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Nazarbayev told what Trump said in the Donbas

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The details of the negotiations between the presidents of the United States and Kazakhstan come. Recall that the meeting between Donald Trump and Nursultan Nazarbayev took place during the visit of the Kazakhstani leader to the United States amid the scandal about the freezing of multi-billion reserves of RK by the American bank.


During the conversation, not only economic problems were touched on, but also (among other things) foreign policy issues. One of the critical issues is the settlement of the crisis in the Donbas. In an interview with Nazarbayev, Trump proposed to stop using Minsk as a platform for the negotiation process between the parties to the conflict. According to the President of the United States, for these purposes, "you need to find another capital."

RIA Newsreferring to the president of Kazakhstan, reports that, according to Trump, the Minsk process has come to a standstill, and therefore it is necessary to look for a new platform for negotiations. According to Trump’s logic, where exactly such a site should be located, Nazarbayev does not report.

Nazarbayev told what Trump said in the Donbas


At the same time, Nazarbayev himself stated that "initially the settlement process was to be held in Kazakhstan."

Nazarbayev:
I made trips to gather everyone to meet there. So we agreed that we will work in this direction.


As you can see, Nazarbayev himself supports the idea of ​​“bury” the Minsk process.

The head of the Kazakhstani state added that he is in favor of bringing peacekeepers into the conflict zone "in order to define borders and increase the level of mutual understanding."
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  1. katalonec2014
    katalonec2014 19 January 2018 06: 32
    17
    He takes on a lot.
    1. Finches
      Finches 19 January 2018 06: 39
      40
      The Minsk process was originally more dead than alive! Because the United States made a wronged e ... face, such as the navel of the earth, did not call out and in every possible way spoiled a peaceful settlement, instructing his little dog Poroshenko not to do anything that he, wagging his tail joyfully, did!
      1. Logall
        Logall 19 January 2018 06: 44
        +8
        At the same time and to the Astana format in Syria to smear!
        1. Alex777
          Alex777 19 January 2018 10: 11
          +8
          Almost anyone with 40% of the national treasure ($ 20) America will freeze will sniff to freeze. Nazarbayev is no exception. hi
          1. lukewarm
            lukewarm 19 January 2018 11: 55
            +3
            wink Interestingly, how much money does the Russian Federation have in the banks of the "partners"? I ask without irony and sarcasm
            1. Urs
              Urs 19 January 2018 20: 56
              +1
              Yes, this is not a secret, about 27-30 percent of the fund’s resources, this is the IMF’s demand as a guarantee of loan repayment
          2. Black Colonel
            Black Colonel 28 January 2018 09: 51
            0
            Why not squirm? Grandmas need to be taken away - Chavez in this regard is a hammer, cashed all Venezuelan deposits and brought them to the country.
        2. avt
          avt 19 January 2018 10: 11
          +8
          Quote: Logall
          At the same time and to the Astana format in Syria to smear!

          bully With Precision to the contrary! NAS repented. And bends on all ..... vectors! bully On the
          referring to the president of Kazakhstan, he reports that, according to Trump, the Minsk process has reached an impasse, and therefore it is necessary to look for a new platform for negotiations. Nazarbayev does not report where exactly, according to Trump's logic, such a platform should be located.
          Right here
          At the same time, Nazarbayev himself stated that "initially the settlement process was to be held in Kazakhstan."
          Like I'm not like that, the place is like that. And in Syria I supposedly drove everyone away .... to Sochi bully Dengi -22 yards return the last one to the captain. bully Yes-ah-ah-ah ... Liquid for the NAS voice however, well, compared to the same Erdogan, the latter, though tricked ... multi-vector bully But the beep from him will be more publicly then. bully
      2. Smol79
        Smol79 19 January 2018 09: 29
        +1
        the Minsk process is needed so that Belarus is not buried.
        1. BecmepH
          BecmepH 19 January 2018 09: 48
          +7
          Quote: Smol79
          the Minsk process is needed so that Belarus is not buried.

          I don’t understand, but what's the difference WHERE to interpret? It’s important to talk about and the result of this talking room is important.
          1. Smol79
            Smol79 19 January 2018 15: 47
            +2
            Here was a tyrant from the USSR - Lukashenko. All of Europe was poop on him. Now there is the Minsk format, and Lukashenko has become the right president. There is Nazarbayev the president of some kind of Kazakhstan. There is a format of Astana and Nazarbayev goes to Trump and holds a long meeting, resolves issues, but Poroshenko went for only 8 minutes. So the platform for conversation is a place of intersection of interests and who organizes it is gaining influence, as it shows that he is capable of managing.
        2. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 19 January 2018 11: 17
          +4
          Quote: Smol79
          the Minsk process is needed so that Belarus is not buried.

