In Tula, opened a memorial plaque to the first Russian defense minister Pavel Grachev

A memorial plaque was opened in Tula in honor of the Hero of the Soviet Union, Army General Pavel Grachev, the regional government’s press service reported on Friday.

The blackboard is installed on the facade of the school where he studied - now it is “Education Center No. XXUMX”. P. Grachev graduated from this school in 6 year. The school museum has a section dedicated to the ex-Minister of Defense, his contribution to the development of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Here are regularly held meetings with his fellow soldiers, relatives and classmates.

The whole country knows Pavel Sergeyevich Grachev as a combat officer, paratrooper, a true patriot. Today we pay tribute to this courageous commander, opening a plaque in his honor

- said at the ceremony, the governor of the Tula region Alexey Dyumin.

Army General, Hero of the Soviet Union P. Grachev - born in the Tula region. Participated in hostilities in Afghanistan, was the commander of the airborne troops. In 1992-1996 - Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation. He personally led the military operations of the Russian army in the Chechen Republic in 1994-1995.

P. Grachev was awarded two Orders of Lenin, two Orders of the Red Banner and the Order of the Red Star, the Orders For Personal Courage and Honor. He passed away on 23 on September 2012 of the year on 65's year of life. He was buried at the Novodevichy cemetery in Moscow.

Comments

[Nemesis]

With the same success, you can hang a memorial plaque to Hitler on Rublevka ... And what, in terms of the amount of damage done to Russia by Yeltsin and the company, perhaps surpassed the Third Reich ...

[Finches]

The general is military, of course, but in the 94th he really screwed up, and in 1993 ... However, he was not a politician and Yeltsin simply used it .... But this does not relieve him of responsibility! In this case, it was possible to wait a while with the tablet ...!

[svp67]

Quote: Finches

However, not a politician and Yeltsin just used it ....

Yes, yes .. and "Pasha Mercedes" to him just stuck so .... purely by accident.

[Finches]

Sticks a shortcut of labor is not big! He was not a parquet general, but climbed into politics in which he didn’t understand nichrome, and broke ... Yes, and, apparently, he understood a lot later and I do not exclude that he left at 64 because of this ... Soldier blood always It sounds like no matter how cool a general you are ...

[210ox]

We have quite a few good professionals in the army. But where do they go when they get into politics? Grachev, Lebed, Shamanov .. Vot Bondarev is now sweeping at the politician ... I’ve approached age, go on vacation with a clear conscience and military orders. And don’t seek fame in this political outhouse ..

Quote: Finches

Sticks a shortcut of labor is not big! He was not a parquet general, but climbed into politics in which he didn’t understand nichrome, and broke ... Yes, and, apparently, he understood a lot later and I do not exclude that he left at 64 because of this ... Soldier blood always It sounds like no matter how cool a general you are ...

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Finches

Sticks a shortcut of labor is not big! He was not a parquet general, but climbed into politics, in which he did not understand nichrome, and broke loose ..

Remember the first assault on Grozny?

[Finches]

Just carefully read the comment ... please!

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Finches

Just carefully read the comment ... please! hi

I remember how my father and colleagues who went through the war were indignant. But Grachev is not a green lieutenant who needs to know how to take cities, but a minister. Ah, the board should be. Let the young generation know that there was such a “Pasha Mercedes with an airfield,” Yeltsin’s assistant.

[Serg65]

He screwed up first in the Flycatcher when the Black Sea Fleet drank!

[Piramidon]

Quote: Finches

The general is military, of course, but in the 94th he really screwed up, and in 1993 ... However, he was not a politician and Yeltsin simply used it .... But this does not relieve him of responsibility! In this case, it was possible to wait a while with the tablet ...!

The maximum that he pulled is the position of division commander, but not MO.

[Finches]

We Shoigu not only a division, did not even command a platoon, but nothing that does something ...

[Sewer krainiy]

The patriots of their homeland are commanding. But Pashka told EBN.u, we’ll take Chechnya with a paratrooper division ... and what happened. And Mercedes Pashka from where. Know or remind?

[Finches]

I don’t think that you were present with all this, to assert with 100% probability. For example, Shamanov interprets this expression differently ... This is not even the case - there is no man, and he doesn’t have to, he’s shit right now - he’s not a politician, but a military man, and he won’t be able to justify himself! He, by and large, like many of us, is a hostage to those dashing 90s - a high-ranking, but a hostage! I’m not taking responsibility from him, but in this case it’s not worth it to go too far! He’s most likely already answered for himself where he should ... But for guys like Gorbachev and Yeltsin, demand must be in full!

[Sewer krainiy]

I was not present ... But the guys who were there and left the GSVG talked about trains with German vehicles going in our direction. They talked about him ... And, about the "tagged" and "drunk" - I agree.

[Finches]

But who is not without sin then ... But now this does not play a special role - everyone carried the GSVG as much as possible. That's life! The country was crumbling, the mood was from ordinary to marshal — that they betrayed, and they lived one day! So here, to whom and throw a stone — those who sold weapons to third countries, they really did it in vain! Not good .. .Softly say! So and then, here stood behind this, I think, the first persons of the state ... Let's not talk about it! There is no direct evidence and there is nothing to scratch your tongue!

