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US media: China has tested a rocket with a hypersonic aircraft

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China for the first time conducted tests of a new type of ballistic missile equipped with a hypersonic gliding aircraft, according to The Diplomat publication, citing a source in the US government.


According to the source, two tests of the new DF-17 type rocket passed 1 and 15 in November. He clarified that the tests were completed successfully, and the rocket "reached the goal with an accuracy of several meters."

US media: China has tested a rocket with a hypersonic aircraft


The source of the publication added that the DF-17 was created specifically to deduce a hypersonic gliding aircraft.

According to American intelligence estimates, the DF-17 is a medium-range missile with a range of thousands of kilometers from 1,8 to 2,5. The rocket is capable of carrying nuclear and non-nuclear cargo, as well as a hypersonic gliding aircraft. It can also be equipped with a maneuvering warhead.

In American intelligence it is believed that the DF-17 was developed based on the short-range missile DF-16B. By 2020, the rocket is expected to reach its initial operating power.

As the newspaper writes, in total, during the 2014-2016 period, China has already conducted seven tests of hypersonic gliding aircraft. The development of such devices are also engaged in the United States and Russia, but these countries have not experienced a system for their operational launch.

There was no official confirmation of these tests from the Chinese authorities, reports RIA News
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  1. System
    System 28 December 2017 17: 30
    +6
    Glad for China and sympathize with the USA!
    1. 210ox
      210ox 28 December 2017 17: 37
      +2
      After him we are tormented by swallowing dust .. yes
      1. himRa
        himRa 28 December 2017 17: 42
        +5
        Quote: 210ox
        After him we are tormented by swallowing dust .. yes

        Well ... they came up with gunpowder .... tormented?
        The British with the Japanese will thin out! laughing
        1. 210ox
          210ox 28 December 2017 17: 43
          +2
          No .. Rather, they, the Chinese will thin out ...
          Quote: himRa
          Quote: 210ox
          After him we are tormented by swallowing dust .. yes

          Well ... they came up with gunpowder .... tormented?
          The British with the Japanese will thin out! laughing
          1. electrooleg
            electrooleg 28 December 2017 18: 37
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            No .. Rather, they, the Chinese will thin out ...


            Yes, China will simply break them in half today. And no missile defense will save. Rice will fall asleep to death.
            1. alexmach
              alexmach 28 December 2017 19: 24
              +3
              And no missile defense will save.

              Yeah, a good question - who will not save.
              DF-17 is a medium-range missile with a range of 1,8 thousand to 2,5 thousand kilometers.
          2. Spez
            Spez 29 December 2017 04: 43
            +1
            This option also suits.
        2. Pirogov
          Pirogov 28 December 2017 17: 52
          +4
          Quote: himRa
          Well ... they came up with gunpowder .... tormented?
          The British with the Japanese will thin out!

          A moot point. As if on the site of the Japanese and British islands, there was no new sea. The Chinese are not as offensive as some would like.
          1. himRa
            himRa 28 December 2017 18: 02
            +7
            Quote: Pirogov
            The Chinese are not as offensive as some would like.

            The Chinese are ... the Chinese ... they would run away from the Japanese .. they thinned them well ... according to some reports, some 50 million, and before that the British at the beginning of the century before last!
            They were taught to discipline, white, people ...
            Read the detailed history of China ... if they give out five crossings over the mountains and the steppe where they half rested for FIVE Bumps ...
            They will not be able to become one nation; they do not have a Chinese nation! winked still do not understand each other!
            1. Pirogov
              Pirogov 28 December 2017 18: 09
              0
              Quote: himRa
              The Chinese are ... the Chinese ... they would run away from the Japanese .. they thinned them well ... according to some reports, some 50 million, and before that the British at the beginning of the century before last!
              They were taught to discipline, white, people ...
              Read the detailed history of China ... if they give out five crossings over the mountains and the steppe where they half rested for FIVE Bumps

              I think a lot has changed since then.
              1. himRa
                himRa 28 December 2017 18: 20
                +5
                Quote: Pirogov
                I think a lot has changed since then.

