Ukrainian radicals blocked the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra

The Ukrainian nationalist group C14 has blocked entry to the Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, reports 112 Ukraine, citing representatives of the group.

According to the statement of the radicals, "the headquarters of separatists and representatives of the FSB" is located in Lavra and the action is directed against them. For the talks with the nationalists, the vicar of the monastery, Metropolitan Vyshgorod and Chernobyl Pavel, came out. Gathered hold banners and flares in their hands.

There are also law enforcement officers near the Lavra, among whom there are several representatives of a special regiment.

The InfoResist edition reports that the protest at the walls of the Lavra began after it allegedly refused to funeral the dead participants of the punitive operation in the Donbas, who were not baptized in the church of the Moscow Patriarchate.

Earlier on Christmas night in Kiev, members of another radical organization, the Black Committee, attacked the Russian Center for Science and Culture, which deals with issues of humanitarian cooperation. According to eyewitnesses, they poured red paint on the building and tried to break the glass on the facade.

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[Going]

According to the statement of the radicals, "the headquarters of the separatists and representatives of the FSB" is located in Lavra and the action is directed against them.

When God wants to punish, he takes away the mind.

[Pirogov]

Quote: Going

When God wants to punish, he takes away the mind.

It is hard to take away what is not and was not.

[Thrall]

the protest at the walls of the Lavra began after it allegedly refused to bury the dead participants in the punitive operation in the Donbass, who were baptized not in the church of the Moscow Patriarchate

The legally correct name is simply "Ukrainian Orthodox Church", without any Moscow patriarchates. This supplement now sounds provocative, which is a pleasure to use forcing.

[Logall]

Filaret seems to have changed his mind ...

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Logall

Filaret seems to have changed his mind ...

It was a daily enlightenment, and that’s it. And in general, is it when the Orthodox Church was there in our understanding? Do not understand anything, understand nothing. We pray in the direction where they promise a freebie. As a result, neither a freebie nor Vera. The fate of all renegades is as follows.

[Vanek]

Quote: Logall

sort of like

Betrayed once ...

[svp67]

Quote: Thrall

The legally correct name is simply "Ukrainian Orthodox Church", without any Moscow patriarchates. This supplement now sounds provocative, which is a pleasure to use forcing.

EVERYTHING is correct there, since there is the "Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the Kiev Patriarchate" which is led by Filaret ...
I’m watching, God clearly helps them a little ...

[Thrall]

Quote: svp67

I’m watching, God clearly helps them a little ...

Unfortunately, installation. After a comic cry of "Grad", a video clip of a hit on an action movie in Syria is pasted:

[LiSiCyn]

Tin !!! Militias, handsome! Clearly laid. I, as I understand it, also covered the second sau ... I don’t know how the Republics are, but ukrov has serious losses ... It reminds me very much of the winter of the 15th. Only in the place of DAP, Avdeevskaya promka, and instead of Debaltseve, Svetodar arc. I think they will trample ukra, they have no options. They either Donetsk or Kiev ... But when they are almost ready to go to Kiev ... They will immediately be thrown into the attack. It’s easier, then screaming for help, appealing to the states, Europe, UN. They will pile up, stop, they will definitely not reach Kiev. And those who are dissatisfied are disposed of. And there, again, they will pick up the villages, then there is no work. We must immediately harness ourselves to the fullest, up to the establishment of a no-fly zone over the entire B. U.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The tin that we are stuffed with fakes, and simpletons like you being fooled by this.

[LiSiCyn]

So be it ... But the militias are still handsome !!! And I think hits on Ukrainian positions look about the same ... But you won’t deny that there are hits? Every day they bury, and not one at a time ...

[Antares]

Quote: LiSiCyn

I, so I understand, also covered the second sau ...

and covered the third and the fourth .. .see the original. IN

just something with the first problem. She only disappears in the fake video.
Though check that ... spend 2 minutes!
Although to whom I ... the primitive taxis ... this is not even installation ... two pieces.

[Skifotavr]

They themselves mounted this piece ... so that later they could expose the Kremlin? Shells incidentally heroes gorilki and squirrels unload as usual ...