[Aviator_]

No, a sign is needed. Only on it all the achievements of Pasha Mercedes must be written. And about the capture of Grozny by one regiment in the 1994 year, too.

[Andrei]

Probably if you count those who took Kabul, then it’s just typed into the regiment, and 345th Guards Special Operations Regiment paratroopers took part in the capture of important objects in the city. and if everything was done wisely and on time, then Grozny could be taken straight in one regiment.

[alekc73]

They don’t speak badly about the dead. But Grozny, January 1995. It is impossible to forget, it is impossible to forgive.

[Theodore]

Except the truth! But she is bitter!

[Sewer krainiy]

They say nothing about the dead, or the truth. So right, the rest is invented.

[Herculesic]

Hang, and even put up a monument - not far off will be this shameful action!

[Nemesis]

Here I am talking about ... We have already heard the anti-Russian speech of a Ukrainian schoolchild in Germany, and this schoolchildren has not even been deprived of Russian citizenship ... Where further ...

[SRC P-15]

Quote: Nemesis

.Anti-Russian performance of a Ukrainian student in Germany

What Ukrainian student, what are you talking about?

[Nemesis]

And in your opinion, a person with that surname, by nationality who ?! Is it not a Ukrainian ?!

[SRC P-15]

I don’t even want to comment on your opus!

[Nemesis]

But I don’t see that you write neither truth, nor logic ... The fact that in the Russian Federation is full of Russophobia patients with foreign citizenship of the Russian Federation, who either make anti-Russian appearances in Germany, then they blow up the metro in St. Petersburg, then they make mess in the cities of Russia, as in Hatkovo and Kandapog, apparently remains a secret only for the United Russia party, which, when in power, is responsible for this whole mess

[Chichikov]

Logic and truth, not sisters! In which country does a monolithic social society exist?

[Fitter]

In the DPRK and Switzerland.

[eaz]

what is your last name ???

[a housewife]

I also have a Ukrainian surname! I'M RUSSIAN! What would you say if the same boy had the last name Ivanov?

[Mik13]

Quote: Nemesis

Here I am talking about ... We have already heard the anti-Russian speech of a Ukrainian schoolchild in Germany, and this schoolchildren has not even been deprived of Russian citizenship ... Where further ...

Quote: Nemesis

And in your opinion, a person with that surname, by nationality who ?! Is it not a Ukrainian ?!

Quote: housewife

I also have a Ukrainian surname! I'M RUSSIAN! What would you say if the same boy had the last name Ivanov?

Well, if you suddenly did not notice, that is exactly what Nazism actually looks like. Just some manifestations - they are so incomprehensible and visually harmless.
But this is precisely Nazism, I dare to assure you. The most that neither is.
PS
By the way, especially for the gifted. If you follow this logic, then Alexander Prokhorenko, Hero of Russia posthumously, is also Ukrainian by nationality, judging by his last name. Maybe he, too, would be deprived of his citizenship for this? Posthumously? And his children can be in life. And deport to their historical homeland in Kiev. BUT?

[Nemesis]

By the way, especially for the gifted ... In 2008, the FSB of Russia detained a colonel of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, a Georgian by nationality, for espionage in favor of Georgia ... The nationalities in the Russian Federation are unreliable and this Ukrainian’s anti-Russian appearance in Germany confirms this again ...

[Mik13]

Quote: Nemesis

The nationalities in the Russian Federation are unreliable and the anti-Russian speech of this Ukrainian in Germany once again confirms this ...

Vlasov, if anything, was Russian. And Krasnov too.
Yes, Yeltsin and Grachev (on the board which article) are not Georgians.
And Gorbachev, too, is never a "national leader."
That Stalin was a "national man." As he called himself, "Russian of Georgian origin." It turned out to be very unreliable ... It was necessary to deprive him of his citizenship in advance and to send him to Georgia. By the way, one Hero of Russia of Chechen nationality proposes this - it is necessary, he says, to take Stalin's ashes to Georgia and bury them there. Do you agree with him? Or let it lie still in Moscow?

[Nemesis]

ROA Germans formed from the Soviet national minorities such as Naumenko and von Lampe

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

such as Naumenko

and you know who in RI called Russian?

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

In 2008, the FSB of Russia detained a colonel of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, a Georgian by nationality, for espionage in favor of Georgia

Oleg Danilovich Kalugin - RUSSIAN

Quote: Nemesis

The nationalities in the Russian Federation are unreliable

Valeria Novodvorskaya - the reliability of the wrong and pearl

[Nemesis]

So, the Novodvorskaya Russophobia patient is a Polish girl, which once again confirms my belief that it’s not worth completely trusting people like her ....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

that people like her should not be completely trusted ....

to the Poles ?!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

Polish girl

you would have more knowledge, you look stupid and would stop

[a housewife]

Once again I am surprised! Well, who cares what nationality a person is! Nationality is parents, but they are not chosen! Also, parents did not choose. And in any nationality there are normal people, but there are louts and Judas, thieves, murderers, etc. There are always more normal ones. Why look at nationality, each person should be considered separately, judged by actions. People are not a herd of sheep, each is individual. At least - who has a nickname here. Someone is proud of their last name. Why not. I personally immediately became a housewife. The site is male, military, I’m not trying to make myself an expert in military affairs, I’m just curious here. Others take nicknames that somehow express their perception of themselves in the world, often humor. Nemesis. Goddess of vengeance and retribution. To whom and for what does this man who calls himself Nemesis avenge? Nemesis protects order. This man does not protect order; he defends enmity. Even if he begins to be called differently, then according to his statements he will be quickly calculated.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: housewife

I personally immediately became a housewife.