                This is another, myth, nothing has changed here ...
                What are today's people, smarter than their ancestors !!?
                People can’t be changed, by any kind of “globalization,” moreover! Carriers of genes with certain mutations are all the same as a hundred, or a thousand years ago ....
                1. Pirogov
                  Pirogov 28 December 2017 18: 33
                  0
                  Quote: himRa
                  People can’t be changed, by any kind of “globalization,” moreover! Carriers of genes with certain mutations are all the same as a hundred, or a thousand years ago

                  Are you a scientist? And where are the people when three atomic bombs rush from China to Japan and everything and SUSHI will become history.
            2. 210ox
              210ox 28 December 2017 18: 33
              +3
              You are mistaken. They understand each other perfectly .. Mao and Xiaoping made a united nation of them
              Yes, they have problems with the Tibetans and Uighurs, but they have it under control and can be solved. In contrast to our country, where the problem is Caucasians, and not only they are very acute, and what is disgusting is that it is not solved at all.
              Quote: himRa
              Quote: Pirogov
              The Chinese are not as offensive as some would like.

              The Chinese are ... the Chinese ... they would run away from the Japanese .. they thinned them well ... according to some reports, some 50 million, and before that the British at the beginning of the century before last!
              They were taught to discipline, white, people ...
              Read the detailed history of China ... if they give out five crossings over the mountains and the steppe where they half rested for FIVE Bumps ...
              They will not be able to become one nation; they do not have a Chinese nation! winked still do not understand each other!
              1. himRa
                himRa 28 December 2017 18: 47
                +5
                Quote: 210ox
                You are mistaken. They understand each other perfectly .. Mao and Xiaoping made a united nation of them

                Mao, who is he ... the first corruptionist, author of the Cultural Revolution, they still had hunger thanks to him for another 60-70 years! belay
                Dan did not follow the path of mao because he studied in the west ...
                Have you been to China? Have you traveled around the country?
                Explain the fact that they gesticulate a lot ...?
                About communism and statehood, this is not for long, and there is no communism where exploitation by man, man and private ownership of the means of production and land are permitted ...
            3. ZVO
              ZVO 28 December 2017 18: 34
              +1
              Quote: himRa

              They will not be able to become one nation; they do not have a Chinese nation! winked still do not understand each other!


              Communism is actually a great power ...
              Much can do such that no futurologist can imagine ...
              The history of 20-21 centuries is an example of this.

              The thing is the vector that communism will choose.
              1. Lock36
                Lock36 28 December 2017 18: 57
                +3
                Quote: ZVO
                Communism is actually a great power ...

                Communism and China are not mated in one sentence.
            4. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 28 December 2017 18: 36
              +2
              Quote: himRa
              They will not be able to become one nation; they do not have a Chinese nation! still do not understand each other!

              Well, everyone from the USSR in the West is also called Russian (gee, I imagine how the Baltic states with the Georgians wassat . Be patient, guys, there was nothing to settle on the border with Russia). The Chinese have been testing the last thing all the time. Then they have a moon rabbit, damn it, runs the size of "Well, wait a minute!" if they gave us that hare, he would have rolled on the Lunokhod back in the 70s, then they’re crap with the MHD generator underwater ... For me, this is the only thing that the Chinese, who do not understand each other, are able to do well, so these, stick-trees, are xeros like rabbits. I'll go, damn it, I'll buy a Chinese tree. And a Chinese garland. Enough for 2 weeks.
              1. NOMADE
                NOMADE 28 December 2017 18: 44
                +2
                Yeah, and you printed it from a computer or smartphone made in China)
                1. iliitchitch
                  iliitchitch 28 December 2017 19: 17
                  +2
                  Quote: NOMADE
                  Yeah, and you printed it from a computer or smartphone made in China)

                  Exactly, a colleague. 2 times already repaired. But they kicked in qualitatively and very quickly, but everything is discussed with us about demography ...
              2. Chertt
                Chertt 28 December 2017 19: 02
                +2
                Quote: iliitch
                For me, it’s the only thing that the Chinese, who do not understand each other, are able to do well, are Christmas trees, sticks, they are fussing like rabbits

                Yeah, the white gentlemen left the yellow rabbits, for fifty years without a master, they will take the whole planet for consumer goods, make worthless weapons in millions, and without understanding anything, they will kill everyone. It's time for the Japanese back to the role of the Chinese gentleman to return
                1. iliitchitch
                  iliitchitch 28 December 2017 19: 19
                  +1
                  Quote: Chertt
                  It's time for the Japanese back to the role of the Chinese gentleman to return

                  Joke, please? These were still not enough. Their samurai path is over. Fuck them, not the Kuril Islands.
                  1. Chertt
                    Chertt 28 December 2017 19: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: iliitch
                    Fuck them, not the Kuril Islands.