          Well, they don’t want the Minsk format, so it will be the Donetsk format, with a tribunal for the Kuev junta.
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 19 January 2018 06: 58
      23
      Quote: katalonec2014
      He takes on a lot.

      He doesn’t take much, but tries to return the seized funds! And for this I’m ready to carry all kinds of nonsense!
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 19 January 2018 08: 02
        +8
        Given the fact that with all due respect to Kazakhstan, Nazarbayev’s words do not affect almost anything, he can say anything. No responsibility, but the account must be defrosted. In my opinion, taking into account the interests of Kazakhstan, it does the right thing, no matter how anyone likes it.
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 19 January 2018 08: 03
        +3
        Quote: Tol100v
        And for this I’m ready to carry all kinds of nonsense!

        Well, here, too, is not so simple. at the UN, he did not listen to the representative of the striped and left the hall.
    3. zivXP
      zivXP 19 January 2018 10: 31
      +3
      He wants to make Kazakhstan a center of negotiations. Quite a normal desire.
    4. Slovak
      Slovak 19 January 2018 20: 39
      0
      Tomorrow Mozambique and Papua New Guinea decide to move these negotiations to South Africa?
  2. Spartanez300
    Spartanez300 19 January 2018 06: 32
    24
    Another aged licking sought, and judging by his joyful appearance, I liked to see.
    1. Lexus
      Lexus 19 January 2018 18: 01
      +2
      Another aged licking sought, and judging by his joyful appearance, I liked to see.

      The role of the “Phashington speaker” of the elbasy is clearly not going. Was it worth it, in the "ku" pose, to settle down on old age, when it was high time to think "about the eternal"?
  3. Dezinto
    Dezinto 19 January 2018 06: 33
    +5
    Sneaked up not noticeably.

    Bang and suddenly in Kazakhstan, the whole president of the United States!

    a fig! recourse
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 19 January 2018 06: 51
      12
      You cho !!! The leaders of two world powers met, resolved Peace issues and other problems!
      There was no question about freezing money - it wasn’t before that!
      1. Smol79
        Smol79 19 January 2018 09: 32
        +3
        money love silence and talked about them, and voiced peace issues and other problems
      2. Piramidon
        Piramidon 19 January 2018 12: 17
        +1
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        There was no question about freezing money - it wasn’t before that!

        Do you know for sure? NAS said what it considered proper, and what was discussed in the "smoking rooms" is not everyone needs to know.
    2. gavrila2984
      gavrila2984 19 January 2018 08: 29
      +1
      Loose came. We have to make a “goat’s face”, play old Nazarbayev’s ChSV. So let's see how the neighbor will hold on; will lead - then everything will end soon.
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 19 January 2018 10: 59
        +4
        Have you heard that RK has become a space power ?? !! With trump about space programs made a whisper! Khan Baikonuru!
    3. Piramidon
      Piramidon 19 January 2018 12: 21
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      Bang and suddenly in Kazakhstan, the whole president of the United States!

      Not "suddenly", but pre-freezing accounts
  4. Knowing
    Knowing 19 January 2018 06: 43
    +6
    Oh, and in North Korea in Kazakhstan, negotiations need to be conducted, and in the Donbass ... Glory to the eggs that they did not dare to voice across Crimea ... recourse although this question was raised. IMHO. Straight to Napoleon (decides the fate of the World laughing ), and not the president of Kazakhstan, - he seized upon a puddle and began to get out ...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 19 January 2018 08: 06
      +2
      Quote: Knowing
      It’s straight in the air (he makes the fate of the world laughing), and not the president of Kazakhstan, - he seized upon a puddle and began to get out ...

      And 22 billion green ones hung.
      1. pap
        pap 19 January 2018 10: 34
        +1
        they didn’t hang. They defrosted them already on 11.01
        1. Orionvit
          Orionvit 19 January 2018 13: 34
          +1
          Quote: pap
          they didn’t hang. They defrosted them already on 11.01

