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Washington: Russia has a nuclear advantage over the US

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Edition Huffington Post publishes material that says that Russia has an advantage in developing nuclear weapons over the United States and its allies. The material is based on extracts from the so-called unclassified part of the American nuclear doctrine.


The document states that the Russian Federation has a significant advantage also in non-strategic nuclear forces.

Washington: Russia has a nuclear advantage over the US


From the material:
Russia is creating a wide range of non-strategic systems that can be both nuclear and conventional weapons. These are versatile and modern non-strategic systems. (...) Russia, speaking with criticism of the US missile defense system, is working to modernize its ballistic missiles with nuclear warheads, as well as creating a promising interceptor missile.


Recall that Russia has repeatedly appealed to the United States (including a serious cooling in relations) with a call to provide evidence of the "non-directionality of the European missile defense system against the Russian Federation." Every time Washington made a verbal promise about the fact that the European segment of the US missile defense system "is definitely not directed against Russia." And what the “oral promises of Washington” are is well known from the assurances of the then American authorities that NATO did not expand after the unification of Germany.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 January 2018 06: 18
    +5
    Russia has the advantage of creating nuclear weapons over the United States and its allies.

    So sit and do not rock the boat, and do not anger the bear! angry
    1. Vard
      Vard 13 January 2018 06: 24
      +7
      Oral promises ... In other words, noodles on the ears .. And it is very widely known ... To promise does not mean to marry ...
      1. hrych
        hrych 14 January 2018 08: 32
        +2
        Quote: Vard
        To promise does not mean to marry ...

        What we were discussing here did recognize the hegemon. Those. advantage of the Russian Federation in strategic nuclear forces and nuclear weapons in all positions, which undoubtedly is a victory for the Russian Federation and its regime in Nuclear missile race. Moreover, the range of strategic nuclear forces was demonstrated in Syria (which is another plus of this winning company), although without nuclear equipment, in the form of aviation and naval strategic missiles, i.e. two kinds of triad showed tools. Before the fall of the USSR, too, it still broke in front, but on ICBMs, when they made a mobile, one-piece Poplar. When the States failed Midgetman. Well, the Voivode’s unsurpassed heavyweight and even though they accepted the MX, but we learned that it was a failure in the 21st century, when it was removed from service. Also, the BZHRK can also be noted as the average weekly Pioneer for its closest neighbors, plus Alaska and ... The West Coast of the USA. And the states then lost and counted on the Kyrgyz Republic, Stealth and Gorbi with the Trotskyists. What worked, and now these cards are bits. And the Hegemon is not the Hegemon at all.
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 13 January 2018 06: 33
      +6
      The Pentagon needs money, and therefore all these horror stories. laughing
      1. cost 75
        cost 75 13 January 2018 06: 40
        +6
        Quote: siberalt
        The Pentagon needs money, and therefore all these horror stories. laughing

        Where are they doing so already 700 lard.
        1. Non liberoid Russian
          Non liberoid Russian 13 January 2018 06: 44
          +3
          Do you think the generals there are different from those in the Russian Federation? You don’t need telly cars?
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 13 January 2018 11: 57
            +2
            And what, in the Russian Federation are all generals like that?
            1. Non liberoid Russian
              Non liberoid Russian 13 January 2018 12: 23
              +3
              But what about some Suvorovs? honest all wonder
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 13 January 2018 10: 20
          +1
          Quote: kos 75
          Where are they doing so already 700 lard.

          winked hmm, there is little money
      2. hrych
        hrych 14 January 2018 08: 46
        +2
        Quote: siberalt
        The Pentagon needs money, and therefore all these horror stories.

        I can’t agree here. Horror stories are real. It is also worth noting the results of the Victory over the Daishaks, and there are many of them surprisingly:
        1. the destruction of the hired daish army and its state, the threat to its lands was removed;
        2. Captured the coast of the sea with a favorable strata position and shelf deposits;
        3. Turkey is no longer NATO, no matter how formally it is;
        4. there will be no competitive Gulf pipelines in the Russian Federation;
        5. Through the Russian Federation, the Union of Egypt, Turkey and Iran appeared, a powerful anti-Israeli coalition was created;
        6. made peace with the SA;
        7. A weapons demonstration was carried out and two triads were shot.
        And this is not a complete list of this Glorious Company. good
        Still, a promising massive attack by drones was successfully repulsed, an Amersky anti-submarine plane flew nearby, aimed at reptiles and drones, camouflaged under a scrub, but still had a high-tech filling. For the first time, the shield turned out to be stronger than the sword during the first combat use. usually the shield always lagged behind.
    3. Chertt
      Chertt 13 January 2018 07: 12
      +4
      I don’t remember who said "Swallow dust torment"
      1. Vanin
        Vanin 13 January 2018 08: 22
        +5
        Quote: Chertt
        I don’t remember who said "Swallow dust torment"

