportation and regasification.

[woron333444]

LNG is more expensive to the consumer than the pipe.

[Lopatov]

Of course. But at the same time, the “supplier through the pipe” requires long-term contracts from the consumer. For a clear reason.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Spade

And this is true. Still, a tanker is cheaper than a pipe.

Nonsense. It is clear that the pipe must be filled, otherwise why build it. And for liquefied gas, have you ever encountered cryogenic plants, especially of such capacities? How much energy does it take? This is still a headache. No one will bother with gas liquefaction if it is possible to lay a pipe. I remember that in many areas, people used gas bottles, so what? It turned out that universal gasification is much more profitable. Once spent on the pipe and meter, and then pay only gas. Rude, but understandable.

[Lopatov]

Quote: Orionvit

No one will bother with gas liquefaction if it is possible to lay a pipe.

8)))
Are you trying to convince me that it’s better to sell crude oil than petroleum products? What is better to sell round timber than lumber? What is better to sell bauxite than aluminum ingots?
Natural "pipe" gas is a raw material. LNG is a product obtained by processing it. Where there is production, there is income. Read Marx.

[svd-xnumx]

Are you trying to convince me that it’s better to sell crude oil than petroleum products? What is better to sell round timber than lumber? What is better to sell bauxite than aluminum ingots?

It depends on why you need gas, because if you don’t need liquefied gas, you will be forced to regasify. No one will buy lumber to heat the stove.

[Lopatov]

Quote: svd-xnumx

Watching why you need gas

Sell.

Quote: svd-xnumx

you will be forced to regasify

What for? This is the buyer's problem. Like transportation.
We are discussing the benefits of Russia as a seller.

[Orionvit]

Quote: Spade

LNG is a product obtained by processing it.

And what about Marx? LNG is not a product, it is the same gas (raw materials), only in a different state of aggregation and more expensive. But for example, plastic made from the same gas, or the energy received from it, is a product.

What is better to sell round timber than lumber?

Everything in your head is messed up. And round timber and lumber, it's all raw materials. But furniture from the same tree, this is a product. Continue to continue?

[ProkletyiPirat]

LNG is used there where you can’t physically hold out the pipe, it’s just that the EU does perversions, although they can also be understood, diversification of supplies for every fireman is important to them, otherwise Ukraine will invent something again.

[Observer2014]

ProkletyiPirat

otherwise Ukraine will invent something again.

What does Ukraine have to do with it now? She has been enjoying the transit year for the last year. You can forget about the transit country. It’s true if our rescue is pure. And in another attempt to measure, they will not make another curtsy in the direction of Kiev.

[Hierarch]

Why is this happening? Was there a slate?

[Observer2014]

Hierarch

Why is this happening? Was there a slate?

Slate hasn’t gone anywhere. The land is where mining is done in this way.

[aszzz888]

Ierarh Today, 10:10 AM
Why is this happening? Was there a slate?

... if in Hollywood - then yes, if in life - then Merikatosovsky fake ...

[You Vlad]

Quote: aszzz888

.. if in Hollywood - then yes, if in life - then Merikatosovsky fake ...

But what about the video of American housewives where they have a tap, so to speak, gas comes along with water? These are the consequences of production by hydraulic fracturing.

[avt]

Quote: Ierarh

Was there a slate?

The shale is good at an oil price above $ 80, and all that is lower is also necessary for the buyer to pay extra. But it’s cool - we shouted that they would flood with HIS liquid gas not only that Europe-the whole World and would become a real “gas station country”

[Orionvit]

Quote: Ierarh

Was there a slate?

It was a slate, only left sideways. But how many shouts were about the shale "energy revolution", and so, they just dirtied the earth that there were no profits.

[svd-xnumx]

They have trouble with the stores, they can sell it directly from the well. Therefore, they are scamming to Europe to refuse gas from Russia in order to get a large stable market and develop infrastructure for this.

[aszzz888]

The seller was the French energy giant Engie. Fuel was produced at the Yamal LNG project.

... they are also rubbing meritos that they are buying French gas? ... and the poles with ukrokaklami wriggle in front of them ... yes the mericatos scored on all this audience, their cowboy should warm, but whose gas is a secondary issue ...

[rotmistr60]

Second tanker

Interestingly, and at what price are we selling?

because the gas molecules are Russian, "but the gas is no longer Russian."

