Turkey is ready to fight in Iraq

Ankara does not intend to limit itself to operations in Syrian Afrin, and in case of threats to its security, it will fight with them in Syrian Manbij, east of the Euphrates, as well as in Iraqi regions Sinjar and Kandil, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Chavusoglu said.

On the eve of the US State Department spokesman Heather Nauert said that Turkey’s actions in Afrin "risk undermining the common tasks of the United States and Turkey in Syria" and called on Ankara to de-escalate.

We will be in Syria until we are finished with terrorism, until it is exhausted, and then we will transfer these territories to their real owners. Calls to limit operation to Afrin for us do not have power. Wherever the terrorist threat comes from - whether it be Sinjar, Kandil, Manbij, the east of the Euphrates - we will fight and destroy it

- said Cavusoglu, speaking in Antalya. Broadcast led channel NTV.

The Turkish Armed Forces 20 of January announced the launch of Operation Olive Branch against the Kurdish forces in Syrian Afrin. Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yıldırım announced last Sunday about the start of the ground operation in Afrin. Along with Turkey, there are militants "Syrian Free Army", reports RIA News

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[vlad66]

Eh, the Sultan came to a head in earnest,

[The black]

Quote: vlad66

Eh, the Sultan came to a head in earnest,

The Sultan famously began, but will end badly

[cniza]

Quote: vlad66

Eh, the Sultan came to a head in earnest,

Greetings Vlad! , the appetite comes with eating, on this he will be caught.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Black

The Sultan famously began, but will end badly

A large crocodile walked along the street. We will leave, he says. Thinks that will remain. Well, think. They are plucking the Ottoman Fuhrer there, as if in a loop, he will dump himself. And the overgrown Kurds will calm down after Turkish pigeons with an "olive branch." So we don’t get excited, and even more so Assad, until we get excited.

[siberalt]

If Trump in Davos said that he defeated ISIS in Iraq by 100%, then who was Erdogan going to fight with there?

[Safevi]

Many users are completely off topic about the Kurds. To begin with, the Kurds are far from monolithic. They differ among themselves very much; there is no common religion, or even a common language. The vast majority of Turkish Kurds do not even think of opposing the central government. They live well in Turkey, and some feel free. Many Kurds are successful businessmen, military, engineers, artists .... Who, in a normal mind, agrees to abandon warm places and run through the mountains like a hare in the name of the mythical "Kurdistan"? They may well realize themselves within the framework of Turkey, a strong country with a dynamically developing economy.

[voyaka uh]

The problem is that Turkey near Erdogan deviated from the path of development of the genius Kemal Ataturk, which made it a dynamic country with a developed economy. Turkey began to slide towards Islamism - a political aggressive interpretation of Islam. Which moves her away from developed countries.
And the fight against the PKK terrorists turns into a kind of attempt to "restore" the Ottoman Empire.

[protoss]

actually, under Erdogan, Turkey became

vibrant advanced economies

See statistics.
Kemalism did its job - saved the nation at the most difficult time, since then the number of Turks has increased 10 times, so there is no need to sit further on an isolationist ideology, it's time to return to imperial roots, after all, the heirs of the Ottoman and Seljuk sultanates. I think that it is in this vein that Erdogan reflects, to put it mildly short-sighted to represent him as a stubborn Islamist.
the fight against the rpc is only the elimination of internal problems; it is not directly related to the restoration of oi.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Black

The Sultan famously began, but will end badly

Normally, Erdogan will finish everything. He feels the support of Russia and therefore acts without regard to the United States. And the United States is now faced with a choice: which side should it take. If you go to the right, you lose a member of NATO, you go to the left, you will be an enemy of Turkey. They created a fork for themselves. Now let's see how the United States gets out of this situation.

[alexmach]

The US is generally in shock. It turns out that there are countries in the world that are able to pursue an independent policy, and not just dance to their tune. And then who, they are still to the fact that Russia kicks accustomed to eat and eat, and here in general some third world country and younger ally have thought of showing sovereignty.

[Thorn]

I don’t want to offend you, but rather Estonia’s third world country than Turkey ... in Turkey there are not bad doctors, normal engineers, excellent builders ... than Estogia or even the whole Baltic can boast ??? sprats?)))))