          Did you defrost? lol
    2. JonnyT
      JonnyT 19 January 2018 09: 03
      0
      C'mon that you. Two men of retirement age talked about politics over a stack of tea.
      Young war, and old only talk
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 19 January 2018 09: 50
        +2
        The USA is excited about the PRC initiatives to conquer European markets.
        “One Belt and One Way” - put forward in the 2010s. The People’s Republic of China proposes joint projects for the Silk Road Economic Belt and the XNUMXst Century Sea Silk Road.
        The proposal was first put forward by Chinese President Xi Jinping during visits to Central Asian countries and Indonesia in the fall of 2013 and Kazakhstan's large role in it ..
        Naturally, the United States will interfere with this in every way. For this, Trump is trying to tear Kazakhstan from both the PRC and Russia.
        How to be friends with the USA is already a lot of examples. ... As a result, the "friends of the USA" are in big trouble .. but at the same time for their own money .. Will there be a "Kazakh spring -18" ???
    3. Lelek
      Lelek 19 January 2018 09: 43
      +2
      Quote: Knowing
      Oh, and negotiations on the DPRK in Kazakhstan need to be held, and on the Donbass.

      hi
      Well, the negotiations on the Donbass in Astana are the fantasies of our "strategists" in the military. This of course will not happen. Trump's Wishlist to replace Minsk-2 with a different format and in the “other capital” is also just a desire to formally join the processes in / in the former Ukraine and permanently and irrevocably erase the Minsk agreements, indicating their primacy in decision-making. Germany and France are likely to bend under the United States in this matter, but Russia in this case (IMHO) will leave this format. The law on Donbass passed by the Verkhovna Rada adopted yesterday by Kiev takes over the Minsk agreements and unilaterally unties Valtsman’s hands to start a full-scale war in the southeast.

      In this situation, the Russian Federation must take a radical decision to protect the population of the LPR and the DPR. Moreover, it (the population) and the leadership of the republics are ready to leave under the umbrella of Russia, as Pavel Gubarev informs.
  5. askort154
    askort154 19 January 2018 06: 44
    +1
    Now Trump has no problems with hemorrhoids.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 January 2018 06: 52
    14
    When you were taken "for Faberge", seizing reserves and threatening to bring down the currency of your country, you will agree to ALL. Nazarbayev is slowly falling into insanity, now with the Latin alphabet, then with his own type of ambitions - Astana is the capital of the world ...
    America cannot accept defeat in Syria and Ukraine (Crimea has left, and the base in Sevastopol too) ... Trump is not going to feed Ukraine, but torpedo the Minsk agreements with the help of the Donbass reintegration law and throw the APU into a meat grinder. Time to spring thaw is two months, the winter is warm. Hurry ...
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 19 January 2018 08: 08
      +7
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Two months left to spring thaw

      In the Donbass there is no such thing as spring thaw. In the local climate, even if snow has melted, the earth dries out in three days.
    2. captain
      captain 19 January 2018 09: 59
      +1
      In Ukraine, our leadership made a strategic miscalculation. When our "vacationers" and the militia drove the APU, it was necessary to take Melitopol (not Mariupol, but Melitopol). 5-6 regions would fall away from Ukraine. And it was quite possible to organize Novorossia on that territory. And they would save money from today's hemorrhoids. The Kremlin mouthpiece Markov recognized this in one of the programs.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 19 January 2018 12: 14
        +1
        Quote: captain
        In Ukraine, our leadership made a strategic miscalculation.

        oh how laughing Well, of course, from the sofa it is more visible where to step laughing
        rzhunemagu, couch general staff in half with the Foreign Ministry laughing
  7. Naputeon bonaput
    Naputeon bonaput 19 January 2018 06: 53
    16
    Strange allies in Russia. Each with its own agenda, dissenting opinion, separate opinion, etc. Allies before the first shot.
    1. Knowing
      Knowing 19 January 2018 07: 46
      +6
      It’s been known for a long time that Russia has two allies: the Army and Navy, the rest are partners in the interests ...
      1. captain
        captain 19 January 2018 10: 03
        +1
        “In the whole world we have only 2 loyal ally,” Alexander liked to say to his ministers: “our army and navy. Everyone else, at the earliest opportunity, will gang themselves up against us” I will add the phrase of a great man; VKS and Strategic Missile Forces.
      2. pap
        pap 19 January 2018 10: 36
        +2
        Well, you yourself have achieved this
    2. maiman61
      maiman61 19 January 2018 07: 56
      +4
      And we do not have allies. List the allies who fought with us in Syria! And in Afghanistan under the USSR? Only with outstretched hand and snot they sweep for free to steal from Russia.
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 19 January 2018 08: 06
      +1
      Quote: Naputeon Bonaput
      Strange allies in Russia.

      belay propose changing to others? they seem to be historically like neighbors. others are far away. and with neighbors hosh not hosh live next
    4. askort154
      askort154 19 January 2018 08: 22
      +2
      Naputeon Bonaput .....Allies before the first shot.[i] [/ i]