[LiSiCyn]

Hey ...

Quote: Antares

primitive

Do coffins often come? So, 4 years after your coup ... I have one desire, so that the coffins would go to ukra, they would not end in a torrent ... And in the room, I expressed my opinion, everything else is not important. .

[Uxus]

I thought maybe it detonated, there wasn’t a plus on that video.

[Lelek]

Quote: svp67

I’m watching, God clearly helps them a little ...

God is not a fryer, he sees and punishes a hate, who deprives the mind, someone - money, and someone - life. Happy New Year, Ruin.

[Uxus]

Not the fact that they got into self-propelled guns. And nobody canceled the counter-battery struggle.
And here is more fun:

[Skifotavr]

The funniest thing here:

[Uxus]

So what? Here is the answer:

[Hoc vince]

"The protest at the walls of the Lavra began after it allegedly refused to bury the dead participants in the punitive operation in the Donbass, who were baptized not in the church of the Moscow Patriarchate"
The reason is secondary.
There will be no Orthodox priest to bury a Catholic; Catholics have their own churches in Ukraine. Many of them were taken from the Moscow Patriarchate.

[LSA57]

Quote: Hoc vince

The Orthodox priest will not bury the Catholic,

why didn’t they go to the mosque? apparently they do not care faith

[LSA57]

Quote: Pirogov

It’s hard to take away what is not and never was

what parents and society did not

[Hoc vince]

Now they will again tell that ordinary citizens have nothing to do with it. And there we have brothers ...

[Vadim237]

We have been there since the 30s, we have ceased to be brothers, but we only saw in 2014.

[rocket757]

Jump, rage they need any help. And the reason? If not, they will.
And not everyone there is going crazy, but it is this brainless herd that is in sight, so conceived.
The fact that the majority exists by the principle - My hut from the edge ... and we have such, fortunately less than the critical mass.

[dSK]

Hello Vadim!

Quote: Vadim237

have seen.

From the history of the Russian Orthodox Church: In the thirties of the last century, after the closure of the Lavra, a decision was made to export "holy relics", drove about 30 trucks, began to load crayfish. All cars stalled, not one could start. We stood, reported "to the top", received the "hang up" command and unloaded back.

[Lelek]

Quote: Vadim237

We have been there since the 30s, we have ceased to be brothers, but we only saw in 2014.

We overlooked a lot of things, turned a blind eye to many things just not to destroy the myth of the Slavic brotherhood, and now we get it in full.

[vlad66]

Quote: Hoc vince

Now they will again tell that ordinary citizens have nothing to do with it. And there we have brothers ...

Well, yes, "brothers", I would have studied "brother" that would have nailed it right away and irrevocably.

[Hoc vince]

To pretend that nothing is happening to the "fraternal people" and that these are all "nationalists," is at least very stupid.

[Makarov]

So what?

The book "Hitler. Biography" by Joachim Fest - the famous German historian of the Third Reich, who for many years was the editor of the authoritative newspaper "Frankfurter Algemeine Zeitung", is rightfully considered one of Hitler's best biographies. At one time, she became a sensation. Despite the impressive volume and high price, the first edition sold almost instantly. The first was followed by a number of other publications, the book was translated into many languages ​​and even filmed. The central figure of the talented and fascinatingly written book is Adolf Hitler. According to Fest, Hitler’s monstrous will to power led to the establishment of the Nazi dictatorship and demonstrated "the amazing power of the influence of the individual on the historical process." The book - "The Way Up" - describes the period of Hitler's life, preceding his entry into power.

Or again we will only read what the Party orders?

[The leader of the Redskins]

And history, my friend, you need to learn ... Otherwise, a consciousness of the type:

[LSA57]

Quote: Hoc vince

Now they will again tell that ordinary citizens have nothing to do with it. And there we have brothers ...

got these tales

[NEXUS]

Quote: Going

When God wants to punish, he takes away the mind.

How can you take away what was not originally laid down in the basic configuration?