[alexmach]

Turkey is not bad doctors, normal engineers, excellent builders

Yes ... here, of course, did not see this :)

PS: I won’t say anything about doctors, but my wife and I had occasion to intersect with Turkish engineers at work. There is nothing to be proud of.

[Thorn]

dear, what should you be proud of? Turkey as a state has taken place a long time ago ... and it can defend its national interests ... does not live on a subsidy from Europe, like your country ...

have not seen the engineers? construction (engineers), military industrial complex (engineers) ... what can your country boast of in comparison with Turkey ?? give at least one example, calling Turkey a third world country .. you don’t have a military industrial complex, .. you don’t have industry ... you have 3 armored personnel carriers and 5 tanks for the entire Baltic States (3 countries) ... no scientific or other little achievements .. .o Nigeria in the news and you will hear more often))) and if you only hear about how to troll Russia and Russians ... 3 countries of the world is Europe .. where recently, compared to the east, sewers appeared and same-sex marriages are allowed .. .and who doesn’t want the Baltics to judge Turkey, which historically and modernly represents something ... produces and develops unlike some!

[alexmach]

dear and what to be proud of you?

How do you manage in one sentence to be rude and call me "respected"? Schizophrenia? I will answer your boorish attacks, I emphasize that I will answer without respect.

What should I be proud of personally? I assure you, I have something to be proud of.
- I am proud, among other things, of my belonging to the Great Russian Norod and to the Great Russian culture. I am proud no matter what your folly prompts you when you look at the flags displayed next to my posts.
- I am proud of the country in which I had the honor to be born and its great achievements. I am proud despite the fact that this country has long been gone.
- I also have some personal achievements, which I am still proud of. Mostly in terms of education and work.

I have something to be proud of and not an anonymous forum boom to question it.

Now I’ll enlighten you a little about Estonia.

have not seen the engineers? construction (engineers)

And do you seriously think that there are no builders in Estonia?
Or doctors?

VPK (engineers)

And what is your Turkish military-industrial complex famous for? one fact of its presence?

What can your country boast in comparison with Turkey ?? give at least one example, calling Turkey

Well, if you please. Let's start with the engineers:
- Have you ever heard of Skype? Here are some who call it an Estonian company, which is actually not entirely correct, but the lion's share of the development of Skype during the first 10 years of its life was done in Estonia, including Estonian engineers.
- Transferwice?
- There is such an Estonian company Taxify - last year they were (and still remain) the fastest growing business in Europe.
- Under the window, from time to time, a robot-postman from starship technologies drives and tests me. Google for interest what it is.

you have 3 armored personnel carriers and 5 tanks for the whole baltic region (3 countries)

And what is the country's development is estimated by the number of tanks and armored personnel carriers? Even if this is an old NATO second-hand?

no scientific or other minor achievements

There is such a city of Tartu, it has a university. In addition to being one of the oldest in the region, he also (further quotes from the site)

INCLUDES IN 3% OF THE STRONGEST UNIVERSITIES
WORLD Along with Moscow State University and St. Petersburg State University (THE RANKING)

INCLUDED IN 1% MOST QUOTED
SCIENTIFIC INSTITUTIONS OF THE WORLD (ESI RANKING)

But no, of course there is no science here. Not like in Turkey.

Note this is all in a country where the population is only 1 \ 55 of the population of your Turkey.

I have the honor, unlike the desire to continue any communication with you.

[Thorn]

Well, why are you offended ?? read your posts above ... I just answered you in your manner .... but in the end we learned that Estonia is really against the backdrop of Turkey, country 3 of the world)) have a nice evening ...

Ps. By the way, I had to google your flag ... there were doubts, maybe Lithuanian ... or Latvian ..

[alexmach]

but in the end we learned that Estonia is really against the background of Turkey, the country of the 3rd world))

I wonder what you made such a conclusion? Have you tried to read at least a post?

read your posts above ... I just answered you in your manner ....

You answered in an openly boorish manner. Reread the post you are so excited for again. From point of view Americans Turkey is truly a third world country. You are insane if you doubt it.

