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In Syria, the Russian Mi-24 crashed

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The Russian Mi-24 helicopter crashed on December 31 due to a technical malfunction while performing a flight to Hama airfield in Syria. This was reported today by the Ministry of Defense of Russia.


In Syria, the Russian Mi-24 crashed


When making a hard landing in 15 km from the destination aerodrome, both pilots died,
leads the message TASS.

According to the ministry, “the helicopter flight engineer was injured and was promptly evacuated by the search and rescue team at Hmeymim airfield, where he was provided with the necessary medical assistance.”

The cause of the tragedy was named technical failure of the machine.

There was no fire impact on the Mi-24,
added to the press service.

It was previously known at least about three incidents with Russian military helicopters in Syria.

1 August 2016, in the province of Idlib, as a result of shelling from the ground, the military transport helicopter Mi-8 returning to Hamim air base. In April, the Russian helicopter Mi-2016H “Night Hunter” crashed near the city of Homs in 28. In November, the X-NUMX of the year in Syria in the course of a rescue operation to search for the pilots of the Turkish Air Force shot down the Su-2015 was shot down from the ground by a Mi-24 helicopter.
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  1. Tusk
    Tusk 3 January 2018 13: 44
    26
    Such losses are the most offensive! Let the earth rest in peace ..
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    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 13: 56
      11
      pilots ... no words ... blaming someone, meaning? "techies" in this are the very last who are NOT interested. Defects ... the chain will be unwound, but there are a lot of helicopter crashes.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 14: 12
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        "techies" in this are the very latest who are NOT interested. -Vividly shown.

      2. MOSKVITYANIN
        MOSKVITYANIN 3 January 2018 14: 18
        +2
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        pilots ... no words ... blaming someone, meaning? "techies" in this are the very last who are NOT interested. Defects ... the chain will be unwound, but there are a lot of helicopter crashes.

        The wear and tear equipment works, the replacement of helicopters is not carried out, the conclusion to the scheduled repair of aircraft is the same ... is unlikely to answer for this, the commander of the VVB ....
        1. figwam
          figwam 3 January 2018 14: 35
          +2
          At least three incidents involving Russian military helicopters in Syria were previously known.

          More Mi-35 near Homs shot down, the crew died.
          1. sds87
            sds87 4 January 2018 00: 53
            +2
            Quote: figvam
            More Mi-35 near Homs shot down, the crew died.

            It went off: “On the last day of 2017, militants in Syria fired mortars at a Russian air base in Khmeimim, Moscow lost four Su-24 bombers, two Su-35S fighters, an An-72 transport aircraft, Kommersant writes with reference to two military diplomatic sources. " Gone on vacation ...
            1. MOSKVITYANIN
              MOSKVITYANIN 4 January 2018 01: 55
              +1
              Quote: sds87
              Quote: figvam
              More Mi-35 near Homs shot down, the crew died.

              Let's go: "On the last day of 2017, militants in Syria fired mortars at a Russian air base in Khmeimim, Moscow lost four Su-24 bombers, two Su-35С fighters, An-72 transport aircraft, Kommersant reports citing two military-diplomatic sources " Gone on vacation ...

              In Afghanistan, they lost more, including at the airfields ....
              1. sub307
                sub307 4 January 2018 08: 07
                +1
                Well ... they waited, Khmeimim received a "response" from the ISIS. You can "pour verbal crap" on our partners for a long time, as Putin calls them partners. Well, they say, they are not good ISIS fostering and arming .... However, it is understandable from the beginning, it seems that they are not partners in any way, but quite the contrary. Relaxed, perhaps ...? Well, of course - victorious New Year’s broadcasts, Putin with congratulations and awards .... And here the "shepherds" hastily trained, without any "high-precision stray", take and "drag" ordinary mortars to the firing distance and "hammer" at our air base as they want. Where is the "security zone" ...? Did you rely on the Syrian warriors? Well, well ... Interesting: the performers "caught up" though? Something is not heard "victorious reports.
                1. MOSKVITYANIN
                  MOSKVITYANIN 4 January 2018 14: 14
                  +1
                  sub307 You can "pour verbal crap" on our partners for a long time, as Putin calls them partners.

