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Russia's big economic breakthrough: autarky is inevitable

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Yesterday, Brent crude oil broke through the mark 70 $ per barrel. For the first time since December 2014. At the same time, the ruble exchange rate was trying to recoup the dollar again, but could not, as the Russian Ministry of Finance announced that the whole next month it would begin to actively buy up “green” in the market and thus would not allow the ruble to strengthen strongly. And the day before, he also said that Russia had no more Reserve Fund: it was over ...

So, so many things happened that they need to be understood. Otherwise, the head can spin.

Expensive oil - is it good or bad?

In general, if you believe the Russian opposition, both systemic and non-systemic, the price of oil for Russia is always bad. No, I did not miss a word. Any oil price is bad. When black gold stormed record highs (more expensive than 100 $ per barrel), it was bad because it was setting the country on an oil and gas needle.



It is strange to hear from the mouth of the opposition, just planted the country in 90-e on this very needle. At the same time, they forgot to mention that in parallel they destroyed a significant part of the Soviet high-tech potential, which the current government is struggling to restore today.

About the good just below, but for now let us return to the "opposition."

It’s time to quote this word in the same way as with respect to the Syrian "oppositionists", which is more correct to call a more appropriate word: enemies.

So when prices are high, this is bad. But, in the opinion of the “opposition,” the fall in oil prices below the plinth is no less bad for Russia. Then they begin to frighten the population, that there is no money and everything will be even worse.

This once again underlines the wretchedness and monotony of their thinking, which revolves around oil, gas and their prices. In another way they do not know how to think. And it never occurred to them that this is why they were in the garbage stories. Could not be.

Meanwhile, it is very easy to destroy the myth that the current leadership of Russia links the country's future with its oil and gas wealth. Just look at just one chart:

Russia's big economic breakthrough: autarky is inevitable


The pink line shows the average price per barrel of oil. The blue line is Russia's GDP, also expressed for convenience in dollars. Noteworthy in the graph is the second half of the year 2012. There are no sanctions yet, oil is still highly valued, but Russia's GDP began to grow noticeably faster than oil prices. And this is precisely what indicates that already from this moment the results of the systemic restructuring of the Russian economy have become noticeable. It is the results, since this work itself was carried out much earlier.



What was in the plan of Vladimir Putin, who lay in his desk at the time of taking office almost 20 years ago, perhaps we will ever find out. But now you can evaluate the results of its implementation. Yes, it was precisely when the country's economy was already in ruins after the power of the “reformers” that everything was conceived, and then, with difficulty and brittleness, was put into practice for the country (not yet fully).



And for oil and gas, the role of a source of financing for a big breakthrough was stated in this regard. In the same way as during the time of Joseph Stalin, the golden fund of the Russian Empire and ... natural resources were used for a big breakthrough of the USSR. It was on them that the Union acquired the critical technology and equipment for this. In Russia, the same thing happened, only instead of the gold of churches, forests and other riches, Putin introduced export duties on oil. And on the money received from this today the Russian economy is actually restarted.

By the way, Russia's gold reserves under Vladimir Putin grew almost five times.

And in general, it is somehow strange to hear today about the immersion of the Russian economy in the oil and gas industry - against the background of the supply of Russian equipment to Germany and the actual knock-down to which the Russian Rosatom sent its Western competitors in recent years, etc. Yes, not everything in Russia is happening the way its citizens would like, but then, even under Stalin, not everything went the way it wanted. Right? It is important that the movement goes in the right direction and with acceleration.

The question remains: is there enough of an initial resource for ending this very Putin jerk?

And what about our reserves

An ordinary mortal deal with a kaleidoscope of events around the Russian foreign exchange reserves without 100 gr. difficult. What is there without the 100 gr., Without half a liter, probably not enough. Reserve fund has evaporated, reserves are growing. What happens, who will explain?

First, we must understand that the task of any government is to ensure sustainable and planned development of the country's economy. As we saw above, Russia for a long time, albeit not announced publicly, has moved on to planned development. The branches of its economy are developing in accordance with a large plan for the reorganization of the country's economy as a whole.

According to a very similar Chinese model. And there are differences between China and Russia, and they are due to different initial conditions and ... different end goals.

That is why we see how, over 10 years, Russia's dependence in food has actually been overcome. We also see how the entire lost branches of the national economy are recreated: shipbuilding, aircraft building, electronic industry and others, including new clusters of the national economy.



Russian special funds were originally created so that the development of the country's economy proceeds not in spurts, but in accordance with the plan (this is important for sustainability, and this is currently a very big problem for China). The reserve fund was supposed to be used in “lean years”, and the National Wealth Fund is actually the money of Russian pensioners. Therefore, it is not surprising that since the end of 2014, the first has become the main buffer, allowing Russia to continue moving in the chosen direction, despite the external background that has become very negative.

Today, the population of Russia is afraid that with the exhaustion of the Reserve Fund, the country's budget will be out of balance, and this will be the beginning of the end. No, it will not. Already in 2017, the entire 17 billion dollars (albeit the last) were used to finance the budget. And this is a lot less than in 2015-16. Moreover, the prospects for 2018 are very good, because ... oil prices have risen, and from this Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves began to grow (by more than 50 billion dollars over the past year).

Have we really returned to the beginning and came to the point where we started: if there had not been a rise in oil prices, Russia would have fallen into an economic abyss?

Not really. The fact is that the rebound of oil was inevitable. The world economy has long become global, and without its transition to a new energy system (namely, energy), there can be no long low price for traditional energy sources. Their consumption steadily outpaces the speed of production, which means that their prices can only grow. Any long-term drop in prices threatens to turn into a global economic depression, compared to which the crisis of 2008-10. seem flowered.

But even in this case, the leadership of Russia has its own plan of action. And apparently, the key word of this plan is autarky.

Autarky - a system of closed reproduction of the community, with minimal dependence on the exchange with the external environment; economic regime of self-sufficiency of the country in which foreign trade turnover is minimized.

As we understand, the complete closure of the country from foreign markets today is impossible. But this is not necessary. And you need to do so that external factors could not critically affect the country's economy. And if you look at the actions of the leadership of Russia from this angle, then everything falls into place. This means that, whatever the future cost of oil, it will not be able to greatly affect the economy of Russia. Should this “misunderstanding” happen, the plans for the future will be just a little bit adjusted, that's all.
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  1. Vard
    Vard 12 January 2018 15: 03 New
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    Alas ... This banquet is again at the expense of the middle class ... There’s nothing to take from the poor ... The rich will not give ... We remain hard workers and office plankton ... As I understand it, the dollar will not cost 30 rubles now not when ...
    1. Chertt
      Chertt 12 January 2018 15: 18 New
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      Quote: Vard
      the dollar will not cost 30 rubles anymore ...

      One of the tasks of the Russian economy, to make it so that how much the dollar is worth is not important at all
      1. In100gram
        In100gram 12 January 2018 19: 44 New
        +7
        Quote: Chertt
        Quote: Vard
        the dollar will not cost 30 rubles anymore ...
        One of the tasks of the Russian economy, to make it so that how much the dollar is worth is not important at all

        I really agree. A dollar for 30 is not needed. The higher it is, the more profitable is its own production, i.e. manufacturing sector, not office.
        1. Alber
          Alber 14 January 2018 07: 12 New
          +3
          Quote: In100gram
          A dollar for 30 is not needed. The higher it is, the more profitable is its own production, i.e. manufacturing sector, not office.

          a jerk to nowhere?
          but once the dollar was worth absolutely nothing ... about 60 cents.
          but then there were tens of thousands of factories in the country. almost all released themselves
          1. Petr1968
            Petr1968 15 January 2018 16: 53 New
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            Quote: Alber
            but then there were tens of thousands of factories in the country. almost all released themselves

            They didn’t release anything. Forgot the lines and farmers ?? And I remember. Everything was decent was imported. And by the pull. The store director is god.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: Petr1968
              They didn’t release anything. Forgot the lines and farmers ?? And I remember. Everything was decent was imported. And by the pull. The store director is god.

              And now everything is decent import ??? wassat with the current distribution system, information technologies, and production technologies, but with the preservation of the socialist system and relative isolation from the world market, they would live like in communism.
        2. Ayratelinsion
          Ayratelinsion 14 January 2018 10: 13 New
          +1
          and imports will remain inadequately expensive. Now I mean all the mobile, consumer electronics, practically not produced in Russia
          1. Abracadabrus
            Abracadabrus 15 January 2018 14: 55 New
            +3
            Quote: Ayratelinsion
            and imports will remain inadequately expensive. Now I mean all the mobile, consumer electronics, practically not produced in Russia

            If the prices for consumer electronics were as inadequate as you say, the “impoverished” office plankton would not be in the queues for iPhones, but would be cheaper if there is an alternative to bulk. But no, they grab more expensive fool
            1. Ayratelinsion
              Ayratelinsion 16 January 2018 12: 46 New
              0
              Seriously? Do the prices of computer equipment also look adequate in your opinion?
        3. Petr1968
          Petr1968 15 January 2018 16: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: In100gram
          The higher it is, the more profitable is its own production, i.e. manufacturing sector, not office.

          The higher the dollar, the less you can afford the best things from around the world.
          Who wants to return to the times of the USSR with one kind of hats and Lada - as the ultimate dream - this is not for you in modern Russia, but in Tajikistan.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 25 New
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            Quote: Petr1968
            The higher the dollar, the less you can afford the best things from around the world.

            The task is to have your own things better than in the world, or at least on a level.
    2. Yurasumy
      12 January 2018 15: 53 New
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      And what is the meaning of the dollar in 30? I think you're right, your “office plankton” really will be tight. Rather, it is already tight. No offense only. If you want, call me something offensive. I will not be upset. Just "office plankton" is the right definition for that "middle class", which is concentrated in large cities and which is absolutely useless for the country, if you look.
      1. Serhiodjan
        Serhiodjan 12 January 2018 16: 34 New
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        Sorry, of course, but a modern economy without office plankton (which I consider myself) will become non-core and become extinct. In Africa there isn’t him, this plankton, but in London only he is. I don’t like bureaucracy, but without it, nowhere.
        1. bk316
          bk316 12 January 2018 17: 21 New
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          I do not like bureaucracy, but without it, nowhere

          Nonsense. Office plankton is not a bureaucracy in the classical sense - it is workers who carry out primitive activities in the process of selling goods or services. The keyword "primitive", the bureaucracy has nothing to do with it, the bureaukrat he is the power, and what kind of power does the sales manager, or the secretary of this manager have.
          Since the work is primitive, it can (MAIN NOW) be replaced by automation. Examples of darkness, here are some directly screaming: online stores - remove sales managers, consultants in trading floors, cashiers, docflow - secretaries and clerks.

          Do you know how I used to go on vacation? I contacted a travel agency, count how many people were involved in ordering rooms, tickets, advising me on a vacation spot, accepting money, transferring money to anyone who needs it. How am I doing this now? All from the phone without leaving the car and without stopping it, directly with the providers of the corresponding service.
          1. Deck
            Deck 12 January 2018 19: 38 New
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            All from the phone without leaving the car and without stopping it, directly with the providers of the corresponding service.


            But THIS everything got into your phone itself? Or maybe some kind of invisible little people (primitive) put him there?
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 12 January 2018 22: 02 New
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              Quote: bk316
              Nonsense. Office plankton is not a bureaucracy in the classical sense - it is workers who carry out primitive activities in the process of selling goods or services


              There is nothing to argue about, everything is on the surface.

              No one will keep employees in vain.
              If they are and they are paid a salary, then there is a need for them.
              1. bk316
                bk316 14 January 2018 12: 23 New
                +4
                If they are and they are paid a salary, then there is a need for them.

                Well, not quite like that.

                You can keep employees, you can kick them out and replace them with an automation system. The implementation of the system implies investment and a new style of work. In the first case, after amortization of investments, the profitability of the business will be lower. Accordingly, the employer will begin to reduce salaries, the best employees will leave, product quality will drop. The business will gradually bend.

                That's how it goes.
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 19 January 2018 07: 28 New
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                Quote: bulvas
                If they are and they are paid a salary, then there is a need for them.

                and the Chinese and the West pay their salaries for the promotion of their goods, if you understand
                1. bulvas
                  bulvas 19 January 2018 09: 47 New
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                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  and the Chinese and the West pay their salaries for the promotion of their goods, if you understand


                  In your opinion, is it better for people to starve than to receive a wage from the Chinese?