[Thorn]

I repeat to you, I answered you in your manner ... you are not able to conduct a constructive dialogue, while blaming me yourself

[Safevi]

Contrary to the majority opinion on the site, Turkey will finish everything in the best possible way. Erdogan has the main thing - the support of the vast majority of the population, which is crucial for solving external and internal problems. According to official figures, from the beginning of the operation, Turkey lost 3 soldiers. Troops invaded 8 km. Slow movement is explained by strong mining of the terrain. The Turks do not have to rush. All roads to Afrin under the blows of Turkish aviation and feeding the Kurds is very difficult. With intense fighting, the Kurds will quickly exhaust all their reserves, and new ones are unlikely to be expected. NATO yesterday officially recognized Turkey’s right to self-defense, which was to be expected.

[Kasym]

Hard to tell. After all, Erdogan is not fighting on his territory - the support of his population does not play a role. And ammunition can be thrown by the same staff if they feel that Erdogan has become too independent. Assad also does not like the fact that the Turks are rolling the Syrian Kurds - who will restore the destroyed then !? So it doesn’t depend on a single Erdogan how his operation will turn out. The Arabian monarchs can also win the fight for the support of Erdogan Qatar - after all, they (Qatar) wanted to make him extreme.
And then, this war against the Kurds can bring them together - I think Erdogan does not need such a deal.

[alexmach]

Yes, nothing will happen to them, they will do what they want and no one will be able to prevent them in that region. The maximum will be reprimanded once again. The only one who could hypothetically confront them in that region is Iran. But he doesn’t need it at all.

[Kasym]

I would not be so categorical. The question is not what the Turks can do, but whether they will give it. There is no doubt that the Turkish armed forces are the strongest in the region and can overpower the Kurds, even the united ones. They will occupy the territory, but what will they achieve and what's next? The results can be disastrous. It is unlikely that all opponents will be destroyed, and the remaining and fragmented Kurds can unite ... The world resonance may also not be in favor of the Turks. They will certainly not be stroking the Kurds from the PKK, etc. .. But this is what Western politicians need ... And what will be the loss of the Turks in these battles? All the same, no one will let them calmly hold these territories - no one needs the new Ottoman Empire, but Erdogan may suffer against this success ..

[alexmach]

The question is not what the Turks can do, but whether they will give it.

Once again, who can possibly not give them anything there on the territory of Syria or Iraq?

There is no doubt that the Turkish armed forces are the strongest in the region and can overpower the Kurds, even the united ones.

At the same time, not particularly distracted from ordinary peaceful life. Truly global confrontation is moving from thousands of kilometers of fronts of the 20th century to a series of "limited" conflicts of "low intensity".

They will occupy the territory, but what will they achieve and what's next?

Well, for example, they will create some kind of puppet local authority there. Whose task will be to keep the Kurds in check, and for the most part they will go home.

and the remaining and fragmented Kurds can unite ..

So after all, they are right now with their ability to unite and fight.

All the same, no one will let them calmly hold these territories - nobody needs a new Ottoman Empire,

And what will they do then? They will express their deep concern - as if for a long time. Sanctions will be imposed - as if it were not the first time, and secondly, so Turkey would fall directly into global trends. Specifically, in the trend of separation of economies and the collapse of a single world economy, once again divided into parts.

Erdogan may suffer amid this success ..

But such comments sincerely surprise me. I began to wonder at them even when in 2014 I began to hear from Svidomo Ukrainians that Putin suffered that he had megalomania and that he was reviving the Soviet Union and in general that he was mentally ill.

Do you seriously think that a person of his position can just like that take and carry? Do you think that if he was worn heavily, he would be where he is now? No, of course he is an emotional person, noticeably more emotional than Putin, and changeable. That's just the fact that he would "carry" I personally would not expect in any case.