      All "allies" are countries that are not able to defend themselves. So they rush between the strong, trading their devotion.
      1. Naputeon bonaput
        Naputeon bonaput 19 January 2018 09: 08
        +1
        How can one trade devotion? Maybe they are trading with something else, huh?
        1. Chichikov
          Chichikov 19 January 2018 10: 45
          +1
          That is the very place and trade!
    5. Urs
      Urs 19 January 2018 22: 54
      0
      And therefore, Russia should have and have only two allies ARMY AND Navy + VKS ha already three.
      The rest are so well partners like at night yes
  8. nemec55
    nemec55 19 January 2018 06: 57
    +7
    Kazakhs you probably do not understand that your elbasy will drive you to Ukraine-2
    The whole set for the (approximately) green revolution is on the face
    1. Azim77
      Azim77 19 January 2018 07: 12
      +7
      On the contrary, Nazarbayev understands from whom the danger emanates and is trying to level it. Each has its own protection - someone has armor and a nuclear club, someone only has a mind and a properly suspended language. It so happened that not all countries are equal in strength and weight.
      Each head of state must protect first of all the interests of his side. In this sense, Nazarbayev is very smart and diplomatic. Eastern cunning. It also knows how to negotiate with the enemy and friends in negotiations. Nursultan Abishevich is already old, soon a change of power. And therefore, he makes moves in advance so that during this dangerous transitional time there is no threat from the “rabid wolf”. And if necessary, the next young chapter will wave his saber.
      1. Moskovit
        Moskovit 19 January 2018 07: 22
        16
        As practice shows, licking an American or European butt is not a guarantee of salvation from democratization.
        Only a nuclear bomb, Eun will confirm!
      2. nemec55
        nemec55 19 January 2018 08: 44
        +2
        On the contrary, Nazarbayev understands from whom the danger emanates and is trying to level it. Each has its own protection - someone has armor and a nuclear club, someone only has a mind and a properly suspended language. It so happened that not all countries are equal in strength and weight.

        The vileness of the abomination and heartlessness of the American elite has no limits. And believe the evil can be defeated only by evil. While Elbasy plays the ruler of the world, the Americans are developing a network of dissatisfied opposition, and only the time will come first they will throw a match into the region of subgeneric disagreements. North hates south. Hates north. the arson of which will be a big BABAH
        I live on the border with Kazakhstan, of course, if, of course, lawlessness starts on the other side of the border, despite the fact that in our country the top batch will change, it can be big
      3. DenZ
        DenZ 19 January 2018 09: 06
        +1
        Quote: Azim77
        someone has armor and a nuclear club, someone only has a mind and a properly suspended language

        If you are talking about the language of Nazarbayev and his mind, what he says and offers will just drive Kazakhstan into Ukraine-2. Not the same Nazarbayev. By age, something his megalomania tormented not childishly.
  9. tchoni
    tchoni 19 January 2018 07: 01
    +6
    And I think, what is it that Kazakhs suffered in "non-brothers"? It turns out they were bablishly reprimanded))) Freedom? Do not store money in savings dollars in the USA !!! (and a sideways glance towards the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank)
    1. Smog
      Smog 19 January 2018 08: 00
      +2
      Quote: tchoni
      (and a sideways glance towards the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank)

      And they immediately took your sidelong glance and got scared. Very very.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 19 January 2018 08: 17
      +4
      Quote: tchoni
      Do not store money in savings dollars in the USA !!

      And where else can you store green? by definition, all foreign exchange assets are held in correspondent accounts of banks of countries issuing foreign currency. In this case, all the dollars, wherever you store them, are still in the accounts of American banks. If someone else has not understood, then dollars are someone else's money that has their own owner, and if you have it, then this still does not prove that they are yours, you simply gave them the opportunity to use them. Or they may not. In the case of Kazakhstan, Nazarbayev was clearly made clear whose money it was. It turned out, not Kazakhstan. Who is next in line? How much is Russia buried in American assets? Billion 400-500?
    3. JonnyT
      JonnyT 19 January 2018 09: 12
      +2
      What are the brothers that you carry. Kazakhstan is an independent state, which is much weaker and more vulnerable than the Russian Federation !!! Who can Kazakhstan count on? on the Russian Federation what about ???? The current Russian Federation has already shown how it “does not abandon its own people” to Ukraine.
      It’s better to try to blow fog, or as they say "lick the ass" than to expose your country to the blow of the Islamists, color revolutions and civil war.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 19 January 2018 09: 23
        +3
        Quote: JonnyT
        The current Russian Federation has already shown how it “does not abandon its own people” to Ukraine.