        Putin said this, briefly and to the point!)))
        1. allegro
          allegro 13 January 2018 12: 20
          +2
          Yes, he said a lot of things, but the point of this
          1. Vanin
            Vanin 13 January 2018 12: 47
            +5
            Quote: alegro
            Yes, he said a lot of things, but the point of this

            Well, let's say the word "Soak in the outhouse .." .. That is exactly what happened in Chechnya ..))))
            And the phrase "you are tormented by swallowing dust .." This is about sanctions and all kinds of provocations from the West !!! ... Putin is not perfect, but he keeps his word! I think this is his last term, and then he will leave quietly .. The change has grown and everything will be updated dramatically!
            1. LSA57
              LSA57 13 January 2018 13: 01
              +1
              Quote: VANIN
              Indeed, this is what happened in Chechnya ..))))

              and now in Syria. December 31, avenged in full
            2. onix757
              onix757 13 January 2018 13: 13
              +5
              Well, let's say the word "Soak in the outhouse .." .. That is exactly what happened in Chechnya ..))))

              And how many Russians live in Chechnya after Mochilov? Why do the largest subsidies go to a region where federal laws do not apply? Where did such privileges come to the detriment of the not rich regions of central Russia?
              1. Vanin
                Vanin 13 January 2018 14: 26
                +7
                Quote: onix757
                Well, let's say the word "Soak in the outhouse .." .. That is exactly what happened in Chechnya ..))))

                And how many Russians live in Chechnya after Mochilov? Why do the largest subsidies go to a region where federal laws do not apply? Where did such privileges come to the detriment of the not rich regions of central Russia?

                All this is cheaper for us than to conduct hostilities .. And the effect is what !!! (we use it sometimes ..))

                They helped us in Crimea ... And especially in Syria! soldier
                1. onix757
                  onix757 13 January 2018 15: 41
                  +3
                  Until the time when the compensation does not stop paying them. Chechnya would cost us no more than the Kostroma region, if there were secular power and working laws on its territory. And judging by the appetite of money, a lot of money goes there, even if the expense item is closed. There are no factories there, but premium cars as in the rest of Russia. It is not normal.
                  1. Vanin
                    Vanin 13 January 2018 15: 55
                    +7
                    Quote: onix757
                    There are no factories there, but premium cars as in the rest of Russia. It is not normal.

                    There is oil and very high quality ... Stop whining about the Caucasus! They had a fight and calmed down .. Everything!
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 13 January 2018 15: 59
                      0
                      And who receives income from this oil?
                    2. onix757
                      onix757 13 January 2018 16: 01
                      +2
                      Wow they got into a fight !!! Several thousand young guys were put up, whom “patriots” are not comme il faut today. Just forgot.
                      1. The comment was deleted.
                    3. weksha50
                      weksha50 13 January 2018 17: 07
                      +3
                      Quote: VANIN
                      They had a fight and calmed down .. Everything!


                      My neighbor in the stairwell has a disabled son ... Crazy ... After Chechnya ...
                      At another neighbor, lower floor - the son died in the first Chechen ...
                      And how many such families are there in Russia?
                      And how many similar families are in Chechnya?
                      And THEY THAT - WILL NOT FORGET ...
                  2. flicker
                    flicker 13 January 2018 16: 17
                    +3
                    onix757
                    Is quality of life determined by premium cars?
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 13 January 2018 16: 47
                      0
                      Is quality of life determined by premium cars?