[Nemesis]

In the United States, a person accepting US citizenship vows to defend the United States with weapons in his hands, including from his historical homeland, if he is a migrant ... In Russia, the situation is different ... Today in Russia there are many patriots of foreign states suffering from Russophobia who are ready at the front shoot us in the back, like this Bandera schoolboy, and this is not right and unacceptable ... The fact that foreigners hostile to Russia have Russian citizenship is a crime of the existing state system against Russia, on the verge of absurdity ... which will again come up with a big RF problems ...

[Nemesis]

He would say that he only has a Russian surname ... But this Bandera is typical ... and this is not the place in the Russian Federation ....

[weksha50]

Quote: housewife

I also have a Ukrainian surname! I'M RUSSIAN! What would you say if the same boy had the last name Ivanov?

I also spoke about my surname more than once ... And that I - Russian by birth, territory and spirit - also ... But people like Nemesis stir up the water in society, incite hostility from scratch ...
In / in Ukraine, even in the Rada and in the government, there are a lot of people with purely Russian surnames, which does not prevent them from being ardent, frenzied Russophobes ...
Some petty, stupid Black Hundreds ... Ugh!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

And in your opinion, a person with that surname, by nationality who ?! Is it not a Ukrainian ?!

I am Russian and I will give in the face to anyone who will dispute it, Russian is not a cut of the eyes, not the color of the hair, and even less the last name

[Nemesis]

If you consider the body with the Ukrainian surname and Bandera antics Russian, then you are not Russian ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

And in your opinion, a person with that surname, by nationality who ?! Is it not a Ukrainian ?!

it is YOU nationality you consider by name, so that you do not need to change shoes

[Nemesis]

And here nationality, both by surname and by anti-Russian activity, is understandable to everyone except you, apparently ... A typical Russophobe and Bandera ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

And here nationality, both by surname and by anti-Russian activity, is quite understandable to everyone except you apparently ...

Well, judging by the comments, only you can understand

Quote: Nemesis

Typical Russophobe and Bandera ...

Who are you now ?!

[Nemesis]

It’s clear not only to me, judging by the parties that were not allowed in the Russian Federation before the elections ... They forbid, it means they are afraid in the Kremlin that people will vote for them, and not for those who turn Russia into a passage yard, for foreign bandits, such as this Bandera schoolboy lost in the Russian Federation

[Letun]

Quote: Nemesis

If you consider the body with the Ukrainian surname and Bandera antics Russian, then you are not Russian ...

Well, specifically your comments prove only one thing, idiots and people are in every nation

[Nemesis]

My comments only say that Russia is getting smarter and the heads of Russians are being freed from Soviet scam ...

[Letun]

Quote: Nemesis

My comments only say that Russia is getting smarter and the heads of Russians are being freed from Soviet scam ...

It’s only a pity that you stayed away from this process. Depriving schoolchildren of citizenship, before that even in the scoop would not have thought

[Nemesis]

Such Russian schoolchildren were burned alive in Odessa .... You are trying on the role of devil's advocates for us, and probably not without reason ... People like you are there, they pay taxes on the ATO and loot in the APU .... love for Bandera ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

and Russian heads are freed from shovels of deception ...

young lady, oh sorry, not a young lady, but from what deception did you personally free yourself?

[Nemesis]

From the deception which the Russian people were stuffed stealing from him Crimea, Donbass, Odessa, Faithful and other Russian lands ....

[Captain Nemo]

Yes, eat a Jew right away,

[ando_bor]

Kohl is not guilty, Stalin is guilty, did not outweigh all the Nazis as war criminals, so they had to die as innocent prisoners of war, and Kohl only told the Germans that Stalin bequeathed - the Germans need to tell Stalin's wills, the Germans begin to forget them.

[Finches]

Nemesis

Let's shoot him publicly - in the Olympic, for example, as in China!

[Vasya Vassin]

I support. Then we burn it on a gas burner, mix the ashes with manure and shoot towards POLAND!

[Letun]

Quote: Nemesis

this student was not even deprived of citizenship of the Russian Federation ... Where further ...

Did you quarrel with your head there? Maybe it was necessary to shoot? Oh, you’re not living at that time, such as you turned 36 well ...

[Nemesis]

Such students have already deployed in Odessa, burned dozens of Russians alive ...

