Patriot Saudi missile defense system fails to intercept Hussite missile

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The details of today's statement by Saudi Arabia about the allegedly intercepted Hussite ballistic missile launched on Tuesday from Yemen appeared. As stated in his Twittere military journalist Babak Tahwai, missiles of the American Patriot missile defense system, which are in service with Saudi Arabia, could not hit the Hussite missile.

Patriot Saudi missile defense system fails to intercept Hussite missile




According to him, the entire Saudi air defense forces fired five MIM-104C missiles from the Patriot PAC-2 missile defense system on the Burkan 2-H ballistic missile. None of the antimissiles intercepted the Hussite warhead, but the ballistic missile did not reach the target.

Earlier, Saudi media reported that Saudi Arabia was able to repel a Hussite rocket attack on Riyadh.

This is not the first time that the Arabian media writes about an allegedly intercepted Hussite rocket, which in fact simply did not reach the target for any reason. So, in early November, a ballistic missile was also launched from the territory of Yemen in the direction of Riyadh, which was allegedly intercepted by Saudi air defense forces. Hussites, in turn, stated that they were able to hit the target with a rocket.

Later, the media reported that the Saudi air defense forces most likely could not intercept the missile, but it also did not reach the target.

Recall, Saudi Arabia is negotiating with Russia on the supply of C-400, reports "Vzglyad".
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  1. +37
    19 December 2017 18: 27
    Fighting draw! laughing
    1. +5
      19 December 2017 18: 28
      But how much hurry! We are like that.
      Quote: Rusland
      Fighting draw! laughing
      1. +3
        19 December 2017 18: 31
        Arabs are they.
        1. +26
          19 December 2017 18: 45
          Quote: Aristarkh Ludwigovich
          According to him, the entire Saudi air defense forces fired five MIM-104C missiles from the Patriot PAC-2 missile defense system on the Burkan 2-H ballistic missile. None of the antimissiles intercepted the Hussite warhead, but the ballistic missile did not reach the target.

          A Husite rocket simply got lost in the middle of a forest of anti-missiles launched in its direction! Yes
          1. +13
            19 December 2017 18: 55
            Later, the media reported that the Saudi air defense forces most likely could not intercept the missile, but it also did not reach the target.

            It seems like a joke, it was either beaten, or not shot down, then the rocket did not fly, but was there a rocket at all? what
            1. +3
              19 December 2017 19: 24
              And in the age of the Internet and the frantic spread of information.
              1. +2
                19 December 2017 22: 01
                It is good that Jews were not present in this bunch. Otherwise, some wouldn’t shoot, others wouldn’t shoot down, and a gesheft in half hi
            2. 0
              19 December 2017 19: 52
              It seems like a joke, it was either beaten, or not shot down, then the rocket did not fly, but was there a rocket at all?
              For what they fired, the fifth roofing felts intercepted the warhead, the roofing felts self-destructed
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          2. +8
            19 December 2017 19: 16
            Hi Sasha! hi drinks
            Quote: СРЦ П-15
            Husit rocket just got lost

            1. +4
              19 December 2017 19: 25
              Quote: Jedi
              Hi Sasha!

              Hi, Max! hi Now the "highlight" of the American Patriot missile defense system is understandable: they simply fire a "thuja heap" of missile defense so that an enemy missile cannot break through this "wall". lol
              1. +10
                19 December 2017 19: 29
                Yes, that’s how all sorts of Gadi Petrovich’s got lost. belay
              2. +5
                19 December 2017 19: 41
                Quote: СРЦ П-15
                they simply fire a "thuja heap" of anti-ballistic missiles so that an enemy missile cannot break through this "wall".

