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Poland asked Russian officers to return to the JCCC in the Donbass

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Poland asks Russian representatives to return to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination of the Ceasefire Regime in Donbass (JCCC), the Polish Foreign Ministry said in a statement.


In Warsaw, they took with concern the escalation of the armed conflict in Ukraine, which is confirmed by the assessment of the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission, the Foreign Ministry said. "The number of truce violations in the Donbass has reached a level that has not been since January
- said in a statement.

Poland asked Russian officers to return to the JCCC in the Donbass


According to the Polish Foreign Ministry, the withdrawal of Russian officers has become a factor that contributes to increased tension.

Poland, represented in the Special Monitoring Mission by the second largest contingent among the EU countries, regards this step as another attempt to worsen the security of observers and further limit their ability to perform their tasks.

We express the hope that the Russian side will decide on the immediate return to the JCCC
- concludes the Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Russia recalled its observer officers from the Donbass due to the fact that Kiev for a long time impeded their work and created a "tense moral and psychological environment." For example, officers were restricted from accessing the line of contact and prohibited from communicating with local people.
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  1. CAPTIVE
    CAPTIVE 23 December 2017 14: 18 New
    +6
    Russian officers simply do not want to watch all this ...! We want to fight ...
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 23 December 2017 14: 21 New
      40
      Quote: captive
      ! We want to fight ..

      Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.
      We express the hope that the Russian side will decide on the immediate return to the JCCC

      Hostages or something. negative
      1. 210ox
        210ox 23 December 2017 14: 23 New
        +8
        Yes, a hard case ... Request from a parallel world ... Something felt ..
        Quote: 79807420129
        Quote: captive
        ! We want to fight ..

        Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.
        We express the hope that the Russian side will decide on the immediate return to the JCCC

        Hostages or something. negative
        1. Red_Hamer
          Red_Hamer 23 December 2017 15: 26 New
          +6
          Request from a parallel world ... Something felt ..
          All cards confused them, what else can I say. Macron and frau also want this, well, really! As they let the order down want, so they want!
          1. Going
            Going 23 December 2017 15: 33 New
            +6
            Quote: Red_Hamer
            Request from a parallel world ... Something felt ..
            All cards confused them, what else can I say. Macron and frau also want this, well, really! As they let the order down want, so they want!

            Wanting is not harmful, Poroshenko asks Germans and French, here's another Pole to add there.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 23 December 2017 15: 40 New
              12
              Hi victor hi Yes, they are simply afraid of logs that ukrovermaht unfold in their direction. Remember how Europe hoped that the possessed corporal would not pay attention to it in favor of the USSR.
              1. Going
                Going 23 December 2017 15: 44 New
                +5
                Maxim, good afternoon! hi they’re rightly afraid, so let their observers be sent there.
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 23 December 2017 15: 47 New
                  +6
                  Yeah, so - it’s annoying! Let the Russians return — there are many, but few Poles: there is no one to speak of the Commonwealth to defend. Ugh, profursetki ... am
                  1. Going
                    Going 23 December 2017 15: 51 New
                    +5
                    Grandma Merkel and Macron began to howl, three months were silent and suddenly woke up.
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 23 December 2017 15: 55 New
                      +5
                      And what are these US horns themselves? Zero without a stick. Pennants are cheap ...
                      1. Going
                        Going 23 December 2017 15: 59 New
                        +4
                        They want to build the US, but they can’t share the place of the chief, and the USA incites Poland, it is fun there.
                2. Jedi
                  Jedi 23 December 2017 16: 10 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Going
                  They want to build the US, but they can’t share the place of the chief, and the USA incites Poland, it is fun there.

                  But everything is subject to the old principle - divide and rule. The United States has long understood this and is in full compliance. And fairy tales about a united Europe are tales for idiots.
                  1. Going
                    Going 23 December 2017 16: 12 New
                    +5
                    Therefore, the United States and arranges a "fun" life in Europe and catches up with more troops.
                    1. Jedi
                      Jedi 23 December 2017 16: 33 New
                      +5
                      It will not turn out to be good for Europe itself ...
                      1. Going
                        Going 23 December 2017 16: 38 New
                        +4
                        What good is there - the number one goal is becoming and the United States will suck all the juices from them.
                3. Baloo
                  Baloo 23 December 2017 19: 08 New
                  +1
                  Poland, represented in the Special Monitoring Mission by the second largest contingent among the EU countries, regards this step as another attempt to worsen the security of observers and further limit their ability to perform their tasks.

