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Alfa-Bank refused to serve the defense enterprises because of sanctions

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One of the largest Russian banks, Alfa-Bank, notified domestic defense enterprises that it was no longer servicing them because of the sanctions, said the first deputy chairman of the board of directors of a financial company, Oleg Sysuev.


Sysuev explained that the bank is not going to sever relations with the defense industry, but is seeking to reduce risks. According to him, the enterprises of the Russian defense complex made up the bulk of the bank’s loan portfolio.

Alfa-Bank refused to serve the defense enterprises because of sanctions


Earlier, the shareholder of the Alfa Group consortium, Mikhail Fridman, told about the narrowing of the client base - his interview was published in December in Forbes 29. Friedman said that due to restrictive measures, Alfa-Bank refused to serve defense enterprises. However, he noted that the bank has never had problems with sanctions. Meanwhile, in 2015, the bank had to close an office in New York because of the ban on US companies from investing in Russian stocks.

Earlier, Kommersant wrote that due to the tightening of US sanctions, a specialized bank will appear in Russia, which will deal with the maintenance of the military-industrial complex. According to the newspaper, the main candidate was the Russian Financial Corporation (RFK), owned by Rosoboronexport, which is part of Rostec.
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 4 January 2018 14: 11
    72
    That's the price for our bankers.
    And are they ours?
    1. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
      Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 4 January 2018 14: 12
      68
      Testing for the private "lice" of Russia's largest private bank Alfa Bank was successful! Moreover, they did not check their own here, but "their there." So it is worth depriving this private bank of ALL government customers. To reduce the risks along with the "risks" ...
      1. just exp
        just exp 4 January 2018 14: 14
        50
        I’m thinking, maybe the central bank may stop serving the alpha bank due to sanctions?
        1. allaykbar
          allaykbar 4 January 2018 14: 18
          28
          a woman with a cart - the mare is easier. Another bank will come to place “A” and will receive profit from operations. And in the military-industrial complex good money. so this decision will make "A" less than what it is now and it will be seen by the volume of funds in circulation

          Yes, and “A” allows itself a lot lately, this bank will end soon. In place of investors, I would be wary and look for a good offer in another repository
          1. Hoc vince
            Hoc vince 4 January 2018 14: 36
            59
            The article should have been called: "Alfa Bank has joined the anti-Russian sanctions."
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 4 January 2018 14: 39
              38
              Quote: Hoc vince
              "Alfa Bank has joined the anti-Russian sanctions."

              Alfa Bank refuses to work with Russian defense enterprises. Refuses out of fear of Western sanctions.
              And the owner of Alpha Sharagi announces this not somewhere else, but in an interview with Forbes magazine. Like, don’t touch us, we are good ...
              Personally, I am declaring a boycott of this whole sharaga.
              Which, by the way, makes money in Russia, including me. Boycott their alpha-bank, alpha-insurance, supermarkets Okay and all other sharazhki.

              There are enough decent companies and banks on the market, so I’m ready to pay them for services and trust my money. And the sharaga of Mr. Friedman will no longer receive a single ruble from me personally. Including his supermarkets Pyaterochka, Perekrestok and Karusel.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 4 January 2018 15: 52
                +3
                Alfa-Bank refused to serve the defense enterprises because of sanctions


                Forgot the story of Makarevich?
                I hope the listeners - (bank customers) will remind

              2. hrych
                hrych 4 January 2018 15: 55
                13
                Quote: Pancir026
                we are good ...

                Declare a boycott of the whole gang and wipe the smile wassat
                1. tracer
                  tracer 5 January 2018 16: 49
                  +1
                  It is certainly issued in a vulgar form, but the common among these smiles is a consanguineous communion with one not well-established southern people. Of course I do not want to offend anyone.
              3. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 4 January 2018 16: 17
                +8
                Quote: Pancir026
                supermarkets okay

                And where will you spend the products? wink
                And the keywords in the article are
                in 2015, the bank had to close a branch in New York due to the ban on American companies investing in Russian stocks.
                And "our" beloved government continues to keep the country's money in the US Treasury.
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 4 January 2018 16: 45
                  +9
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And where will you spend the products?

                  near a beautiful market. Without GMOs and other chemicals.
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And the keywords in the article are
                  In 2015, the bank had to close its New York branch due to a ban on American companies from investing in Russian shares.

                  Yeah .. how do you like this? The decision made by Alfa Bank only makes sense if it is directed against corruption in Russian business. But servicing defense industry enterprises is not a corruption activity or evidence of bankers’s contacts with Vladimir Putin and his criminal environment, which means that the matter is different.

                  I assume that we are talking about a pre-trial transaction, in which the Alfa Bank management transmitted information to Washington about certain corruption schemes, kickbacks, which the bank paid to enterprises for the opportunity to sit on gigantic funds secured by the state budget. This data was transferred in exchange for a guarantee of immunity. In addition, Alfa Bank, of course, made a commitment to get out of corruption schemes, breaking off relations with those customers who worked under these schemes. Only under such circumstances the unexpected step of one of the largest Russian banks becomes clear and readable.

                  Moreover, I am ready to assume that Peter Aven and his associates are not alone. With a high degree of probability, other agreements are also hastily concluded with businessmen from Russia, who, in order to preserve their assets abroad, are ready to open up all the corruption they know. "Https://life.ru/t/banks/1076056/ cht
                  o_zhdiot_alfa-bank_poslie_kamingh-auta_aviena
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 4 January 2018 17: 20
                    +5
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    near a beautiful market. Without GMOs and other chemicals.

                    Do you believe that yourself? Now on the market to buy home-made pork that is not stuffed with hormonal injections is unrealistic. And large supermarkets seriously monitor quality. request Another issue is that they need to limit margins and provide access to shelves to small local producers.
                    Quote: Pancir026
                    I guess

                    It seems to me much easier. Most of our defense industries are sanctioned, and lending them automatically puts the bank at risk.
                    I think the root of the problem is the nationality of bankers. Moreover, the analogies of famous artists and journalists are the majority of the liberals of Friedman's countrymen.
                    1. Cheldon
                      Cheldon 4 January 2018 19: 07
                      +2
                      in Polish their nationality is called-żyd
                    2. Pancir026
                      Pancir026 4 January 2018 23: 09
                      +4
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Now on the market to buy home-made pork that is not stuffed with hormonal injections is unrealistic

                      A colleague, maybe somewhere in Moscow and so .. but not with us.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And large supermarkets seriously monitor quality.

                      Well, it seems so to you. I had the opportunity to look from the inside.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Another issue is that they need to limit margins and provide access to shelves to small local producers.

                      But all these trading networks are against it.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      It seems to me much easier. Most of our defense industries are sanctioned, and lending them automatically puts the bank at risk.

                      Since this bank prefers the West, let it try to work there, earning on their citizens, in Russia it should do it. Moreover, there is nothing and why not in the defense industry.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      most liberals are Friedman's countrymen.

                      Well, that’s practically what it is .. we look at the letter of the old intelligentsia to Bortnikov’s speech and see who is there ..
                    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 23: 23
                      +2
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Now on the market to buy home-made pork that is not stuffed with hormonal injections is unrealistic.

                      why?!
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And large supermarkets seriously monitor quality.

                      ? !!!!
                      It seems to me that everything is exactly the opposite
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 5 January 2018 08: 26
                        0
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        why?!

                        From that. Familiar keep pigs in Sancheleevo. A bit in the know.
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        ? !!!!

                        Because supermarkets are fined for violations, and fined seriously.
                  2. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 4 January 2018 17: 35
                    16
                    Well, how can you not remember Stalin again!
              4. lis-ik
                lis-ik 4 January 2018 22: 36
                +5
                Quote: Pancir026
                Quote: Hoc vince
                "Alfa Bank has joined the anti-Russian sanctions."

                Alfa Bank refuses to work with Russian defense enterprises. Refuses out of fear of Western sanctions.
                And the owner of Alpha Sharagi announces this not somewhere else, but in an interview with Forbes magazine. Like, don’t touch us, we are good ...
                Personally, I am declaring a boycott of this whole sharaga.
                Which, by the way, makes money in Russia, including me. Boycott their alpha-bank, alpha-insurance, supermarkets Okay and all other sharazhki.

                There are enough decent companies and banks on the market, so I’m ready to pay them for services and trust my money. And the sharaga of Mr. Friedman will no longer receive a single ruble from me personally. Including his supermarkets Pyaterochka, Perekrestok and Karusel.

