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The Nikolaev shipbuilders sound alarm - Kiev doesn't want to sell the cruiser "Ukraine"

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The government does not want to sell the missile cruiser "Ukraine" to pay off debt to employees of the Nikolaev State Shipbuilding Plant, reports RIA News message from the chairman of the trade union committee of the enterprise Nikolay Golovchenko.


The Nikolaev shipbuilders sound alarm - Kiev doesn't want to sell the cruiser "Ukraine"


Unfortunately, we entered the new year with even greater debts. The debt to the laid-off workers is 65 million hryvnia (more than two million dollars). Since November 2014, the debt to those workers who stayed is more than 50 million hryvnia (over 1,7 million dollars). Some people owe 200 thousands of hryvnas (just over seven thousand dollars). These are pensioners, they are afraid that if they quit, they will be immediately forgotten,
told Golovchenko on the TV channel "Nikolaev".

According to him, “the money received from the transaction would be enough to pay off the debt to the employees.”

Recall that last year Petro Poroshenko signed a decree on the demilitarization of the missile cruiser "Ukraine".

According to the vice-president of the Nikolaev regional administration Vyacheslav Bonya, they plan to remove armaments from the ship and “sell what remains”.

There is a housing and turbines, they are in demand,
explained the official.

Construction of the cruiser began in 1984 year. With the collapse of the USSR in 1993, the ship was transferred to the Ukrainian side. In 1996, the project was frozen due to lack of funding.
Photos used:
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  1. VAGNER
    VAGNER 7 January 2018 08: 19
    +8
    The enterprise together with the workers were clearly going to sell .. Oh Ukraine!
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 7 January 2018 08: 26
      13
      The company has long died. Check out YouTube’s 2017 video of the shipyard 61 kommunards. There, the plant and the cruiser were removed from the copter. The video is just a fox
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 7 January 2018 08: 31
        +8
        It’s hard for workers to explain this, and they don’t want to hurt.
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 7 January 2018 08: 34
          +8
          There already trees on stocks have grown over the years of independence, what kind of workers are there?
          1. hrych
            hrych 7 January 2018 12: 01
            +4
            Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
            slipway trees have grown over the years of independence

            They would say that they decided to put them into spare parts, otherwise demilitarization sounds like turning into a liner for rainbow laughing
            Poroshenko signed a decree on the demilitarization of the Ukraine missile cruiser.

            Turn a predator in dash that
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      2. Logall
        Logall 7 January 2018 08: 32
        +6
        Well, post the video data! And then how are we going to search?
        1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 7 January 2018 08: 39
          +1
          My phone is old, I can’t repeat . Type in the search for Google the name in English that I indicated, and it will immediately be released. If it’s easy to insert
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 7 January 2018 08: 54
            21
            It seems to be. Admins, how many bukoff do your dumb robot need?
            1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
              Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 7 January 2018 08: 58
              +1
              This is a segment. It goes 4 minutes. There is a full version of the comrade below laid out
            2. Mavrikiy
              Mavrikiy 7 January 2018 10: 39
              +2
              Mdya ... The film "Stalker" is very reminiscent of.
              However, we have such wealth richly.
              Like there: the "demilitarization of the missile cruiser" is so pacific, and the next day, shell Donetsk.
            3. demo
              demo 7 January 2018 10: 56
              +3
              Impressed.
              However, scrap can be handed over and opened, after a while, to the sawmill.
              Look how much forest is growing.
            4. Antares
              Antares 7 January 2018 13: 31
              +3
              sad sight ....
            5. your1970
              your1970 7 January 2018 17: 33
              +2
              finished trailer for "Shadow of Chernobyl" (Stalker-2)
        2. LSA57
          LSA57 7 January 2018 08: 56
          17
          look please
          1. Piramidon
            Piramidon 7 January 2018 09: 19
            11
            Quote: LSA57
            look please

            Soon there will be nothing to turn into scrap metal, everything will turn into rusty dust. But there was such a plant.
          2. Captain Nemo
            Captain Nemo 7 January 2018 10: 45
            +5
            What a horror. Sorry for the people
            1. Serg koma
              Serg koma 7 January 2018 21: 32
              +3
              Quote: Captain Nemo
              What a horror.