                  Well, Putin is the president of the Russian Federation, and not the colonel from the forum, he can’t use all things on the website to call and insult everyone (I think there are more powerful bans in politics), he is responsible for one and a half hundred million citizens of the Russian Federation .. .
                  However, you can always solve the problem with the security zone around our VVB in the SAR along with your combat couch, however, the next military rank of Major General does not promise you, gee ....
        2. Alex Justice
          Alex Justice 4 January 2018 18: 46
          0
          The technique has nothing to do with it. They hooked on the wires.
      3. misti1973
        misti1973 6 January 2018 06: 17
        0
        And what kind of regulation is there?
    3. Tatyana
      Tatyana 3 January 2018 13: 59
      20
      Tusk
      Such losses are the most offensive!

      I join the general expression of sympathy for the relatives and friends of the dead pilots, as well as their friends and comrades. I wish the wounded a speedy recovery.

    4. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 4 January 2018 04: 04
      +1
      The earth rest in peace and the kingdom of heaven for the dead pilots, but events will develop further: 4 Su-24, 2 Su-35S and 1 An-72 were destroyed by rocket fire Khmeimim, there are no dead, but there are wounded. These are the facts, according to the media, conclusions should follow
      1. Dalailama
        Dalailama 4 January 2018 04: 16
        +2
        According to which media? The latest news about an attempt to shell 6 days ago and there is nothing like that.
        1. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b 4 January 2018 05: 53
          0
          The first is in Yandex news, and now in the "Military Materials". As a result of mortar fire !!! And what is the firing range of the minamet. On donkey dragged, collected ...
          1. Dalailama
            Dalailama 4 January 2018 10: 13
            +1
            The first thing in Yandex is now: "The Ministry of Defense has denied reports of the destruction of seven aircraft in Syria‍."
          2. misti1973
            misti1973 6 January 2018 06: 19
            0
            Why on the ass? IG and others don’t ride on donkeys! They have cars
  2. Andrey K
    Andrey K 3 January 2018 13: 44
    18
    ... In Syria, the Russian Mi-24 crashed ...

    Earth rest in peace for the guys ...

    PS Colleagues, let’s do it without any “pluses,” to anything ...
    1. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 3 January 2018 14: 24
      18
      Quote: Andrey K

      Earth rest in peace ....

      This is yes.
      1. Young_Communist
        Young_Communist 3 January 2018 15: 39
        +1
        Why middle name with a small letter?
      2. Pete mitchell
        Pete mitchell 3 January 2018 17: 53
        +8
        Land they rest in peace. Pilots do not die, they fly away and do not return ...
        Are they Koryanovsky? Who knows
  3. Krasnodar
    Krasnodar 3 January 2018 13: 45
    +6
    Condolences to the families of the dead, speedy recovery to the wounded
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 14: 15
      +4
      Quote: Krasnodar
      Condolences to the families of the dead, speedy recovery to the wounded

      after the holidays, especially acutely ... someone has a hangover, and someone went "to Heaven" ... Pilots-Flight ... soldierthey just didn't come back ... sad
  4. HEATHER
    HEATHER 3 January 2018 13: 49
    15
    ............................ damn what. How can this be? For 20 years, we have never been a tragedy. And here, the car went to the base! Something is wrong here. I wanted to see Komeska (show off). Our people just don’t fall. Machines are very reliable. Even the Mi-8t! It's a great car. But something that Syria doesn't understand. Something we don’t agree on.
    1. Going
      Going 3 January 2018 13: 57
      +8
      They say it hooked the wires, is it that he was walking on his belly? Relatives and relatives condolences.
      1. HEATHER
        HEATHER 3 January 2018 14: 20
        11
        They say hooked wires Well, the commander can’t hook the wires. The pilots know and know how. Someone threw such nonsense, to knock on the face. They don’t understand. And they don’t know. It’s not Swan’s theme. When it’s really, they hooked a wire on the left counter. More than one Swan died there, but also my crew. I served 20 years with these guys. They were still in Syria even then.
        1. Going
          Going 3 January 2018 14: 23
          +4
          The following is an excerpt from the professor:

          There is other information:
          As reported on Wednesday, January 3, in the CIT Telegram channel, the Mi-24 helicopter escorted a convoy near the village of az-Zara, Hama province. The aircraft touched the wires and crashed. As a result, Major Artem Kulish and the second crew member Matveyev were killed (full name is established).

