Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin made it clear that Kiev will not pick up its military equipment from the Crimea in response to Moscow’s offer. The head of Ukraine’s foreign ministry told reporters today.

Warships belonging to Ukraine in Streletskaya Bay, Sevastopol

We [with Russia] do not have any dialogue on issues relating to the status of Crimea, and we will not do any things that could weaken our legal or political position

- declared Klimkin. In addition, the minister indicated that Kiev did not receive an official appeal from Russia, and called the Moscow proposal a "trick".

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia is ready to return its military equipment from the Crimea to Ukraine, although it is in a deplorable state. Later, the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Igor Voronchenko, said that this issue required "very careful study." In turn, the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine noted that they are working on this issue. Later, Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman made it clear that Kiev was not ready to agree to the return of Ukrainian military equipment from the Crimea, in the form proposed by Moscow, reports TASS.

Comments

[corporal]

The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

[St Petrov]

the rich have their own quirks.

although there the whole country with a weirdo - though not rich. Strange is all of course.

[volodya]

Take away! They probably already calculated how much scrap!

[SRC P-15]

Quote: volodya

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Right! Why do these rusty trough drag here and there? Here Ukraine will join Russia, and the ships are already in place!

[210ox]

I’m not so sure, but even now against it .. Why do we need freeloaders and potential traitors? No, of course there are Russian regions and it’s worth a look. But the center and the west are not needed in FIG.

Quote: SRC P-15

Quote: volodya

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Right! Why do these rusty trough drag here and there? Here Ukraine will join Russia, and the ships are already in place!

[bulvas]

Quote: volodya

Take away! They probably already calculated how much scrap!

Quote: bouncyhunter

Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

Pasha - the scout’s eye and brain are immediately visible!

I agree with you, not so simple, actually

They will not take it, they hope in the future to demand compensation from Russia for the property of the Armed Forces and the Navy

If they take it away, it means that they recognize Crimea for Russia, and so it stands in its parking lots, Russia is responsible for the property that it “annexed” along with Crimea

We should have made an official proposal to Ukraine and warned that it was not responsible for the property of the Russian Federation.

If you want - take it away, no - later we will ask you for payment for storage

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: bulvas

They will not take

Hook in tow, and throw opposite the raid of Odessa.

[Normal ok]

Quote: Elena Zakharova

opposite the raid

It is written either "on the roadstead of Odessa" or "in the sea opposite Odessa." "Opposite the raid" is actually Odessa itself

[faridg7]

Quote: Elena Zakharova

Hook in tow, and throw opposite the raid of Odessa.

When this news slipped through, they discussed it in their circle, came to the conclusion that they should be dragged to Odessa and Ochakov, and then left on the fairway with open Kingston or with holes. Wrecks representing a threat to shipping are raised at the expense of the owner of the vessel, and after receiving compensation for the costs of lifting, it is returned to the owner (in case of excess of costs over the value of the vessel, the owner can refuse it in favor of the rescuers, with a difference)
Oh, the captains of the ports of Odessa and Nikolaev with Ukrainian admirals will somehow be sorted out when so much iron is put on nails

[kirgiz58]

Quote: 210ox

. But the center and the west and FIG is not needed.

How it is not needed !! We return everything, and then we rent the western regions together with Bandera Poland, Hungary, Romania. We kill three birds with one stone without even shooting: you don’t need to feed and dress Bandera in Kolyma either, there will be money in the budget, and coffin neighbors are grateful to us for land and slaves.

[210ox]

There already Moldovan gypsies drooled in line ..

Quote: volodya

Take away! They probably already calculated how much scrap!

[vlad66]

Well do not, so do not for scrap and perepi themselves lim, well, Ukrainians only a joke: A Ukrainian submarine pops up somewhere in the states. Well, the Yankees begin to laugh at them, they say such antediluvian, she even cannot swim normally, and then one of the Americans asks between them:
- Does she make 5 nodes?
Hohol:
- will do
- And 10?
- Will do!
- And 15?
- If you don’t fly flippers, it will.

