Military transport plane crashed in Turkey

Turboprop military transport aircraft of the Turkish Air Force CASA CN-235 crashed shortly after departure from an air base near the town of Eskisehir, the NTV television channel reported Wednesday referring to the governor of the province Shehmus Gunaydyn.

The Governor noted that the disaster occurred in a remote mountainous area near the settlement Yalvach. Killed three people.

The information was confirmed in the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Turkey. According to the General Staff, the CASA CN-235 aircraft was assigned to the Turkish Air Force base in Eskisehir province, the flight was carried out as part of the planned flight training, there were two pilots and a technician on board.

Around 12.50, the aircraft disappeared from the radar, after which search and rescue operations were promptly launched. In 14.30, in the northern part of Lake Egirdir, wreckage of the aircraft and the bodies of three dead were found

- it is said in the message of the Turkish military department.

Squadrons of Turkish fighter-bombers, as well as CN-235 transports and helicopters are based in Eskisehir.

Comments

[zzdimk]

Sorry for the pilots and crew. Do not care which country. They are just people.

[210ox]

Aviation is a dangerous business .. Relatives of condolences ...

[Muvka]

Quote: zzdimk

Sorry for the pilots and crew. Do not care which country. They are just people.

Interestingly, is the NATO general pushing the red button for a nuclear strike on our country also just a person?

[BVS]

Exactly the same as the general of the Russian Federation or China, "pushing the red button for a nuclear strike."
They are all human.

[Muvka]

Those. should we be sad when such a person dies?

[BVS]

You need to be sad if any person dies. And what do you think that the generals from any country are different? What is the NATO general (though there are none in nature, there is the general of a NATO country) is something different between the generals of China and the Russian Federation?

[Orionvit]

Quote: bvs

You need to be sad if any person dies

Hello, and then for one turn the other cheek? Why so much inappropriate philanthropy? Regarding the plane, I will not gloat, and grieve the same. Turkey is far from a friend to us, and it is not yet known what cargoes on such planes deliver to Syrian militants.

[BVS]

It's good that you half agreed with me. But to grieve or not is your right.

[Muvka]

And I'm not saying that you need to rejoice. But to grieve is somehow wrong ...

[Secretparadox]

This is a philosophical question, from my point of view - any person deserves to be mourned, and especially if we are talking about the deaths of the military, who simply did their duty. It is not at all necessary that these military men wished harm to Russia or the Russian people, they simply did their duty. Actually, all countries are also guided by this logic, because there are military laws by which ordinary soldiers must be captured and kept under normal conditions because they are not responsible for the activities of their states.

[insular]

Quote: Muvka

Interestingly, is the NATO general pushing the red button for a nuclear strike on our country also just a person?

Even when there is a tragedy with SSBNs and SSBNs, for obvious purposes, people of many countries carry flowers to the embassy of the country that has lost ...

Quote: Muvka

But to grieve is somehow wrong ...

It is not right to be an animal.
even on the battlefield there is room for mercy, compassion and humanity for the enemy. People should not lose their humanity.
This does not mean that the enemy does not need to strive to defeat. But to win does not mean to kill and kill the defeated - this is a war crime.
This is what the Poles, Germans, and generally many philanthropic Europeans forgot about at one time, but Russian barbarians always remembered.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

I'm sorry, really .. (although I remembered our shot down pilots) ..

[rpek32]

Do you happen to have a brother?

[san4es]

Quote: rpek32

Do you happen to have a brother?

...in Moscow

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: rpek32

Do you happen to have a brother?

I'm the only one on the site .. Everything else is cleaned up! I promised (you can check) ...

[karish]

Quote: MIKHAN

I'm the only one on the site .. Everything else is cleaned up! I promised ..

Vital, what did you promise?

[Svarog51]

Alexander, welcome

Vital, what did you promise?

He now has an oath in his profile.

I swear to comply with the rules of the site and not write slogans, etc. he he

[bouncyhunter]

Vitaly, hello! I’m not sorry for the iron, but I feel ambivalent feelings about the pilots: I kind of sympathize with the families, but I ask myself the question: “Did they regret it?” ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: bouncyhunter

Vitaly, hello! I’m not sorry for the iron, but I feel ambivalent feelings about the pilots: I kind of sympathize with the families, but I ask myself the question: “Did they regret it?” ...

Of course I would have spoken out, but this is not the case .. So far, do not tidy up the past ..
If they fly to us (Syria), even Israel knows that.

[karish]

Quote: MIKHAN

Quote: bouncyhunter

Vitaly, hello! I’m not sorry for the iron, but I feel ambivalent feelings about the pilots: I kind of sympathize with the families, but I ask myself the question: “Did they regret it?” ...

Of course I would have spoken out, but this is not the case .. So far, do not tidy up the past ..
If they fly to us (Syria), even Israel knows that.

What do you bring down the Turks? Of course we know.

[Secretparadox]

So far, everyone knows that we will bring down something NATO only according to your words. Neither the Turkish plane, nor the American tomahawks brought down our military spirit.

[Pete mitchell]

hello Pasha iron is not a pity. According to human pilots, may Allah accept condolences. But as a military - it happens. And you are right: neither they, no one would allow experience

[Elena Zakharova]

Ancient rubbish, sleazy Spaniards in commonwealth with Indonesia.