                    What other Kuril Islands, forget about the Kuril Islands. I say that the Japanese have a good approach to the Chinese, and there is experience.
                    Quote: iliitch
                    They have a samurai's path over

                    Genetics and millennia, traditions so simply can’t be “finished”
                    1. iliitchitch
                      iliitchitch 29 December 2017 01: 45
                      +1
                      Quote: Chertt
                      Genetics and millennia, traditions so simply can’t be “finished”

                      Ah, okay, that, by golly, a colleague. Hellas of the times of decline, Byzantium of the times of the fall of Constantinople ... But they themselves all fixed it.
                      And about the Chinese Nippon ... Here, humor is not a joke. Chinese with a nippon on the gangplanks of the members are always hospitable hosts bred away to avoid. To the Nippons, the Chinese have Questions. Very serious.
      2. Chertt
        Chertt 28 December 2017 18: 05
        +2
        Quote: 210ox
        After him we are tormented by swallowing dust


        The liberals worship the United States, the strange Patriots worship China. According to the article, I realized that the striped FakeNews wrote something about the Chinese trials. No facts or links. And we are already ready to "swallow" ???
        1. 210ox
          210ox 28 December 2017 18: 11
          +3
          The patriots adore their homeland. I dare say. And that we often praise the Chinese, they show us an example of how not to ruin the country and raise production and living standards.
          Quote: Chertt
          Quote: 210ox
          After him we are tormented by swallowing dust


          The liberals worship the United States, the strange Patriots worship China. According to the article, I realized that the striped FakeNews wrote something about the Chinese trials. No facts or links. And we are already ready to "swallow" ???
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 28 December 2017 19: 28
            +1
            Quote: 210ox
            The patriots adore their homeland. I dare say. And that we often praise the Chinese, they show us an example of how not to ruin the country and raise production and living standards.

            I agree "from and to." It's just that the Chinese were lucky that they did not have a spotted ram, etsih him with nails.
        2. Sergey39
          Sergey39 28 December 2017 18: 34
          +1
          Japanese Journalists Outperformed British Scientists
        3. Lock36
          Lock36 28 December 2017 18: 58
          +2
          Quote: Chertt
          The liberals worship the United States, the strange Patriots worship China.

          Divorced among us lovers of licking the ass of the Great Yellow Monkey.
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 29 December 2017 01: 56
            0
            Quote: Lock36
            Divorced among us lovers of licking the ass of the Great Yellow Monkey.

            It's a pity, here the minuses were canceled, the drums from under the baseboards climbed. Suckers 36th, God forgive me.
            1. Lock36
              Lock36 3 January 2018 12: 18
              +1
              Fool, object what is? Have you ever been to China? In the factories? In cities? Villages?
              Or is it all about newspaper articles?
              Lick, do not be distracted, fool.
      3. xetai9977
        xetai9977 28 December 2017 18: 17
        +2
        "Glad for China and sympathize with the United States!"
        You are sure. What is China going to fight with the USA? America is far away, and besides, the United States is by no means a weak country, to put it mildly, it is possible not to collect bones when answering. Nearby are sparsely populated countries with minerals. laughing
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 29 December 2017 07: 36
          0
          Quote: xetai9977
          Nearby are sparsely populated countries with minerals.

          Actually, what do you care about minerals not yours? How interesting is to everyone who is not at work. We ourselves will somehow figure it out.
    2. Angel_and_Demon
      Angel_and_Demon 28 December 2017 17: 40
      +9
      Quote: Sistema
      Glad for China and sympathize with the USA!

      and happy for the American generals - what a field for beating good
    3. Blombirus
      Blombirus 28 December 2017 18: 03
      +3
      Our neighbor is awesome! Eye yes eye needed! Dragon however.
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 28 December 2017 18: 09
        +1
        Quote: BlombiRus
        Our neighbor is awesome! Eye yes eye needed! Dragon however.