                  The whole world is fighting for investment in their countries

                  And what's the difference, getting a salary from your or a foreign entrepreneur?
                  They all work the same way in their pocket and pay taxes
            2. bk316
              bk316 14 January 2018 12: 18 New
              +5
              But THIS everything got into your phone itself?

              By THIS do you mean software?
              Well, the software is created not by office plankton, but by highly professional specialists.
              And the question is that they are not going to retrain them in anyone, on the contrary, they are sorely lacking.
          2. Serhiodjan
            Serhiodjan 12 January 2018 22: 46 New
            +3
            And who will carry out bulk deliveries of goods? No, of course there is some truth in your words, for example, Amazon is now actively crushing its system of food retailers in America, but you know this can lead to a giant monopoly when all products go through one Internet platform with all the ensuing consequences. And yes, no one will replace my secretary, I'm sure of that :-)
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 13 January 2018 00: 06 New
              +5
              In addition to Amazon, there is e-bay, groupon and many many other sites.
              The question is posed correctly - the office as a place to wipe pants smoothly moves into automation and information systems. Because of what there are "extra" people.
              Not even in production, of course, but the required amount of “manpower” is decreasing.
              But the layer of IT specialists serving the sphere of informatization is growing. But alas, in IT there isn’t enough space for all the "extra" ones. For objective reasons - the capacity of the market itself and, excuse me, did not go “snout”, i.e. education, intelligence, etc.
              So the days of office plankton, alas, by and large, are numbered. Well, perhaps the secretary will turn out to be very beautiful and skillful :-)
              1. kytx
                kytx 13 January 2018 03: 06 New
                +2
                The demand for IT-shnikov is also not growing, a lot can be automated and solved remotely, now everything is either formatted or, on the contrary, a very narrow and specialized solution,
                1. bk316
                  bk316 14 January 2018 12: 29 New
                  +5
                  Demand for IT takers is also not increasing, a lot can be automated and solved remotely, now

                  And what is remotely? Those IT people, only you don’t know them in person and it seems to you that they are not there. Get used to the fact that the world is changing and becoming not what it looks like.

                  So the demand for IT is very growing.
              2. Alf
                Alf 13 January 2018 17: 30 New
                +2
                Quote: Vlad.by
                and skillful :-)

                In what sense is it skilled? In that one?
                1. Vlad.by
                  Vlad.by 14 January 2018 02: 01 New
                  0
                  What did you think about? I'm talking about fax and coffee :-)
                  1. bk316
                    bk316 14 January 2018 12: 30 New
                    +3
                    I'm talking about fax and coffee :-)

                    Speaking of fax. We do not have more faxes in our office. Five thousand contractors are there, but no faxes. And accordingly, no one brings them or sends them.
                    1. Vlad.by
                      Vlad.by 15 January 2018 01: 10 New
                      +1
                      You are lucky. And my clients, all sorts of regional agro-industrial cooperation still continue to send sketches and details by fax ...
                      To fill such trouble on the keyboard, the file reader can’t cope, what errors to fix, what to re-enter. An accountant, an intelligent girl, already teaches obscene words. :-)
            2. bk316
              bk316 14 January 2018 12: 26 New
              +3
              but you know this can lead to a gigantic monopoly when all products go through one Internet platform with all the ensuing consequences

              Of course, this is inevitable. And at the same time, a huge number of jobs (logistics, document flow with partners) will also be reduced. Meet tomorrow.
          3. Morozyaka
            Morozyaka 13 January 2018 23: 34 New
            +2
            Trends in staff reductions and face-to-face automation. But all this is just a reduction in costs to reduce costs. He worked all his life in production, and now "office plankton." And, you know, if I just wipe my pants, then the production will be without orders, or raw materials, or without workers, and so on. I myself thought that they didn’t do anything in the office, but in the office you can oversleep for an hour and come to work later than planned and it will be an hour earlier than the start of working hours, while catching those who have been there for a long time .. And the guys at the factory - they handed over the shift and that’s it ...
            1. Vlad.by
              Vlad.by 14 January 2018 02: 06 New
              +2
              YES nobody argues that among the white-collar workers there are irreplaceable ones!
              I don’t know if you caught it, but I also saw how accounting for a hundred people calculates the salary at the plant. And now at the same factory there are only 8 accountants and as many planners. And cope.
            2. bk316
              bk316 14 January 2018 12: 37 New
              +3
              at the same time to catch at work those who have long been there

              You do not confuse office plankton and white-collar workers. The deficit of IT specialists, managers, analysts will only increase. Only they not office plankton.
      2. Dr_engie
        Dr_engie 12 January 2018 18: 57 New
        +8
        The meaning of the dollar at 30? Maybe in order to buy something imported at at least an adequate price?
        And in general, some kind of cotton article.
        1. MrK
          MrK 13 January 2018 00: 23 New
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          Quote: Dr_Engie
          And in general, some kind of cotton article.


          I completely agree. It was already somehow forgotten that before 2014 products were purchased abroad at 40 billion dollars. And last year, only 22 billion. We almost completely provide ourselves with products, the author claims. It is nonsense. We provide ourselves with chicken and percent 90% pork. And milk, and dairy products, and chemical sausage? And where do we buy seed material?
          In my opinion, the Zaputin toilet of patriotism is seething in the article. How are the choices on the nose. How much did the author receive from the campaign headquarters?
      3. Krabik
        Krabik 12 January 2018 19: 14 New
        +5
        Without plankton, whales would starve to death, and hard workers would sit at traffic lights and switch lamps manually%)
      4. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 12 January 2018 19: 45 New
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        Quote: yurasumy
        And what is the meaning of the dollar at 30?

        the author, they sent you a video!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 12 January 2018 21: 16 New
          +4
          You ask how many beggars we had in the early 2000s.
          1. sapporo1959
            sapporo1959 12 January 2018 21: 57 New
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            I don’t know how many beggars then, but now officially more than 20 million ... It’s a bit much for our country where there are already more billionaires than in America.
        2. Serhiodjan
          Serhiodjan 12 January 2018 22: 49 New
          +4
          This video is the dumb populism of a man who sees everything from his tiny bell tower. Soviet factories didn’t collapse because they wanted it so strongly upstairs, and certainly not by the wave of Putin’s hand, they collapsed because it was not competitive in market conditions. Here the strongest, yes wild, yes capitalism survives, but this is reality and there is nothing to blame for the salty sea.
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 13 January 2018 07: 24 New
            +8
            Quote: Serhiodjan
            they collapsed because they were not competitive in market conditions.

            depending on what to call market conditions. If the world market, then all of our enterprises are uncompetitive. With the exception of Rosatom. The article is just about the fact that in the conditions of authorship they would work. Just the name does not match the content. The task of the government is to preserve the domestic market, and not to develop competition with the West by launching foreign trade networks in the country on WTO terms.
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 15 January 2018 21: 19 New
            +3
            Forget the word competition.

            As a word leading away from reality.

            Competition is enmity and war. This is a struggle for survival in unequal conditions.

            There should not be competition within the enterprise, industry, country. There should not be hostility and fights.

            And there should be planning, distribution and contract.

            Any competition INSIDE, an economic unit, is minimally costly, maximum destructive.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 16 January 2018 21: 35 New
              0
              Quote: gladcu2
              Forget the word competition.

              If this is you to me, then I clarify: I am completely in solidarity with your position on competition within an economic unit. Where did you get it by the way?
        3. stivev
          stivev 16 January 2018 12: 38 New
          0
          Take a look: https://youtu.be/jkNE74ZNSJ8
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 16 January 2018 12: 54 New
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            Quote: stivev
            Take a look: https://youtu.be/jkNE74ZNSJ8

            Chatter!
      5. dSK
        dSK 13 January 2018 00: 01 New
        +5
        Hello Yuri!
        Quote: yurasumy
        "office plankton" is the surest definition of the "middle class", which is concentrated in large cities and which for the country completely uselessif you look.
        And Sergei Semenovich Sobyanin believes that 15 million "extra" people live in the province, and in large the city of Russia - the population is the most high performance . hi
        1. Alf
          Alf 13 January 2018 17: 35 New
          +4
          Quote: dsk
          and in the largest city in Russia, the population is the most productive.

          Correctly considers. Moscow really has the highest productivity population. It produces money from the air at the expense of the whole country.
      6. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 15 January 2018 15: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: yurasumy
        Just "office plankton" is the right definition for that "middle class", which is concentrated in large cities and which is absolutely useless for the country, if you look.

        Are fluent Ukrainian analysts in this category or will we make an exception for them? smile
      7. Petr1968
        Petr1968 15 January 2018 16: 46 New
        0
        Quote: yurasumy
        I think you're right, your “office plankton” really will be tight. Rather, it is already tight.

        And who is easier? Who has become richer? Worker at the factory ??)) And how much is his salary now ???
    3. bk316
      bk316 12 January 2018 15: 55 New
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      Hard workers and office plankton ...

      Fig yourself, you have defined the middle class.
      Oh well, I hope you're right. One of the tasks facing the Russian Federation is to force the production of something useful office plankton.
      And about 30 rubles per dollar, of course, it will not be and is not necessary. What for? It is necessary that the course does not affect anything at all.
      1. yehat
        yehat 12 January 2018 18: 33 New
        0
        the middle class is determined by social activity, based on income from labor,
        moreover, labor directly or indirectly related to the production of GDP (speculators, designers, students, etc. go through the woods).
        there is no other framework. It can be a miner or a sales manager.
        anyone!
        1. dSK
          dSK 12 January 2018 19: 55 New
          +3
          Hello Sergey!
          Quote: yehat
          labor directly or indirectly related to the production of GDP
          Yesterday Russian President Vladimir Putin said that now in Russia there is an acute shortage of trained specialists in working professions. Such words were voiced during his meeting with schoolchildren who wrote the best essays on the theme "Russia, looking to the future." According to the president, the line between different levels of training is almost erased today. “We are sorely lacking not just working hands, but well-trained specialists in working professions”- Putin said to the students. The President noted that the previous system of training workers is now not in demand and needs to be seriously updated. Concerning the Russian authorities are going to organize a large training system, noted the president. Restore a vocational school system? hi
          1. Alf
            Alf 12 January 2018 21: 57 New
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            Quote: dsk
            Yesterday, Russian President Vladimir Putin said that now in Russia there is an acute shortage of trained specialists in working professions.

            What does he turn on again not smart? Just saw now?
            Quote: dsk
            needs a major upgrade. In this regard, the Russian authorities are going to organize a large training system, the president said. Restore a vocational school system?

            Learn to pay SALARY, not unemployment benefits and youth themselves trample on the factories.
          2. yehat
            yehat 13 January 2018 02: 20 New
            +6
            production in the ass, and in the ass due to government conditions
            therefore, experts do not prepare there. people are stupid, but not all the same morons
            try to go where they will not poison bad conditions all their life
            in St. Petersburg in the production of salaries is not rare 25-40 TR
            and in offices try to find less than 35. here it is the truth of life!
      2. Dr_engie
        Dr_engie 12 January 2018 18: 58 New
        +4
        He can not influence anything, because no one will sell the same computer to you abroad.
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 12 January 2018 20: 12 New
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          Do not buy a computer abroad. If possible, localize production in Russia. Those 5-10% of components that are produced in our country, for various reasons, it is impossible or not advisable to compensate for tax benefits. Ultimately, dependence on foreign currencies is minimized
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 13 January 2018 09: 25 New
            +3
            Quote: Chertt
            Those 5-10% of components that are produced in our country, for various reasons, it is impossible or not advisable to compensate for tax benefits.

            Where in our country is 90% of the cost of a computer made ?? winked wassat I have never heard of domestic processors, controllers and boards. And this is exactly 90% of the cost of a computer. If tax privileges are introduced for these products, NEVER production of computer components will be established.
            If I’m wrong, I will readily change my mind, after worthy arguments.
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 13 January 2018 09: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: aybolyt678
              If I’m wrong, I will readily change my mind, after worthy arguments.

