The Turks said the parameters of the fifth generation fighter

Turkey is developing a fifth-generation fighter TF-X. The secretary of the country's defense industry reported what requirements he put forward to the designers of a new promising military aircraft. Reported by Defense Aerospace.

Work on the creation of the TF-X has been going on since 2011. The new fighter must replace the outdated F-16 Fighting Falcon and replenish the fleet of new F-35 Lightning II. Initially, the design involved the company Saab. Later BAE Systems from Great Britain joined the project.

Enterprises have already demonstrated three versions of the new fighter with different engines and other technical characteristics. The Turkish Defense Industry Secretariat defined the basic requirements for a new aircraft. It should have two jet engines, capable of flying at a height of more than 16,7 thousands of meters. The speed is about 2,5 thousands of kilometers per hour, the flight range is 1,1 thousands, the wingspan is 12 meters, the aircraft weight is not less than 27,2 tons.

It is assumed that the fighter of the fifth generation TF-X will enter service with the Turkish Air Force after 2030, and will be involved for about forty years.

Comments

[Chertt]

Well, why not the Turks and declare their plans. And until 2030, come again, live. As they say in the east, "By then, either the Sultan will die or the donkey will die."

[Grandfather]

Work on the creation of the TF-X has been ongoing since 2011.

this is normal, the main thing is not to rush ... Russia, with its own experience, can’t finish the T50, but where are they going?

[Alex777]

TTX looks like a T-50. Maybe the sultan after the S-400 will buy the Su-57?

[Berkut24]

Su-57 is quite finished. It remains to test the new engines, but in its present form, it can quite adequately perform. They are not in a hurry because Syria has shown that for less money the Su-35 is still enough.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Dead Day

Russia, in its experience, cannot finish the T50, but where are they going?

Why did you get the idea that Russia cannot “finish off” the SU-57? Everything is going according to plan, they are already testing product 30. Or do you have everything at once with the click of a finger? So go and try to create a world-class fighter yourself, and I'll look at you. I don’t understand, are you expressing your displeasure in this way, or is it just all Russian slag and garbage for you?

[Orionvit]

Quote: Dead Day

and where do they climb?

There they climb, what can you do, imperial ambitions.

[Lexus]

Sultan

[Vitas]

In the meantime, and on this fly! )))

[brick]

Does this pepelats exist except a grafon?

[VRV In]

maybe the mass is not more than 27.2 tons.

[Egorovich]

With this dream, more than one generation of Turks will go to another world.

[Vadim851]

And what about the engines is not clear what they are. Such an aircraft is being built around the engines, I doubt that the Turks will give birth to an engine for the 5th generation by this time.

[askort154]

As far as is known, Turkey does not have its own aircraft industry. In 2015, they entered into joint cooperation with Ukraine in aircraft manufacturing and space exploration. Now the Swedes and the British hang noodles about the fighter of the 5th generation. What are they, “Turks" at all ?!

[NEXUS]

Quote: askort154

As far as is known, Turkey does not have its own aircraft industry.

This is where you can finish. No school, no groundwork, no talented designers ... but there are good animators ...

[Haye]

Maybe animators?
PS I somehow do not even remember Turkish cartoons.

[zivXP]

the mass of the aircraft is not less than 27,2 tons.

And what caused this mass limitation?

[Grandfather]

Quote: zivXP

the mass of the aircraft is not less than 27,2 tons.

And what caused this mass limitation?

the presence of plasticine ...

[zivXP]

In terms of expiration and you need to urgently use something?

[askort154]

Judging by requirements; Flight altitude more - 16,7 Wingspan 12 m, Aircraft mass - not less 27,2 tons, a fake article was written by a Turkish schoolboy.

[Orionvit]

Quote: askort154

The fake article was written by a Turkish schoolboy.

Moreover, the lower grades. But we thought that the basic requirements for fighters are aerobatic features (aerodynamics), modern electronics, weapons, stealth (this is generally a big science). But the Turks, most importantly, it is the dimensions, it’s good that they did not forget about speed.

[zivXP]

It seems the Turks are going to sell their planes by weight

[Berkut24]

TF-X will go into service with the Turkish Air Force after 2030

By this time, the Turks may find that the era of the 6th generation has long come.

[Conductor]

By this time it is possible that there will be no need for pilots.

[igorka357]

And by the year 30 we have enough su-57s, at least forty or so, or we’ll be laughing, but in aviation we are behind by leaps and bounds, not of the Turks, of course, you yourself know from whom! How many ramers have amers, then? like fu-35, they don’t sell for export .. which means the car is very serious .. right now and fu-35 will finish it up .. we’ll laugh, we have 50 fifth-generation su-57s ... and they have about two hundred predators only, and it’s not known how many the 35th there will be .. not counting all the X-47th globals and newts ..! If we take the Russian Air Force and the US Air Force, even without their Navy aviation, we’ll wipe the sky at a time, and therefore we’ll throw our hats .. To work and develop a lot! If we are behind in aviation, it means the first in air defense systems ... but we must admit that in many respects we are not ahead of the rest!

[Berkut24]

otherwise we laugh, but in aviation we are behind by leaps and bounds, not of course from the Turks, you yourself know from whom!

From whom are we lagging behind? F-35 is not possible to finish, in principle, because it has already been designed as a wimp, and F-22 in Syria shied away from our 4th generation. And he, too, cannot be finished by virtue of his engineered inferiority. Distinguish real combat capabilities from a boisterous advertising company. Even experts in the West admit that with a comprehensive assessment of the capabilities of the machines, the Russians made up for the technical gap and have more balanced devices.

[Concept1]

To create a 5th generation airplane, you must first create a 4th generation airplane !!!

[Conductor]

They will not change in detail, countryman)))

[Yngvar]

Then we would immediately take up the 7th generation ...

[gerkost2012]

Che, also a Su-57?

[dubovitsckij.viktor]

Quote: gerkost2012

Che, also a Su-57?

"Hold". Which was born to crawl.

[Conductor]

That is, they immediately, bypassing the stage of developed socialism and the 5th generation))) Ay handsome.

[Aqela]

And what? It sounds incredibly cool!

[Aqela]

Delight! The development period is thirty years. Service life - forty years!

[eburg1234]

They cannot make an engine for a tank, but there ...