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Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

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Ukrainian Foreign Minister Pavel Klimkin made it clear that Kiev will not pick up its military equipment from the Crimea in response to Moscow’s offer. The head of Ukraine’s foreign ministry told reporters today.


Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

Warships belonging to Ukraine in Streletskaya Bay, Sevastopol


We [with Russia] do not have any dialogue on issues relating to the status of Crimea, and we will not do any things that could weaken our legal or political position
- declared Klimkin. In addition, the minister indicated that Kiev did not receive an official appeal from Russia, and called the Moscow proposal a "trick".

Earlier, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia is ready to return its military equipment from the Crimea to Ukraine, although it is in a deplorable state. Later, the commander of the Ukrainian Navy, Igor Voronchenko, said that this issue required "very careful study." In turn, the Foreign Ministry of Ukraine noted that they are working on this issue. Later, Prime Minister Vladimir Groysman made it clear that Kiev was not ready to agree to the return of Ukrainian military equipment from the Crimea, in the form proposed by Moscow, reports TASS.
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  1. corporal
    corporal 22 January 2018 18: 56
    19
    The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 January 2018 18: 58
      +7
      the rich have their own quirks.

      although there the whole country with a weirdo - though not rich. Strange is all of course.
      1. volodya
        volodya 22 January 2018 19: 02
        +2
        Take away! They probably already calculated how much scrap!
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 22 January 2018 19: 11
          +9
          Quote: volodya
          Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

          Right! Why do these rusty trough drag here and there? Here Ukraine will join Russia, and the ships are already in place! wassat
          1. 210ox
            210ox 22 January 2018 20: 56
            14
            I’m not so sure, but even now against it .. Why do we need freeloaders and potential traitors? No, of course there are Russian regions and it’s worth a look. But the center and the west are not needed in FIG.
            Quote: SRC P-15
            Quote: volodya
            Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

            Right! Why do these rusty trough drag here and there? Here Ukraine will join Russia, and the ships are already in place! wassat
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 22 January 2018 21: 44
              +4
              Quote: volodya
              Take away! They probably already calculated how much scrap!


              Quote: bouncyhunter

              Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner? what


              Pasha - the scout’s eye and brain are immediately visible!

              I agree with you, not so simple, actually

              They will not take it, they hope in the future to demand compensation from Russia for the property of the Armed Forces and the Navy

              If they take it away, it means that they recognize Crimea for Russia, and so it stands in its parking lots, Russia is responsible for the property that it “annexed” along with Crimea

              We should have made an official proposal to Ukraine and warned that it was not responsible for the property of the Russian Federation.

              If you want - take it away, no - later we will ask you for payment for storage
              1. Elena Zakharova
                Elena Zakharova 22 January 2018 22: 04
                +7
                Quote: bulvas
                They will not take

                Hook in tow, and throw opposite the raid of Odessa.
                1. Normal ok
                  Normal ok 23 January 2018 01: 10
                  +5
                  Quote: Elena Zakharova
                  opposite the raid

                  It is written either "on the roadstead of Odessa" or "in the sea opposite Odessa." "Opposite the raid" is actually Odessa itself wassat
                2. faridg7
                  faridg7 23 January 2018 10: 08
                  +2
                  Quote: Elena Zakharova
                  Hook in tow, and throw opposite the raid of Odessa.

                  When this news slipped through, they discussed it in their circle, came to the conclusion that they should be dragged to Odessa and Ochakov, and then left on the fairway with open Kingston or with holes. Wrecks representing a threat to shipping are raised at the expense of the owner of the vessel, and after receiving compensation for the costs of lifting, it is returned to the owner (in case of excess of costs over the value of the vessel, the owner can refuse it in favor of the rescuers, with a difference)
                  Oh, the captains of the ports of Odessa and Nikolaev with Ukrainian admirals will somehow be sorted out when so much iron is put on nails
            2. kirgiz58
              kirgiz58 22 January 2018 23: 11
              +2
              Quote: 210ox
              . But the center and the west and FIG is not needed.

