Chinese media told how Beijing and Moscow can press the US in the global economy

Russia and China have already created a dollarless environment in bilateral oil trade, now it is necessary to increase the gold reserves in both countries, writes the Chinese portal Sohu.

“A number of countries are actively trying to find an alternative to the dollar as a reserve currency. So, Moscow and Beijing in the bilateral oil trade have created a dollar-free environment, and also increase gold production in order to insure against a dollar decline. At the moment, Russia and China together possess about 3670 tons of precious metal, ”the article quotes. RIA News.

According to the portal BWChinese, today the United States is in first place in the world in gold reserves (8133,5 tons). In turn, the People's Republic of China and the Russian Federation occupy the sixth and seventh places respectively (1842,6 and 1828,6 tons). At the same time, experts believe that Beijing and Moscow may have even more precious metal, since there are a large number of channels for its purchase.

"Thus, the gold reserves of both countries together may be more US stocks, which puts the dollar in an awkward position, and can also press down Washington in the global economy," the material says.

The gold reserve is managed by the central bank or the ministry of finance of the country and is part of the gold reserves, which also includes securities and foreign currency.

Comments

[Captain smollett]

And in the morning in the news I heard that they were going to buy up dollars again? Who should I believe?

[maxim947]

And in the morning in the news I heard that they were going to buy up dollars again? Who should I believe?

The goal is to smooth out the volatility of the national currency and, in the absence of economic need, for the current period of time, in strengthening the ruble.
The implementation of the plan to shift the dollar as a reserve world currency threatens not less than a global war, therefore, the armed forces must be in such a state that even our “partners” do not even think about it.

[Chertt]

Quote: maxim947

The goal is to smooth out the volatility of the national currency and in the absence of economic need

Most importantly, let them do at least something. Naturally. dropping the Hegemon is a long, difficult business. I suspect bumps on my forehead, we’ll beat more than one (to the delight of liberals and all-muttors). But sitting and doing nothing is worse

[Going]

You need to be very careful here, because the United States, on the understanding that they have "sailed", can do a lot of trouble.

[Chertt]

Quote: Going

because the United States, with the understanding that they "sailed", can do a lot of trouble.

Yes, of course, and mattresses will definitely not calmly wait until they are buried

[Going]

Therefore, one must be careful that they could not understand anything ... but also ...

[Shurik70]

Yes, one must be careful not to lead to war.
But it is good that in China, too, they spoke on this topic. And that’s just what we usually say. This must be done together. But it’s necessary to do this, an alternative - a radioactive toxic dump instead of a planet, the US dictatorship will lead to this

[flicker]

So, I think no one is going to drown them, moreover, if they suddenly begin to sink, they will throw a life buoy. It will be enough for everyone if they slightly clean out their most quick-moving elite, or just calm them down.

[Varg]

Only there is no one to do it. All persons who have the opportunity to somehow influence the strengthening of the ruble have considerable dollar bills, real estate over the hill (including in the USA) and close relatives who have citizenship of other states. They didn’t mind taking measures taken at a loss.

[Per se.]

Quote: varg

They didn’t take measures wounded at a loss.

Not injured at a loss, and for Russia horseradish radish is not sweeter, under our capitalism, having gone from the dollar, crawled under the yuan. It is unlikely that the Chinese "comrades" in their interests will be anything better than the Americans. To think about your ruble, you need a way out of someone else's system, creating your own pole of power, which can only be renewed socialism.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Per se.

Not injured at a loss, and for Russia horseradish radish is not sweeter, under our capitalism, having gone from the dollar, crawled under the yuan. It is unlikely that the Chinese "comrades" in their interests will be anything better than the Americans. To think about your ruble, you need a way out of someone else's system, creating your own pole of power, which can only be renewed socialism.

In a copper medal, the Bundesbank included the yuan in its reserves. The Germans probably sense that the dollar will give up its positions little by little. And not so long ago, and Turkey called for the rejection of the dollar in the calculations. In general, in a couple of years, settlements in the dollar decreased by 16%. Demand for physical gold is growing. The "sponsored" amicably demand from the United States to issue their gold stored at the mattresses, and the mattresses send them either in 2020 or in 2030, which is similar to sending in three letters. There are also dances with virtual cryptocurrencies ... In short, the belief in the dollar is dying away, and with it the existing financial system will come to reformatting, where it will be decisive that the national currency will have to have material support.