        and who did she leave there?
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      2. Krymgireevsky
        Krymgireevsky 19 January 2018 12: 26
        +2
        As the experience of Yanukovych shows: it is possible to erase the language before corns, but this will not save either from the Islamists or from the revolution. For work, he was associated with Kazakhstan for several months. Conclusion from observations: the Republic of Kazakhstan is drifting increasingly rapidly toward the Ukrainian scenario. For several years there has been a quiet, systematic squeezing of Russians from the north, a change of alphabet, etc. But apparently, the speed of transformation into "non-brothers" does not suit the leaders of the "whole world", and that’s being crushed.
  10. Herculesic
    Herculesic 19 January 2018 07: 11
    +1
    Then it’s better than Vorkuta! So that some people could “familiarize themselves” with the conditions where he will have to cut down the forest!
  11. Observer2014
    Observer2014 19 January 2018 07: 11
    +4
    Does Nazarbayev still speak and understand? And we still have a monarchy, some want to return fool Imagine what happens with current medicine. Up to 100 years in intensive care ruler under droppers laughing Dream environment.
  12. Alexander War
    Alexander War 19 January 2018 07: 21
    +6
    In general, after Libya, it is clear to all sane that money must be kept in their own country! Minsk agreements were initially dead! At us, the Central Bank is not sane, it is 100 percent!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 19 January 2018 07: 37
      +2
      Quote: Alexander War
      In general, after Libya, all sane people understand that money must be kept in their own country!

      the central bank does not know ...
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 19 January 2018 07: 42
        +3
        According to Nabiullina, in general, 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, 159 articles cry!
      2. TRP
        TRP 19 January 2018 11: 36
        +1
        The Central Bank of the Russian Federation is a branch of the Federal Reserve, according to the Constitution of the Russian Federation and the Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation. They are very aware.
    2. LSA57
      LSA57 19 January 2018 08: 13
      +2
      Quote: Alexander War
      Our Central Bank is not sane this is 100 percent!

      how tired of this cleverness. well, is it really all polls the country's leadership, headed by GDP, is so stupid that they placed money abroad without any guarantees for the country ?????? Yes, thousands of times have calculated all the risks and guarantees. turn on the MOSH, why year after year they impose sanctions on everything they reach, but they don’t even stutter about this money ???? think highly recommend
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 19 January 2018 08: 17
        +2
        What guarantees? What are you about smile You are an example of Kazakhstan and Libya!
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 19 January 2018 09: 00
          +1
          Quote: Alexander War
          You are an example of Kazakhstan and Libya!

          no other examples were found? you still compare Russia with Burkina Faso.
          Do you know how many Americans do business in Russia? and not just businessmen, but high-ranking officials
      2. DenZ
        DenZ 19 January 2018 09: 14
        +2
        Quote: LSA57
        think highly recommend

        What to think about? Where is the material to draw conclusions? If you have a holy belief that the GDP and others (especially the economic bloc of the government) have calculated everything and got some guarantees there, then this is your personal business. Only about 7% is stored in Russia !!!! foreign exchange reserves! Under the guarantees of "probable friends" The expression - war cancels all agreements "Is it familiar to you? In the case of a large hedgehog, all sorts of guarantees there can only be wiped in the outhouse (if someone has time to get there).
        1. LSA57
          LSA57 19 January 2018 09: 30
          +1
          Quote: DenZ
          What to think about? Where is the material to draw conclusions?

          Do you need to reveal all the secrets of the Ministry of Finance? but nothing that is state secrets?
          In the case of a large heap, all sorts of guarantees there can only be wiped in the toilet (if someone has time to get there).

          In the case of a large sheer, they no longer need anyone. you will need a gold reserve. and he is at our place. unlike the same Germany. once again I advise you to think why the striped do not impose sanctions on our money. Kazakhs shod without any sanctions, ours do not touch
          1. DenZ
            DenZ 19 January 2018 09: 46
            +3
            Quote: LSA57
            once again I advise you to think why the striped do not impose sanctions on our money. Kazakhs shod without any sanctions, ours do not touch

            Well, firstly, as far as I know, Kazakhs are there themselves violated some agreements therefore their money turned out to be frozen.
            Quote: LSA57
            Do you need to reveal all the secrets of the Ministry of Finance? but nothing that is state secrets?