              In a stranger's eye we see a mote ....
              [media = https: //ok.ru/video/5325456694]
              In the winter of 2015-2016, I went to Kurgan, where I once lived. That's what is now in place of the only wheeled tractor plant in Russia - the flea market of foreign goods.
          3. aszzz888
            aszzz888 7 January 2018 10: 54
            +2
            ... yeah, but petsk-drunk is trumpeting around the world about an economic miracle unnecessary ... laughing
          4. bratchanin3
            bratchanin3 7 January 2018 11: 09
            +1
            Yeah, that’s impressive! It turns out that Bandera is rich - there is so much iron for a long time.
      3. LSA57
        LSA57 7 January 2018 08: 58
        +2
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        The video is just a fox

        yes .... this is no longer a devastation, it’s a complete scribe
        1. Kot_Kuzya
          Kot_Kuzya 7 January 2018 09: 01
          +4
          That’s what they need, boredom! And how they screamed and still scream: "We are sluggish!". Just like Benderlogs from Mowgli.
          1. forester
            forester 8 January 2018 16: 38
            +1
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            That’s what they need, boredom! And how they screamed and still scream: "We are sluggish!". Just like Benderlogs from Mowgli.

            Russians live in Nikolaev under dill occupation, and in the occupied territory it cannot be otherwise - poverty and devastation
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 7 January 2018 09: 03
          +7
          If only they would arrange a subbotnik or something, in a more or less decent appearance. Sit, damn it, waiting for debts.
          1. forester
            forester 8 January 2018 16: 45
            +2
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            If only they would arrange a subbotnik or something, in a more or less decent appearance. Sit, damn it, waiting for debts.

            They are most likely waiting for the arrival of the Russian troops and the repayment of debts for the salary at the expense of the Russian budget, and they will not wait for anything from the Banderlozha power - they understand this
        3. Gray brother
          Gray brother 7 January 2018 09: 16
          +4
          Quote: LSA57
          yes .... this is no longer a devastation, it’s a complete scribe

          Yes, there you can take the entire plant for scrap, and not just a cruiser. Everything has rotted.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 7 January 2018 09: 55
            11
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Yes, there you can take the entire plant for scrap, and not just a cruiser. Everything has rotted.

            Yes, the whole state can be surrendered, rotted like the cruiser of the same name, a symbolic name. what
          2. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 7 January 2018 10: 45
            0
            Quote: Gray Brother
            Quote: LSA57
            yes .... this is no longer a devastation, it’s a complete scribe

            Yes, there you can take the entire plant for scrap, and not just a cruiser. Everything has rotted.

            "- Listen, what is it?
            - It's a pity for the bird (turbine)! "
      4. 210ox
        210ox 7 January 2018 09: 14
        +3
        Let them make a cruiser and the enterprise itself ... The Peremogi Museum ..
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        The company has long died. Check out YouTube’s 2017 video of the shipyard 61 kommunards. There, the plant and the cruiser were removed from the copter. The video is just a fox
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 7 January 2018 12: 01
          +2
          Quote: 210ox
          Let them make a cruiser and the enterprise itself ... The Peremogi Museum ..

          Since the collapse of the USSR, all of Ukraine has long been a museum of Peremogi. The edification of other states and peoples, which is not necessary to do with your country. And it is also clearly shown what is done with the state if traders come to power.
      5. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 7 January 2018 15: 53
        +1
        Why do they need a shipbuilding plant? It is necessary to establish production of lace panties in industrial volumes, but they will not let them into Europe ... it’s sad, of course ... request
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 7 January 2018 08: 51
      +4
      And who will sell it to hunting, if all the proceeds go to salary arrears. winked
      1. forester
        forester 8 January 2018 16: 36
        0
        Quote: siberalt
        And who will sell it to hunting, if all the proceeds go to salary arrears. winked

        I have another question - who will buy?
    3. Baloo
      Baloo 7 January 2018 09: 14
      +3
      Quote: VAGNER
      The enterprise together with the workers were clearly going to sell .. Oh Ukraine!