[LSA57]

Quote: Going

When God wants to punish, he takes away the mind.

knocks into a flock and gives a bloody "leader"

[Cutter]

NON-PEOPLE ... What can be said about people who do not have a gram of conscience ???

[Hoc vince]

Lord, save and save the Lavra from the barbarians.

[dSK]

Quote: Hoc vince

save the laurel

It became known that the Ukrainian radicals from the local nationalist organization dispersed, finally ceasing to block entry into the Kiev Pechersk Lavra. They themselves talked about this on their Facebook page. RIA Novosti, yesterday at 21:52

[cannabis]

The situation in Ukraine repeats "Three Comrades" Remarque. The same nationalism, the same blind aggression. Military psychosis. Not treated. It is eliminated only mechanically.

[marlin1203]

Rather, the "Black Obelisk."

[Herculesic]

And our authorities, even the patriarch, are either silent or even call for humility! And I would use all available means and start with rubber truncheons and tear gas!

[LSA57]

Quote: Herkulesich

And I would use all available means, and I would start with rubber truncheons, and tear gas!

our riot police in kuev ??????

[Anton Boldakov]

At this pace, they will find in the Verkhovna Rada the headquarters of the FSB and make-up Putin with Medvedev and a battalion of "polite people"

[CAT BAIYUN]

That's just the same battalion of "polite people" there is not enough.

[NEXUS]

Quote: CAT BAYUN

That's just the same battalion of "polite people" there is not enough.

The battalion will not be enough ... one division will be sent there, and in a couple of days, unlimited love in Russia will return, and endless demonstration trials of the Athos, and Paraska’s Kiev hangers-on ... moreover, they will "knock" and write denunciations to the Nazis with the same zeal, as it is now done in relation to normal adequate people and those who disagree.

[CAT BAIYUN]

“knocking” and then writing denunciations to the Nazis will be with the same zeal as they are now doing with respect to normal, adequate people and those who disagree.

oh yes .... Strongly agree!

[Uxus]

and you are still a dreamer)))

[NEXUS]

Quote: Uxus

and you are still a dreamer)))

I’ll answer like that ...

[LSA57]

Quote: Anton Boldakov

At this pace, they will find in the Verkhovna Rada the headquarters of the FSB and make-up Putin with Medvedev and a battalion of "polite people"

Duc Savchenko was a hero, became a "mishandled Cossack"

[newcomer]

Oh my God! despicable and insignificant barbarians! Press Lavra_oh washed off from these sins will be forever.

[Hoc vince]

I would like to say: "Forgive them, Lord, for they do not know what they are doing" ... So after all, they know

[newcomer]

Yes, everything is done intentionally.

[Hoc vince]

You can’t throw firewood in a religious conflict, especially on a holiday

[Lelek]

Quote: newbie

Yes, everything is done intentionally.

Of course. The theme "Ruin" is becoming irrelevant, the rating of Kiev godfathers in "Europe" and in the most independent "G-0", ahead of them are the payment of debts and interest on them .... Means what? That's right, you need to remind yourself of your existence, even with enemies, bloody knights and attacks on churches and pastors — it’s all good if you want to stay at the helm at least for a moment.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

What the hell ... baptized / not baptized, funeral / not funeral ... Those who have died deeply are against us in this matter - they are already gone.

[Dimka75]

presentation of information in the article is a curve (intentionally or from stupidity, I don’t know)

it is easy to find in the information space of Ukraine the root causes of this event:

in Zaporozhye on the evening of December 31, a man fell out of a window of a high-rise building and landed on a child. Both died. During the funeral of a child, a priest of the UOC-MP refused to funeral for the deceased. He argued that the baby was baptized in the church of the Kiev Patriarchate (representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate believe that the church is "self-styled", which means the child is unbaptized).

it caused wide publicity and resonance in society
the fact that the soldiers are not buried is known for a long time and everyone is used to it, but many were outraged about the child

Dozens of people came to say goodbye to the child, but the priest, whom the ritual service invited, refused to funeral for the deceased. He informed his parents right before the burial - when he found out that the child was baptized in the church of the Kiev Patriarchate.
The child is still buried. The priest of the Kiev Patriarchate, whom his parents managed to find, came to the funeral from the other end of the city. But Moscow priests, despite the huge resonance, continue to defend their position.
People began to bring toys to the porch of the church in support of the boy’s parents

[BABAY22]

A mullah was not invited to funeral? And when he twists a finger at his temple, they would arrange a universal screech and blame the President of the Russian Federation of course. In short, a provocation, nothing sacred among people, was left - the deceased boy and that in the furnace.