            Without any state secrets, the hedgehog is understandable that if 93% of your foreign exchange reserves are with people with whom you are, to put it mildly, not in very good relations, then you cannot be calm for the money. And what about state secrets? This is all cotton wool in the ears of the general public. It would be better if the money would be returned to Russia (not all of course, it will never be the same anyway) and began to work for our economy, social sphere and so on. But apparently the interest for storing this money over the hill is higher than the need to build new hospitals (a topic familiar to me), schools, factories, and invest in the development of education. That's the whole state secret.
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 19 January 2018 10: 22
              +2
              Quote: DenZ
              Let it be better for the state how this money would return to Russia (not all of course, it will never be the same anyway) and begin to work for our economy,

              you have a home stash for a "rainy day" Reserve), do you put it into circulation? go to the store with them? probably keep in the bank. Now tell us how this reserve will work for the economy with us?
              1. DenZ
                DenZ 19 January 2018 11: 49
                +2
                Quote: LSA57
                you have a home stash on a rainy day Reserve)

                Lies, lies. But precisely at home. lies.
                1. LSA57
                  LSA57 19 January 2018 12: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: DenZ
                  But it lies at home.

                  put in the bank. the percentage will drip. our nest egg is invested in securities and a percentage is dripping on them too. but at home nothing will drip on them
    3. TRP
      TRP 19 January 2018 11: 33
      +1
      We do not have sovereignty for this. Therefore, under international treaties, either 2/3 or 3/4 of our gold reserves are stored in the United States. This is the condition of the winners of the Cold War of 1945-1991.
  13. Alexander War
    Alexander War 19 January 2018 07: 25
    +2
    A bit of economics
    1. TRP
      TRP 19 January 2018 11: 27
      +1
      Nabiulina works in a foreign company under the name of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation and works there according to the rules called the "Law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation."
      So, the Constitution, article 75 .2. Protecting and ensuring the stability of the ruble is the main function of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, which it exercises independently of other government bodies. (The Central Bank is independent of the state power of the Russian Federation)
      We open the law on the Central Bank of the Russian Federation: Article 4. The Bank of Russia performs the following functions: 18.2) is the depositary of the funds of the International Monetary Fund in the currency of the Russian Federation, carries out operations and transactions stipulated by the Articles of the Agreement of the International Monetary Fund and agreements with the International Monetary Fund;
      As we see, the constitutional disobedience of the state power of the Russian Federation is more than compensated by an agreement with the IMF, to which the Central Bank is subordinate. If Nabiullina fails to comply with orders from her superiors, she will be fired and another will be accepted.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 19 January 2018 11: 31
        +7
        Another fresh troll drew ... come on, tell me, but in more detail, how the depository obeys the depositor laughing
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        2. TRP
          TRP 19 January 2018 11: 58
          +2

          I brought the laws, and you are empty words. And which of us is a Troll?))) We won’t point a finger.)) You can continue to protect your native State Department.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 19 January 2018 12: 39
            +7
            Quote: TRP
            I brought the laws

            Once again, for those on an armored car: what is a depository (CBR in this case), and how can it report to a depositor (IMF, in this case)?
            Quote: TRP
            And which of us is Troll?

            You, dear. Just by definition yes
            1. TRP
              TRP 19 January 2018 13: 29
              +3
              A depository is a branch, just like the IMF is a branch of the Fed.
              The State Department will appreciate your efforts. Get cookies from Nuland.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 19 January 2018 14: 16
                +7
                Quote: TRP
                Depository is a branch

                The depository is, dear, a luggage room.
                This depository (CBR) may contain rubles owned by the IMF (if any).
                The IMF has the right to command these rubles.
                And the more he has no right to dispose of anything there.
                Your ignorance is only comparable to your self-confidence negative
            2. TRP
              TRP 19 January 2018 13: 44
              +6
              You still won’t believe me, so I can offer a look.
              1. Sewer krainiy
                Sewer krainiy 19 January 2018 15: 53
                +3
                You still won’t believe me, so I can offer a look.
                Looked convincingly. And Golovan Jack disappeared somewhere, does not argue anymore.
  14. oracul
    oracul 19 January 2018 07: 26
    +4
    Who would doubt that Washington gave the go-ahead to the rejection of the Minsk agreements. Who would doubt it. No wonder the people say: arrogance is the second happiness. We always show this by our actions. People with life experience know that attempts to reason a presumptuous person with politeness are almost always doomed to failure: either by using obscenities (sometimes it calms the speaker, especially when they don’t expect you to do this), or by refusing to from continuing to communicate, or direct opposition in the form of a well-reasoned accusation made publicly and as bluntly as possible, or, finally, a violent confrontation, naturally taking into account possible consequences. In boxing, there is a concept - to enter the clinch (tight contact that binds the opponent’s hands). But this is impossible to do for a long time and this will not lead to victory.
  15. demo
    demo 19 January 2018 07: 35
    +3
    Minsk is not suitable. Berlin and Paris have withdrawn. Moscow is not a party to the conflict. Kiev - disappears. LDNR - not recognized.
    Remains Astana. Nowhere else to go.
    Nursultan decided to light up in Big Politics and write his name in History.
    And then Lukashenko pulled the blanket over himself.
    It's a shame, however.
    And here also the reserve fund of the whole country was frozen.