              How it is not needed !! belay We return everything, and then we rent the western regions together with Bandera Poland, Hungary, Romania. We kill three birds with one stone without even shooting: you don’t need to feed and dress Bandera in Kolyma either, there will be money in the budget, and coffin neighbors are grateful to us for land and slaves. laughing laughing laughing
        2. 210ox
          210ox 22 January 2018 20: 53
          +1
          There already Moldovan gypsies drooled in line ..
          Quote: volodya
          Take away! They probably already calculated how much scrap!
      2. vlad66
        vlad66 22 January 2018 19: 03
        22
        Well do not, so do not wink for scrap and perepi themselves wink lim, well, Ukrainians only a joke: A Ukrainian submarine pops up somewhere in the states. Well, the Yankees begin to laugh at them, they say such antediluvian, she even cannot swim normally, and then one of the Americans asks between them:
        - Does she make 5 nodes?
        Hohol:
        - will do
        - And 10?
        - Will do!
        - And 15?
        - If you don’t fly flippers, it will.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 22 January 2018 19: 09
          12
          Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

          Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner? what
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 22 January 2018 19: 20
            +3
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

            Good evening. Then Pasha understand, they are sunbathing at a fine parking lot. For three years, probably already on 3 frigate frigates. They won’t think it over. drinks
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 22 January 2018 19: 39
              +4
              Mutually, Volodya! hi
              Quote: Tusv
              They won’t think it over.

              And there is something to think about? wink
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 22 January 2018 19: 58
                +2
                Quote: bouncyhunter
                And there is something to think about?

                What. The lackeys should crack forelocks. Dumka is forbidden to grow rich. Take a look yourself. Not only that, pay for the parking lot, so a lot of tugboats take out the trough. Nada again to bow to the achressor. As a normal Svidomo it is digested. And then Stockholm ordered to buy a haz and pay for some reason. Brrrr
                Can you imagine what they’ve created there? And you think about something wassat
                1. bouncyhunter
                  bouncyhunter 22 January 2018 20: 02
                  +3
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Can you imagine what they’ve done there

                  To be honest - I have long abandoned all attempts to understand what is happening in Ukraine ...
                  1. Tusv
                    Tusv 22 January 2018 20: 33
                    +2
                    Quote: bouncyhunter
                    To be honest - I have long abandoned all attempts to understand what is happening in Ukraine ...

                    What is there to understand. Solid Russian folk proverbs and sayings. Our language is no longer understood, but have not yet learned how to. In addition, for the normal functioning of the brain, you need a head, fingers, and .. sorry booty. And there FSE what up. It was good, but it got worse. The Americans are already fleeing from them. One not-so-frail American company sent its head office from Kiev to Moscow along with the main staff. Oh my God!. You explain in pure Russian - in response there - I worked in the tax, I know better - Which one? - Ukrainian .... What is the understanding of what is happening, Pasha wassat
          2. vlad66
            vlad66 22 January 2018 19: 25
            +6
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner?

            They think that they will get along with the peninsula, then they themselves are unlikely to swim. Well, the peninsula will either be seen as their ears or they will rot. laughing But seriously, after March 18, they hope that they will come back, repent and also pay. drinks hi
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 22 January 2018 19: 41
              +2
              Quote: vlad66
              they hope that they will return, repent, and also pay.

              And they can’t write out a bolt from the wheel of BelAZ? Dreamers, panimayesh ...
          3. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 22 January 2018 19: 42
            +4
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea
            Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner? what
            Hello Pasha. In the process, they realized that if they give consent, they will be embarrassed before the world with the earlier statements that they are at war with Russia, which is absolutely “bereavement” giving their stuff. On the other hand, dill was in vain anyway, because there were no topics for whining on the world stage because Russia was aggressively expropriating this rubbish from urkaine. Where not to throw, everywhere zrada.
            1. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 22 January 2018 19: 49
              +3
              Hi Dima! hi
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              Where not to throw, everywhere zrada.