                  Right now, the Russian shoelaces will be stroked, the berets will lace up and go to watch how the banderlogs kill people in the Donbass, and international observers do not see this, but at least the same Poles. At the same time, progressive humanity will continue to supply banderlogs with weapons and equipment. At the same time, everyone will shout in chorus that the Russians see all this, like in the subject too.
                  And to treat Russian officers as interned prisoners of war, but how much you can endure. am
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 23 December 2017 21: 32 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Balu
                    and international observers do not see this, but at least the same Poles.

                    They are only able to crap past and off topic.
            2. Tatyana
              Tatyana 23 December 2017 15: 50 New
              +7
              Let the EU first adopt sanctions against Ukraine, then Russia will see what it does!

              And then Poland is engaged in pharisaism on the part of the EU and NATO countries in favor of the Armed Forces and the Kiev junta! Namely, in favor of: 1) ranting Ukraine to the whole world, that there are Russian troops in Ukraine and they need to be withdrawn from there 2) in favor of denigrating Russian military personnel as part of the JCCC in the Donbass, creating unbearable moral and physical working conditions for them, right down to before the capture of Russian troops hostage by the Armed Forces.
              1. Going
                Going 23 December 2017 15: 54 New
                +5
                They have no time to deal with Ukraine, in Germany anarchy, in France lack of power, and Poland wants to be clever.
                1. Sergey53
                  Sergey53 23 December 2017 19: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Going
                  They have no time to deal with Ukraine, in Germany anarchy, in France lack of power, and Poland wants to be clever.

                  And why did they contact us? Why not to Ukraine? After all, you support her from them and ask.
                  1. Going
                    Going 23 December 2017 19: 38 New
                    +3
                    Because everywhere and in everything Russia.
            3. Kent0001
              Kent0001 23 December 2017 17: 24 New
              0
              Will blind-deaf-dumb observers come from the French Germans and Poles?
        2. Scoun
          Scoun 23 December 2017 15: 29 New
          +3
          Quote: 210ox
          Yes, a hard case ... Request from a parallel world ... Something felt ..

          Let their flawed Matsarevich asks for the impression that the logs are not friendly with each other.
          In their pupil.
        3. katana
          katana 23 December 2017 15: 42 New
          +2
          [quote = .. Something felt ..
          Et even I from Armenia feel that the conclusion of Russian observers
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 23 December 2017 17: 23 New
            0
            Quote: katana
            Et even I from Armenia feel that the conclusion of Russian observers

            Shot down on take-off? laughing
        4. Topotun
          Topotun 25 December 2017 10: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: 210ox
          Yes, a hard case ... Request from a parallel world ... Something felt ..

          Rather, they fear that our Ukrainians may be afraid to fire. But with the Poles, especially in the light of recent disagreements with Poland, Kiev ....
      2. CAPTIVE
        CAPTIVE 23 December 2017 14: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.

        I’ll go and my sons will follow me ..! I have these, b & c e ..
        And there are many of them in Russia! And we will find machine guns with tanks ... soldier
        1. Thrall
          Thrall 23 December 2017 14: 53 New
          +5
          Quote: captive
          Quote: 79807420129
          Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.

          I’ll go and my sons will follow me ..! I have these, b & c e ..
          And there are many of them in Russia! And we will find machine guns with tanks ... soldier

          Well, one more napososhk and forward smile
          1. 210ox
            210ox 23 December 2017 14: 55 New
            +2
            Vitaly is again weird .. belay
            Quote: Thrall
            Quote: captive
            Quote: 79807420129
            Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.

            I’ll go and my sons will follow me ..! I have these, b & c e ..
            And there are many of them in Russia! And we will find machine guns with tanks ... soldier

            Well, one more napososhk and forward smile
            1. Thrall
              Thrall 23 December 2017 15: 02 New
              +5
              Quote: 210ox
              Vitaly is again weird ..

              Of course it’s strange.
              First, planes and guns, and then machine guns and tanks. smile
              1. Scoun
                Scoun 23 December 2017 15: 31 New
                +4
                Quote: Thrall
                Quote: 210ox
                Vitaly is again weird ..

                Of course it’s strange.
                First, planes and guns, and then machine guns and tanks. smile

                And only then from the sofa - oh, the Motherland did not call, she managed without us. wassat
          2. bycharashkO
            bycharashkO 24 December 2017 09: 16 New
            0
            nasty demotivator
      3. Blombirus
        Blombirus 23 December 2017 16: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        Quote: captive
        ! We want to fight ..

        Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.
        We express the hope that the Russian side will decide on the immediate return to the JCCC

        Hostages or something. negative

        Our officers in the JCCC have nothing more to do. Now Kakeli will transfer their chronic hatred to hissing sunflowers. Really sick of the Bzdysk?
      4. Geisenberg
        Geisenberg 23 December 2017 21: 27 New
        0
        Quote: 79807420129
        Take the machine, get up from the sofa and go, you can with the sofa.


        I’ll get up and take it with pleasure. And do you guarantee that there will be a full-scale clash, and not the one that’s happening right now?
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 24 December 2017 08: 53 New
          +4
          Quote: Geisenberg
          I’ll get up with pleasure and take it

          Take a gun and want a war agree different things Colleague. hi
    2. Finches
      Finches 23 December 2017 14: 25 New
      +9
      And the US decision on the supply of weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is an exclusively peacekeeping step, the top of humanity and humanity! Duda, with delight, probably kissed the whole telephone cut when he called the State Department to express his admiration for this friendly act in the name of world peace ....laughing
      1. Pirogov
        Pirogov 23 December 2017 14: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        And the US decision on the supply of weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is an exclusively peacekeeping step, the top of humanity and humanity! Duda, with delight, probably kissed the whole telephone cut when he called the State Department to express his admiration for this friendly act in the name of world peace

        Well, about the owners, or good, or not what. Poland simply expressed the wish of its owners.
      2. Scoun
        Scoun 23 December 2017 15: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        And the US decision on the supply of weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is an exclusively peacekeeping step, the top of humanity and humanity!

        Looks like our Voentorg has its own interest and the shortest way to get it is Ukraine.
        The death of one person is a tragedy, millions are statistics. (C) Stalin.
        This is unfortunately true. They tell us from TV about terrorist attacks and dozens of victims, we all stick to screens, and so on the roads over the year, tens of thousands of people die, more than 24000 thousand people in 2016.
        1. BLOND
          BLOND 23 December 2017 15: 56 New
          +2

          This phrase gained popularity because of Remarque’s novel “The Black Obelisk”, written in 1956: “But, apparently, it always happens: the death of one person is death, and the death of two million is just statistics.” However, Remarque, most likely, is not its author, but most likely borrowed it from a publicist of the times of the Weimar Republic of Tukholsky. In the essay "Franz; sischer Witz" he wrote:

          "Der Krieg? Ich kann das nicht so schrecklich finden! Der Tod eines Menschen: das ist eine Katastrophe. Hunderttausend Tote: das ist eine Statistik! ”
          War? I find it not very terrible! The death of one person: this is a disaster. A hundred thousand dead: this is statistics!

          Nevertheless, Stalin did utter this phrase. But in conditions and intonations that fundamentally change the attitude towards it, and the moral character of Stalin.

          This happened in the early days of World War II, when there was a analysis of the causes of such terrifying losses of the Red Army and the lightning-fast advance of the Wehrmacht deep into the USSR. The question arose about the punishment of those responsible. Among them was the commander of the troops of the Western District, General Pavlov and a number of other commanders of the highest command staff. Stalin believed that it was these people who were guilty of losses. Some, especially fanatical, Bolsheviks even inclined to the idea that there was a fact of betrayal. However, the version of betrayal did not receive support and was not seriously considered in the future. The conclusion with respect to the command staff was that they showed criminal negligence and negligence.

          When Stalin voiced this opinion, some members of the Soviet Government noted that this was the tragedy of these commanders, not the fault ... And then, Stalin said with questioning intonations: “The death of one person is a tragedy. And the deaths of thousands of people are statistics? ”
          1. Scoun
            Scoun 23 December 2017 16: 12 New
            +2
            Quote: BLOND
            Stalin said with questioning intonations: “The death of one person is a tragedy. And the deaths of thousands of people are statistics? ”

            This one is taken by me.
            Quote: BLOND
            This phrase gained popularity because of Remarque's novel "The Black Obelisk"

            My favorite novel.
            IMHA.
            The phrase about the tragedy and statistics, no matter how you say it, it won’t change the essence, but Stalin voiced it with such a “catch” and a hint .. like - their death is statistics for you and what will your death be for you?
            I am sure that this phrase is so well felt .....
      3. katana
        katana 23 December 2017 16: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        And the US decision on the supply of weapons to the Armed Forces of Ukraine is an exclusively peacekeeping step, the top of humanity and humanity! Duda, with delight, probably kissed the whole telephone cut when he called the State Department to express his admiration for this friendly act in the name of world peace ....laughing