                If everyone thought like you, then we would not lose small and medium businesses. Unfortunately, convenience stores will soon die out, as a class and the bulk of consumers will buy the same bread, at a price of one hundred rubles per loaf, here it is the policy of network retailers.
            2. Pax tecum
              Pax tecum 4 January 2018 14: 43
              28
              This is necessary, so do not be afraid to lick the American "partners" ...
              Cynicism of the highest measure, coupled with the absurd!
              Why be surprised? Jewry!
              Our ancestors spoke easier and reflected the essence - ...
          2. Nikolay Fedorov
            Nikolay Fedorov 4 January 2018 14: 54
            28
            Quote: allaykbar

            Yes, and “A” allows itself a lot lately, this bank will end soon. In place of investors, I would be wary and look for a good offer in another repository

            Since Alfa-Bank created deliberate problems for Uralvagonzavod to get difficulties with Armata, advertising managers from Alfa-Bank called me a couple of times with an offer to be serviced by them. I enjoyed my answer: "I like the Uralvagonzavod and our Armata tank, and I really don't like the Americans and the banks that serve them." If all businessmen who love their homeland Russia say the same to Alfa Bank, then he will have to bring him to his beloved America, although he is not expected there.
          3. Svarog
            Svarog 4 January 2018 15: 22
            +5
            Quote: allaykbar
            Yes, and “A” allows itself a lot lately, this bank will end soon. In place of investors, I would be wary and look for a good offer in another repository

            Yeah, hello again to Sberbank ...
            1. Lexus
              Lexus 4 January 2018 16: 09
              +3
              All of them are smeared in one world, money. Radish horseradish is not sweeter.
        2. NKVD
          NKVD 4 January 2018 14: 59
          +5
          Central Bank branch of the US Federal Reserve. Didn’t pay attention whose coat of arms is emblazoned on Russian coins and banknotes?
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 21
            10
            Quote: NKVD
            Central Bank branch of the US Federal Reserve

            This is a legend ...
            Quote: NKVD
            Didn’t pay attention whose coat of arms is emblazoned on Russian coins and banknotes?

            And whose?
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 4 January 2018 16: 01
              +7
              It
              And how is this "colonel" Golovan Jack, after the New Year became a "colonel general"?
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 4 January 2018 16: 21
                10
                "Lysnul" see offset .... wassat
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                This is a legend ...

                Legends are usually created on real events. wink
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 16: 23
                11
                You need to be less religious ... Gardamir negative
                Quote: Gardamir
                And how is this "colonel" Golovan Jack, after the New Year became a "colonel general"?

                It is a sin to envy ... and there is nothing to envy No.
                1. Gardamir
                  Gardamir 4 January 2018 16: 30
                  +7
                  You need to be less religious.
                  I'm just curious, especially since you are my personal commentator.
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 17: 14
                    10
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    You need to be less religious.
                    I'm just curious ...

                    Yabeda you wink
                    Quote: Gardamir
                    you are my personal commentator

                    Do not take too much on yourself?
                    But the fact that you will not die of modesty is for sure laughing
                    Go on ... make laugh yes
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        4. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 4 January 2018 22: 14
          +2
          I’m thinking, maybe the central bank may stop serving alpha bank due to sanctions
          Yes, just lose the license. For others to be discouraged. With subsequent nationalization.
        5. Skif83
          Skif83 6 January 2018 10: 54
          0
          And who do you think the Central Bank belongs to? First you need to nationalize the Central Bank itself, as well as, in fact, issue Russian currency. What is not Russian currency, because does not have the necessary state attributes!
          And bankers sabotaging the Russian economy, into cellars, friends, into cellars ... Lubyanka! Assets nationalize!
        6. leshiy076
          leshiy076 6 January 2018 19: 16
          0
          Central Bank must first stop serving the Fed
        7. Sige
          Sige 7 January 2018 10: 22
          0
          And how is our central bank different from alpha bank?
          Both are subordinate to the American central bank.
          Both do what they are told in America.
      2. Professor
        Professor 4 January 2018 14: 14
        33
        Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
        Testing for the private "lice" of Russia's largest private bank Alfa Bank was successful! Moreover, they did not check their own here, but "their there."

        Before you run into private traders, show us a branch of Sberbank in Crimea.
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 4 January 2018 14: 18
          36
          Ha, and how is Gref different from Aven? One gang.
          Another thing is why Gref runs Sberbank? Probably because the same as Chubais is still with the money.
          But witnesses of KhPP try not to discuss these issues.
          1. allaykbar
            allaykbar 4 January 2018 14: 22
            14
            But witnesses of KhPP try not to discuss these issues.


            when pereira // the sternum becomes president, he will point out how banks should work, huh)

            Will you tell bankers where to open branches and what should be the exchange rate? Well, since the guarantor cannot do this

            and what else will you do that the guarantor did not do? Will you issue a decree so that everyone lives well and well? And cancel the taxes?
            1. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 4 January 2018 14: 33
              +6
              But describe what happens if 1) they begin to allow departure from Russia without a stamp in the passport from the competent authorities 2) tanks will be brought into Moscow with orders not to spare spares, 3) and the Central Bank of Russia will set the dollar, say, 3 rubles.
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 14: 39
                13
                What nonsense, sorry my French negative
                1. mikh-korsakov
                  mikh-korsakov 4 January 2018 14: 58
                  +6
                  Pourqua? And what is the nonsense? Following the example of the Emergency Committee, only without the idiocy and cowardice of its authors
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 08
                    +5
                    Quote: mikh-korsakov
                    Following the example of the GKChP ...

                    Quote: mikh-korsakov
                    will begin to allow departure from Russia without a stamp in the passport from the competent authorities

                    belay
                    Quote: mikh-korsakov
                    The Central Bank of Russia will establish the dollar, say, 3 rubles

                    belay
                    What side is the GKChP?
                    1. mikh-korsakov
                      mikh-korsakov 4 January 2018 15: 41
                      11
                      I do not feel so sophisticated in politics as to propose the measures you have listed and quoted by you as a guide to action. But it’s incomprehensible to me and such a “zagogulin” annoys me. Our leadership and our media, with a sense of masochist, like to tell how cleverly Putin friends and partners pressed Russia. Authorities say vicious attacks will not go unanswered. but become in the position of an answering machine. Here comes the fantasy, and what happens if we hit an adult on our oligarchs and their masters. Clear. that there will be inspired "popular" protests from Sobchak lovers. Iran’s experience has shown that to suppress protests, it’s enough to block messengers and eliminate about 20 protestants. This requires a structure similar in shape to the GKChP. One gets the impression that only a dictatorship can save Russia.
                      1. Gardamir
                        Gardamir 4 January 2018 17: 20
                        +4
                        only dictatorship can save Russia.
                        So yes, but do not forget that liberals, when they need to, also become dictators.
            2. Pereira
              Pereira 4 January 2018 14: 58
              +8
              allaykbar Today, 14: 22 ↑


              Swim finely, my friend. You have superficial ideas about the system of state power, hence such a poor fantasy. Have you not had Left SRs in your family?

              And also here that interested me. I just mentioned in the posts of Grudinin, and you remember and reminded. Is your memory just good or is it for work?
              1. allaykbar
                allaykbar 4 January 2018 15: 07
                +2
                Well, if not a guarantor, then sternum, I still believe that you are not for bulk)
              2. Svarog
                Svarog 4 January 2018 16: 23
                +5
                Quote: Pereira
                Is your memory just good or is it for work?

                No, they have such a job, it’s even funny .. The society of this site doesn’t perceive them already .. They put their own pluses))
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                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 4 January 2018 16: 50
                    +5
                    Quote: allaykbar
                    Abram, you're funny.

                    How many emotions can be seen at the point)) And you know that according to the rules of the site you are supposed to ban for insult))?
                    1. allaykbar
                      allaykbar 4 January 2018 16: 55
                      +2
                      Abram, write a statement! I have no doubt in your talents as a writer
            3. 210ox
              210ox 4 January 2018 15: 53
              +7
              Grudinin. I also want this very much. In principle, he is he and only he can compete with the current chapter ..
        2. Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Aristarkh Lyudvigovich 4 January 2018 14: 29
          +8
          Quote: Professor
          Show us a branch of Sberbank in Crimea.