It seems that he is afraid to affect the anti-Russian feelings of the Americans. Where is the gas produced? And who and how many times resold this is the second question. Ukraine also buys "European" gas. Even in this matter, wagging his tail in front of the United States.

[Lopatov]

Quote: rotmistr60

Interestingly, and at what price are we selling?

As far as I know, we, like everyone else, sell LNG to Europe at exchange prices.

Quote: rotmistr60

It seems that he is afraid to affect the anti-Russian feelings of the Americans.

That's not the point. Gas in fact is already French. They bought it, and it was them.

[onix757]

Quote: Spade

As far as I know, we, like everyone else, sell LNG to Europe at exchange prices.

Gas is not traded on an exchange. The price is specified in the contract.

[Lopatov]

Quote: onix757

Gas is not traded on an exchange. The price is specified in the contract.

This is for normal, "pipe" gas. The pipe requires guarantees of its filling, which means long-term contracts with sanctions for the non-purchase of prescribed volumes.
There are no such problems with LNG. Therefore, exchange trading.

[woron333444]

The price of gas depends on the price of oil. And the price of oil is traded on the stock exchange.

[Lopatov]

Quote: woron333444

Gas price depends on oil price

This is again for pipe gas. Moreover, this scheme appeared initially only in Europe for Norwegian gas. Ours started selling it much later. But even with this, there is an agreement in which the volumes required for procurement are prescribed.

And for LNG, the price is free. With all sorts of futures and other instruments on which brokerage firms earn big money. The Americans lobbied for this scheme, as beneficial for themselves.

[Piramidon]

The gas molecules are Russian, but the gas is no longer Russian.

The scheme is worked out. The coal molecules are Donetsk, but the coal is Pennsylvania.

[san4es]

Provalys will take gas from the French Dunkirk, which was previously delivered from Russia, and will go with him to New England (northeastern USA),

... then it will be sold to Ukraine, at a $ selling price

... nafig will be exhaled.

[Anarchist]

Namesake, welcome!
As they once joked on TV - ““ here’s free gas for you, ”Putin said and farted at the Ukrainian embassy!“ ...

[san4es]

Quote: Anarchist

... - ““ here is free gas for you ”- ...

...Hi! ...

[Mountain shooter]

Well, are they going to supply THIS gas to Europe? Funny "arithmetic". To buy gas in Russia, turn it (on paper) into shale American, and "vparivat" Europeans at an exorbitant price! This is how they inflate their FANTASTIC GDP

[askort154]

You won’t understand these Russians. We sanctioned them, and they sent us a hat on a member, and they say - so that your ears do not freeze.

[d ^ Amir]

However, winter is too cold in the north-east of the country

I understand correctly that Santa Claus has now gone otvetku for sanctions to cut ????

[APASUS]

I still don’t understand where the American shale gas went, the one with which they want to conquer and drive Gazprom all over Europe? In essence, it should be colossal reserves and production for such applications.

[Alexander War]

I agree where their shale gas, if they even buy from us! and they screeched all of Europe with shale gas.

[Wedmak]

because the gas molecules are Russian, "but the gas is no longer Russian."

Very deep knowledge of physics and chemistry ...

[akudr48]

Our gas

Strange, it turns out, is a raw-material dependence: it is not the gas industry that supports the budget, but rather, taxpayers subsidize gas producers. Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/opinions/business/11/12/2017/5
a2e37599a79476b576c3f91

Russia as a state does not receive anything from this project, it even pays extra money for gentlemen to take this gas and not be shy. This is another scheme for pumping state money into the private pockets of the owners of "our gas", ours in which there are only molecules, as Novak surprisingly honestly said.

[Piramidon]

Quote: akudr48

Our gas

Strange, it turns out, is a raw-material dependence: it is not the gas industry that supports the budget, but rather, taxpayers subsidize gas producers. Read more at RBC:
https://www.rbc.ru/opinions/business/11/12/2017/5
a2e37599a79476b576c3f91

Russia as a state does not receive anything from this project, it even pays extra money for gentlemen to take this gas and not be shy. This is another scheme for pumping state money into the private pockets of the owners of "our gas", ours in which there are only molecules, as Novak surprisingly honestly said.