[flicker]

But our “partners” are no longer a monolith, and more and more cracks appear inside them.
Previously, all our "partners" were equal before God, but now some wanted to become even - hence the cracks

[Spartanez300]

In some opinion, the US gold reserve may look like this.

[rocket757]

Everything can be, however, it is not worth going into conspiracy theories.
It’s like flying to the moon, there is no reliable evidence, but there is a statement by the Soviet government!

[You Vlad]

Quote: rocket757

Everything can be, however, it is not worth going into conspiracy theories.

What is conspiracy theories? Here is China smog allow yourself to cause a scandal and return the fake gold bullion of the United States that was stored, the fanfares of the tag -dam were kept Fort knox! Oh how!
Even VO has an article:

https://topwar.ru/5918-ssha-ostalis-bez-zolotogo-
zapasa.html

[allaykbar]

Everything can be, however, it is not worth going into conspiracy theories.
It’s like flying to the moon, there is no reliable evidence, but there is a statement by the Soviet government!

This is an international evidence scandal. Conspirology is called those who want to blur the facts and make it nonsense.

Well, you, I think, by no knowledge.

So the mattresses screwed up

[rocket757]

Not in the subject! I’ll look, look, read, and then ...

[Knowing]

So, after all, Germany and France, whether willingly or not, help us in this matter: After a statement by a member of the central bank of Germany on keeping part of the country's foreign exchange reserves in Chinese yuan as a diversification measure, a similar statement was made by the Bank of France.
see: http://www.vestifinance.ru/articles/96314

[rocket757]

They want to save themselves!
How does this help us? Do they oppose the dollar?
They have one world, closely related finances and economics, they compete a little, and our drools are ready to let go of joy !!!
Sami, not hoping for anyone !!!! There can be no friends in this matter! So, temporary fellow travelers !!!
This is capitalism baby!

[midivan]

[/ quote] At the same time, experts believe that Beijing and Moscow may have even more precious metal, since there are a large number of channels for its purchase. [quote]

I don’t even understand, right now, so openly our brother is fooled?

[You Vlad]

Quote: midivan

I don’t even understand, right now, so openly our brother is fooled?

Well, this is secret data (everyone is aware of this) if that The trick is that no one knows for surestrategic stock you understand ...

[midivan]

Quote: You Vlad

you understand the strategic reserve ...

Pawnshops? Damn, I didn’t think so.

Quote: You Vlad

Well, this is secret data (everyone knows about it) if that is the trick that no one knows for sure

Well, of course it’s good, you can poke as much as you need, do not know how to settle down next to it to help count?

[You Vlad]

Quote: midivan

Pawnshops? Damn, I didn’t think so.

No, you misunderstood me
These are the games of the powerful! I’ll explain more simply, you know how to play cards, you don’t know exactly what cards your opponent has on hand to play for sure!

[midivan]

Quote: You Vlad

These are the games of the powerful of this world! I’ll explain more simply, you know how to play cards, you don’t know exactly what cards your opponent has in his hands to play for sure!

But now I understand, but is it really impossible to calculate? Mining a year is so much, buying over the hill is so much, etc., etc., sort of like open information basically. They even showed the store on TV, it’s already possible to estimate (by specialists). Well, okay, I was more outraged that we have less than half the redheads for two with China, but we can mobilize more, okay so. And now the question is, there’s no one to help amers with? England, Saudis, for example, for the sake of such a thing (I think so) will help, it’s for sure that our ruble and yuan are not quite at court

[You Vlad]

Quote: midivan

Well, okay, I was more outraged that we have less than half the number of redheads for two with China,

Well this is not a fact The fact is that Russia and China have been the main buyers of gold in the world for several years. You can only calculate what is declared ..
In England, she joined the Chinese Bank - Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank! What the United States reproached them for ...

[midivan]

Thank you, now it’s become a little clearer

[rotmistr60]

A number of countries are actively trying to find an alternative to the dollar as a reserve currency.

