KAMAZ has completed the preparation of serial production of P6 engines

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A formal event was held at KAMAZ to hand over the final stage of work as part of the development and production of the P6 family of six-cylinder in-line engines, reports press office company.





One of the world's leading manufacturers, the Liebherr group of companies (Germany), became a partner of the leader of the Russian truck engineering industry.

“With the commissioning of the new conveyor, the production capabilities of KAMAZ PJSC are significantly expanded. In 2018, the batch production of a new family of KAMAZ engines - six-cylinder in-line engines Р6 will be launched. These engines will be equipped with Kama trucks of the promising generation K5, the production of which is scheduled for 2019 year, the release says.

The innovative approach laid in the basis of our projects is especially in demand in the production of KAMAZ vehicles of a promising model range, which we are currently working on. We strive to make our product optimal for the consumer and enter new markets. New powerful and reliable engines Р6, created in cooperation with our partner on the basis of advanced world technologies, will allow us to significantly improve the technical and consumer characteristics of cars and make trucks safer for people and the environment,
quoted by the press service of the company's general director Sergey Kogogin.

The Liebherr Group has been developing and manufacturing engines for difficult climatic and operating conditions for more than 30 for years. Along with engines, the Liebherr Components department specializes in the design and manufacture of a wide range of high-tech components and assemblies.

History Cooperation of our companies has been around for many years since our companies began working on the development of a gearbox for the first KAMAZ trucks. In this regard, it is especially pleasant to be present at the birth of a new engine, which is the result of the hard work of our developers and engineers. The newest production line created exclusively for P6 engines is also impressive. I would like to express special thanks to the KAMAZ employee who made the implementation of this project possible and wish success with the new engine,
said during a solemn event, the president of the Liebherr group of companies, honorary doctor of engineering, Willi Liebherr.

It is reported that the new production pipeline РHNUMX "is equipped with the latest technology, in some moments it is superior to foreign counterparts." At the same time, “great attention is paid to compliance with technology and detailed quality control, - each operation can be traced to 6%.”.

Currently, all the lines of the new conveyor are working in commissioning mode. By the end of 2017, the release of 7-10 power units is planned. Industrial engine production will be launched in March of the 2018. The new line is designed for the production of 12 thousand power units per year.
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  1. +5
    21 December 2017 13: 26
    At one time, the Juice group in Izhovsk released Kia Spectra ... So they scored people from the street ... You can put any equipment you like ... But if you are used to hammering bolts with a hammer ... There is nothing to be done ...
    1. 0
      21 December 2017 22: 01
      In modern engine manufacturing, already 90% of operations are performed by robotic centers - this is the guarantee of quality. Nobody has been screwing a bolt with a sledgehammer for a long time, although of course there were such moments, it is useless to deny
  2. +7
    21 December 2017 13: 30
    KamAZ is constantly being upgraded, but what about the ZIL folder?
    - ZIL? What is it?
    Soon no one will remember!
    1. +20
      21 December 2017 13: 37
      Why not remember ?!
      Remember, grieve, love!
    2. +9
      21 December 2017 14: 03
      Quote: Ragnar lodbrok
      KamAZ is constantly being upgraded, but what about the ZIL folder?
      - ZIL? What is it?
      Soon no one will remember!

      I bought the 130th with the documents, I restore it slowly in my free time, “let the smoke out” after the engine was rebuilt on the weekend, I still had to find and make a wooden body with the repeaters on the bottom of the headlights and just make a wooden body - just as a souvenir - I started on them - the first love so to speak)))
  3. +5
    21 December 2017 13: 47
    Can’t we even create such an engine ourselves? Or are you already used to the fact that the foreign should dominate everywhere?
    1. +2
      21 December 2017 14: 00
      Capitalism, old man, capitalism! Quickly buy and quickly sell ... Why the hell should I break my head? wassat Local businessmen have not grown yet before investing in R&D! Wait a hundred years - maybe they will give money for development .. bully
      1. +3
        21 December 2017 15: 35
        International division of labor.
        Well, at least competent TK amounted to.
        The engine just under the Russian realities worked, with cast-iron block heads, unkillable.
        Yes, a little heavier than aluminum, but for all occasions.
        And the reserve for modernization is up to the horizon.
        Good luck on Russian roads!
    2. +8
      21 December 2017 14: 30
      "Even such an engine" - contains the ideas, best practices and experience of many people from different countries. It is foolish to limit yourself in development to a narrow circle - it is guaranteed to miss good technical implementation options.
    3. PN
      0
      21 December 2017 16: 17
      I read somewhere that the YaMZ Nizhneklaponniki resuscitated. But more information on them did not come across.
    4. 0
      21 December 2017 17: 23
      Import substitution in action, we kill some factories and develop folk money for the construction of new ones. What is the use for Russia?
  4. +2
    21 December 2017 13: 49
    It is reported that the new P6 production conveyor is equipped with the latest technology, at some points it surpasses foreign analogues ...