        This dragon, only lazy in the "lower torso" did not kick
        1. Lock36
          Lock36 28 December 2017 18: 59
          +3
          good no one likes history.
  2. Herculesic
    Herculesic 28 December 2017 17: 35
    +7
    I can not imagine the planning of the device in hypersound recourse ! In my opinion, these are actually incompatible concepts! Is it that the device should plan in space, and then re-accelerate to hypersonic speed when entering dense layers of the atmosphere ???
    1. himRa
      himRa 28 December 2017 17: 38
      +5
      Hi .... as always, the journalists laughing
      Essi, I understand correctly that a solid-propellant ballistic missile was issued as a carrier, ... well, if you throw it from space ... it will accelerate! The warhead to hyper speed and, accordingly, plan
      1. Blombirus
        Blombirus 28 December 2017 18: 09
        +3
        Quote: himRa
        Hi .... as always, the journalists laughing
        Essi, I understand correctly that a solid-propellant ballistic missile was issued as a carrier, ... well, if you throw it from space ... it will accelerate! The warhead to hyper speed and, accordingly, plan

        A hyper sound device flies above airplanes and below satellites. In a rarefied atmosphere. This device starts vertically on the ROCKET! Having reached this altitude niche and the desired speed, it turns on its own engine, which starts only when the speed is already gained. From scratch it does not work! Therefore, the device needs an acceleration unit. Rocket or plane.
      2. Herculesic
        Herculesic 28 December 2017 18: 38
        +2
        Hi Rahimam site! good drinks hi Something the Chinese are wise, but what they themselves do not know! sad
    2. 210ox
      210ox 28 December 2017 17: 45
      +1
      Here, most likely, illiterate journalists "planned"
      Quote: Herkulesich
      I can not imagine the planning of the device in hypersound recourse ! In my opinion, these are actually incompatible concepts! Is it that the device should plan in space, and then re-accelerate to hypersonic speed when entering dense layers of the atmosphere ???
    3. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 28 December 2017 17: 45
      +3
      "and then re-accelerate to hypersonic speed when entering the dense layers of the atmosphere ???" //

      On the contrary. In the stratosphere, at an altitude of 50-60 km, it flies
      with hypersonic speed, plans gradually, while entering dense layers
      atmosphere is braked to overtones (otherwise it will burn out).
      1. Town Hall
        Town Hall 28 December 2017 17: 50
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        "and then re-accelerate to hypersonic speed when entering the dense layers of the atmosphere ???" //

        On the contrary. In the stratosphere, at an altitude of 50-60 km, it flies
        with hypersonic speed, plans gradually, while entering dense layers
        atmosphere is braked to overtones (otherwise it will burn out).



        Do you think that in the stratosphere at an altitude of 50-60 km there is, simply put, enough air and enough density to make something “winged” fly ?.

        Or is it possible only ballistic trajectories?
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 28 December 2017 21: 35
          0
          To fly is not enough air, but to plan is enough.
          1. Town Hall
            Town Hall 28 December 2017 23: 47
            +1
            Due to what can a missile plan for 50-60 km at hypersonic speed?. And with the help of what technologies currently being implemented it can transfer from a state of a ballistic hypersonic blank to a guided cruise missile.


            Remember what a non-trivial task at the moment is even a simple “shot” of UR from an airplane using ordinary supersonic sound at least 1,5 MAX.
  3. jolly deckhand
    jolly deckhand 28 December 2017 17: 36
    +4
    Well, yes, the United States was frightened right ... People from the military-industrial complex will start demanding money, and they put Trump to the kingdom ...
  4. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 28 December 2017 17: 41
    +3
    And the notorious Zircon - something like that.
    A mixture of BR with planning CD.
    The BR takes off, the KR separates.
    1. System
      System 28 December 2017 17: 44
      +3
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And the notorious Zircon - something like that.
      A mixture of BR with planning CD.
      The BR takes off, the KR separates.

      Well, there’s nothing to argue, all the best in Israel is concentrated .. laughing
      1. Dormidont
        Dormidont 28 December 2017 17: 48
        0
        the Chinese will throw them samples
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 28 December 2017 17: 49
      +8
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And the notorious Zircon - something like that.