This topic has been discussed for a long time and the creation of a dollar-free environment in the oil trade is certainly a step towards this. But only a step that we hope will follow other steps. In the meantime, you have to put up with the "rule" of the dollar in the world market.

[Strips]

I would be more concerned that

Russia has run out of reserve fund

https://news.rambler.ru/economics/38598954-u-ross
ii-zakonchilsya-rezervnyy-fond /

The reserve fund, where money from oil was supposed to accumulate, and this fund were profiled.

Billions have been spent, now Russia is starting to crawl into the NWF, from which they also cover the pension fund deficit, which is growing every year.

Money is melting + in February, most likely new sanctions from the United States on oligarchs that will receive lost through ordinary citizens, through new taxes and higher prices.

[You Vlad]

Quote: Tiras

Russia has run out of reserve fund

Lie as of December 01.12.2017, 994 - XNUMX billion rubles
The volume of the fund always floats ... When it is big, then the cry is why this money is not invested in the economy! Well, when it falls, the cry is all gone

[allaykbar]

here gathered on the site the economic block of the government in exile. Any of them will tell you how to live and where to invest.

[Strips]

Quote: You Vlad

They lie on 01.12.2017/994/XNUMX - XNUMX billion rubles

No no lie. You just have old data.

The funds of the Russian Reserve Fund in 2017 will be exhausted, 662 billion rubles will be spent from the National Wealth Fund (NWF). On Thursday, December 7, said Finance Minister Anton Siluanov, the press service of the government.

The volume of the fund always floats ... When it is big, then the cry is why this money is not invested in the economy! Well, when it falls, the cry is all gone

The reserve fund, unfortunately, no longer floats - it is closed although it is called the association. There is nothing to swim there - all the money from oil was spent ...

On November 1 the volume of the Reserve Fund amounted to 975,5 billion rubles (16,9 billion dollars), the National Welfare Fund - 4,014 trillion rubles (69,36 billion dollars). In July, the State Duma adopted in the third and final reading a bill to merge the Reserve Fund and the NWF. Pooling of funds will end no later than February 1, 2018

And now the reserve fund is 0.

That is, now the NWF is already starting to spend, which is already being spent on covering the deficit of the pension fund. And this is also being done for the first time. That is, the last reserves begin to pull and the last

Now look, the NWF was 4014 billion. Of these, to cover the deficit of the pension fund this year, 662 billion. This is 16.5%. The deficit is likely to grow every year and soon this fund will melt.

Unless Russia suddenly has money .. Either suddenly oil will rise sharply, or new taxes will be introduced.

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Tiras

Is it that Russia will suddenly have money .. Either suddenly oil will rise sharply, or taxes will introduce new

Oil has risen in price and therefore gas will rise.

Quote: Tiras

The deficit is likely to grow every year and soon this fund will melt.

And why is it needed so huge, from my point of view, it was originally not a good idea, frozen money, let it work better for industry, build roads, ships, bridges, industry will grow, and the amount collected from taxes will increase.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Tiras

Now look, the NWF was 4014 billion. Of these, 662 billion were to cover the deficit of the pension fund this year. This is 16.5%. The deficit is likely to grow every year and soon this fund will melt. Unless Russia suddenly has money .. Either suddenly oil will rise sharply, or new taxes will be introduced.

Money and so get twice as much as budgeted. That is not the point. As for their “warehousing,” our HSE clever guys will find where to shove them so that the brake pads that the liberals have dragged on for 25 years have not been torn off the Russian economy. But with regard to funds, the bottom line is that there is a need to unite all kinds of funds under one roof for a more efficient use of funds. According to the estimates of the Audit Chamber, 143 billion rubles are spent on the maintenance of scattered funds per year !!! - this is the money that can be redirected to social needs, pensions, etc. and not for the maintenance of the apparatus and the maintenance of the needs of the funds.

[voyaka uh]

The fund was officially liquidated in early 2018.