          Well, Sber does not work in Crimea directly, does not want to get extra sticks to the wheels from the EU. Personally, the RESULT is important to me: in Crimea there are a lot of banks of their own, one of which is Sber's railroad conductor - through it there is cooperation, so money is cashed out. People care about the sign, where will they take their own money?
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          2. Des10
            Des10 5 January 2018 16: 47
            +1
            Three times I was in Crimea - Yalta, Koktebel, Yevpatoriya - there were no problems with the SBbank card. You're right.
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 14: 49
          +2
          Quote: Professor
          Before you run into private traders, show us a branch of Sberbank in Crimea.

          and graf up
          1. Svist
            Svist 6 January 2018 23: 11
            +1
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            and graf up

            Grefyak on gilyaku? laughing
        4. Tusk
          Tusk 4 January 2018 14: 50
          +5
          Quote: Professor
          Before you run into private traders, show us a branch of Sberbank in Crimea.

          We will definitely show .. Something your have wondered, usurers! And I think it very well .. Bedbugs from the body of Russia, begin to fall away. And thank God !
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        6. Okolotochny
          Okolotochny 4 January 2018 22: 26
          +5
          Professor, is there a "private trader" - did the bank "Russia" hear about this? It works in Crimea.
      3. Reserve officer
        Reserve officer 4 January 2018 14: 43
        15
        Something inspired from the classics:
        “And now Fedya tell Vasya all the same in normal language.
        “This bad man will betray us at the first danger ...”
      4. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 14: 50
        +4
        Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
        Testing for the private "lice" of Russia's largest private bank Alfa Bank was successful!

        and now there would be a check on the lice of Russian citizens to take and withdraw their money
      5. seti
        seti 4 January 2018 15: 38
        +6
        Do you even understand what is written in the article? Or the main thing is to write a patriotic comment. Maybe one more star will be fastened to one place ..
        Alfa Bank has notified domestic defense enterprises that it is no longer servicing them due to sanctions. The bank is commercial so this is his right. Moreover, it hits his profit directly.
        What in return? And in return, a specialized (state-owned !!) bank will be created to deal with the maintenance of the military-industrial complex. According to the publication, the main candidate was the Russian Finance Corporation (RFK), owned by Rosoboronexport, which is part of Rostec.
        Catch it? So everything is fine and hello sanction.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 4 January 2018 15: 59
          13
          This is not excellent. The actions of one of the main banks of the country touched upon the defense of the state. And if God forbid the hostilities begin? Friedmans will go to the trenches. In the best case, hit the road with the overwork yes At worst, they will begin to harm.
          Quote: seti
          Do you even understand what is written in the article? Or the main thing is to write a patriotic comment. Maybe one more star will be fastened to one place ..
          Alfa Bank has notified domestic defense enterprises that it is no longer servicing them due to sanctions. The bank is commercial so this is his right. Moreover, it hits his profit directly.
          What in return? And in return, a specialized (state-owned !!) bank will be created to deal with the maintenance of the military-industrial complex. According to the publication, the main candidate was the Russian Finance Corporation (RFK), owned by Rosoboronexport, which is part of Rostec.
          Catch it? So everything is fine and hello sanction.
          1. seti
            seti 4 January 2018 16: 37
            +4
            So you want to say that our commercial structures should not have the right to choose? In this case, it concerns Alfa Bank. Refused well and to hell with them. All UPU transactions will be made through the RFK. That is, under state control. This is bad ? In my opinion, good.
            I’ll write again for those who don’t think - a private bank is their right and choice. They preferred to hit their pocket. This is their own business. And you do not mess with Alfa Bank - it continues to operate in the country 4о4 and quite successfully. By the way, why is our dear Sberbank still not noted in the Russian Crimea?
            So not everything is as clear as you would like.
          2. seti
            seti 4 January 2018 16: 40
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            This is not excellent. The actions of one of the main banks of the country touched upon the defense of the state. And if God forbid the hostilities begin? Friedmans will go to the trenches. In the best case, hit the road with the overwork

            It is never too late to nationalize the property of traitors. As well as giving a one-year ticket on 25 .. But in accordance with the Law. Judging by this article, Alfa Bank did not violate the law.
          3. INVESTOR
            INVESTOR 4 January 2018 17: 49
            +1
            I read so many comments, a lot of sensible ones, and there are so few advantages for them. It seems that people feel sorry for the virtual pluses, but if the question comes up for money, then everyone will turn out to be for himself. Why are you people so greedy and evil? The article is needed in the top, so that it hangs on the site for a month.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 5 January 2018 22: 00
          0
          Quote: seti
          The bank is commercial so this is his right. Moreover, it hits his profit directly.

          so maybe he will then receive profits not in Russia?
      6. g1v2
        g1v2 4 January 2018 17: 08
        10
        Friedman with sidekick Aven - one of the last members of the seven-bankers. At one time, they adopted Putin's ultimatum to choose either power or money, but they themselves have not changed. These guys from the 90s dream of returning there. When money was above power. They do not associate themselves with Russia in any way. They just make money here. And it would be strange if a Lviv Jew and an active sponsor of the European Jewish Foundation Fridman became a patriot of the Russian Federation, against which his Lviv and European friends are actively fighting. I will not be surprised if he deducts to the ATO monthly. request
        In general, maybe I am biased, but in fact, Friedman and Aven are the dearest people who are sleeping and see something useful for Russia to do, but I personally do not trust them from the word "completely." And in my opinion, the special services should take a look at them - with whom they communicate, where they invest money, which enterprises are trying to bankrupt, whom they sponsor, etc. Yes, and Nabiulina should be worth watching. How are they with financial statements? Do investors transfer money to offshore? Do they cheat with reporting? Maybe they had an audit left? Maybe the Central Bank needs to check them yourself? There is an opinion that there is something interesting there. wink
      7. Mikhail m
        Mikhail m 5 January 2018 11: 57
        +1
        The last time the list of authorized banks in the field of state defense order was updated in early October. Now there is no list on the regulator’s website, Interfax reports.

        Previously, the list included: Sberbank, VTB, Gazprombank, Russian Agricultural Bank, All-Russian Regional Development Bank, Novikombank, Russia and St. Petersburg Bank.

        The list is now closed, but Alfa Bank is unlikely to appear on it. And who throws on the fan, I would like to understand.
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      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 4 January 2018 14: 22
        19
        Quote: starogil
        This is the price of the Guarantor - werewolf.

        What does the guarantor have to do with it? fool Does he own this Alpha? Just with the elections, the last mind worsens people. request
        Quote: Professor
        Before you run into private traders, show us a branch of Sberbank in Crimea.

        Why shouldn’t Oleg run into them? Where are they working in Russia or in Israel? And whose laws are they obliged to comply with.
        1. allaykbar
          allaykbar 4 January 2018 14: 25
          +9
          Along with the elections, the last mind worsens people. 


          Do you really think that the person who left such a comment is able to think and analyze? just have a chat on the forum
        2. Pancir026
          Pancir026 4 January 2018 14: 27
          17
          Quote: 79807420129
          What does the guarantor have to do with it? Does he own this Alpha? Just with the elections, the last mind worsens people.

          Yes?
          What is this?
          MOSCOW, Dec 21 - RIA News. The Russian railway operator First Freight Company (Freight One, part of the UCL holding) plans to acquire up to 2018 wagons in 5, but cannot buy them from Uralvagonzavod (UVZ) due to US sanctions against this manufacturer, told reporters Freight One General Director Oleg Bukin.

          “We plan to buy up to 5 thousand next year ... It is not clear who to buy from, because Tikhvin (Tikhvin Car-Building Plant - ed.) Does not sell yet, or names some unacceptable prices. Uralvagonzavod, from which it would probably be ready to buy , is under sanctions. On the one hand, we want to buy from them, but on the other hand we don’t understand how this can be done, "Bukin said. https://ria.ru/economy/20171221/1511396230.
          html
          So who is responsible for what and who has blown it down, since this is possible in the country?
          Remember the old Soviet joke about Luis Corvalan and the drunken locksmith?

          - I don’t know where this Chilya is, I don’t know who this Corvalol is, but if they don’t let him go tomorrow, I’ll go to work!

          And here a completely logical question arises: how can this even be ??? What is the connection between the Washington elder and the Ural uncle? And what about sanctions?

          Uralvagonzavod is part of Rostec, which is indeed under sanctions. And with foreign "partners" it is now difficult for him to trade. It's true.

          But, damn them, here they are not! Here is a native Russian company! What's the matter, "patriots" of the hrenov? What is in the way? What is the reason?
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 4 January 2018 14: 44
            +8
            "And the logical question arises here: how can this even be ???
            What is the connection between the Washington elder and the Ural uncle? And what about the sanctions? "////

            Under sanctions fall not only the parent companies, but also their daughters.
            Banks are afraid to give loans, because they block all activities for
            abroad, if caught on "sanctions". And no Russian companies have the cash for a large purchase / order. Therefore, big business is paralyzed.
            (You in vain in Russia laughed at Obama when he uttered his famous phrase. He expressed himself too figuratively, but correctly).
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 4 January 2018 15: 10
              +8
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "And the logical question arises here: how can this even be ???