        Look, don’t really “anger” the Poles - they produce Spike anti-tank guided missiles under an Israeli license, and can deliver them to / from Ukraine, especially after the “hegemon” was noted in this case. And I will tell you “Spike” will be worse than these vaunted “Javelins” - their range is higher and their management is not just the IKG. Just kidding! smile
        1. Finches
          Finches 23 December 2017 16: 07 New
          0
          Spike has three features that Ukrainians simply won’t pull - 1) The high price of both the launcher and the rocket is about 250 thousand US dollars. 2) An extremely complex production technology that does not allow for mass production of systems. 3) The complexity of managing the complex. Special operator training required.
          1. katana
            katana 23 December 2017 16: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            Spike has three features that Ukrainians simply won’t pull - 1) The high price of both the launcher and the rocket is about 250 thousand US dollars. 2) An extremely complex production technology that does not allow for mass production of systems. 3) The complexity of managing the complex. Special operator training required.

            I didn’t even think that Ukrainians could set up Spike production. These complexes can be supplied with simulators, God forbid. The main limiter is the price of Spike.
          2. akims
            akims 24 December 2017 22: 52 New
            +1
            You forgot about another - spike, as the French say - merde, and complete! The claimed characteristics are greatly exaggerated, a huge number of misfires and accidents during launches, carefully hidden.
            1. Finches
              Finches 24 December 2017 23: 36 New
              +1
              Jews will not forgive you such revelations ... laughing hi
        2. polkovnik manuch
          polkovnik manuch 23 December 2017 18: 00 New
          0
          Do not frighten, it’s better to remember the Russian proverb: “there will always be a bigger bolt with a threaded butt”.
    3. Mu Dialer
      Mu Dialer 23 December 2017 14: 26 New
      +2
      Well, do you want to fight fighting ... Do you write from a trench? Or from a warm apartment from a upright sofa?
    4. Shura Sailors
      Shura Sailors 23 December 2017 14: 40 New
      12
      Do you want to fight ?!
      I’ll tell you my opinion on this matter - not a single NORMAL and REFERRING person wants to fight, because war is a necessary measure leading to destruction and death. And there is nothing good in the war (this is told to you by a man who served in the army in peacetime and saw the war in adulthood).
      Do not confuse heroism with bravado (the first often has to be on the battlefield, the second ends in the war in the first battle).
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 23 December 2017 15: 21 New
        +2
        Yes, it’s local ... cheers, I’m constantly changing users and I didn’t recognize it right away.
    5. Herculesic
      Herculesic 23 December 2017 14: 46 New
      +3
      CAPTIVAL - Vitaly, will you again or again bite rubbish? Do you want to fight, for real, let's go to the forefront! sad
    6. izya top
      izya top 23 December 2017 14: 46 New
      15
      Quote: captive
      Russian officers simply do not want to watch all this ...! We want to fight ...

      1. sir_obs
        sir_obs 23 December 2017 14: 57 New
        15
        Did the author stand in the rain for so long? Or bodies decomposing observed a long time?
        Or just on TV? Why this pathos?
        None of us wants to fight and does not call for war. And it warns just those who are trying to impose this war on us by all means.
        And rather, those who are on the “credit cars” will defend themselves, rather than well-fed and sluggish, which everyone can afford without being burdened by the credit burden, but, on the contrary, capitalizing on it.
        1. LiSiCyn
          LiSiCyn 23 December 2017 15: 14 New
          +9
          Krasava !!! Correctly wrote ... good So, everything will be ... Those who live from salary to salary will stand up. In the hope that the children will live ... And live better.
          1. LiSiCyn
            LiSiCyn 23 December 2017 15: 17 New
            +1
            In the rain and snow, there was ... Digging trenches .. I did not see the decaying bodies. I hope not to see No.
          2. katana
            katana 23 December 2017 16: 08 New
            +4
            Quote: LiSiCyn
            Krasava !!! Correctly wrote ... good So, everything will be ... Those who live from salary to salary will stand up. In the hope that the children will live ... And live better.