      I looked at this rusty trough, hmm ... how it all started. It is now cheaper to flood. Sell ​​the Honduras, insure the twin towers (9/11 will not be forgotten soon, it is surprising that no connection with the aliens has been revealed) in 24 companies for 9 lards and to melt somewhere along the way to Honduras.
      1. Rusland
        Rusland 7 January 2018 09: 18
        +8
        To Brazil, they are collected there.
      2. sedoj
        sedoj 7 January 2018 19: 07
        +1
        Quote: Balu
        I looked at this rusty trough, hmm ... how it all started.

        A rusty trough is, in my opinion, an unfinished bulk carrier. The cruiser melts against the wall - in the last frames it is briefly visible.
        1. ARES623
          ARES623 7 January 2018 21: 19
          +1
          Quote: sedoj
          The cruiser melts against the wall - in the last frames it is briefly visible.

          And the cruiser mockup can only be used as a target ship. The result is logical. Cry for this state-404 is not worth it. The more painfully it hits the bottom, the sooner they will understand the need for positive and pragmatic changes. Friendship with Russia will not be there for long. But mutually beneficial cooperation, even if not “fraternal” (which is even more beneficial for us), is better than today's political tensions.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 8 January 2018 18: 19
          +1
          Quote: sedoj
          Quote: Balu
          I looked at this rusty trough, hmm ... how it all started.

          A rusty trough is, in my opinion, an unfinished bulk carrier. The cruiser melts against the wall - in the last frames it is briefly visible.


          Trough like a trough, only with guns and rocket launchers. The Chinese refused. And not surprisingly, since 1990. at the wall. Did you run the engines at least once?
          1. sedoj
            sedoj 8 January 2018 21: 51
            +1
            I judged the frames from the video. Do you see here that the ship is rusty? I do not see. But, according to the text, it should be rusty.

            But this unfinished, really rusty:
  2. Rusland
    Rusland 7 January 2018 08: 20
    10
    To get turbines - to sort a box floor.
    1. Chichikov
      Chichikov 7 January 2018 08: 34
      13
      And where are they? Nobody served them for a quarter of a century. There, in cylinders, like Baba Yaga, everything was overgrown with cobwebs.
      1. Sharky
        Sharky 7 January 2018 11: 15
        +4
        There in the cylinders

        In Turbines there are no cylinders, mat. part would be pulled up first hi. And so yes, during the downtime there everything has already turned into a pile of scrap metal.
  3. LSA57
    LSA57 7 January 2018 08: 32
    +9
    and why do they need him? they have deeply modernized. one for the eyes is enough
  4. prior
    prior 7 January 2018 08: 40
    +5
    Sailed. Both the country and the cruiser. There is only one way out - both to pieces and to smelting.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 January 2018 08: 41
    +5
    Do not want to sell Ukraine? Yes, just a little "rollback" was offered. They will sell mom if the price is good ...
    1. forester
      forester 8 January 2018 16: 48
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Do not want to sell Ukraine? Yes, just a little "rollback" was offered. They will sell mom if the price is good ...

      her pet has long been “driven” at a reasonable price
  6. Herculesic
    Herculesic 7 January 2018 08: 42
    +3
    And the turbines that Russia paid for, do not want to give? Then let the money roll back! I would have solved the issue - I just started to arrest the Ukroin merchant ships, with their confiscation, and selling for scrap, until the Kiev military repays us ALL their debts!
    1. loginovich
      loginovich 7 January 2018 09: 20
      0
      Quote: Herkulesich
      began to arrest ukroinskie merchant ships, with their confiscation, and sale of scrap metal,