                This know-how is as old as the world. To protect the Haiphong port in Vietnam when unloading our bulk carriers from the Phantoms, the tactics of the "wall of fire" were used. Just stupidly, at a certain time, our Shilka fired vertically at the sky. And on this chaff, many were sent to the sea! And replacing trunks of shilok is not a problem.
                1. +5
                  19 December 2017 20: 58
                  "To protect the Haiphong port in Vietnam when unloading our bulk carriers from the Phantoms, the tactics of the" wall of fire "were used." ////

                  I'm afraid this is a bike. 1) the Americans did not bomb Soviet ships - there was a special agreement on this. 2) Phantoms did not fly so low that they could be hit by Shilka. If they were shot down, then ZURA or fighters.
                  1. +7
                    19 December 2017 22: 47
                    So the main goal of shilok and other artillery in those years was to squeeze planes to a height.
                  2. +1
                    20 December 2017 00: 10
                    Ships did not bomb. Like the positions of Soviet military advisers. But there were no agreements on warehouses and piers. Father talked about demonstration bombing - in front of a group of advisers who were transported in a truck on the road among the rice fields (there was nowhere to hide, I had to stupidly sit in the back and watched), they transformed the transformer substation, about three hundred or four hundred meters from the truck. The US aircraft pilots worked normally even in the rear of the Viet Cong.
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                  4. 0
                    20 December 2017 12: 36
                    Not certainly in that way. In Vietnam, multilayer air defense was used. The upper layer of air defense systems. middle Shilka and similar weapons, lower small arms. Missiles drove the Phantoms and evil to the lower levels, and there they got machine gun cannon weapons. B52, of course, didn’t go for such maneuvers, bombed from great heights, and there they got air defense systems. Of course, after the first serious losses, the Americans quickly developed and began to use suspended jamming stations, Shriki, etc. EW aids and also changed the tactics of raids and this led to an increased consumption of missiles for each letak, but in general, the multilayer air defense system of Vietnam proved to be justified. The Americans touched the Soviet Union, realizing well that this could lead to an armed conflict with the USSR and the subsequent full-scale World War. SAM and air defense fighters are another matter. They seemed to be considered Vietnamese
              3. +2
                19 December 2017 20: 22
                When F-117 was shot down in Yugoslavia, the communications captain explained to me that the S-125 had a probability of defeat of 0,96 and was supposed to launch two missiles at a target, while the Patriot had a probability of defeat of 0,6.
                1. +6
                  20 December 2017 00: 24
                  You do not need to write nonsense, even if you heard them from a "communications officer" about the air defense system.
                  There is no fixed probability of hitting targets with a missile and never will be. It all depends on the conditions of the shelling. There is a certain average value obtained in polygon conditions. So, for firing targets with the S-75 and S-125 complexes, the probability of a single missile’s hitting a non-maneuvering target was about 0,7. For maneuvering - about 0,6. To increase the probability of destroying the target, two were launched for S-125 and even three for S-75 missiles for one target. As a result, when launching three missiles, the estimated probability of destruction really approached 0,9. But ... as soon as the enemy began to maneuver, the probability tended to 0,3, and in interference, in general, to 0,1. Therefore, the consumption of missiles per 1 downed plane in Vietnam reached 30 in 1967, decreasing to 1969-1970 by 6-8. Depending on the update of technology and application tactics. In Egypt and Libya, 10-12 missiles on a downed plane were the norm. Again, who controlled the equipment, the Vietnamese, the Arabs, or our calculation. The results were very different.
              4. +2
                20 December 2017 00: 04
                Well, I would not swear patriot. We must still consider who was at the helm. That's for sure - Arabs - they are, Arabs. On the other hand, launch a Persian crew missile, it could well reach the target.
                So really - a combat draw. Some could not start as they should, others did not master the correct guidance. The win is all polls, especially Persians and mattresses. Firstly, they received money for weapons, and secondly, they received statistics on combat use. The Saudi people are glad that nothing fell on their heads, the rest of the world is watching the show with bated breath.
            2. +5
              19 December 2017 19: 25
              I could not reach. lol
              1. +12
                19 December 2017 19: 28
                Quote: Going
                I could not reach. lol

                She burst out laughing simply. lol
                1. +6
                  19 December 2017 19: 30
                  The Patriot was impotent or chickened out. laughing
              2. +5
                19 December 2017 19: 30
                And to conduct a stray rocket home, either forces or education was not enough for the American system. wassat
                1. +7
                  19 December 2017 19: 32
                  But I think the brain.
                  1. +6
                    19 December 2017 19: 37
                    But this is an option ... wink what
                    1. +5
                      19 December 2017 19: 40
                      Later, the media reported that the Saudi air defense forces most likely could not intercept the missile, but it also did not reach the target.