              The answer is, in a normal country, with a management system not imposed from the outside, this cannot be, therefore, a game of the market and other liberal dregs. It's time to end.
            2. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 4 January 2018 16: 15
              +7
              Summary. Do business in Russia should only banks with Russian capital. The rest - nationalize!
            3. MMX
              MMX 4 January 2018 17: 48
              +2
              Quote: voyaka uh
              "And the logical question arises here: how can this even be ???
              What is the connection between the Washington elder and the Ural uncle? And what about the sanctions? "////
              .
              (You in vain in Russia laughed at Obama when he uttered his famous phrase. He expressed himself too figuratively, but correctly).


              Nobody in the world can do something with the Russian economy, which Obama spoke about. With smaller countries, they are busy for half a century and without success. The state is a special entity, with it not as a joint-stock company. You don’t have to go far - Ukraine is not capable of servicing external debt on its own, but nothing: they sing “shynevmerlu”, proudly conduct torchlight processions, arm the army, etc., etc. Even S. Korea and Cuba live and develop. And who knows, maybe the United States will survive))
              In this case, in essence, nothing serious happened. Alpha and so the minuscule market in the defense sector occupied. Therefore, there is rather a gesture of demonstrative (political).
          2. alexmach
            alexmach 4 January 2018 14: 45
            +1
            Could it be that the native Russian company operates in the international market too?
          3. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 14: 45
            +9
            Quote: Pancir026
            But, damn them, here they are not! Here is a native Russian company!

            Go learn the materiel.
            Quote: Vika
            The owner of 99,99% of the company’s shares is dutch USIL Rail B.V. (UCL Rail BV)

            This is about Freight One, yes.
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              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 24
                +7
                Quote: Pancir026
                sit flat on the chair mr security guard

                You yourself ... "Mr. Guard" ... Armor wassat
                Quote: Pancir026
                You recommend it to yourself

                Something else is not clear about the "native Russian company"?
                You ask don't be shy yes
          4. BLOND
            BLOND 4 January 2018 14: 48
            +4
            In the "poured", but it seems, and answered ...))
            "In the garden of elderberry and uncle in Kiev" This is in the original
            You there in the course of the Censor became closely (or bored)
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              1. BLOND
                BLOND 4 January 2018 16: 19
                +3
                I read your posts in two days ... (fruitfully, I'm talking about quantity))
                At the expense of the Censor .. I was mistaken (just the first impression) You are not from there, but you are very tired for today, you have to be kinder to people - you shut your mouth to everyone.
                At the expense of BLONDE - yes, I’m bald for 20 years already, but what is wrong with Blondes (enlighten)
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 4 January 2018 23: 13
                  0
                  Quote: BLOND
                  At the expense of BLONDE - yes, I’m bald for 20 years already, but what is wrong with Blondes (enlighten)

                  You know, there is a well-known floorboard about hair and bald head ... do you want to read it or will you find it yourself?
                  Quote: BLOND
                  you have to be kinder to people

                  To thinking people, the attitude is good, to fans and actions are different.
                  1. BLOND
                    BLOND 10 January 2018 08: 50
                    0
                    Above, I wrote about your Fan and its performance, but you did not understand!
                    nothing to blame on the mirror if erysipelas crooked
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          5. Svarog
            Svarog 4 January 2018 16: 31
            +6
            Quote: Pancir026
            But, damn them, here they are not! Here is a native Russian company! What's the matter, "patriots" of the hrenov? What is in the way? What is the reason?

            The reason is simple, and I regularly point to it, our liberal government, not ours at all. They store overpowered / stolen abroad. They don’t invest a dime in Russia, they only drain natural resources. According to some estimates, about 10 trillion dollars have been withdrawn from Russia over 10 years, can you imagine what the sum is? The Pentagon’s budget is 600 lard per year. Imagine that this money would remain in Russia and work ... Therefore, you need to vote for Grudinin! He will stop this theft.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 18: 00
              +4
              Quote: Svarog
              According to some estimates, about 10 trillion dollars have been withdrawn from Russia over 10 years.

              Proof in the studio ... so far, apart from your desire to control, nothing is visible.
              Quote: Svarog
              On this need to vote for Grudinin! He will stop this theft

              Grudinin come - order navede (s) laughing
              PS: On this... Therefore, you need to write in Russian correctly learn, for starters ... Svarog negative
              1. Pancir026
                Pancir026 4 January 2018 23: 20
                +3
                Quote: Golovan Jack
                Proof in the studio ... so far, apart from your desire to control, nothing is visible.

                I help adjust the sharpness of vision ..
                http://refru.ru/capital.pdf
                Since 2001, average annual prices for Russian oil have increased four or even five times. Prices for gas and other goods increased at a similar rate. As a result, in 2002-2015, sales revenue grew by $ 2,42 trillion. Almost 88% of revenue growth was due to price increases and only 12% of the increase in exports.

                After taking into account the estimated volumes and prices for the export of oil, natural gas and oil products from 2016, in 2002-2016, revenue increased by a total of more than $ 2,53 trillion, and together with other goods to $ 3 trillion.

                Where are the pennies, Zin?
                And ... here they are ...
                The wealth brought by the Russians offshore since 1990, by 2015 amounted to about 75% of the country's national income. The same amount of “official” financial assets of all Russian households is estimated by analysts at the US Bureau of Economic Research (NBER). In fact, wealthy Russians keep the same financial condition abroad as all Russians - domestically.
                the share under the control of 10% of the richest Russians has grown rapidly and now accounts for 45-50% of national income, the share under the control of 1% of the richest - 20-25%, more than in the United States. The share of the most unsecured Russians - pensioners and low-paid workers - fell to 18% of national income. Credit Suisse estimated inequality even higher: 10% of the richest Russians own 89% of the total wealth of all Russian households. Https: //www.vedomosti.ru/economics/a
                rticles / 2017/08/23/730605-v-ofshorah-stolko-zhe
                Beauty .... you are standing guard over the interests of those who plundered the country, you yourself have a nest egg in a Swiss bank. Why are you so worried about the result of March 18?
                Withdrawal of capital from Russia is enormous, Sberbank chief analyst Mikhail Matovnikov: capital outflows are $ 15–20 billion per year, and in some years reached $ 30–50 billion. In 2013–2015. 1,2 trillion rubles were illegally withdrawn from Russia due to fictitious export-import operations, the Accounts Chamber estimated. And according to estimates by the Boston Consulting Group, almost a third of the $ 2 trillion of private money of Russians was in 2013-2014. in offshore. According to their forecasts, by 2019 this share will not change much.
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 23: 29
                  +5
                  Quote: Pancir026
                  I help adjust the sharpness of vision ..

                  You, as always, succeed ... not very request
                  Quote: Svarog
                  According to some estimates, about 10 trillion dollars withdrawn from Russia in 10 years

                  That is - a trillion per year.
                  Svarog a little of that ... reported. It happens to him.
                  Among your "multibooks" this (a trillion a year) ... is not visible, not once.
                  Sit down, WIND (2) negative
                  1. Pancir026
                    Pancir026 4 January 2018 23: 41
                    +2
                    Quote: Golovan Jack
                    You, as always, succeed ... not very

                    So you can’t do it at all, tongue except pulling an owl on the globe. contrary to her wishes
                    After taking into account the estimated volumes and prices for the export of oil, natural gas and oil products from 2016, in 2002-2016, revenue increased by a total of more than $ 2,53 trillion, and together with other goods to $ 3 trillion.
                    Where are the pennies, Zin?
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 00: 56
                      +5
                      Quote: Pancir026
                      Where are the pennies, Zin?

                      It seemed to me that I asked a question.
                      And by the way, not to you, but to comrade Svarog.
                      And for some reason you climbed up to answer, without knowledge and not in the subject ... negative
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 14: 48
          +6
          Quote: 79807420129
          Does he own this Alpha?

          no, not he, but the central bank can revoke the license
          1. 79807420129
            79807420129 4 January 2018 14: 51
            +6
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            no not him

            Vladimir exactly yes hi
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            but the central bank may revoke the license

            So a CentroBank colleague or Putin? Agree, these are two different things. hi
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 15: 46
              +2
              sorry, but let's really if the GDP orders nabiullina is not going anywhere
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 14: 53
            11
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: 79807420129
            Does he own this Alpha?

            no not him but Central Bank may revoke a license

            Firstly - there’s nothing to revoke a license for now.
            Secondly, the Central Bank is not directly subordinate to either the President or the government.
            And ninth, Alpha herself is an evil pinocchio - to lose a large piece of guaranteed money ... this must be managed.
            However, I think I think that this is, rather, an attempt to "save the face": after hitting a UVZ, it is unlikely that someone from the defense industry is very interested in working with Alpha.
            The bank is squabble, the owners own yes
            1. Pancir026
              Pancir026 4 January 2018 15: 01
              +7
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              The bank is squabble, the owners own

              What’s the heroin of Friedman’s? Http: //www.compromat.ru/page_26814.htm
              and why is this character. does it still have something in the country?
              http://www.mzk1.ru/2017/03/alfa-grupp-opium-dlya-
              naroda-i-opg /
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 13
                +8
                Quote: Pancir026
                What is Friedman's heroine?