      Not possible, he is already gone.
  7. Vard
    Vard 7 January 2018 08: 43
    +1
    Buy through Egypt at the price of scrap metal ...
    1. Kot_Kuzya
      Kot_Kuzya 7 January 2018 09: 04
      +4
      What for is he needed? Everything has already rusted there. I think buying from ukrov with their kickbacks, then delivery to the place of cutting, cutting for scrap will all be more expensive than casting new steel from ore.
  8. KVU-NSVD
    KVU-NSVD 7 January 2018 08: 53
    +6
    Yes, it’s not that they don’t want to sell, he’s just at x ..., as it’s softer to say, nobody wants to buy. the cost of towing it to the place of cutting for metal is comparable to the profit from the sale of this metal (or maybe not comparable winked ) And the turbines might be of interest to the Chinese - but with this they were 10-15 years late
    1. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 7 January 2018 09: 33
      0
      Yes, cutting a ship is one more crap ....
  9. tchoni
    tchoni 7 January 2018 08: 55
    +4
    The problems of dill, the Russians do not care ... but the post-New Year price increase for gasoline - yes, it will happen))) Merry Christmas all! -)
    1. K-50
      K-50 7 January 2018 09: 14
      0
      Quote: tchoni
      The problems of dill, the Russians do not care ... but the post-New Year price increase for gasoline - yes, it will happen))) Merry Christmas all! -)

      Money is drunk at times more and is spent on “girls”, so people will be healthier if they spend a little more on gasoline. yes
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 7 January 2018 10: 03
        +1
        Quote: K-50
        Quote: tchoni
        The problems of dill, the Russians do not care ... but the post-New Year price increase for gasoline - yes, it will happen))) Merry Christmas all! -)

        Money is drunk at times more and is spent on “girls”, so people will be healthier if they spend a little more on gasoline. yes

        Someone like, my friend, someone like ..
        Although, sinful, this year I was already spending money on girls ... I bought Christmas gifts for my wife, mother, sister, mother-in-law, two daughters, one goddaughter ;-)
        1. Captain Nemo
          Captain Nemo 7 January 2018 10: 48
          +5
          Hold on. March 8 survive and free))) drinks
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 7 January 2018 09: 57
      +3
      Quote: tchoni
      The problems of dill, the Russians do not care ... but the post-New Year price increase for gasoline - yes, it will happen))) Merry Christmas all! -)

      First, the mistakes would be corrected in the comment laughing and do not speak for all Russians.
      1. tchoni
        tchoni 7 January 2018 10: 06
        +1
        Quote: vovanpain
        Quote: tchoni
        The problems of dill, the Russians do not care ... but the post-New Year price increase for gasoline - yes, it will happen))) Merry Christmas all! -)

        First, the mistakes would be corrected in the comment laughing and do not speak for all Russians.

        These are not mistakes, but a manner of speaking. And which of the Russians are concerned about the problems of Ukraine can go there and correct them. What is it that bits with bytes to useless chatter translate something? yakshi? -)
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 7 January 2018 10: 18
          +5
          Quote: tchoni
          These are not mistakes, but a manner of speaking.

          Bravo good Very funny way of speaking, but in the wrong place. wink
  10. K-50
    K-50 7 January 2018 09: 13
    +2
    Kiev does not want to sell the cruiser "Ukraine"

    What, even scrap metal is no longer bought from Raguli?
    1. VAGNER
      VAGNER 7 January 2018 09: 21
      +7
      Quote: K-50
      Kiev does not want to sell the cruiser "Ukraine"

      What, even scrap metal is no longer bought from Raguli?

      There’s nothing to buy there, you can just pick it up (for debts))))) Everyone is waiting for the sharing to begin!
      And then, it's time to send troops! The main thing is that the Russians do not miss this moment ...
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 7 January 2018 11: 21
        +4
        I suspect that everything is not so simple.

        Ukraine is the former territory of the Russian Empire and further the USSR.

        They just won’t give it to anyone.

        So that this territory will rot away for a long time and hard, until the balance of power in the world changes and Russia can return the territory without a big war.
    2. Hagalaz
      Hagalaz 7 January 2018 09: 35
      +1
      Before the state of scrap metal, the ship still needs to be cut. And this is problematic.
      1. VAGNER
        VAGNER 7 January 2018 15: 39
        +3
        Quote: Hagalaz
        Before the state of scrap metal, the ship still needs to be cut. And this is problematic.