[Antares]

Quote: Nemesis

performance of a Ukrainian student in Germany

Nikolai Desyatnichenko is a native Russian by the parents of Russians.
But by the pike, all the "bad" people for the crowd always have the citizenship of Ukraine, a US grant, Hitler’s handbook and something else from the Jews ...

[Nemesis]

Dyatyrenko - a Bandera of Ukrainian descent and his beliefs did not come from scratch ... I’m sure the whole family of this schoolchild is sick with Russophobia and Bandera, because the apple from the apple tree does not fall far ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

Dyatyrenko - a Bandera of Ukrainian descent and his beliefs did not come from scratch ... I’m sure the whole family of this schoolchild is sick with Russophobia and Bandera, because the apple from the apple tree does not fall far ...

you would have to heal, although I think it will not make sense
I’ve already spoken about stake in my time, there’s no reason to chew on a new one,
but you are a patriot, it’s not clear which gender is very strange
on the one hand take offense at the young lady and declare that it seems like the masculine sex on the other, take a nickname with a female name
on the one hand you tear a vest on your chest proving your Russianness; on the other hand, your nickname is the name of the Greek goddess, although the Slavs have their own goddess of revenge

weird you people

[Nemesis]

You are treating your fellow countryman Desyatrenko about Bandera and Russophobia, although I think that they should treat him in the fresh air, under the supervision of the Federal Penitentiary Service of the Russian Federation, somewhere in Anadyr, or Magadan ... together with his family, because they are all Bandera ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

You are your fellow countryman

but why did you decide that Kolya-Wehrmacht comes from Alma-Ata?

[Russia]

On the wall of the school where Kolya studies, you must also install a sign: "HERE TEACHED KOLA."

[1 Navigator]

The whole country knows Mercedes Pasha as a thief and a traitor.

[Herculesic]

Now the forum users will pour cars of the black man, the reaction to this shame with the board may be different, but most importantly, remain people, do not get personal, and do not cling to grammatical errors!

[Dym71]

Quote: Herkulesich

and don't cling to gramsоical errors!

We will cling! the test word is grammar.
Our tongue is sweet, pure, and puffy, and rich;
But poorly we bring into it a good warehouse;
So that by ignorance we are not dishonored,
We need to fix our entire warehouse a little.

[a housewife]

Negative and grammatical ....

[just exp]

now the State Department freshman again lit up with his pro-American look.
You are here to tell us about the valiant rebels from Ichkeria who fought against the white barbarians invaders.

[Herculesic]

Is it just that you’ve made an attack on whose address? Or does pseudo-paoriotism strike, does the roof smoke? ??

[just exp]

but lol, by the way, according to the methodology, the State Department recommended that everyone mow under the patriots, since liberalism failed, so Liberal bots have USSR symbols on ava and in signatures everywhere.

[ando_bor]

Quote: just explo

according to the training manual, the State Department recommended that everyone mow under patriots

Yes, the State Department gives money to everyone for “your just cause”, they only kindled it more,
having been defeated on the liberal front, those who took the money have completely discredited themselves, are paying more and more attention to patriots, I’m watching State Deputies trolls for Grudinin’s blowing, the boy Kolya is being untwisted, and about the Olympics, his hair is torn in hysterics. There is a war against Russia, who said that they will not shoot at us, Crimea and Syria will be forgiven, they will just give Ukraine away - will they dust their hair with ash and crawl away right away?

[Greenwood]

They there in the government and the State Duma completely went off the hike. Otherwise, I cannot explain this conveyor of monuments and memorial tablets to dubious persons.

[Serg65]

Quote: Greenwood

They there in the government and the State Duma completely went roof

The board was hung on the school by decree of the government?

[Fitter]

I will not be surprised :(

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

According to a number of media reports, in November 1994, a number of personnel officers of the Russian army, with the knowledge of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense, took part in hostilities on the side of forces opposed to Chechen President Dzhokhar Dudaev. Several Russian officers were captured. The Minister of Defense, denying his awareness of the participation of his subordinates in the hostilities on the territory of Chechnya, called the captured officers deserters and mercenaries and said that Grozny could be captured in two hours by the forces of one paratrooper regiment.

[Sewer krainiy]

+++ Just do not remember - a division or regiment.

[albert]

On REN TV, recently, in “Military Secret”, there was a curious story about the storming of Grozny’s New Year. They claimed that shortly before the operation, by teletype from the Kremlin, someone gave Dudaev maps of plans for the storming of the city. If this is true, then this is a complete kayuk.

[skomfit]

Of this type, the sea of ​​guys fell into the first Chechen one, he would have to put a monument in the form of an aspen stake, he and General Lebed for the conclusion of a shameful world, when there was a step before our victory.

[vladimirvn]

I understand. And time was like that and the situation. But if he had personally led the entry of troops into Chechnya and took responsibility for every dead person. I would take off my hat. And so .....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: vladimirvn

I understand

but I don’t understand what was happening, ordinary people could not understand, but in 91 he specifically changed the oath, I wonder if two orders of Lenin did not burn the chest?

[vladimirvn]

And most importantly, on the eve of such a date. What's this? Another spit?