                      Including
                      1. flicker
                        flicker 14 January 2018 01: 43
                        +3
                        And in what or what is determined?
                        Just wondering the opinion of a person with such an avatar.
            3. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa 13 January 2018 23: 28
              +5
              Quote: VANIN
              The change has grown and everything will be updated dramatically!
              Just do not need sharp movements, I beg you!
              Quote: VANIN
              this is his last term, and then he will leave quietly ..
              The main thing is for the receiver to leave a worthy teacher. And he will leave with honors, I think so. And of course, under the vicious hiss of the liberoid 5-6 columns ... But this is not the main thing. The main thing is that slowly but surely the country and people begin to "live better and more confidently" in tomorrow. And there, you look, and we will return to the social state with a human face!
              IMHO.
              1. Victory
                Victory 14 January 2018 12: 30
                +1
                Yes, it is necessary to return the Soviet system, and send the entire 5th column to us in Yakutia, build roads and preferably in winter at -50
          2. LSA57
            LSA57 13 January 2018 13: 00
            +1
            in Syria ask
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 13 January 2018 10: 21
        +3
        Quote: Chertt
        I don’t remember who said "Swallow dust torment"

        in the language and vertitsa lol
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 13 January 2018 06: 20
    13
    Now, when we create our missile defense system in Cuba, Venezuela, and Mexico, then we can talk about the real parity of our country and the United States! And so the article is a fiction, deliberately showing "what America is weak" in comparison with the Russian nuclear potential.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 13 January 2018 06: 44
      +3
      Quote: Herkulesich
      And so the article is a fiction, deliberately showing "what America is weak" in comparison with the Russian nuclear potential.

      perhaps ... in my opinion, there is shaky parity, the states have a more powerful underwater strategic fleet, and we have mobile land complexes. so somewhere roughly speaking, a balance. but when you consider the secrecy of "ohio," in this regard, America is even replaying us.
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 13 January 2018 10: 25
        +2
        Quote: Dead Day
        but when you consider the secrecy of "ohio," in this regard, America is even replaying us.

        and we have “Poplars” and “Yars” are so open. go straight and shout here we are, knock us down No.
      2. allegro
        allegro 13 January 2018 12: 31
        +2
        mobile complexes are not so vulnerable, the BZHRK was another matter, and the submarine fleet was not inferior to the state one, only it was destroyed for the sake of the metropolis, destroying the best that the states sought
      3. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 13 January 2018 23: 37
        +1
        Quote: Dead Day
        but when you consider the secrecy of "ohio," in this regard, America is even replaying us.
        It is not necessary to idealize their Nut ... Remember, the Guarantor once said in a plain text that we already know where their SSBNs are located ... And these are not empty words ... there is not only r \ a way to detect PLA Yankees, but they try not to talk too much about them ... So, not everything is as gloomy as it might seem at first glance ...
        IMHO.
    2. dSK
      dSK 13 January 2018 07: 17
      +5
      Vitalyevich hello!
      Quote: Herkulesich
      own missile defense system
      S-400 complexes created the "absolute protection" of the Crimean bridge. This is the second S-400 division that serves on the Russian peninsula. It is based in the vicinity of Sevastopol, the affected area extends to Chongar and Armyansk on the border with Ukraine. It is noted that the S-400 division was sent to the Crimea after aggressive statements by senior officials of Ukraine to launch a missile attack on the Crimean bridge under construction in the Kerch Strait. (Channel "Tsargrad" 00:02., 13.01.18/XNUMX/XNUMX)
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 13 January 2018 10: 23
      +4
      Quote: Herkulesich
      then we can talk about the real parity of our country and the United States!

      two would not be parity, the Russian Federation would have long been lying in ruins sprinkled with nuclear ash
      1. onix757
        onix757 13 January 2018 12: 08
        +3
        The DPRK has no parity, but Eun’s steel Faberge scare Americans. For them, the probable damage from a small country in a local conflict is unacceptable.
    4. allegro
      allegro 13 January 2018 12: 24
      +2
      the fact that it’s noodles on ears is clear as daylight, but you didn’t have to leave Cuba, and they told the management, but they didn’t listen to anyone, the states said they answered yes, with such managers we won’t see Cuba as our ears
      1. LSA57
        LSA57 13 January 2018 13: 10
        +3
        Quote: alegro
        but I didn’t have to leave Cuba,

        where is the Russian Federation, and where is Cuba ???? count how much the content of the database will cost ??? brilliant !! sense from her ??? one rocket and there is no Cuba, no base. how many missile defense to get there ?????? a submarine from non-neutral waters bullets and not one missile defense will not work
        but they don’t listen to anyone,

        such as you "experts" to listen, a country without pants and an army will remain
        1. onix757
          onix757 13 January 2018 13: 15
          +1
          count how much the content of the database will cost ???

          much cheaper than oligarchs and buying American debt securities yes
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 13 January 2018 13: 20
            +2
            Quote: onix757
            much cheaper than oligarchs and buying American debt securities

            a sharpie, and that did not continue to answer? Is everything else irrelevant? as always distort laughing
        2. onix757
          onix757 13 January 2018 13: 20
          +3
          one rocket and there is no Cuba, no base. how many missile defense there ??