              They arrived, they were sickly: around a zrada on a zrada and a zrada drives. To what have sunk, there are no decent words for a long time ... fool
          4. Vkd dvk
            Vkd dvk 22 January 2018 21: 30
            +1
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

            Something here is not clean: the skakuas and suddenly abandoned theirs. The order of the owner? what

            Very simple. If the iron remains with us, then, without inspection of its condition, it will sink. And then ukrozopy will demand loot. If they take it, then the iron will drown anyway. But, then, the loot will not be with anyone.
      3. mig29mks
        mig29mks 22 January 2018 19: 03
        +1
        They want us to repair everything and only then they think to pick up or not)))
      4. dropout
        dropout 22 January 2018 21: 16
        +5
        A submarine in the steppes of Ukraine Killed in an unequal aerial battle, "And a polar bear for no reason sings her mournful song ...
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 22 January 2018 19: 17
      +4
      Quote: Corporal
      The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

      Well, why, we’ll even send T-34 masters from the pedestals to the Donbass .. hehe Main desire and Faith in Victory! And let these wait for their "Javelins" and the Hamers written off .. Let's see who whom ..! soldier
    3. svp67
      svp67 22 January 2018 19: 24
      +4
      Quote: Corporal
      We’ll sell it for scrap.

    4. Dedall
      Dedall 22 January 2018 19: 40
      +4
      Dear forum users, maybe we’ll send everything to museums. And then in the USA there are about 120 pieces of state aviation museums only, and we have one and only one in Monino. But it’s very difficult to get there. And besides, the flying equipment standing in the open air makes a very depressing impression. Aluminum also rusts, turning into a white powder. Another ten years - and everything will crumble.
      1. Grits
        Grits 23 January 2018 05: 23
        +2
        In vain you are so about these boats. Not everyone there is completely worthless. There are those that can still serve with minimal repairs. Or do we have enough tugs? Or maybe our defense industry ships rivets like hot cakes? Something too much, we consider ourselves rich, that we are ready to drown the ships, which can either be repaired or disassembled into organs. Yes, in extreme cases, I think that any commercial structure will not give up a bunch of free scrap metal. And cunning guys from equipment containing gold.
    5. 73bor
      73bor 22 January 2018 19: 43
      +3
      I suggest just towing the ships into the sea and drown in front of the hohlopogranichnikov!
      1. AVGUST
        AVGUST 23 January 2018 08: 29
        0
        Well, hurt yourself, not only are you going to pump up on a large scale at sea, secondly, you will pay for the fuel so that you can drag it all out to sea and transport it to the adjacent side, and even not let anyone make money on it, well, right in our (Russian) in the spirit ......... don’t be a dog in the manger already .......... (I wouldn’t refuse to pick it up, I could have drunk myself a new car) + I’ve completed the garage and bought an apartment
    6. Gray brother
      Gray brother 22 January 2018 19: 46
      0
      Quote: Corporal
      The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

      I bet the bubble that in this case, Ukrainians will begin to whine for compensation))
      It is better to flood in the middle of the Black Sea - let them take it from there, since the Svidomo faith does not allow them to take it from Russia))
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 January 2018 20: 32
        +3
        You can’t drown, have mercy !!!
        You sho, the green peck and will be very right ... we need it!
        Sell ​​for one symbolically rupe to the natives on needles !!! Get rid of this heme. with recycling ... believe me, in your scrap metal in bulk, you would have to get rid of it without unnecessary costs !!!!
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 23 January 2018 00: 16
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          You sho, green peep

          They don’t peck, before flooding the ships peel off to the bare hull, then all sorts of marine organisms settle on it - it’s a complete use.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 January 2018 09: 31
            +1
            Such a normal cleaning of money costs a lot !!! Better to give to the natives ... the truth is they are not in the Black Sea yet, but dill strive for this, can we wait?
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 23 January 2018 09: 35
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              Such a normal cleaning of money costs a lot !!!