            In the war, I didn’t observe the sons of the rich and politicians. What did they lose there? A simple hard worker dies in any war. Yes, and the propagandists do not die - they cover the course of hostilities.
        2. Thrall
          Thrall 23 December 2017 15: 14 New
          0
          sir_obs,
          What percentage do you have? smile
          1. Smog
            Smog 23 December 2017 15: 21 New
            +3
            It would be better if the Poles took care of this.
          2. sir_obs
            sir_obs 23 December 2017 15: 37 New
            +1
            What percentage do you have? smile

            Thank God I can afford not to take loans. But here from the words of this, I will not clarify, just warps. So much in them comes through disdain for people who have not made a fortune.
            “on credit cars” they irritate her, but doesn't she feel sick from the St. George ribbon?
            I would turn on the brain and make sense that “repeat” refers to the victory over the enemy, and not to the outbreak of war. But such
            her liberal brain is not able to digest, because even the name is in a Western manner.
            1. katana
              katana 23 December 2017 16: 13 New
              +1
              By the way - this summer I was at your place and saw that women in years tied St. George ribbons to their handbags. One woman was very kind and showed me the way, I could not quickly find my way in an unfamiliar city. I figured that she has bad finances.
            2. just exp
              just exp 23 December 2017 21: 58 New
              0
              if you are talking about that picture, then the aftyr did not feel sick from the St. George ribbon, but from the inscription "we can repeat"
        3. Scoun
          Scoun 23 December 2017 15: 54 New
          +1
          Quote: sir_obs
          Did the author stand in the rain for so long? Or bodies decomposing observed a long time?

          But Jein and tretyakova and everything in their native Latin)))
      2. KaPToC
        KaPToC 23 December 2017 19: 01 New
        0
        Quote: izya top
        izya top

        Do you propose to raise your legs and give up?
    7. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 23 December 2017 15: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: captive
      Russian officers simply do not want to watch all this ...! We want to fight ...

      There is a gorgeous song "Do Russian Wars Want":
      Yes, we know how to fight,
      But we do not want again
      Soldiers fell in battle
      To the ground bitter.
      You will ask your mother,
      Ask my wife,
      And then you must understand
      Do Russians want, do Russians want
      Do the Russians want war.

      And if in my own words - I do not want to fight, like any normal man. I do not want to nausea, to cold on the back. I don’t want to, because I’ve been at the top of my head. I don’t want, not because war is dirt, stink, cold and sweat, you quickly get used to it. I don’t want to, because you cannot get used to the mental pain from losing loved ones. On the contrary, the nerves in war are shaken rather than strengthened. But if the Motherland calls, then I’ll go to war. But I can’t go, then I’ll crawl on the fours. How else?!
    8. LeonidL
      LeonidL 24 December 2017 03: 20 New
      +2
      The request is to satisfy. Officers should be returned ... with the proper military weapons and units of the airborne forces to guard during the performance of the appropriate missions, as well as with the right to shoot the violators of the regime of silence on the spot after an inspection and investigation, for which purpose to separate the battalion of military police from the natives of the North Caucasus.
      1. akims
        akims 24 December 2017 22: 57 New
        0
        That's right, return the officers. Give personal protection - 2000 people to Kadyrov. Exclusively with personal light weapons - machine guns, grenade launchers, bugs of local development.
  2. assa67
    assa67 23 December 2017 14: 22 New
    +8
    and they did the right thing that they deduced .... it’s enough to recall a recent article about HOW our officers had to work there .... and now the Commonwealth has taken care ... let them create their own monitoring center, where they will ensure safety and efficiency of work .... but something is hard to believe in their "concern" .....
    1. 210ox
      210ox 23 December 2017 14: 25 New
      +3
      And why are there also Poles in the Donbass?
      Quote: assa67
      and they did the right thing that they deduced .... it’s enough to recall a recent article about HOW our officers had to work there .... and now the Commonwealth has taken care ... let them create their own monitoring center, where they will ensure safety and efficiency of work .... but something is hard to believe in their "concern" .....
      1. assa67
        assa67 23 December 2017 14: 32 New
        +4
        they are already there in the obsession mission (I don’t feel like writing in big letters about this office) .... I don’t even talk about hired workers .... but since they’ve "been bothered and asked to return" let them put pressure on the kuev ....
        1. 210ox
          210ox 23 December 2017 14: 34 New
          +1
          Concern let them take down the toilet.
          Quote: assa67
          they are already there in the obsession mission (I don’t feel like writing in big letters about this office) .... I don’t even talk about hired workers .... but since they’ve "been bothered and asked to return" let them put pressure on the kuev ....
          1. assa67
            assa67 23 December 2017 14: 53 New
            +4
            Quote: 210ox
            Concern let them take down the toilet.

            here I completely agree with you hi
            Quote: Herkulesich
            And the Poles themselves are not able to do anything without us ??? sad You, your NATO, started a massacre there with the hands of ukroinatsi! So give them the command "fu", and drive them to the stall!