          Did you count the flight time of a rocket from Kharkov or the Baltic states? A few minutes, a couple of missiles and no center of Moscow.
          And there was an intelligence center on the cube, which should prevent such a development of events. Yes, and the very fact of presence, cooled the Americans.
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 13 January 2018 13: 28
            +1
            Quote: onix757
            Rocket flight time from Kharkov

            are they there? and they won’t. "Point U" under Rostov and there will be nothing to shoot. and the SS-400 will not allow 200 km to fly
            1. onix757
              onix757 13 January 2018 13: 45
              +2
              are they there? and they won’t.

              This is a ka with missile defense bases in poland and romania. They cannot be there, but they are, in all its glory. Will appear sooner or later.
              Point U "near Rostov

              This is the case if you start the hostilities first and then, under favorable circumstances. But the government in the Russian Federation does not conduct an aggressive policy towards its neighbors, right?
              SS-400 will not allow 200 km to fly

              "SS-400" ??? ))) Well then, let it be so. What it does not give. There is no system capable of guaranteed to prevent a missile from flying along a ballistic trajectory. And here we are talking about a few minutes.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 13 January 2018 14: 17
                +1
                Quote: onix757
                Will appear sooner or later.

                let be. the enemy must be seen with binoculars
                This is the case if you start the hostilities first and then, under favorable circumstances.

                yes even the second. start-up takes time to prepare. this time, "Point U" is quite enough to crush the adversary. especially add rocket artillery.
                "SS-400" ??? ))) Well then, let it be so. What it does not give. There is no system capable of guaranteed to prevent a missile from flying along a ballistic trajectory.

                so she will not have time to climb this trajectory. the distance is scanty. it can be destroyed by conventional RZK if desired.
                and ballistics is mathematics. I hope you do not need to tell what kind of science it is?
                I'm tired of raking your nonsense. it is necessary to think of the enemy in my yard, on the sight and I will allow him to beat windows in my house ????? laughing laughing laughing
                do not write, I will not answer No.
                1. onix757
                  onix757 13 January 2018 15: 53
                  0
                  let be. the enemy must be seen with binoculars

                  this is apparently only your opinion. The Union did not think so, and of course we remember the reasons for the Caribbean mess. And for the states it is not acceptable to have such gifts at hand, for all their technological power.
                  yes even the second. start-up takes time to prepare. this time, "Point U" is quite enough to crush the adversary. especially add rocket artillery.

                  At the point at the deployment time of 20 min. During this time, you can level the Rostov region several times. And they also have artillery behind the US missile defense. So with binoculars, you can have time to look at the last time.
                  so she will not have time to climb this trajectory. the distance is scanty. it can be destroyed by conventional RZK if desired.

                  why not in time? What will hurt? Missile defense in the Rostov region?
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 13 January 2018 16: 08
                    +1
                    Quote: onix757
                    The Union did not think so

                    I answer for the last time !!!! did not consider the Khrushchev. he started it all.
                    At the point at the deployment time of 20 min.

                    this is from "0" why should she go and turn around for 20 minutes? What prevents her from standing in a position in the constant state of BG?
                    why not in time? What will hurt? Missile defense in the Rostov region?

                    yes any. they put the launcher, we are next to the air defense battery. on the acceleration section, ANY missile gets lost from everything that falls into the affected area. she does not even have time to ACCELERATE !!!!
                    1. onix757
                      onix757 13 January 2018 16: 42
                      0
                      did not consider the Khrushchev. he started it all.

                      and rightly started, since the placement of pershing in Turkey upset the strategic balance
                      this is from "0" why should she go and turn around for 20 minutes? What prevents her from standing in a position in the constant state of BG?

                      even 5 minutes can be fatal.
                      yes any. they put the launcher, we are next to the air defense battery. on the acceleration section, ANY missile gets lost from everything that falls into the affected area. she does not even have time to ACCELERATE !!!!

                      I would not be so categorical. At one time, there was a lot of information about the air defense umbrella over Syria as a result of nothing. The United States, Israel, is beaten in Syria whenever they like, but with the stubbornly silent c400.
    5. LSA57
      LSA57 13 January 2018 13: 24
      +1
      Quote: Herkulesich
      That is when we create our missile defense system in Cuba, Venezuela, and Mexico.