      No ... Zircon does not need a hyper-speed carrier ... it is itself a hyper-speed RCC. There is an analogy with the Sarmatian and the U-71. Quite different gadgets and conversation.
      1. ventel
        ventel 28 December 2017 19: 43
        0
        You know, Zircon may also come out that the Germans with Henkel100 also had a papillac at the beginning of the 40s the fastest and most raspiarin that even Tevosyan brought several pieces to the USSR. As a result, Laptezhnik and Messer went through the whole war, but in the reports of Soviet pilots they shot down not hundreds of XE100s right up to 44 years.
    3. Dead duck
      Dead duck 28 December 2017 18: 42
      +8
      Quote: voyaka uh
      And the notorious Zircon - something like that.
      A mixture of BR with planning CD.
      The BR takes off, the KR separates.

      Tales are all. We don’t have anything.
      They all stole and drank. And dibs drank.
      Zhurnalidze specifically report on achievements that the enemies would fear.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 28 December 2017 21: 37
        +1
        The Chinese have overtaken - yes. But Russia also has a similar development.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 28 December 2017 22: 26
        +3
        Quote: Deadush
        We don’t have anything.
        They all stole and drank. And dibs drank.

        Ага.
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 29 December 2017 20: 48
          +4
          Yes, even worse ...
          it’s better for everyone to massively shoot themselves ... in Red Square. yes
          1. Boa kaa
            Boa kaa 29 December 2017 20: 55
            +1
            Quote: Deadush
            Yes, even worse ...
            it’s better for everyone to massively shoot themselves ... in Red Square.

            Yes, you, my friend, is some kind of suicide! laughing
            Maybe someone still leave alive for reproduction, at least ??? bully
            1. Dead duck
              Dead duck 29 December 2017 21: 02
              +4
              Not ... everything is perishable, but a life of suffering and pain.
              Civilization must start from scratch. To erase the centuries-old raid of vanity and greatness. yes
              1. Boa kaa
                Boa kaa 29 December 2017 21: 04
                +1
                Quote: Deadush
                Civilization must start from scratch.

                Pancake! Yes, you are also a "nullifier"! Well --- a complete clinic!
                Urgently to the doctor !!!
                1. Dead duck
                  Dead duck 29 December 2017 21: 16
                  +4
                  I myself will cure anyone ...
                  "We treat an infection ... One bullet - one patient"
                  1. Boa kaa
                    Boa kaa 29 December 2017 21: 34
                    +1
                    Quote: Deadush
                    I myself will cure anyone ... One bullet - one sick
                    Really you "WOLF" - the orderly of the woods !?
                    1. Dead duck
                      Dead duck 30 December 2017 12: 18
                      +4
                      just a nurse
  5. NEXUS
    NEXUS 28 December 2017 17: 44
    +5
    It looks like the zhurnalyugi are completely lying. They are talking about the Chinese analogue of the Yu-71, which the Chinese do not have and will not appear in the near future. We have been testing the object 4202 for how many years (taking into account the Soviet developments) and we still do not have a serial model. Sarmat will be adopted not earlier than 20 years.
  6. TTX
    TTX 28 December 2017 17: 48
    +2
    Hypersonic gliding !? Brain explosion. wassat I will add an underwater-atmospheric airless apparatus.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 28 December 2017 17: 50
      +1
      All warheads are hypersonic.
      1. family tree
        family tree 28 December 2017 18: 27
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        All warheads are hypersonic.

        Not at all. It looks like RSDM with warhead shooting with an additional engine, which goes on hyper.
        Not, it’s normal, if it accelerates several warheads with accelerators, but by one. Otherwise, what's the point?
        It’s not easier to stick directly to the unit, stick starting and marching. Only this is just hypersonic what
        Even Feng Shui again, the Chinese soldier
        Aglitsky Uchov brains for gyrus braid what , not?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 December 2017 00: 08
          0
          In the United States, another 2010 such as HTV 2 was called - overclocked over the "return speed"
          28 Machs one of the likely contenders for the role of a quick global strike.
    2. viktorch
      viktorch 29 December 2017 13: 28
      0
      space-rocket falling rocket
  7. Hurricane70
    Hurricane70 28 December 2017 18: 03
    0
    EVERYTHING GOES ACCORDING TO PLAN!
    1. den3080
      den3080 28 December 2017 23: 21
      +1
      that is why the "planning" hypersonic aircraft is written wink
      Yes, and Chinese ...
  8. family tree
    family tree 28 December 2017 18: 04
    +2
    The rocket itself, like a booster block what
    And the entot apparatus itself, how much heat and light will it bring to the consumer, well, in kilotons, in TNT? And what about the maneuver?
  9. flicker
    flicker 28 December 2017 18: 11
    +3
    It would be necessary to test at the Nevada training ground ... request
  10. Egorovich
    Egorovich 28 December 2017 18: 20
    +3
    While this is one empty chatter. There are no facts, only air.
  11. Going
    Going 28 December 2017 18: 47
    +5
    China for the first time conducted tests of a new type of ballistic missile equipped with a hypersonic gliding aircraft, according to The Diplomat publication, citing a source in the US government.