        Undermine. So that the Russian did not get .. I think so!
        1. Hagalaz
          Hagalaz 7 January 2018 16: 00
          0
          Waste of explosives.) If we assume that Nikolaev Kakik Crimea will become Russian (which would not be bad), then this vessel will become our headache. It’s not good for anything ....
  11. ibn.shamai
    ibn.shamai 7 January 2018 09: 31
    +1
    Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
    The company has long died. Check out YouTube’s 2017 video of the shipyard 61 kommunards. There, the plant and the cruiser were removed from the copter. The video is just a fox

    Yes, the sight is sad! what
  12. cedar
    cedar 7 January 2018 09: 42
    +4
    They don’t want to, because it will look very symbolic. Sell ​​"Ukraine" for debts ...
  13. pafegosoff
    pafegosoff 7 January 2018 09: 45
    +2
    About six or seven years ago a peasant from Nikolaev came to us. He asked where our former neighbor, his childhood friend, had gone. In general, he escaped from Nikolaev, because without work ... The plant - fell apart. I sold the apartment. I wanted to look after us, but in our small Siberian town, apartments are two times more expensive than in Kiev ... In the end, I learned from friends that the peasant had moved to St. Petersburg. In-of. And he worked at the shipbuilding, sort of like the head of the site, or whatever. Then it was already clear that there was nothing to wait.
  14. fif21
    fif21 7 January 2018 10: 01
    +1
    He does not want and cannot, these are different concepts. Question- who wants to buy this galosh? And you can put an end to the factory. There are no orders from Russia, Europe has its own shipyards, China has its own. So tick with Nikolaev. hi
    1. Captain Nemo
      Captain Nemo 7 January 2018 10: 50
      +4
      The European Union killed Greek and Polish shipyards so that they would not compete with German
  15. Wolka
    Wolka 7 January 2018 10: 21
    0
    dill has never been and never will be in fact a sea power, despite access to the sea, its maximum is a coastal fleet and only
    1. ZAV69
      ZAV69 7 January 2018 11: 27
      +3
      Ukroina was originally conceived as an enemy of Russia, for a long 25 years it came to this result, so all available resources were either stolen or went into war. That's why they killed the plant (the only real customer was Muscovites). And everything else ...
      1. Antares
        Antares 7 January 2018 13: 40
        0
        Quote: ZAV69
        . That's why they killed the plant (the only real customer was Muscovites). And everything else ...

        for example PJSC "Black Sea Shipbuilding Plant" (ChSZ)
        the order of Preobrazhenskaya Trawl Fleet Base OJSC (Russia) for the construction of a series of universal transport refrigerated vessels of the Russian Bay type project is not clear.
        There was a statement on the construction of trawlers and gas carriers for the Russian Federation for $ 4 billion until 2020.
        In 2011-2013, a contract was implemented with the Dutch Damen Shipyards for the construction of a series of five container ships. In 2000-2012, two large freezer trawlers were built on the order of the same Preobrazhenskaya Trawl Fleet Base.
        I remind
        Such ships as the Empress Maria and the battleship Potemkin were made here. The enterprise survived everything: the First World War and the Great Patriotic War, and both ours and the Germans drowned it. Unfortunately, today the state simply does not have a program for developing its own fleet.
  16. Zomanus
    Zomanus 7 January 2018 10: 38
    +1
    Have you found a buyer for this stuff?
    There, maintaining the floating state of this under-ship is expensive.
    It’s clear that the supersky ship was planned,
    but after so many years of standing at the pier ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 7 January 2018 13: 07
      +1
      Quote: Zomanus
      It’s clear that the supersky ship was planned,
      but after so many years of standing at the pier ...

      Well, what kind of cruiser, see the cruiser type "Atlant"
      https://topwar.ru/24967-raketnye-kreysera-proekta
      -1164-atlant.html
  17. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 7 January 2018 10: 57
    +3
    This pile of scrap metal did not sink just because its birds were dirtied.