    However, how significant.
    And we are sitting and waiting.
    What are we waiting for?
    When will they freeze us?
    Db. (S. Lavrov)
  16. sleeve
    sleeve 19 January 2018 07: 37
    +2
    And what? In my normal alignment. The guy in the White House should be helped to scoop up a little in his gadyushnik. Now there will be a "breathtaking victory over Russia" with instant replacement of the negotiating platform. There is no need to react to every meeting of the leaders of the CSTO and the Eurasian Economic Community with the West. We are not Gondor and Mordor after all. In terms of the world currency of Bucks, such a "fuss" is not inevitable. Moreover, again, insanity is not insanity — it is a pitchfork on the water, and everything that has been said in the field of “real politics” we may never know and can only be tracked by the consequences. So economically and (!!!) politically attached neighbors to Russia will not become the “fifth column” a priori — the four remaining are far away. In addition, the model of Ukraine on the face. It’s almost deadly for them to climb over our barricades — none of the “allies” will simply survive the sanctions press and we will receive economic reanimation in the state sizes for any country (the Russians don’t abandon ours). Therefore, let maneuver is their salaries in the end. Abishevich is clearly moving a well-thought-out action. Everything should be extremely simple, right under the brains of our partners: the collapse of Minsk-2, the start of new negotiations (at least Yerevan, at least Malta ...), the elections in Hohland, the smooth "regression" of the Maidan, the general attenuation of the situation and somewhere else for the next election (in terms of the upcoming) constitutional reconciliation with federalization and "brotherly" songs and dances. For this period we are preparing a thread of 10-20 billion green to save Nenko (we are like that) and then after 10 years we will again listen to what we are occupants-thieves-bloodsuckers ... For the Imperials, the usual thing. And about Nazarbayev and the upcoming circular bombardment of the borders (in terms of American diplomatic movements) -Donald will now be able to loudly shut up the mouths of all “oniagents” -mall look, I’m fighting Russia at her borders, not like you are masters to fight at the expense of the economy favorite USA. You look, and before the removal of the anti-Russian segment from their "establishment" we will survive .... Maybe. I would like to believe.
  17. Baloo
    Baloo 19 January 2018 07: 52
    +3
    Nazarbayev himself supports the idea of ​​"burying" the Minsk process.
    The head of the Kazakhstani state added that he is in favor of bringing peacekeepers into the conflict zone "in order to define borders and increase the level of mutual understanding."

    Everything is clear now. So the elder did not beat off the money, apparently still did not work out?
  18. bald
    bald 19 January 2018 08: 33
    +3
    He’s been sipping from him for a long time already - I can’t accept that Russian cities and territories were given to them. There are many relatives living there and all Russians. And Trump slams him - like (women excuse me) the last woman.
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 19 January 2018 10: 47
      +2
      Yes, virgin lands ... Therefore, the capital moved to the north!
      1. bald
        bald 19 January 2018 13: 05
        +1
        The historical capital of Kazakhstan was Alma-Ata, but the "comrade" Nazyrbaev felt that it was better to be in the middle of his patrimony, given over to the unreasonableness of the Bolsheviks. And what are the prospects for NATO, with such a territory !!! And the very center of Russia - here it is, in front of the nose! Damn, well, you can’t allow this to happen.
        1. Humpty
          Humpty 19 January 2018 15: 16
          +1
          Quote: bald
          The historical capital of Kazakhstan was Alma-Ata, but the "comrade" Nazyrbaev felt that it was better to be in the middle of his patrimony, given over to the unreasonableness of the Bolsheviks. AND

          Sorry, but look at the map of the RSFSR until 1936, dear man. And the capital was originally Perovsk, the Uzbek girl Ak-Mechet in girlhood, aka Kyzylorda, but the “founding fathers” wanted Uzbek capital as Tashkent, it didn’t. hi
          1. bald
            bald 19 January 2018 15: 36
            0
            Perhaps this is not the point of the question - I think you understand the main alarm of the question. I'll know.
          2. bald
            bald 19 January 2018 16: 14
            +1
            I read the message - thanks, for some reason they did not give an answer.
  19. prior
    prior 19 January 2018 08: 56
    +2
    The cunning Kazakh made friends with a brazen American ... Wait for the next coup, now in Astana.
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  21. BecmepH
    BecmepH 19 January 2018 10: 17
    0
    Quote: LSA57
    Quote: JonnyT
    The current Russian Federation has already shown how it “does not abandon its own people” to Ukraine.

    and who did she leave there?