      But how will there be missile defense elements in case of conflict? or to establish their production on site?
  3. 210ox
    210ox 13 January 2018 06: 22
    +6
    And? ... Give me money! Money! Russians are coming!
    1. Svarog51
      Svarog51 13 January 2018 07: 34
      0
      Dmitry, welcome hi
      Russians are coming!

      I wonder what the Americans came up with after that? Has the lattice been put in the windows of the cabinet of the Minister of Defense, or did they put an article in the budget of the Defense Ministry for the funeral of the Minister? lol
  4. Same lech
    Same lech 13 January 2018 06: 38
    +3
    Washington’s “oral promises” are well known by the assurances of the then American authorities that NATO would not be expanded after the reunification of Germany.

    Russia is right: the US has violated the promise of non-expansion of NATO smile
    Scammers and scammers ...
    http://inosmi.ru/politic/20160531/236719100.html
    1. thinker
      thinker 13 January 2018 08: 28
      +2
      By reference - timid voice of a junior professor
      Of course, NATO expansion does not justify Putin’s warlike policies or his invasion of Ukraine and Georgia. However, a wealth of evidence indicates that Russia's protests are well-founded, and that US policy has become one of the causes of ongoing tensions in Europe.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 January 2018 06: 41
    +5
    Congress must approve the cost of a new nuclear program ... So they began to untwist the "legend". Well, in fact, our nuclear forces are effective and "right." Retribution is inevitable. Let the "light elves" be remembered ...
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 January 2018 07: 24
    +4
    Russia has the advantage of creating nuclear weapons over the United States and its allies
    Well, only recently, some Western “analysts” sang in unison that the United States, even without allies, would make Russia with one finger. And you have the advantage of Russia. Then a reasonable question, but what are you twitching and trying to threaten?
    1. bald
      bald 13 January 2018 07: 49
      +4
      Gennady is in the blood. And at the expense of our superiority in development - Russia gives birth to minds and does everything on its own - and the states give birth to nits, living and thinking at the expense of others.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 13 January 2018 08: 39
        +3
        and the states give birth to nits, living and thinking at the expense of others
        There is nothing to add.
      2. Korax71
        Korax71 13 January 2018 13: 09
        0
        They directly amused. But more specifically about what makes everything possible itself? And where is such confidence that only Russia gives birth to minds. At one time, the industrialization of the 30-40s showed that without a foreign mind nothing would have happened! where do you get your judgments about the superiority of one race over another. The same is much more restrained.
  7. bald
    bald 13 January 2018 07: 44
    +3
    For us, American lies have long been familiar and not surprising. We are just doing our job. We won’t give ourselves an insult, and we will help sincerely asking.
    1. Vanin
      Vanin 13 January 2018 08: 24
      +4
      Quote: bald
      For us, American lies have long been familiar and not surprising. We are just doing our job. We won’t give ourselves an insult, and we will help sincerely asking.

      They said well and there’s nothing to add .. Everything is so! good
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 13 January 2018 08: 35
        12
        I completely agree, but I would like for sincerely asking regimes to change less often.
        1. Vanin
          Vanin 13 January 2018 11: 17
          +3
          Quote: Rusland
          I completely agree, but I would like for sincerely asking regimes to change less often.

          And then some are used to throwing ... We will take all the money, sooner or later!
          Crimea, this is just the beginning!
          All the main thing is yet to come ... fellow

          The Russians are slowly harnessing, but ...
  8. Rusland
    Rusland 13 January 2018 08: 07
    +9
    Again they ask for money, and drug addicts and loafers are sitting at the consoles, no matter how old they are.
  9. Alex-a832
    Alex-a832 13 January 2018 08: 39
    +2
    Explicitly preparing the way for the decision to develop new INF with nuclear warheads. The presence or absence of a contract now does not play any role. Ours also needs to develop universal launchers and missiles for various basing. Continuing to play gentlemanly is stupid. Only parity in nuclear weapons that effectively overcomes missile defense and effective missile defense can minimize the attack of the NATO gang on us.
  10. nivander
    nivander 13 January 2018 09: 04
    0
    and DPRK can reach the sacred carcass
  11. onix757
    onix757 13 January 2018 09: 44
    0
    If Putin did not commit sabotage with the destruction of the BZHRK in the early 2000s, then the advantage was really undeniable.
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 09: 57
      +6
      Quote: onix757
      the advantage was really undeniable