[Vadim237]

How much did ours lose in equipment and people during the storming of Grozny?

[albert]

The official numbers are 2500 people.

[weksha50]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

and he specifically changed the oath in 91

And, interestingly, about this fact no one even mentions ... In fact, this was the beginning of his Marshall-Mercedes career ... Human memory is short-lived ...

[fa2998]

Quote: Nemesis

With the same success, you can hang a memorial plaque to Hitler on Rublevka ... And what, in terms of the amount of damage done to Russia by Yeltsin and the company, perhaps surpassed the Third Reich ...

It was necessary to write - “Pasha Mercedes”, and everyone would understand what kind of figure the board was hung. They didn’t plant a bad thing, but now they magnify it! Forgot what things you turned?

[moskowit]

But Marshal Akhromeev Sergey Fedorovich, the true Patriot of Russia, who was killed for his allegiance to the Oath, does not put any boards ....

[Cobra77]

Board, Pasha Mercedes? And we laugh at our brothers. Our Ukrainization is also in full swing.

[anjey]

fortunately, it’s a pity the blood on him is a lot of boys in 1995, the new year ..., in vain, why not this board to our parents ... who should be honored there ....

[Zomanus]

Pasha Mercedes? Who stated that he did not send our fighters to Chechnya.
Damn, or well, we have very bad memory
either we hold ourselves for Mr.
I hope that they come to their senses and take off. like a board to Manerheim.

[Sewer krainiy]

They won’t take it off. And the center of Ebn.a will remain. If the power after the election does not change.

[Vetal999]

This ....
What kind of zhopilis.

[midshipman]

They found someone to perpetuate. A shame. I have the honor.

[Doliva63]

None of my comrades who served in the Airborne Forces praises him. While he was in service, still wherever he went, and then - sucks. This is not my opinion, but I agree with him. Among those who said so are officers from the Book of Honor of the Airborne Forces.

[alfa19638]

a memorial plaque to Pasha Mercedes - I don’t want to have a power that makes such decisions

[mavrus]

And this is not the battle general who promised to take Grozny, I don’t remember ... either with two battalions in three days, or with three battalions in two days. It would be necessary to perpetuate this on a plate so that it is not forgotten.

[Vadim237]

It is necessary to hang a tablet next to him with the achievements of this piece, with a list of the dead and wounded, during the storming of Grozny.

[private person]

Many mothers of Russian soldiers will remember Grachev’s birthday. What kind of upbringing of patriotism can we talk about when commemorative plaques are erected to such "honored" people. It would be better to erect a monument to those guys whom this minister sent New Years 94-95 to death.

[Romanenko]

Very controversial personality.
Probably someday, someone will write a book, or make a film about how the paratrooper hero Pavel Grachev, under the influence of circumstances, officials and internal turmoil, turned into a Mercedes Pasha, about circus aircraft carrier caps he invented, about roasted tobacco .. about a lot and a lot of things that would be nice to show how to say "garlic".
Maybe the plaque is the first step on this difficult path?
Who knows?

[weksha50]

Quote: Romanenko

Very controversial personality.
Probably someday, someone will write a book, or make a film about how the hero is a paratrooper...

Ahem ... Changed the oath (read the text of TOY, the Soviet oath), the Soviet government, thereby - helped to ruin the USSR state, which he swore, and helped to come to the "pedestal" of power EBN ... Thus abruptly become the "best of the best" defense ministers of the new-old state ...
I hope there are normal people in Tula - they will not let me hang in school at the school of honor and honor ...

[Romanenko]

And I hope that just does not end

[Brother]

it’s a pity that the military ... they did not shoot the freak.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Nemesis,
Nemesis,

Quote: Nemesis

It’s clear not only to me, judging by the parties that were not allowed in the Russian Federation before the elections ... They forbid, it means they are afraid in the Kremlin that people will vote for them, and not for those who turn Russia into a passage yard, for foreign bandits, such as this Bandera schoolboy lost in the Russian Federation

young lady, there are no problems with the head? !!!

[Nemesis]

I don’t have it, I think you have it too, and you all perfectly understood ... Moreover, I’m sure that everything your party does, it does it consciously and consciously ... I believe that in due time, people who betrayed the St. Petersburg metro that exploded Kyrgyz citizenship of the Russian Federation, the tribunal will still be involved ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

... Moreover, I am sure that everything that your party does, it does consciously and consciously ...

uh
what is this? !!!!!!