              This means the dismantling of everything that is unscrewed and comes off - right up to the wiring and drain of all liquids. Knowing the navy - stopudovo there half of such work has already been completed)))
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 23 January 2018 11: 57
                +1
                Not naval, I can’t know. For the disposal of any harmful muck strongly in the know, EXPENSIVE !!!
                1. Gray brother
                  Gray brother 23 January 2018 12: 00
                  0
                  Quote: rocket757
                  For the disposal of any harmful muck strongly in the know, EXPENSIVE !!!

                  They will even pay extra for oil, but the solariums are no longer there.
    7. Piramidon
      Piramidon 22 January 2018 22: 01
      +1
      Quote: Corporal
      The trouble is, we’ll sell it ourselves for scrap.

      Why mess with balbes? They will immediately demand money. Tow these troughs and flood on the Odessa traverse in neutral waters.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 22 January 2018 22: 17
        +2
        Shaw for the idea, you can’t drown, heme ... then the smut will not be small.
        To sell, and to transfer the symbolic money to the piglet ... to arrange everything through foreign companies !!! then let them dill butt.
        1. Gray brother
          Gray brother 23 January 2018 00: 18
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Shaw for the idea, you can’t drown,

          Otherwise, they themselves will lie down on the shore because of a poor technical condition.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 23 January 2018 09: 35
            +1
            Zalyagut, that's right! Maintain this junk afloat, identity costs money, the further, the more!
            It’s especially impossible to pull. but ill-conceived actions do not need to be done.
            Problem. Let's see how they decide.
  2. Black_Vatnik
    Black_Vatnik 22 January 2018 18: 57
    +1
    Litter with rusty iron, but do not want to clean!
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 January 2018 18: 59
      +3
      and how many screams were about the "weaning" of the Russian Federation a miracle of technology for trillions of pounds
      1. Angel_and_Demon
        Angel_and_Demon 22 January 2018 19: 01
        +5
        Quote: c-Petrov
        and how many screams were about the "weaning" of the Russian Federation a miracle of technology for trillions of pounds

        give to the Chinese needles
        1. St Petrov
          St Petrov 22 January 2018 19: 02
          +1
          so the Chinese will have to pay for disposal. Petro does not throw money. He is a businessman.

          Here's to yourself to pay from the budget for something - from ce garno
          1. Angel_and_Demon
            Angel_and_Demon 22 January 2018 19: 03
            +6
            the Chinese are gambling and will not choke
            1. Gray brother
              Gray brother 22 January 2018 19: 48
              +2
              Quote: Angel_and_Demon
              the Chinese are gambling and will not choke

              In the Black Sea region, the Turks are now in charge of scrap metal.
              1. Angel_and_Demon
                Angel_and_Demon 22 January 2018 19: 53
                +5
                Do you think the showdown will begin?
                1. cniza
                  cniza 22 January 2018 21: 03
                  +3
                  Disassembly is not disassembly, but it will be straining.
  3. Utlan
    Utlan 22 January 2018 18: 58
    0
    They don’t want to ... that means they won’t get anything at all. Cut everything into scrap metal.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 22 January 2018 20: 33
      0
      )) Well, why are you so tough. )) Although there is a reason, it is easier to store in the form of discs. And then the staff to keep track of the place. And so what difference does it make to them in what form they will receive their scrap metal. )) Yes, and in general you can not store and put into business. )) Then from the current consumables to give, if about decency.
  4. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 22 January 2018 18: 58
    +1
    Called. Relocated? Do not . Decency respected. You can safely decide what to do with this technique.
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 January 2018 19: 00
      +4
      You can safely decide what to do with this technique.


      one ensign decides everything faster than the whole Ukrainian state wassat
  5. Baloo
    Baloo 22 January 2018 19: 00
    +6
    Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman made it clear that Kiev is not ready to agree to the return of Ukrainian military equipment from Crimea in the form that Moscow offers, TASS reports.