    I wonder what moments are like that? laughing
    1. +1
      21 December 2017 13: 58
      tightening torques ... by eye
  5. +7
    21 December 2017 13: 53
    Well, they would have written - the Liebherr company sold a license to its Kamaz engine, otherwise they cast a shadow on the wattle fence - they created a pancake. I agree with us, and this project will be ruined as iso-habili "Mercedes Axor" making on its base KAMAZ 5490 (rare rubbish)
    1. +3
      21 December 2017 14: 40
      The Russian Post purchased 450 Kamaz 5490, there are no complaints, there are one warranty claims.
      1. +1
        21 December 2017 21: 45
        Quote: Bronevick
        The Russian Post purchased 450 Kamaz 5490, there are no complaints, there are one warranty claims.

        And you yourself have come across him - if not, then shut up. If I start listing all the jambs of this parody of the axor, I get a long list, about 20 minutes of reading - I, unlike you, have been a practitioner with 25 years of experience.
        1. +2
          21 December 2017 22: 32
          Well, I have a brother, a mechanic for the release of the Russian Post line. Cars do not protect, the problems are mainly with fluid leaks. All cars drive 500-600 km every day. Not a single car stood in the middle of the track. Are you with a 25-year experience at 5490 ????
    2. +3
      21 December 2017 15: 39
      Put a shadow on the fence - the engine is newly developed,
      Inline six, not V-shaped.
      Naturally, he had a Liebherovsky prototype, a 12-cylinder, but this one is not at all half.
      1. 0
        21 December 2017 21: 53
        Quote: Vlad.by
        Put a shadow on the fence - the engine is newly developed,
        Inline six, not V-shaped.
        Naturally, he had a Liebherovsky prototype, a 12-cylinder, but this one is not at all half.

        What's new in it, what is not in other engines? Nothing!!! And do not go into a topic where you understand how a sheep is in the bible - but a student can also google - I went over my first motor (unlike you) completely as a schoolboy - it was YaMZ 238 (under sensitive batin guidance) at the 504th MAZe .
        1. +2
          22 December 2017 00: 00
          Well Master, well done with a capital letter. I did not touch Mazovian, only Muscovite in youth. Repeatedly. The same can be said no different from others. Block, head, camshaft, cylinder pistons, crankshaft and flywheel. And why do not they put them on Kamaz :-)
    3. 0
      21 December 2017 15: 50
      So Axor is not Acrtos.
      1. 0
        21 December 2017 22: 27
        Quote: Vlad.by
        So Axor is not Acrtos.

        And what? The new KAMAZ will be a shitty parody of an actress, like 5490 for an axor
        1. 0
          22 December 2017 00: 02
          I don’t know how the whole KAMAZ, but the engine promises to be normal.
  6. +1
    21 December 2017 14: 01
    I'm curious about casting. Cylinder blocks where will they be manufactured (cast)? If in Russia, it’s good, you can teach people. And if in Germany, then in general the next "screwdriver" production, they were and are in Russia.
    1. +2
      21 December 2017 14: 32
      Quote: den3080
      I'm curious about casting. Cylinder blocks where will they be manufactured (cast)? If in Russia, it’s good, you can teach people. And if in Germany, then in general the next "screwdriver" production, they were and are in Russia.

      And learn? I am unfortunately not sure. From time to time I get KAMAZ boxes in my hands (well, like KAMAZ-ZF-Meritor, but made on KAMAZ), and sometimes I take on German ZF. You know, our casting is obscene, the Germans have smooth bodies inside, there is no sand on the surface, silumin without caverns. Okay, at least in size do not crap
      1. +1
        21 December 2017 21: 54
        Quote: faridg7
        Quote: den3080
        I'm curious about casting. Cylinder blocks where will they be manufactured (cast)? If in Russia, it’s good, you can teach people. And if in Germany, then in general the next "screwdriver" production, they were and are in Russia.

        And learn? I am unfortunately not sure. From time to time I get KAMAZ boxes in my hands (well, like KAMAZ-ZF-Meritor, but made on KAMAZ), and sometimes I take on German ZF. You know, our casting is obscene, the Germans have smooth bodies inside, there is no sand on the surface, silumin without caverns. Okay, at least in size do not crap

        It’s nice to read the comments of a competent person and not googly!
        1. +1
          22 December 2017 11: 18
          Thank you, I just blushed everywhere
    2. +2
      21 December 2017 15: 41
      It is already more than 80% localized.
      On the fuel equipment there are still problems on the camshafts. But they are preparing a native supplier.
  7. 0
    21 December 2017 14: 01
    Quote: forester
    Well, they would have written - the Liebherr company sold a license to its Kamaz engine, otherwise they cast a shadow on the wattle fence - they created a pancake. I agree with us, and this project will be ruined as iso-habili "Mercedes Axor" making on its base KAMAZ 5490 (rare rubbish)

    why then, if judging by Dakar, Kamaz has good engines? everything is strange
    I know that before Kamaz MAN ordered a lot of things.
    1. +1
      21 December 2017 14: 33
      On Dakar, see photos of cars, and you will find the inscription "Liebher", because the engines ...
      1. +1
        21 December 2017 15: 07
        Quote: Genry
        On Dakar, see photos of cars, and you will find the inscription "Liebher", because the engines ...