              Computers were cited as an example. And% are generally taken conditionally, since there are no such statistics or they are very vague. We were talking about the “decoupling” of the Russian economy from the global economy, but I agree with processors and boards, this is a problem. Now it is being decided by the military-industrial complex and there is hope that from the military, it will go into the civilian sphere
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 13 January 2018 11: 15 New
                +5
                Quote: Chertt
                Now the military-industrial complex is deciding it and there is hope

                In Soviet times, the piece production of some things, for example, I had a rescue boat, technologically overtook the West. And strong. The problem was with diversity. Therefore:
                the military-industrial complex will never solve the problem of consumer goods (consumer goods); this can only be solved by restrictive measures on import imports and executions of corrupt customs officers with border guards.
                1. Chertt
                  Chertt 13 January 2018 11: 32 New
                  +2
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  the military-industrial complex will never solve the consumer goods problem (consumer goods)

                  I agree that there are very few such examples, (Germany and Japan after WW2) But Russia has its own way, and yet I do not completely exclude this. Maybe in the form of a symbiosis of the military-industrial complex and the citizen
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  this is solved only by restrictive measures on import imports and executions of corrupt customs officers with border guards.

                  But in this I do not fully believe. Import is limited in order to help their products. In Russia, however, competitive products must first be created. Obviously speaking, having prohibited Foreign cars, we will help the domestic auto industry, but not horse-drawn vehicles.
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 13 January 2018 12: 20 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Chertt
                    It is dangerous to say

                    Is it clear - is it figurative or overview ?? then, if I understood your point correctly, banning foreign cars will we still help horse-drawn transport? You are obviously confused. The next nuance: I do not propose banning foreign cars, I say that for any technologically complex import, protective duties are needed that stimulate the desire of citizens who have money to arrange the production of such products (with the help of the state, of course, the same duties). Without firing measures, in relation to the guardians of the borders, these same citizens who have money, without any production, will be delivered by echelons of these processors with phones.
                    1. Chertt
                      Chertt 13 January 2018 12: 37 New
                      +4
                      We can do without complex metaphors wink There is a large group of technologically sophisticated products, computer equipment, engine building, information transfer, space-rocket, etc. And how many do not stimulate the desire of citizens with money to establish the production of such products If the goal is set, taking one of the leading places, without the help of the state, this is not possible.
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 14 January 2018 19: 33 New
                  +2
                  Baikal-T1, Elbrus-8C, Elbrus-16C and Multiclet are developing their processors. We even produce smartphones, only their price is quite high, one civilian version costs 25000 rubles, industrial 69000. About the Baikal developer https://www.baikalelectronics.ru.
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 15 January 2018 08: 27 New
                    0
                    Thank you, Vadim. Only on the site I did not find a smartphone for 25. I want a Russian smartphone! tell me where?
              2. Vadim237
                Vadim237 14 January 2018 19: 19 New
                +2
                This is a problem for those who do not know that they are produced in Russia - for several years now.
            2. bk316
              bk316 14 January 2018 12: 40 New
              +3
              I have never heard of domestic processors, controllers and boards.

              Yes you are deaf. However, you need to see a doctor. But this is not the main thing.
              In fact, the proportion of iron in what you call a computer is much less than the proportion of software. All software is quite possible to produce in the country. Moreover, a lot is already being produced.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 14 January 2018 13: 37 New
                +1
                Quote: bk316
                Yes you are deaf. However, you need to see a doctor

                I don’t know how you feel about the environment? According to my observations, 90% of the software is hacked. Himself such and all friends are. By the way, every psycho considers himself normal, this also applies to you. Think about it.
                1. bk316
                  bk316 15 January 2018 13: 16 New
                  +1
                  To my observations, 90% of the software is hacked.

                  1C hacked?
                  Kaspersky hacked?
                  Client banks hacked?
                  Did you set the axis on the smartphone yourself?
            3. yehat
              yehat 16 January 2018 12: 21 New
              0
              yes what nafig boards? they can do cases, high-quality power supplies, mice, cooling systems and other stuffing - nothing complicated! And this is half the price of a computer!
              What prevents to make high-quality coolers for processors? silicon valley is not needed here.
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 16 January 2018 21: 38 New
                +1
                Quote: yehat
                What prevents to make high-quality coolers for processors? silicon valley is not needed here.

                here we need high-quality engineering and design thought and sensible work of technologists. We have destroyed this base.
          2. Petr1968
            Petr1968 15 January 2018 16: 47 New
            0
            Quote: Chertt
            Do not buy a computer abroad. If possible, localize production in Russia. Those 5-10% of components that are produced in our country, for various reasons, it is impossible or not advisable to compensate for tax benefits. Ultimately, dependence on foreign currencies is minimized

            And if our goods are good, but can I buy a good TV and a foreign car .. or is this not patriotic ??
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 15 January 2018 21: 53 New
              0
              Quote: Petr1968
              .or is it not patriotic ??

              The government was unpatriotic, which did not impose decent duties on imports.
      3. Morozyaka
        Morozyaka 13 January 2018 23: 46 New
        +4
        Well, you produced, as a worker, say a new super appliance. And to whom would you sell it without office plankton? Turner will run on potential customers? Well, suddenly a turner found a client - we need a contract. Will his main electrician sign? Well, let it be so - the client will even give the form of the contract ... His. And according to this form, you will climb into such bondage - already howl. A lawyer is needed. And then - bang - you need to accrue zp and pay taxes correctly and correctly set up financial accounting for the purchase of raw materials, etc. Oops, and an accountant is needed. And then: bam! And the computer for the CNC didn’t return - and the IT specialist turns out to be needed ... And so on ... Of course, everything can be outsourced, but for now the temporarily hired IT specialist will figure out where to ... And the terms of the contract signed according to the customer’s form are burning. And the factory runs the risk of getting fines, the profit lost by the customer and the factory risks closing. For this, it will proudly close - without plankton ... And financially responsible persons will still owe money to the new owner ...
        1. Alf
          Alf 14 January 2018 00: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: Morozyaka
          Well, you produced, as a worker, say a new super appliance

          Do not replace the concept. Technologist, programmer, accountant is one thing, and “office plankton” is a huge bunch of managers (when you need half or three times less to work), assistants, deputies, dog hairdressers, developers, it’s not clear what and other pencil-feeders-tail carriers. But from the disappearance of such, neither production nor the country will lose anything, it will only gain.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 14 January 2018 01: 05 New
            +7
            Quote: Alf
            "office plankton" is a huge bunch of managers

            In logistics? Sales and marketing? What specific “managers” did you ... annoy?
            Quote: Alf
            when you need half to three times less to work

            Um ... it so happened that I have long been working for "private traders".
            So here: not a single "capitalization", even the largest one, will keep the "extra" employees.
            Do you need to understand that "office plankton" is found only in state-owned enterprises?
            1. Morozyaka
              Morozyaka 14 January 2018 01: 12 New
              +2
              In any commercial organization in the first place profit, which depends on the cost. Therefore, they do not keep extra people introducing all available means of increasing efficiency. But on the state. I have a big question for institutions. There are very vague performance criteria there. And if comrade Alf about the state. Bodies, then I agree with him.
              1. gladcu2
                gladcu2 15 January 2018 21: 29 New
                0
                So.
                So that the economy is balanced. The government must severely control profits.
                Then there will be no crises of capitalism.

                And finally the middle class will appear.
            2. bk316
              bk316 14 January 2018 12: 54 New
              +2
              not a single "capitalism", even the largest, will keep "extra" employees

              Quote myself
              You can keep employees, you can kick them out and replace them with an automation system. The implementation of the system implies investment and a new style of work. In the first case, after amortization of investments, the profitability of the business will be lower. Accordingly, the employer will begin to reduce salaries, the best employees will leave, product quality will drop. The business will gradually bend.


              And do not argue, I am that same unknown factor that replaces people with programs. Each tiny project minus 50 people from the customer. And everything is big 200. And the work is sea, so that the "capitalization" really will not keep the extra employees, THEY JUST DO NOT KNOW HOW AND WHY TO REPLACE THEM.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 14 January 2018 13: 37 New
                +4
                Quote: bk316
                Each tiny project minus 50 people from the customer. And the big one is all 200

                Do not exaggerate anything? wink
                Or do you have Gazprom in your customers?
                Interest is not idle far, I am also a "factor", which, ahem, improves programs ...
                Full wahidan ERP, in short laughing
                1. bk316
                  bk316 15 January 2018 13: 08 New
                  +1
                  Or do you have Gazprom in your customers?

                  As you know, Gazprom does not like to work directly with him for this gasket - Gazprom Inform. There he is in the clients.
                  But strangely enough, the greatest effect in trading organizations (tape, Victoria).
                  And so yes, our ERP is everything.
            3. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 15 January 2018 15: 35 New
              +1
              Quote: Golovan Jack

              So here: not a single "capitalization", even the largest one, will keep the "extra" employees.
              Do you need to understand that "office plankton" is found only in state-owned enterprises?

              I used to think so too. Subsequently, it turned out that I was very wrong. laughing
          2. Petr1968
            Petr1968 15 January 2018 16: 51 New
            0
            Quote: Alf
            and “office plankton” is a huge bunch of managers (when you need half or three times less to work), assistants, deputies, dog hairdressers, developers, it’s not clear what and other pencil-feeders

            And who pays these people and for what ?? Or businessmen are stupid people who pay 10 managers for no reason, and even a good salary ?? A good manager costs 5 workers. Checked. Hard workers out for the 30 turn, and find a travel manager is a problem. As a department head, I know this well. Our country is lazy, no one wants to work when you need to solve hemorrhoids and problems every day. Everyone wants from 000 to 9 without answering for anything .. So this is not about managers.
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 15 January 2018 21: 34 New
              +1
              And who said that business owners are not smarter than their subordinates. They are SMARTER. After all, they select their staff for themselves. And God forbid, get to work with such a businessman-triple.

              Some brainless ones work there.
    4. zloybond
      zloybond 12 January 2018 21: 01 New
      13
      An ordinary mortal will deal with a kaleidoscope of events around Russian gold and foreign exchange reserves without 100 grams. difficult. ///// ....... in general, the smart type wrote .....
      But to the ordinary budget in general, much is not clear in the pricing and economic policy of Russia ... and in general - everything that is done is done against the ordinary mortal.
      For example .... they sang something there ... la la la about the fact that excise taxes would not affect fuel prices .... - said right away ...
      Then they sang that we would take a short way south on a new piece of iron and life would improve - of course - in theory, Ukraine no longer needs to pay ... there are no risks .... but instead the prices for tickets jumped to say the least ..... and right after the holidays specifically so ...
      ... or let's say tax .... well, if you have a privilege, for example, a veteran ... but if you didn’t come and write - even if they already have a mark on the availability of benefits - they will write out stubbornly in full ....
      .... building a road to the Crimea - and how many people have lost property as a result of this - because our property is not a holy right. They burned people in Rostov ... and then they deprived of land ..... they worked on the issue, so to speak .....
      And how many dead villages in the Kalym region will vote at one hundred percent turnout ??????
      And so everywhere ... in everything ......
      In Kubini, everyone is praying for a new Head .... Prompting, PR as fair ..... We drove to the Vityazevskaya Spit to relax - in the middle of the closed territory, a huge construction site is going on - they are sculpting without hesitation ... they dump the land with garbage ... and go. ...
      In the Kursk province, people squeeze the earth out of the land of the people so that even the prosecutor’s office and the police do not rock the boat - they say Moscow is in charge .....
      Farmers and private farms were forbidden to grow pork for execution - it is necessary to kill competition for agricultural complexes in the bud ....
      1. Giants
        Giants 12 January 2018 21: 49 New
        +7
        Personally, I agree with you 100%. But there is one character who is well versed in the varieties of manure (as I understand it is a special manure), his name is Golovan and he has a dog named Jack. Now he walks with her, then sits at the computer, and you will learn a lot about yourself.
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 January 2018 12: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: zloybond
        But much is not clear to the ordinary budget in the pricing and economic policy of Russia ..

        Everything is much simpler. Storaging is optional. Under Yeltsin, the question arose: how much money should I print? The consultants from Tan said: there is a system - the IMF, there is a Central Bank system, in civilized countries, you print as many ZolValReserves (i.e., dollars) you have. That is, the money was untied from production and tied to the exchange rate and the amount of dollar in the bins. Hence the lack of money and the lack of incentives for productive creative work.
        As for the villages in Kolyma, they have never been there. There is gold mining, there is a bulbous mining method - this is when only the center of the deposit is mined without cores. Roughly speaking, I ate a carrot and that’s it. After the bulb, it makes no sense to build infrastructure, housing.
        And about the Plague of pigs - all these conversations are complete crap. The agricultural complex can technically prevent the spread of the virus, and the private trader cannot. The agro-complexes are not to blame for the ASF, but the border guards. The plague in Poland, from there wagons, with pork, go to China, through Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan’s pork is unfolding in Kazakhstan and already goes to Russia
    5. KaPToC
      KaPToC 13 January 2018 00: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: Vard
      This banquet is again at the expense of the middle class ...