[bouncyhunter]

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

[Tusv]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

Good evening. Then Pasha understand, they are sunbathing at a fine parking lot. For three years, probably already on 3 frigate frigates. They won’t think it over.

[bouncyhunter]

Mutually, Volodya!

Quote: Tusv

They won’t think it over.

And there is something to think about?

[Tusv]

Quote: bouncyhunter

And there is something to think about?

What. The lackeys should crack forelocks. Dumka is forbidden to grow rich. Take a look yourself. Not only that, pay for the parking lot, so a lot of tugboats take out the trough. Nada again to bow to the achressor. As a normal Svidomo it is digested. And then Stockholm ordered to buy a haz and pay for some reason. Brrrr
Can you imagine what they’ve created there? And you think about something

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: Tusv

Can you imagine what they’ve done there

To be honest - I have long abandoned all attempts to understand what is happening in Ukraine ...

[Tusv]

Quote: bouncyhunter

To be honest - I have long abandoned all attempts to understand what is happening in Ukraine ...

What is there to understand. Solid Russian folk proverbs and sayings. Our language is no longer understood, but have not yet learned how to. In addition, for the normal functioning of the brain, you need a head, fingers, and .. sorry booty. And there FSE what up. It was good, but it got worse. The Americans are already fleeing from them. One not-so-frail American company sent its head office from Kiev to Moscow along with the main staff. Oh my God!. You explain in pure Russian - in response there - I worked in the tax, I know better - Which one? - Ukrainian .... What is the understanding of what is happening, Pasha

[vlad66]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

They think that they will get along with the peninsula, then they themselves are unlikely to swim. Well, the peninsula will either be seen as their ears or they will rot. But seriously, after March 18, they hope that they will come back, repent and also pay.

[bouncyhunter]

Quote: vlad66

they hope that they will return, repent, and also pay.

And they can’t write out a bolt from the wheel of BelAZ? Dreamers, panimayesh ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

Hello Pasha. In the process, they realized that if they give consent, they will be embarrassed before the world with the earlier statements that they are at war with Russia, which is absolutely “bereavement” giving their stuff. On the other hand, dill was in vain anyway, because there were no topics for whining on the world stage because Russia was aggressively expropriating this rubbish from urkaine. Where not to throw, everywhere zrada.

[bouncyhunter]

Hi Dima!

Quote: Nyrobsky

Where not to throw, everywhere zrada.

They arrived, they were sickly: around a zrada on a zrada and a zrada drives. To what have sunk, there are no decent words for a long time ...

[Vkd dvk]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

Very simple. If the iron remains with us, then, without inspection of its condition, it will sink. And then ukrozopy will demand loot. If they take it, then the iron will drown anyway. But, then, the loot will not be with anyone.

[mig29mks]

They want us to repair everything and only then they think to pick up or not)))

[dropout]

A submarine in the steppes of Ukraine Killed in an unequal aerial battle, "And a polar bear for no reason sings her mournful song ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Corporal

The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

Well, why, we’ll even send T-34 masters from the pedestals to the Donbass .. hehe Main desire and Faith in Victory! And let these wait for their "Javelins" and the Hamers written off .. Let's see who whom ..!

[svp67]

Quote: Corporal

We’ll sell it for scrap.

[Dedall]

Dear forum users, maybe we’ll send everything to museums. And then in the USA there are about 120 pieces of state aviation museums only, and we have one and only one in Monino. But it’s very difficult to get there. And besides, the flying equipment standing in the open air makes a very depressing impression. Aluminum also rusts, turning into a white powder. Another ten years - and everything will crumble.

[Grits]

In vain you are so about these boats. Not everyone there is completely worthless. There are those that can still serve with minimal repairs. Or do we have enough tugs? Or maybe our defense industry ships rivets like hot cakes? Something too much, we consider ourselves rich, that we are ready to drown the ships, which can either be repaired or disassembled into organs. Yes, in extreme cases, I think that any commercial structure will not give up a bunch of free scrap metal. And cunning guys from equipment containing gold.