                That you, the campaign, it is better to know. I do not use silage.
                By the way, this, ahem, character studied a couple of courses younger than me ... like, however, Khan.
                So what I say - I know.
                Other things are not for me, I had no business with them and have no. And I do not recommend to others laughing
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                    1. Pancir026
                      Pancir026 4 January 2018 16: 23
                      +4
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      In the brains ... more precisely, in their lack.

                      Thank you. I will know what this, you have, not at all.
            2. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 15: 51
              +2
              Quote: Golovan Jack
              Secondly, the Central Bank is not directly subordinate to either the President or the government.

              and to whom ?!
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 56
                +6
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                and to whom ?!

                Vladimir, read ... primary sources:
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 19: 42
                  0
                  thank you for the source, but according to it indirectly obey the president
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 19: 45
                    +4
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    according to him indirectly obey the president

                    Not personally. And not only to the President. And strictly within the powers of the NSF.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 21: 17
                      0
                      depending on how you look
                      The recall of the members of the National Financial Council is carried out by the state authority that sent them to the National Financial Council.

                      that is, those who disagree can be recalled read dismiss
            3. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 18: 07
              +1
              Article 846. Conclusion of a bank account agreement
              GUARANTOR:

              See comments on Article 846 of the Civil Code.

              1. When concluding a bank account agreement, a client or a person designated by him shall open a bank account on the terms agreed by the parties.

              2. The bank is obliged to conclude a bank account agreement with a client who has applied to open an account on the conditions announced by the bank for opening accounts of this type, which meet the requirements stipulated by law and banking rules established in accordance with it.

              The Bank shall not be entitled to refuse to open an account, the performance of the relevant operations for which is provided by law, the constituent documents of the bank and the permit (license) issued to it, unless this refusal is caused by the bank's inability to accept banking services or is permitted by law or other legal acts .

              In case of unreasonable evasion of the bank from concluding a bank account agreement, the client is entitled to present to him the requirements provided for in paragraph 4 of Article 445 of this Code
              1. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 18: 15
                +4
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Article 846. Conclusion of a bank account agreement

                Quote: Article
                Sysuev explained that the bank is not going to immediately break off relations with the defense industry, but seeks to reduce risks. According to him, the enterprises of the Russian defense complex made up the bulk loan portfolio

                Vladimir, from the context (as it were) it is obvious that “servicing” here means lending ... and not at all opening a bank account.
                And whom to lend - then each bank is free to decide for itself request
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 19: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Golovan Jack
                  then by "service" is meant lending ... and not at all opening a bank account.

                  "The Bank is not entitled to refuse to open an account"
                  1. Golovan Jack
                    Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 20: 01
                    +4
                    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                    "The Bank is not entitled to refuse to open an account"

                    Duc, this ... he did not refuse, sort of like, no?
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 21: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: Golovan Jack
                      Duc, this ... he did not refuse, sort of like, no?

                      let's consider each other smart people
                      1. Golovan Jack
                        Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 21: 20
                        +4
                        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                        let's consider each other smart people

                        Yes, I would be glad ... But I tell you about Thomas, and you tell me about Yerema request
                        Some of us for sure, that ... something is not catching up laughing
        4. Gardamir
          Gardamir 4 January 2018 15: 42
          +5
          What does the guarantor have to do with it?
          Well said! Did he take the Crimea himself? Did he fight in Syria? Not responsible for anything in the country!
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    3. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 4 January 2018 14: 24
      +4
      Here it is such a bourgeoisie!
    4. Dezinto
      Dezinto 4 January 2018 14: 31
      +8
      Reduce risks. It is very fortunate to lose the millions that I have stolen ..... that's insured. request
    5. alexmach
      alexmach 4 January 2018 14: 42
      +3
      And actually, who will be worse from this? The enterprises of the defense industry are their main customers, respectively, the one on whom the bank earned money. Well, they will stop taking loans from Alpha, so what? To whom will they issue them then in Russia will be? Is there another borrower secured by state order and financing in Russia?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 January 2018 15: 41
        0
        Alfa will have to see, to increase lending, non-defense industry and others - go.
    6. Svarog
      Svarog 4 January 2018 15: 16
      +7
      Quote: Pereira
      That's the price for our bankers.
      And are they ours?

      Well, there is no Sberbank in Crimea either, of course, all liberal bankers are 0 American and Putin is the same. Vote for Grudinin
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 36
        +5
        Quote: Svarog
        Vote for Grudinin

        Grudinin come - order navede wassat
        With antennae and the smell of strawberries, yeah ...
        Excuse - inspired request
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          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 16: 06
            +5
            Quote: Pancir026
            How are your Friedman, Usman? Chestyagny?

            And someone here can't read ... and asks stupid questions laughing
            Quote: Golovan Jack
            The bank is squabble, the owners own ...

            This is about Alpha, if it’s
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 4 January 2018 15: 39
          10
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Svarog
          Vote for Grudinin

          Grudinin come - order navede wassat
          With antennae and the smell of strawberries, yeah ...
          Excuse - inspired request

          Yes, but Putin-Brezhnev has already put things in order, I see, more and more order in the country. All the slave cannot part with a galley, everything is about the Rothenbergs, but he thinks about the Secrets, while the simple people die out.
          1. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 16: 08
            +6
            Quote: Svarog
            simple people die out

            Whoa...
            I, too, are people. And quite simple.
            Neither I, nor my parents and other relatives, nor my friends and acquaintances, nor housemates - no one somehow ... does not die out, you know.
            You, too, do not really die out too much - graze here on the Internet wink
            Are you not a people? Or are you not simple? Or are you lying now slightly?
            Choose
            laughing
            Quote: Svarog
            Putin-Brezhnev

            good laughing good
            Thanks, really amused!
        3. 210ox
          210ox 4 January 2018 16: 04
          +8
          And what do you dislike about Grudinin? He is the only adequate candidate. If to compare, then why not the Horse of heaven booby?
          Quote: Golovan Jack
          Quote: Svarog
          Vote for Grudinin

          Grudinin come - order navede wassat
          With antennae and the smell of strawberries, yeah ...
          Excuse - inspired request
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 4 January 2018 16: 17
            +5
            Quote: 210ox
            And what do you dislike about Grudinin?

            He does not like Grudinin, because, United Russia.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 18: 38
              +5
              Quote: Svarog
              Quote: 210ox
              And what do you dislike about Grudinin?

              He does not like Grudinin, because, United Russia.

              Don't call you names tongue
              This is Grudinin your kokhan - United Russia ... was.
              But I have never been in any party, am not and are not going to be a member.
              Somehow request
          2. Golovan Jack
            Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 16: 20
            +4
            Quote: 210ox
            What do you dislike about Grudinin? He is the only adequate candidate

            Quote: Explanatory Dictionary Ozhegova
            Adequate -then, -tna (book). Quite appropriate, matching

            Do not quite understand.
            What does Mr. Grudinin “correspond to,” and with what does he “coincide”.
            The question, in principle, is rhetorical wink
    7. pvv113
      pvv113 4 January 2018 15: 16
      +3
      Exactly - are we?
      I climbed on Wikipedia and found that there weren’t so many of ours
      As of January 2017, the majority shareholder is AB Holding JSC. The parent company is ABH Financial Ltd., registered in Cyprus.
      More than 75% of the bank's shares are owned by Alfa Group

      Founders of AB Holding JSC (1)
      Foreign legal entities (1)
      COMPANY "ABH FINANCIAL LIMITED" ("ABC FINANCE LIMITED")
      VIRGIN ISLANDS, BRITISH
      Share: 29 p. 774%

