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The General Staff talked about the UAVs that attacked the objects of the Russian Federation in Syria

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UAVs that attacked Russian bases in Syria carried ammunition with explosives, which are produced in a number of states, including Ukraine, said the head of the construction and development department of the UAV of the General Staff, Alexander Novikov.


Preliminary studies have shown that PET as a base for explosive in ammunition, exceeding hexogen
Said the Major General.

The General Staff talked about the UAVs that attacked the objects of the Russian Federation in Syria


According to him, TEN is produced, in particular, at the Shostkin chemical reagent plant in Ukraine. This substance can not be made in artisanal conditions or extracted from other ammunition.

Now experts are trying to establish the country of manufacture.

Novikov added that every drone that participated in the attack on Khmeymim’s base carried ten ammunition.

These are improvised explosive devices weighing about 400 grams, equipped with striking elements in the form of metal balls with a radius of destruction of up to 50 meters
He pointed out.

The General Staff also noted that experts who had been trained in countries using UAV complexes participated in the creation of drones.
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  1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 11 January 2018 16: 48 New
    +1
    Already found a Ukrainian trace? It’s clear that the UAV and its control system are made of ram and sticks ... The whole question is different: what was behind the equipment for dropping bombs at pre-known coordinates and actually where did they get these coordinates exactly enough to drop a bomb
    1. Vanin
      Vanin 11 January 2018 16: 56 New
      20
      Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Already found a Ukrainian trace?

      And is anyone surprised ..? Ukraine I consider one of the main. who supplied ISIS weapons, etc. There are military depots, after the collapse of the USSR, they were crammed with all kinds of weapons and ammunition (10 years of serious military operations in Europe, etc. in the event of a world war) Now they say the depots are empty and the US begs for arms)
      1. Deniska999
        Deniska999 11 January 2018 16: 57 New
        13
        Is Ukraine a Sponsor of the IG? I have not seen a more ridiculous version. In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.
        1. allaykbar
          allaykbar 11 January 2018 17: 01 New
          15
          In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.


          what weapon is your own in bv? Everything from us and Ukraine with ex-brothers.

          also mattresses dokinili from above
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 11 January 2018 17: 55 New
            +5
            Quote: Deniska999
            Is Ukraine a Sponsor of the IG? I have not seen a more ridiculous version. In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.


            Yes?
            Exactly that in bulk.
            Where is it from?
            What else did they do besides fire extinguishers with explosives themselves?
            GPS modules, fuses?
            And who is talking about the sponsor?
            Ukraine itself is sponsored by ....... t

            Ukraine supplies weapons and components. Remember the story of how barmalei threatened to cut something off for someone in Ukraine for low-quality deliveries

            Perhaps deliveries are going through Ukraine, anyone can pay, at least the sponsor, even the barmaley themselves.
            Ukraine is a black hole, everything can be passed through it and you will not find the ends
          2. Hitrovan07
            Hitrovan07 13 January 2018 21: 53 New
            0
            Do not forget the Warsaw Pact.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 11 January 2018 17: 06 New
          13
          Quote: Deniska999
          Is Ukraine a Sponsor of the IG? I have not seen a more ridiculous version. In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.

          Barmalei and Banderlog have the same host-sponsor. The same thing happened in both Chechen wars.
          One thing is not clear to me. The Turks shot down our fighter, easily got off. And now, why didn’t an instant strike strike be taken at the starting point of the ersatz-Pepilians in Syria, and not Turkey, although controlled by the Turks? Such a strategy should be adopted and applied even if the next attack by the ersatz-pepilatsi is launched from the territory of the United States or Israel or another occupying country of Syria. The Syrian government did not invite Turks and the United States.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 11 January 2018 21: 37 New
            +8
            Quote: Balu
            I don’t understand one thing. The Turks shot down our fighter, easily got off. And now, why didn’t an instant strike strike be taken at the starting point of the ersatz-Pepilians in Syria, not Turkey, although controlled by the Turks? Such a strategy should be adopted and applied even if the next attack by the ersatz-pepilatsi is launched from the territory of the United States or Israel or another occupying country of Syria. The Syrian government did not invite Turks and the United States.
            What is not clear here? In both cases, the Americans are behind the attack, and their goal was to complicate relations between Russia and Turkey, both in the case of the aircraft, and in the case of drones that rose in the zone of responsibility of Turkey. And who was there to strike at, if those involved in the launch of drones have already been washed off? It will probably be more effective to strike not at the deserted positions in Ilib, but at American bases or forces under their control with the help of the same artisanal drones, "unclear" by whom and where they were sent from? As an alaverdi, so to speak.
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 12 January 2018 00: 34 New
              +2
              In both cases, the Americans are behind the attack, and their goal was to complicate relations between Russia and Turkey, both in the case of the aircraft, and in the case of drones that rose in the zone of responsibility of Turkey.

              I would add - in the case of drones, they solved a lot of tasks at the same time, and for any outcome. Their only miscalculation, and most likely their arrogance and "superiority" over any opponent, is their unwillingness to calculate the option with evidence. They were in complete confidence that not a single drone would be "alive" in their hands ... and then go and prove by the scraps of his hands.

              In a real battle, they tested the “swarm”, checked our defense system, took data from a reconnaissance aircraft, and “framed” the Turks. Minimum program completed. And in a very cheap way - expensive drones were not used. Where and with whom would they still practice in a real fight? In short - they helped us, and we them laughing
            2. Hitrovan07
              Hitrovan07 13 January 2018 21: 56 New
              0
              Turkey didn’t "answer" for the actions of its citizens - the military, and now they do not control the occupation zone - our military and diplomats have suddenly become so kind (haven’t they forgotten the murdered diplomat yet?).
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 13 January 2018 23: 17 New
                +2
                Quote: Hitrovan07
                Turkey did not "answer" for the actions of its citizens - military personnel,
                So, shortly after the incident, a bus with Turkish military personnel at the air base, including pilots, was blown up near the Ingerlik base. Something in the region of 20 people has rested. Why would you suddenly?
                Quote: Hitrovan07
                now the occupation zone is not controlled
                Something they control, something we ourselves manage. A group of nimble mortar bombers, which ended in shelling the base in Khmeimim, and a warehouse with the production of drones, which were intercepted by the electronic warfare and air defense forces of the Russian Federation in Syria, were destroyed at the copper copper. Do you think this wind blew such accurate information? Not. Surely ours worked together with the Syrians and Turks. Well, the fact that the Turks in Idlib province do not have time to track all the "sleeping" and "wandering" is not surprising ... not at home. You and in your one-bedroom apartment can’t control everything thoroughly, what can I say for the whole province of Idlib.
                Quote: Hitrovan07
                the diplomat of the murdered have not forgotten yet?
                No, they have not forgotten. The killer is destroyed. People involved in the murder are arrested. The investigation is ongoing. By the way, your kents from the USA found the murderers of diplomat John Christopher Stevenson in Libya? Forgot! How so...
        3. Labor
          Labor 11 January 2018 17: 09 New
          +2
          Ukraine is not a sponsor, just IG has money from oil and sponsors to buy weapons.
        4. vlad66
          vlad66 11 January 2018 17: 31 New
          +9
          Quote: Deniska999
          Is Ukraine a Sponsor of the IG? I have not seen a more ridiculous version. In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.