[73bor]

I suggest just towing the ships into the sea and drown in front of the hohlopogranichnikov!

[AVGUST]

Well, hurt yourself, not only are you going to pump up on a large scale at sea, secondly, you will pay for the fuel so that you can drag it all out to sea and transport it to the adjacent side, and even not let anyone make money on it, well, right in our (Russian) in the spirit ......... don’t be a dog in the manger already .......... (I wouldn’t refuse to pick it up, I could have drunk myself a new car) + I’ve completed the garage and bought an apartment

[Gray brother]

Quote: Corporal

The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

I bet the bubble that in this case, Ukrainians will begin to whine for compensation))
It is better to flood in the middle of the Black Sea - let them take it from there, since the Svidomo faith does not allow them to take it from Russia))

[rocket757]

You can’t drown, have mercy !!!
You sho, the green peck and will be very right ... we need it!
Sell ​​for one symbolically rupe to the natives on needles !!! Get rid of this heme. with recycling ... believe me, in your scrap metal in bulk, you would have to get rid of it without unnecessary costs !!!!

[Gray brother]

Quote: rocket757

You sho, green peep

They don’t peck, before flooding the ships peel off to the bare hull, then all sorts of marine organisms settle on it - it’s a complete use.

[rocket757]

Such a normal cleaning of money costs a lot !!! Better to give to the natives ... the truth is they are not in the Black Sea yet, but dill strive for this, can we wait?

[Gray brother]

Quote: rocket757

Such a normal cleaning of money costs a lot !!!

This means the dismantling of everything that is unscrewed and comes off - right up to the wiring and drain of all liquids. Knowing the navy - stopudovo there half of such work has already been completed)))

[rocket757]

Not naval, I can’t know. For the disposal of any harmful muck strongly in the know, EXPENSIVE !!!

[Gray brother]

Quote: rocket757

For the disposal of any harmful muck strongly in the know, EXPENSIVE !!!

They will even pay extra for oil, but the solariums are no longer there.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Corporal

The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

Why mess with balbes? They will immediately demand money. Tow these troughs and flood on the Odessa traverse in neutral waters.

[rocket757]

Shaw for the idea, you can’t drown, heme ... then the smut will not be small.
To sell, and to transfer the symbolic money to the piglet ... to arrange everything through foreign companies !!! then let them dill butt.

[Gray brother]

Quote: rocket757

Shaw for the idea, you can’t drown,

Otherwise, they themselves will lie down on the shore because of a poor technical condition.

[rocket757]

Zalyagut, that's right! Maintain this junk afloat, identity costs money, the further, the more!
It’s especially impossible to pull. but ill-conceived actions do not need to be done.
Problem. Let's see how they decide.

[Black_Vatnik]

Litter with rusty iron, but do not want to clean!

[St Petrov]

and how many screams were about the "weaning" of the Russian Federation a miracle of technology for trillions of pounds

[Angel_and_Demon]

Quote: c-Petrov

and how many screams were about the "weaning" of the Russian Federation a miracle of technology for trillions of pounds

give to the Chinese needles

[St Petrov]

so the Chinese will have to pay for disposal. Petro does not throw money. He is a businessman.

Here's to yourself to pay from the budget for something - from ce garno

[Angel_and_Demon]

the Chinese are gambling and will not choke

[Gray brother]

Quote: Angel_and_Demon

the Chinese are gambling and will not choke

In the Black Sea region, the Turks are now in charge of scrap metal.

[Angel_and_Demon]

Do you think the showdown will begin?

[cniza]

Disassembly is not disassembly, but it will be straining.

[Utlan]

They don’t want to ... that means they won’t get anything at all. Cut everything into scrap metal.

[Yuri Y.]

)) Well, why are you so tough. )) Although there is a reason, it is easier to store in the form of discs. And then the staff to keep track of the place. And so what difference does it make to them in what form they will receive their scrap metal. )) Yes, and in general you can not store and put into business. )) Then from the current consumables to give, if about decency.

[Xnumx vis]

Called. Relocated? Do not . Decency respected. You can safely decide what to do with this technique.