            here, in principle, I’d like to say it, only more accurately, otherwise it’s not childish laughing
      2. medvedron
        medvedron 23 December 2017 15: 06 New
        +1
        So the Poles have been fighting in the Donbass since 2014, so they are specifically worried about their own.
    2. cormorant
      cormorant 23 December 2017 15: 13 New
      0
      Come on, blow the bubbles, Merkel’s girlfriend called. Soon, the observer officers will again be sent to endure bullying.
    3. Nikolay Fedorov
      Nikolay Fedorov 23 December 2017 15: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: assa67
      and they did the right thing that they deduced .... it’s enough to recall a recent article about HOW our officers had to work there .... and now the Commonwealth has taken care ... let them create their own monitoring center, where they will ensure safety and efficiency of work .... but something is hard to believe in their "concern" .....

      Apparently, our departure from the mission destroyed the NATO plan, in which our officers assigned the important role of a wick, which was to be set on fire soon. Well done, we beat to the evils of NATO!
      1. assa67
        assa67 23 December 2017 15: 38 New
        +4
        quite possible...
        Quote: Nikolai Fedorov
        You see, our departure from the mission destroyed the NATO plan,

        who knows what is now on the mind of the horses ....
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 23 December 2017 16: 01 New
      +2
      Quote: assa67
      something is hard to believe in their "concern" .....

      I just believe in it))) I’ll sell an ancient weapon to a mattress, Germany will express concern, France will accuse Russia and illegal immigrants with weapons and drugs will trample Poland from ruins to Poland.
      Poles understand that in their Euro-brothel, they are the first victims of the conflict in Ukraine.
    5. Hoc vince
      Hoc vince 23 December 2017 18: 06 New
      0
      I am tormented by vague doubts that under the cries that our troops are in LDNR, they meant our officers in the CCTSK. Now, when they are not there, they are shouting: do they urgently need to return?
      1. assa67
        assa67 23 December 2017 20: 45 New
        +5
        here! smart girl ... ... phushington and kuev, conspired by themselves, and psheks only make different sounds laughing
  3. Shura Sailors
    Shura Sailors 23 December 2017 14: 23 New
    +4
    Something is not clear belay . They shout that there is nothing to be done by the Russian military in the Donbas (for representatives of the Ahchresor country), then almost the whole European community directly begs Russia to return the observers back. All this is not casual. Maybe they were preparing (some kind of provocation or something else) for the Russian military. And now everything breaks off with the withdrawal of officers of the JCCC.
    1. Sargas
      Sargas 23 December 2017 14: 38 New
      +3
      Because propaganda is one thing, and war is at hand quite another! Yes, and with a predictable outcome ... undead Natsik across the Ukrainian-Polish border ...
    2. medvedron
      medvedron 23 December 2017 15: 07 New
      +4
      Yes, they just realized that with this conclusion Putin untied his hands and himself and the militias.
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 23 December 2017 15: 17 New
        0
        Quote: medvedron
        Yes, they just realized that with this conclusion Putin untied his hands and himself and the militias.

        And who tied his hands to him?
        Would try ..
        conclusion is another lesson .. Europe. from Putin ..
        1. medvedron
          medvedron 23 December 2017 23: 49 New
          0
          The fighting in Syria.
    3. katana
      katana 23 December 2017 16: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Shura sailors
      Something is not clear belay . They shout that there is nothing to be done by the Russian military in the Donbas (for representatives of the Ahchresor country), then almost the whole European community directly begs Russia to return the observers back. All this is not casual. Maybe they were preparing (some kind of provocation or something else) for the Russian military. And now everything breaks off with the withdrawal of officers of the JCCC.

      What is not clear here is that they are simply afraid that without Russian observers, the DPR will freely hook to the right of the APU. There may be a knockout, at best a knockdown.
  4. Mu Dialer
    Mu Dialer 23 December 2017 14: 23 New
    +8
    And why do we need to leave our hostages to the enemies before the start of active hostilities? Our officers were brought out correctly.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 23 December 2017 14: 31 New
      +2
      There is such a feeling .. The operation in Syria, I think, tied our hands, and the Kremlin’s leaders must make a choice before the election ..
      Quote: Mu Dialer
      And why do we need to leave our hostages to the enemies before the start of active hostilities? Our officers were brought out correctly.
      1. Golovan Jack
        Golovan Jack 23 December 2017 16: 49 New
        +8
        Quote: 210ox
        The operation in Syria, I think, bound our hands ...