      And would you get the missiles from that rocket engine out of your pocket?
      1. onix757
        onix757 13 January 2018 10: 06
        0
        And let's cut the "Satan", she, too, nowhere to get smile
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 10: 25
          +5
          Still have "ideas"?
          To prove to you that 2 * 2 = 4, there is neither time nor desire, to be honest request
          1. onix757
            onix757 13 January 2018 10: 30
            0
            Well, as time appears, let down. laughing
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 11: 50
              +5
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              no time no desire

              Someone here cannot read ... or with an understanding of the problem.
              1. LSA57
                LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 01
                +2
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Someone here cannot read ... or with an understanding of the problem.

                it turned out the day before yesterday, the troll!
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 12: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: LSA57
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  Someone here cannot read ... or with an understanding of the problem.

                  it turned out the day before yesterday, the troll!

                  Who is the troll, specify laughing
                  1. LSA57
                    LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 16
                    +3
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    Who is the troll, specify

                    the one who is trying to prove to you that the multiplication table was rewritten by Putin and 2x2 toli 5, toli 3
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 12: 18
                      +5
                      ATP yes
                      Quote: LSA57
                      it turned out the day before yesterday, the troll

                      Quote: LSA57
                      the one who is trying to prove to you that the multiplication table was rewritten by Putin

                      If you about onix75, then, who he is, it was clear to me personally ... initially.
                      1. LSA57
                        LSA57 13 January 2018 12: 31
                        +2
                        Quote: Golovan Jack
                        If you are talking about onix75, then who it is, it was personally clear to me ... initially.

                        why feed? smile
              2. onix757
                onix757 13 January 2018 12: 05
                0
                We are able to read, and therefore do not understand your illogical letters)
      2. allegro
        allegro 13 January 2018 12: 44
        +1
        yes why out of pocket, we can produce them in our factories
    2. Vanin
      Vanin 13 January 2018 10: 01
      +4
      Quote: onix757
      If Putin did not commit sabotage with the destruction of the BZHRK in the early 2000s, then the advantage was really undeniable.

      A bold statement and with subtext ..? laughing Russia always has and will have something to answer,
      so that after us, nothing
      ! But I hope that they will not provoke us to this last step of REVENGE! soldier I am sure the hand will not flinch among those who remain alive .. (and somebody and something will certainly survive, Russia is big.)))
    3. Alex-a832
      Alex-a832 13 January 2018 11: 55
      +4
      Why do we need BZHRK, if we have mobile complexes on the ground ride? Significantly cheaper and harder to track enemies. BZHRK - the last century.
      1. onix757
        onix757 13 January 2018 12: 18
        +1
        Russia again decided to build missile trains
        15:1427.12.2012
        © RIA News
        Until 2020, a new military railway missile complex (BZHRK) will appear in Russia, a senior representative of the Russian military-industrial complex told RIA Novosti.
        What are the advantages of BZHRK
        In the 1980s, calculations and practice showed that the BZHRK was one of the most secretive types of strategic weapons: the Americans failed to achieve reliable identification of "missile trains", and domestic training events revealed its high secrecy. Thus, the BZHRK is very resistant to the "counter-force" strike of the enemy and is able to show high survivability in the return strike.
        In addition, the BZHRK allowed the use of heavier missiles than modern PGRK (mobile ground missile systems): we recall that the RT-23UTTX had an abandoned weight four times greater than that of its current “Topol” (and 3,4 times more than the later "Poplar-M2).
        ___________________________________
        Threat soil complexes developed in the 80s of the last century.
      2. Vanin
        Vanin 13 January 2018 12: 21
        +5
        Quote: Alex-a832
        BZHRK - the last century.

        Well, not the past! It’s just that they are private and there is a risk of provocations with undermining (we do not currently have control in the USSR) .. Let’s better run through the taiga and
        So ...