[St Petrov]

You can safely decide what to do with this technique.

one ensign decides everything faster than the whole Ukrainian state

[Baloo]

Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman made it clear that Kiev is not ready to agree to the return of Ukrainian military equipment from Crimea in the form that Moscow offers, TASS reports.

An honor would be offered. All junk in scrap for environmental safety reasons. What can be used (boats, rafts, etc.) to sell at an auction, through which the disposal. Something will have to be cut in place, and something will be rammed with a bulldozer and re-melted. And let katstryulki jump further.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Balu

All junk in scrap for environmental safety reasons.

Not in a businesslike way! Something on the West. parts. something can be repaired. BDK for example! With a clear conscience to use. They don’t need to!

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: 30 vis

Not in a businesslike way!

The power in Kiev is temporary and they understand this very well .. Why should they do this, take it out to restore? The United States will deliver weapons to them, they hope for it .. The slaughter will be arranged and dumped in Canada, etc ...

[Xnumx vis]

"You all perfectly understand the Russian trick. There is a key convention of the rules of war of 1907, the so-called Hague Convention. It says that weapons return after peace. The trick is to show that there is some kind of attitude towards the occupied Crimea dialogue, "said Klimkin. Yes, well, them to Edren hair dryer! In a word, you understood where, I sent a Bandera certificate!

[petrol cutter]

"We [with Russia] have no dialogue on issues regarding the status of Crimea, and we will not do any things that could weaken our legal or political position."
This part of the article seemed to me the main one.

[Anton Boldakov]

Me too. Russia wants to set up a relatively normal dialogue with Ukraine as a “friendly gesture,” and proposed to return military equipment in order to begin at least some adequate dialogue.

[senima56]

Ukrainians contrived so that it seems that they themselves have already caught in the ass!

[Nord2015]

We must invoice for the storage of another's property.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Nord2015

We must invoice for the storage of another's property.

You can set it, but getting something from them is a big problem.

[320423]

Set an invoice for storage and disposal, as well as a fine for harming the unique nature of Crimea. Plus greenpeace to incite! Threat

[Sergey-8848]

An honor would be offered ...

[Fedorov]

Vobla Ukraine will have to spend a lot. A bunch of tugboats to pull junk, non-flying tractor trucks (there are a shaft of dead planes) to pull a part, something will have to be cut in place, but this is not cheap at all. Plus combustibles many hundreds of tons. And while they finish, something may drown. And then also cut ... Warehousing, forwarding for re-melting, spending again, protecting - pay people salaries ... And the gain in the metal bay will come out with a gulkin nose.
In short - figs they will pick up in any case.

[APASUS]

A mistake was initially made in this matter. Essentially, it was not necessary to ask the country, it was necessary to indicate the date of utilization of this equipment, before this date the equipment can be taken from the "storage warehouse". Only transport services are negotiated!
And now Putin himself has driven the situation into a dead end.

[tasha]

It was required to name the date of disposal of this equipment

You are right, but it’s never too late to do this (give a date). So about the dead end, you hurried, it seems to me.

[Herculesic]

Sell ​​to China - maybe they will do something sensible of them, with a local flavor!

[svp67]

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

How? What is this scrap metal and they do not need? Well, I don’t know, maybe we’ll send to Syria ...

[igor67]

Quote: svp67

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

How? What is this scrap metal and they do not need? Well, I don’t know, maybe we’ll send to Syria ...

as if written in an article. that no official proposal was received from Russia. only Putin said that there is such an opportunity to convey

[svp67]

Quote: igor67

that no official proposal was received from Russia. only Putin said that there is such an opportunity to convey

Then HOW can I reject what has not been reported? If they needed it, then the representative of Ukraine, the same Klimkin, would say that Ukraine is INTERESTED in this proposal, and then it’s up to the diplomats and the military. And here the offer is rejected. It's okay, anyway for us

[igor67]

Quote: svp67

Quote: igor67

that no official proposal was received from Russia. only Putin said that there is such an opportunity to convey

Then HOW can I reject what has not been reported? If they needed it, then the representative of Ukraine, the same Klimkin, would say that Ukraine is INTERESTED in this proposal, and then it’s up to the diplomats and the military. And here the offer is rejected. It's okay, anyway for us

reporters asked a question to Klimkin, he answered, and immediately rejected the headlines Ukraine

[svp67]

Quote: igor67

reporters asked a question to Klimkin, he answered, and immediately rejected the headlines Ukraine

He is the OFFICER of the highest echelon. And I think that he had already discussed this issue with Poroshenko in advance. And journalists, very often ask the NECESSARY questions ....