          More details: https://www.newsru.com/world/03jan2018/gibel.html
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 31
        +3
        Quote: Going
        They say it hooked the wires, is it that he was walking on his belly? Relatives and relatives condolences.

        we didn’t go, it’s not for us to judge. Sand - it is everywhere there, hence many failures. By the way, and the tactics of Sushki-from a height to work-smart.
    2. q75agent
      q75agent 3 January 2018 14: 01
      +3
      if the perfume video is not posted so far, then really a technical malfunction
  5. pvv113
    pvv113 3 January 2018 13: 59
    +7
    Condolences to the near and dear ones. Crew - perpetual flight
  6. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 3 January 2018 14: 01
    +1
    Quote: VERESK
    ............................ damn what. How can this be? For 20 years, we have never been a tragedy. And here, the car went to the base! Something is wrong here. I wanted to see Komeska (show off). Our people just don’t fall. Machines are very reliable. Even the Mi-8t! It's a great car. But something that Syria doesn't understand. Something we don’t agree on.

    During the service they brought information about the state of emergency in the troops. So from all the emergencies happened during the holidays. Especially the New Year, and May 9! I would not want this tradition to remain from the Soviet era!
    1. HEATHER
      HEATHER 3 January 2018 14: 04
      +6
      It’s not the fault of the holidays. Everything is bad in our country. It’s hard. Close. Why they crashed ... They also brought us. Not really.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 3 January 2018 15: 27
        +7
        Quote: VERESK
        Sucks everything in the country

        In the days of the USSR, too, everything was bad? There were no less disasters, they were simply hushed up.
        1. HEATHER
          HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 52
          +1
          The country didn’t know. We did.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 14: 09
      +3
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      . Especially the New Year, and May 9! I would not want this tradition to remain from the Soviet era!

      at our Base, I don’t remember. It was all unexpected, and not on holidays.
  7. Altona
    Altona 3 January 2018 14: 10
    +1
    The dead crew members - a bright memory. We assume that the loss of technology was a hidden, undetected defect.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 14: 18
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      hidden undetected defect.
      sounds Eugene, -bad ...
  8. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 3 January 2018 14: 11
    +1
    Guys, well, it's a shame ... Well, you can’t fly like that, put your lives in vain! Condolences ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 14: 20
      +1
      Quote: panzerfaust
      put your lives in vain!

      ??
      1. panzerfaust
        panzerfaust 3 January 2018 14: 37
        +1
        Here is a comrade from Israel said that the wires hit. The second board is already so lost. It's a shame and stupid.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 3 January 2018 15: 31
      +3
      Quote: panzerfaust
      Well, you can’t fly like that

      Have you seen or know exactly HOW they flew? What kind of people? Helicopter pinned to the sofa and already experts in helicopter driving.
  9. senima56
    senima56 3 January 2018 14: 12
    0
    Sorry for the guys. His kingdom is heaven. But why do we still have "stamps" ?! If an accident occurs and everyone died - "crew error", if the crew is alive (or someone from the crew) - "technical malfunction"! In the latter case, what? There is no one to dump!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 14: 23
      +5
      Quote: senima56
      If an accident occurs and everyone died - "crew error", if the crew is alive (or someone from the crew) - "technical malfunction"! In the latter case, what? There is no one to dump!

      dump me, easier? equipment ... I have once a year and "ten" do-it-yourself get-ups. who is to blame? and I am on earth.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 3 January 2018 14: 43
      +1
      Collision with an obstacle in the air. Power lines caught. Due to the high speed, they were badly broken. If they walked more slowly, they would get rid of injuries.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 01
        +1
        Quote: donavi49
        Collision with an obstacle in the air. Power lines caught.

        Pruffs (sorry, for my French).
    3. Cheldon
      Cheldon 3 January 2018 14: 51
      0
      60% is a human factor, 30% is a technical failure, 10% are weather conditions, approximately. Flight accidents (disasters) are mainly on takeoff and landing. The kingdom of heaven to the lost children.
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 03
        +1
        Quote: Cheldon
        60% is a human factor, 30% is a technical failure, 10% are weather conditions, approximately. Flight accidents (disasters) are mainly on takeoff and landing.

        EXTRA.
        Quote: Cheldon
        The kingdom of heaven to fallen children
        to this topic...
      2. Town Hall
        Town Hall 3 January 2018 15: 04
        +1
        Quote: Cheldon
        60% is a human factor, 30% is a technical failure, 10% are weather conditions, approximately. Flight accidents (disasters) are mainly on takeoff and landing. The kingdom of heaven to the lost children.




        Not everything is so simple. There are human errors because of gouging, but because of the imperfection of aircraft systems, because of poor ergonomics, because of an inferior training system, because of ordinary fatigue because they forced me to fly more than normal, because of stupid orders.