[loginovich]

here more

[abc_alex]

He argued that the baby was baptized in the church of the Kiev Patriarchate (representatives of the Moscow Patriarchate believe that the church is "self-styled", which means the child is unbaptized).

Firstly, there is not a single Orthodox association in the world that recognizes the Kiev Patriarchate. Therefore, the priest did not argue, but stated an obvious fact: the child was baptized by schismatics, essentially sectarians. And do not make blue eyes - you yourself know this very well and understand. And do not blame the priest, he acted according to the charter of the church.
Personally, I’m interested in this: if the parents baptized the child in a schismatic church, why did they call the “Moskal” priest to the funeral? Read below, if you didn’t know before, you will know now:

The funeral service is the funeral service rite performed by the priest, with which the Church escorts to the eternal life of those who have ceased from temporary living its memberprayerfully asking him forgiveness of sins and rest in the kingdom of heaven.

So the priest is absolutely right.

The child is still buried. The priest of the Kiev Patriarchate, whom his parents managed to find, came to the funeral from the other end of the city. But Moscow priests, despite the huge resonance, continue to defend their position.

Exactly. Only I wonder, parents, when they baptized a child in a schismatic church, what were they thinking? Or didn’t understand what they were doing? And the “Moscow priests” are absolutely and absolutely right. Even in spite of the fact that around them the rotten political game in the performance of those activists is once again being inflated.

And such they are because on the bones of the child and the grief of the parents came to demand not church unity, but to declare that

the "headquarters of the separatists and representatives of the FSB" is located in the Lavra and the action is directed against them

They don’t have enough of the split that already exists, I also want to aggravate it, right?

[Dimka75]

I generally "do not think anything with blue eyes", especially after a comment about Mullah and Putin in this topic
I tried to write the facts - a sequence of events
and by the way, you can similarly write that the "Moscow Patriarchate" except the MP itself, "no one recognizes in the world"
and we have 50/50 parishioners of the Communist Party and the MP, so 50% say about the competitors-"schismatics"

[Dimka75]

there must be some kind of critical understanding of the information received (and information exactly), and not the stuffing about "participants in the punitive operation in the Donbass who were not baptized in the church of the Moscow Patriarchate."

[ventel]

Sorry, who are you referring to on this site if the Nazis are so immediate about Bendera, it’s customary here to put labels on everyone to listen to the arguments of the opponents is not accepted. Well, you set out your point of view anyway, but you will not hear malicious comments. So broaden this siziz labor.

[Antares]

Quote: ventel

Bendera

funny, but in your comment I’ll correct that the Bender people are suffering in vain in this “fraternal national business project”.
Come on, only Ukrainians .. and Russians quickly repaint them as citizens of Ukraine, if they don’t like something in their beloved Fatherland.

[a housewife]

Listen, brothers from Ukraine. You do not like our site, so you have nothing to do here. There are people in Ukraine who are quite normal, nobody hangs anything. And - yes, they judge not by country of residence, but by reasoning. And "Bendera" is written by a person under the Ukrainian flag, so for yourself, first, understand each other. And also for the slow-witted - in which church they were baptized, they should go there for funeral services. But, firstly, it means that the parents of the child baptized in the nearest church, not really bothering what kind of patriarchy it was. Secondly, since it was hard to find a priest from the Ukrainian patriarchy, this proves how few of them actually are. And given the precarious position of their “patriarch,” events will change a little, so little will remain of the Ukrainian patriarchy.