[Kasym]

Erdogan with his pan-Turkism in Central Asia even got the Uzbeks. That's what it is about - do you know much about this idea? Create a Union of Türks with your person at the head? Karimov gave him a specific stop, and NAS smiled. I agree that after a series of tensions with the Russian Federation and the coup, he has neither fuse. But the fact that he is too emotional.
And who gave him the right to host in Syria and Iraq? Can you guarantee that Erdogan will not arrange genocide for the Kurds? In this case, he will make trouble - do you agree ?! It doesn’t matter what army he has - everyone will be against him.
Puppet power - as you see it - Assad, Iran, Russia, this is definitely not necessary in Syria !? The Kurds are already asking Assad to pacify the Turks. He will give Erdogan some more time to show his Kurds with whom they should live, and then how can he be silent - will he restore the damage ?! Same thing in Iraq.
Well, imagine yours. He planted puppets, but made enemies in the south. Iraq and Syria will put pressure on the United States and the Russian Federation, respectively, incl. both to Iran to remove Erdogan. He will master such pressure and whether he needs it - the Kurds will "amaze" him with terrorist attacks.
In my opinion, you are mistaken - the Kurds are too fragmented. The independence of Iraqi Kurdistan in Syria, Turkey and Iran, the Kurds did not particularly support. Barzani's game miscalculated well. After all, he traded oil with Erdogan. They closed the shop and he demanded independence to please the locals. After all, they have long been cut off by bearded men from Iraq - which did not previously require independence !?
I just explain why I would not be so categorical in Erdogan's capabilities. And I like that he goes against the coalition of the West, which wanted to create 30 thousand groups. on the border of Turkey and Syria. The Pentagon clearly did not like this.

[alexmach]

Erdogan with his pan-Turkism in Central Asia even got the Uzbeks. That's what it is about - do you know much about this idea?

I heard what it is.

Create a Union of Türks with your person at the head?

And as for the fact that I’m headed, I’m not very sure. Firstly, he is no longer young, and secondly, this is not his personal idea either. These are the aspirations of a significant part of their elites and people.

Karimov gave him a specific stop, and NAS smiled.

How to tell you. Maybe I got it, but there is one thing. Only large and strong regional interethnic associations have a path to the future. Small countries alone in our world will not see the future - do not survive them in global competition, and do not escape the fate of new colonies. I’m writing to you from Estonia if that :). Small countries (including Russia) need to unite with someone. The Soviet unification project crashed at the end of the last century. For Russia, with the CIS and later with the Eurasian Union, so far it is not very unifying. It is not possible to unite with China, neither Uzbekistan nor Kazakhstan, and indeed Russia itself too. He simply swallows and does not choke, colonizes and assimilates. So the question arises: with whom and on the basis of what can one unite? The question is not empty. I do not claim that "Panturkism" is the best answer to it, but still one of the answers.

And who gave him the right to host in Syria and Iraq?

The right of the strong

Can you guarantee that Erdogan will not arrange genocide for the Kurds?

Am I personally? :) Most likely not, but I want to hope that now the times are not the same. If he had arranged genocide, then only with the hands of some IG.

Puppet power - as you see it - Assad, Iran, Russia, this is definitely not necessary in Syria !?

He will not ask Assad for sure - he is too weak a player in this game. Others do not like it, but do they decide on retaliatory steps and which ones?

He will master such pressure and whether he needs it

This is what we will see soon. Analysts have long said that Russia will not overpower the war in Syria, and that Assad still certainly will not sit in Damascus ... It seems to have changed their minds already. But yes, of course, it carries certain risks for Turkey and Erdogan, but it seems to me that in the worst case they will simply remain “at their own”.

In my opinion, you are mistaken - the Kurds are too fragmented.

Yes, in fact, the Kurds as a single force, as I understand it, are not and never have been.

And I like that he goes against the coalition of the West, which wanted to create 30 thousand groups. on the border of Turkey and Syria. The Pentagon clearly did not like this.

This is really good.

[Kasym]

In fact, the integration of the Turkic countries was proposed by the National Academy of Sciences - Erdogan saddled this idea so that those Uzbeks “jumped away”. . and stopped responding.
There is another force against the Turkish force. Imagine that Assad will begin to bring down planes and the Russian Federation will support it. Yes, the Turks give up instantly in the air. After the ATGMs the Kurds will begin to ship - I believe that the Syrians have become the most experienced army in the region and this cannot be ignored.
Once the Turks entered Syria, they are responsible for the occupied territories and if there is a mountain of corpses, then Erdogan will not get out. I don’t think that he will take prisoner PKK members, etc. Kurdish organizations. Understanding this, the Kurds can fight to the last. And look at the loss of the Turks.