"The Ministry of Finance announced the liquidation of the Reserve Fund"
https://www.novayagazeta.ru/news/2018/01/10/13850
7-minfin-ob-yavil-o-likvidatsii-rezervnogo-fonda

[You Vlad]

Quote: voyaka uh

"The Ministry of Finance announced the liquidation of the Reserve Fund"

Sure, I didn't know thanks

[rotmistr60]

Strips
I would be more concerned that Russia has run out of reserve funds

You’d better take care of your health, otherwise you will not be able to reach this rate until March, because "work" on the site for wear.

[You Vlad]

Quote: rotmistr60

You’d better take care of your health, otherwise you will not be able to reach this rate until March, because "work" on the site for wear.

You do not worry about them Their name is Legion.

[Strips]

Quote: rotmistr60

You’d better take care of your health, otherwise you will not be able to reach this rate until March, because "work" on the site for wear.

Yes, I’ll figure it out myself, what should I care about. I understand that the truth is really annoying you, so that you yourself can take care of your health

[rotmistr60]

Your comments are not at all unnerving, but simply show your political orientation, which I do not support at all.

[Strips]

Quote: rotmistr60

your political orientation, which I absolutely do not support.

I wonder what my political orientation is?

[KVU-NSVD]

Today, the United States is in first place in the world in gold reserves (8133,5 tons).

It has long been rumored that this is a fiction and the king is naked. BUT EVEN THREATS, exposing global lies will force the US to set fire to the whole world. Understand the ashes It will be too late, but most likely no one

[Aleks777]

Yes, but in the media in Russia, gold has been exhausted and where suddenly the PRC will become divided by gold)))))

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Aleks777

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Aleks777 Today, 11:58 AM New
Yes, but in the media in Russia, gold has been exhausted.

And where did you read that?

[faiver]

what? can press out again? once again they can? these grandmother’s tales don’t insert me

[Northern warrior]

Russia should pursue a sovereign policy in all areas, without looking back at anyone. We need more money for the economy - to abolish the free conversion of the ruble and print them in the required quantities, the WTO and the IMF are preventing our country from developing the real sector - to get out of these offices, the "partners" are threatening with new sanctions - send them to hell. We should not be afraid of anyone and nothing in this world, otherwise they will devour!

[voyaka uh]

In Venezuela, they did so.

[Lexus]

Gold, of course, is good. But it is really possible to squeeze out science, technology, developed industrial production and security in the resources necessary for this.

[Northern warrior]

Russia has all this, but there is no main thing - political will. And do not watch the false Western propaganda about the gas station country. Russia in terms of industrial production at the German level, second only to the United States, China and India. Yes, we do not have some technologies, but our competitors cannot boast of this. Germany makes excellent cars and machine tools, but it does not build BN launch vehicles and reactors, and it is not among the top five in the sale of weapons.

[Korax71]

Uncle, who’s the one who brainwashed you like that. For the sake of interest, throw mineral extraction for a second and Russia's share on the world scale will be 0.5%. So the Saudis are also in the top ten, but what they produce besides resources. Yes. Germany does good cars. but the most interesting thing is that her income from selling cars is 11 times !!!!!! more than Russia's income from the sale of weapons. And from the fact that Germany does not launch satellites and does not make nuclear reactors, you cannot call it a backward country.

[Sands Careers General]

According to the BWChinese portal, today the United States is in first place in the world in gold reserves (8133,5 tons)

Stocks that no one has seen and is only on paper

[weksha50]

"In turn, China and the Russian Federation occupy sixth and seventh places respectively (1842,6 and 1828,6 tons) "...

Ahem ... Fifth and sixth as of the end of December 2017 ...
Source: http://goldomania.ru/menu_002_010.html

[tosha.chuhontzev]

Schroeder, being chancellor, suggested that the Arab countries pay for gas and oil by the Eureks. But the Arabs proudly refused under US pressure. As for Russia and China in this matter. Financial Russia will simply be absorbed by China. And what's the difference. In any case, the Chinese have already colonized the Far East. Russian women in this region are happy to marry the Chinese. In 50 years, Russian Russia will lose its familiar semi-Tatar face. And finally, the lines of the Block will come true: yes, we are Scythians, and we are Asians. With slanting and greedy eyes. 你好 nǐhǎo, which means Hello!