          Actually, Ukraine was one of the ten leading arms exporters, only the dust was traded in weapons left over from the USSR, and the summer cottages grew like mushrooms. fellow Yes, and ex-brothers from the former republics did not sell the USSR’s heritage too, so it’s not surprising that the Ukrainian TEN was found among the barmaley in Syria and can emerge in many more places, by the way, we also have a lot of general towers that have grown since 1990. hi
        5. Geisenberg
          Geisenberg 11 January 2018 19: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Deniska999
          Is Ukraine a Sponsor of the IG? I have not seen a more ridiculous version. In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.


          Considering who is in power there may be something else.
    2. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 11 January 2018 18: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
      The whole question is different: what was behind the equipment for dropping bombs at previously known coordinates and actually where did they get these coordinates exactly enough to drop a bomb

      as it turned out, the question is also explosive !!! request request
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 11 January 2018 16: 50 New
    11
    If our authorities continue to flirt with Bendery, it’s easy to wait for artisanal nuclear charges at our bases in Syria, and not only there! It would be time for the authorities to show their character by bringing Turchinov with Avakov in shackles and a block on his neck for questioning.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 16: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: Herkulesich
      having brought to Moscow for interrogation Turchinov with Avakov in shackles, and with a block on his neck.

      Sergey, everything is far from limited to these characters. See the root! wink
      The drones that attacked Russian bases in Syria carried ammunition with explosives, which are produced in a number of states, including Ukraine

      I won’t be surprised if banderlogs of all dill stripes start yelling out of all the irons that they delivered explosives to the barmaleys.
      1. Going
        Going 11 January 2018 16: 58 New
        +4
        They are with a bang, just let Russia fight.
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 17: 06 New
          +5
          To push such disgusting things - just spit. But a good thing to do - get the hell. Ushlopki! am
          1. Solomon Kane
            Solomon Kane 11 January 2018 18: 10 New
            +2
            Pasha, My fiery !!! hi
            I think that snot enough for political correctness to smear ....
            Fact on the face! It is necessary to raze the area from where they started, where the drones were collected .... wherever they were, like striped with a test tube from Iraq ....
            1. Vanin
              Vanin 11 January 2018 18: 32 New
              +5
              Quote: Solomon Kane
              It is necessary to raze the area from where they started, where the drones were collected ...

              And the meaning ..? Then the same designers will be taken to Damascus ..
              Who set, accompanied (production, etc.) They say the drones were of the highest quality in electronics and were accompanied by a satellite .... (I do not want to poke a finger in some ..)))
            2. bouncyhunter
              bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 19: 37 New
              +2
              Kostya, mutually! hi I tend to agree with a colleague Vanin : you need to strangle the nest, which is beyond the puddle. And barmaley how many souls - mattresses will buy new ones.
      2. LSA57
        LSA57 11 January 2018 19: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        I won’t be surprised if banderlogs of all dill stripes start yelling out of all the irons that they delivered explosives to the barmaleys.

        Pavel, how can you comment on this nonsense? Well, does he even imagine what it is to steal from the territory of a foreign state of two not the last people? people PR, or just knocking on the keys. and most of all Hollywood militants reviewed)))) Well, it's nonsense !!!!!
        1. bouncyhunter
          bouncyhunter 11 January 2018 19: 57 New
          +1
          Sergey, a man expressed his opinion - in response, I shared my vision of the issue. After all, for this we are all here and present: to share opinions and discuss. wink
          1. LSA57
            LSA57 11 January 2018 20: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: bouncyhunter
            Sergey, a man expressed his opinion - in response, I shared my vision of the issue. After all, for this we are all here and present: to share opinions and discuss.

            I envy you, you can’t read the nerves of iron.
    2. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 11 January 2018 17: 12 New
      +2
      Value proposition good
    3. LSA57
      LSA57 11 January 2018 19: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      having brought to Moscow for interrogation Turchinov with Avakov in shackles, and with a block on his neck.

      Well, just to press a button. Well, how do you imagine this ??????????????? This is not a bandit to remove from the Khaz !!!! at least it will be equated with the act of state terrorism !!!!
  3. Rusland
    Rusland 11 January 2018 16: 50 New
    10
    I think a lot is already known, as necessary and appropriate, it will be voiced and presented.
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 11 January 2018 19: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Rusland
      I think a lot is already known, as necessary and appropriate, it will be voiced and presented.


      for which I respect our MO - for the ability to pause. They gave time to all to pour out and belch, and then patiently and directly with sadistic pleasure set forth the facts. The organizers of the attack apparently did not expect that any evidence would fall into the hands of our specialists. According to some reports, the drones had a system of detonation in contact with the ground. Perhaps that’s why we “lost” 3 of 6 drones, which detonated
      Something is inaudible to comrades who, with foam at the mouth, proved that such drones can easily be bought and assembled.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 11 January 2018 20: 27 New
        +4
        And you can buy and assemble! Another question, who paid? No data.
        He taught who to hire, help from "friends" - no data.
        The management program is not applied, but you can buy - the data is foggy, there are no facts.
        The programmer is not an amateur - you can hire, buy, receive "friendly" help - no data.
        Weather data - you can find out on the general, you can get special, from friends - no data, there are specific suspicions.
        High precision coordinates - measure, no possibility. Buy - you can, no facts. To receive from "friends" is more likely, but there are no facts.
        Explosives - you can buy, you can get from "friends", the data is checked, but there are no facts yet.
        Here's the alignment .... what's wrong?
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 11 January 2018 20: 45 New
          +2
          Here's the alignment .... what's wrong?

          so you wrote it right yourself! wink This is not the same drone as we first tried “with foam” at the mouth, this is a whole complex of all of the things you listed, the main thing is to reach the target autonomously, defeat with high accuracy, and at night (!) statements available only to the military. Moreover, the Americans themselves acknowledge those generally accessible GPSs - they are inaccurate for the safety of their bases. hi
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 11 January 2018 22: 19 New
            +4
            The data is collected in pieces, everything was not immediately said, so people can be mistaken.
            It’s easier for me, I learned something from the outside, but from the rest I know from the former military and current civil service. Everything except explosives is not my topic.
            So from the very beginning he said the same thing.
            For one thing and now I can only guess at the expense of “friends” and sponsors ... a decent list.
            For the first place in the list I’m sure, and then leapfrog !!! But the facts, prints, checks and other bookkeeping, we hardly ever know ????
            1. iaroslav.mudryi
              iaroslav.mudryi 11 January 2018 23: 56 New
              +4
              Quote: rocket757
              But the facts, prints, checks and other bookkeeping, we hardly ever know ????


              Well, why, our president knows, the time will come and we will find out:
              Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the editors-in-chief of Russian publications in the editorial office of Komsomolskaya Pravda commented on a message about an attack on the Russian base of Khmeimim in Syria, which was launched by terrorists using unmanned aerial vehicles.

              "There were provocateurs, but not Turks. And we know who they are, we know how much and to whom they paid for this provocation"- said the Russian leader.

              He added that these provocations were designed to disrupt earlier agreements and to undermine Russia's relations with Turkey and Iran.

              “We understand this very well, therefore we will act in concert,” Putin stressed.

              He also said that the attack was well prepared.