      But the state has no other sources of income. It is at the expense of those who work in production and live in the state.
    6. beeFrost
      beeFrost 13 January 2018 13: 57 New
      0
      So is the mortgage ....
  2. leonardo_1971
    leonardo_1971 12 January 2018 15: 10 New
    15
    I don’t know how poor he was and remained and the top is getting fatter. Only the people will breathe freely, will grow fat in their clap, and they will cut like a wild boar with all sorts of crises.
    1. Vard
      Vard 12 January 2018 15: 13 New
      +7
      Yeah .. About ten times before cowards undressed ...
    2. JIaIIoTb
      JIaIIoTb 12 January 2018 15: 24 New
      12
      Friday 15.10/XNUMX. You either work and write from work, then you are not poor, you just want more. Or you do not work and sit at home, but the poor computer most likely can not afford. And then you are most likely from that cohort called “not systemic opposition”. Here she (our opposition) I do not believe a penny.
      1. Dzmicer
        Dzmicer 12 January 2018 15: 46 New
        13
        NEED MORE WORK! FIRST REACH, AND THEN CRITICIZE !!! 1
        1. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 12 January 2018 15: 55 New
          +2
          If you wrote me this, then I did not quite understand the meaning of your post. Or are you also an "oppositionist"?
      2. yehat
        yehat 12 January 2018 18: 34 New
        +8
        poverty is a relative concept. I recently bought a car for half a million and consider myself a beggar laughing
      3. Dr_engie
        Dr_engie 12 January 2018 18: 59 New
        11
        That is, to work and get 12 thousand rubles - is this not poor? And who, excuse me?
        1. 97110
          97110 12 January 2018 20: 54 New
          +7
          Quote: Dr_Engie
          And who, excuse me?

          Worker
    3. bk316
      bk316 12 January 2018 15: 58 New
      +6
      I don’t know how was poor and remained

      Why so? Laziness? Other values? Disabled? Age?
      I don’t know other reasons ...
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 13 January 2018 06: 29 New
        +6
        Quote: bk316
        I don’t know how was poor and remained

        Why so? Laziness? Other values? Disabled? Age?
        I don’t know other reasons ...

        maybe you go to the hinterland, you will learn a lot of new things ... lack of work, the reason? Looted and destroyed factories is the reason? overgrown fields, the reason ???
        1. bk316
          bk316 15 January 2018 13: 19 New
          +1
          maybe you go to the outback, you will learn a lot of new things ...

          Change the training manual, boring girls.

          I just do all my free time that I go through the "outback". I have one (ONE CARL) native Muscovite in my department, the rest from the “outback”. Where are you from?
  3. 75 hammer
    75 hammer 12 January 2018 15: 14 New
    +6
    There are several controversial theses, but the article is an opinion of a person, not an analysis of research institutes, in general, if the Russian Federation will be less dependent on external factors, but more on the well-being of its people, then I think this is the right way! If you look at our history, then all the defeats brought us internal betrayal!
    1. AA17
      AA17 12 January 2018 16: 36 New
      +9
      Dear, Hammer 75. There are many controversial theses. Looking at the graph, I have not increased optimism. The price of oil has collapsed (see chart) by almost half and with it collapsed GDP. I am not going to deny that enterprises are not being built in the country. But their number is too small for a country like Russia. At such a pace, we will not be able to catch up with the advanced countries.
      "... for oil and gas in this regard, the role of a source of financing a big leap has been spelled out. ... And the Russian economy is actually restarting with the money received from this today .." - the author. Unfortunately, a very small part of the money goes to restart the economy. The rest of it disappears. Here are the facts:
      1. "... The increase in oil prices to maximums over 2 years increased the inflow of oil and gas revenues to Russia, but the currency received in the country almost completely left the Russian Federation in the form of capital export by the private sector. In January-September (2017 - AA17) income Russia's exports grew by 28%, the flow of petrodollars accelerated by almost a third. As a result, the third quarter, contrary to forecasts, the Russian economy ended up with a positive current account balance, the Central Bank of the Russian Federation reported ... For 9 months, the net inflow of foreign currency to the Russian Federation reached 26,6 , $ 73 billion is 21% more than a year ago, but at the same time, the outflow of private capital began to grow even faster. By the cumulative result, by the beginning of October it had doubled and reached $ 40 billion. From the monthly statistics of the Central Bank it follows that almost 8,9% of this amount - $ XNUMX billion - left the country in September, says chief economist at Alfa Bank Natalya Orlova .... "
      2. Money allocated for the development of INDUSTRY: "... Additional state support for key industries of the country in 2017 will amount to 107,5 billion rubles, including more than 60 billion rubles will be allocated to the auto industry, said Russian Minister of Industry and Trade Denis Manturov in during a meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin ...).
      3. Money allocated for the development of the BANKING SECTOR: "... 3,2 trillion rubles has been spent by the state on saving banks since 2014. This was assessed by the international rating agency Fitch. The money came in the form of direct capital injections, issued to bankers for recovery other troubled banks ... That the money poured into the banking system tends to dissolve without a trace, Tatyana Golikova, head of the Accounts Chamber, said at a State Duma meeting last December that she said that out of 32 banks that received state assistance, only half recorded the actual increase in capital, every second bank lost all the allocated money, and only 4% spent it on stated goals - lending to priority projects in the economy, although the money allocated to bankers was specifically for lending to organizations of priority sectors of the economy and there is an approved list of such priority sectors, and an obligation has been established to increase the corresponding loan portfolio by at least 1% per month . But 84,2% of the money received from the state was invested by banks to replenish working capital and only 4,3% to lend to investment projects, T. Golikova calculated. ... "
      1. Manitoo
        Manitoo 12 January 2018 18: 19 New
        +3
        The schedule is incorrect, the GDP had to be presented in rubles or, to the edge, if you want in dollars, then at PPP, and not at face value, then it would be much clearer!
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 January 2018 11: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: AA17
        Money allocated for the development of the BANKING SECTOR: "... 3,2 trillion rubles.

        Much more money has been allocated for the development of the banking sector than for production ... But they are not producers of banks, they only redistribute cash flows. Money is born when something material is produced, or the accumulated and transported energy is produced.
        AUCHAN, IKEA, MERLIN and others .. a huge number of huge stores show how our production is growing and where the money is leaving the country. An occupation.
      3. 75 hammer
        75 hammer 15 January 2018 09: 05 New
        0
        I did not want to go into polemics on this article, because it would not be possible to conduct a comprehensive analysis using only the schedule for linking GDP with oil prices. Do not forget that the ruble depreciated in 2014 and the jump in inflation indicators is not taken into account. And I don’t want to talk about what some Banks did in 2014 at the direction of the government, this topic is worth discussing at Valdai! Now to the article: the author expresses hope. that despite the internal contradictions in the system of state administration and the Russian Federation, internal "chakras" will open and we will be able to live our own way! I want to believe it too!
      4. yehat
        yehat 16 January 2018 12: 25 New
        0
        the price of oil is rising. in the coming year, forecasts of 60-70 per barrel of our oil and this is a comfortable price. The government has NO financial problems, the budget surplus is expected to exceed 20%.
        The dynamics of GDP recently showed local, but plus about 1 percent (due to the pumping of the money supply, which is so lacking). This alone is enough to have a comfortable growth !!!
        If in 2018 there will be no growth of 5% of GDP, the government just needs to be shot in its entirety, as pests and apologists for the genocide of the people.
  4. Plate
    Plate 12 January 2018 15: 23 New
    +5
    That's right, our future belongs to authorship. At least at this stage of human development. We have enough resources for the production of almost everything. And if you recover within the borders of the USSR or the Russian Empire (without Tyva’s return), then in general, for sure, there will be a fundamental possibility to provide yourself with EVERYTHING: food (yes, even bananas and tangerines), goods, developments ... If you order it correctly.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2018 11: 03 New
      +1
      The right to authorship still needs to be won. Stalin won this right in the Second World War. Where are we ??
      1. Plate
        Plate 14 January 2018 17: 54 New
        +1
        I think we can still use that right. Well, or as a last resort to survive a series of local conflicts. Because of this, no one will arrange a global war. Their cities will be more expensive than our lack of copyright.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 15 January 2018 08: 41 New
          0
          who are "we"? Which of our statesmen will fight with supermarkets and foreign trading networks? which party has such an item? there is noise from outside of Crimea, but if we nationalize retail chains? they will probably start sponsoring the Caucasus again, and other nasty things
          1. Plate
            Plate 15 January 2018 13: 54 New
            +1
            If they wanted and could, they would already have begun sponsoring. I agree that if real economic self-sufficiency begins, pressure on the sore spots will increase, but fortunately we already have experience in counteracting this. I see no reason to fight supermarkets, just transfer them to the control of domestic companies. Even if it’s private. In this situation, the main thing is that ours, controlled by our compatriots (if you decide to betray, you can permanently snail).
            Now the answer to your first question. Who are we? I, you, we ... citizens of Russia, if you want.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 15 January 2018 21: 59 New
              +1
              Dear plate ++ to you. only me, you, they, citizens of Russia - do not have power, but quite the opposite. In addition, EVERYBODIES having power, teach children abroad, have real estate accounts ?? they just won’t do this but will sing songs about the world market. Need an ideology with legal force.
              1. Plate
                Plate 16 January 2018 14: 22 New
                +1
                And I did not say that we all have power here. I answered, as far as I understand, the question of who can exercise the right to copyright. But yes, without a filing from above, this is unlikely to happen. I agree, we need an ideology. But it is necessary not only to say, for example, “Now we have a socialist state”, but to write down the essence of ideology in official documents that it guarantees and so on. That its revision required a revision of official documents. And I want to add that no matter what ideology, accounts from abroad cannot be returned. If denyuzhki flowed there, then that's it. Perhaps this is a departure from the topic, but by the way.
  5. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 12 January 2018 15: 44 New
    20
    Yuri well done! Even the current government did not think of manipulating meanings! But you are doing a good deed, filling your people’s lips with glorification of Putin and power! Continue on. wink
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 12 January 2018 17: 04 New
      20
      Quote: andrej-shironov
      Even the current government did not think of manipulating meanings! But you are doing a good deed, filling your people’s lips with glorification of Putin and power! Continue on.

      Your koment here is the most robust! good
      It is not clear what sources the author uses, but apparently this is the very bolt that the litter-TV put into his ear. laughing
      If we take into account that the share of the Russian Federation in world GDP fell from 3 to 1,7%, then there are no grounds for screaming from happiness.
      But the picture with Stalin must be present so that Valya’s grandmother feels the continuity
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 12 January 2018 17: 15 New
        15
        Dear Stroporez, thanks! The video is just super! It always surprised me how little people from the people know the words but how subtly they feel the situation! Unfortunately, Putin is not able to go down in history; he can only get into it.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 12 January 2018 17: 52 New
          11
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          Unfortunately, Putin is not able to go down in history; he can only get into it.