    An honor would be offered. All junk in scrap for environmental safety reasons. What can be used (boats, rafts, etc.) to sell at an auction, through which the disposal. Something will have to be cut in place, and something will be rammed with a bulldozer and re-melted. And let katstryulki jump further.
    1. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 22 January 2018 19: 05
      +2
      Quote: Balu
      All junk in scrap for environmental safety reasons.
      Not in a businesslike way! Something on the West. parts. something can be repaired. BDK for example! With a clear conscience to use. They don’t need to!
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 January 2018 19: 23
        +2
        Quote: 30 vis
        Not in a businesslike way!

        The power in Kiev is temporary and they understand this very well .. Why should they do this, take it out to restore? The United States will deliver weapons to them, they hope for it .. The slaughter will be arranged and dumped in Canada, etc ...
        1. Xnumx vis
          Xnumx vis 22 January 2018 22: 43
          +1
          "You all perfectly understand the Russian trick. There is a key convention of the rules of war of 1907, the so-called Hague Convention. It says that weapons return after peace. The trick is to show that there is some kind of attitude towards the occupied Crimea dialogue, "said Klimkin. Yes, well, them to Edren hair dryer! In a word, you understood where, I sent a Bandera certificate!
  6. Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 22 January 2018 19: 02
    +2
    "We [with Russia] have no dialogue on issues regarding the status of Crimea, and we will not do any things that could weaken our legal or political position."
    This part of the article seemed to me the main one.
    1. Anton Boldakov
      Anton Boldakov 22 January 2018 19: 12
      0
      Me too. Russia wants to set up a relatively normal dialogue with Ukraine as a “friendly gesture,” and proposed to return military equipment in order to begin at least some adequate dialogue.
  7. senima56
    senima56 22 January 2018 19: 03
    +2
    Ukrainians contrived so that it seems that they themselves have already caught in the ass!
  8. Nord2015
    Nord2015 22 January 2018 19: 13
    +1
    We must invoice for the storage of another's property.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 22 January 2018 22: 24
      0
      Quote: Nord2015
      We must invoice for the storage of another's property.

      You can set it, but getting something from them is a big problem.
  9. 320423
    320423 22 January 2018 19: 17
    +2
    Set an invoice for storage and disposal, as well as a fine for harming the unique nature of Crimea. Plus greenpeace to incite! Threat
  10. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 22 January 2018 19: 18
    +1
    An honor would be offered ...
  11. Fedorov
    Fedorov 22 January 2018 19: 21
    +3
    Vobla Ukraine will have to spend a lot. A bunch of tugboats to pull junk, non-flying tractor trucks (there are a shaft of dead planes) to pull a part, something will have to be cut in place, but this is not cheap at all. Plus combustibles many hundreds of tons. And while they finish, something may drown. And then also cut ... Warehousing, forwarding for re-melting, spending again, protecting - pay people salaries ... And the gain in the metal bay will come out with a gulkin nose.
    In short - figs they will pick up in any case.
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 22 January 2018 19: 22
    +4
    A mistake was initially made in this matter. Essentially, it was not necessary to ask the country, it was necessary to indicate the date of utilization of this equipment, before this date the equipment can be taken from the "storage warehouse". Only transport services are negotiated!
    And now Putin himself has driven the situation into a dead end.
    1. tasha
      tasha 23 January 2018 05: 56
      0
      It was required to name the date of disposal of this equipment