              "We know when and where these unmanned vehicles were transmitted, how many. These aircraft are camouflaged - I want to emphasize this - camouflaged for artisanal production. In fact, there are obviously elements of a high-tech nature there, "he said.
              1. Yuyuka
                Yuyuka 12 January 2018 00: 15 New
                +2
                Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the editors-in-chief of Russian publications in the editorial office of Komsomolskaya Pravda commented on a message about an attack on the Russian base of Khmeimim in Syria, which was launched by terrorists using unmanned aerial vehicles.

                good Q.E.D! ours, as always, are "predictable" in the information struggle - they keep a slap in the face to the last
                1. rocket757
                  rocket757 12 January 2018 09: 33 New
                  +3
                  My cant, "father of his own" did not listen.
                  If his statement is true. (I’ll throw a coin, believe - do not believe), then praise our special services. perhaps cooperation with the allies is also real.
                  I’m ready to really believe in some issues, because his statement coincides with my own opinion.
                  Common sense + real information, we get a more or less real picture of events. You could be wrong, but the chance to get to the point is still greater.
                  There was a provocation - I believe.
                  Englishwoman + friends, comrades crap - I really believe.
                  The barmaley themselves could have done it, but simpler, for sure.
                  The special services of our "partners" helped the Barmalei - that's for sure.
                  But now let's see what the authorities will show in support of their words?
                  This is a question of trust in the authorities, and a question of respect for the authorities of their people, who delegated to it the right to govern on their own behalf !!!
                  No need to laugh, like a fantasy, let's see how events develop.
                  1. Yuyuka
                    Yuyuka 12 January 2018 11: 15 New
                    +1
                    But now let's see what the authorities will show in support of their words?
                    This is a question of trust in the authorities, and a question of respect for the authorities of their people, who delegated to it the right to govern on their own behalf !!!


                    here politics is largely involved - we can never know the whole truth request judging by the communication of the General Staff yesterday, agreements are possible. When the accident happened with Kursk, the CIA chief flew in urgently to us, then Russia received a multi-billion dollar loan ... because sometimes political expediency looks like a betrayal ... hi
                    1. rocket757
                      rocket757 12 January 2018 12: 02 New
                      +4
                      Yes, that’s understandable. The people, many. Of course I’m tired of the nonsense of understatement and want to hear not the half-hints but the truth! It does not happen anywhere and never, everyone is fed half the truth!
                      I have no illusions. But there is a limit to everything and many people want to throw noodles from their ears.
                      In principle, everything is clear to me and nothing special needs to be heard.
                      And so, well, they say that the explosives are not from brothers, so what?
                      1. Shahno
                        Shahno 12 January 2018 12: 06 New
                        0
                        Well, this is not the Jews, and not the states. And I don’t know who you got on your head there. Look for locals with a long tongue ....
                        Why are we doing such a bombless attack?
                      2. rocket757
                        rocket757 12 January 2018 12: 38 New
                        +3
                        Cool to the question Shahno His compatriots answered - bespontovoe attack to divert attention from the true goal! - so what are the twists of someone else's brain ??? at the psychiatrist!
                        We will figure it out for ourselves, for local conversations there are no sheep there for sure, but for technical reasons, I would NOT delete ANYONE from the list of likely "well-wishers" and you need to shorten the languages ​​from the first, according to the list !!!
                2. flicker
                  flicker 12 January 2018 16: 57 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Yuyuka
                  Russian President Vladimir Putin at a meeting with the editors-in-chief of Russian publications in the editorial office of Komsomolskaya Pravda commented on a message about an attack on the Russian base of Khmeimim in Syria, which was launched by terrorists using unmanned aerial vehicles.

                  good Q.E.D! ours, as always, are "predictable" in the information struggle - they keep a slap in the face to the last

                  The most important thing in this Syrian mess is ISIS, and it is defeated as a Project.
                  Once again, this point.
                  And what a slap in the face? The drones are liquidated, the sacramentals are established ... let them wait ... they will come for them - it is not yet evening.
                  1. iaroslav.mudryi
                    iaroslav.mudryi 12 January 2018 19: 00 New
                    +1
                    [quote = flickering] [quote = Yuyuka] [i] let them wait ... they will come for them - not yet evening. [/ quote]
                    Already arrived, did not have to wait long !!!
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 12 January 2018 22: 31 New
                      +2
                      Actually, it’s not yet evening, it was said figuratively wink
                      but it’s so much better good
                  2. Yuyuka
                    Yuyuka 12 January 2018 22: 21 New
                    0
                    And what a slap in the face? The drones are liquidated, the sacramentals are established ... let them wait ... they will come for them - it is not yet evening.

                    I meant this slap in the face (artne) ram - they did not immediately voice it all, looked at the reaction. winked some could not stand the nerves - "this is not us! this is not us!"
                    1. flicker
                      flicker 12 January 2018 22: 32 New
                      +2
                      winked in some nerves could not stand it

                      soldier soldier soldier
  4. sanches-nk
    sanches-nk 11 January 2018 16: 50 New
    +4
    A new era of terrorism and sabotage has come. This is just the beginning, apparently ...
    1. Vanin
      Vanin 11 January 2018 16: 59 New
      +6
      Quote: sanches-nk
      A new era of terrorism and sabotage has come. This is just the beginning, apparently ...

      They are testing new tactics in Russians ... the most vile and dangerous! Then they will test in Europe ..
      1. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 11 January 2018 18: 28 New
        0
        Quote: VANIN
        Quote: sanches-nk
        A new era of terrorism and sabotage has come. This is just the beginning, apparently ...

        They are testing new tactics in Russians ... the most vile and dangerous! Then they will test in Europe ..

        better let the owners of americos immediately demolish a couple of towers !!! request request request
    2. cannabis
      cannabis 11 January 2018 17: 42 New
      0
      Such a book is Captain Blood's Odyssey. About pirates and small sailboats stuffed with gunpowder, tar and straw. It was called a sailboat BRANDER and set off in the wind on the ships of the enemy. Nothing new than form. They read the whole article, but did not understand the main thing, although it sticks out in front of the nose. And this is good. There is no need to spread dangerous knowledge among civilians.
  5. NEXUS
    NEXUS 11 January 2018 16: 58 New
    10
    They will find a supplier and then what? Will they express concern? I’m thinking about what the United States would do to a single country if they did something like that with their base ... what’s the point? They waved a test tube at the UN with unknown and Iraq.
    Well, we are philanthropic ... we will reproach, express our concern and voice the whole world about human rights and inaction of the UN.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 11 January 2018 17: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      Well, we are philanthropic ... we will reproach, express our concern and voice the whole world about human rights and inaction of the UN.

      Zadolbala eternal concern already. How do you like a quadrocopter on an area with a kilo of RDX on a city day in any city? On the night of the 5th to the 6th, the world changed, and changed very much.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 11 January 2018 17: 12 New
        +8
        Quote: iliitch
        On the night of the 5th to the 6th, the world changed, and changed very much.

        And after the first such attack on Khmeimim I said, we train my Syrians, Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans and buy them mini drones with electrical tape ... and we drop all this happiness all over the world to mattress bases. It’s good that there are already 700 of them. And let them graft what they sow.
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 11 January 2018 17: 20 New
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          .and all this happiness all over the world we drop on mattress bases. Fortunately, there are already 700 of them. And let them graft what they sow.

          Dust bastards. Yankees - go home, squint there. negative
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 11 January 2018 17: 25 New
            +5
            Quote: iliitch
            Dust bastards. Yankees - go home, squint there.