          It will certainly go down in history, only with the sign “anti”, well, the Antichrist, for example, and a little later ... an unambiguous sticker for spittoon in public restrooms.
  6. Dzmicer
    Dzmicer 12 January 2018 15: 44 New
    20
    What kind of authorship can we talk about if mechanical engineering is absent as a class?
    In Russia, there is a process of degradation and simplification of the economy in all sectors, and the end, the very mythical "bottom", is not visible to this process.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2018 12: 47 New
      +1
      Quote: Dzmicer
      In Russia, there is a process of degradation and simplification of the economy in all sectors,

      well formulated +++ And what to do then? what measures are needed? Real? Have you ever led a team, a person over 20 in the state structure? Except for Stalin, I don’t see anyone at the helm.
      1. sabotage
        sabotage 15 January 2018 08: 27 New
        +1
        Let me guide you. I'll tell you a secret: there is no magic. 20 people are divided into 3 departments and forward. The goals are determined, the goals are divided into tasks, the necessary resources are determined, based on the possibilities, the dates for completing the tasks and achieving the goals are indicated, responsible, key control indicators are determined and forward for the orders. And the commander is looking for additional resources, changes personnel and coordinates the work of departments.
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 16 January 2018 21: 50 New
          0
          Quote: sabotage
          I'll tell you a secret: there is no magic

          You have a very good nickname. and now, in accordance with your nickname, after target designation, sabotage begins, someone whose positions are strong in the team, and who aimed at your place, rallies a group of people around him and starts Baiting, you! Coordinated.
          I mean that for the post of head of a group of people in a state-owned enterprise, you need to go a long time to own the situation. And leading the state is much more difficult. At the same time, the role of the sovereign is to prevent the "Elite" from snickering so that it can fulfill its "title" and be capable of self-sacrifice. We do not have this.
  7. Greenwood
    Greenwood 12 January 2018 15: 52 New
    23
    It is strange to hear this from the lips of the opposition, who just put the country in the 90s on this very needle.
    The author confuses concepts. The opposition is not the current government; therefore, it can’t put a country on anything.
    they destroyed a significant part of the Soviet high-tech potential, which the current government is struggling to restore today
    Ahahaha. The current government is the successor to the authorities of the 90s, essentially the same people. Author, want to say that you do not know this ?! It is unclear why the Yeltsin’s government of the 90s and the current Putin’s are put on the opposite sides of the barricades by the author, when Yeltsin personally appointed Putin as his successor (with the approval of the oligarchic elite), and now Putin and Medvedev are opening monuments and Yeltsin centers, and at the same time awarded Gorbachev and other "prominent" Russian figures.
    And yes, by the way. What kind of recovery is there tryndit author. This is FANO chtoli, from which the whole Academy of Sciences howls - restoration of potential. They bureaucratized the system to complete coma, scientists write angry letters to Putin that they are being prevented from working. This is now called the restoration of high technology potential ?!
    Author, stop licking the fifth point of the current government. Looks disgusting, honestly. The current government and its activities are a direct continuation of the comprador-liberal fraternity of the 90s. And do not hang noodles on your ears.
    1. would
      would 12 January 2018 16: 28 New
      +1
      The author confuses concepts. The opposition is not the current government; therefore, it can’t put a country on anything.


      It seems to me rather pulling an owl on a globe. In my opinion, it was understood that some of the modern opposition were in the government of the 90s. That is true, but to put it mildly, not all opposition.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 12 January 2018 17: 43 New
        +8
        Quote: rait
        That is true, but to put it mildly, not all opposition.
        10% no more. And all the rest are the same joyful faces, only they change positions.
      2. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 January 2018 12: 51 New
        0
        Quote: rait
        It seems to me rather pulling an owl on a globe.

        the opposition is a hidden lobby that is part of the Duma, the government, the Central Bank, and others. It has powerful support and funding from Big Money, ours and Aliens.
    2. midivan
      midivan 12 January 2018 16: 56 New
      +8
      Quote: Greenwood
      It is strange to hear this from the lips of the opposition, who just put the country in the 90s on this very needle.
      The author confuses concepts. The opposition is not the current government; therefore, it can’t put a country on anything.

      The author wanted to say that the current opposition was the current government in the 90s. And judging by how you perceive the information, I would not listen to you about the situation in the Academy of Sciences. And to be honest, this academy wouldn’t hurt to understand itself, otherwise it doesn’t look very good from the outside, how smart people behave worse than girls with low social responsibility, I’m telling you like a regular mechanic because I don’t understand “How did the smartest people get cornered?” Can they be this, they’re not so smart, or ...... that, traitors and loafers? Not all, but the majority. request
      1. Tsoy
        Tsoy 12 January 2018 17: 23 New
        +4
        Quote: midivan
        The author wanted to say that the current oppositionists were the current government in 90x.


        They were, but their merit is not in the oil and gas needle. They simply destroyed everything else except the industry of the subsoil suction. 100 bucks a barrel is no longer with them, and the fact that the proceeds were not directed to the development of other areas is not their merit. This is already the current thanks worth saying.
        1. midivan
          midivan 12 January 2018 17: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: Choi
          They simply destroyed everything else except the subsurface suction industry.

          You forgot to add that they took control of the subsoil industry and, in order to direct the proceeds (tax collection), they also had to take it away, and few people wanted to share it, remember, for example, Yukos.
      2. Greenwood
        Greenwood 12 January 2018 17: 41 New
        12
        Quote: midivan
        the current opposition and were in the 90s the current government.
        Several people like Nemtsov or Kasyanov were moved away from the feeder, so they were offended by the authorities? And most are the same people. And the author exposes everything as if in the 90s there was a radically different power in the country.
        Quote: midivan
        it wouldn’t hurt this academy to understand itself, otherwise it doesn’t look very good from the outside, how smart people behave worse than girls with low social responsibility
        I have a bunch of friends in the RAS working. And these very cleverest people (unlike the State Duma’s clubheads) wouldn’t be indignant and wouldn’t write letters if they hadn’t constantly visited the RAS with the purpose of taking away real estate, occupied space, cutting funding, optimizing, reducing staff, reassigning to some kind of left sharagami like FANO, where the next mediocre bureaucrats are sitting, do not know anything in science, but receive fabulous salaries that even academics did not dream of.
        Quote: midivan
        How were the smartest people cornered? Can they be this, they’re not so smart, or ...... that, traitors and loafers? Not all, but most
        Just as our worthless power pushed everyone else into a corner. You suspect scientists of betrayal, but like the author of the article, you begin to shield the powerful. Not ashamed?
        1. midivan
          midivan 12 January 2018 18: 43 New
          +5
          Quote: Greenwood
          Several people like Nemtsov or Kasyanov were moved away from the feeder, so they were offended by the authorities?

          smile Let me ask, what is your profession? For it’s scary to listen to you, and in addition to a few people, you absolutely do not want to remember that in the 90s cities “Ruleys” were boys from the brotherhood, by the way, even in closed ones, I don’t even remember such bigwigs as Berezovsky and a lover of big yachts and this is from famous .
          Quote: Greenwood
          And the author exposes everything as if in the 90s there was a radically different power in the country.

          You know, and I also think so, for me it was a radically different government under which you could easily be shot from the Kalash on the street, just because you were on the line of fire request something like this, there will be time to sit down and remember how it was and compare, and then (for yourself) figure out how to clean it all up without a war inside, and you had to clean it from a street rubbish to the very top, and to make it easier to understand, watch the videos (if you’ll already find of course) Kadyrov’s “appearances” in the 90s and now, compare and estimate that you, for example, would do this and how and for how long.
          Quote: Greenwood
          I have a bunch of friends in the RAS working. And these very cleverest people (unlike the State Duma’s clubheads) wouldn’t be indignant and wouldn’t write letters if they hadn’t constantly visited the Russian Academy of Sciences with the aim of taking away real estate, occupied space, cutting funding, optimizing

          Quote: Greenwood
          Just as our worthless power pushed everyone else into a corner. You suspect scientists of betrayal, but like the author of the article, you begin to shield the powerful. Not ashamed?

          It’s not a shame, I always thought, perhaps of course because of my shortsightedness, that an intelligent person cannot be driven into a corner, but here is the Academician! fire me Who should be the pillar of the president? Who should stand at the foundation of the country? And why are there Chubais, Obzyvy, and where are our smartest people, those who are really the Elite? What are they doing, why were they replaced by scoundrels and rotenbergs? And to make it clearer for you,
          I still suspect Nicholas II of betrayal, because he allowed the death of his family and homeland and does not cause me pity and respect, but how and why the second is for me.
          1. Greenwood
            Greenwood 14 January 2018 10: 58 New
            +2
            Quote: midivan
            Let me ask, what is your profession?
            Information technology, computer networks, administration, that's all ...
            Quote: midivan
            I don’t even remember such bigwigs as Berezovsky and a lover of large yachts, and this is one of the famous.
            I remember Berezovsky was one of the supporters of Putin's nomination as a successor to Yeltsin. As for lovers of large yachts, the owner of the world's largest yacht Alisher Usmanov is an active supporter of Putin. He has a bunch of state awards.
            Quote: midivan
            do not want to remember that in the 90s
            I’m tired of every first "patriot" to hear that Putin is a worthy candidate only because "in the 90s it was even worse" and "the West does not like Putin." At the same time, the fact that oil prices have risen significantly compared to the 90s is exactly right along with Putin's rise to power, you do not carefully notice. Just as you don’t notice the fact that, for example, in the former republics of the USSR, the standard of living in the zeros also significantly improved compared to the 90s, and after all, almost all the presidents there remained the same from the beginning of the 90s.
            Quote: midivan
            You know, and I also think so, for me it was a radically different government under which you could easily be shot from the Kalash on the street, just because you were on the line of fire like this, there will be time to sit down and remember how it was and compare, and then (for yourself) figure out how to clean it all up without a war inside, but you had to clean it from street rubbish to the very top, and to make it easier to understand, watch the videos (if you already find of course) of Kadyrov’s “appearances” in the 90s and now, compare and Estimate that you for example did for this and how and for how long.
            In Primorye, gang warfare was the norm in the mid-zero, then what?
            Quote: midivan
            but the academician! fire me Who should be the pillar of the president? Who should stand at the foundation of the country?
            Provided that the president will support science. And now they only put pressure on science and drive it into conditions under which it is impossible to work and conduct research activities. There are almost no young people in the same RAS, some pensioners have been married. Salaries are low. There is no security. But there is a FANO, which can “competently” administer, redirect financial flows and generally tell scientists how to work.
            Quote: midivan
            And why are there Chubais, Obyzy

            Quote: midivan
            scumbags and rothenbergs?
            And because it was precisely these people that the president brought to himself. You ask him these questions. Why did he surround himself with a bunch of thieves, corrupt officials, populists and outright traitors ?! He trusts them to them leading positions in all sectors of the economy. It is their work, "he is satisfied." But the endless appeals of Kapitsa or of the same Alferov, now 400 people have written a letter, all this will again be left without attention.
            Quote: midivan
            And to make it clearer for you, I still suspect Nicholas II of betrayal, because he allowed the death of his family and homeland and does not cause me pity and respect, but how and why the second is for me.
            I am not a supporter of Nicholas II and consider him a very weak statesman who did not know how to conduct either domestic or foreign policy. But, the weakness and incompetence of Nicholas II as a statesman, which eventually led to problems in the economy, is still not a synonym for intentional betrayal for the sake of third parties. Carrying an equal sign between these concepts, you only show the narrowness and stereotypedness of your thinking. Hence the phrases like “The West doesn’t like Putin, that means Putin is good,” “they don’t change horses at the crossing, so let's leave Putin for life presidency,” “it was even worse in the 2s, so let's not change anything.”
      3. would
        would 13 January 2018 15: 49 New
        +1
        The author wanted to say that the current oppositionists were the current government in 90x.


        Bulk? Maxim Katz who was born in 84? Sergey Udaltsov? wink
    3. vlad007
      vlad007 12 January 2018 20: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Greenwood
      What kind of recovery is there tryndit author. This is FANO chtoli, from which the whole Academy of Sciences howls - restoration of potential.


      Academicians may be whining from FANO, but grandmas, 100 tr receive the title of academician. If they didn’t like something, they would have taken and left the Academy of Sciences. It’s time for them all to retire, and not to AN.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 13 January 2018 12: 58 New
        0
        Quote: vlad007
        Academicians may be whining from FANO, but grandmas, 100 tr receive the title of academician.

        100 tyrov is less than 2000 dollars. which is commensurate with unemployment benefits in the United States. The problem of science is not at all in this. Science, this lady is in the service of money. Money is the blood of the economy. They are born when a real item intended for exchange is produced - a product or energy that can be transported and stored. Do we have nuclear power? and science is not there. What about the economy? she is not there.
        Soviet science was less funded, but credibility was earned through openness, authors published their ideas in magazines, seminars, etc. Western - it is closed, if you come up with something, look for a sponsor and don’t give out secrets that Western science has been greatly inhibited. The article is correctly called, but the topic is not disclosed, the authorship is usually obtained only through war. Do you think the West will let it liquidate its Supermarkets? Wars they are not only for resources, they are also for markets
        1. vlad007
          vlad007 16 January 2018 11: 36 New
          0
          Quote: aybolyt678
          100 tyrov is less than 2000 dollars. which is commensurate with unemployment benefits in the United States. The problem of science is not at all in this.

          In Russia, 100 tyrov is good money. And how much do American academics get for the title? I think nothing. Feel the difference!
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 16 January 2018 14: 59 New
            0
            Normally they get. We have a candidate for + 15%, doctors + 25%. Amers have approximately the same, but only for work on the profile
    4. KaPToC
      KaPToC 13 January 2018 00: 36 New
      +1
      Quote: Greenwood
      Ahahaha. The current government is the successor to the authorities of the 90s, essentially the same people.

      This is a little bit wrong. In the nineties, the oligarchs ruled the country, and now - the siloviki.
      Quote: Greenwood
      Author, stop licking the fifth point of the current government.

