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Lech Walesa: Fascism flourishes in Poland

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The resonant statement was made by the former President of Poland Lech Walesa. He commented on a recent report on Polish television, when journalists secretly entered the closed party of Polish neo-Nazis. According to Walesa, the country is no longer just looking up, but real fascism is flourishing.


Lech Walesa: Fascism flourishes in Poland


According to the former head of state, a neo-Nazi party is far from an isolated event of fascism in Poland.
Returning to the report of Polish journalists, it is necessary to say that a story was shown on Polish TV that representatives of one of the neo-Nazi groups in the country during the real sabbath shouted slogans in support of the ideas of Adolf Hitler, and devoured cake, with the image of the symbolism of the Third Reich. At the same time, the young people themselves were wearing Nazi military uniforms of the pattern of occupation of Poland by Hitler's Germany.

In Poland, this action was called "terrifying."

All the more strange ... Calling the neo-Nazi sabbath a “terrifying spectacle”, in Poland both politicians and members of the public clearly see through their fingers how monuments to those who lay down their heads in the struggle against Nazism and the struggle for the liberation of Poland from the Nazi occupation. Moreover, the current Polish elites have brought a legal framework for the fight against the monuments and burials of Soviet soldiers-liberators.
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  1. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 23 January 2018 19: 21
    21
    He began Polish movements, relying on trade unions.
    1. Anarchist
      Anarchist 23 January 2018 19: 27
      15
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      He began Polish movements, relying on trade unions.

      Well, you need to disown in time! What is he trying to do ...
      Sorry, not a word about Amerikosikov!
      1. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 23 January 2018 19: 39
        14
        Walesa himself is an enemy of the communist regime. After coming to power, he laid the foundation for the current political system in Poland. Reaping the fruits of their own workdays.
        1. avt
          avt 23 January 2018 19: 56
          +8
          Quote: oleg-gr
          Walesa himself is an enemy of the communist regime.

          Agent Lelik? bully
          1. The black
            The black 23 January 2018 19: 58
            10
            Churchill is better about the Poles and you will not say - hyenas of Europe .....
            1. volodya
              volodya 23 January 2018 20: 03
              +8
              Is it only in Poland! All Baltic States, Poland, Ukraine! And many more.
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 23 January 2018 20: 20
                13
                Quote: volodya
                Is it only in Poland! All Baltic States, Poland, Ukraine! And many more.

                ... wait a second! ... not so quick ... Poland as a State ended in 1795 ... and for more than 200 years, no one knew about such a state ... well, it is even more interesting with the Baltic States ... there have never been any Lithuania , Latvia or Estonia ... the only thing the Lithuanians can boast of was part of the Russian-Lithuanian Principality or the Polish-Lithuanian ... and no more ... all the other Fairytale transformations into States happened just after the collapse of the Russian Empire by the Bolshevik-Communists in 1917, as well as by their own hands of the same Communists, the collapse of the USSR in 1991 ... one the twentieth man who returned the Russian State to the borders was due to I.V. Stalin ... did not even forget Port Arthur and added the South Kuril Islands to the Russian State ... that is, after the Autocracy, there was only One, brought up under him who understood Borders value and geopolitical importance ... including control of Eastern Europe (CMEA / Warsaw Pact countries) ... hi
                1. alexhol
                  alexhol 23 January 2018 20: 48
                  +1
                  You are not very good at math. However, history also needs to be learned. Well, the new Natsik in any country can be found. Today it is in Russia, the most favorable ground for neo-Nazism. Slurred policies in the field of regulation of migration processes, the lack of a social elevator, will ultimately lead to an explosion in a society where neo-Nazis will play the fiddle
                  1. vlad66
                    vlad66 23 January 2018 20: 57
                    11
                    Quote: alexhol
                    Today it is in Russia, the most favorable soil for neo-Nazism

                    In Belarus, quietness and grace
                    And so yes I agree with you
                    Quote: alexhol
                    Well, new Natsik, in any country you can find
                    1. cniza
                      cniza 23 January 2018 21: 01
                      +2
                      Vlad, this shit is spreading everywhere, and if you don’t burn it, we’ll soon regret it.
                      1. Shurik70
                        Shurik70 23 January 2018 22: 14
                        0
                        Quote: Black
                        Churchill is better about the Poles and you will not say - hyenas of Europe .....