[Baloo]

Quote: Elena Zakharova

Ancient rubbish, sleazy Spaniards in commonwealth with Indonesia.

Did not understand what brand of airplane? In the photo, the pepilace resembles something surprisingly familiar.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Balu

Quote: Elena Zakharova

Ancient rubbish, sleazy Spaniards in commonwealth with Indonesia.

Did not understand what brand of airplane? In the photo, the pepilace resembles something surprisingly familiar.

By class and performance characteristics close to the An-26
LTX CASA CN-235:
Modification CN.235
Wingspan, m 25.81
Length of aircraft, m 21.353
Aircraft height, m ​​8.177
Wing area, m2 59.10
Weight, kg
empty 8800 aircraft
maximum take-off 16500
Internal fuel, kg 4230
Engine type 2 TVD General Electric CT7-9C
Power kW x 2 1394.5
The maximum speed, km / h 445
Cruising speed, km / h 248
Practical range, km 4355
Range, km 1501
Practical ceiling, m 8110
Crew, people 2-3
Payload: 48 soldiers or 46 paratroopers or 24 stretchers and 4 escorts or 6000 kg of cargo.

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: Balu

In the photo, the pepilace resembles something surprisingly familiar.

Casa CN-235 - lightweight turboprop military transport aircraft.

Developed by an Airtech consortium led by Spanish company CASA and Indonesian company Industri Pesawat Terbang Nusantara. The first flight of the prototype aircraft took place in May 1981 year.

[Pete mitchell]

Does that make him a bad plane? A sufficiently reliable machine, decently packed with equipment, is well suited to the tasks that still need. Produced by EADS, aka Airbus military division, manufactured in Seville. Nice car, it happens

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

What's this

This is Avahlam.
After all, I wrote in Russian.

[Pete mitchell]

You can write in Chinese, this does not change anything. Sorry, but you are a specialist that dubbed CASA trash? Can you have experience operating it? An airplane has its own poverty in the market, there are tasks to which it corresponds. And now he does not have many competitors, or rather not at all.

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Sorry, but you are a specialist that dubbed CASA trash?

I am a design engineer, KTN.
Graduated from MAI.
I work in a specialty.
To be honest, I need to chew on you with a crowbar, why I called this trough air junk.
Try to get to it yourself.

[Pete mitchell]

You do not bother. Only I very rarely meet planes of the Soviet design school, more and more strangers, which is sad. Do not be distracted, maybe you can come up with a sensible one and you can chew it to the authorities

[Pete mitchell]

These are fresh casas that are small. Still produced and in demand

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

These are fresh casa,

Ну и что?

[Pete mitchell]

Nothing, it's nice to see how new planes regularly roll out of the shops. It’s a pity that these are not the planes that I want to see, but which ones ...

[insular]

Quote: Elena Zakharova

Ну и что?

Any argument is broken about such an argument ...

Quote: Elena Zakharova

I work in a specialty.

Junior assistant specialist for sharpening pencils at KB?

Quote: Elena Zakharova

The first flight of the prototype aircraft took place in May 1981.

The first one is 12 years younger than the Il-76, but another Il-76 is still at the flight test stage ... As they say - that’s the difference. This is to say that the age of the prototype and the date of the first flight, practically does not say anything about the modification and the production date of a particular product or model, if suddenly they do not tell KB employees ...
(I do not compare anything with IL-76 except age, just in case ...)

Quote: Elena Zakharova

To be honest, I need to chew on you with a crowbar, why I called this trough air junk.

For decades - 9 flight accidents with the loss of a car (including 5 accidents, counting from this one). Further - do not bother.

[Elena Zakharova]

Quote: insular

Further - do not bother.

And how much has been released?
What is the average raid on one car?
How many take-offs and landings?
Huh?
Airclam.
I wrote in Russian.

[Pete mitchell]

It’s written in Russian

Quote: insular

Quote: Elena Zakharova

Ну и что?

Further - do not bother.

[Elena Zakharova]

Are there any answers to my questions?

[FLOOD]

The fourth case with the same machine in Turkey ..

[Pontelimon 5230]

Kurds started using American MANPADS?

[Russia]

Pilots are the elite of any army, sorry for the condolences to their families.

[Simon]

Isn't Kurdish sabotage?

[Baloo]

Quote: Simon

Isn't Kurdish sabotage?

Why immediately sabotage? Piloting errors in the mountains and among our most skilled pilots happened. Finally equipment wear. A couple of years ago, they showed on the news how the An-22 was landing in Africa, while slowly rotating around its longitudinal axis. A terrible sight.

[Herculesic]

They should remember about our brought down “drying” all their lives!

[san4es]

Turboprop military transport aircraft Turkish Air Force CASA CN-235

[Hey]

They tried to land on the water.

[evil partisan]

The path of aviation is strewn with the bodies of pilots ...

[Stas157]

Quote: wicked partisan

The path of aviation is strewn with the bodies of pilots ...

And the way of the ships is strewn with sailors. The path of the submarines is by submariners. The way of trains - by the drivers. The way of tanks - by tankmen ...
You gave a bad, not at all inspirational analogy.

[evil partisan]

Quote: Stas157

You gave a bad, not at all inspirational analogy.

In fact, this saying is already 100 years old.