[Thorn]

so Erdogan is supported not only by the population of Turkey ... but also the Kurds of the same Syria (the Kurds who adhere to Sunni Islam, and most of them ...) ... do not forget how many Kurds live in Turkey ... and most of them are far from Rpk ... and supports the mood of Turkey ... the same Hakan Fidan (head of national intelligence MIT) is a Kurd ... Kurds in Turkey are like Ukrainians in Russia ... most citizens of Russia with Ukrainian roots and surnames hold the position of Russia, and not Ukraine.

[garnik]

So you have a Kurdish president, so what. It is not correct to compare the relationship between Slavic peoples and peoples of different ethnic groups.

[Thorn]

Most of the Kurdish people living on the territory of Turkey and on the territory of Bv support the policy of Turkey ... the point is that not all Kurds are terrorists and enemies of Turkey ... like not all Ukrainians are enemies of Russia ... in Bv more often, so the religious component connects more than ethnic ... the example of Syria, the Arabs began to fight with the Arabs ... the Persians supported one of the parties ... the example of Iraq, the Arbs crushed each other until the Kurds gained autonomy ... the example of Yemen, the Arabs are fighting with the Arabs ... then the same with the Kurds

[mihey]

Our agent So east of the Euphrates, the Kurds will run under the wing to Assad, so as not to fall under the distribution.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: mihey

Our agent So east of the Euphrates, the Kurds will run under the wing to Assad, so as not to fall under the distribution.

He is ! The great teacher of the "mind-wise" of the Kurds and others trying "and this and that" ..
Let rushing to Iraq, the main thing is not to overtake .. And so, in principle, everything goes according to plan!

Maybe we’ll even carry out joint exercises on BV in the future (Russia, Turkey, Syria, Iran ..))))
And that is quite possible ..

[Thorn]

respected when Turkey conducted special operations in Iraq ... you did not even know where it is located geographically)) the operation in Iraq was carried out long before the conflict in Syria

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Trn

respected when Turkey conducted special operations in Iraq ... you did not even know where it is located geographically)) the operation in Iraq was carried out long before the conflict in Syria

Turkey carried them under US control (before they tried to overthrow Erdogan by military means), and this is a huge difference, respected .. Now another format will already begin! Turkey bombed an airfield where the United States supplied the Kurds with aviation and not only .. Syria, of course, is also outraged by Russia (for order and compliance with international law ..))) The United States then began an urgent evacuation of its special forces from the zone and not only from the Kurds .. he he
Now you can calmly wet the American "litter" .. in Syria, let the devils blink .. This is the situation, bye!

[Thorn]

I doubt that the Yankees are under control, because the Kurds of Iraq have always supported the Yankees ... Saddam pushed them ... the Yankees appeared, they are glad ...
I agree with you about Amer’s mongrels ... in the near future, Russia and Turkey will remain allies, because their interests will coincide for a rather long time ... like Iran ... despite the contradictions between Turkey and Iran, there are common interests, these are reluctances see the Kurdish state on part of its territory and confrontation with the west
after Trump's visit to Saudi Arabia, the Arab countries (SA, Egypt, the UAE, etc.) suddenly sharply sanctioned a small Qatar (also Arab), which has rather close ties with Turkey ... the confrontation with the west pushes Turkey, Iran and Russia into an embrace friend, no matter how anyone likes it

[oleg-gr]

The Sultan suffered. Wants to practice at all Kurds? So he and the Persians on a crooked mare will want to look at the light.

[Chertt]

Quote: vlad66

Eh, the Sultan got in earnest

It's okay, Just cockroaches in Erdogan’s head, temporarily seized power. He’s going to eat a crayon, “Mashenka”

[Maz]

So he is tempted to tell, they say Turkey is above all, death to the horns and glory to the Sultan!

[The black]

Turkey is ready to fight in Iraq

Ready, so go ahead .... start faster - faster belly button untie ... it's time for Perdagan to finish watching the series "The Magnificent Century"

[ul_vitalii]

Somewhere, he will scoop up the Lyuli, it seems he got carried away, there are a lot of spectators, and the artist is alone.