                        You can’t talk about the whole of Poland. The desire of the Poles for personal freedom to the detriment of statehood led to a sad result - there is NO ONE people. There are several (tens) groups, each of which has people who sincerely consider themselves patriots, but striving for the opposite. And they call those who are not in their camp traitors.
                        There are fascists, but there are those who preserve monuments to Soviet soldiers, and wears flowers for them. So that Poland is, but there is no single people. Each country has a “Fifth Column”, but Poland is probably the only one where there are several such columns, and in total they make up the majority of the population.
                    2. marlin1203
                      marlin1203 24 January 2018 11: 23
                      0
                      Something dead some Natsik in the photo ... and these pants in the background ...
              2. Berber
                Berber 24 January 2018 09: 38
                0
                Not only the former countries of the Warsaw Pact, but also all the former republics of the USSR, including our allies, have claims against the Russians. Good do not remember.
          2. Thrall
            Thrall 23 January 2018 19: 59
            +7
            Nothing is new ...
            Poles destroying Jewish villagers before entering the village of SS-Soviets became a symbol of complicity with fascism at the beginning of World War II.
            1. alexhol
              alexhol 23 January 2018 20: 50
              -1
              What are the countries where Jews were loved. In the general population, Jews have always been apart, at best.
              1. vlad66
                vlad66 23 January 2018 21: 22
                +9
                Quote: alexhol
                What are the countries where Jews were loved. In the general population, Jews have always been apart, at best.

                here you go
                Quote: alexhol
                Today it is in Russia, the most favorable ground for neo-Nazism.

                Nazism gives your words to a young man. yes
              2. Sergej1972
                Sergej1972 24 January 2018 04: 01
                +1
                Georgians claim that they are almost the only people in the world who have never offended Jews.
        2. antivirus
          antivirus 23 January 2018 20: 35
          +1
          the fascists will knock him and knock on the coffin-- "the liberal died"
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 23 January 2018 19: 28
      11
      In Poland, the most terrible concentration camps were created and the furnaces worked around the clock .. And in Ukraine, a huge number of civilians who died from the new order of “valiant Wehrmacht troops” .. Paradox men! soldier It all comes from Western propaganda and the fear of the Russian threat! After all, we know how to break ridges to many conquerors, this is already in our blood ... While we are observing, grinding our teeth and clenching our fists ..
      1. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 23 January 2018 19: 45
        +2
        But how to deal with these nonsense? After all, we also have such ones. Only by law, having outlawed and imprisoned. It is better, of course, to count.
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 23 January 2018 20: 27
          +3
          Even the dumb tell the truth when the whole world is silent:
        2. ludoger
          ludoger 24 January 2018 04: 39
          +3
          dear Alexander 3
          maybe it’s wiser to knock out a social base from under them? to ensure the equality of ALL nationalities before the law? bring the legislative framework in order? finally give people the nation-forming nation (Russian) the opportunity to work, and get decent pay for labor, and not import cheap abreks? sat a little in the country? and so half the male population purrs in a hair dryer.
          no? well then let's brand me a fascist
          1. Alexander 3
            Alexander 3 24 January 2018 06: 56
            +1
            Terrorism and fascism have no nationality. The humiliation of other nationalities to exalt their own is fascism. The Lord created everyone the same way.
          2. Berber
            Berber 24 January 2018 09: 41
            +1
            Who wants to work - works. Abreks have nothing to do with it. You need to respect yourself. In general, ask the question, what does it mean - Russian. Ask yourself.
      2. alexhol
        alexhol 23 January 2018 20: 53
        0
        Something you all "mixed in a bunch."
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 23 January 2018 19: 33
      +9
      What they fought for and ran into, he himself began perestroika with the trade unions, which is now surprising yes
    4. tol100v
      tol100v 23 January 2018 19: 40
      +3
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      He began Polish movements, relying on trade unions.

      That's the whole "Solidarity" fed by the State Department and MI-6!
    5. japs
      japs 23 January 2018 20: 02
      +6
      It should be noted that the Gdansk electrician at the State Department Tugriks "Solidarity" created and organized a "color" revolution. About this he is not gu-gu.
    6. Baloo
      Baloo 23 January 2018 20: 28
      +4
      Quote: ul_vitalii
      He began Polish movements, relying on trade unions.