        In such cases, human error is only the result of deeper systemic failures.
  10. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 3 January 2018 14: 15
    +2
    What could happen if a crocodile suddenly "lands hard" like this? Sudden engine failure? Both at once? Fuel? In any case, the men feel terribly sorry. Rest in peace
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 3 January 2018 14: 41
      +1
      Power lines were caught, they were traveling at high speed, so the whole impulse to the ground.
  11. Professor
    Professor 3 January 2018 14: 16
    +2
    Russian Mi-24 helicopter crashed on December 31 due to technical malfunction when flying to Hama airport in Syria

    There is other information:
    As reported on Wednesday, on January 3, on the CIT Telegram channel, the Mi-24 helicopter escorted a convoy near the village of al-Zar, Hama province. Aircraft hit the wires and crashed. As a result, Major Artem Kulish and the second crew member Matveyev were killed (full name is established).

    More details: https://www.newsru.com/world/03jan2018/gibel.html
    1. HEATHER
      HEATHER 3 January 2018 14: 39
      +4
      It touched the wires ... To get ready for the training of our helicopter pilots. They came from where! Even in Magadan there are wires. And we can do something against the Americans? I didn’t hear that they were knocking down wires. Or were ours flashing on copper? All-bastard. Too simple and bad. We still need to grow from kindergarten.
      1. Cheldon
        Cheldon 3 January 2018 14: 54
        +6
        Who's stopping you, grow. Give a sweetie, or chupachups?
        1. HEATHER
          HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 00
          +3
          Guys from Israel can write what they want. Although there are wires and cobblestones along the way. Close the jaws-mouth, indecent.
          1. Cheldon
            Cheldon 3 January 2018 15: 10
            +3
            Quote: VERESK
            We still need to grow from kindergarten.
            Not us, you! Give candy to grow faster?
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 06
        +5
        Quote: VERESK
        adel wires ... To go nuts training of our helicopter pilots

        Are you a helicopter pilot? piloted in dusty conditions? When does the Column need to be saved ...? Sometimes it's better to chew than talk.
        1. HEATHER
          HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 35
          +4
          Yurich! I forgot? I'm a helicopter pilot. I’ve got the conditions that you drew on the drum. We prepared and we prepared others. You don’t tell me how to fly. You’ve got too many wise guys on the site, including the cheldon. Shut up. steel. You better watch yourself. And to you, Yurich-You and I stood well at one time. And you squinted. Be healthy. And do not cough! Good luck.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 44
            +1
            Quote: VERESK
            Yurich! Forgot? I'm a helicopter pilot. I have the conditions that you drew on the drum.

            I take off my cap ... you are a hero. I, when I pump it up, I can also prove that MI-24x link, Berlin would have taken it easily ... no offense, but you (friendship?) are clearly exaggerating, show off (in studios) is not that TAM. There is reality, and swirling currents, and a wind rose (proximity to the sea) ... how can you "scribe" (friendship ... stand ...) can you judge the time-position of the crew? there every five minutes, vectors change, and vortices? why bazaar? drinkswould be friend- "Ancient"-It would certainly be able to .... and so ... I-no "proof" ....
            1. HEATHER
              HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 47
              +1
              take off my cap ... you're a hero. While not a hero. Take off the scalp better. You are our gentle.
            2. HEATHER
              HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 55
              +1
              Stop taking it on your chest. Sober-talk.
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 59
                +2
                Quote: VERESK
                HERE Today, 15: 55 ↑
                Stop taking it on your chest. Sober-talk.

                oh how ... oh well, then there’s nothing to talk about.
                1. HEATHER
                  HEATHER 3 January 2018 16: 05
                  +1
                  Be healthy. And good luck. Happy New, Yurich!
      3. donavi49
        donavi49 3 January 2018 15: 11
        +4
        They have the same problem. They even implemented WSPS (a set of torches - Wire Strike Protection System) everywhere, though mostly for small and civil ones. This is how it looks


        On the other hand, there are other tactics for using helicopters. They do not trite the earth at the height of power lines. They are repelled by other tactics of fire impact, without entering the zone of intense counteraction. Actually, therefore, they do not need to fly belly on the ground. Also - they usually have better surveillance systems. Again, for Europeans / Americans, the norm is a multi-mode helmet with remote TPV / NVD matrices. All helicopters in Russia use the ancient ONV1 - which seems to be starting to be modernized by installing the 3 generation image intensifier tubes. Only there the cathode remains 18mm. That is the stone age. Today, the 24mm cathode is a hunting norm and their shaft is on aliexpress.
      4. Professor
        Professor 3 January 2018 19: 15
        +5
        Quote: VERESK
        It touched the wires ... To get ready for the training of our helicopter pilots. They came from where! Even in Magadan there are wires. And we can do something against the Americans? I didn’t hear that they were knocking down wires. Or were ours flashing on copper? All-bastard. Too simple and bad. We still need to grow from kindergarten.