Quote: Nemesis

I believe that in due time, persons who issued the citizenship of the Russian Federation that blew up the St. Petersburg metro

I agree, moreover, I think that 90 percent of the Federal Migration Service and district cops should be planted right now
but it has nothing to do with your speech

[Nemesis]

Yes, it’s directly connected, and the party that turns Russia into a front yard for foreign gangsters, this is United Russia and the FMS acts with the sanction of the Kremlin, distributing Russian citizenship to Russophobia-infected terrorists and bandits from (Kyrgyzstan) ... At one time, in the Crime program, they called the nationality and surname of the criminals, so who is the most poor in Russia has long been known ... you have the Internet, see for yourself ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you would have the young lady concentrate, otherwise your answers are somehow not about the wrong way
I will remind your quote around which the debate flared up

Anti-Russian performance of a Ukrainian schoolboy in Germany ....
.... And in your opinion, a person with that name, by nationality who ?! Is it not a Ukrainian ?!

then you attributed some kind of party to me, jumped to EdRO, recalled crime in the diasporas
you somehow decide what you mean

[Nemesis]

You should learn to talk normally with people, without rudeness, before writing to them ... And for me, EdRo is directly connected with ethnic crime, because it generates it, handing out Russian citizenship to foreigners suffering from Russophobia, who then blow up the metro in the Russian Federation

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

talk with people, without rudeness

mdaaaaa
and where did I get you naughty? !!!

Quote: Nemesis

And for me, EdRo is directly related to ethnic crime.

let's say, what does MY party have to do with it ?!

Quote: Nemesis

handing out Russian citizenship to foreigners suffering from Russophobia, who then explode in the Russian metro

young lady again I repeat the question to you arose about your not very competent wording, that Kolya-Wehrmacht is a UKRAINIAN schoolchild.
you can relate to Stalin, EP, FMS and everything else, but the above Russian student

[Nemesis]

The young lady is your mother, I am not her, lord (good) ... For this, the conversation with you is over, your impudence is tired of me, to put it mildly ... On the street, you will not risk talking to anyone like that ... Your Kolya is a Ukrainian- Russophobe, one of many who need to be deprived of citizenship of the Russian Federation for Russophobia and anti-Russian activity ...

[Signal]

You fucked up guys just fucked up ...

[Romanenko]

We must remember that it does not happen again.
Serdyukov, too, would be nice to hang a plaque somewhere in the public toilet, only lower

[Nemesis]

Even if they put monuments to Yeltsin and companies in sartirs, they have the right place

[tank66]

This is how Trotsky put monuments to Judah? Parallel-spiral .ugu. I see.

[TOPchymBA]

Jude Monument is a fake.

[tank66]

Is Medvedev Solzhenitsyn better?

[TOPchymBA]

This museum was done.

[TOPchymBA]

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This video correctly says that there will always be those who will do any abomination for money
For which he installed a board.

[garnik]

A bad or good story will judge. But he is the only one who agreed to head the Moscow Region during the Chechen company, the others urgently had unforeseen situations. And in support of the leader of the state, everyone was mistaken.

[Fedorovich]

What the f ** xy n *** i? ..

[Megatron]

Scum. Nothing more to say.

[Captain Nemo]

On its rolling 3% set? Or for the budget? Survivors in the New Year's storming of Grozny called for the opening?

[Vadim237]

They would unblock everyone who "discovered" the memory of the freak with this tile.

[APASUS]

"Pasha Mercedes" became famous during his lifetime with his exploits in the field of zakidonov. Despite the fact that he served in Afghanistan, the brain didn’t have enough to understand what he was signing for. He put the people on New Year's Day in Chechnya, and they opened the boards for him. Still, he would have cast a monument of gold in place with a Mercedes.

[The Siberian barber]

.. On the one hand, Afghanistan ..
On the other: Chechnya and the "organized" conclusion of the Western Group ..
Board, for Afghanistan?

[Aviator_]

Well, let the board open in Afghanistan.

[weksha50]

Quote: cobra77

Board, Pasha Mercedes? And we laugh at our brothers. We have Ukrainization is also in full swing.

We have - debilitation the younger generation ...

[Nemesis]

Vasilenko Vladimir,
Porridge in Putin’s head, he doesn’t understand which country he lives in, as well as all these (Ukrainian) boys who organize anti-Russian performances in Germany ... In the USA, a person who obtains US citizenship vows to defend the USA with arms in his hands, including from his historical Motherland, if he is a migrant, and in Russia there are too many patriots of foreign countries suffering from Russophobia and this has long become a big problem that is obvious to everyone except Putin and the company

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

in Russia there are too many Russophobia patients of foreign patriots

I don’t argue, though there are still a lot of sick people who have such a blizzard that you don’t know who they are worse or Russophobes, as the obliging fool says ...

[Nemesis]

In Russia, 84% of Russians, in second place in terms of the number of indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation are Tatars .... and we do not need foreigners to evaluate ... Evaluate the activities of your relatives in the Armed Forces and the Security Service of Ukraine

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

In Russia, 84% of Russians are in second place in terms of the number of indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation Tatars .... and we do not need estimates of foreigners ...

and who is the foreigner here ?!
I am a citizen of Russia, then you are a foreigner

Quote: Nemesis

.Evaluate the activities of your relatives in the Armed Forces and the Security Service of Ukraine

you even dohtur not help

[Nemesis]

You are defending Bandera and the conclusion that you are more than obvious ... Apparently the Tenfold and Vasilenko about one berry field

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

You protect Bandera

if you don’t give an example where, when and how I defended Bendera’s, I’m waiting for an apology for your lie

[Sewer krainiy]

Vasilenko Vladimir,
That is not porridge ... age, apparently.