      Tsrul Walesa complains of home-grown fascists. Afraid of your estate? Let him tell you what babos what overwork the former electrician of the mine earned such luxurious mansions.
    7. rruvim
      rruvim 23 January 2018 23: 10
      +1
      Not so it was. There was a stir, then the unions chose Lech. Lech was fired. Lech pulled out. Although he was against it. Well, when pulled out, he screamed. Then it turned out that he worked as an “office”. Then they “hushed up”. In any case, an ordinary man - a mechanic, fell into the millstones of History ...
      1. Berber
        Berber 24 January 2018 09: 44
        0
        I’ve got a good hit, I’ll say. In any case, I do not like pshegov. There must be a spirit behind ambition, and these are empty chimes.
    8. andrewkor
      andrewkor 24 January 2018 06: 10
      0
      It is known that romantics make a revolution, and an electrician from Gdansk cannot but be a romantic, but the villains use its results!
  2. siberalt
    siberalt 23 January 2018 19: 22
    12
    So Poland came from "Solidarity" to fascism. Let Walesa better tell us where his Gdansk shipyard went after the “perestroika” he organized?
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 23 January 2018 19: 29
    +6
    Oh really? Who says this, the formidable Walesa himself ... hmm, and then he will say - We didn’t want this, how did it happen !!! -
    1. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 23 January 2018 19: 36
      +9
      By the way, moving away from business, he became white and fluffy. And more recently, he was persecuted and accused of collaborating with the KGB and the special services of the NDP for his moderate views. He has something to be offended by.
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 23 January 2018 19: 42
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      We didn’t want this, how did it happen !!! -

      Almost Belovezhskaya Pushcha!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 23 January 2018 21: 38
        +3
        He is not a friend to us, but as a leader, a strong person, he should be respected.
        Not on human blood and hatred of everyone and everything, he took place as a politician.
        Therefore, I wrote that now he has claims to the current government of his country.
        But anyway, he stood at the origins of what has grown !!!
  4. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 January 2018 19: 32
    +4
    Well, right Columbus from politics wassat ! True, but where did fascism come from, Loch Walesa does not know by chance? Where did Poland get nasty with this muck, and didn’t it spread neighbors? How will the country be treated for this infection? Will they call our army? ??
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 23 January 2018 19: 43
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      How will the country be treated for this infection?

      Only total burning out! Like an infected wound!
      1. Senior manager
        Senior manager 23 January 2018 20: 02
        +3
        Bankers FSA rule. There is a total revival of fascism in geyropov. They have one goal - to destroy RUSSIA. Failed in 41-45gg, they are preparing a new campaign. You don’t even have to remember Grandma Wang. And again with the wrong hands and lives. History moves in a spiral, it is difficult to object to anything.
        1. Berber
          Berber 24 January 2018 09: 50
          0
          Fascism is not being revived by bankers, but what they skillfully use is yes. And of course, “supporting national aspirations” is democratic. In general, they use all the tools, such as religion, but nationalism is a favorite.
  5. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 23 January 2018 19: 39
    +4
    This moral and moral hoopoe, who managed to work both for the KGB and the Americans, shook everything in Poland as well. I was in Poland at that time, I worked at a shipyard, I saw a lot with my own eyes.
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 23 January 2018 21: 49
      +2
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      he shook everything in Poland.

      Well, and, as usual, now includes the "good grandfather", yeah. And kindly, by the way, then Pan Jaruzelsky acted, not allowing the hard suppression of unrest. As it turns out - in vain. yes
      We are not afraid of any events in Poland
      After all, there are more and more patriotic heroes every day
      And for a contra, like Lech Walesa,
      May they re-open Buchenwald and Auschwitz ...
      Egor Letov, The New Patriotic .1987 (!!!)
      1. rruvim
        rruvim 23 January 2018 22: 20
        +1
        Eternal memory to Yegor! He sang what even Tel Yavisor now agrees with.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 23 January 2018 22: 45
          +1
          Quote: rruvim
          Eternal memory to Yegor!