[abc_alex]

But in the period from 2012 to 2014 on all of our forums we received from yours in full the “taiga union”, “mon_goloka_tsapov”, “pu_ti_noidov” and other dirt. And any of our comments about your Association were met not even with malicious comments, but with spitting and throwing like a_ash. What is now offended? :)

[Uxus]

This is yes. The junta and a bunch of other words, the meaning of which is not necessary to know

[abc_alex]

I tried to write the facts - a sequence of events

And thank you for that.

and by the way, you can similarly write that the "Moscow Patriarchate" except the MP itself, "no one recognizes in the world"

The ROC is recognized by at least 12 Orthodox churches: of Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Jerusalem, Georgia, Serbia, Romanian, Bulgarian, Cyprus, Hellas, Albanian and Polish. In addition to being recognized by the Vatican. So here you are wrong.

and we have 50/50 parishioners of the Communist Party and the MP, so 50% say about the competitors-"schismatics"

So you have both Uniates and Catholics. Like ours. Try the same operation with their priests. Get exactly the same result. The church is a rite. And to call schismatics the largest autocephalous Orthodox church in the world from the side of the unrecognized by anyone and nowhere "Kiev patriarchy" is at least bold :)
But that’s not the point. I just wanted you to understand: the Church has its own laws. And the laws of church life are as strict as secular laws. Only respected stricter. There is no point in arguing with them. They must either be accepted or not accepted.

there must be some kind of critical understanding of the information received (and information exactly), and not the stuffing about "participants in the punitive operation in the Donbass who were not baptized in the church of the Moscow Patriarchate."

Sure. And thank you for enriching the branch with the details of the incident. Only the actions of the "activists" do not become less idiotic from these details.

[dSK]

Hello Sergey!

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

What x ...

And then "after U.S - "even a flood", or "grass does not grow" ...

[Simon]

Quote: Going

According to the statement of the radicals, "the headquarters of the separatists and representatives of the FSB" is located in Lavra and the action is directed against them.

When God wants to punish, he takes away the mind.

Yes, idiots without reason in Ukraine became a lot!

[Lexus]

The Uniates and schismatics "Denisenkivtsi-Filaretovtsi" have been rubbing their hands for a long time, as they "squeeze" the Kiev Pechersk Lavra.

[Hoc vince]

Kiev Pechersk Lavra "wring out"
Why only Kiev-Pechersk Lavra, they want the Pochaev Lavra.
“At about noon, six buses drove up to the monastery (Bandera, Uniates and schismatics). People came out who called themselves representatives of the Kiev Patriarchate. Now they blocked the entrance, do not let the pilgrims, people are alarmed” 25.02.2014/XNUMX/XNUMX

[Lexus]

Across Ukraine, the number of seized and desecrated parishes goes to thousands. In 1995, in the same cathedral in Vladimir Cathedral, Russian Denisenkovets have been cursed. The Vatican’s hand was clearly not complete.

[Hoc vince]

"The Vatican’s hand was clearly not without." This is accurate, both in Poland and Ukraine.
According to popular legend, Ukraine will stand while the walls of St. Sophia Cathedral stand. 23.10.14/XNUMX/XNUMX the wall of Sofia of Kiev collapsed.

[newcomer]

interesting article on the cont about c14. By the way, the Yankees put it on the list of terrorism.

[Dormidont]

Oh these animals

[BMP-2]

These are not animals, they are zombies. Animals are wild and domestic, but zombies are only wild!

[CAT BAIYUN]

Perhaps I don’t understand something, but from what gingerbreads will the FSB go into foreign territory? Another department is engaged in this ...
Am I mistaken?

[BMP-2]

Just the clowns want to say that since 1991 the KGB has remained. Remember the joke:
- How is the service, father?
- Serving the Soviet Union!

[Captain Nemo]

Remember the archives of the ESSR?))))

[CAT BAIYUN]

Remember the joke:

surely
But about the "clowns" and what exactly they want to say - you can get lost in their motivation and determination of the stated root causes of behavior ...
But they are tired of their creativity. Already sick!

[Lelek]

Quote: KOT BYUN

But they are tired of their creativity. Already sick!

Nauseous and funny.

