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X-2 fighter: how the Japanese overtook Americans and Russians

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By the time the 2010s began, the Japanese Air Force began to feel the need to modernize an already outdated fighter fleet. Being armed with American F-15 and F-16, the Japanese expressed a desire to acquire modern "invisible" F-22. However, the US Congress imposed a ban on the export of these aircraft, including the closest allies.


The F-5 35 generation fighter-bomber proposed by American developers did not meet the needs of the Japanese Air Force. They needed a maneuverable fighter to gain air superiority, not a cumbersome “cow.”

In this regard, the Japanese aircraft manufacturing corporations decided to create their own national generation 5-6 aircraft. And in April 2016, the first prototype called X-2 rises into the air. On this experimental aircraft it is planned to work out all the key technologies that will later be implemented in the projected X-3 fighter.

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  1. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 23 December 2017 18: 43
    10
    What’s the big deal? "The engine is the most powerful, given the mass of the aircraft."
    In Russian - thrust-weight ratio or specific power (I know? I turn the street into a red light, but such nonsense ...)
    Wrote - well done! Let the flyers read so that there is no shame and pain, not only to you but also to us, for whom you write.
    Correctly noted: invisible in a wider spectrum.
  2. NEXUS
    NEXUS 23 December 2017 18: 51
    19
    And in April 2016, the first prototype called the X-2 takes off. On this experimental aircraft it is planned to work out all the key technologies that will be further implemented in the designed X-3 fighter.

    And what did the Japanese overtake there? X-2 is only in the prototype in a single copy and that’s all. And statements and ambition, as if the Death Star had already been invented.
    1. dog breeder
      dog breeder 23 December 2017 19: 07
      +4
      Each mosquito in its swamp fighter. While, at least in the training battle, they will not try each other, it is only possible to produce passes in the air with your hands!
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 23 December 2017 19: 13
        11
        Quote: dog breeder
        While, at least in the training battle, they will not try each other, it is only possible to produce passes in the air with your hands!

        X-2 is only a corps ... neither weapons nor avionics are complete there. How long will it be tested? 10 years ... then, a series, .. and not the fact that a competitive fighter will turn out. And when will the X-3 appear? In 20-30 years ... count. Already, the same SU-57 with product 30 is not a fighter of the 5th generation, but higher, since it surpasses the lizard in almost everything. And at the exit we get a transitional car to the 6th generation, in 15 years, the 57th will not be much inferior to the 6th generation fighter, taking into account the updating of the arsenal, radar (ROFAR), etc. ... and by that time the Japanese will not tell ?
        1. dog breeder
          dog breeder 23 December 2017 19: 28
          +4
          Andrey, good evening. It is unlikely that I will answer your questions to the Japanese fighter, and I have nothing to do with Japan. And about ours, I would like to hope that our designers laid the possibility of deep modernization in this machine.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 23 December 2017 19: 33
            +8
            Quote: dog breeder
            that our designers laid the possibility of deep modernization in this machine.

            Without this, nowhere ... SU-57 is created for 50 years at least. This was repeatedly said in Sukhoi Design Bureau. So consider it. But while the SU-57 is "raw" ... the arsenal has not been finalized, the product 30 is only for flight tests ... here the info about ROFAR skips by 19-20 ... in general, we'll see. So far, for the next 10 years, the main MFI will become SU-35 and this is reality.
            1. dog breeder
              dog breeder 23 December 2017 19: 39
              +4
              The main hope is for our pilots, their experience, their extraordinary thinking. When he served, our castle regiment on the flight side did this, the Finns looked pale.
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 23 December 2017 19: 47
                +9
                Quote: dog breeder
                The main hope is for our pilots, their experience, their extraordinary thinking. When he served, our castle regiment on the flight side did this, the Finns looked pale.