            When they begin after that to bring in packs of mattresses of mattresses in mattresses home, then all this will stop, since they value their skins one by one thousand.
            And to appeal to the law and honesty is like talking about love with a gopnik, while he masters an extra hole in your head with a mount.
            1. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 11 January 2018 17: 33 New
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              they value their skins one at a thousand.
              And to appeal to the law and honesty is like talking about love with a gopnik, while he masters an extra hole in your head with a mount.

              The back hemisphere is the most expensive they have. That's where you need to kick, with a kirzach. Like, so let the self-nominee have a headache. But for jeans, I would give them a discount. What are we, animals, or what?
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 11 January 2018 17: 38 New
                +5
                Quote: iliitch
                But for jeans, I would give them a discount. What are we, animals, or what?

                For jeans and chewing gum, this rabble should be generally defined on the reservation with soft walls. How many people across the earth were led to this and then they didn’t remind me to bite my elbows, changing a peaceful, satisfying life to these empty candy wrappers of an allegedly happy life? Doesn’t this remind you of those smallpox infected bedspreads that were given to the Indians so friendly and sincerely?
                It's time to understand that we are the very Indians for mattresses. Or did the collapse of the USSR teach nothing so?
                1. iliitchitch
                  iliitchitch 11 January 2018 18: 06 New
                  +1
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Doesn’t this remind you of those smallpox infected bedspreads that were given to the Indians so friendly and sincerely?
                  It's time to understand that we are the very Indians for mattresses. Or did the collapse of the USSR teach nothing so?

                  It’s time? Understand? So I know from childhood that I don’t need to poke my nose. Something is wrong with you today, colleague, it seems that there have always been competent comments. I’m fucking clever enough on TV. hi . With IQ, like psaki.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 11 January 2018 18: 07 New
                    +3
                    Quote: iliitch
                    It’s time? Understand? So I know from childhood that I don’t need to poke my nose. Something is wrong with you today, colleague. I’m fucking clever enough on TV.

                    You then understand ... and even here on the forum there are citizens who still haven’t figured it out ... I’m talking about them. hi
        2. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 11 January 2018 19: 24 New
          0
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: iliitch
          On the night of the 5th to the 6th, the world changed, and changed very much.

          And after the first such attack on Khmeimim I said, we train my Syrians, Iraqis, Afghans, Libyans and buy them mini drones with electrical tape ... and we drop all this happiness all over the world to mattress bases. It’s good that there are already 700 of them. And let them graft what they sow.


          Well, why incur the anger of the entire "civilizational" community? what if...

          Urgent message from the Russian Ministry of Defense! Tonight, three drones intercepted by the Russian military were hijacked by the pilots of these drones. It turned out our programmers did not notice the bookmarks in the control system. Currently, the persecution is organized, our partners are warned of a possible attack of drones at their base.

          And five minutes later - unfortunately, we were late ... We offer our condolences ....
    2. shura7782
      shura7782 11 January 2018 19: 26 New
      +1
      Today I am very, very drone concerned. sad
  6. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 11 January 2018 17: 06 New
    +7
    Anyway, nobody will listen to evidence anyway - but here's a tough, unshuffled, unprovable (but clearly understandable to experts) answer - the slurred interested people will understand and wind up
    1. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 11 January 2018 18: 29 New
      0
      Quote: KVU-NSVD
      Anyway, nobody will listen to evidence anyway - but here's a tough, unshuffled, unprovable (but clearly understandable to experts) answer - the slurred interested people will understand and wind up

      Well, so the Syrian troops crumble right now everyone in the idlib regions !!! yes request request request
  7. activator
    activator 11 January 2018 17: 11 New
    +4
    And where is his bonboluk? or did he carry bonbs on the outside? what and how interesting they were dumped each separately or all at once. Damn about this kind of garbage, I vomited the fifth in a class on a mug and was put to shame, but it turns out it could fly up to 100km and carry ten bonobochek and also fly to the right place and bomb. laughing So I always knew that our circle leader was stupid, and I just got ahead of time. fellow
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 11 January 2018 17: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: activator
      And where is his bonboluk? or did he carry bonbs on the outside?

      What the hell is that mini drone for? Have you seen a tactical bomber in it? Stupidly dive on the target much easier and more reliable. Well, or some kind of simple holders who let go of the “gift” and it flies to the heads of soldiers who are not expecting anything.
      1. activator
        activator 11 January 2018 17: 26 New
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        What the hell is that mini drone for? Have you seen a tactical bomber in it?

        Well it was kind of a joke yes maybe the emoticon just chose a bad one.
        Quote: NEXUS
        Stupidly dive on the target much easier and more reliable.

        But in this case, it’s easier to have one bomb, and there are ten of them, and here the question arises of how they are dropped all at once or can it be taken separately, if separately it is rather difficult as I think, and plus we still have to go to a given point after flying 50 km . In general, such opportunities with such an appearance do not fit well.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 11 January 2018 19: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: activator
          Quote: NEXUS
          What the hell is that mini drone for? Have you seen a tactical bomber in it?

          Well it was kind of a joke yes maybe the emoticon just chose a bad one.
          Quote: NEXUS
          Stupidly dive on the target much easier and more reliable.

          But in this case, it’s easier to have one bomb, and there are ten of them, and here the question arises of how they are dropped all at once or can it be taken separately, if separately it is rather difficult as I think, and plus we still have to go to a given point after flying 50 km . In general, such opportunities with such an appearance do not fit well.


          looks are deceiving ... look at the MO briefing in detail. in short - the main thing, as it turned out to be the "brains" - the control system made it possible to bring the coordinates to the "point", and the design and control itself is really impressive if you look carefully. With the help of the camera, adjustments were made, and so they flew autonomously. In the tank, only half the fuel was consumed, as they said another 50 km remained. This is about the same series as our old unguided bombs turned into precise weapons. Mattresses also study, including ours. Syria is a training ground for everyone ... hi
          1. activator
            activator 11 January 2018 19: 54 New
            +1
            Quote: Yuyuka
            . In the tank, only half the fuel was consumed, as they said another 50 km remained. E

            That is, as I understand it, they should have bombed and will return. Well nifiga to yourself young technicians. As far as I know in Russia there are no such drones yet.
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 11 January 2018 20: 14 New
              +1
              Quote: activator
              Quote: Yuyuka
              . In the tank, only half the fuel was consumed, as they said another 50 km remained. E

              That is, as I understand it, they should have bombed and will return. Well nifiga to yourself young technicians. As far as I know in Russia there are no such drones yet.


              Yes, the president just announced details at the meeting - the drones were designed to drop bombs and return to the departure base. Moreover, the reset is in automatic mode, that is, the reset system is not knocked out on its knees, which would ensure an accurate hit in coordinates from the satellite. You can, of course, joke - they say that Russia does not have such drones. Yes, there are no "like" ones. There are some other repeat
              1. activator
                activator 11 January 2018 20: 23 New
                +1
                Quote: Yuyuka
                You can, of course, joke - they say that Russia does not have such drones.

                Yes, I’m just not joking, even if these drones are kept on scotch tape, but they can already be called shock with such capabilities, and here in Russia there are no drums as far as I know. But you could just buy it in the store.
                1. Yuyuka
                  Yuyuka 11 January 2018 20: 49 New
                  0
                  Quote: activator
                  Quote: Yuyuka
                  You can, of course, joke - they say that Russia does not have such drones.