      Lick looks even nastier
      Quote: Greenwood
      fifth point
      the current American government.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 14 January 2018 11: 07 New
        +1
        Quote: KaPToC
        In the nineties, the oligarchs ruled the country, and now - the siloviki.
        And how do you distinguish security officials from oligarchs? Sechin silovik? What about Miller? What about Kudrin? Or Siluanov?
        Quote: KaPToC
        Lick looks even nastier

        Quote: KaPToC
        the current American government.
        Criticism of the current Russian government is not American worship, ok?
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 14 January 2018 11: 37 New
          +1
          Quote: Greenwood
          And how do you distinguish security officials from oligarchs? Sechin silovik? What about Miller? What about Kudrin? Or Siluanov?

          There is no clear border; the world is not divided into black and white. But there are still differences.
          Quote: Greenwood
          Criticism of the current Russian government is not American worship, ok?

          Your criticism is more like market abuse than constructive dialogue. That’s why all these attempts of yours about licking something there?
  8. mihey
    mihey 12 January 2018 15: 58 New
    +1
    Authorship is a really useful thing. Comparison with China is not entirely clear to me. Despite the fact that they give us dollars / euros for our resources, and they DO NOT sell technologies for dollars / euros, the Chinese methods impress me very much: take what is “good”, disassemble and copy. Another thing is not clear: the purchase of American securities (no return on them, and they can be frozen) - is that a distraction or something?
    1. vlad007
      vlad007 12 January 2018 16: 50 New
      +5
      Quote: mihey
      Another thing is not clear: the purchase of American securities (no return on them, and they can be frozen) - is that a distraction or something?


      Good question! Indeed, it is not clear why the state, instead of building factories, invests in US debt. I have only one answer - THEY (the state) do not want to increase the share of the public sector in the economy, because it is a RETURN to SOCIALISM, and they do not want a return to socialism. They are WAITING for INVESTORS who will come and build everything for them, produce products, sell them, make a profit, send part of the profit to offshore companies and pay some to the budget in the form of taxes.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2018 13: 06 New
      0
      Quote: mihey
      Another thing is not clear: the purchase of American securities (no return on them, and they can be frozen) - is that a distraction or something?

      This is a fee for the ability to use American technology. Copying seems to be simple, but as far as I know, today the Chinese have not been able to copy the processor for phones and computers. Assembly lines at automobile plants - American. etc.
  9. groks
    groks 12 January 2018 16: 03 New
    18
    Election campaign. Without connection with reality.
    Neither complete nor partial “closure” is possible until industry and agriculture are restored. And no one needs this in the country's leadership.
    The author cited the schedule very in vain. And Stalin dragged himself in vain. It can be seen from the graph that the GDP (whatever that is understood) strictly follows the price of oil. But Stalin does not like our leadership, which already eats with difficulty.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 12 January 2018 17: 06 New
      12
      Quote: groks
      Election campaign. Without connection with reality.

      And completely crazy.
  10. vlad007
    vlad007 12 January 2018 16: 09 New
    10
    1. How the reserve fund was formed (when it was): oil is budgeted at a certain price, in 2017 and 18 it is 40 dollars per barrel, but oil has a current price, suppose 53 dollars. per barrel, and so the DIFFERENCE between the current price and the budgeted price is automatically transferred to the reserve fund - this is called the budget rule. The average annual price of oil in 2017 according to the Ministry of Finance 53,03 dollars. per barrel. Where did 13 dollars go from each barrel? They were listed in the National Foundation. Welfare, which for today, if not mistaken, 4,5 trillion. rubles - this is more than 30% of the revenue of the federal budget (16,5 trillion). Simply put, DO NOT DRIVE A WAVE; there is more than enough money in the budget!
    2. The tale of the oil needle came up with shit! Our trouble is not that about half of our budgets are hydrocarbon revenues, but in the fact that we have a very low percentage of OIL and GAS REFINING, we drive crude oil through pipes, not of very high quality - Urals, it is cheaper than Brent at about 2 dollars per barrel. Each dollar in oil prices brings about 2 billion dollars to the budget.
    3. HUGE (almost Europe’s largest) oil and gas refineries are being built, it’s too lazy to list ALL. For example, natural gas will be processed at the Sakhalin-2 plant, to the extent that helium is extracted from it and Russia can become the second producer of this important raw material in the World, after Qatar. Could still list examples.
    “Less Foam” (quote from the movie “Foundling” with the great F. Ranevskaya), more specific information.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 12 January 2018 17: 11 New
      +7
      Quote: vlad007
      Where did $ 13 go from each barrel? They were listed in the National Foundation. The welfare, which today, if not mistaken, 4,5 trillion. rubles - this is more than 30% of the federal budget revenue (16,5 trillion). Simply put, DO NOT DRIVE A WAVE; there is more than enough money in the budget!

      Is that not funny for you? Understand first where these babosiks have gone.
      Quote: vlad007
      “Less Foam” (quote from the movie “Foundling” with the great F. Ranevskaya), more specific information.

    2. groks
      groks 12 January 2018 18: 34 New
      +4
      1. Why pickle them at all, helping a potential adversary?
      2.-3. I have not heard of gas pipelines. Not the fact that the Europeans will succeed in driving gasoline, and even if it succeeds, it will be profitable. I mean, it’s beneficial to someone other than the oligarchs. We will also drive helium to our “partners,” how are we driving gas now? At the same time, the Michelsons will privatize profits, and we will pay extra - at least someone took it?
      4-1001 Gasoline will definitely rise in price! This is 146%.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 12 January 2018 21: 19 New
        +1
        Of course it is profitable to drive - Russia has the cheapest gasoline in Europe.
        1. Korax71
          Korax71 13 January 2018 02: 26 New
          +1
          Yes, only Russian gasoline is tied to both the dollar and world prices for oil. Oil is getting more expensive in the world, gas is getting more expensive in Russia. Oil is getting cheaper in the world - gas is getting more expensive in Russia. When the Voltaic plant opens in Kaluga, 5 years I drove fuel for the first refueling of a car from abroad, because under their demand fuel in Russia did not fit. This is by the way about quality. Any refinery modernization always affects the price of fuel, it is growing steadily. That's really not the right country called Honduras.
    3. rice
      rice 12 January 2018 20: 33 New
      0
      Quote: vlad007
      more specific information

      A little in addition: Gas processing as one of the alternatives to the "oil needle" http://geoenergetics.ru/2017/10/02/gazopererabotk
      a-kak-odna-iz-alternativ-neftyanoj-igly /
      Quote: groks
      We will also drive helium to our “partners,” how are we driving gas now?

      Well, you can buy it yourself for personal use.
    4. Nehist
      Nehist 13 January 2018 10: 27 New
      +3
      Do not tell me resident of Sakhalin !!! Especially about what Helium will produce. All !!! For those who do not understand ALL GAS IS EXPORTED. No one here to recycle and do not intend to
    5. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2018 13: 09 New
      0
      Quote: vlad007
      HUGE (almost the largest in Europe) oil and gas processing plants are under construction now, too lazy to list ALL

      Please tell me something is being built in Siberia, Omsk region?
  11. Galleon
    Galleon 12 January 2018 16: 20 New
    27
    Autarky? under liberal Putin? Who only dared to take the export duty, and not nationalize the income from the export of natural resources? The author, you do not bring order to the absurdity of economic policy, you develop it and strike another blow to fragile brains. You need on TV - you are a propagandist on a wide scale.
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  13. vadsonen
    vadsonen 12 January 2018 16: 38 New
    10
    It is enough to look at just one chart ...... And this just indicates that already from that moment the results of a systemic restructuring of the Russian economy became noticeable.

    Further, this nonsense can not be read. From the graph, the direct dependence of GDP on oil is just visible. All fluctuations are statistical noise and other factors.
  14. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 12 January 2018 16: 39 New
    11
    To begin with, let Vova amend the Constitution of the Russian Federation regarding ownership of the subsoil, then the Central Bank law, removing it from the control of the Rothschilds, and then we'll see .. bully
    1. AUL
      AUL 12 January 2018 18: 38 New
      +5
      But who will allow it to him?
  15. turbris
    turbris 12 January 2018 16: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: Dzmicer
    In Russia, there is a process of degradation and simplification of the economy in all sectors, and the end, the very mythical "bottom", is not visible to this process.

    Most of all, I like people like you, "alarmists," on what basis do you draw such conclusions? And most importantly, it is useless to prove anything to you, you will again compare the USSR with Russia and do not want to hear anything else. The main evidence is that in some town the former machine-building plant of the USSR was closed and on this fact you draw conclusions about the whole of Russia. And about the fact that this factory privatized the collective, and then the hard workers sold their vouchers for a bottle of vodka to one wretched huckster, who then sold all the machines for scrap and was such as you are silent.
    1. groks
      groks 12 January 2018 18: 52 New
      +8
      1. Not in one town. In all towns. Starting from the capital city.
      2. The team at that time had nothing to eat.
      3. Where does such an ardent love for oligarchs come from?
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2018 13: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: turbris
      and then the hard workers sold their vouchers for a bottle of vodka

      I waited a long time to attach the voucher. The crime of this scam is that outside the law, there was no mechanism for acquiring shares for ordinary people.
  16. shura7782
    shura7782 12 January 2018 16: 50 New
    +9
    Russia's big economic breakthrough: autocracy is inevitable
    For the first part of the proposal, I do not see any prerequisites for optimism. For a breakthrough, new jobs are needed, but they are not there and are not expected. Muscovites bought everything we can from us, and then in good faith they all went bankrupt. Now huge warehouses are being converted into warehouses for commissioning. there is not enough mind for more. The second part of the proposal is the most real for many years.
    Refuel today. The price of diesel fuel is horror flying on the wings of the night. Our oil is about to run out.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 January 2018 21: 21 New
      0
      "New jobs are needed for the breakthrough, but they are not there and no one is expected." Well, on your part, they are definitely not expected, but on our part, it is expected.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 12 January 2018 21: 51 New
        +3
        I am very happy for you and for your side. If it’s no secret where this promised land is, what would strive for the best. You probably have a great governor, it works for people, creates jobs for workers, and everything else.
    2. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 13 January 2018 13: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: shura7782
      The second part of the proposal is the most real for many years.

      unfinished sentence. Yes, and the thought is crude. But I see that the author did not modify the author. It is very difficult and almost unrealistic.
      1. shura7782
        shura7782 13 January 2018 16: 30 New
        +1
        Yes, it turned out nasty. sad
  17. Shkodnick
    Shkodnick 12 January 2018 17: 38 New
    +4
    There is only one place for ordinary people, a positive difference in price settles in the pockets of shuvalov, siluanov and the like, and we will rejoice at the 20-square-meter booth taken out of the mortgage. As long as the government goes against the targets set by the GDP, there will be no good.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 12 January 2018 20: 54 New
      10
      Quote: Shkodnick
      As long as the government goes against the goals set by the GDP, good will not be good.

      Why, then, will he not disperse these saboteurs? Agree that having the title of Lift-Up, Savior, Genius of multi-paths, etc., GDP should have a government, and not a government, have a GDP. Or will you argue that GDP is like Dodon in Chisinau? Or maybe it’s easier: we remove the pink pince-nez and read Putin’s Russian on white, “I’m satisfied with the work of the government.”
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 12 January 2018 21: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: Karabin
        Russian on white ...

        ... once again I remind you: politics is the art of the possible.
        Sapienti sat yes
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 12 January 2018 21: 11 New
          +9
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          politics is the art of the possible.

          I agree. But where does the GDP and its satisfaction with the liberal government? Or GDP - Dodon?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 12 January 2018 21: 13 New
            +6
            Quote: Karabin
            But where does the GDP ...

            GDP is not omnipotent.
            Moreover, the Lord God Himself is not omnipotent.
            Can God create a stone that he himself cannot lift?

            We think Carbine... think yes
            1. Karabin
              Karabin 12 January 2018 21: 37 New
              10
              No, I can understand a lot, but Putin and the Lord are too much.
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Think Carabiner ... Think

              About what? About how a good king bad boyars 18 years old stick in the wheel stick? Or how will the good king defeat them in the next 6 years of his presidency?
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 12 January 2018 22: 57 New
                +7
                Quote: Karabin
                Putin and the Lord are overkill

                Distort dearly?
                Bad gambler of you, Carbine... too transparent.
                I did not compare GDP with Gd. I just noted that both ... are not omnipotent wink
                So clearer?
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Think Carabiner ... Think

                Quote: Karabin
                About what?