[Rurikovich]

It is necessary to smear with fat ... They will come at night for the smell and quietly draw to themselves

[Lexus]

Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

In Odessa, the “fleet” that exists, namely 1,5 ships and 2/3 of the barge, has nowhere to park.

Naval Forces Transition from Crimea to Odessa

[Antares]

Quote: lexus

In Odessa, the “fleet” that exists, namely 1,5 ships and 2/3 of the barge, has nowhere to park.

enough for the entire NMP. And then the flotilla.
There was no official offer. What is there, there were answers to requests from journalists. They replied that the possibility exists, but here that the opportunity is rejected.

[Lexus]

enough for the entire NMP. And then the flotilla.

Then why are they forced to "huddle" at a coal terminal? But because

In 1960, the Odessa Naval Base was disbanded

Since then, there have been only some reserve units of the Black Sea Fleet and the border patrol boat division Border Guards.
There was an article on this topic on the resource
https://topwar.ru/41357-ukrainskiy-flot-vynuzhden
-iskat-novoe-mesto-dislokacii.html

[tihonmarine]

Sorry Lexus, but these are not Ukrainian warlords, they are too exhausted. Where did you see that the Ukrainians worked so hard?

[Lexus]

Everything has its time. They thought that they would meet them in the geyrope "with haircuts".

[bald]

I propose to land the ground equipment and transfer it to the owners --- DLNR !!! All in fairness, so that later they do not screech (Kiev), they say, they calmed down.

[Baloo]

Quote: bald

I propose to land the ground equipment and transfer it to the owners --- DLNR !!! All in fairness, so that later they do not screech (Kiev), they say, they calmed down.

Or a combat ready, easily repaired present to the Syrians

[bald]

Good too. And in the Crimea, cleaner, and technology will be busy.

[Grits]

I agree with you. And in Syria and the Donbass, this equipment will be taken away with a bang. And there are enough specialists there. And from junk can create a fully operational unit.

[pafegosoff]

That choke! Scrap metal on oh!

[Vincent]

Tse zrada, anyway paramog?

[tihonmarine]

Ukraine's "mighty fleet" does not need handouts! In Ukraine, the most modern and powerful Navy in Europe, which only costs the submarine "Zaporozhye" (in the steppes of Ukraine) !!!

[Baloo]

They don’t even have enough rafts for all admirals, but they refused such a mate, DB.

Quote: tihonmarine

Ukraine's "mighty fleet" does not need handouts! In Ukraine, the most modern and powerful Navy in Europe, which only costs the submarine "Zaporozhye" (in the steppes of Ukraine) !!!

[MOSKVITYANIN]

You can transfer the DNI, but no one has yet recognized the Russian Federation, so it was transferred to Ukraine ...

[Incvizitor]

It is necessary to demand money from them for disposal then.

[K-50]

Send everything for re-melting with the wording “Abandoned no man's property”.

[taiga2018]

Ukraine is a generous soul ... then a whole lard of dollars will be rolled off for "management", and now they don’t need military equipment ...

[Vlad5307]

Later, Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman made it clear that Kiev was not ready to agree to the return of Ukrainian military equipment from Crimea in the form that Moscow offers

Yeah, do they propose that Russia repair all the scrap metal at its own expense and donate it to the ukronazists for the ATO in the Donbass ?! Well, very cunning.