          In February, ten years will be ...
          1. rruvim
            rruvim 23 January 2018 22: 52
            0
            I remember. I know ...
            1. rruvim
              rruvim 23 January 2018 22: 55
              +2
              In any case, as for Valencia: "Everything goes according to plan ..."
  6. Dormidont
    Dormidont 23 January 2018 19: 45
    +2
    Revelation came down on a wood
  7. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2018 19: 51
    +1
    the country is no longer just raising its head, but real fascism is flourishing

    I was surprised
    Commonwealth speech has always been a fascist state
    1. alexhol
      alexhol 23 January 2018 20: 57
      -1
      Give examples, please.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 23 January 2018 22: 55
        0
        In April 1935, shortly before the death of Pilsudski, the new constitution of Poland was adopted. She established the principle of unity of command and granted dictatorial powers to the country's president Ignatius Mostitsky. But in practice, Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigly became the new leader. A network of concentration camps has been created in the country. There were discriminatory rules for national minorities - Ukrainians, Belarusians, Jews, Germans, Lithuanians and other peoples living in the territory of the Polish Republic.

        Regime 1935 - 1939 relied on the massive Polish nationalist party National Unity Camp, which the Polish fascist party National Radical Camp - the Phalanx rivaled. These movements were united by Polish chauvinism, anti-communism and anti-Semitism.
        1. alexhol
          alexhol 24 January 2018 09: 46
          -1
          One of the "network of concentration camps" is Birch-Kartuzskaya. A document dated January 20, 1939 with the layout of food for the nutrition of one prisoner has been preserved. Breakfast: coffee (25 g), sugar (25 g), bread (700 g), cottage cheese (50 g). Lunch: grout [flour (120 g), potatoes (500 g), corned beef (40 g), salt (30 g), onions (10 g)]. Dinner: cereal [potatoes (1 kg), corned beef (15 g), barley groats (100 g)]. You, Vladimir, please be interested in information from various sources.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2018 10: 01
            0
            what are you talking about?
            1. alexhol
              alexhol 24 January 2018 10: 10
              -1
              About the "cruel Polish regime" of the thirties. I come from Western Belarus and remember well what the old people told about “the terrible times of the Polish occupation”.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2018 13: 53
                0
                Quote: alexhol
                About the "cruel Polish regime" of the thirties. I come from Western Belarus and remember well what the old people told about “the terrible times of the Polish occupation”.

                dear, don’t be stupid, the Polish regime was openly fascist, it’s violet to me what and how the old people told you, the Germans didn’t live badly under Hitler, but this does not mean that there was socialism
                1. alexhol
                  alexhol 24 January 2018 19: 37
                  -1
                  Yes. There was - and that’s it. I think so". And everything else is "purple." The discussion is over good .
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2018 19: 52
                    0
                    Quote: alexhol
                    Yes. There was - and that's it

                    fool
                    you would at least read the definitions of social systems and understand the difference between ideologies
          2. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 24 January 2018 13: 59
            0
            Quote: alexhol
            One of the "network of concentration camps" is Birch-Kartuzskaya. A document dated January 20, 1939 with the layout of food for the nutrition of one prisoner has been preserved. Breakfast: coffee (25 g), sugar (25 g), bread (700 g), cottage cheese (50 g). Lunch: grout [flour (120 g), potatoes (500 g), corned beef (40 g), salt (30 g), onions (10 g)]. Dinner: cereal [potatoes (1 kg), corned beef (15 g), barley groats (100 g)]. You, Vladimir, please be interested in information from various sources.