[RussianUzbek]

I wonder if they’ll digest it.

[newcomer]

and then the sultan suffered. although, let him utilize the Turkoman and all sorts of opposition, and reduce his army. perhaps the Sultan will break with the Yankees.

[taiga2018]

that’s good in Iraq, like the Americans there consider themselves the only owners, so let them deal with their NATO ally ...

[Alex-a832]

After the Kurds kicked out in Iraq, the Turks will be silently given the opportunity to "frolic." It is very interesting, will the US fit between Turks and Kurds? If not, we will soon hear from the SDF about the striped betrayal.

[zivXP]

Well, ready, so what? They are just not ready to go for the Euphrates.

[Herculesic]

In the states there is a Kurdish diaspora - will it also break with technology? Or only with the troops, and will he rent equipment and ammunition from the US Army?

[Herculesic]

“You’ll take a wide step, you’ll tear your pants” - is this unfamiliar aphorism to the Sultan?

[Fitratovich]

Is the Golden Horde written on the tank?

[Safevi]

The inscription on the tank is "Golden Army". Probably the name of the army group.

[tosha.chuhontzev]

They think right. when NATO will hit England. Business!

[Strashila]

They were given a chance and they use it to solve their problems with the Kurds ... they will miss, it will not seem enough.

[APASUS]

Erdogan bet too big, will he pull?
The problem of the Kurds is that they are very fragmented, it would not be realistic even to Turkey to fight with the united group of Kurds. But the Kurds rely on American promises, here the most interesting scenario begins, how will the Americans behave?

[popandopulo]

Personally, this replica of RIA Novosti is not enough for me; I would like to hear about this the press attache of the services of comrades S.V. Lavrov and S.E. Naryshkin.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: popandopulo

S.E. Naryshkina.

He will sing to you about a city that doesn’t exist .. Or about the weather.

[Panikovsky]

Quote: Mordvin 3

He will sing to you about a city that doesn’t exist .. Or about the weather.

Uncle, your songs don’t interest me.

[Mordvin 3]

These are not my songs, nephew. Their Naryshkin sings.

[Vadmir]

Well done Turks, so their American henchmen.

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Fuck my friend, unite the Kurds!

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Quote: popandopulo

Personally, this replica of RIA Novosti is not enough for me; I would like to hear about this the press attache of the services of comrades S.V. Lavrov and S.E. Naryshkin.

Haha Lavrov laurels, and Naryshkin - overtakes!

[RUSS]

Well done Erdogan and x ... he put on all sorts of UN and other organizations and most importantly on the Americans.

[garnik]

Is it weak to cross the border with the Rakki Kurds? That's when they do it, then we can say that there are serious disagreements between the Turks and Amers. In the meantime, everything is according to the script.

[Thorn]

don’t worry, you’ll have to go over the Armenian one too ... hiding behind the Russian flag in every post you drown for the Armenians ... and honor purely Armenian interests ... (because you are an Armenian ... and as for the Turks, you are allergic) ... you are not interested in the interests of the Russians, although you are sitting under the Russian flag ... you have not gone far from the RPK ... Armenia is already tilting towards the west ... being in the Collective Security Treaty Organization and the EAEU ... sign an agreement with the EU))
almost every your post that Russia betrayed the Kurds! I haven’t fulfilled my obligations! What ??? your Armenian? enmity with Turkey?) For your Armenian interests should the Russians die again ??? should again ignore the interests of their state ??? for the sake of Armenia?

[garnik]

don’t worry, you’ll have to go over the Armenian one too ... hiding behind the Russian flag in every post you drown for the Armenians ... and honor purely Armenian interests ... (because you are an Armenian ... and as for the Turks, you are allergic) ... you are not interested in the interests of the Russians, although you are sitting under the Russian flag ... you have not gone far from the RPK ... Armenia is already tilting towards the west ... being in the Collective Security Treaty Organization and the EAEU ... sign an agreement with the EU))