[razved]

They don’t want to return their equipment, so it’s for disposal.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Putin spread the Kiev junta as schoolchildren))) How will they now make a complaint if they were offered to pick up their ships, but they did not ?! )))

[Nemesis]

It is time for Putin to resign if he is going to give at least one rusty machine gun to Bandera, because these weapons will definitely be used for the genocide of the Russian people and against Russia!

[MOSKVITYANIN]

Nemesis
Putin must resign

[Nemesis]

For God's sake. I do not consider the parishioners of the drunkard center to be Russian patriots, and that says ALL.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Nemesis

one rusty machine, because this weapon will definitely be used for the genocide of the Russian people ...

... as makuya ... makuhu ... makuy ... pah !!
Well, you understand me, probably ... Goddess

[Nemesis]

I think that - We have long understood each other and we are not on the way. For me, Judas Gorbachev and Adolfush Yeltsin are enemies of Russia and the Russian people and I don’t like people who erect monuments (to the Boriski who were in the kingdom) and who ditched more Russians with Chubais than Hitler ...

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Nemesis

For me, Judas Gorbachev and Adolfush Yeltsin are enemies of Russia and the Russian people and I don’t like people who erect monuments (to the Boriski who were in the kingdom) and who ditched more Russians with Chubais than Hitler ...

This, campaign, "as advertisements."
Because it has nothing to do with what I told you.
Nemesis, you are lovely ... goddess

[kirgiz58]

Quote: Golovan Jack

as a makua ..

This is what heittle?

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: kirgiz58

Quote: Golovan Jack

as a makua ..

This is what heittle?

Exactly.

Quote: Nemesis

one rusty machine ...

... as a makua ... - quite.

Quote: Nemesis

... for the genocide of the Russian people ...

... but this - IMHO is very unlikely

[lopvlad]

Kiev will not pick up its military equipment from the Crimea

Naturally, when from every watermelon and Bandera cron for almost 4 years it barked that the Muscovites took away the most powerful Ukrainian weapons and powerful Ukrainian fleet, then in front of the whole Svidomo world, dragging rusty stuff is dumb.
It’s better to continue to bark that Muscovites took everything away, as on sheets in the 90s they wrote that Muscovites ate all Ukrainian lard, bread and drank vodka.

[Captain Nemo]

We'll have to drown ... But what, targets are always needed

[Tamek]

It would be better if they offered money for the Crimea

[Mavrikiy]

Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavel Klimkin made it clear that Kiev will not pick up its military equipment from the Crimea in response to a proposal from Moscow.

All is correct. They will squeal better - Give the ships!
And then the USA will throw inflatable boats and immediately FU (will not pull on the Navy) will appear.

[Baloo]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And then the USA will throw inflatable boats and immediately FU (will not pull on the Navy) will appear

Not enough for all admirals. Something needs to be done ...

[Berg berg]

Once refused we will offer as scrap metal to our enterprises or foreign! They won’t take them and send them on their last voyage towards Ukraine and flood in the fairways near Odessa!

[nikolaev]

Excuse me, what about Blinkin, please tell me, if there is a certificate from a psychiatrist, can I apply for a place in his venerable ward? ...

[sgr291158]

Interestingly, Kiev is not ready to accept the technology in the form in which it is. They hint that we should pass it in working order. Looks like they themselves have no money or the mind is not enough to restore it.

[raw174]

Well, they would have taken it, now they now have the MARINE CASE, and he has nothing to go on ... and from these boats you can make galleys! Sculpt a month with a cutter, cut off everything superfluous and you can train to storm the Crimean coast)))

[krokus792]

Use as targets for testing new weapons systems.

[astepanov]

I was in Sevastopol, saw these "ships". Rusty trash that Russia will have to dispose of sooner or later - otherwise they will sink in the bay. Then everything will be like in Moydodyr: Ukrainians "They will both bark, and howl, and bang their feet."

[Vanek]

It's time for ourselves to cut the metal.

They stand idle. Place only occupy.

[gukoyan]

Withdraw into neutral waters and abandon, but immediately the Panheads will demand compensation, and so why can’t they be nationalized and turned over to ferrous metal ...