            http://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/1751
            585
        2. alexhol
          alexhol 24 January 2018 09: 52
          -1
          Over the five years of the camp’s existence, according to V. Sleshynsky’s calculations, 13 (THIRTEEN !!!) prisoners died from ill-treatment in the camp.
          A document dated January 20, 1939 with the layout of food for the nutrition of one prisoner has been preserved. Breakfast: coffee (25 g), sugar (25 g), bread (700 g), cottage cheese (50 g). Lunch: grout [flour (120 g), potatoes (500 g), corned beef (40 g), salt (30 g), onions (10 g)]. Dinner: cereal [potatoes (1 kg), corned beef (15 g), barley groats (100 g)].
          Concentration camp Birch-Kartuzskaya
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  8. HEATHER
    HEATHER 23 January 2018 19: 54
    +2
    Fascism is flourishing in Poland? This is not news for us. Like in Ukraine. We forgot who we owe our lives to.
  9. taiga2018
    taiga2018 23 January 2018 20: 11
    +2
    Anglo-Saxons also hoped that German Nazism would be directed only against the USSR, but it turned out that they themselves had to fight them off. So the Poles thought to use Ukrainian Nazism against Russia, and this infection came to them ...
  10. faterdom
    faterdom 23 January 2018 20: 29
    +1
    Does he compete with Gorbachev? Who is more, or who is the first to be surprised?
  11. alexhol
    alexhol 23 January 2018 21: 09
    -1
    What is this organization?
    1. rruvim
      rruvim 23 January 2018 23: 36
      0
      Russian National Unity. Group of Barkashov, one of the associates of the non-government pension fund "Memory". She left the White House on the night of the 1993 assault, although they were fully armed ... unlike us.
  12. mavrus
    mavrus 23 January 2018 21: 31
    +3
    And someone is interested in his opinion now? He, like Gorby, is a waste material ... They fulfilled the task of the Phashington regional committee ... And now they have a place in the garbage can of history.
  13. noct
    noct 23 January 2018 21: 40
    0
    let it go. you just need to update the monuments. version 2.0 download
  14. rruvim
    rruvim 23 January 2018 21: 58
    +1
    Sorry Lehu! I ran in the late 70s with the Banners. Kissed with Dad! And you need, I ran into the Nazis repeat
  15. demo
    demo 23 January 2018 22: 01
    +2
    It’s for you, Sterosov’s club, which in the 80s led the Solidarity movement, let the Polish people say thanks.
    Matured, woodpecker.
  16. rruvim
    rruvim 23 January 2018 22: 47
    +1
    Lech, by the way, was sincerely a worker and a socialist, i.e. was a worker, then a socialist. In Gdansk, he was loved. He was and is a believing Catholic. His "romanticism" of the early 80s is understandable, but in any case, he could only lead to Polish nationalism. The revival of Polish nationalism is not bad - it is very, very, good! For all of us ... For Russia and Germany. Not for the first time, same yes
    https://youtu.be/fjPM9ViqbxM
    1. Berber
      Berber 24 January 2018 09: 55
      0
      But I agree with that. Now in Europe there are two adequate peoples - we and the Germans (not to be confused with governments).
  17. rruvim
    rruvim 23 January 2018 23: 59
    0
    For all of us, Walesa should be an example.
    An example of how an ordinary worker becomes a union leader;
    An example of how an ordinary worker was a consistent Catholic (Orthodox);
    An example of how an ordinary worker was noticed;
    An example is how an ordinary worker organized a union and became its leader.
    This is not an example: Putin appointed the chief of the shop as the plenipotentiary in the Urals.
    Only here it seems to be in favor, and there the party top of Poland was against it.
    Only, Lech Walesa "knocked" on his comrades in the organs, and his comrades on him. Simple practice yes
  18. rruvim
    rruvim 24 January 2018 00: 21
    0
    How many centuries have we lived with the Poles? Then they are us (from 1612), then we are them. That they are with us (we served a huge number of officers and the nobility). Those are two revolutions (separatist in Poland). Then they are with us again ... etc. etc. You cannot find the worst enemy, but also the best friend ... But, the fact that we have always been together: both in hatred and in love - is unambiguous! Even the nationalism of the Poles, he’s kind of “native,” he sits in every Russian’s soul (though they gave them a kick with their False Dmitry), the Poles, though reptiles, are still their bastards. Who was in Poland in Soviet times will understand. Yes, and now has not changed much. What the people of Solidarity did is not the "evil craft" of the West, it is the usual Polish pride multiplied by ignorance.
    1. faterdom
      faterdom 24 January 2018 01: 16
      +2
      With the Poles in tsarist times they messed up. When, after two centuries of extremely unsuccessful domestic and foreign policy, which was largely blamed on the Polish indefatigable, riotous and arrogant gentry, in the part that RI got, the father-tsar took and equated them with the Russian nobility in rights. Despite the fact that the gentry in relation to the commoners in Poland was 10 !!! times more than in Russia. Steeper, probably, was only in Georgia - in every village a prince!
      Naturally, when such a large number of "proud elites" - wait for problems. And they were from the Polish gentry in bulk.
  19. Geisenberg
    Geisenberg 24 January 2018 13: 18
    0
    Agent Bolek has received sight! Oh miracle !!! )))