    Dear, do not bother much. The boy, (judging by the judgments and ardor) has not yet figured out the issue, that’s boiling. Young green)))
  22. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 19 January 2018 10: 20
    +6
    It is sharply felt under what press Nazarbayev got. In fact - a trite assent to Trump. What difference does it make in which of the countries that are neutral for the conflict? In terms of logistics, Belarus is more convenient. And according to the logic of the exceptional, negotiations can also be arranged in Australia, in the sense that the farther from Russia the more reliable the agreement ...
  23. Dormidont
    Dormidont 19 January 2018 10: 25
    +1
    It would be better to introduce peacekeepers to northern Kazakhstan in advance
  24. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 19 January 2018 11: 16
    0
    It’s not about WHERE, but with WHO. The Bandera junta must be overthrown, and for this it is necessary to drive the Western World out of there, and Russia can do this and it is necessary to start with American missile defense in the territories of Romania, Poland, under the threat of their destruction.
  25. TRP
    TRP 19 January 2018 11: 20
    +3
    Yeah ... and the 22 billion that the US was arrested has nothing to do with ... Nazarbayev’s air is blocked so that Maidans can be arranged in Kazakhstan if he doesn’t obey. There have already been warnings, we remember ...
    In general, the war against Russia, to eliminate, continues on all fronts.
  26. Krymgireevsky
    Krymgireevsky 19 January 2018 11: 58
    +1
    Kazakhstan was taken ... by the throat, invited to negotiations, Nazarbayev agreed on everything. It may already be said today that negotiations between the parties to the Syrian conflict in Astana also make no sense to continue or change the format and blah blah blah ... And how to cope with this technology of global suppression?
  27. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 19 January 2018 12: 03
    +1
    How devotedly "Elbasy" looks at Trump! Not so on Putin. But the view itself is not so hot.
  28. Zogak
    Zogak 19 January 2018 12: 41
    +2
    Just in case. Trump invited Nazarbayev to the United States in September this year.
  29. koshmarik
    koshmarik 19 January 2018 14: 04
    0
    Nobody wants to really fight or at least provide some help to the Donbass, neither Batko, nor Nazarbayev, but they don’t feed bread with intermediaries. Neither responsibility nor cost, but only the glory of peacekeepers. Wise guys are bad.
  30. foreman
    foreman 19 January 2018 17: 12
    0
    so he will tell everything !!!!
  31. Vladimir Moroz
    Vladimir Moroz 19 January 2018 20: 26
    +1
    And under what matters is Nazarbayev and Trump here? Take a walk in the forest.
  32. dDYHA
    dDYHA 20 January 2018 08: 55
    0
    Enough refers to the post-Soviet space as potential allies. There is not a single union based on honesty in the world. Moreover, there is no union as such is only a talking room. More or less honest and partnerships are possible and temporary. Who lived in a communal or hostel will understand.
  33. flicker
    flicker 21 January 2018 01: 30
    +2
    According to Trump, the Minsk process has reached an impasse, and therefore it is necessary to look for a new platform for negotiations.

    This news should be considered together with the news about the adoption of a law on the "reintegration of Donbass", which, according to politicians, means breaking the Minsk agreements and the transition to war. Talking about Astana, in order to finish the Minsk agreements, there are no Minsk agreements, there is no responsibility to Germany and France. The path to war is open.
  34. Gennady Fyodorov
    Gennady Fyodorov 22 January 2018 01: 10
    0
    These "Slavs" easily agreed when they wanted to destroy the USSR! And they are incapable of recovery! To do this, Chinggis Khan is needed to give out to everyone .. and forbid to fight with each other, like the Kiev principality with Vladimir and what else was there "Rus", the principality. Only Trump guessed to elect Nazarbayev for the role of Genghis Khan!
  35. kriten
    kriten 22 January 2018 20: 25
    0
    Remember the words of the godfather: and whoever first comes to you from them with a proposal of negotiations is a traitor.
  36. Gera_cl
    Gera_cl 26 January 2018 10: 14
    0
    we live in a terrible age