      In November 2005, Alfa Group’s ownership structure was first disclosed: the controlling consortium ABH Financial Limited, in turn, is owned by ABH Holding, registered in the British Virgin Islands

      request
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 January 2018 15: 44
        +1
        And what, the head office and a controlling stake are in Russia.
        1. pvv113
          pvv113 4 January 2018 15: 52
          +6
          If a dove lives in a stable, does not mean that he is a horse wink
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2018 16: 30
            +1
            Doves - only crazy people will consider a horse. And our “dove” is not a visiting one.
            1. pvv113
              pvv113 4 January 2018 16: 42
              0
              I won’t argue, maybe you're right
    8. 210ox
      210ox 4 January 2018 15: 29
      +6
      By the way. Kraiinvestbank, Krasnodar works in the Crimea and under sanctions. Aw! Sber, Alpha! Does the ego not allow you?
      Quote: Pereira
      That's the price for our bankers.
      And are they ours?
      1. Okolotochny
        Okolotochny 4 January 2018 22: 39
        +5
        For Krayinvest - office UNEXPECTED. Scandals and rumors. The bank was established, like the administration of the Krasnodar Territory. Why would he not work? Rotenberg Rossiya Bank also seems to be working.
    9. Herculesic
      Herculesic 4 January 2018 15: 34
      +1
      The Sixth Column launched an active attack on the economy and security of Russia!
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 January 2018 15: 45
        +1
        Who is this and how?
    10. albert
      albert 4 January 2018 17: 20
      +1
      Ha! I didn’t expect anything else. I wonder what will start among our thief-bankers, when the Americans will start to withdraw their funds in the West before the elections? Putin, his liberalism policy will come out sideways!
    11. shvn
      shvn 4 January 2018 17: 24
      0
      Do you know his last name? So that...
    12. Lavrenti Pavlovich
      Lavrenti Pavlovich 4 January 2018 17: 58
      +2
      The question is: do Russia need such banks? How much can you endure the whims of snickering bankers, for refusing to lend to the defense industry, nationalize the bank, and the owner in Siberia and in shackles. Sberbank, too, has long been conducting anti-Russian activities, under the pretext of earning currency, lending at low interest rates to other, far from friendly countries, and it never opened in Crimea. In the near future, the sale of Sberbank is being prepared, and to whom it will actually belong and for whom it will work is unknown. The management of Sberbank was entrusted to the enemy of the Russian (Russian) people - Gref, this one will sell everything. In fact, Russia needs a maximum of a dozen banks, but controlled by the state, not the Central Bank. The Central Bank has long discredited itself by working for the US Federal Reserve. When banks will belong to the state, then Western sanctions will be directed specifically against Russia, and this can be regarded as an act of aggression with all the ensuing consequences (can be regarded as a declaration of war). Therefore, the West will manage to introduce such sanctions. And the leakage of money abroad is easier to control in a dozen banks than in thousands.
  2. NKT
    NKT 4 January 2018 14: 14
    +2
    The cunning Friedman, unites his DEA with Wintershall, now his bank refuses to serve our defense industry enterprises.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 15: 46
      0
      - What a loss for the enterprises of our defense industry.
      1. NKT
        NKT 4 January 2018 15: 55
        +1
        This is not a loss, but just a call. As they say, who is who.
  3. Masya masya
    Masya masya 4 January 2018 14: 14
    10
    Sysuev explained that the bank is not going to immediately break off relations with the defense industry, but seeks to reduce risks
    so to speak, the tail will be cut in parts ... doesn’t it hurt?
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 4 January 2018 14: 34
      +7
      Good day to you love

      so to speak, tail will be cut in parts


      Well yes it seems so it looks ......

      How to press - quickly money in a portfolio and in Bali ....))



      "What happened"? - "And then it happened!"

      "For free and bleach curd"
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 4 January 2018 14: 44
        11
        Quote: DEZINTO
        "For free and bleach curd"

        and vinegar is sweet laughing
        1. Dezinto
          Dezinto 4 January 2018 14: 48
          +1
          How do I like your avatar .....) Laughing cat with all its fluffiness, this is about my mood ..)
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          2. Dezinto
            Dezinto 4 January 2018 14: 57
            +1
            "What is the smartest? Smart smart train train" Ah I can’t laugh .....
  4. Piramidon
    Piramidon 4 January 2018 14: 15
    +8
    Alfa’s daughters feel quite comfortable in / in Ukraine, financing AFU.
  5. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 4 January 2018 14: 25
    +7
    How so?!! After all, we are getting stronger from them !!!! belay
  6. White wolf
    White wolf 4 January 2018 14: 32
    +5
    It’s time to drive enemies from Russia for a long time. They are making money at the expense of the Russians, and they are also trying to spoil the country at the top.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 15: 48
      0
      By the way, they are still past the military-industrial complex, many of whom lend.
  7. flicker
    flicker 4 January 2018 14: 33
    +5
    It will be worse for him ... The defense industry complex is the most profitable enterprise in Russia winked
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 14: 46
      +5
      Quote: flicker
      He will be worse

      yes they will spit worse or not!
      and if tomorrow the war is REAL ?!
      1. flicker
        flicker 4 January 2018 15: 15
        +5
        ... "and if tomorrow the war, REAL? !!" , then no Alfa-Bank will help - only NWF !!!
        And if the war is still not tomorrow, then other banks will find.
        Alfa Bank made its choice - it killed itself, in the west nobody needs it together with Friedman and Aven - the West needed them while they financed the defense industry, i.e. had the opportunity to influence these enterprises. Now they are political and financial bankrupt - their fate, this is the fate of Berezovsky or Gusinsky. They are for the west ZERO.
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 15: 29
          +9
          Quote: flicker
          Alfa Bank made its choice - it killed itself, in the west nobody needs it together with Friedman and Aven - the West needed them while they financed the defense industry, i.e. had the opportunity to influence these enterprises. Now they are political and financial bankrupt - their fate, this is the fate of Berezovsky or Gusinsky. They are for the west ZERO

          Well, it’s not so simple and linear ... but Alpha is still more lost from this statement than the state of the Russian Federation.
          Plus yes
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 15: 52
          +4
          Quote: flicker
          "and if tomorrow is war, REAL? !!" , then no Alfa-Bank will help - only NWF !!!

          Well, yes, recall how in the 90s the military turned off the light?
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 4 January 2018 15: 24
        +2
        And if tomorrow is war, then the entire power elite, along with children and families, is wound up from Russia. Maybe it's for the best!
  8. Dave36
    Dave36 4 January 2018 14: 37
    +3
    And what is surprising, there is no Sberbank in the Crimea, and what)?
  9. anjey
    anjey 4 January 2018 14: 43
    +9
    Such a treacherous financial component, focused only on its own profits and, in particular, becoming an instrument of US pressure policy in Russia, should be strictly tackled, right up to the complete deprivation of the license and criminal prosecution of the administration - for targeted hostile actions that undermine the defense and act to the detriment of the state of Russia. ..press with all the consequences - in a war as in a war ...
  10. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2018 14: 45
    15
    Ms. Nabiullina, it's high time to move to the bunks
    it seems that she is not the head of the Russian Central Bank, but a branch of the American
    then we pay from the state budget for a visa and a master instead of launching our payment system, we collapse the ruble, now our banks can declare that they will not service the defense industry, refuse to work in the Crimea and at the same time finance the parcel, and then quit there is property
    what tomorrow?
    refusal to pay pensions and salaries to the military? !!!!
    1. No pasaran
      No pasaran 4 January 2018 14: 50
      +6
      Not a feeling, but firm confidence. wink
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 57
        +1
        Is it only Mrs. Nabiullina? The government will have to and will refuse to pay the military. Everything has its time!
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  11. pepel
    pepel 4 January 2018 14: 49
    +2
    It is time for the Central Bank to take a closer look at the legality of Alfa-Bank having a banking license. The banker will always find SINS for which NEED TO SELECT a license. negative angry
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 4 January 2018 15: 19
      +2
      The raven will not peck out the crow's eye! The people know what they are saying.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 15: 51
      +1
      This is a private bank - the owner has every right to refuse to service and our military-industrial complex will not lose anything from this, since there is a defense order and subsidies for the modernization of production from the budget.
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 21
        0
        And why were UVZ going to bankrupt upon request from Alpha? Maybe it’s not so feldepers with financing for defense orders?
        1. Golovan Jack
          Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 18: 26
          +4
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          And why were UVZ going to bankrupt upon request from Alpha?