        The operation in Syria (in particular), tied hands ... not "ours", as you put it, namely the Amertians. Which were forced to hurry throw Nenka "in dirty diapers" (hands did not reach to change because).
        That now the USA will climb back to Ukraine - do not go to a fortuneteller.
        The fact that this will cause the activation of the APU is similar.
        The fact that some countermeasures are being prepared against this, ahem, is clear even to a hedgehog.
        The withdrawal of the officers of the "joint center for monitoring and coordinating the ceasefire and stabilizing the situation" from Ukraine in this light seems to be a completely logical, albeit completely uncritical step.
        That is, to say that "they’ve brought it out, and tomorrow ... we’ll blow it" I would not become an example.
    2. Shura Sailors
      Shura Sailors 23 December 2017 14: 46 New
      +4
      Do you have specific data on the intentions of the warring parties? For almost four years of the war in Ukraine, they did not predict anything — from New Russia to the Romanian border, to scorched earth to Rostov. So do not make sudden conclusions, time will tell "who it is or what."
      1. katana
        katana 23 December 2017 16: 28 New
        +1
        Quote: Shura sailors
        Do you have specific data on the intentions of the warring parties? For almost four years of the war in Ukraine, they did not predict anything — from New Russia to the Romanian border, to scorched earth to Rostov. So do not make sudden conclusions, time will tell "who it is or what."

        Mr. forum member under the nickname 210 okv, the matter says, although I personally am not a supporter of the Russian-Ukrainian war - such a drawn-out confrontation and a state of neither peace nor war are certainly beneficial to Ukraine and not beneficial to Russia. Ukraine is gradually “freaking out” every year like this smile , strengthens military propaganda on its citizens, builds up weapons and increases personnel. If you decide on something, it’s better to quickly. Because your GDP itself said that in the Petersburg gateway it’s better to give back to the offender than to read him notations. For the accuracy of quoting words I do not warrant Mr. Putin, but the meaning of his statements was something like this.
      2. KaPToC
        KaPToC 23 December 2017 19: 04 New
        0
        Quote: Shura of the sailors
        For almost four years of the war in Ukraine, which they did not predict