                I will tell you so, our combat pilots are good professionals and this is true. Su-35S is a wonderful fighter, but also requiring improvements and modernization. Imagine for a moment that ROFAR was installed on the SU-30,34,35 ... What will this mean? That stealth technology, on which mattresses made the main bet, can be thrown into the trash, since ROFAR is deeply stealth or not stealth in front of it, he will see everything perfectly at long range.
                And about the Japanese prototype ... well, you can also talk about the animation in the video about the Turkish 5th generation fighter.
                1. dog breeder
                  dog breeder 23 December 2017 20: 01
                  10
                  What pleased us with this news -
                  "The 5th generation F-35 fighter-bomber proposed by American developers did not meet the needs of the Japanese Air Force. They needed a maneuverable fighter to gain superiority in the air, rather than a clumsy" cow ". (C)
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 23 December 2017 20: 06
                    +5
                    Quote: dog breeder
                    "The 5th generation F-35 fighter-bomber proposed by American developers did not meet the needs of the Japanese Air Force. They needed a maneuverable fighter to gain superiority in the air, rather than a clumsy" cow ". (C)

                    And the F-35 is not a fighter, but rather a bomber attack aircraft with a claim to fighter functions. He does not even need outstanding maneuverability. Again, mattresses rely very much on stealth, the technology of which has been known since the 60s and is no longer as much know-how as during the F-117 ... for mattresses, fighter planes upgrade this F-15, F-16 and F -18 who are really air fighters.
                    1. EvilLion
                      EvilLion 25 December 2017 09: 09
                      +1
                      Attack aircraft just in a rather logical way get a good horizontal maneuverability (Rafale, F / A-18), simply due to the very large wing area, with all the ensuing negative consequences for the dynamics.

                      True, the Su-35 with wing loading is still better, as well as with traction.
                  2. barsik92090
                    barsik92090 24 December 2017 11: 02
                    0
                    The most dangerous thing is that this cow can spoil liquidly and a lot, due to defects.
            2. FLOOD
              FLOOD 3 January 2018 08: 15
              0
              Well, 30 with UVT is almost ready, soon the darts will be driven under the car. And the Indians didn’t interfere in this matter in vain.
  3. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 23 December 2017 22: 20
    +1
    It’s a very interesting car.
  4. Private61
    Private61 24 December 2017 04: 36
    +1
    Yapps made the most superfood super plane and bought F-35 from amers. belay
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 24 December 2017 10: 05
      +3
      All American vassals must buy f35 lol And on x2 the road will be overpowered by the going + the Japanese have excellent technologies, so that they will succeed if the US does not ban
      1. MoJloT
        MoJloT 27 December 2017 17: 14
        +1
        There is a nuance, the Japanese made their car before asking them to sell them f22, and they will do it regardless of the decision. Most likely the Japanese insist on f22 knowing that they will not get it 110%, this is part of the US claims to Japan.
        But here Mitsubishi is amazing, like a corporation from a Japanese film about the future, a giant monster releasing everything from pens and beer, to spaceships and satellites. Having his own army of military, politicians and police officers. Another devil knows what they are keeping quiet about.
  5. shinobi
    shinobi 24 December 2017 04: 52
    +5
    Well, it’s too early to talk about getting ahead, X2 is not even a technology demonstrator, so a test of strength. But here is the fact that the Yapps are actively working to restore their military-industrial complex a signal for action.
  6. unignm
    unignm 24 December 2017 07: 14
    0
    how did they overtake that?
  7. svp67
    svp67 24 December 2017 08: 19
    +2
    If this is a prototype, then obviously a light fighter, and then questions arise. And why does he need TWO engines for a light fighter is not the best solution, since there is too much excess weight ... Let's see what they get. But it’s not yet clear what they overtook the very Americans ...
  8. omit
    omit 24 December 2017 11: 33
    +2
    The aerodynamic design of the aircraft repeats the F-22, NOTHING NEW. Also, like the Su-57 repeats the F-22.
    And the F-22 will soon retire. Here and judge the achievements of followers.
    1. Iskander-Khan
      Iskander-Khan 24 December 2017 17: 18
      +7
      .... opinion from the promised land ... Su-57 ... repeats F-22 ... !!! ??
      1. omit
        omit 24 December 2017 19: 51
        0
        Iskander-Khan
        What happened before: an egg or a chicken?
        1. Vadim_2
          Vadim_2 25 December 2017 05: 47
          +8
          It used to be a MiG-25
      2. omit
        omit 25 December 2017 10: 42
        +1
        Iskander Khan Su-57 ... repeats F-22 !!!!!!!!
    2. Vita vko
      Vita vko 24 December 2017 17: 39
      +5
      Quote: omit
      NOTHING NEW