1. References to RBC are the same as references to Echo of Moscow, one of the mouthpieces of the liberal opposition. Still, a reference to the speech of some Gozman or Porubiy would be stuck here.
2. From all of this, you understood only that Yamal LNG was built with the participation of money from the state budget, and on this basis you came to the conclusion - "" We were all robbed! "
3. In Russia, 100-500 enterprises are built on budgetary funds.

[Bourbon]

Quote: Piramidon

Links to RBC - the same as on "Echo of Moscow"

not long ago there was a publication that the baboons destroyed 7 planes in Khmeimim and the link was to the businessman ... everyone shouted together that the businessman was a lying mouthpiece of the liberals ... so ???? ... and after 5 days there was a publication about the sale of liquefied gas in the United States (1 ship) and everyone began to scoff at the star-stripes and write off all the nonsense .... the truth was that this publication also referred to a merchant .... and now what can you say ??? ??

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Burbon

... this post same referred to the merchant .... and now what do you say ?????

Two to you in logic ... that’s what I’ll say
* also - together.

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Two to you in logic ... that’s what I’ll say

bravo ... applause ..means a liberal portal is a businessman lying only when your person is comfortable?

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

What did you want to approve

not really not clear ?? .... then this is no longer for me ....

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Burbon

not really not clear ??

Ooh, yoyo ...
* do - together
* unclear - together too!
It’s good to turn the basin already ... what did you want to saymiserable?
I repeat - simple, Russian words

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

what did you want to say

I’ve already said everything, hasn’t it yet?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Burbon

I’ve already said everything, hasn’t it yet?

I see ...
Broke, break ... bucket (c)

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

I see ...

what do you understand ?? .... in your profile - I do not believe in God, I do not believe in government, I do not believe in anyone. I believe only in my own strength., the point is to continue? ....

[11 black]

Quote: Burbon

not long ago there was a publication that the baboons destroyed 7 planes in Khmeimim and the link was to the businessman ... everyone shouted together that the businessman was a lying mouthpiece of the liberals ... so ???? ... and after 5 days there was a publication about the sale of liquefied gas in the United States (1 ship) and everyone began to scoff at the star-stripes and write off all the nonsense .... the truth was that this publication also referred to a merchant .... and now what can you say ??? ??

I will say that a merchant is a lying mouthpiece of liberal propaganda.
+ 100500 American satellites are aimed at the Hmeimim base. Last time, when the attack on our other base by militants was successful (they burned five helicopters) the next day the Americans provided satellite imagery and notified the whole world about it.
Not a single satellite photograph of the burning or destroyed aircraft at the Khmeimim base has been provided.
Conclusion - a businessman is a lying mouthpiece of Western propaganda, which is sometimes forced to tell the truth in order to mask the lies behind it.

[Bourbon]

Quote: 11 black

+100500 American satellites aimed at Hmeimim base

I'm talking about a businessman, and not about a base ..... just people in one case believe in publishing, and in another they hate it .... where is the logic? Well, by the way .... everyone knows that the hmeimim base is covered by a reb (dome) .... and the United States whines that they don’t see anything ......

[11 black]

Quote: Burbon

I'm talking about a businessman, and not about a base ..... just people in one case believe in publishing, and in another they hate it .... where is the logic? Well, by the way .... everyone knows that the hmeimim base is covered by a reb (dome) .... and the United States whines that they don’t see anything ......

The publisher insolently lied and criticized him for that - that’s the whole logic.
No "EW Dome" can blind all American satellites at once. If this happened, then we must talk about the complete incapacity of all US satellites in front of our electronic warfare
As I said, the Americans instantly photographed our T-4 base after the militants destroyed five helicopters, which proved the constant satellite reconnaissance of our bases. The next day, these photos were from the journalists. Since they saw T-4, they certainly would have seen Khmeimim.

[Orionvit]

Quote: 11 black

The very next day, these photos were with journalists

Photos where?

[11 black]

"Photos" of the attack on T4 for a year now in the public domain.

But Hmeimim from the same American satellites.

So what should I ask about Hmeimim - where are the pictures ?!

[Orionvit]

Quote: 11 black

So what should I ask about Hmeimim - where are the pictures?

So about, where are the pictures of the base in Hmeimim?

[Piramidon]

Quote: Burbon

Now what do you say ?????