      You are right, but it’s never too late to do this (give a date). So about the dead end, you hurried, it seems to me.
  13. Herculesic
    Herculesic 22 January 2018 19: 22
    +1
    Sell ​​to China - maybe they will do something sensible of them, with a local flavor!
  14. svp67
    svp67 22 January 2018 19: 22
    +1
    Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea
    How? What is this scrap metal and they do not need? Well, I don’t know, maybe we’ll send to Syria ...
    1. igor67
      igor67 22 January 2018 19: 34
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea
      How? What is this scrap metal and they do not need? Well, I don’t know, maybe we’ll send to Syria ...

      as if written in an article. that no official proposal was received from Russia. only Putin said that there is such an opportunity to convey
      1. svp67
        svp67 22 January 2018 19: 37
        +2
        Quote: igor67
        that no official proposal was received from Russia. only Putin said that there is such an opportunity to convey

        Then HOW can I reject what has not been reported? If they needed it, then the representative of Ukraine, the same Klimkin, would say that Ukraine is INTERESTED in this proposal, and then it’s up to the diplomats and the military. And here the offer is rejected. It's okay, anyway for us
        1. igor67
          igor67 22 January 2018 19: 42
          0
          Quote: svp67
          Quote: igor67
          that no official proposal was received from Russia. only Putin said that there is such an opportunity to convey

          Then HOW can I reject what has not been reported? If they needed it, then the representative of Ukraine, the same Klimkin, would say that Ukraine is INTERESTED in this proposal, and then it’s up to the diplomats and the military. And here the offer is rejected. It's okay, anyway for us

          reporters asked a question to Klimkin, he answered, and immediately rejected the headlines Ukraine
          1. svp67
            svp67 22 January 2018 19: 54
            +2
            Quote: igor67
            reporters asked a question to Klimkin, he answered, and immediately rejected the headlines Ukraine

            He is the OFFICER of the highest echelon. And I think that he had already discussed this issue with Poroshenko in advance. And journalists, very often ask the NECESSARY questions ....
  15. Rurikovich
    Rurikovich 22 January 2018 19: 49
    +3
    It is necessary to smear with fat ... They will come at night for the smell and quietly draw to themselves what
  16. Lexus
    Lexus 22 January 2018 19: 50
    +2
    Ukraine rejected the proposal of Russia to return equipment from the Crimea

    In Odessa, the “fleet” that exists, namely 1,5 ships and 2/3 of the barge, has nowhere to park.

    Naval Forces Transition from Crimea to Odessa
    1. Antares
      Antares 22 January 2018 20: 14
      0
      Quote: lexus
      In Odessa, the “fleet” that exists, namely 1,5 ships and 2/3 of the barge, has nowhere to park.

      enough for the entire NMP. And then the flotilla.
      There was no official offer. What is there, there were answers to requests from journalists. They replied that the possibility exists, but here that the opportunity is rejected. laughing
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 22 January 2018 21: 09
        +2
        enough for the entire NMP. And then the flotilla.

        Then why are they forced to "huddle" at a coal terminal? But because
        In 1960, the Odessa Naval Base was disbanded

        Since then, there have been only some reserve units of the Black Sea Fleet and the border patrol boat division Border Guards.
        There was an article on this topic on the resource
        https://topwar.ru/41357-ukrainskiy-flot-vynuzhden
        -iskat-novoe-mesto-dislokacii.html
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 22 January 2018 20: 23
      +1
      Sorry Lexus, but these are not Ukrainian warlords, they are too exhausted. Where did you see that the Ukrainians worked so hard?
      1. Lexus
        Lexus 22 January 2018 21: 10
        +1
        Everything has its time. They thought that they would meet them in the geyrope "with haircuts".
  17. bald
    bald 22 January 2018 19: 53
    +2
    I propose to land the ground equipment and transfer it to the owners --- DLNR !!! All in fairness, so that later they do not screech (Kiev), they say, they calmed down.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 22 January 2018 20: 25
      +4
      Quote: bald
      I propose to land the ground equipment and transfer it to the owners --- DLNR !!! All in fairness, so that later they do not screech (Kiev), they say, they calmed down.

