Japan may purchase F-35B for its helicopter carriers

The Japanese Defense Ministry is studying the issue of purchasing the latest American F-35B combat aircraft with the possibility of a short take-off and vertical landing to equip its helicopter carriers, reports TASS message from Kyodo agency.

Buying an F-35B will actually enable Japan to use its helicopter carriers as light aircraft carriers. Currently, the fleet has two such ships of the Izumo class with a length of 248 m. It is planned to commission two more ships.

At the same time, the Japanese government has already decided to purchase for its Air Force more than 40 multi-purpose and low-profile F-35А aircraft with the usual take-off and landing system.

“F-35B modification machines can be included in this batch or purchased separately. In addition to being used on light aircraft carriers, combat aircraft of this type with short take-off acceleration and vertical landing are supposed to be used for the defense of remote islands where there are no airfields with long runways, ”the material says.

Thus, “the actual acquisition of aircraft carriers will be a new major step in moving away from the policy of abandoning offensive weapons, which Tokyo adhered to the entire period after the Second World War,” the agency notes.

In addition, the government of Shinzo Abe intends to purchase cruise missiles with a range of up to 900 km, "potentially capable of striking attacks on the territory of neighboring countries," adds the publication.

Comments

[voyaka uh]

Reasonable. The F-35B does not need a springboard or a catapult.
Right across the board - and up.

[Herculesic]

For them, to begin with, would they test whether the planes would be heavy for helicopter carriers? And then the heels of the planes in reality, but with a full combat load, fully loaded at takeoff, will begin to rock the deck, and significantly increase the draft. .. In theory, one thing, but what comes of it in reality is another! And do not believe it, but we only benefit from the Japanese having these aircraft — we will get their exact characteristics, including the EPR, which, as someone claims, is at the level of statistical error.

[voyaka uh]

"They would have to test them first, whether the planes would be heavy for helicopter carriers" ///

There, the American marines have been using them for two years on their helicopter carriers.
Take off with full load "overboard" with a short take-off.
Here is a fully vertical take-off (no take-off) is possible only in lightweight
option with subsequent refueling in the air.

[Alex777]

These helicopter carriers were originally designed for the F-35 - do not hesitate. True, the Japs said no, we will never place these planes there, but it turns out.

[avt]

Quote: voyaka uh

Right across the board - and up.

Azochenway! Over the side, it's right at the bottom.

Quote: voyaka uh

. The F-35B does not need a springboard or a catapult.

According

Quote: voyaka uh

catapult.

I won’t say anything, but the Angles needed a catapult for Harrier on their aircraft carrier ..... they’re probably just stupid. Even now with ,, Lisa No. 1 "and ,, Prynts off the same Velesky" ... under ... do not believe it - the same Fu-35V ... Well, stupid-s-s-s-s!

[dSK]

Quote: avt

Azochenway!

The states allowed Japan to create a full-fledged army from the "self-defense forces" by paying the US military industry. Another "big deal" of a business president is to put "other people's hands" in "Korean war 2.0". It remains only to falsify the entry of the DPRK ICBMs in Tokyo.

[voyaka uh]

for auto:
Sorry, your posts are very difficult to read and understand.
Welter. You quote yourself, then the opponent. And incomprehensible slang.
So I can no longer respond to them.

[avt]

Quote: voyaka uh

So I can no longer respond to them.

Well, died, so died " But you can continue to hope that

Quote: voyaka uh

Welter. You quote yourself, then the opponent. And incomprehensible slang.

It will continue until I get tired, or the rules of the site are not changed again, well, they will equate my comments with obscenities, for example, that's all. For sim cheat.

[svp67]

Quote: voyaka uh

Right across the board - and up.

We would be more satisfied with their flight to the bottom ...

[Bourbon]

Quote: voyaka uh

Right across the board - and up.

chassis directly to the bottom of the sea .....

[Theodore]

Money down the drain!

[I doubt it]

Quote: Theodore

Money down the drain!