                      I tried to understand this for a long time belay lol
                      1. +5
                        19 December 2017 19: 43
                        Victor, do not try to understand this - our mentality is completely different than that of the local ones. Yes bully
                2. +5
                  19 December 2017 19: 45
                  Quote: Jedi
                  Victor, do not try to understand this - our mentality is completely different than that of the local ones. Yes bully


                  But from this it follows that they mutually missed. laughing
                  1. +5
                    19 December 2017 19: 47
                    Quote: Going
                    But from this it follows that they mutually missed.

                    So it is - did not recognize each other ... crying
                    1. +5
                      19 December 2017 19: 49
                      Or walked different roads. lol
                      1. +7
                        19 December 2017 19: 55
                        Here's the trouble: Roly house - Manka is not ... wassat
                3. +4
                  19 December 2017 20: 23
                  Only "totalitarian" missiles are capable of such a good deed laughing
                  1. +4
                    19 December 2017 21: 18
                    Quote: Sargas
                    Only "totalitarian" missiles are capable of such a good deed laughing


                    And I thought their Saudis bribed. lol
        2. +1
          19 December 2017 20: 17
          Quote: Aristarkh Lyudvigovich
          Arabs are they.

          Aristarchus, these are their missiles. There are 6 starts in the video: 0 hits.
      2. +6
        19 December 2017 18: 56
        It’s too early to rejoice, a lot depends on air defense calculations.
        I remember we delivered C-75 to Vietnam, then to the Middle East (And not only C-75). Both the Arabs and the Vietnamese showed orders of magnitude less effective target destruction than Soviet specialists from the same air defense systems. Knowing the Saudi warriors, I can assume that they are terribly crooked, although the factor that the Air Defense Complex itself was disappointing is also quite large.
        1. +6
          19 December 2017 19: 16
          Quote: RASKAT
          I remember we delivered the S-75 to Vietnam, then to the Middle East (And not only the S-75). Both the Arabs and the Vietnamese showed orders of magnitude less effective target destruction than Soviet specialists from the same air defense systems.

          EMNIP, the Vietnamese showed many times more efficiency than the Middle Eastern "specialists". According to the memoirs of those who served in the military base, sometimes, when the marks of targets appeared, the calculations simply ran from the cabins to shelters.
          1. 0
            19 December 2017 21: 01
            Moreover, the “target” was often a decoy to force the radar to activate.
            In which a special "hi" flew in.
            1. +4
              19 December 2017 21: 17
              Quote: voyaka uh
              Moreover, the “target” was often a decoy to force the radar to activate.
              In which a special "hi" flew in.

              as far as I remember, ours got out of this situation by sniffing the radar ON to the pedal, like in a car, and they cut it in periodically, if needed.
              1. +5
                20 December 2017 00: 41
                They screwed a lot of things there. Seachala intermittent inclusion of high, then, when they put in Shriiki automatic guidance on the fixed angular coordinates - developed the Doubler equipment. Roughly speaking, an emitter in the range of CHP, attributed from the CHP itself to a couple of hundred meters. A kind of microwave oven in an armored housing without a front door.
                When a missile was launched in the direction of the missile launcher, the calculation turned off high and turned on the doubler. At first it helped, then the Shriiki learned to let the SNR radiation patterns along the side lobes. The bait went on the horizon, forcing the calculation to turn on the station, but not entering the RFP, and at that time the shock group approached the extremely small sides and launched Shrike by the radiation of the side lobe. Then the doubles began to be deployed around the LRC at 4-5 points, and at five-six km from the anti-aircraft missile systems there was barreled artillery or later MANPADS calculations. In Libya and Egypt, one zrdn covered up to 10-12 MANPADS platoons. So the tactics developed. And from the side of aviation, and from the side of air defense. Now the process is the same
          2. +4
            19 December 2017 21: 01
            I can confirm about the memories - I had a deputy beginning school there as an adviser in the area of ​​air defense, I had a lot to say. drinks
    2. +4
      19 December 2017 18: 29
      Quote: Rusland
      Fighting draw!