But I’m worried. Bolshevik Russia, along with the Turks, already participated in the war against Armenia. And I would not want a repeat. But while the policy of Russia, or rather its semblance, harms the existence of the state.
For your information, Russia and Armenia have the same geopolitical goals. Let me give an example, the Turks entered the territory of Shirvan and Arann under the pretext of protecting their blood brothers, and the so-called Azerbaijan on the lands of Lezghins, Avars, Tats, Udins, Talyshs and Armenians. Where is the autonomy of these listed peoples? The same will be in the north of Syria. And what heels in your opinion, then probably the policy of Russia is pushing the Armenians to other friendly countries as well. As you strive for Turkey. The agreement concluded with the EU is by no means against Russia. Moreover, it is truncated.

almost every your post that Russia betrayed the Kurds! I haven’t fulfilled my obligations! What ??? your Armenian? enmity with Turkey?) For your Armenian interests should the Russians die again ??? should again ignore the interests of their state ??? for the sake of Armenia?

I am Armenian and not encrypted like yours. I treat Turks and Kurds the same way, two peoples stand each other. I do not understand the actions of the leaders of a great country who belittle themselves to the level of Turkey.
Only Armenians fought for Armenian interests, while others used it. I would like to know the interests of Russia, is it Turan? It’s coming to this, just don’t say that this is nonsense. Your Fuad has split into a talk show, and the leader of Kazakhstan will not wait for the unification of the Turkic peoples, which is the death of Russia. And so the war in Afrin, and preferably in the Rakki Kurdistan with the Turks, is only for the benefit of civilization.

[Thorn]

I’m not going to arrange a historical debate with you, knowing in advance that you can’t prove that white is white ... and black is black)) dolma is an Armenian dish ... Sarah Gyalin is an Armenian melody ... and great Armenia extends all the way to the Black Sea)) ) and Armavir Armenian)))
but in fact, resources are available to anyone like and when the Armenians were resettled in the Caucasus ... as evidenced by the works of Russian scientists and political figures ... and not only Russians !!! the fact that many of you are more likely to be betrayed by any more or less educated person ... in Ottoman Turkey, the Armenians held pretty good posts ... as in Russia today (officials, tv, media) ... against Turkey you took the side of Ri and allies then ... now against Russia take the side of the United States and allies ... have forgotten anti-Russian rallies? burning of the Russian flag? throwing embassies with eggs, siktyr Lavrov, etc. ???
.

Quote: garnik

I do not understand the actions of the leaders of a great country who belittle themselves to the level of Turkey.

a provocation aimed at cheering patriots ..... I always heard about great Armenia from Armenians, never about great Russia .... but I heard a lot that when the Armenians were Christians, the Russians lived on trees ... I heard that Jesus is Armenian)))

Quote: garnik

.Your Fuad on the talk show has split

your Armenians split in Russia for a long time ... for today, the strategic interests of Russia and Turkey coincide .... and all non-Armenians on the talk show say this, and politicians in Russia understand this (you did not know that in the Foreign Ministry and in the special services and There are analysts for the president who calculate actions and policies for the future?) .. with the exception of those paid ... and the Armenians drown for their own, neglecting the interests of a great country, for the sake of their under-state, which exists (exists nominally, nothing is already there, everything is bought Russia, and the borders are guarded by Russian border guards) thanks to Russia.

[garnik]

No need to drive any nonsense on a reputable resource. Everything that you write is well absorbed in your homeland. Here, people are familiar with the Internet, you can always check what has been said.
A quote from Peter the Great about the Turks to recall, whom you despise. And so the whole Christian world thinks. Arabs are not happy with you, and the Chinese and Indians are not happy.

[garnik]

Well, yes, after they voluntarily converted to Islam, and reading is ridiculous.
And you have all the opposition crypto-Armenians. The truth is, according to the testimony of an Israeli scientist, there is evidence that the Arab Arabs are Cilician Armenians, only that they themselves do not know.

[Geterosigma]

The Turks finally had a chance to clear the field from the now hated Kurdish American friends. They offered the Kurds to enter the settlement process, but they chose the US military depots and turned on their Wishlist, so Russia, trying to convince them again, realized that it was useless and sad to show the “face” to the Sultan and left the region. And One player has become less on the map.
I want to note that there were no regrets; they simply took and broke in without talking, and moreover, they immediately told the Americans whether they would fit in, kill them ..

[newcomer]

judging by the Internet (according to unconfirmed data) _ there are already losses among the Yankees instructors.