Well yes. When they themselves have naked jo_pa, they can only cheer themselves up and their comrades: we are not afraid of AUGs, we don’t need UDCs, they don’t fly F-35s, and Yak-141s are in the trash.
And also: “The Supreme knows best ...”, “.. not everyone says to us ...”, “... the reserve has probably already been created ...”, and “... they forgot to notify you ...”, “ ... China is against the Americans ... "," .. by 2035 we will have ... "," ... in our design bureau drawing of a new plane has begun "...
More, more Komsomol enthusiasm, he is in this situation the only cure. Perhaps carry!

[Theodore]

For the price that they cost!? Cheaper on the MiG-21 to fight!

[rotmistr60]

Japan is studying the issue

And these Americans managed to breed in full. The American military-industrial complex applauds the Japanese prime minister.

[aszzz888]

... because we are strengthening in Kamchatka ...

[True]

Expected. I'm not surprised.

[rumpeljschtizhen]

Well this is not surprising ... everyone understood that their helicopter carriers, or whatever they call them correctly, "Helicopter carrier type DDH-183 IZUMO 22DDH (Japan)" turn into aviation carriers with an easy purchase movement

[burigaz2010]

Quote: rumpeljschtizhen

Well this is not surprising ... everyone understood that their helicopter carriers, or whatever they call them correctly, "Helicopter carrier type DDH-183 IZUMO 22DDH (Japan)" turn into aviation carriers with an easy purchase movement

Well, actually, they positioned them as destroyers! Although everyone understood that they were being built for a penguin!

[Mihanishche]

So the plane is unfinished. Everywhere in the Russian press they write that unfinished. And we have all completed. Am I confused? Why don't rich countries buy our completed planes? A buy unfinished ??? World conspiracy against us! Russophobia!

[Herculesic]

Politics sir above common sense! Therefore, sanctions are introduced against us, thank God!

[Rurikovich]

I have long said that the Japanese "destroyers-helicopter carriers" are actually full-fledged light aircraft carriers and they were built with the ability to receive aircraft GDP! Now, such news of the purchase of under-aircraft of the 5th generation type is only confirmation of the real purpose of Izumo and Kaga

[Spec]

Quote: voyaka uh

Right across the board - and up.

If the catapult works.

[voyaka uh]

Without a catapult. And without a springboard. From a perfectly straight deck across the board - and up.
Look at U-Tube - there is a lot of video material.

[Spec]

I'm not talking about the start method, but about the possible consequences for the pilot. On the same tube there is a video, both with our 38th and with the "boars"

[voyaka uh]

A “blow” to the pilot’s neck and spine gives precisely the catapult.
And aerofinisher landing.
In this sense, the F-35B is much more “humane” than conventional aircraft carrier naval aircraft
like F-18 or F-35S

[Spec]

I guess I didn’t put it clearly, referring to the ejected pilot seat. Apparently the joke was not funny ...
And I completely agree with your arguments about humanity.

[Spec]

Returning to the topic of our last conversation ... The Japanese have clearly confirmed the opinion expressed on the prospects of using VTOL aircraft both at sea and on land.

[voyaka uh]

I read that too.
I am not saying that the F-35B is the limit in the development of VTOL aircraft.
He is rather the first swallow. A big improvement over
with the first serial VTOL aircraft - Harrier. And with the "dad" - Yak.
The main achievement of the F-35B is the full automation of vertical take-off and landing.
And flight efficiency, fuel consumption, etc. - designers still have a lot of work
in developing future models.

[svp67]

The purchase of the F-35B will actually enable Japan to use its helicopter carriers as light aircraft carriers

Here are the advantages of new technologies ... We can only envy ....

[Spec]

“The actual receipt of aircraft carriers will be a new major step in moving away from the policy of abandoning offensive weapons, which Tokyo adhered to all the time after the Second World War”

Why suddenly such categorical conclusions? These aircraft carriers can hardly be called offensive, because sharpened mainly to counter submarines. Even if we do not consider the thesis “the best defense is an attack”, then this opinion of the TASS journalist is a clear curtsy towards the forces interested in building tension in relations with the Japanese.