I will say that you did not understand the essence of my answer "akudr48". It is not even a matter of whom he refers, but how it interprets and presents.
"People robbed" "They give out gas for free" ... Even RBC does not give out such a thing. True, slyly trying to push all kinds of sofa "oppositionists" to such thoughts. What I was convinced by reading the post akudr48.

[Vard]

A simple calculation of pipe pricing gives no less surprising things ... whoever doesn’t feed from our gas ... A seditious thought ... it is more profitable for us to stop exporting altogether ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Vard

it’s more profitable for us to stop exporting altogether ...

What will we eat? In the truest sense of the word?

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

What will we eat?

don’t you have something to eat? ..... so you pray for buyers from the United States since they send the currency for gas .... only to the French and not to us ....... and they, in turn, pay euro cents per cubic meter .. ..which is cheaper than gas for domestic consumption

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Burbon

... pay euro cents per cubic meter .... which is cheaper than gas for domestic consumption ...

(lazily): a lie ...

[sapporo1959]

Is it funny The economy under the leadership of our tireless president was raised, we were engaged in import substitution, and then suddenly we’ll eat something without gas ...?

[Golovan Jack]

And someone here decided to try his hand at trolling ... in vain, oh, in vain

Quote: sapporo1959

The economy ... was raised, they were engaged in import substitution, and then all of a sudden, why would we eat without gas ...?

Check out the share of oil and gas revenues in the budget of the Russian Federation.
After acquaintance - come in and talk ... since you have such a desire.
The rise of industry and import substitution is not a quick matter, like any creative activity.

[Bourbon]

Quote: Golovan Jack

The rise of industry and import substitution is not a quick matter, like any creative activity

lies...

Quote: Golovan Jack

After acquaintance - come in and talk ... since you have such a desire.

trolling ....

Quote: Golovan Jack

Check out the share of oil and gas revenues in the budget of the Russian Federation

got acquainted and what? ..... empty and solid lies - propaganda

[Tusv]

Quote: akudr48

Russia as a state does not receive anything from this project, it even pays extra money for gentlemen to take this gas and not be shy. This is another scheme for pumping state money into the private pockets of the owners of "our gas", ours in which there are only molecules, as Novak surprisingly honestly said.

What does your RBC understand. Bend your fingers:
- 5% - subsoil tax, 20% - income tax, 2.2% property tax, 1,1% personal property tax.
According to the wage fund - 13% PIT, 30% - Insurance premiums
Indirectly: 18% VAT for funds, Materials, Intangible assets, goods, services purchased is not set off to the budget in the form of a deduction, since it is sold for a hill at the rate of 0, Customs fees. Harboring
So calculate how much the country "doesn’t get a damn" from Yamal

[sapporo1959]

It's right! And I am excitedly rejoicing about the next overturn of Russia in gas deliveries, although liquefied, I don’t see any particular reason, since my Russian pension is clearly untied from these victorious deliveries ...? I would like to think differently, but however this fact is not disputable. Although various students with refutations will come out of course now, the statistics of sciences are accurate!

[AID.S]

Russian gas molecules

Masterpiece.

[Hierarch]

Quote: d ^ Amir

However, winter is too cold in the north-east of the country

I understand correctly that Santa Claus has now gone otvetku for sanctions to cut ????

And Grandfather is already suspected of loyalty to the Russians. The “Dog of the Knights” froze, Bonaparte froze, Hitler froze ...
It is not for nothing that the Ruin persecutes him, they feel that they will meet ...

[taiga2018]

money, as they say, doesn’t smell, but gas smells, but when it’s cold, even the smell of heat comes from Russian gas, but the aroma of heat ...

[Piramidon]

Quote: taiga2018

money, as they say, doesn’t smell, but gas smells, but when it’s cold, even the smell of heat comes from Russian gas, but the aroma of heat ...

Initially, gas, by the way, does not smell. The smell is given to him specially, adding the so-called odorants to make leak detection easier.

[Alexander War]

some video to tape

[groks]

Is it in response to new sanctions that our oligarchs sent them? Of all the news, I liked only the name of the vessel.