        It is obvious! The resources of the warring parties are not unlimited, as everything calms down in Syria - the resources will go to war in Ukraine.
    3. ul_vitalii
      ul_vitalii 23 December 2017 14: 55 New
      +6
      Apparently they wanted our mission as a Boeing to hack, but the Ukrainians were too clever. Definitely preparing for the elections. As well as the otvetka for the supply of lethal weapons.
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 December 2017 14: 36 New
    +1
    The role of sacred sacrifice is not very suitable for our officers. We foiled their plans. The script was ruined. They are asked to return, so to speak, "to the canvas."
  6. Altona
    Altona 23 December 2017 14: 36 New
    +1
    Russia will someday return its officers. And I would like to see the level of Konstantin Rokossovsky. laughing
  7. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 23 December 2017 14: 41 New
    +7
    On your knees To ask as it should, for real! am
  8. izya top
    izya top 23 December 2017 14: 41 New
    0
    Do logs cuddle?
  9. Herculesic
    Herculesic 23 December 2017 14: 43 New
    +2
    And the Poles themselves are not able to do anything without us ??? sad You, your NATO, started a massacre there with the hands of ukroinatsi! So give them the command "fu", and drive them to the stall!
  10. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 23 December 2017 14: 44 New
    +2
    Psheki sensed that they were baking? It’s strange. laughing
  11. Masya masya
    Masya masya 23 December 2017 14: 52 New
    +4
    "French President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Angela Merkel called for the return of Russian troops to the Joint Center for Control and Coordination in the East of Ukraine (JCCC)" - RT
    now the Poles are screaming ... as soon as they get out, the tantrum started right there!
  12. sheridans
    sheridans 23 December 2017 14: 52 New
    +2
    Any trash will indicate Russia? Your scrap tips! The decision has been made and is not subject to discussion, especially from a failed beggar country.
  13. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 23 December 2017 14: 56 New
    +2
    "Viewed as an attempt to worsen the safety of observers?" Rave. The phrase does not lend itself to logical analysis. Essentially a meaningless set of words. If I were in power, I refused. Let the “Observers” first learn to write the truth about their observations and make the petitions as expected, then we’ll consider it.
  14. cannabis
    cannabis 23 December 2017 15: 16 New
    +1
    It seems that the message of the mainland Europe - Assia is one big hall on Dubrovka, and the performance of the Nord-Ost is about to begin.
  15. HEATHER
    HEATHER 23 December 2017 15: 18 New
    0
    Something is not heard from Matserevich. And if ours return there only with tanks and attack aircraft.
  16. Nemesis
    Nemesis 23 December 2017 15: 58 New
    0
    It’s time for Russia to stop participating in this farce. Negotiations with Bandera are useless, and all these Minsk agreements from the very beginning were a huge mistake bordering on a crime against the Russian people and Russia
  17. Ural resident
    Ural resident 23 December 2017 16: 07 New
    +1
    Looks like an answer began to come.
    Somehow for a long time our harness always, well, right for a very long time.
    In Georgia, they endured so much of everything - right up to the beating of our military personnel, and with the early withdrawal of our base from Georgia. Then they got it at the most ... but waited until our people died.
  18. LAWNER
    LAWNER 23 December 2017 16: 20 New
    0
    I understand correctly .... driver, paramedic, machine gunner (1) can now go to my relatives as a Builder? Ours do not control?
  19. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 23 December 2017 16: 26 New
    +1
    There is nothing to do there. They want the world not to vomit, but do not want to let them not be offended.
  20. LAWNER
    LAWNER 23 December 2017 16: 26 New
    0
    Not everyone understands ... ???
    PMCs are prohibited, but when there is no one to look, you can be a little ruffian. Russian observers left, there were pirates.
  21. SCHMEL
    SCHMEL 23 December 2017 16: 49 New
    +1
    Russia recalled its observer officers from the Donbass due to the fact that ...
    smile smile smile It’s time for a long time to closely observe another border laughing
  22. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 23 December 2017 17: 19 New
    +5
    Oh .. These though the rams are not confused. They ask and express hope ... The husk is a mattress.
  23. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 23 December 2017 18: 09 New
    0
    The pans were worried, they were afraid that no matter how in the future they didn’t have to enter into a coalition with Russia, when the outskirts began to “crumble”, they would remember the Volyn massacre and the Polish city of Lemberg. Therefore, I think that it would be better for them not to quarrel with Russia.
  24. Sergio3986
    Sergio3986 23 December 2017 20: 01 New
    +1
    And no one will come back. Our officers went there in uniform, with all the insignia and ... without weapons! Open! Only guards from among the National Guard!
  25. Sergio3986
    Sergio3986 23 December 2017 20: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: polkovnik manuch
    The pans were worried, they were afraid that no matter how in the future they didn’t have to enter into a coalition with Russia, when the outskirts began to “crumble”, they would remember the Volyn massacre and the Polish city of Lemberg. Therefore, I think that it would be better for them not to quarrel with Russia.

    Often I went to work in Poland, border areas. In general, the people are tuned more or less adequately to us (especially after the Harvest pepper). 200 km further - worse ... scumbags. It is necessary to take what was presented to Poland earlier.
  26. Lexus
    Lexus 23 December 2017 21: 18 New
    +1
    Going,
    They can’t do without a microphone. It is necessary to provide ... leather. High blow!
  27. akm8226
    akm8226 23 December 2017 23: 40 New
    0
    we hope that the Russian side will decide on an immediate return to the JCCC ... and why are they there? They cannot influence anything, absolutely nothing depends on them, because how much they spit on them from a high mountain ... and in which case they are ready-made hostages. Does anyone really understand this? Why does everyone think that THERE are people who have a concept of HONOR? Forget these tales, or tell them to your children - there are no people on the other side. If they had - for a long time the whole junta would hang on the lanterns. The fact that there are honest people there doesn’t change anything at all - the bulk, 90-95 percent, is a curiosity. And what kind of relationship do you want with the creatures? There were people in Germany too ... some of them even crossed the border to report an attack ... and how many were there? Five people !! from all over Germany))))) So no one needs to be returned there. Does Poland want it that way? Here, let Poland send its officers there.)))
  28. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 December 2017 00: 46 New
    0
    That's when Ukraine asks, then we will return.
    And then they lost the lightning rod in the form of our representatives and suddenly it turned out
    that ukrovermaht is not so innocent.
    Wait guys, now the skakuasa will go on the attack,
    it’s not for nothing that America allowed them to deliver weapons,
    and then you’ll generally be confused there, in the war zone.
  29. LeonidL
    LeonidL 24 December 2017 03: 19 New
    0
    The request is to satisfy. Officers should be returned ... with the proper military weapons and units of the airborne forces to guard during the performance of the appropriate missions, as well as with the right to shoot the violators of the regime of silence on the spot after an inspection and investigation, for which purpose to separate the battalion of military police from the natives of the North Caucasus.