[ventel]

In general, the Japanese built ships before the 2nd World War, taking into account the strengthening of armaments, the Mogami cruisers and the Choida airborne carriers. The first from light cruisers turned into heavy ones and the second into small aircraft carriers.

[tagil]

The fact is that Japan, with the permission of the pipedostan, put its "device" on the result of 2MB and began to revive its army and navy. Japan didn’t have any resources, and even if she bucked, the crap easily put these samurai in their place. But having full-blooded armed forces and modern weapons (the population of Japan is larger than the Russian Federation) with the permission of the "exceptional", or with their "fas" command, they can get these modern colonies for pumping out resources, plus they can control some trade routes, and most importantly if necessary, lock up our Pacific Fleet and bases from breaking into the ocean. Well, China is certainly not in last place here. But these followers of Bushido are vindictive and we are still the main adversary for them. Well, having a full-blooded armed forces and "colonies" you can try to free yourself from the care of mattresses.

[Spec]

The population of Japan is still smaller. They are technically capable of locking our Pacific Fleet right now, even without buying an F-35. To revive the army and navy in the format of the Kwantung army they now do not make sense. Economically and politically. The Japanese will be allowed to colonize anything at best on the Moon ... Now it’s quite enough for them to indicate their firm positions in the region and be able to withstand the first blow, be it Kim or Jinping.

[prorab_ak]

Plus, first of all, they insure against China, because both countries fiercely remember each other the sins of WWII (especially the Chinese, let’s free would directly break the samurai), this time. Japan is not allowed to openly arm themselves openly, the UN will sue for violation of the convention and other things .

Japan has no resources, and no

here it is .... "strongly" said, about a country with one of the most powerful economies stably, and Japanese banks always had money up to x ...., in vain do they lend to other banks, including American ones

[ventel]

Half a year ago, I wrote that the United States has a political maneuver in the Far East, but China and Russia, alas, do not, but the patriots were already in ecstasy holding Kim. And now Washington’s policy is looming without spending huge amounts of money to fend off the threat to the Asia-Pacific region from China. But the paradox is that neither Beijing nor Moscow showed their nearsightedness in politics towards the DPRK. But before the North Korean crisis, an arms race was not observed in the Asia-Pacific region.

[Sands Careers General]

History teaches nothing to the Japs. In case of escalation of the conflict, a couple of “Caliber” in densely populated or industrial areas will be enough to cool the ardor.
And they understand that. So it is unlikely to turn up.

And yes, the population of Japan is smaller than the Russian Federation.

[dSK]

The topic of the DPRK ICBMs is muffled until the end of the Olympic Games, they will earn money from tourists, they will earn money from the missile defense supplies of Japan and South Korea.

[Romario_Argo]

The Japanese Navy is already very dangerous: 4 Helicopter carrier, 24 Destroyer, 20 DEPL
Russian Navy Pacific Fleet even in defense will have "not sweet"

[ZVO]

Quote: Romario_Argo

The Japanese Navy is already very dangerous: 4 Helicopter carrier, 24 Destroyer, 20 DEPL
Russian Navy Pacific Fleet even in defense will have "not sweet"

Strange, you are destroying a dozen two Berks with one Petya ...
with their mathematical calculations ...

and that one suddenly started to "turn on the back" ...

I want to explain ...

[KaPToC]

Quote: ZVO

Strange, you are destroying a dozen two Berks with one Petya ...

Well, Peter’s type in the Northern Fleet, so not two dozen but one and a half dozen Berkov - with one “Varangian” - and then, like in a song, the enemy does not give up ....!

[KaPToC]

Quote: Romario_Argo

Russian Navy Pacific Fleet even in defense will have "not sweet"

Well, if you are going to fight with all the Japanese Navy in one Pacific Fleet, you will have to

Quote: Romario_Argo

"not sweet"