                About life. It is much more complicated than the model you are here ... drawing request
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 13 January 2018 13: 16 New
                0
                Quote: Karabin
                boyars 18 years old stick in wheels pop?

                or these sticks to the boyars, in the form of stakes ??
            2. dSK
              dSK 13 January 2018 01: 15 New
              +3
              Hello Roman!
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Can God create a stone that he himself cannot lift
              The Holy Fathers say - "maybe this is the free will of man." hi
      2. Shkodnick
        Shkodnick 12 January 2018 21: 47 New
        +1
        I would like it better, but unfortunately your thesis has more rights to life, but hope dies last, despite 18 years of expectations in improving the lives of the people.
  18. 82т11
    82т11 12 January 2018 17: 55 New
    +7
    Quote: mihey
    Authorship is a really useful thing. Comparison with China is not entirely clear to me. Despite the fact that they give us dollars / euros for our resources, and they DO NOT sell technologies for dollars / euros, the Chinese methods impress me very much: take what is “good”, disassemble and copy. Another thing is not clear: the purchase of American securities (no return on them, and they can be frozen) - is that a distraction or something?


    No, this is the weakness of Putin, who left people at the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank who think how to fill their pocket and flee abroad. So while they tell us which Ministry of Finance is good, it stopped inflation by taking away free money from the country's economy for economic development.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 12 January 2018 20: 56 New
      +4
      Quote: 82т11
      No, this is the weakness of Putin who left people in the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank

      Is it weakness?
  19. Overlock
    Overlock 12 January 2018 17: 58 New
    13
    This is an analyst from Putin’s campaign headquarters. He gives a graph with two curves that are almost parallel and claims that this is not so.
    1. True
      True 12 January 2018 18: 48 New
      11
      In general, it is not clear who IT is designed for. On preschoolers. Or in Olgino such an opinion about us Russians?
      P.S. Komenty is deleted, but I'm insistent: the author-uprant!
      1. groks
        groks 12 January 2018 19: 07 New
        +9
        The author was given money. We determined the direction. The author believes that the money was not enough, so he wrote garbage. But in any case, the author has not yet reached anti-Sovietism, proving the advantages of the current state system of our country, as did, for example, a St. Petersburg Jewish Satanist.
  20. captain
    captain 12 January 2018 18: 39 New
    +2
    What's the saying? We survived the abundance, we will survive and hunger. For all our history we have always been frightened, scared and hated. They fought against us, created alliances, pulled us into various alliances, conducted different experiments on us, but we survived and I hope we will survive further. I do not remember which of the great said; Russia will always come for its own.
  21. demo
    demo 12 January 2018 18: 58 New
    +2
    What a handsome man. This is Krasnopol.

    Already sorry for the barmaley spend.
    Oh well.
  22. groks
    groks 12 January 2018 19: 04 New
    +9
    1. Looking at such topics, one could (!) Conclude that the users of this site would definitely not vote for Putin. It would be highlighted because there is no one to vote for anymore.
    2. The author probably does not know that in some circles, the word “jerk” has a somewhat unexpected (for the author) meaning. And the "economic breakthrough" ....
    1. Sergey Cojocari
      Sergey Cojocari 12 January 2018 20: 44 New
      +3
      +100500 to your comment!
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 January 2018 21: 25 New
      +2
      And even if they don’t vote for Putin, only the majority’s opinion outweighs the minority’s opinion.
  23. Alexy
    Alexy 12 January 2018 19: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    Dear Stroporez, thanks! The video is just super! It always surprised me how little people from the people know the words but how subtly they feel the situation! Unfortunately, Putin is not able to go down in history; he can only get into it.

    How can you seriously take the reasoning of this illiterate granny?
    You, by chance, the site was not mistaken ???
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 12 January 2018 20: 50 New
      +6
      You feed the troll yes
  24. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 12 January 2018 19: 40 New
    10
    Authorship is only possible if the liberal feeding of the 90s, including “Putin’s friends”, is completely removed from state funds.
    The best manager of the twentieth century, Comrade Stalin, understood best of all in friends, so his friends periodically went to the basement of the building of the Military Collegium of the Supreme Court)
  25. Curious
    Curious 12 January 2018 19: 41 New
    +5
    Actually, reading the articles of the site "analysts", the idea arises that it is time to introduce some kind of campaign section, "The Propaganda Tribune," for example. Well, finally, find analytics.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 12 January 2018 21: 04 New
      +4
      Quote: Curious
      the thought arises that it’s time to introduce some kind of propaganda section, “The Propaganda Tribune”,

      I propose to name the section "Owl and Globe".
  26. Deck
    Deck 12 January 2018 19: 44 New
    +4
    Quote: Plate
    We have enough resources for the production of almost everything.


    There is no main resource in the country - people educated and motivated for creative activity. In other words, there are no frames capable of creating added value.
    1. Antares
      Antares 14 January 2018 00: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Deck
      In other words, there are no frames capable of creating added value.

      need environment and momentum. True, for the Russian Federation this is not fast (due to historical reasons and upbringing), but it can be organized.
      However, the creation of this environment is the death of the current environment.
      1. Alf
        Alf 14 January 2018 00: 58 New
        0
        Quote: Antares
        True for the Russian Federation it is not fast (due to historical reasons and education)

        And here historical reasons and education? It is necessary to change the regime, the political system of the state.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 15 January 2018 21: 54 New
      0
      This added value has destroyed its ancestors.

      Since surplus value has taken away the resource for development.
  27. Sergey Cojocari
    Sergey Cojocari 12 January 2018 20: 51 New
    +7
    Bullshit, in this case, apparently gelding. WHOM, WHAT, AND WHAT ARE YOU? Experts have survived, is there the necessary equipment and technology, and are there any means for such a breakthrough ??? You gentlemen, there are only ever-promising President, Prime Minister, and Parliament ...
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 12 January 2018 21: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: Sergey Cojokar
      You gentlemen, there are only ever-promising President, Prime Minister, and Parliament ...

      You do not have this either.
      What is happening now in Moldova is very similar to a parody of what is happening now in the States.
      At the same time, the States are not threatened by the fact that Romania will eat them.
      1. Sergey Cojocari
        Sergey Cojocari 12 January 2018 21: 11 New
        +7
        Fine, Jack. Finely. I understand you. it is necessary to distract the people from their own problems with something, and now they are rolling out, the problem of the powerless Dodon in Moldova, or the always drunk Poroshenko in Ukraine. In the meantime, people are considering foreign presidents, they quietly dig at the pockets of the people.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 12 January 2018 21: 32 New
          +2
          If you want to live well, learn "spinning" - each creator of his own happiness and the state will not provide all of you - only you can provide all of you.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 15 January 2018 22: 11 New
            0
            Everyone wants to live in a company of friends, not enemies.

            Spinning, what's that?

            Take away, lure, bargain, compete with loved ones?
            And then let them just die?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 January 2018 21: 27 New
      +2
      We have always promising ones and those who create, construct, build and promote to the markets - they don’t talk about the latter, but they talk about the former constantly.
  28. zoomIZH
    zoomIZH 12 January 2018 21: 18 New
    +2
    Firstly, our country got on an oil needle in the mid-80s, and the sunset of the USSR partially happened because of this.
    Secondly, Russia certainly doesn’t get off the oil needle under Putin. Otherwise, why build Sabetta, Vankor, Force of Siberia, South and North streams. Just the same, preparations are underway to dominate the energy market with low production costs. So, no one is expecting super prices.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 15 January 2018 22: 18 New
      0
      This is a fairy tale told you about the oil needle and the USSR.

      The USSR was deeply spit on international integration. The USSR had a closed economy.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 15 January 2018 22: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: gladcu2
        The USSR had a closed economy

        Thu-yu-yuyuuuu negative
        Quote: gladcu2
        This is a fairy tale told you about the oil needle and the USSR

        Well yes, of course (s)
  29. Vasya Vassin
    Vasya Vassin 12 January 2018 21: 55 New
    +7
    Please explain this phrase to me
    they destroyed a significant part of the Soviet high-tech potential, which the current government is struggling to restore today
    Where, what and how exactly from the high technology potential is restored by the current government ???????
  30. SHAH
    SHAH 13 January 2018 09: 09 New
    +2
    [i] [/ i] Rising oil prices, falling or rising dollars are not the concepts for a country's development. Why only prices for
    raw materials determine the life of a once industrial power ?. Germany's export of industrial goods reaches 84% ​​of
    of all exports, to Japan, South Korea. even more if there were no natural wealth, Russia would die as a country.
    Even today she is dying, a poor people, there is no medicine, education, science, industry, the defense industry is a legacy
    USSR, but a lot of billionaires, corruption, dirt in the media.
    1. Magadan
      Magadan 13 January 2018 10: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: SHAH
      Why only prices for
      raw materials determine the life of a once industrial power?


      Because it is necessary. There the western master ordered. There is no other explanation. The liberal-pro-Western bloc steers the economy. Their friends oligarchs rule with them.
      And what about Putin? Yes, hell knows. I'm not interested anymore. We see the result, and this is the main thing: if super-incomes appear in Russia, then they go right into the dollar and Fed papers, where inflation safely eats them up there. Under the current regime, no one will invest this money in industry.
  31. Rostislav
    Rostislav 13 January 2018 10: 11 New
    0
    Article plus for the enthusiasm of the author and the correct spelling - "opposition", but in fact it is an attempt to pass off wishful thinking. In the absence of their machine tool industry and the ongoing investment in the securities of “friends” (in the presence of which there is no need for enemies), the picture does not seem so rosy.
  32. Magadan
    Magadan 13 January 2018 10: 35 New
    +2
    and whatever one may say, this kudrinomika will continue further.
    It would seem: you take these excess profits, print rubles on them and invest in production. For example, in the production of the same toilets, otherwise we still buy them in Korea. Or the same gas cylinders for the tiles, they also come to us from Korea. Yes, walk around the building shops yourself, you will see - everything is entirely from Poland, China, Korea. There are even Ukrainians. There is practically nothing Russian.
    But no: our valiant Ministry of Finance buys bucks again with all this money! They say this is necessary in order to avoid excessive strengthening of the ruble. This year, the purchase of bucks and their further investment in pieces of paper by the US Federal Reserve will be, according to the Ministry of Finance ... 18% of the budget !!!
    Here is the article: https://politexpert.net/86266-denezhnaya-stimulya
    ciya-ekonomiki-rossiya-zapustila-dollarovyi-pyles
    os? utm_source = finobzor.ru

    All the same, tell me, fiery United Russia - are you stupid people or traitors?
  33. contour
    contour 13 January 2018 10: 40 New
    +2
    Oil price, $ exchange rate and other crap. What is the article about, the author? 1/3 of Russia's foreign exchange reserves are in the IMF. Who is it controlled by?
    However, the author, you are right. Little knowledge is little sadness.
  34. Burst
    Burst 13 January 2018 14: 30 New
    +1
    I would not accelerate about the fact that Russia is getting off the oil and gas needle. Of course, it is worth noting the achievements of our industry, and more precisely, the military-industrial complex, nuclear industry, etc., but their share in exports is negligible. If we take the FCS data for 2017, then the share of hydrocarbons in exports amounted to 62%, and in 2017 already 70%. It is worth taking a look at the TOP Russian companies by income for 2017, then the income of the same Gazprom is 5 times higher than that of Rostec, I’m not talking about net profit, the difference is many times higher in favor of Gazprom. This is despite the fact that Gazprom is not the only oil and gas company and there are also such giants as Rosneft and Lukoil. Therefore, talking about slipping from an oil and gas needle is premature. Economic policy, including Central Bank policy, is still being formed based on oil prices.
  35. turbris
    turbris 13 January 2018 15: 15 New
    0
    Quote: mrark
    In my opinion, the Zaputin toilet of patriotism is seething in the article. How are the choices on the nose. How much did the author get from the election board Quote

    And you have neither patriotism, nor any kind of love for the country where you live - you are one of those - "everything is bad!"
  36. turbris
    turbris 13 January 2018 15: 24 New
    0
    Quote: bk316
    office plankton

    This expression was invented by those who really want to work in the office, but they didn’t get it, they didn’t have enough brains. Around the world, office workers get paid a lot of money not for sitting out in their trousers at the office, but for the result of their work being multi-million transactions and new directions in business development. Therefore, if you were not taken there, then work calmly in another place and do not need to be so frankly jealous.
  37. Penzyac
    Penzyac 13 January 2018 18: 53 New
    0
    Quote: Dr_Engie
    The meaning of the dollar at 30? Maybe in order to buy something imported at at least an adequate price? ...