                  Yes, I’m just not joking, even if these drones are kept on scotch tape, but they can already be called shock with such capabilities, and here in Russia there are no drums as far as I know. But you could just buy it in the store.


                  yeah .. about times, about morals! (c) I would add - oh, possibilities! unfortunately, the future is very annoying ... if earlier the possibility of mass destruction was the prerogative of the state, then today an extremely unpleasant tendency is emerging - one person can terrorize millions ... and all that’s necessary is the Internet, computer and the "genius" of a psycho ... hi
            2. Baloo
              Baloo 11 January 2018 21: 44 New
              +3
              Quote: activator
              That is, as I understand it, they should have bombed and will return

              Nope. These are disposable pepilats. But the hi-tech is that the bombs had to be put in specific places with long-distance delivery, where the standard control panel and telemetry might not work. Hence the throwing of Poseidon.
    2. sergei28
      sergei28 15 January 2018 08: 20 New
      0
      all at once, with the help of a servo, it is visible in the photo.
  8. Strips
    Strips 11 January 2018 17: 13 New
    0
    This substance cannot be made in artisanal conditions or removed from other ammunition.


    Firstly, it can be manufactured under certain conditions that terrorists can create.

    Secondly, they were used, for example, by Al Qaeda, in several attempts at terrorist attacks in American aircraft, etc.

    Thirdly, no one has abolished smuggling, and given the many places of production of this substance and the very many countries that could create it, such a statement does not hold water.
  9. Gardamir
    Gardamir 11 January 2018 17: 21 New
    +4
    How cleverly the arrows were translated. So why did you need a Krymnash, so that the enemy is always at hand. And there are someone to blame for their mistakes. Only when the Turks once again bring down our plane to Shostka you will not show.
  10. donavi49
    donavi49 11 January 2018 17: 29 New
    +4
    It is necessary MO to drop new facts. Today. Failak's offensive on Abu Dali. Used armored vehicles Nexter Panthera F9. You cannot find them in the civilian market. There are in Turkey. In France. In the UAE.

    1. Alexander War
      Alexander War 11 January 2018 17: 32 New
      0
      Facts, yes, you need to throw it!
  11. Professor
    Professor 11 January 2018 17: 30 New
    +6

    Looked at the photo. It clearly could not do without "specialists who have been trained in countries using systems with UAVs." Especially specialists in tape wrapping and sawing plywood. wassat
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 11 January 2018 17: 45 New
      +4
      I still have objective reasons to believe that these drones could not launch an attack under the conditions and circumstances that we know. And why do we need these photos, I don’t know ...
      1. Professor
        Professor 11 January 2018 17: 59 New
        +6
        Quote: Shahno
        I still have objective reasons to believe that these drones could not launch an attack under the conditions and circumstances that we know. And why do we need these photos, I don’t know ...

        Did the General Staff of the Russian Federation ever lie? They told you that these drones flew 50 km and went straight to the target, so it was. They told you that for this they needed the help of the world's leading drone manufacturers and the availability of comic shots, which means it was. And don't let the facts confuse you (translation from Hebrew).
    2. Alexander War
      Alexander War 11 January 2018 17: 58 New
      +4
      Wait for the same Gollanks
      1. Professor
        Professor 11 January 2018 18: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander War
        http://chemistry-chemists.com/N5_2013/ChemistryAn
        dChemists_5_2013-P10-1.html

        Welcome to the club.
      2. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 11 January 2018 18: 32 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander War
        Wait for the same Gollanks

        they will not trample against their sponsors !! wink yes laughing laughing
    3. Locksmith
      Locksmith 11 January 2018 18: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: Professor
      Especially specialists in tape wrapping and sawing plywood.

      it’s not necessary to turn on the “fool” publicly, you perfectly understood what the conversation is about, the drone is a drone, it has no camera, there is no video communication channel, it flies strictly according to the coordinates given in memory, using for reference the DIGITAL MAP of the terrain, with EXACT COORDINATES OF THE MILITARY JPS, the civilian would have taken him away, for example, to Israel, for examples of the work of the civilian ZhPS near our military, I think you are familiar laughing
      He was raised by an operator in the sky, and onboard the onboard computer, which has an altimeter and other nishtyaks on board wink
      No glider will deceive anyone, by the way, about the bird, she actually carried 4 kg of bombs only !!
      Try to torment your aircraft modellers, they’re good for you, they’ll tell you for sure - this is the node to be able to build such a simple and manageable glider, and even with such a high load and under a gasoline such as DL50 with terrible vibrations on board !!
      1. Professor
        Professor 11 January 2018 18: 40 New
        +1
        Quote: Locksmith
        Quote: Professor
        Especially specialists in tape wrapping and sawing plywood.

        it’s not necessary to turn on the “fool” publicly, you perfectly understood what the conversation is about, the drone is a drone, it has no camera, there is no video communication channel, it flies strictly according to the coordinates given in memory, using for reference the DIGITAL MAP of the terrain, with EXACT COORDINATES OF THE MILITARY JPS, the civilian would have taken him away, for example, to Israel, for examples of the work of the civilian ZhPS near our military, I think you are familiar laughing
        He was raised by an operator in the sky, and onboard the onboard computer, which has an altimeter and other nishtyaks on board wink
        No glider will deceive anyone, by the way, about the bird, she actually carried 4 kg of bombs only !!
        Try to torment your aircraft modellers, they’re good for you, they’ll tell you for sure - this is the node to be able to build such a simple and manageable glider, and even with such a high load and under a gasoline such as DL50 with terrible vibrations on board !!

        All of the above you have in my mobile phone. In addition to the military GPS about which you came up with. Here's how to use a mobile phone.
        1. Locksmith
          Locksmith 11 January 2018 19: 34 New
          +3
          Quote: Professor
          Here's how to use a mobile phone.

          The professor is all kindergarten, the 7 Veil working nearby will kill all flyers in any channel, at least do something. The members of the gas and oil industry like to use this crap - probably saw such "horns" on the German "UAZ" black laughing Our modellers have already repeatedly lost their models after these cars were traveling nearby, and do not care what on board, DMSS, FASST, DSMX, DSM-2 - everything together loses control and falls, and I don’t even want to talk about mobile phones - one laugh.
          So, for the most all-knowing, there’s a warrior even better than that, they work automatically, only in the passive mode they detect a nearby radio channel, and that's it! Goodbye Babai !! wink
          1. Professor
            Professor 11 January 2018 19: 40 New
            +1
            Quote: Locksmith
            Quote: Professor
            Here's how to use a mobile phone.

            The professor is all kindergarten, the 7 Veil working nearby will kill all flyers in any channel, at least do something. The members of the gas and oil industry like to use this crap - probably saw such "horns" on the German "UAZ" black laughing Our modellers have already repeatedly lost their models after these cars were traveling nearby, and do not care what on board, DMSS, FASST, DSMX, DSM-2 - everything together loses control and falls, and I don’t even want to talk about mobile phones - one laugh.
            So, for the most all-knowing, there’s a warrior even better than that, they work automatically, only in the passive mode they detect a nearby radio channel, and that's it! Goodbye Babai !! wink

            Well, why then did the “Carapace knock down 7 drones” if it was so easy to confuse them?

            Quote: Yuyuka
            frankly, I didn’t expect from you such a straightforward perception of just a photo ... usually you have a more interesting discussion ... you need to consider a lot of facts and little things, including - how it all worked

            Drone performance level "which were created by specialists who were trained in countries using UAV systems " we have already seen. Tales of satellite imagery and the military GPS have already heard. What factors do you want to discuss?
            1. Locksmith
              Locksmith 11 January 2018 20: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: Professor
              Well, why then did the “Carapace knock down 7 drones” if it was so easy to confuse them?