        BZHRK, too troublesome .. soldier
      3. allegro
        allegro 13 January 2018 12: 41
        +1
        BZHRK is not the last century, if you at least read something on this topic, but the soil complex is in full view
        1. Alex-a832
          Alex-a832 13 January 2018 13: 54
          +1
          It's my opinion. Both for and against full of arguments. Putting a relatively “light” rocket in the railway container - stealth is higher, but the advantage with respect to the primer is lost. The heavy complex is calculated at times - intelligence tools over the past quarter century have not stood still. If RSMD is placed in railway containers so that it doesn’t differ from standard cars, and it runs along the European part of the country, then yes, there is a reason, but it will be a completely different complex.
          1. Vanin
            Vanin 13 January 2018 14: 53
            +3
            Quote: Alex-a832
            Putting a relatively “light” rocket in the railway container - stealth is higher, but the advantage with respect to the primer is lost. The heavy complex is calculated at times - intelligence over the past quarter century

            Well, I don’t know, I don’t want to argue .. But I personally am for the nuclear submarine! And for the tank fist in the West and in Syria! I remember in the GDR, this was .. They would have rushed to the Atlantic and reached (by wrapping guts on the tracks) Not all of course ..
            Tank divisions have not yet spoken!
  12. weksha50
    weksha50 13 January 2018 10: 46
    +2
    "Russia, ..... .... also creates a promising interceptor missile" ....

    What is the problem and what is the fault of Russia ???

    Well, whining about the superiority of Russia in nuclear weapons over the United States is already tired ... The essence is clear and simple: give money to increase production and development of new weapons ...
  13. andron-30
    andron-30 13 January 2018 10: 51
    +1
    Well, the jackals howled, we thought here we are ruling as we want, we will push anyone we want, and then the fig is in the nose, but they asked Russia? no, go through the woods, in other words, carrots in your ass, all the more it’s fun for them.
  14. Wolka
    Wolka 13 January 2018 12: 01
    +1
    the Yankees with an enviable regularity are losing ground, and are increasingly degrading, but they do not intend to give up and are capable of insanity, this is alarming ...
    1. Vanin
      Vanin 13 January 2018 12: 24
      +3
      Quote: Volka
      the Yankees with an enviable regularity are losing ground, and are increasingly degrading, but they do not intend to give up and are capable of insanity, this is alarming ...

      We have a military base near Israel! Do not dare ...
  15. allegro
    allegro 13 January 2018 12: 38
    +3
    Russia has long had no advantage, even what we now come from the USSR, all the equipment that is still not inferior to the western one, if they did something, they modernized some small part no more
    1. Vanin
      Vanin 13 January 2018 12: 58
      +3
      Quote: alegro
      Russia has long had no advantage, even what we now come from the USSR, all the equipment that is still not inferior to the western one, if they did something, they modernized some small part no more

      Well, you don’t need to be so gloomy .. The developments are also very promising! We in Russia love to be stingy, and our potential is huge .. (they steal the truth terribly, our technologies ..)))
  16. onix757
    onix757 13 January 2018 16: 27
    +1
    Vanin,
    I do not belong to the clan of liberals. If you don’t remember, the president is the most important liberal in our country (at least he said so). Therefore, those who support the president and his policies are also liberals who paint under the patriots.
    We all remember who and what .. and revenge

    than? Raising taxes for the rest of Russia. The authorities have already forgotten about the leaders of the Donbass militia, not to mention the more recent events.
    Where is your Kovalev, bastard?

    Kovalev ???? I don’t know this.
  17. Old26
    Old26 13 January 2018 19: 17
    +1
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Now, when we create our missile defense system in Cuba, Venezuela, and Mexico, then we can talk about the real parity of our country and the United States! And so the article is a fiction, deliberately showing "what America is weak" in comparison with the Russian nuclear potential.

    But they did not try to be interested, but would these countries want to have our missile defense systems in their possession?

    The article, in principle, is quite up to standard. And the Americans are aware that rejoicing in the collapse of the USSR, they missed the point. And now, not even money is the main thing, but time. Therefore, articles of this kind appear.

    Quote: onix757
    And let's cut the "Satan", she, too, nowhere to get smile

    The time will come, cut. And the BZHRK missiles were cut precisely because of the expiration of the PSE.
    1. onix757
      onix757 13 January 2018 20: 08
      +1
      The time will come, cut. And the BZHRK missiles were cut precisely because of the expiration of the PSE.

      C'mon)))) The missile for the BZHRK was the youngest. The destruction of the complex can be explained solely by the demand of the United States, which was executed accurately and on time.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 13 January 2018 20: 22
        +4
        Quote: onix757
        The destruction of the complex can only be explained

        1. onix757
          onix757 13 January 2018 22: 23
          0
          And for you, all the trolls who do not fit into the framework of the official pr-propaganda smile
  18. Old26
    Old26 14 January 2018 11: 31
    +1
    Quote: onix757
    The time will come, cut. And the BZHRK missiles were cut precisely because of the expiration of the PSE.