    This is the USA preparing the ground for another round of hysteria.
  12. Old26
    Old26 28 December 2017 20: 25
    +3
    Translation of course killer:
    American intelligence believes that the DF-17 was developed on the basis of the short-range missile DF-16B. It is expected that by 2020 the rocket will go on original operating power.

    At original operating power? Or maybe still on operational readiness?

    As the newspaper writes, in total, during the 2014-2016 period, China has already conducted seven tests of hypersonic gliding aircraft. The development of such devices are also engaged in the United States and Russia, but these countries have not experienced a system for their operational launch.

    "Interesting girls are dancing" ....
    A carrier 15J71 - this is not a means of their operational launch, of the same product 4202?

    Quote: himRa
    Hi .... as always, the journalists laughing
    Essi, I understand correctly that a solid-propellant ballistic missile was issued as a carrier, ... well, if you throw it from space ... it will accelerate! The warhead to hyper speed and, accordingly, plan

    And what, a solid rocket cannot be a carrier? Religion forbids? The speed of the medium-range missile at the end of the ATF is approximately 4,5-5,5 km / s. That is, in terms of Mach number of the order of 15-18? Is this not hypersound? This product will bring the BRDS to a height of about 60-70 km - please plan with hypersonic speed

    Quote: Town Hall
    Do you think that in the stratosphere at an altitude of 50-60 km there is, simply put, enough air and enough density to make something “winged” fly ?.

    Or is it possible only ballistic trajectories?

    All flight calculations of hypersonic aircraft are built at altitudes from 40 to 60 km. Aerodynamic planes there are not always needed. GZLA itself can be built according to the scheme with a bearing body. And the name of this device - a cruise missile - is a tribute to the structural design of the device. He is not a ballistic missile, but a rocket for horizontal flight in the atmosphere - means a cruise missile

    Quote: voyaka uh
    And the notorious Zircon - something like that.
    A mixture of BR with planning CD.
    The BR takes off, the KR separates.

    Purely constructive - quite possible. And no matter what they call the accelerator - a rocket or a launch accelerator. It's not about the name.

    Quote: NEXUS
    No ... Zircon does not need a hyper-speed carrier ... it is itself a hyper-speed RCC. There is an analogy with the Sarmatian and the U-71. Quite different gadgets and conversation.

    In order for the Zircon to start working, the hypersonic ramjet engine needs acceleration. Just like that, it will not take off from scratch. He needs a starting accelerator. Maybe because of this accelerator, because of its dimensions, the range of the Zircon is so insignificant. In the launcher, it is necessary to place not only the rocket itself, but also the means of its dispersal.
    He doesn’t roll analogies with Sarmat, he still does not fly. But the analogy with 15Y71 and 4202 - yes, this is more or less real. Although not 100%. We do not know the design of the Chinese apparatus. Whether it is just a hypersonic unit with the ability to maneuver or the payload of the DF-17 rocket is a full-fledged RC. 4202 also refers to GZLA rather than a hypersonic missile

    Quote: perepilka
    Not at all. It looks like RSDM with warhead shooting with an additional engine, which goes on hyper.
    Not, it’s normal, if it accelerates several warheads with accelerators, but by one. Otherwise, what's the point?
    It’s not easier to stick directly to the unit, stick starting and marching. Only this is just hypersonic

    What is the acceleration of the ballistic missile system, when and without acceleration at the end of the ATF, warheads have a speed of 4,5 to 5,5 km / s, that is 15-18М. Hypersound begins with 5M
    1. family tree
      family tree 28 December 2017 20: 58
      +3
      Quote: Old26
      when and without acceleration at the end of the ATF, warheads have a speed of 4,5 to 5,5 km / s, i.e. 15-18 M. Hypersound starts at 5M