[Nemesis]

Tell me who your friend is and I’ll tell you who you are ... You only confirm my point ... Among the republics of the scoop, the Russian Federation has no friends or allies

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

Among the republics of the scoop in the Russian Federation

you live sick thanks to the "scoop"
therefore bother choosing expressions

[Nemesis]

This scoop still lives at the expense of and to the detriment of Russia, continuing to overeat it .... Moreover, instead of thanks to the Russian Federation, foreigners suffering from Russophobia, from the countries of the former scoop, coming to Russia blow up the metro in Russia ... This Russophobia-sick scoop continues to occupy Russian lands and genocide of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation in the occupied Soviet territory

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

This scoop and today lives at the expense of and to the detriment of Russia, continuing to overeat it ....

Quote: Nemesis

This scoop sick with Russophobia continues the occupation of Russian lands and genocide of the indigenous population of the Russian Federation in the occupied Soviet territories

I won’t be surprised at all if it suddenly turns out that you go with a shaved head and ziguyut when meeting with the same ....

the only thing I am surprised at is the local moderators

[Nemesis]

I am amazed at the Russian government, which keeps all your Sobchak and DyatirenO, who should have been rotting in prison for a long time under article 280 of the Criminal Code, at least ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

all your Sobchak and the Ten

mdaaaa
клиника

[Sewer krainiy]

Quote: Nemesis

Vasilenko Vladimir,
Porridge in Putin’s head, he doesn’t understand which country he lives in, as well as all these (Ukrainian) boys who organize anti-Russian performances in Germany ... In the USA, a person who obtains US citizenship vows to defend the USA with arms in his hands, including from his historical Motherland, if he is a migrant, and in Russia there are too many patriots of foreign countries suffering from Russophobia and this has long become a big problem that is obvious to everyone except Putin and the company

At the end of the American-Vietnamese war (let’s say so) anti-war sentiments rose sharply in America (rallies, demonstrations, refusal of military service), which helped its end, America lost. We concluded: patriotic education, we see the results.
The Soviet Union, the 90s, and now, sprinkle ashes on our heads, repent, repent - we see the results ...

[Antares]

about the dead either good or nothing.
This rule cannot be respected, remembering the same TV and news from Chechnya ...
They said higher than this person was “remembered”.

[health]

spineless MO, afraid to protest Yeltsin, and therefore sent the boys to the formidable. Pasha Mercedes! afghan- honor and praise! but where does the failed MO? I am silent about corruption. I will support the demolition of this board as not a traitor, but a person who does not deserve this honor.

[Seraphimamur]

A little later, Chubais will be erected a monument.

[Aviator_]

Desirable tombstone, on a fresh grave.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Nemesis,

Quote: Nemesis

From the deception which the Russian people were stuffed stealing from him Crimea, Donbass, Odessa, Faithful and other Russian lands ....

how old are you?!!!
didn’t you know that these are Russian cities ?!

[garik77]

He personally led the hostilities of the Russian army in the Chechen Republic in 1994-1995.

More precisely, that I lost everything ..

[Dormidont]

Initially, it might not have been a bad officer. But after in Yeltsinism, he was soiled head over heels that he did not wash himself to death. And now, together with a three-fingered drunk, you know, in one pan in hell is fried. Everything is like Mannerheim.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Nemesis,

Quote: Nemesis

In the United States, a person accepting US citizenship vows to defend the United States with weapons in his hands, including from his historical Homeland, if he is a migrant ...

in the USA you would have justified yourself in court with your statements about nationalities

[Nemesis]

In the United States for speaking out against the United States, the Otatyrenko family would have at least been deprived of a residence permit in the United States ... In the United States, those who oppose the United States are quickly deported from the United States ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

In the United States for speaking out against the United States, the Otatyrenko family would have at least been deprived of a residence permit in the United States

I repeat once again, you yourself in the United States would have been on trial

Quote: Nemesis

Family of Ten

I understand that this is a subtle hint of nationality? !!!!

[Nemesis]

In the USA, during the Second World War, all Japanese, including those with US citizenship, were driven to a concentration camp before the end of the war .... There, the state punishes very clearly and severely any manifestation of loyalty to the US hostile state and even takes proactive preventive measures ....

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

In the USA during the Second World War, all Japanese, including those with US citizenship, were driven to a concentration camp before the end of the war ....

this is what? !!!!
By the way, I can say about one more idiotic case in the USA, a Japanese was lynched there for giving signals to Japanese submarines, though the situation was idiotic that there were more than 200 miles to the coast, I think the court was arranged the same as you

Among the first aggressors were defenders of the Brest Fortress - regiment commander Major A. Dulkait, medical lieutenant colonel E. Kroll, lieutenant colonel G. Schmidt, senior lieutenant A. Wagenleitner, foreman V. Meyer, privates N. Kyung, G. Killing, 3. Miller

[Nemesis]