    Let them sell "Ukraine". The whole world will laugh, even the "Western partners", When Ukraine sells "Ukraine." If someone wants to buy.
  18. Berkut24
    Berkut24 7 January 2018 11: 01
    +1
    Mdya ... the welfare of the plant depends only on the delivery of scrap metal. Savages.
  19. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 11: 11
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    ... yeah, but petsk-drunk is trumpeting around the world about an economic miracle unnecessary ... laughing

    What a miracle! They sell everything, but what they did not sell will rot from rust. "Ukraine" will soon lie on to. Perhaps they will not be able to sell it. It seems that all of Ukraine, with such a leadership, will be completely at the bottom. recourse
  20. Bare
    Bare 7 January 2018 11: 13
    +1
    It remains to lift the moratorium on the land and then the villagers as krepaks along with the land will be given for long-term use, that is, forever, MONSANTO and the like.
  21. Simon
    Simon 7 January 2018 11: 13
    +1
    Quote: Sands Career General
    This pile of scrap metal did not sink just because its birds were dirtied.

    Let them sell "Ukraine". The whole world will laugh, even the "Western partners", When Ukraine sells "Ukraine." If someone wants to buy.

    So, Ukraine is almost sold to Americans bully
  22. Berkut154
    Berkut154 7 January 2018 11: 13
    +2
    Classics: cede or surrender?
  23. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 January 2018 11: 42
    +1
    ... dust + rot = ukrokakliya ... bully
  24. Moskovit
    Moskovit 7 January 2018 11: 44
    +6
    I remember the Soviet time, as nikolayevets looked for workers across the country. I don’t know how, but they even invited my father to work, and this is in Siberia, thousands of kilometers from Ukraine. He was a foreman, a locomotive driver. And we had family advice, I was little then, I didn’t have a vote)), but decided to stay, despite the good sn and warm climate there. All the same, there was everything and all relatives. And now I just bow to the baht belt for this decision.
  25. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 7 January 2018 14: 02
    0
    Quote: hrych
    Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
    slipway trees have grown over the years of independence

    They would say that they decided to put them into spare parts, otherwise demilitarization sounds like turning into a liner for rainbow laughing
    Poroshenko signed a decree on the demilitarization of the Ukraine missile cruiser.

    Turn a predator in dash that

    I still can’t recover. Such a fleet was ruined during the time of Yeltsin by selling and surrendering everything for the legs of Bush. This ship is the remnants of the former power of the empire. The Ukrainians would better drown it than sell it to us.
  26. turbris
    turbris 7 January 2018 15: 23
    0
    Of course, all this is very sad and people suffer because of the talkers-politicians who can not offer anything in return for the ditched. Talking about "aggression" is, of course, easier than not letting the famous giant plant die. It remains only to wait and believe that the people’s brains will become clear and they will find the strength to remove this trash from the authorities in Ukraine.
    1. Ivan Medvedev
      Ivan Medvedev 7 January 2018 17: 28
      +1
      What, what, will it clear up there?
  27. NF68
    NF68 7 January 2018 15: 54
    +1
    Who needs this piece of scrap metal.
  28. Servisinzhener
    Servisinzhener 7 January 2018 17: 24
    +1
    Damn just 1,7 million dollars. It’s quite affordable even for a Russian colonel wink
  29. Ivan Medvedev
    Ivan Medvedev 7 January 2018 17: 27
    0
    All signs of lying on the face. Saloids should understand that Piglets cannot be kept for a long time. Fat will not be tasty. Ato will run away.)
  30. kefan
    kefan 7 January 2018 19: 53
    0
    A good ship, only now it fell into the wrong hands.
  31. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 8 January 2018 13: 40
    +4
    ... what I see in the photo will work, except maybe on ferrous metal. Maybe there will be enough to close debts ... But to whom of the "upper ranks" are workers' debts interesting? So it’s too late to "sound the alarm" ... It's like drinking Borjomi if the kidneys are already in the toilet ....
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