        What does the preparation have to do with it? In your opinion, in Syria all power lines are marked with special signs for helicopters? This is not Israel for you, there is nothing like it in Syria.
        The bourgeoisie for such cases have special cutters installed.
  12. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 3 January 2018 14: 27
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    . Especially the New Year, and May 9! I would not want this tradition to remain from the Soviet era!

    at our Base, I don’t remember. It was all unexpected, and not on holidays.

    I had access to the information of the Special Department at that time, and I read about it in the so-called “Newsletters.” Was this true, especially in the Central Asian republics, and for some reason I don’t speak about all the emergency situations, but on holidays they were more often and they were asked to pay close attention to this by the command. I do not want to cast a shadow on our soldiers.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 07
      +2
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      on holidays they were more often

      ... in the studio ... No need to "drive the air."
  13. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 3 January 2018 14: 30
    +1
    Quote: VERESK
    It’s not the fault of the holidays. Everything is bad in our country. It’s hard. Close. Why they crashed ... They also brought us. Not really.

    And when was brother easy for us? This is not a reason to panic. You know, as the hero of the film said, we will live!
    1. HEATHER
      HEATHER 3 January 2018 14: 44
      +1
      We don’t panic, bro. It's just that there is a misunderstanding in this disaster.
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon 3 January 2018 15: 38
        +1
        Quote: VERESK
        It’s just that there is some misunderstanding in this disaster.

        Do you need to create a commission five minutes after the PL, understand everything and report to you? Do not drive horses. There will be an investigation and then it will become clear.
        1. HEATHER
          HEATHER 3 January 2018 16: 02
          +2
          I don’t have to teach me how to disassemble drugs. I’ve got 30 accidents and catastrophes in my investigation, including the last Tu-154 over the Black Sea.
  14. Masya masya
    Masya masya 3 January 2018 14: 32
    +6
    again trouble, from where they did not expect ... my condolences to my relatives and the land rest in peace to the guys! The blades above the head rage
    Trembling control stick.
    You come from the sun and that which is alive,
    You compare with the ground shadow.
    You take it on, take it on yourself
    You are responsible for the outcomes.
    Iron bird, humble trumpet,
    Slides from the sky ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 17: 30
      +3
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Iron bird, humble trumpet,
      Slides from the sky ...

      Vysotsky .. I-YAK fighter ... to tears.
  15. infantry76
    infantry76 3 January 2018 14: 36
    +4
    Lord, with the Saints rest and accept the souls of your servants in peace! Kingdom of Heaven and Eternal Peace! Deep condolences to the family, friends and colleagues!
  16. Bronevick
    Bronevick 3 January 2018 14: 42
    +4
    Condolences to the families of the victims. May the souls of the dead find peace.
  17. HEATHER
    HEATHER 3 January 2018 14: 47
    +4
    ........... MI-24.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 10
      +2
      [quote = VERESK] like you, you don’t understand, you are ready to blame both the pilots and the technicians, and apparently the assemblers and technicians, ... then you insert the video like that ... there is no life platform?
      1. HEATHER
        HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 45
        +1
        I’m ready to accuse you of flooding. About aviation, do not argue with me. And, Yurich. Excuse me, your muzzle on the site appeared in the face. Does heel press? Steering further. It's a pity. And there was an intelligent guy. Do not cough. drinks Do not choke.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 17: 32
          +2
          Quote: VERESK
          Sorry, your face appeared on the site. Does heel presses? Steering further. It's a pity. And there was an intelligent guy. Do not cough. Do not choke.

          drink, "Scribe" ... your choice. Previously, you were also Intelligent ... oversleep, write, I'm not evil. hi
          1. HEATHER
            HEATHER 4 January 2018 15: 38
            +1
            But I'm evil. Sorry, Yurich. Moreover, the news from Syria is bad. How were they able to get Khmeimim there, I don’t understand. Too many victims over the past week. The Charter procedure for the database was canceled during the holidays? I apologize for my psycho. Everything is not very good. hi
  18. Looking for
    Looking for 3 January 2018 14: 59
    0
    How can I hurt. Probably the only power line in the district. It is incomprehensible !!!
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 3 January 2018 15: 10
      +2
      Quote: Seeker
      How can I hurt. Probably the only power line in the district. It is incomprehensible !!!