    If domestic is better (and cheaper) than imported, who will need this import along with dollars? That's what you need to strive for, isn't it? ...
  38. Archon
    Archon 13 January 2018 19: 06 New
    +1
    Well these are the ideas of Juche! Only rely on your own strengths.
  39. _UMKA_68
    _UMKA_68 13 January 2018 21: 09 New
    +1
    That's from the actions of the Ministry of Finance, I scared terribly. He will now invest 3 billion rubles in US bonds. If for simple reasons, this means that the Ministry of Finance will buy American securities for the dollars earned from the sale of oil, that is, our oil dollars will be invested in the US economy instead of converting these dollars into rubles and investing in the development of YOUR economy. Understand these stocks when they grow in price, but they can also fall, that is, the money will burn out, or they will impose sanctions on which it will not be possible to sell these bonds and return the money to the country, and then quite 3.14zda! With these actions, the Ministry of Finance is detrimental not only to the ruble exchange rate, but also to the budget, where the oil price of 40 is always green. The difference of 30 bucks will be covered by us, and not money from the sale of oil at 70 bucks. And after this, Medvedev says "there is no money but you hold on." One question: for what purpose does the Ministry of Finance buy currency?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 January 2018 20: 01 New
      0
      Actually, 3,5 trillion rubles of additional funds from oil will go to the national welfare fund, and we will pay for increased excise taxes on gasoline.
  40. Thomas the Unbelieving
    Thomas the Unbelieving 14 January 2018 09: 10 New
    +2
    I read the comments with pleasure for the reason that I was once again convinced that there are still sane people in the country. Unfortunately, not always possessing sufficient information. I'll try to replenish it a bit. So:
    1. GDP is not an indicator of the state and development of the economy. It was composed by American economists in the late 20th century. To understand this, I recommend a book that was published by three large economists who worked on this problem on the instructions of President Sarkozy. It is on the internet in our language: Stiglitz, Sen, Firdoussi. "Misjudging our lives. Why GDP doesn't make sense." Gaidar Institute, M, 2016.
    2. We live in conditions of a small peaceful respite (see my text on the forum: World War III is impossible until the second imperialist war is over. Therefore, we must understand that our enemies are not just “adhering to double standards” - they are simply irreconcilable. Maybe our diplomats not everyone does great, but it’s good that they drag out the time we need to prepare for war (on the forum; who we are and where we are going.
    3. In reality, in our country there is no Central Bank whose task is to perform the functions of a lender of last resort, that is, organizations lending to the government and the banking system in the event of temporary difficulties. The current bureaucratic organization actually provides 96% of loans to foreign countries and firms, including and at the expense of the state budget, which are stored in the accounts of the Central Bank.
    4. Office plankton: This is not the problem. Our brains are powdered. There are two facts that prevent us from living. The first is that everywhere they impose intermediaries who are only able to fill their pockets. In health care, these are insurance companies, without which we have developed well preventive medicine, in science - FAN, in education - lyceums, etc.
    5. Export is not good for the country. More Mikoyan A.I. understood that real values ​​were being exported from the country in return for paper promises. It is not for nothing that in the balance of payments the export of goods and services is reflected in the loan, and the import in the debit of the account.
    6. We are silent about the fact that about $ 60 billion is annually exported from the country in the form of "investment income" (see the current account of the balance of payments).
    I will end here, although there is still much to be said. I wish my colleagues all the best in the new year and understanding that they should not change the girls, but prepare for the reconstruction of the brothel. which is called imperialism as the highest and last stage of capitalism.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 14 January 2018 20: 07 New
      0
      "We are silent about the fact that about $ 60 billion is annually exported from the country in the form of" investment income "(see the current account of the balance of payments)." This is the right of foreign investors and those who own these funds, taxes are paid from them - no one has the right to manage other people's money and indicate what to spend it on.
      1. Thomas the Unbelieving
        Thomas the Unbelieving 15 January 2018 08: 46 New
        +1
        Dear Vadim. It seems that you have found a very important aspect of our economic policy. It is the United States with its army and armaments that may suggest that if there is power, then the mind is not necessary. And we need both strength and mind. I do not want to particularly spread on this topic. But probably not in vain at the last meeting with American businessmen, Putin received their support. You have to pay for everything. I sometimes remember how St. Alexander Nevsky with Metropolitan Cyril defended our people. Germans, Swedes, Lithuanians were beaten mercilessly. And the Mongols paid tribute. It seems that this "investment income" is also a kind of tribute. It seems that the weakening of the ruble is one way to make us work better. Maybe I'm wrong, but politics is a delicate matter. There are many things that are completely incomprehensible. You will get to the bottom of the matter, then you begin to understand, and even then not completely.
        1. astepanov
          astepanov 15 January 2018 11: 14 New
          0
          Quote: Thomas the Unbeliever
          It seems that the weakening of the ruble is one way to make us work better.

          The trouble is that the weakening ruble is hitting those who are already sitting without money. Do not forget that Russia is primarily a province, and in the provinces often work for 10 tons. impossible to find per month. It would be much easier to introduce progressive taxation. And fairer. A dozen for Nabiulina and the nurse from the provincial hospital have a completely different weight.
    2. gladcu2
      gladcu2 15 January 2018 22: 47 New
      0
      You would have a way to replace this imperialism with something viable such as socialism .... Indicate.

      And the fact that this rot needs to be uprooted for a long time, even the Americans began to understand.
  41. astepanov
    astepanov 15 January 2018 11: 09 New
    0
    A comforting tale that everything is captured. In fact, the advertised rates of expected growth of as much as 2,5% per year mean that the gap is growing, since the global average economic growth rate is much higher. Why does Russia need laundries like Skolkovo and Rusnano, gluttonous, unprofitable and senseless, against the background of the collapse of the Academy of Sciences and the chronic financial hunger of branch science? Requires a process engineer. Salary of 11 thousand per month "- against the backdrop of office VIP salaries reaching millions? No," you can’t measure it with an arshin and you can’t understand it with your brain. "
  42. astepanov
    astepanov 15 January 2018 11: 21 New
    0
    Quote: Greenwood
    I have a bunch of friends in the RAS working. And these very cleverest people (unlike the State Duma’s clubheads) wouldn’t be indignant and wouldn’t write letters if they hadn’t constantly visited the RAS with the purpose of taking away real estate, occupied space, cutting funding, optimizing, reducing staff, reassigning to some kind of left sharagami like FANO, where the next mediocre bureaucrats are sitting, do not know anything in science, but receive fabulous salaries that even academics did not dream of.

    I support. The USSR Academy of Sciences was the most important structure and expert council of the highest qualifications, and the generator of new ideas, and a participant in the implementation of the most important economic and defense projects. The creation of atomic and missile weapons alone, of which nuclear energy is worth. Now the RAS has been reduced to a state of insignificance - because the people there are less inclined to divide and cut. Instead, the emphasis is on Skolkovo and Rusnano, expensive projects with zero exhaust.
  43. astepanov
    astepanov 15 January 2018 11: 26 New
    0
    Quote: turbris
    Quote: Dzmicer
    In Russia, there is a process of degradation and simplification of the economy in all sectors, and the end, the very mythical "bottom", is not visible to this process.

    Most of all, I like people like you, "alarmists," on what basis do you draw such conclusions? And most importantly, it is useless to prove anything to you, you will again compare the USSR with Russia and do not want to hear anything else. The main evidence is that in some town the former machine-building plant of the USSR was closed and on this fact you draw conclusions about the whole of Russia. And about the fact that this factory privatized the collective, and then the hard workers sold their vouchers for a bottle of vodka to one wretched huckster, who then sold all the machines for scrap and was such as you are silent.

    And you are silent about the fact that the inevitability of the sale of vouchers was originally laid down in the privatization scheme.
  44. Reklastik
    Reklastik 16 January 2018 06: 58 New
    +1
    The author famously interprets emissions on the chart, there is nothing to say))))
  45. parma
    parma 16 January 2018 07: 27 New
    +1
    No, I understand that elections are coming soon and it is necessary to indicate the direction of voting and all other things, but before you write something about the economy, you need to understand this economy itself .. And if you write about economic statistics, you also need to know statistics and mathematics. ...
    So for example: the relationship between oil prices and GDP, or rather 2 factors explaining this fact:
    1) Inertness (those changes in the price of oil do not affect every second, for example, a contract for the sale / purchase / performance of work was already signed a year ago, the money is set for the deadline today, respectively, even if the price of oil decreases, the growth will be)
    2) and of course the stub. fund...
    Regarding import substitution, where is it in the broad sense? that is, crumbs! Frankly (there are friends in the Ministry of Economic Development of the region), they are trying to allocate money for the construction of factories, for example, ceramic products (utensils), tourist infrastructure, but this is a penny in comparison with investments in some projects that no one needs, of a purely political nature (any exhibitions and other G, to which many participants come simply because they do not want to quarrel with the leadership of the region) ...
    Regarding taxes on petroleum products, who was in Abkhazia? Who was not, tell me, why is gas there 2 times cheaper than in Russia, despite the fact that the gas station is the same company with L at the beginning and end of the name? It’s kind of like a product with high added value, in Russia it should be cheaper (if it was produced in Russia) or at least not cheaper (if it’s still imported), then there’s one source of gasoline ...
    Regarding the opposition, I always thought that the collapsed post-Soviet economy of Russia is now in power, and not in the opposition (especially non-systemic) -Chubais, for example, seems to be like United Russia now ... And do we have this opposition in reality , but not for show?
    Unfortunately (but this is not only with us and not only now), the main task of those in power at all times is to be at the trough and for as long as possible, and not to let everyone live happily ... Hence foreign policy kickbacks (drive away the neighboring flock by ourselves so it’s barely enough), and domestic (to prevent a new flock from appearing), and it doesn’t matter whether we have communism, socialism or capitalism, democracy, dictatorship or even feudalism ...
  46. kunstkammer
    kunstkammer 16 January 2018 12: 42 New
    +1
    Thanks!!! I haven’t laughed like this for a long time! One thing only:
    knowledge-based capacity that the current government is struggling to restore today

    worth a lot !!!
    This is stronger than Faust Goethe !!! laughing
  47. yehat
    yehat 16 January 2018 12: 52 New
    0
    Authorship needs the size of an economy so that the costs of introducing mass production will pay off in most areas of the economy and that there will be normal specialization. Now the size of the economic sphere of the Russian Federation is about 3-4 times smaller than necessary.
  48. 1536
    1536 16 January 2018 14: 34 New
    0
    We must start with demographics. We have 145 million people. In the USA - 360 million, in China 1500 (but not less than 500 million for sure). What other questions?
    Informatization and automation can and should save us from this demographic abyss, which was formed due to a series of revolutions. And there shouldn’t be any "extra" people, because even a competent cable must be installed by an installation specialist who thinks with his head. And as for trade, I would not worry where it is more pleasant to communicate with a lively pretty saleswoman, sorry, a sales manager who knows her goods, than with a soulless answering machine or a “thinking” machine.
    Do not forget about the creative sphere, where young people are striving more and more. Properly planted lawn under the windows, or an inexpensive picture, which no one else has, delight the eye. But it’s time to entrust oil and gas to machine guns for a long time. They get the lunar soil, driven to Earth. But the main thing is that there should be a middle ground everywhere.
    1. Stin 55
      Stin 55 19 January 2018 04: 31 New
      0
      Comrades! Extra people in Russia, by definition, should not be.
      This is to what extent it is necessary to bring the economy in the country, so that there would be millions of unemployed?
      Only by this "indicator" do you understand what mediocrity we have in the government and leadership (!).
      Look around and think about it - [b] [/ b] IN RUSSIA _ UNEMPLOYMENT, NONSENSE !!!
  49. looker-on
    looker-on 16 January 2018 23: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Quote: Petr1968
    .or is it not patriotic ??

    The government was unpatriotic, which did not impose decent duties on imports.

    Well, actually, we have not much worthy but protective duties. For cars, for example, that AvtoVAZ didn’t save and now it’s essentially Nissan Renault
  50. looker-on
    looker-on 16 January 2018 23: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: aybolyt678
    Quote: Petr1968
    .or is it not patriotic ??

    The government was unpatriotic, which did not impose decent duties on imports.

    Well, actually, many of our duties are not worthy of protective duties. For cars, for example, that AvtoVAZ didn’t save and now it’s essentially Nissan Renault