[Sansculotte]

To begin with, this is not Russian gas at all. He was Russian - and even listed by law in state ownership - while he was in the bowels of the Yamal Peninsula. Once on the surface, he immediately became the property of the international consortium that mined it as part of the NOVATEK company (partially owned by foreigners, not just Timchenko and Michelson), the French company Total and two Chinese partners.
At the same time, Russia did not get anything at all for its gas. The Russian leadership virtually donated this gas to the consortium named above (not even the state-owned companies of the Russian Federation), renouncing in its favor a tax on extraction of minerals, an export tax on gas, a profit tax, an import duty on imported equipment ... and generally all taxes, excises and duties. Once again, for those who are dull, this is a gift to entrepreneurs from the president, who personally ordered the Yamal LNG project to be provided with such unprecedented preferential terms.

Having delivered his gas to a transshipment point in northwestern Europe, the owner, that is, the aforementioned consortium, and not Russia, sold the goods to the trader company. And the new owner, in turn, has the right to dispose of his legally acquired property as he pleases. Liquefied gas went by sea to the place where at the moment they would give a good price for nago. They planned to deliver it to the USA, but then they found out that somewhere else the price would be higher.

I repeat: from the moment it reached the surface of the earth, this gas ceased to be Russian. The goods may change owners several times, and “patriotically” monitor commercial transactions to which the Russian state and the population of Russia no longer have any relation, only stupid propagandists are allowed.

Yamal LNG will be exempted from MET for gas in the first 12 years of production, provided that its total volume for this period does not exceed 250 billion cubic meters. m. Under the same conditions, exemption from property tax and income tax benefits, which will be not 18%, but 13,5%. Until the end of the construction of the plant, the shareholders are exempted from VAT when purchasing equipment that has no analogues in Russia, and upon its completion they will be able to use the zero export duty for LNG. Given that all related infrastructure is built and maintained by the state, the state will receive from the project in area 0.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Sankyulot

The Russian leadership virtually gave this gas for free ... by refusing ... generally from all taxes, excises and duties

Lies

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Golovan Jack

Quote: Sankyulot

The Russian leadership virtually gave this gas for free ... by refusing ... generally from all taxes, excises and duties

Lies

Breshet, even without batting an eye .. ELECTION however!

[Tusv]

Quote: MIKHAN

Breshet, even without batting an eye .. ELECTION however!

It seems to me that it’s not ELECTION that is to blame, but recruited journalists by ad. Of course, the state gave privileges for a grandiose project. This is normal. Only some journalists put everything on its feet without understanding the nefig. Let’s say the income tax has been reduced, so retained earnings increase, dividends are accrued from it, personal income tax is paid from them. From bourgeoisie 15%, from Michelson 13%. As if for the state from a rearrangement of terms, the amount of Taxes does not change. No matter how the state removes mineral extraction tax from the deposit 5%, the bases for calculating taxes are increasing. etc.
Well in general. If there was no Yamal LNG, the state would not have received a fig. And so, property tax as a gift as a gift to the State. Amounts are very decent and will only increase

[sapporo1959]

So why lies? Let's look at our salaries and pensions and then it will become not much more clear who from this gas of ours and raped is not sickly ..

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: sapporo1959

Let’s look at our salaries and pensions, and then it’s not much more clear who from this gas of ours was not sickly

Mdja ...
- firstly, I do not want to “look” at your salary (and pension). My salary suits me (almost).
- secondly, it was about the tax benefits of Yamal-LNG, and not at all about the size of salary-pensions
- who raped whom there - it’s not from this opera at all ...

Quote: sapporo1959

So why lies?

A-priory. This -

Quote: Sankyulot

refusing in his favor from mineral extraction tax, gas export duty, income tax, import duty on imported equipment ... and generally from all taxes, excises and duties

- the essence of a lie, (censorship) and provocation

[sapporo1959]

Well, is provocation clear? Well, what can you tell us about the numbers regarding pensions and salaries during such rapid gas and oil exploitation of mineral resources belonging to some kind of people ...?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: sapporo1959

Well, what about the numbers you can tell us about pensions and salaries

To you personally?
Never mind

[sapporo1959]

So the fact of the matter is that there’s nothing to tell you. Well, shouting cheers on every occasion, in principle, is not a big mind.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: sapporo1959

So the fact of the matter is that there’s nothing to tell you

Three mistakes in one sentence.
I do not see a “case” on which it would be worth talking.
I repeat - what your salary is, I am deeply indifferent. It's your problems. Not mine.
That's all, actually

[sapporo1959]

So why are you so straight pessimistic like everything? Are you going to the Duma as a drummer, or have you already decided to go to Grudilin as a bugler? I still thought that you would finally explain to me how gas supplies, and even liquefied ones, affect my pension?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: sapporo1959

... how are gas supplies, and even liquefied ones, affecting my pension?