      Maybe. Then, according to your logic, since the invention of the first rocket in ancient Greece by Alix Sin, 400th century BC, there is also nothing new in space exploration and rocket technology. But if we talk about the aerodynamic schemes of aircraft made using the stealth technology, then it is probably more correct to talk about the works of professors E.N. Vasiliev and P.Ya. Ufimtseva. V.A. Fock. Namely, numerical methods for solving scattering problems based on integral equations were used in the first electrodynamic models of objects with reduced radar visibility. This is roughly the beginning of the end of the 50s. And only after 30 years something like that could fly.
      1. omit
        omit 24 December 2017 19: 49
        +1
        Vita vko
        Why are you talking, it flew!
        1. andrey_liss
          andrey_liss 4 January 2018 14: 50
          0
          Mr. Omit, from your comment I conclude that you do not own the question, why then puff up cheeks? Please find in the press all the prototypes of promising LA Design Bureau Sukhoi and Mikoyan, Ilyushin, and make, I hope, the correct conclusion.
  9. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 24 December 2017 13: 59
    +3
    Yes, for the new Pearl Harbor, which they will arrange for the Americans, we should also help Shinze Aba! Let them organize, all the same, we must answer for Hiroshima!
    1. Prole
      Prole 24 December 2017 19: 25
      0
      With their debts to the WTO? Maybe they, in contrast to the Americans, conspire with Russia?
  10. Azov
    Azov 24 December 2017 19: 02
    +1
    Hmm, I would see how they will eliminate the break in the fiber optic plane: D
  11. Prole
    Prole 24 December 2017 19: 24
    +1
    And what, the plane. And how are they going to use it, and where? They are under occupation as the losing side. Do they dare to yap against the Americans with their debts? China ... So they already got there in the teeth. Another cut, as we have.
    1. Antoxa iglinsky
      Antoxa iglinsky 25 December 2017 09: 49
      +2
      They are afraid of North Korea. The Chinese intensified enormously while they swallowed up world industry, but then who knows what ambitions might arise. Given that they "dearly love" the Japanese after everything they did during the war. The Americans are allies, but given that the president is inadequate, you can only rely on yourself. Therefore, they riveted a new Zero, as in the good old days.
      1. passerby5
        passerby5 27 December 2017 08: 55
        +1
        somehow the survey data was voiced, and then shown on TV as a correspondent with yuppes talking about hatred for amers ..... so even among those who survived Hiroshima, their eyes did not shine with hatred. And the youth just didn’t feel like even Amers fell in love with it ... the cat and we have a boy from Urengoy .... (((
  12. Macross
    Macross 25 December 2017 02: 36
    +1
    X-2 and does it have elements of stealth?
    1. vrazhin
      vrazhin 25 December 2017 15: 03
      +1
      And then !!!! The element of secrecy is unique ..... here we’ve watched the video .... and the more you will never see this hu-2 ..... do not mess gentlemen !!!!
    2. passerby5
      passerby5 27 December 2017 12: 31
      0
      Yes, X-2 times knows)))
  13. dedboroded72
    dedboroded72 25 December 2017 05: 56
    +2
    In Japan, the F16 was never in service. Mitsubishi F2 (Japanese version of the F16, much larger, with increased flight range, AFAR, etc.)
  14. EvilLion
    EvilLion 25 December 2017 09: 06
    +1
    There is a suggestion, for such deceitful names, simply delete publications.
  15. Julio Jurenito
    Julio Jurenito 25 December 2017 11: 23
    0
    As Grandfather Schukar used to say:
    - The chicken is in the nest, and the testicle is in ... Forgive me, Lord!
  16. gig334
    gig334 26 December 2017 12: 33
    0
    F35 does not pull on a fifth-generation aircraft at all, its characteristics, in addition to invisibility, are inferior to fourth-generation aircraft. And his invisibility is doubtful.
  17. lieutenant colonel
    lieutenant colonel 27 December 2017 08: 49
    0
    In general, the article is about nothing ...
    Manilov also planned to build a crystal bridge to Chichikov’s neighbor across the lake, - it’s beautiful ... To visit each other again)))
  18. asr55
    asr55 3 January 2018 16: 38
    0
    The announcer as an expert Nersisyan (maybe he) is the same wooden. Especially for wooden: - representatives of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries emphasize that the X-2 is only a prototype with “glider, engines and other modern systems and equipment that can be used in future fighters. " The combat version will receive the designation F-3 and will probably be adopted not earlier than 2030.