      In my opinion 5: 1
      1. +2
        19 December 2017 18: 35
        And in my opinion - 5-2)))
        They didn’t do it, but they didn’t intercept ... friendship won? )))
        1. 0
          19 December 2017 19: 52
          Quote: shvn
          In my opinion 5: 1
          Chertt
          2 shvn Today, 18:35 ↑ New
          And in my opinion - 5-2)))
          They didn’t do it, but they didn’t intercept ... friendship won?

          Almost Argentina-Jamaica 5-0, what a pain ...
      2. 0
        19 December 2017 19: 58
        Judging by that, 5: the 0 rocket was never shot down.
    3. +2
      19 December 2017 18: 50
      God forbid Russia will launch its own! "Caliber" is a simple check and a warning to all the crusaders and Genghis Khan!
    4. 0
      19 December 2017 18: 51
      let them scorch from slingshots, more sense than from rotten "patriots"
      1. +2
        19 December 2017 19: 21
        Quote: sanyadzhan
        let them scorch from slingshots, more sense than from rotten "patriots"

        Well, why from slingshots, soon, as I understand it, from 400 they will shoot wink who will we root for then request
    5. +2
      19 December 2017 22: 51
      So these are variations on the theme of the old Soviet Scuds. they are never precision. It’s always the same with them - they really don’t understand whether they intercepted them or not. On the one hand, it’s like you’ve got it, on the other hand, you’ll do something with a multi-ton fool falling on a ballistic trajectory. Well, she’ll fall somewhere and how to understand, did she intercept her, or did she miss the target for a couple of hundred meters?

      Even during the time of the storm in the desert, this problem was noted.
    6. 0
      19 December 2017 23: 39
      Quote: Rusland
      Fighting draw! laughing

      Let's just say check by battle. Here, not more than a week ago, in Yemen, an Iranian was killed by Saudis very closely associated with Iranian missiles, which apparently are being tested in real combat conditions. Each launch - provides material for working on bugs, which makes missiles more reliable.
  2. +5
    19 December 2017 18: 27
    Let them try from the sling. So it’s cheaper and more familiar to them. Although it is possible to customize ours with both of them and something more decent.
    1. +1
      19 December 2017 18: 32
      Quote: 210ox
      Let them try from the sling.

      And what, the Poles did not change their minds, 3 billion on, it's bullshit to spend
      1. +2
        19 December 2017 18: 36
        And what, do you recommend Psham to buy S-400?
        1. +2
          19 December 2017 20: 25
          Why not?! Why not recommend?!
      2. +2
        19 December 2017 18: 53
        The Poles have a different goal: how to elegantly substitute for the owner laughing
        For, only down, can hope that, in case of conflict, something can help in the confrontation with Russia)
        1. +1
          19 December 2017 20: 27
          They seriously believe that Russia will not attack.
      3. +2
        19 December 2017 18: 54
        The Poles are going to purchase a special combination:
        missiles from the Israeli "Sling of David" and the SLA-radar from the Patriot PAC-3.
        1. +1
          19 December 2017 19: 06
          And what will David do? )))
          1. +2
            19 December 2017 19: 09
            What flies will try to bring down. A new piece, not tested in a combat situation ...
            ICBM just does not hit, the rest -?
        2. +2
          19 December 2017 19: 11
          This type of thong, new ?! lol
          Amers and Israelis must like it))
          To both)
          1. +4
            19 December 2017 19: 13
            The word "combination", suggests, just ..))
          2. 0
            19 December 2017 20: 02
            Do not discredit the flag, with such jokes, in front of Israel wink
      4. +2
        19 December 2017 19: 55
        Quote: Chertt
        The Poles did not change their minds, 3 billion on, this is bullshit to spend

        If only three ... Mattresses put them more than 10 billion, than plunged psheks in shock. The Poles, in turn, want to “drop” the price tag by about 25%, i.e. up to 7,5 billion green money.
        Quote: voyaka uh
        The Poles are going to purchase a special combination:
        missiles from the Israeli "Sling of David" and the SLA-radar from the Patriot PAC-3.