More gas - fewer holes

Quote: sapporo1959

I still thought that you would explain to me

I’ll give up everything right now, and I’ll start ... I get to work in 7 hours, and I’m still in no one eye
Self-educate, you have a lot of time, the Internet is available ... I would have such conditions

[sapporo1959]

So why do I need the Internet if I received a pension and I saw all the successes right away and you see it. It’s easier for you to work tomorrow, but then you worked like Karl’s dad and get it!

[voyaka uh]

It was so hard to drill there and produce this gas and turn it into liquid, that no one wanted to take it. Putin persuaded all private traders. Therefore, when the consortium was created, it was happiness. Otherwise, the failure of the project. The state does not think about profit there, if only the entire chain of production and sales does not stop at all.
This example is for those who rely too much on the Arctic shelf. There is a lot of oil and gas in the bowels, but production is unprofitable. Costs cannot be recouped for decades.

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

It was so hard to drill there and produce this gas and turn it into liquid, that no one wanted to take it. Putin persuaded all private traders.

For so long, cheat Mr. Michelson agreed right away. Not. He is not a friend of Putin, he is a shirt guy for Tax

[Tusv]

Quote: voyaka uh

This example is for those who rely too much on the Arctic shelf. There is a lot of oil and gas in the bowels, but production is unprofitable.

Vasheto Novatek has been producing permafrost for at least 15 years. They started with a two-story mansion on Olsufensky, a year later on the second Brest 3 floors in Parus, then half of NeftOil between Cherkizovskaya and Kaluga. Not profitable? Very disadvantageous. This is how much property taxes to pay

[Vitaly Anisimov]

We give them gas, they give us Alaska .. !!! Do not wash it so much .. (a joke of course, but everything may be in the future ..)))

EVERYTHING is dancing and liberalists too .. hehe

[gladcu2]

I have a gap of concepts.

The crisis in Ukraine, according to analysts from the United States, was created in order to discredit Russia as a trading partner for Europe. The purpose of such incriminating evidence is to switch the trade partnership of Europe to the US According to rough estimates, this is about 500 billion per annum. In particular, it is planned to sell shale LNG for Europe, replacing Russia on the market.

And this is what we have at the moment.

There, by chance, a reversal to Europe does not occur? What about this Bloombeg is silent?

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: gladcu2

And this is what we have at the moment.

Russian frost has always been on the side of Russia ..!
And the Russians love the cold, invigorates greatly (then a glass with a pickle ..)))

Well, for Russia and our submarine fleet!

[rocket757]

Russia carried out on a striped gas ATAKU !!! Save who can !!! GASES !!!

[Mentat]

Quote: 264

No, of course, where are we ... You made me a day, thank you most humbly, gentleman.

You made my day is an American expression. Are you definitely from Siberia? Even so says young quite snotty years, having learned this from the Internet.
If you are all who stand up for everything good versus everything bad that you are trying to imagine, do not distort the Russian language, please.

[Nikolai Passerby]

Bought cheaper, sold more expensive ... This is a business, nothing personal. Russia has recently bought potatoes in Israel. True, it is doubtful that this potato in Israel grew, and not in Russia or Belarus, but it was supplied by its Israeli company ... So the potato is Israeli.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Boo-ha-ha, I'm under the table)))))))))))))))))

[SEER]

Quote: Burbon

... then you pray for buyers from the United States since they send the currency for gas .... only to the French and not to us ....... and those in turn pay euro cents per cubic meter .... which is cheaper than gas for domestic consumption

what about the numbers? the third time, as in a barrel organ a melody, but there is still no confirmation ...

[Seraphimamur]

But how did the Americans promise to warm Europe with their gas if they abandon Russian gas? Here liars they do not have enough gas for themselves.

[Sergey Cojocari]

They got gas, and sold it for US papers, for which, due to sanctions, you can only buy beads. What are you happy about?

[Archivist Vasya]

because the gas molecules are Russian, “but the gas is no longer Russian

And then, he is generally French, they sold! Hmm, insanity ...
And a couple of questions on the photo for the article:
1) Where does so much water come from the ship? What is flowing there?
2) Should the bulb be visible even when the ship is empty? (ready to ram)))