      fly ... you will understand ...
      1. Captain Nemo
        Captain Nemo 3 January 2018 16: 26
        0
        In Europe, I saw white balls on the BB wires above the highway, indicating the wires actually worn on them. They explained that pilots of rescue and police turntables are physically unable to notice wires without such markers
    2. Maki Avellevich
      Maki Avellevich 3 January 2018 21: 04
      +1
      Quote: Seeker
      How can I hurt. Probably the only power line in the district. It is incomprehensible !!!


      and it didn’t happen
      we had a case when art. a shell (ours) shot down a helicopter (also ours) which was on a mission over Lebanon in Lebanon 2.
      this is how the card sometimes lays
  19. HEATHER
    HEATHER 3 January 2018 15: 06
    +2
    It will be forever in Russia.
  20. 72jora72
    72jora72 3 January 2018 15: 06
    +4
    Quote: Aaron Zawi
    Quote: Andrey K

    Earth rest in peace ....

    This is yes.

    Do you make pluses?
  21. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 3 January 2018 16: 03
    0
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Mar. Tira
    on holidays they were more often

    ... in the studio ... No need to "drive the air."

    But where am I going to get you a copy of those ballots? It was in the early 80s. Yes, and for the copy you could rattle for a sweet soul. But I’m not a god to anticipate your request? But you yourself can hardly predict that during the holidays it could have happened. Otherwise, why should the checks be reinforced? As if you were serving on the moon? But I have a comrade, a commander, sometimes flying with a cognac in a thermos. And I didn’t crash two helicopters, but he and the crew are still fie, fie alive . You don’t drink the experience. Generally I don’t want to swear on such days, especially on the blood of our comrades. Forgive me if I offended, it’s not on purpose.
  22. cap cup
    cap cup 3 January 2018 16: 16
    +2
    Dear deep theorists and practitioners. Doesn’t it seem strange to you that the helicopter crashed on the 31st, but they report the third? And no one put forward the most realistic version of the fire from the ground ....
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 3 January 2018 18: 18
      +4
      Many military men were lifting the grave already on the 31st evening. And about the media, don’t you know that from January 1 to January 2, the main and only event in the news is: how did you celebrate the new year in the world? As they "freed" from coverage of the main news, so they switched to "secondary" ones.
  23. Azazelo
    Azazelo 3 January 2018 17: 13
    +5
    Earth rest in peace, guys.
    1. Rushnairfors
      Rushnairfors 3 January 2018 18: 14
      +4
      The guys also wrote on the 31st evening, they also say the power lines clung. Eternal memory to men. On the 31st in the “SANDBOX”, they also worked out for Su24, sort of from a memory. In Khmeimim sat down with a broken-down Kh.O. Like this
      1. Inuki
        Inuki 6 January 2018 07: 36
        0
        It seems that the clue to the sensational photos of the Su-24 "29 white" with a broken stabilizer from the "military journalist" Roman Saponkov, which he gives out as a result of the shelling of Khmeimim from mortars and which has already been disseminated by all the media. Thank.
  24. LeonidL
    LeonidL 3 January 2018 18: 40
    +2
    Earth rest in peace to heroes-pilots and eternal Memory!
  25. rocket757
    rocket757 3 January 2018 18: 48
    +4
    It happens.
    Winged always take risks, sales in peacetime. A sales man on earth manages to be ruined, and in someone else’s element it is as if ordered.
  26. Nemesis
    Nemesis 3 January 2018 20: 21
    +2
    Well, again ... Putin and the company gave Uzbekistan 12 Mi-35 helicopters, and Russian pilots are crashed on the old Mi-24 ...
  27. dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 3 January 2018 21: 06
    +1
    Quote: VERESK
    They say hooked wires Well, the commander can’t hook the wires. The pilots know and know how. Someone threw such nonsense, to knock on the face. They don’t understand. And they don’t know. It’s not Swan’s theme. When it’s really, they hooked a wire on the left counter. More than one Swan died there, but also my crew. I served 20 years with these guys. They were still in Syria even then.