        Yes, like Liebher did not make engines for trucks, it means they "squeezed" us (MAN) from Kamaz.
        next will be the ZF transmission.
        1. 0
          21 December 2017 22: 06
          Quote: 32363
          Quote: Genry
          On Dakar, see photos of cars, and you will find the inscription "Liebher", because the engines ...

          Yes, like Liebher did not make engines for trucks, it means they "squeezed" us (MAN) from Kamaz.
          next will be the ZF transmission.

          Kamaz with MAN didn’t work. MaZ with them mutil Maz-MAN riveted
          1. 0
            22 December 2017 02: 33
            Quote: forester
            Quote: 32363
            Quote: Genry
            On Dakar, see photos of cars, and you will find the inscription "Liebher", because the engines ...

            Yes, like Liebher did not make engines for trucks, it means they "squeezed" us (MAN) from Kamaz.
            next will be the ZF transmission.

            Kamaz with MAN didn’t work. MaZ with them mutil Maz-MAN riveted

            yeah, well, don’t tell me that Yes , dviglo, bridges and other nishtyaki used to stand MANovskie, on those first Kamaz that participated in the rally.
    2. +1
      21 December 2017 16: 02
      TK Liebher was given in 2010. On the 13th, they began to prepare the site for the conveyor. Serial production was promised in the 19th. Maybe they’ll start earlier, judging by the reports.
    3. 0
      21 December 2017 21: 56
      Quote: 32363
      Quote: forester
      Well, they would have written - the Liebherr company sold a license to its Kamaz engine, otherwise they cast a shadow on the wattle fence - they created a pancake. I agree with us, and this project will be ruined as iso-habili "Mercedes Axor" making on its base KAMAZ 5490 (rare rubbish)

      why then, if judging by Dakar, Kamaz has good engines? everything is strange
      I know that before Kamaz MAN ordered a lot of things.

      Kamaz - the master just drives on libherra)))) and before him drove on the Tutaev 238's)))
      1. 0
        22 December 2017 02: 53
        Quote: forester
        Quote: 32363
        Quote: forester
        Well, they would have written - the Liebherr company sold a license to its Kamaz engine, otherwise they cast a shadow on the wattle fence - they created a pancake. I agree with us, and this project will be ruined as iso-habili "Mercedes Axor" making on its base KAMAZ 5490 (rare rubbish)

        why then, if judging by Dakar, Kamaz has good engines? everything is strange
        I know that before Kamaz MAN ordered a lot of things.

        Kamaz - the master just drives on libherra)))) and before him drove on the Tutaev 238's)))

        Liebher produces engines only for construction equipment, for cars the first experience with Kamaz, in Germany this market is already loaded, there are Bavarians, MTU and MAN nearby.
    4. 0
      21 December 2017 22: 09
      KAMAZ didn’t take anything from mana, there were attempts to set the DAF cabin and the “fireplace” engines to stick in (Chinese)
      1. 0
        23 December 2017 04: 17
        Quote: forester
        dviglo, bridges and other nishtyaki used to stand before MANovskie, on those first Kamaz that participated in the rally

        dviglo, bridges and other nishtyaki used to stand before MANovskie, on those first Kamaz that participated in the rally
  8. Hey
    +1
    21 December 2017 14: 20
    Are these engines compatible with old KAMAZ models?
    1. 0
      21 December 2017 14: 34
      No.
      The cab needs another.
    2. 0
      21 December 2017 15: 42
      no, he even has a different piston diameter.
    3. +1
      21 December 2017 20: 44
      Quote: MUD
      Are these engines compatible with old KAMAZ models?

      The author wrote for the KAMAZ model of the K5 generation.
      Something in the design of the radiator is, in my opinion, from the Lexus.
      1. 0
        21 December 2017 22: 11
        Quote: 16112014nk
        Quote: MUD
        Are these engines compatible with old KAMAZ models?

        The author wrote for the KAMAZ model of the K5 generation.
        Something in the design of the radiator is, in my opinion, from the Lexus.