[assa67]

Well, what reason? in a moronic mask to come to the Temple .... for these banderlogs, such "actions" are simply fun ... however, they themselves consider their cretinism-patriotism ... only urgent isolation in a psychiatric clinic can save

[Terenin]

... But Moscow priests despite huge resonance continue to defend their position .... It’s not a child’s business, the kingdom of heaven is to him, everyone has already gotten this permanent Ukrainian HUGE RESONANCE for any reason, with the use of violence. Yes, that is useless to prove ...

[loginovich]

Battles from the Donbass are slowly moving into the Pechersk Lavra.

[Albatroz]

Quite sharp

[Sands Careers General]

Here are the clowns. Don’t feed bread, let me go, as if they don’t know how to do another.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Don’t feed bread, let me go, as if they don’t know how to do another.

What does it mean as if? most of these "artists" have already forgotten how to work. To skip this one doesn’t work ... it's fun, and they’re paid ... A layer of professionals is ripening, so to speak ...

[Maz]

Quote: Going

According to the statement of the radicals, "the headquarters of the separatists and representatives of the FSB" is located in Lavra and the action is directed against them.

When God wants to punish, he takes away the mind.

And you thought how? ETOGES do not go to the trunks of the police DNR. Yes, the Americans are not asleep, squeezing.

[Antares]

So that without Ukraine in Russia they would do b .. die b from boredom ..
If Ukraine did not exist, it would have to be invented ... otherwise the US debt is not inserted.
But the supply of material is lame. I have not seen a single article (except for reprints of Ukrainian ones) that is not biased and with one installation ..
But even in such an installation, they’re still better at driving priests than going to concerts. There, those have a sickly roof; let two business entities quarrel. Maybe one of the two will be divided. It will be easier.

[BMP-2]

Strange, I don’t remember a single unbiased reprint from Ukrainian. All with the same installation.

[Non liberoid Russian]

Lord, what nonsense nonsense ... cowardly, stupid, narrow-minded ... they only know how to fight with civilians ... and how to go to the front so immediately to grandmother in Voronezh

[Northern warrior]

If they are not stopped now, then the UOC-MP will soon be completely liquidated on the territory of 404, and its churches will become the property of the Filaret schismatics and the UGCC. Russia must, even must, protect the shrine of Russian Orthodoxy, otherwise it will be defeated by external and internal enemies, who will instantly feel our weakness and begin to tear us from all sides. Muslims are ready to die for their faith and shrines, and a great power does not react to aggression against it by the Vatican and the Zionists.

[sgr291158]

These stupid no longer know where to stick their noses.

[Captain Nemo]

Looks like they think that the Drozdov agent is hiding in the Lavra. And he was in Moscow a long time ago. Naive

[Vanek]

the protest at the walls of the Lavra began after it supposedly refused to funeral for the dead participants in a punitive operation in Donbass

They are not something that can not be funeral. They must be buried outside the walls of the cemetery.

[Uxus]

Quote: Lelek

Quote: svp67

I’m watching, God clearly helps them a little ...

God is not a fryer, he sees and punishes a hate, who deprives the mind, someone - money, and someone - life. Happy New Year, Ruin.

What kind of nonsense ???)))) Tanya sprinkle grass! Although not necessary
I already a little from laughter from a chair did not fall)))

[Uxus]

And here is where it all began:

In Zaporozhye, the police are working hard after clashes near the church of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate). The reason for the protests was the refusal of the priest from the UOC (MP) to funeral for the deceased child who was baptized in the church of the Kiev Patriarchate.

What happened

A two-year-old boy tragically died in Zaporozhye on December 31: a man who committed suicide fell from the window of a high-rise building.

At first, one priest of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate) refused to pray for the deceased boy when he learned that he was baptized in the church of the Kiev Patriarchate.

The child’s father said that the minister learned about this already during the procession.

“Mother cried, knelt, but that didn’t help,” he said. Then the parents turned to other churches of the UOC (MP) (most of them in Zaporozhye), but everywhere they were refused for the same reason.

All necessary ceremonies were conducted by the priest of the Church of St. Nicholas of the UOC of the Kiev Patriarchate.
https://www.currenttime.tv/a/28963269.html