              And this is precisely the difference between civilian and mythical - in your words, military guidance systems, which had to be blamed roughly, by fire defeat.
              Quote: Professor
              What factors do you want to discuss?

              You know what, but as always, it’s not us, we don’t know what it is laughing Bravo !!
              Ears stick out per kilometer ..
              1. Professor
                Professor 11 January 2018 20: 45 New
                +2
                Quote: Locksmith
                And this is precisely the difference between civilian and mythical - in your words, military guidance systems, which had to be blamed roughly, by fire defeat.

                And on the three that they "planted" did someone forget to put on the military receivers? wassat

                Quote: Locksmith
                Ears stick out per kilometer ..

                We have something to sell through Voentorg. And not assembled from plywood and wrapped with tape. We have full-time kamikaze drones. Thus, whether it was our ears, then your base would need a major overhaul. But why do we need this? Vova and Bibi are friends and your presence in Syria is in our interest. You do the work for extinguish the bearded. The longer you stay there and the more you extinguish them, the less we will have.
                1. Locksmith
                  Locksmith 12 January 2018 07: 02 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Professor
                  And not assembled from plywood and wrapped in tape

                  Here's the thing: - A glider, even assembled at a good factory, must be set up.
                  Namely, you need to mow the engine, you need to trim the glider itself, and only a qualified pilot can lift it on its first flight. Then everything is repeated with a real load, of course you need to check the navigation system, that is, you need a lot of experience. they are owned by specialists, and notice the glider has no landing gear !! That is, it should take off from the catapult and land on the prepared site. began to be applied, its basis is not kapton, but polyethylene terephthalate, but more heat-resistant, such things are known to a very limited number of people in the subject.
                  The nearest countries from Syria with similar technologies, such as Israel and Turkey, flew from the Turks, from their area of ​​responsibility, but the Israelis began to deny, is it strange? hi
    4. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 11 January 2018 19: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor
      Looked at the photo. It clearly could not do without "specialists who have been trained in countries using systems with UAVs." Especially specialists in tape wrapping and sawing plywood. wassat


      honestly I did not expect from you such a straightforward perception of only a photo ... No. usually you have a more interesting discussion ... you need to consider a lot of facts and little things, including - how IT worked hi
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 11 January 2018 19: 49 New
        0
        Just to understand, we (several other graduates of Russian universities) collected drones. Here in Arets at the end of the century. And you think I can surprise Mr. .. with a fake (nasty word) photo?
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 11 January 2018 20: 35 New
          +1
          Yes, there are many nuances that were described in detail today during the day - and the Moscow Region, and just the president ... I, as it were, are also a graduate of a university, though Soviet, but I was dealing with high-tech things. The question is not in appearance, but in the essence of the whole complex. “data embedded in management, possibly of military origin”, “group flight”, etc. this is in the MO briefing. But, it would be interesting to look at this in a complex -

          - A few months ago there was a heated discussion about the "bee swarm", why not try it out?
          - in St. Petersburg they took the terrorists "with the help of the CIA", somehow I didn’t like it right away - why did p (artne) get worried? wait for nasty things - it was my personal opinion ... how can we suspect them after this ??
          - today a conversation took place between the General Staffs of Russia and the USA repeat
          - Well, the reconnaissance aircraft flew for 4 hours, "by accident" ...

          In Syria, we are testing our weapons; our Americans, in addition, are testing various options for warfare using the latest technology. It was always and everywhere! I don’t see anything surprising in this. It’s just that they have more information punctures now, ours have learned to make an “answer”. something like that ... glad I will listen to another opinion or addition hi
  12. Vanin
    Vanin 11 January 2018 17: 31 New
    +5
    According to him, TEN is produced, in particular, at the Shostkin chemical reagent plant in Ukraine. This substance can not be made in artisanal conditions or extracted from other ammunition.

    I fully admit such a version, it’s just that the “world media” do not allow Russia to make this public, nobody just hears Russia or does not want to ..
    Someday they will still hear and the world will shudder at what was happening behind the curtains of the collapse of the USSR and who created ISIS, etc. Russia is also guilty of this (the tops of the oligarchy ..)
    1. karish
      karish 11 January 2018 18: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: VANIN
      According to him, TEN are produced, in particular, at Shostkinsky chemical reagents factory in Ukraine. This substance cannot be manufactured in artisanal conditions. or removed from other ammunition.

      I fully admit such a version, it’s just that the “world media” do not allow Russia to make this public, nobody just hears Russia or does not want to ..
      .)

      Where is it from here?
      700 grams of TEN explosive was found on the outskirts of Biysk in the Altai Territory. Due to the danger of an explosion, the find was destroyed in the place of the cache, the power of the substance was about 3 kg in TNT equivalent.

      it is strange that the MoE at least consulted with the FSB about the heater.
      They would tell a lot of interesting things.
      Denis Gintovt managed to make at home an analog of trotyl - pentaerythritol tetranitrate (TEN)
      https://life.ru/t/%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%81%
      D1%82%D0%B8/22657
      .
      and here also step-by-step instructions --- on the website Chemistry and Chemists.
      get fucked up.
      http://chemistry-chemists.com/N5_2013/ChemistryAn
      dChemists_5_2013-P10-1.html
  13. Humpty
    Humpty 11 January 2018 17: 34 New
    0
    Repeatedly saw how one of the SMU uses this explosive in the process of its activities. I live in Kyrgyzstan. Another trace?
  14. Old26
    Old26 11 January 2018 17: 45 New
    0
    Quote: Balu
    Quote: Deniska999
    Is Ukraine a Sponsor of the IG? I have not seen a more ridiculous version. In the BV of their weapons and so in bulk.

    Barmalei and Banderlog have the same host-sponsor. The same thing happened in both Chechen wars.
    One thing is not clear to me. The Turks shot down our fighter, easily got off. And now, why didn’t an instant strike strike be taken at the starting point of the ersatz-Pepilians in Syria, and not Turkey, although controlled by the Turks? Such a strategy should be adopted and applied even if the next attack by the ersatz-pepilatsi is launched from the territory of the United States or Israel or another occupying country of Syria. The Syrian government did not invite Turks and the United States.

    Kamrad! The information was that the launch was from the Latakia region, and this is about 15 km from the base. I have not heard that Turkey is controlled by Latakia
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 11 January 2018 21: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      Kamrad! The information was that the launch was from the Latakia region, and this is about 15 km from the base. I have not heard that Turkey is controlled by Latakia

      All day in the news that the launch point in Idlib, in the control zone of Turkey. hi
  15. cedar
    cedar 11 January 2018 18: 10 New
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Shahno
    I still have objective reasons to believe that these drones could not launch an attack under the conditions and circumstances that we know. And why do we need these photos, I don’t know ...

    Did the General Staff of the Russian Federation ever lie? They told you that these drones flew 50 km and went straight to the target, so it was. They told you that for this they needed the help of the world's leading drone manufacturers and the availability of comic shots, which means it was. And don't let the facts confuse you (translation from Hebrew).


    Do not you know what "war is the art of deception" ...
    1. Professor
      Professor 11 January 2018 18: 14 New
      0
      Quote: cedar
      Do you not know that "war is the art of deception" ...