[Wolka]

not otherwise the Turks entered the rage ...

[tosha.chuhontzev]

In fact, Erdogan is thus trying to eliminate the Syrian informal armed units that he armed against Assad. The same story happened and is happening in the Donbass: some utilized the Russian World, and Poroshenko had their own national bats.

[Polite Moose]

Ankara does not intend to limit itself to an operation in Syrian Afrin and, in the event of threats to its security, will fight them in Syrian Manbij, east of the Euphrates, as well as in the Iraqi regions of Sinjar and Kandil

Yes, it's just some kind of holiday !!!!

[Anton Capucin]

The Kurds wanted their state; autonomy is not enough for them. Could calmly and slowly unite, but no. Let now eat a lot and tasty, so you look and Iraq and Iran will catch up. Now they are kicking well, and there you look all the ardent and free will be reduced. It’s a pity for ordinary Kurds, but Turkey will definitely not give them half the country, Ottoman imperial ambitions will not allow it. They cannot even agree among themselves, but Kurdistan is great.

[demo]

They used to say this: a glass fool fool ... not for long. Either it will fly, or it will lose.
The Sultan wants, but whether it can - this is a question.
His army is hot and the largest, in the region, but not very combat-ready. And when the boxes begin to arrive in Turkey, this may not be pleasant to the residents.
A ground military unit will be more complicated and more dangerous than bombing itself as a VKS.

Although the Kurds howled, they were still not very scared.
That's when the count of killed Kurds goes to thousands, then they will start spinning, like in a frying pan.
But if the Kurds in Turkey itself raise their heads, then the Sultan will not be very fun.
So the statement to get into Iraq is the populism of a hot Turk, and no more.
Silenok is not enough. Washes to tear.
And then we can see a completely different calico - the collapse of Turkey.

[Safevi]

You will never see the collapse of Turkey! It is not known who will survive whom else

[protoss]

Quote: demo

But if the Kurds in Turkey itself raise their heads, then the Sultan will not be very fun.

So they lifted them in 2015-2016, suppressed them, who managed to do so - they dumped them into Syria until the Turks built a wall, now these escaped people make up the backbone of SDS. so if their Turks even get there, it’s kind of like fighting terrorism on not very distant approaches

[mariusdeyeraleone]

Turkey is a state.
Usa is a bank

[Bypassed]

The Sultan will go to Iraq - well, a flag in his hands, a drum around his neck.
He was personally in the Persian Gulf, during the next war of the Bush family. Not on vacation, at work, though not in the conflict zone itself. Seen enough and Arabs and Syrians and Pakistanis and Turks and all sorts. After only two weeks, I clearly understood, looking at the next “native”, how he mentally wonders how to cover the unfaithful pale-faced person.
Honestly, the Kurds-Turks are not sorry for any of the parties to the conflict. The main goal of the Russian Federation has already been achieved - oil on the market is already $ 70, further military operations, even without the Russian Federation, will contribute to the game to increase the cost of a barrel. Here is the current all the foam will go to the inhabitants of Londongrad - but such is the reality.

[Bgfen]

I think that the U.S. is safe and sound. Tilerson is directly involved in the sale of oil. But it took a little time, otherwise the European partners would test. Still, they are buyers of oil and gas, not sellers. I more believe in the connection between Trump and Russia oil giants, not some other line. Money doesn’t smell and the elites of the two states associated with the sale of oil products fully have common goals to increase the cost of oil and lower the cost of production. A war is the best way to achieve two business goals.

[steelmaker]

Let's transfer the territories to their owners - I hope he is responsible for his words? If you believe them, then Russia should help them. We must learn to do the work with the wrong hands!

[garnik]

Erdogan-Georgian, Abdul Gul-Armenian .After the genocide of Christians, many mixed marriages appeared, and not all of them are voluntary. If a crypto-Armenian calls himself a Turk or a Kurd, then respect for these people is lower than for the same Turks and Kurds from the Armenians. And you have crypto-Armenians (children of mixed marriages) who have no place in “tolerant” Baku.

[Nikolai Passerby]

The successes of the Turkish army in Afghanistan are still modest ... And they were already going to fight in Iraq.