      Corner, well, linear, probably, so as not to crash ballistic what
      The axes are subsonic, quite at the end the head with a village amateur orchestra, some in the forest, some for firewood, but everyone came to the address belay Theme?
    2. himRa
      himRa 28 December 2017 23: 58
      +2
      Quote: Old26
      And what, a solid rocket cannot be a carrier? Religion forbids?

      hi
      + For your reasoning, but my assumptions were based on information about the town for Ukrainians from Yuzhmash and fairly aged specialists ... reminds me of the situation with German specialists in FAA
      The Chinese do not need an expensive means of combating the AUG staff; their AUGs will not be comparable soon
      two aircraft carriers do not count ..
      Bottom line: the Americans sniffed something, but really the Chinese have nothing or work is being done in a different direction ...
      And it’s so tempting! Two non-fermented GPZ missiles with nuclear warheads and aug tanks,
    3. Town Hall
      Town Hall 29 December 2017 00: 10
      0
      Quote: Old26
      All flight calculations of hypersonic aircraft are built at altitudes from 40 to 60 km. Aerodynamic planes there are not always needed.




      They may not always be needed there ... but the problem is that the ultimate goal of these hypothetical devices is not at these altitudes, but at sea level or so. And they still maneuver ... the problem is how to get down to them and how to go controlled flight mode at such speeds
  13. Lesorub
    Lesorub 28 December 2017 21: 46
    +1
    At such speeds - it will be harder for aircraft-carrying groups)))
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 29 December 2017 00: 10
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      They have new SM 3 - they will shoot.
      1. himRa
        himRa 29 December 2017 00: 58
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        Quote: Vadim237
        They have new SM 3 - they will shoot.

        What the hell they have, jeans for example!
        a hypersonic rocket goes in a cloud of plasma and does not shine on radars, theirs and it’s washed away, they can’t find wassat
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 29 December 2017 12: 27
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          For that, on the cameras of the IKI of the PRO satellites, it will glow well.
        2. viktorch
          viktorch 29 December 2017 13: 30
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          it’s time for exciting stories
          more details please about stealth plasma.
  14. Old26
    Old26 29 December 2017 10: 28
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    Quote: himRa
    Quote: Vadim237
    They have new SM 3 - they will shoot.

    What the hell they have, jeans for example!
    a hypersonic rocket goes in a cloud of plasma and does not shine on radars, theirs and it’s washed away, they can’t find wassat

    Plasma cloud does not shine on radars ??? This is something new. I wonder how, then, radars lead almost to the ground the same warheads of ballistic missiles, descent vehicles of spacecraft? they probably lie that they can follow, since the plasma cloud on the radar "does not shine"
    1. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 29 December 2017 13: 53
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      Vladimir, this "new", as they say, a hundred years on Saturday. Such work has been and is ongoing. By the way, in VO 28.09.2015. was published an article by Oleg Kaptsov "Plasma stealth - our answer to American invisibles." The article, in particular, discussed the interview, which at one time on this topic was given by Anatoly Sazonovich Koroteev, academician, doctor, head of the Center named after Keldysh (I worked there when the institute was called NIITP). Apparently believed that journalists really showed interest in this topic. However, the author of the article simply scoffed at the material, since he could not realize what was told to him with his brain apparatus. All that he did not understand was declared in the article by lies and fraud. The journalist seems to know better. In his article, they say, the owner himself.
      If interested, then at least on the Internet dig this topic. I repeat once again - work has been and is ongoing, both in our country and in the states.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 December 2017 13: 07
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        A falling meteorite was seen - and so, a hypersonic device in a plasma cloud will also glow and detecting such rockets and devices will be easier than ever, using IR cameras and conventional optical systems.
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 30 December 2017 13: 19
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          Vadim, I respect your opinion. But this forum is not a specialized NTS where people have access. Such thoughts were expressed. But believe me, the detection range of optics and infrared - can not be compared with the reflected electromagnetic. For this discussion I propose to stop. All open information is on the Internet.
  15. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 29 December 2017 11: 59
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    Strange, the Chinese are quietly making medium-range missiles, but we cannot be negotiated. Something is wrong here!