      Do not judge others by yourself. Our MO has never been caught lying.
      1. Alexander War
        Alexander War 11 January 2018 18: 18 New
        +5
        laughing Yes, yes it was not) birds f-35 pecked)
        1. Nikolai Grek
          Nikolai Grek 11 January 2018 18: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander War
          laughing Yes, yes it was not) birds f-35 pecked)

          lol lol good good good severely pecked !!! laughing laughing laughing
        2. Professor
          Professor 11 January 2018 18: 50 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander War
          laughing Yes, yes it was not) birds f-35 pecked)

          Not. C-200 hit him, but ... he reached the base. lol
          1. Alexander War
            Alexander War 11 January 2018 19: 07 New
            +1
            Show me the photo and video of the pecked -35, don’t do it, the film is over or the batteries are dead!
            1. Professor
              Professor 11 January 2018 19: 42 New
              0
              Quote: Alexander War
              Show me the photo and video of the pecked -35, don’t do it, the film is over or the batteries are dead!

              Immediately after you show the padded F-35. wink
              1. Alexander War
                Alexander War 11 January 2018 20: 12 New
                +1
                Our MO has never been caught lying. We are waiting for photos and videos of your f -35, pecked
                1. Professor
                  Professor 11 January 2018 20: 34 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Alexander War
                  Our MO has never been caught lying. We are waiting for photos and videos of your f -35, pecked

                  Start uploading video from the “Russian helicopter chasing terrorists in Syria”? Maybe screenshots from a video game? lol
                  1. Alexander War
                    Alexander War 11 January 2018 20: 56 New
                    +2
                    How IS terrorists from Syria were treated in Israel
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 12 January 2018 15: 54 New
                      0
                      Quote: Alexander War
                      How IS terrorists from Syria were treated in Israel

                      Blah blah blah. Even Zakharova from your Foreign Ministry did not express concern. Does it work for her? If you have facts, name, then contact the UK and they will put the terrorists on the wanted list. We will arrest them and extradite them to Russia.
  16. cedar
    cedar 11 January 2018 18: 40 New
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: cedar
    Do you not know that "war is the art of deception" ...

    Do not judge others by yourself. Our MO has never been caught lying.


    Prize in the studio to the Honest Ministry of Defense in BV ...
    1. Yuyuka
      Yuyuka 11 January 2018 21: 56 New
      0
      Quote: cedar
      Quote: Professor
      Quote: cedar
      Do you not know that "war is the art of deception" ...

      Do not judge others by yourself. Our MO has never been caught lying.


      Prize in the studio to the Honest Ministry of Defense in BV ...


      An ugly abbreviation of some kind ... H (natural) M (inistry) O (harrows) Better then - Tricky laughing
  17. Maz
    Maz 11 January 2018 19: 26 New
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Shahno
    I still have objective reasons to believe that these drones could not launch an attack under the conditions and circumstances that we know. And why do we need these photos, I don’t know ...

    Did the General Staff of the Russian Federation ever lie? They told you that these drones flew 50 km and went straight to the target, so it was. They told you that for this they needed the help of the world's leading drone manufacturers and the availability of comic shots, which means it was. And don't let the facts confuse you (translation from Hebrew).

    That is, we ourselves sent 130 ammunition. Ingenious. Then they shot down and blamed the only two white and fluffy manufacturers of jeepies, drones, controllers, batteries, programs, a control system, satellites, and other devices linked into the complex that they either transferred technology and trained the terrorists, or participated in this undertaking ! Such a special excuse, not even a sin to come up with. Itself begs. Bravo! Goebbels probably rolled over in his grave. So maybe the Kassams are self-assembled, self-governing, self-launching according to Ashkelon, Zitim, Ashdod, and then we abuse the Palestinians for nothing? Don't let the facts confuse you. Gosh IDF never lies! Amen
    1. Professor
      Professor 11 January 2018 19: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      That is, we ourselves sent 130 ammunition.

      "We" is it Ukrainian migrant workers in Bat Yam? Congenial. bully
  18. Alexander War
    Alexander War 11 January 2018 19: 28 New
    +3
    Briefing by A. Novikov, Head of the Department for Construction and Development of the UAV UAV General Purpose Navigation System Application System
  19. Maz
    Maz 11 January 2018 19: 39 New
    +3
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: cedar
    Do you not know that "war is the art of deception" ...

    Do not judge others by yourself. Our MO has never been caught lying.

    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Alexander War
    laughing Yes, yes it was not) birds f-35 pecked)

    Not. C-200 hit him, but ... he reached the base. lol

    God forbid all this crap will fall into the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah. Then it will be no time for jokes. One drone - ten bombs with Ten on a shaver. Yes, in yom kippur or on Easter - pace, a nightmare. It's time to do a second iron bale - against drones. All right now, all the terrorists will begin to sculpt in the image and likeness. Poor Europe, the chosen of Israel, my mother. Horror, wild gin from the bottle.
    1. MadCat
      MadCat 12 January 2018 01: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Maz
      God forbid all this crap will fall into the hands of Hamas and Hezbollah.

      The Syrians and the Iranians were already delivering to the hezbollons, and it was unlikely that the factory systems could do without the Russian Federation ... though they were bombed a bit and the caravans were issued a ticket to the gurians.
  20. Alexander War
    Alexander War 11 January 2018 19: 43 New
    0
    Deir ez Zor, American RZSO HIMARS, filmed by Kurds from YPG
  21. Northern warrior
    Northern warrior 11 January 2018 19: 49 New
    +1
    Classic SAM and ZSU against small UAVs are extremely ineffective, because the cost of missiles is ten times higher than the cost of the target, and getting into the drone with a burst of guns is problematic (if there are no shells with controlled detonation on the trajectory). Only one way out - the use of electronic warfare stations (will not save from autonomous UAVs with ANNs) and directed energy weapons (lasers and microwave guns). We need a laser air defense system capable of destroying projectiles, mines and small UAVs in flight at a distance of 3-5 km.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 11 January 2018 20: 53 New
      +5
      The classic modern UAV for UAVs is extremely effective. The correct position, distance, cheap (relatively) short-range missile ... broads and there is none. Cheaper only artillery anti-aircraft guns, i.e. quick-shooter ... maybe if it is of high quality and gives a high density of fire at a decent distance.
      Counteraction is effective only in a fully organized air defense system. EW systems are also part of this system.
      Expensive, difficult and a lot of work, but there is nothing else ... although you can arrange a "rest zone" around and for 100 km, well, so, a Jesuit fantasy
  22. cedar
    cedar 11 January 2018 20: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: Maz
    Poor Europe, the chosen of Israel, my mother. Horror, wild gin from the bottle.


    See the root. Not a wild gin, but CONTROLLED CHAOS. So it will be correct.
  23. rocket757
    rocket757 11 January 2018 20: 37 New
    +5
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: activator
    And where is his bonboluk? or did he carry bonbs on the outside?

    What the hell is that mini drone for? Have you seen a tactical bomber in it? Stupidly dive on the target much easier and more reliable. Well, or some kind of simple holders who let go of the “gift” and it flies to the heads of soldiers who are not expecting anything.

    Bombs when dropped drop more precisely, this bookcase is not a dive player, you just don’t get into the coordinates, one gust of wind and fell anywhere.
    Remember the story of kamikaze, missed often, and there was a pilot! Aerodynamics did not fit, the pilots were so-so basically ...
  24. Maz
    Maz 11 January 2018 21: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Maz
    That is, we ourselves sent 130 ammunition.