          Your training manual is out of date, urgently change.
          It all ended another six months ago, EMNIP.
          Alpha ... washed her face for short yes
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 28
            0
            And if even shorter, no matter how regrettable, Alpha washed our worthless power. wink I then, unlike you, I write manuals myself, and not your liberals in the government.
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 18: 29
              +4
              Quote: andrej-shironov
              And if it’s even shorter, regrettably Alpha washed the power our worthless

              From now on, you are welcome...
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 32
                0
                And what is italics highlighted? To trolls I have the ability and attitude of a troll! On the Internet and Google to help you! Seek and fool. wink
                1. Golovan Jack
                  Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 18: 37
                  +4
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  On the Internet and Google to help you! Seek and fool

                  Hamim ... we are not responsible for our words ..
                  Well, let’s write it down yes
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  And then in italics

                  Italics are different, you see wink

                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  Skills and attitude to trolls ...

                  The most immediate, I would say.
                  Trololo ordinary, ideological-free ...
                  But - on the training manual laughing
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 39
                    0
                    Ideally, yes! Not for the loot how you protect the power! And read about italics in Pedivikia wink
                    1. Golovan Jack
                      Golovan Jack 5 January 2018 18: 43
                      +4
                      Quote: andrej-shironov
                      And read about italics in Pedivikia

                      So read ... at least you will know something useful:
                      It - italics ... And italics, and italics, and italics. He is an "Italian".
                      And this is bold (Aka FAT).
                      А andrej-shironov - ideological trololo, with a training manual, but without knowledge ...
                      Pichalka crying
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 44
                        0
                        Well cry sick ... laughing
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  13. kefan
    kefan 4 January 2018 14: 59
    +4
    Well, it is clear what else could be expected from the traitors - bankers, as they say, you can sell your shirt closer to your body, you can sell your native for money and mother, not to mention the homeland.
  14. Simon
    Simon 4 January 2018 15: 03
    +5
    Well! If this bank, being on the territory of Russia, does not want to work with defense enterprises, it is necessary to completely stop all work with them and start checking them with financing of the fifth columns and transferring money to offshore. Anyway, when checking, you can find a lot of all the negative, against themselves. In vain they started this business. And defense enterprises, at the moment, are more promising and cost-effective. How would you later regret your deedfool
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 4 January 2018 15: 18
      +2
      Dear Simon! Do you yourself believe that?
  15. Strashila
    Strashila 4 January 2018 15: 03
    10
    in fact ... nothing of what was not expected ... Americans have long declared that the Russian oligarchs are only considered Russian, but will do what they are told in the West ... the loot lies in their banks and they dictate the terms.
  16. Simon
    Simon 4 January 2018 15: 10
    +3
    Quote: Piramidon
    Alfa’s daughters feel quite comfortable in / in Ukraine, financing AFU.

    So let them settle in the apartment to their daughter! There is nothing for this bank to do, here in Russia, we will work with other banks tongue
  17. Dormidont
    Dormidont 4 January 2018 15: 12
    +6
    For it is said in Scripture that usury is as mortal a sin as sodomy
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 4 January 2018 16: 54
      +1
      Quote: Dormidont
      usury is as deadly a sin as sodomy

      Both flourish in the current realities. The latter has now even become a test of democracy, and a ticket to the show business.
  18. Simon
    Simon 4 January 2018 15: 13
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Reduce risks. It is very fortunate to lose the millions that I have stolen ..... that's insured. request

    If at all you didn’t lose everything later!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 16: 04
      +4
      I would also refuse to lend to the military-industrial complex in Friedman’s place, it’s already a lot of debts there and then the state is forced to cover from its own pocket, misuse of credit funds at these enterprises last year covered 800 billion of enterprises ’debts to everyone: wages, loans, payment for the supply of water, electricity, etc. The military-industrial complex must be dealt with, with a strict audit, who and what is spending money.
  19. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 4 January 2018 15: 17
    +3
    For the loot they will sell their homeland! And you all here about maydaunov and Ukraine verb! All the lice have long been in power. Someone rubbed me here that our businessmen are working exclusively in the interests of the motherland. Who could it be? wink
  20. prior
    prior 4 January 2018 15: 18
    +3
    ALFA BANK NATIONALIZE!
    Friedman on felling.
    1. 23424636
      23424636 4 January 2018 15: 32
      +1
      you do not have time to carry out nationalization as crowds of Jews will demand from the country to cover their fictitious lost contributions, alpha is a chimera, a big divorce
      1. mikh-korsakov
        mikh-korsakov 4 January 2018 16: 26
        +1
        They will demand, but who will give them?
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 5 January 2018 18: 22
          0
          Power on a silver platter on a silver platter!
  21. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 January 2018 15: 18
    +3
    Alfa-Bank refused to serve the defense enterprises because of sanctions

    +++, well done, keep it up and not back down! (the country must know its heroes repeat )
    a specialized bank will appear in Russia to service the military-industrial complex.

    Why so hard? Lose licenses in 5 seconds and all banks will offer their military-industrial complex services at 10, 8, 5, 3, 2% .....
  22. Zomanus
    Zomanus 4 January 2018 15: 19
    +5
    That is great. And then I remember this bank UVZ tried to bankrupt.
    And generally a pretty bank, one of those
    through which often scams conduct.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 16: 08
      0
      What are scams? - Details. "And then I remember this bank UVZ tried to bankrupt." Of course - as a debtor, the grandmother must be returned.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 4 January 2018 16: 57
        0
        Quote: Vadim237
        Of course - as a debtor, the grandmother must be returned.

        Most of those present on the site have debts, but this is not a reason to throw them out of the apartment. request
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 January 2018 19: 33
          0
          How good it is to live without debt.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 4 January 2018 20: 44
            +1
            Quote: Vadim237
            How good it is to live without debt.

            Yeah. But closely ... There’s nowhere to squeeze a wife, you know. laughing I’m thinking about a mortgage .... for a long time shorter. recourse And I am ready to pay more interest on using a loan than our state receives from deposits in the US Treasury. The benefits are obvious, but someone at the top does not know. Or does not want to know. request
            1. Golovan Jack
              Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 20: 55
              +5
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And I am ready to pay more interest on using a loan than our state receives from deposits in the US Treasury. The benefits are there ...

              ... with only one difference: Treasure at any time and immediately can be turned into green noise ... that is, pah, cash, of course. But it’s difficult to convert your esteemed mortgage debt into green cash.
              That is, as a "safety cushion", treasurers are suitable, but mortgage (and other) loans are not.
              Oh how belay
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  23. Simon
    Simon 4 January 2018 15: 20
    +4
    Quote: Hoc vince
    The article should have been called: "Alfa Bank has joined the anti-Russian sanctions."

    So, Alfa-Bank also needs to announce counter-sanctions! negative
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 16: 11
      0
      And along with these sanctions, all those to whom this bank gives loans every year, as well as the accounts of those who keep savings and receive salaries, will be covered.
  24. groks
    groks 4 January 2018 15: 24
    +3
    Well, thank God! Are there few banks? We have 8 units under state defense orders. And some of them I would not trust the ruble. But we are working somehow.
    Another thing is that this is a sign that they put Putin on the page. Together with the whole party and government laid. Together with the statement of the German Foreign Ministry and the attack on the base in Syria - a worthless picture.
  25. 23424636
    23424636 4 January 2018 15: 29
    +3
    it is no secret that banks are very attracted by bureaucrats for depositary storage of working capital of enterprises with kickbacks and many go to this second salary. Alpha is not the last on this list. But given the very dark component of his financial accumulation and his anti-Russian position on key issues of the foreign policy of the Lviv Jew Friedman and his constant stay in London with Russophobia, it’s worth it to be very thoughtless to serve in his office.
  26. Penzyac
    Penzyac 4 January 2018 15: 34
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Reduce risks. It is very fortunate to lose the millions that I have stolen ..... that's insured. request