      Or a combat ready, easily repaired present to the Syrians
      1. bald
        bald 23 January 2018 01: 35
        0
        Good too. And in the Crimea, cleaner, and technology will be busy.
      2. Grits
        Grits 23 January 2018 05: 33
        0
        I agree with you. And in Syria and the Donbass, this equipment will be taken away with a bang. And there are enough specialists there. And from junk can create a fully operational unit.
  18. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 22 January 2018 20: 03
    0
    That choke! Scrap metal on oh!
  19. Vincent
    Vincent 22 January 2018 20: 13
    0
    Tse zrada, anyway paramog?
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  21. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 22 January 2018 20: 19
    +1
    Ukraine's "mighty fleet" does not need handouts! In Ukraine, the most modern and powerful Navy in Europe, which only costs the submarine "Zaporozhye" (in the steppes of Ukraine) !!!
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 22 January 2018 20: 26
      +2
      They don’t even have enough rafts for all admirals, but they refused such a mate, DB.
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Ukraine's "mighty fleet" does not need handouts! In Ukraine, the most modern and powerful Navy in Europe, which only costs the submarine "Zaporozhye" (in the steppes of Ukraine) !!!
  22. MOSKVITYANIN
    MOSKVITYANIN 22 January 2018 20: 30
    0
    You can transfer the DNI, but no one has yet recognized the Russian Federation, so it was transferred to Ukraine ...
  23. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 22 January 2018 20: 30
    0
    It is necessary to demand money from them for disposal then.
  24. K-50
    K-50 22 January 2018 20: 34
    +1
    Send everything for re-melting with the wording “Abandoned no man's property”. yes
  25. taiga2018
    taiga2018 22 January 2018 20: 37
    +2
    Ukraine is a generous soul ... then a whole lard of dollars will be rolled off for "management", and now they don’t need military equipment ...
  26. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 22 January 2018 20: 42
    0
    Later, Prime Minister Volodymyr Groysman made it clear that Kiev was not ready to agree to the return of Ukrainian military equipment from Crimea in the form that Moscow offers

    Yeah, do they propose that Russia repair all the scrap metal at its own expense and donate it to the ukronazists for the ATO in the Donbass ?! Well, very cunning. laughing
  27. razved
    razved 22 January 2018 20: 43
    0
    They don’t want to return their equipment, so it’s for disposal.
  28. Ratmir_Ryazan
    Ratmir_Ryazan 22 January 2018 20: 56
    +1
    Putin spread the Kiev junta as schoolchildren))) How will they now make a complaint if they were offered to pick up their ships, but they did not ?! )))
  29. Nemesis
    Nemesis 22 January 2018 21: 28
    0
    It is time for Putin to resign if he is going to give at least one rusty machine gun to Bandera, because these weapons will definitely be used for the genocide of the Russian people and against Russia!
    1. MOSKVITYANIN
      MOSKVITYANIN 22 January 2018 21: 44
      +1
      Nemesis
      Putin must resign

      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 22 January 2018 21: 46
        +1
        For God's sake. I do not consider the parishioners of the drunkard center to be Russian patriots, and that says ALL.
    2. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 22 January 2018 21: 46
      +5
      Quote: Nemesis
      one rusty machine, because this weapon will definitely be used for the genocide of the Russian people ...

      ... as makuya ... makuhu ... makuy ... pah !!
      Well, you understand me, probably ... Goddess laughing
      1. Nemesis
        Nemesis 22 January 2018 21: 49
        0
        I think that - We have long understood each other and we are not on the way. For me, Judas Gorbachev and Adolfush Yeltsin are enemies of Russia and the Russian people and I don’t like people who erect monuments (to the Boriski who were in the kingdom) and who ditched more Russians with Chubais than Hitler ...
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 22 January 2018 21: 51
          +6
          Quote: Nemesis
          For me, Judas Gorbachev and Adolfush Yeltsin are enemies of Russia and the Russian people and I don’t like people who erect monuments (to the Boriski who were in the kingdom) and who ditched more Russians with Chubais than Hitler ...