    Guys, in aviation, as in life, there can be everything. And hook the wires. Even the most experienced make mistakes, sometimes fatal.
    Earth in rotorcraft!
  28. shuravi
    shuravi 3 January 2018 21: 12
    0
    It is sad to admit, but it is the human factor that is very likely.
  29. viktorch
    viktorch 3 January 2018 22: 00
    +1
    they fought and will fight, there are no normal detection and surveillance devices, aviation for the poor it is such that to get somewhere it is necessary to climb point blanket under fire, take risks, including difficult aerobatics to carry out with the risk of getting into some form of flight.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 3 January 2018 22: 15
      0
      Quote: viktorch
      they fought and will fight, there are no normal detection and surveillance devices, aviation for the poor it is such that to get somewhere it is necessary to climb point blanket under fire, take risks, including difficult aerobatics to carry out with the risk of getting into some form of flight.


      Come on. What the hell are PMV detection devices? There is nothing better than the eye invented.
      And piloting is only manual, no self-propelled guns.
      Just what the hell to plan flights and flights on such days? Someone from the authorities needed to close the reporting? It seems that this "rake" will be eternal.
  30. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 02: 16
    +1
    Quote: mpkmpik
    Rebels destroyed seven Russian aircraft in Syria




    On December 31, Syrian rebels fired mortars at the Russian Khmeimim airbase in Syria, destroying at least seven aircraft — four Su-24 bomber, two Su-25 fighters and one An-27 transport aircraft. This was reported by the Russian publication Kommersant, citing its own sources in the defense system. An ammunition depot was also destroyed, which detonated when a mortar hit.


    Officially, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has not yet commented on this information.

    It is still unknown who is behind the attack on the Khmeimim airbase - radical Islamists fighting on the side of the Islamic State and trying to create a caliphate on the territory of Syria and Iraq, or moderate opposition opposing the regime of dictator Assad. Dislike for Russian military equipment that supports Assad’s army is experienced by both.

    It amazes me how some commentators react to fake news. laughing Well, you are not 5 years old. The head is on the shoulders. Well, we won’t learn how to resist misinformation.
  31. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 02: 19
    0
    Quote: cap cup
    Dear deep theorists and practitioners. Doesn’t it seem strange to you that the helicopter crashed on the 31st, but they report the third? And no one put forward the most realistic version of the fire from the ground ....

    You were told for what reason the helicopter fell. Three hundred times to repeat?
    1. cap cup
      cap cup 4 January 2018 23: 00
      0
      It’s a pity that Valera Matveev, the kingdom of heaven, cannot refute the OFFICIAL version.
  32. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 02: 28
    0
    Quote: sds87
    Quote: figvam
    More Mi-35 near Homs shot down, the crew died.

    It went off: “On the last day of 2017, militants in Syria fired mortars at a Russian air base in Khmeimim, Moscow lost four Su-24 bombers, two Su-35S fighters, an An-72 transport aircraft, Kommersant writes with reference to two military diplomatic sources. " Gone on vacation ...

    Well, you are there too. Bought on this disu laughing So here it is - the information war. We lose in it.
    1. Bosch
      Bosch 4 January 2018 05: 58
      0
      This is not a disinformation, officially announced, unfortunately.
      1. shuravi
        shuravi 4 January 2018 12: 38
        0
        Officially called desa.
  33. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 02: 35
    +1
    Quote: VERESK
    ............................ damn what. How can this be? For 20 years, we have never been a tragedy. And here, the car went to the base! Something is wrong here. I wanted to see Komeska (show off). Our people just don’t fall. Machines are very reliable. Even the Mi-8t! It's a great car. But something that Syria doesn't understand. Something we don’t agree on.

    You were told that the helicopter crashed for technical reasons. So? What else do you need? And the rest you are not supposed to know.
  34. Ilja2016
    Ilja2016 4 January 2018 02: 40
    +1
    Quote: Professor
    Russian Mi-24 helicopter crashed on December 31 due to technical malfunction when flying to Hama airport in Syria

    There is other information:
    As reported on Wednesday, on January 3, on the CIT Telegram channel, the Mi-24 helicopter escorted a convoy near the village of al-Zar, Hama province. Aircraft hit the wires and crashed. As a result, Major Artem Kulish and the second crew member Matveyev were killed (full name is established).