    It’s a pity that exchanges do not work during the holidays, it’s interesting how much the shares of Alpha fell (and I think they fell and will continue to fall), did the risk justify itself ...?
    It would be good if I didn’t justify myself either in the short or the long, and the stronger, the better, so that the science of others ...
  27. Fitter65
    Fitter65 4 January 2018 15: 35
    +1
    Well, it’ll stop and it’s good, why is there such a bank in Russia then? In October 1917, too, they didn’t immediately cover all the unnecessary banks, but by 1939 nobody had any questions. How can I go to the MIR card now or let the Fed go through VISA sponsor. Personally, I switched ...
  28. APASUS
    APASUS 4 January 2018 15: 38
    +2
    1 Here's a question about protecting investments in the military-industrial complex under state orders.
    2 The question of forming a banking community is not something that can wash any money, but what works in the interests of the country
    3 Once again about who owns the financial system as a whole, we still serve US interests
  29. zyzx
    zyzx 4 January 2018 15: 38
    +2
    But there an ardent activist is working as an ardent activist visiting the moon by the Americans, cosmonft leons.
  30. flicker
    flicker 4 January 2018 15: 40
    +5
    There is no guarantee that this bank will not declare bankruptcy before the presidential election.
    I think it makes sense for bank customers to think about their accounts. However late it would be.
    It really hurts obviously he drowns west.
  31. Yarik76
    Yarik76 4 January 2018 15: 46
    +4
    I’ll close my card - minus the client! I think there will be many!
    1. Bastinda
      Bastinda 4 January 2018 19: 37
      +1
      And the bank will immediately fall?
      Do you think this is not specifically tailored to the New Year, and our 10 day vacation?
  32. HEATHER
    HEATHER 4 January 2018 15: 47
    +3
    Russian defense enterprises constituted the bulk of the bank’s loan portfolio. Yes, disperse, see this office.
  33. Altona
    Altona 4 January 2018 15: 54
    +2
    The supranational bourgeoisie refused to serve the national. Why are you so worried for the first time chtoli? This is a natural phenomenon and quite a classic clinch described in Marxism.
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  35. rumatam
    rumatam 4 January 2018 15: 59
    +1
    expropriating due to pro-American actions, or again for the money of the elite is scary.
  36. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 January 2018 16: 02
    +3
    Wonderful, a country in which the head of state is not responsible for anything! It is like a body without a brain!
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 16: 22
      +7
      Quote: Gardamir
      a country in which the head of state is not responsible for anything

      Where is this?
      Quote: Gardamir
      It like a body without a brain

      Or like a head. Gardamir laughing
  37. bsk_una
    bsk_una 4 January 2018 16: 11
    +1
    And to hell with such banks, these are only traitors who work for the Anglo-Saxons, and not for Russia. Putin dismissed all anti-Russian salesmen. Is this the end of Russia? Isn't it time for the Armed Forces to liquidate all Western banks and confiscate their contents !?
  38. Glory1974
    Glory1974 4 January 2018 16: 23
    +1
    Revealed another weak link. It's good that this happened now, and not during the "hot" collision. There is time to prepare.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 16: 36
      +3
      During a hot collision - it will be all the same.
  39. seacap
    seacap 4 January 2018 16: 34
    +5
    Well, wait and see out, here we all have a patriotic grin on our locomotives of perestroika and the economy, more and more. For a long time I tried to find out and somehow justify myself, why do our country and people need these oligarchs with their banks? they all need these ghouls if they don’t give grants for the development of fundamental and applied science, they don’t build, they don’t maintain and develop a single educational institution, they don’t develop and introduce new technologies, they don’t pay and they don’t restore the environment, they don’t allocate a penny they don’t especially care about the development of culture and art, not even providing their workers with free housing and spa treatment, but only immensely, having lost all sorts of moral and universal norms, the latter from the country, not so much thinking about the future of their homeland and of all its people. All forces earn their preferences overseas, pouring enormous funds into our hostile power, allowing our partners to get out of the deepest crisis, get along with your debt and have a huge military budget, carry out economic reforms, at the same time, driving your homeland, feeding country into stagnation and raw material colonial economic dependence, i.e. slowly but steadily destroying it. So why do we need them?
  40. Altona
    Altona 4 January 2018 16: 41
    +4
    Quote: Gardamir
    Wonderful, a country in which the head of state is not responsible for anything! It is like a body without a brain!

    ---------------------------
    But how can the head of the bourgeois state respond? Everything is natural here, banks are trying to maximize profits and reduce risks. Moreover, "reduce risks" in this case, the key phrase. The head of state can order financing of the state order directly, and in general, it would be necessary to do so, rather than twist state money in financial pads and not take loans from them. Immediately we discover another essence, not noticed by our society, (or through the letter H) of “our” banks. Banks are destined only to withdraw profits abroad. That is, to tear off the Russian and to give to the West the tattered. Well, the Guarantor will just shrug his arms "everything is stolen by law, which means it is a business."
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 January 2018 17: 39
      +3
      But how can the head of the bourgeois state respond?
      I am not a supporter of capitalism, but based on the reality in which we are. There are two options. The head, which rows only for himself and for his own. And a chapter who understands that he himself will be richer if the country is richer. I am for the second option.
  41. seacap
    seacap 4 January 2018 16: 41
    +2
    Quote: just EXPL
    I’m thinking, maybe the central bank may stop serving the alpha bank due to sanctions?

    The Central Bank is an IMF branch, a graduate of the Yale School, their most successful manager, in their opinion, if they praise, then she does everything right according to their plan. Calling the Central Bank is the same as calling Soros and Rockefeller and them similar, the effect will be the same, it’s not our organization and doesn’t obey us, so it doesn’t work for the country, thanks to the “genius reformers” of the 90s who put the country to plunder and sell.
  42. seacap
    seacap 4 January 2018 16: 44
    +4
    Quote: Gardamir
    Wonderful, a country in which the head of state is not responsible for anything! It is like a body without a brain!

    And who in our country was responsible for the reforms that destroyed entire industries, science and education, and the country as a whole? They erect monuments to them and open centers, and who is alive, still sleeps softly and devours sweetly.
  43. Overlock
    Overlock 4 January 2018 17: 17
    +1
    Alfa Bank belongs to a citizen of Ukraine, a native of Lviv
  44. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 4 January 2018 17: 17
    +1
    Quote: Svarog
    According to some estimates, over 10 trillion dollars have been withdrawn from Russia over 10 years, can you imagine what this amount is?

    The numbers, of course, are beautiful. It turns out 1 trillion. in year? Perhaps this is the whole amount for 10 years.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 4 January 2018 19: 34
      0
      More likely 10 trillion rubles.
  45. samarin1969
    samarin1969 4 January 2018 17: 31
    0
    At least more or less publicly stated: who is in charge in our country ..... Closer to February, the "backstage government" will personally materialize. It will be sad to see how the first persons of the country, personally Peskov and resourceful guys from the state. channels will explain "politics in the new realities."
    1. Golovan Jack
      Golovan Jack 4 January 2018 17: 41
      +4
      Quote: samarin1969
      it will be sad to watch how the first persons of the country, personally Peskov and resourceful guys from the state. channels will explain "politics in the new realities"

      Bet you won’t? For lack of what needs to be explained?
      Quote: samarin1969
      more or less publicly stated: who is in charge in our country

      Mdya ... analysis ... well, just the deepest request
      1. samarin1969
        samarin1969 4 January 2018 18: 09
        0
        There is no analysis here ... still I read the code and the "charter of moderators" wink ... And will there be "hot time" for the main mustache of the Russian Federation, let's see.
  46. smershxnumx
    smershxnumx 4 January 2018 17: 36
    +1
    Quote: Pereira
    That's the price for our bankers.
    And are they ours?

    When did this Alpha become ours? Look where the capital is lost, everything will become clear ... They UVZ almost went bankrupt (who do not know - OAO NPP Uralvagonzavod - the one that modernizes the T-72, produces the T-90, the T-14 more ....
  47. bogart047
    bogart047 4 January 2018 17: 41
    0
    Friedman and others like them (continue a series of surnames) do not have a homeland, but only business interests.
  48. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 4 January 2018 17: 58
    0
    It's time to call Friedman to account. Close the bank, withdraw funds until it has stolen. And it’s time for the Martians to send them to their historical homeland .. am
  49. Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 4 January 2018 18: 02
    0
    Quote: seacap
    Well, wait and see out, here we all have a patriotic grin on our locomotives of perestroika and the economy, more and more. For a long time I tried to find out and somehow justify myself, why do our country and people need these oligarchs with their banks? they all need these ghouls if they don’t give grants for the development of fundamental and applied science, they don’t build, they don’t maintain and develop a single educational institution, they don’t develop and introduce new technologies, they don’t pay and they don’t restore the environment, they don’t allocate a penny they don’t especially care about the development of culture and art, not even providing their workers with free housing and spa treatment, but only immensely, having lost all sorts of moral and universal norms, the latter from the country, not so much thinking about the future of their homeland and of all its people. All forces earn their preferences overseas, pouring enormous funds into our hostile power, allowing our partners to get out of the deepest crisis, get along with your debt and have a huge military budget, carry out economic reforms, at the same time, driving your homeland, feeding country into stagnation and raw material colonial economic dependence, i.e. slowly but steadily destroying it. So why do we need them?

    Look, gold words. They DO NOT NEED ANYONE. They were created by smart uncles to withdraw capital abroad. Conclusion: if we want to survive, we need to eliminate them. And the situation on the Central Bank should be changed, it’s enough for him to be a branch of the Fed ..
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