          This, campaign, "as advertisements."
          Because it has nothing to do with what I told you.
          Nemesis, you are lovely ... goddess love
      2. kirgiz58
        kirgiz58 22 January 2018 23: 20
        +1
        Quote: Golovan Jack
        as a makua ..

        This is what heittle? smile
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 23 January 2018 09: 40
          +3
          Quote: kirgiz58
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          as a makua ..

          This is what heittle? smile

          Exactly.
          Quote: Nemesis
          one rusty machine ...

          ... as a makua ... - quite.
          Quote: Nemesis
          ... for the genocide of the Russian people ...

          ... but this - IMHO is very unlikely request
  30. lopvlad
    lopvlad 22 January 2018 22: 03
    +3
    Kiev will not pick up its military equipment from the Crimea


    Naturally, when from every watermelon and Bandera cron for almost 4 years it barked that the Muscovites took away the most powerful Ukrainian weapons and powerful Ukrainian fleet, then in front of the whole Svidomo world, dragging rusty stuff is dumb.
    It’s better to continue to bark that Muscovites took everything away, as on sheets in the 90s they wrote that Muscovites ate all Ukrainian lard, bread and drank vodka.
  31. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 22 January 2018 22: 48
    +3
    We'll have to drown ... But what, targets are always needed
  32. Tamek
    Tamek 23 January 2018 00: 12
    0
    It would be better if they offered money for the Crimea
  33. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 January 2018 00: 43
    0
    Foreign Minister of Ukraine Pavel Klimkin made it clear that Kiev will not pick up its military equipment from the Crimea in response to a proposal from Moscow.

    All is correct. They will squeal better - Give the ships!
    And then the USA will throw inflatable boats and immediately FU (will not pull on the Navy) will appear.
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 23 January 2018 03: 38
      +1
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      And then the USA will throw inflatable boats and immediately FU (will not pull on the Navy) will appear

      Not enough for all admirals. Something needs to be done ... belay lol
  34. Berg berg
    Berg berg 23 January 2018 00: 53
    0
    Once refused we will offer as scrap metal to our enterprises or foreign! They won’t take them and send them on their last voyage towards Ukraine and flood in the fairways near Odessa!
  35. nikolaev
    nikolaev 23 January 2018 03: 56
    0
    Excuse me, what about Blinkin, please tell me, if there is a certificate from a psychiatrist, can I apply for a place in his venerable ward? ...
  36. sgr291158
    sgr291158 23 January 2018 06: 08
    0
    Interestingly, Kiev is not ready to accept the technology in the form in which it is. They hint that we should pass it in working order. Looks like they themselves have no money or the mind is not enough to restore it.
  37. raw174
    raw174 23 January 2018 06: 36
    +1
    Well, they would have taken it, now they now have the MARINE CASE, and he has nothing to go on ... and from these boats you can make galleys! Sculpt a month with a cutter, cut off everything superfluous and you can train to storm the Crimean coast)))
  38. krokus792
    krokus792 23 January 2018 09: 43
    0
    Use as targets for testing new weapons systems.
  39. astepanov
    astepanov 23 January 2018 11: 30
    +1
    I was in Sevastopol, saw these "ships". Rusty trash that Russia will have to dispose of sooner or later - otherwise they will sink in the bay. Then everything will be like in Moydodyr: Ukrainians "They will both bark, and howl, and bang their feet."
  40. Vanek
    Vanek 23 January 2018 12: 35
    +1
    It's time for ourselves to cut the metal.

    They stand idle. Place only occupy.
  41. gukoyan
    gukoyan 24 January 2018 08: 22
    0
    Withdraw into neutral waters and abandon, but immediately the Panheads will demand compensation, and so why can’t they be nationalized and turned over to ferrous metal ...