    "We" is it Ukrainian migrant workers in Bat Yam? Congenial. bully

    Professor, not father, but in Dnepropetrovsk, not Ukrainian, but Russian citizens, not migrant workers and officers in reserve. Well the rest is to the best of disadvantages considerations
  25. Nikolai Passerby
    Nikolai Passerby 11 January 2018 21: 29 New
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    TASS published an interview with a drone specialist. This is interesting ... http://tass.ru/politika/4867204
  26. Maz
    Maz 11 January 2018 21: 30 New
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    Quote: Professor
    Quote: Alexander War
    Show me the photo and video of the pecked -35, don’t do it, the film is over or the batteries are dead!

    Immediately after you show the padded F-35. wink

    We recognize as soon as Hebrew is recognized in the language of Yeshua.
  27. Maz
    Maz 11 January 2018 22: 06 New
    +3
    Quote: rocket757
    The classic modern UAV for UAVs is extremely effective. The correct position, distance, cheap (relatively) short-range missile ... broads and there is none. Cheaper only artillery anti-aircraft guns, i.e. quick-shooter ... maybe if it is of high quality and gives a high density of fire at a decent distance.
    Counteraction is effective only in a fully organized air defense system. EW systems are also part of this system.
    Expensive, difficult and a lot of work, but there is nothing else ... although you can arrange a "rest zone" around and for 100 km, well, so, a Jesuit fantasy

    But that’s not the point. Only an advanced defense system of a military base can repel such an attack. But such a system cannot be stuck, for example, over the Tel Aviv beach in yo shishi or Shabbat. Now imagine that two such birds fly from the Arab region of Jaffa. One with a camera, and the second with ten bombs of 400 grams each. Yes, the Palestinians will now go out on humus so that they can build, transport and launch such a flying pair. About what is happening on the TA beach in the heat, you can look on the Internet. Matzo has nowhere to throw an edge. Now imagine a football stadium at the World Cup .... Horror. It could not even be shown in working condition. Consider that the drones arms race has begun. God forbid, be right. They will never mind a Jew or Ukrainian, professor or student.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 11 January 2018 23: 46 New
      +4
      Agree to 101%.
      Stretch the chain of radar posts and launch missiles along the entire border !!! at such costs !!!!
      Above the water, along the coastline, is generally full of jo-jo-jo! And inside the cities ??? You can’t put a Shilka at every intersection!
      It looks like someone deliberately or stupidly opened the PANDORA BOX !!!
      And yes, a furry northern animal crept up to one very greyhound country, as predicted.
      However, not sweet can become EVERYTHING !!!
  28. groks
    groks 11 January 2018 22: 11 New
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    Take an example from amers? In the sense - they carry whatever.
    TEN is used in DS, in detonators and in general in medicine. It is produced, respectively, in almost all countries and diverges around the world. Completely legal. The advantage is not in its special “power” (for RDX, the detonation speed is even higher), but in a small detonation radius. And this is true with a small amount of charge.
  29. Shahno
    Shahno 12 January 2018 12: 44 New
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    rocket757,
    What is the true goal? You have your own interests, we have our own ... And the most interesting is that someone attacked this target?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 12 January 2018 13: 35 New
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      Ugh!
      I gave an assumption made by one of your compatriots! precisely because. I don’t think this is something impossible.
      Again, your state, unlike many, for me is not a priori guilty and involved always and in everything. I have my own opinion ... personal experience and common sense.
      So for clarity - the Israeli secret services and individuals with their own initiative on my list. for SOME CASES, are present.
      In this particular case, there is little reason to suspect, and then only some special services, perhaps on a personal initiative !!! It also happens. Business, nothing personal.
      My personal one - I WILL NOT go into intelligence with an Arab, but went with a Jew, he covered my back .... everything happens in life.
  30. iaroslav.mudryi
    iaroslav.mudryi 12 January 2018 13: 47 New
    +2
    Shahno,
    Quote: Shahno
    Well, this is not the Jews, and not the states. And I don’t know who you got on your head there. Look for locals with a long tongue ....
    Why are we doing such a bombless attack?


    No reason !? I agree, why do you and the Americans? I don’t even know, we read:

    11: 50 12 January 2018
    Donetsk, January 12. In the Donetsk People’s Republic, an UAV attack on militia positions was reported, similar to an attack by militants at the Khmeimim and Tartus bases.
    Sources of the WarGonzo project in the DPR power structures reported that a month before the attack on Russian military facilities in Syria, drones similarly attacked the positions of the Donbass militia.


    Source: https://riafan.ru/1015382-za-mesyac-do-ataki-na-k
    hmeimim-drony-analogichno-atakovali-pozicii-dnr

    And what did you forget in the Donbass? From a neighboring branch:
    https://topwar.ru/133559-izrailskiy-instruktor-vs
    u-vse-dumali-chto-rossiya-zavyaznet-v-sirii-kak-v
    -afganistane.html # comment-id-7762386
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 12 January 2018 14: 14 New
      +3
      But the Yankees and their mongrels, I will never delete from the list of enemies NEVER!
      Maybe the team from the white house doesn’t always come, we don’t know for everything there, but special services and all sorts of different initiative guys, they’re ready to stick their noses in every hole and crap, crap !!!!
      Again, business and not something personal ... at them so kaatsa.
      1. Shahno
        Shahno 12 January 2018 14: 41 New
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        Yes it is. But this is not the line of the party.
    2. Shahno
      Shahno 12 January 2018 14: 47 New
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      So it’s tact of all the same gangs, somewhere intelligence specialists can oversee. But this is a common practice now for all countries claiming leadership. Keep everything under control. Or is your country here white and fluffy?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 January 2018 15: 06 New
        +3
        I don’t wear ANYONE in white fluffy!
        Special services, as a rule, work under state control, but everyone probably has different twists!
        Say what time is, say nothing! People have changed, many taboos are simply lost, eliminated, and now there are simply no restrictions, rules, for different initiative guys!
        So it remains to keep your ears sharp and watch, more than ever. It’s more familiar to you, you have been living in this mode for a long time, and our oak-makers still have to study and study !!!
  31. Maz
    Maz 14 January 2018 16: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: rocket757
    Ugh!

    My personal one - I WILL NOT go into intelligence with an Arab, but went with a Jew, he covered my back .... everything happens in life.

    I won’t go with an Arab either, but I went with a Jew ....., with Dushanbe, fraternal, Khabarovsk, Vladivostok, Dnepropetrovsk, Sumy, Moscow, Bulgarian, French, Iranian, Turkish, Odessa, ... Kazakh ... Etc. And no problem - the back is in order. But I will not go with an Israeli Jew. Will sell. Own and collective experience. And nothing personal.
    1. karish
      karish 14 January 2018 16: 49 New
      +1
      Quote: Maz
      but he went with a Jew ...

      Maz, well, where, except in shirutim, could you go?
      laughing
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 14 January 2018 17: 54 New
        +3
        Shaw so skeptical? Shaw besides a public institution and they had nowhere else to go?
        In life, anything can happen.
        A person has something to express, you have something to say against ... I would like to understand who and what has reason to say so.
        In general, I am against insulting on ethnic grounds., People are different for all peoples ... it’s rather the state of a person as a person, the state of society in which this personality was formed, but it’s not always! National characteristics can not change the essence of man!