I’m really tired of you, that’s why I am writing to you one last time and point by point .... 1) I wrote that the Russian family of people with Russophobia, the Desyatyrenko family, the Bandera family, is anti-Russian, lives .... You began to claim that they, supposedly Russian ... There are no Russian Bandera, there are no Russian Bandera, with Russian surnames ... And here the surname and contents are far from Russia and I don’t understand why such people are not yet deprived of a residence permit in the Russian Federation for anti-Russian activities and they weren’t sent to their historical Motherland ... You were outraged by my views, but these are your problems ... 2) German and Japanese submarines drowned the transport ships of the United States and its allies, including off the coast of the United States and if the Japanese were shot in the United States, helped Japan in the war against the United States, from the point of view of the United States this is a completely justified measure of influence, according to the laws of wartime ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

I wrote that in Russia lives a family of Russophobia Desyatirenko

You wrote that KOLA UKRAINIAN SCHOOLBOARD
after you started to carry the Nazi heresy that all the national enemies of Russia

Quote: Nemesis

You outraged my views

and it was your Nazi statements that revolted me, about Georgians, about Ukrainians, and about other Russian citizens
you are a Nazi, and what a stupid and uneducated

Quote: Nemesis

German and Japanese submarines sank the transport ships of the United States and its allies, including off the coast of the United States, and if in the United States they shot a Japanese who helped Japan in the war against the United States, then from the point of view of the United States this is a completely justified measure of influence, according to the laws of wartime. ..

and this phrase only confirms your stupidity; the person could not give light signals to the ice for being 300 miles from the shore
study and then we can discuss

[Nemesis]

Your schoolboy’s anti-Russian statements and espionage in favor of Georgia only confirm that I’m right, and you have only emotions and an attempt to clear up dirty affairs such as they are in the Russian Federation. I don’t need to write more, everyone will be of their own opinion ... By the way, another one called to the Ukrainian Embassy and reported on the movement of the Russian troops in Russia ... So enough for you to try on the role of the devil’s lawyer ... These people commit criminal offenses in the Russian Federation ... and I sincerely hope that the time will come when they will be punished for them deserved

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

Your student’s anti-Russian statements and espionage in favor of Georgia

are you raving ?!
this student is definitely not mine, although Russian
By the way, and who is Georgian shpёyon? !!!

Quote: Nemesis

. So that's enough for you to try on the role of advocate for the devil ...

you are not breakable, the Wehrmacht’s stake was discussed a month ago, and the discussion was tough, find the archive and read what I said

[Nemesis]

And you read about the colonel of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, of Georgian nationality, who was tied up by the FSB of the Russian Federation, in 2008, for espionage in favor of Georgia ... All these housewives who called the Ukrainian embassy and reported there the criminals who were wartime awaits the death penalty and certainly they do not identify with Russia, which means they are not Russian ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

And you read about the colonel of the armed forces of the Russian Federation, of Georgian nationality, who was tied up by the FSB of the Russian Federation, in 2008, for espionage in favor of Georgia ...

once again for those who are in the tank
there was such a general, well, a pure Georgian Kalugin, he has a surname
but there is another General - Timur Avtandilovich Apakidze

[Brushing]

I hope the relatives and friends of the dead in Chechnya know what to do with the enta tablet ....

[Nemesis]

Vasilenko Vladimir,
You do not confuse a scoop with the Russian Federation. The scoop is no longer and the lion's share of all these (Georgians) considers themselves patriots of their independent states, not Russia ... They even living in Russia hang out the flags of their independent states in their cars. These people are unreliable and that they spy on military units in RF, and then they call the Ukrainian Embassy saying that I’m right ...

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

you don’t even have cereal in your head - KISEL
and what’s most interesting is all with a minimum of knowledge

Quote: Nemesis

You do not confuse a scoop with the Russian Federation

yes that's for sure, unfortunately the Russian Federation is still a pale shadow of the Union

[Nemesis]

The Russian Federation, this is the Russian Federation, and your independent states of the former scoop should live at their own expense, and not at the expense of the budget of the Russian Federation ... It’s inconspicuous that you can read at all, and if you can, you haven’t read anything other than all sorts of nonsense, such as works Solzhenitsyn and his kind .... You prefer to notice exclusively what you like and fit into your Wishlist, ignoring everything that doesn't fit into them and regularly try on the role of the devil's advocate, defending the openly criminal tricks of your fellow countrymen in Russia and against Russia ... Yes, calls to the Ukrainian Embassy to inform about the movement of military units in Russia are a crime and they cannot be called Russians, they are patriots of a foreign country who have lost their way in the Russian Federation ... they are sick with Russophobia, which does not belong in the Russian Federation

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

Quote: Nemesis

... It’s imperceptible that you can read at all, and if you can, you haven’t read anything but all sorts of nonsense, such as the works of Solzhenitsyn and others like him ....

unlike you, I can not only scatter ... in different directions, but also stick the same isaich into his bullshit with his nose, with what reason

Quote: Nemesis

..You prefer to notice exclusively what you like and fit into your Wishlist, ignoring everything

But can you specifically with examples ?!

Quote: Nemesis

regularly try on the role of devil's advocate, defending the openly criminal tricks of your fellow countrymen in Russia and against Russia ...

here again, indiscriminate nonsense where and when I defended the Kazakhstanis acting against Russia