    More details: https://www.newsru.com/world/03jan2018/gibel.html

    "There is other information"
    There is no information but misinformation. These are different concepts)) Do not confuse.
  35. Sergey Averchenkov
    Sergey Averchenkov 4 January 2018 02: 43
    +1
    Something is hard to believe. Any board will be tested before departure - all helicopter parameters are checked. No one will launch a helicopter from an airfield without this test. Although hell knows, maybe now everything has changed.
  36. Feka
    Feka 4 January 2018 04: 51
    +1
    In short, summing up your two-day "srach", comrades "slightly non-drinker" officers, what we have from the information:
    First, as our Israeli friends reported
    the military only officially confirmed the death of two pilots piloting the Russian Mi-24 helicopter that day. According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, there was no fire effect on the helicopter - the equipment itself failed.
    Secondly, according to our [media = https: //news.mail.ru/politics/32144905/? Fr
    ommail = 1] and the rest are VERY DESERVANT MEDIA TRUST type "b" (I especially liked The emergency incident at the Syrian air base Khmeimim "Kommersant" became known from two military-diplomatic sources. Without going into details, they reported), for now.
    There is only one question: what are we waving checkers in advance? I want to wave - the machine in the teeth and on an obstacle course. Immediately burst out laughing.
  37. Feka
    Feka 4 January 2018 05: 35
    0
    In the meantime, taking advantage of the lack of "moderators" and the people in general in this topic, and in general the fact that I was awesome as much as RESOURCE, I will say the following:
    Guys, how glad I am to hear you all. Especially our Israeli friends: Aaron, Oleg the “professor”, I’m sorry for Zhenya “Pimply”, no, he would make everyone laugh in this topic.
    “Tatyana,” you are, as always, the kindest and most forgiving. The last one left?
    Who from the old epaulettes is still here - patience.
    Apollon - eternal memory, he was a good person. I forgot who I forgot.
    Anyone else who has grown from last year’s pure epaulettes to somewhere is a “bazaar”, guys, even our brothers “smiles” officially refer to this RESOURCE. Good luck to everyone, LOVE and PATIENCE. With us stupid wink
    And now, ban for flood and offtopic fellow
  38. Bosch
    Bosch 4 January 2018 05: 55
    0
    31.12.2017/72/1 Khmeimim: - AN-24 - 4, - SU-35 - 2, - SU-XNUMX - XNUMX.
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 4 January 2018 12: 36
      +2
      It takes half a day to fire from a mortar, in order to destroy how much. Crap shorter.
      1. viktorch
        viktorch 4 January 2018 15: 42
        +1
        Well, there is an option with combining carts with mortars into a division, the first mortar-Barmaley green-armed jeep mobile division, theoretically, would have had enough firepower to burn seven sides in one baboon rush raid
    2. Feka
      Feka 4 January 2018 16: 09
      0
      Quote: Bosch
      31.12.2017/72/1 Khmeimim: - AN-24 - 4, - SU-35 - 2, - SU-XNUMX - XNUMX.

      Well, let's estimate, so, for "Believing in all the media." The "spirits" came running, dragged mortars, stibanuli one or two shots, rasshrechatili all, fled back. Our Gunners, now you’ll get another “srach”. They will also recall the range of our “Samovars” and “Trays” (the “spirits” have no others, right?), The time to enter a position, shoot without shooting, even just the weight of this “bulldozer”, etc. Yes, and in itself a mortar is an expensive thing, to stupidly throw it. This is not for you "Javelin" for "smacks" after all.
      1. maw
        maw 4 January 2018 21: 50
        0
        120 mm with a wheel travel (B-20) in the stowed position 540 kg. Transfer time from marching to combat is no more than a minute. Firing range 5600m, and with additional beams, if not mistaken - 7100m. A trained calculation, on a hard shot, 3-4 mines per minute is real. But these "things" still need to be dragged + ammunition, this is not a "Bumblebee" and not a "Fly".
  39. Dargavs
    Dargavs 4 January 2018 14: 32
    0
    Quote: Bosch
    31.12.2017/72/1 Khmeimim: - AN-24 - 4, - SU-35 - 2, - SU-XNUMX - XNUMX.

    We look at the first of the sites with information provided by you: http://gi-wom.ru/napadenie-na-bazu-hmejmim-siriya
    -vse-poslednie-svedeniya. LOOK at information about the resource: "All materials on this site are taken from open sources - have a back link to the material on the Internet or sent by visitors to the site and are provided for informational purposes only. The rights to the materials belong to their owners. The site administration is not responsible for the content of the material."
  40. garius
    garius 4 January 2018 23: 03
    0
    Quote: VERESK
    It touched the wires ... To get ready for the training of our helicopter pilots. They came from where! Even in Magadan there are wires. And we can do something against the Americans? I have not heard that they are


    There are big doubts that you are a helicopter pilot ...
    1. shuravi
      shuravi 5 January 2018 00: 41
      0
      And he is not a helicopter pilot.
      By the way, here is a good illustration of why wires are caught with enviable regularity. Despite the fact that all ears buzzed about the fact that power lines cross only over the support.