        Slightly modified Mars actress
  9. +6
    21 December 2017 14: 37
    No less remarkable news than getting up from the knees of Yamal with the help of Michelson. German engines begin to be made, respectively, domestic engine production is being cherished. And it makes no difference whether it will be a complete screwdriver or not a complete one. At the slightest hell we will be left without engines. Because the equipment "surpasses analogues."
    1. +1
      21 December 2017 15: 34
      Import substitution yeah game is not rubbed on us utterly.
      1. +4
        21 December 2017 15: 55
        You guys are not here.
        You are closer to the cesspool.
        1. +1
          21 December 2017 16: 17
          There oligarch defenders, advocates attorneys, Michels carriers.
          1. +1
            21 December 2017 21: 11
            Fizmekh graduates are now going to work for burghers, plumbers.
            and then there will be no physical gym.
            burghers for the delivery of plumbers will immediately cook ..
  10. +1
    21 December 2017 15: 01
    it will be like with Siemens: they will put engines on military equipment, and the Germans will drag you, fools, into court for a trunk!
    1. +1
      21 December 2017 15: 59
      Belarusians strongly for the "trunk" pulled for copying Neoplan?
      And, by the way, remind the community how it ended up dragging "for the trunk"? Who is the fools?
      1. 0
        21 December 2017 16: 19
        Who is the fools?

        Iran remained very foolish. With Siemens controllers in gas centrifuges.
        Do we need this to happen with us?
        1. +1
          21 December 2017 19: 00
          Do you understand uranium isotope separation centrifuges? - This is a technique to which these diesel engines, as to Saturn! 1500 revolutions per second and a resource of work more than 30 years - you dreamed! Coming !!!
          1. +1
            21 December 2017 19: 16
            Do you need to understand? If the trucks at full speed will asymptomatically wedge the engine - do you have to wait for this? "Ah this is a virus, these are your Russian hackers!"
            If, in the event of aggravation of relations with Europe, the country remains without trucks, do you have to wait?
            Coming !!!
            Am I rude to you?
            PS That's why all EdR’s agitators, patriots of oligarchs, cannot behave like normal people?
            1. +1
              21 December 2017 21: 20
              Excuse me, from which gadget are you scribbling? Are there glitches often? Throw away. The viruses are there.
              1. 0
                22 December 2017 08: 35
                For those banned in all search engines, for those who have spent a decade in suspended animation, I give a reference
                https://habrahabr.ru/post/105964/
  11. +4
    21 December 2017 17: 29
    Too lazy to look - details about the new Kamaz P6 engine
    The good reputation and not too large requests of the German partner made it possible to consider the Liebherr D946 engine as the basis when choosing a new motor. But do not think that the new P6 is a copy of the German unit. Development was conducted jointlybut with an eye on the D946.

    http://www.kolesa.ru/article/shest-v-ryad-podrobn
    osti-o-novom-dvigatele-kamaz-r6
  12. 0
    21 December 2017 18: 54
    still would have made a diesel engine for gazelles
  13. 0
    21 December 2017 23: 20
    And without libh.ra, KAMAZ no longer steers?!? recourse
    Was it joint cooperation or the fascist introduction of worthless technologies?!? what
    1. 0
      22 December 2017 02: 57
      Quote: keeper03
      And without libh.ra, KAMAZ no longer steers?!? recourse
      Was it joint cooperation or the fascist introduction of worthless technologies?!? what

      Of course fascist, thanks to them Kamaz at the top of the pedestal, learn German.
      Liebherr-Motoren in Kamaz-Trucks überzeugen bei der Rallye Dakar
      https://www.liebherr.com/de/deu/aktuelles/news-pr
      essemitteilungen / detail / liebherr-motoren-in-kamaz
      -trucks-% C3% BCberzeugen-bei-der-rallye-dakar.html
      1. 0
        22 December 2017 07: 15
        KAMAZ takes first place in the Paris-Dakar rally for more than 10 years, and completed work on the P6 engine just now?!? And from what moment libh.r ?! request
  14. 0
    22 December 2017 07: 08
    Quote: APASUS
    although of course there were such moments, it is useless to deny


    We are from Russia and live in Russia!

    And we don’t believe in tales even from kindergarten!
  15. 0
    22 December 2017 07: 36
    Quote: groks
    If, in the event of aggravation of relations with Europe, the country remains without trucks, do you have to wait?

    You are surprised at the rudeness of the “edrosov” and the “servants of the oligarchs,” why are you not surprised at the dense blizzard that you carry in your messages?
    1. 0
      22 December 2017 08: 37
      Link to Stux in a previous post.
      After reading, let's talk about the snowstorm.
      I look forward to it.
  16. 0
    22 December 2017 09: 59
    Quote: groks
    Link to Stux in a previous post.
    After reading, let's talk about the snowstorm.
    I look forward to it.

    Your “Stuks” is a wonderful addition to the snowstorm, it makes it more embossed, convincingly emphasizing its volume with ignorance. Not without the classic "I heard a ring, but don’t know where it is."