    C'mon)))) The missile for the BZHRK was the youngest. The destruction of the complex can be explained solely by the demand of the United States, which was executed accurately and on time.

    The warranty period for missiles 60 and 61 complex was determined at 15 years. Work on extending the life of the missiles of this complex was not carried out. So there was no guarantee that the rocket would be operational in the future. And having a missile in service that is unknown, will either fly, or explode at launch, is more expensive
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 January 2018 13: 22
      0
      The warranty period for missiles 60 and 61 complex was determined at 15 years. Work on extending the life of the missiles of this complex was not carried out.

      In other words, the warranty period expired in 2002, but instead of extending the service life (as in the case of the older governor), the guarantor decided to cut into needles. Missed nothing?
  19. lopvlad
    lopvlad 14 January 2018 16: 46
    +1
    The United States even breaks promises on paper when they are disadvantageous, and oral promises even more so. Only our military power will force Americans to comply with the rules, as did the treaties with the USSR.
    Talking about the advantage is pleasant, but unfortunately so far it has only nuclear charge parity.
  20. lopvlad
    lopvlad 14 January 2018 16: 55
    +1
    Why do we need BZHRK, if we have mobile complexes on the ground ride?


    the speed of the BZHRK’s movement is actually twice as high, but I’m silent about invisibility. The ground complex is not a faceless refrigerator, either with products or a nuclear missile, and the obvious missile complex whose movement is limited by woodland and a large number of military escort vehicles.
  21. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 14 January 2018 17: 11
    0
    There is only one motive for whining mattresses: give me denezhek and more! Everything is normal with YABB. What they are far behind is tactical nuclear weapons. Well, where are they going to fight them! In Russia? Nude Nude! am
  22. Old26
    Old26 14 January 2018 18: 08
    0
    Quote: onix757
    The warranty period for missiles 60 and 61 complex was determined at 15 years. Work on extending the life of the missiles of this complex was not carried out.

    In other words, the warranty period expired in 2002, but instead of just saying that, in order to extend the service life (as in the case of the older governor), the guarantor decided to cut into needles. Missed nothing?

    Nothing. But the agreement to extend the life of missiles of the 18th complex was concluded with the more or less sane government of Ukraine at that time. But later, to conclude agreements, especially on such a peculiar topic was a game of “heads and tails”. And if we have liquid subjects, we have someone to replace, although this is an ersatz-design accompaniment. There was no one to replace Yuzhmash
    1. onix757
      onix757 14 January 2018 19: 41
      +1
      But an agreement to extend the life of missiles of the 18th complex was concluded with the more or less sane government of Ukraine at that time.

      You are cunning. Difficulties in servicing the rc20 missiles did not arise under Kuchma, nor under Yushchenko, nor even more so under Yanukovych. Difficulties arose only in connection with the coming to power of Poroshenko, and even in Yuzhmash they say that they do not refuse to contractual relations. So who is the radish? Who did not want to sign a contract for the extension of the terms of RT23 with quite a loyal Kuchma in 2002?
  23. Old26
    Old26 14 January 2018 18: 17
    0
    Quote: lopvlad
    Why do we need BZHRK, if we have mobile complexes on the ground ride?


    the speed of the BZHRK’s movement is actually twice as high, but I’m silent about invisibility. The ground complex is not a faceless refrigerator, either with products or a nuclear missile, and the obvious missile complex whose movement is limited by woodland and a large number of military escort vehicles.

    The speed of the letters broke the entire speed of movement, especially in the Trans-Siberian. Invisibility - what do you think, if 1-2 locomotives pull a train of 40-60 cars, and then 3 locomotives pull 17 cars - is that not noticeable? Or is it a unmasking sign? The whole difference between PGRK and BZHRD is that the bzhrk is tied to a piece of iron, and the pgrk can leave the satellite's flight path. This is a separate conversation and talked about it repeatedly
  24. Old26
    Old26 14 January 2018 18: 29
    +1
    Quote: Dzafdet
    There is only one motive for whining mattresses: give me denezhek and more! RiVsё they have normal with YBB. What they are far behind is tactical nuclear weapons. Well, now they are going to annihilate them! In Russia? Nude Nude! am

    Just with YABB and not everything is fine. Considering that as a result of the collapse of the Union, Russia could not rise, they scored on their nuclear production. And the result is that now their nuclear industrial complex can
    1) dispose of old ammunition
    2) to modernize the existing ones.

    They will be able to produce mass-produced new ones only from 2030. Therefore, they are already shouting "Give money"