        Well, now they’re sure no one will throw off a cent or an agora. laughing
  3. +3
    19 December 2017 18: 31
    Patriot Saudi missile defense system fails to intercept Hussite missile
    But the missile didn’t hit the target either, so 0-0 ... In our favor. Once the SA thinks about the S-400
    1. +7
      19 December 2017 18: 38
      hi Saudis are not poor, they can afford to buy what they see fit. The political component of S-400 procurement cannot be ruled out either.
      1. +4
        19 December 2017 19: 26
        Any tools still need to be able to use, they have with it not so.
        1. +4
          19 December 2017 19: 38
          But with cunning, everything is normal, as they themselves think.
          1. +4
            19 December 2017 19: 47
            I have the impression that they want to outwit themselves.
            1. +4
              19 December 2017 19: 51
              Too cunning they manage to pile on their own collar with a cap. wink lol
              1. +4
                19 December 2017 19: 56
                I thought only horses could do that.
                1. +4
                  19 December 2017 20: 03
                  You didn’t forget that everything came from proto-cucumbers? laughing
                  1. +4
                    19 December 2017 20: 10
                    That's for sure how I could miss it.
                2. +2
                  19 December 2017 20: 29
                  Mukhomorych was also able.
      2. +2
        19 December 2017 19: 56
        Quote: Jedi
        Saudis are not poor, they can afford to buy what they see fit. The political component of S-400 procurement cannot be ruled out either.

        Iranians are also not beggars, and in addition to the S-300, they will gladly buy the S-400! They need him!
        1. +4
          19 December 2017 20: 03
          Quote: Tol100v
          They need him!

          Undoubtedly. But not the fact that this is no longer whispering. wink
          1. +4
            19 December 2017 20: 34
            They are trying to create their own.
            1. +5
              19 December 2017 20: 43
              They are trying, it would be better if they did not cure themselves out, otherwise until something similar is done, the S-600 will become obsolete.
              1. +4
                19 December 2017 20: 56
                They are proud, they want and we do not mind. lol
                1. +4
                  19 December 2017 21: 01
                  Let them dare, if only it would not work out like the Indians. wink
                  1. +4
                    19 December 2017 21: 19
                    They are very similar in their desire, we will see.
                    1. +4
                      19 December 2017 21: 25
                      At least - Iran doesn’t hang noodles in the USA. Yes
                      1. +4
                        19 December 2017 21: 38
                        This is not just ruled out, and the United States will not even try to jerk, they do not know what we have agreed with Iran.
        2. +2
          19 December 2017 20: 30
          Yes, and for God's sake! Well, our factory will rebuild two additional workshops, they will receive a salary of an extra 1000 Russians ... What's wrong with that ?!
    2. +5
      19 December 2017 21: 06
      In terms of missile consumption, we won - 5: 1. laughing drinks
  4. +2
    19 December 2017 18: 33
    It is necessary to buy more Patriots for the Saudis, maybe then it will help laughing
  5. +2
    19 December 2017 18: 42
    Once again, the mattress weapon was trimmed and trimmed very fluidly. Five shots and everything is empty. And this is the much-praised Patriot. Trump's words about the world's best mattress weapons have not yet been confirmed.
    1. +1
      19 December 2017 18: 46
      But isn’t it a matter of “laying”?
      1. +1
        19 December 2017 19: 04
        Quote: shvn
        But isn’t it a matter of “laying”?

        Yeah) And definitely not in the BABY ...
    2. +12
      19 December 2017 18: 48
      Good evening! hi
      Quote: Egorovich
      Trump's words about the world's best mattress weapons have not yet been confirmed.

      In the US parallel universe, the United States may well be a “superfood”, but in real life they are just bullshit traders at exorbitant prices. And this is not only their weapons.
      1. +3
        19 December 2017 18: 57
        Hello Max! Striped ones can come from a parallel universe, but their weapons look like a bullshit 100%. That invincible tank Abrams, that F -35, that Patriot.
        1. +7
          19 December 2017 19: 10
          Quote: Egorovich
          That invincible tank Abrams, that F -35, that Patriot.

          And these are far from all examples. Fu-22 in Syria showed its failure as a prodigy. And there are a lot of examples of such. Aggressive management - this is why the United States moves its products. How many countries does M-16 or its derivatives have in its coat of arms? What about the AK-47? wink
          1. +4
            19 December 2017 19: 18
            And the best management for the sale of weapons is war, which Syria has shown in all its glory. Even our potential enemies, Saudis and Turks, understood where to buy the best.
            1. +6
              19 December 2017 19: 24
              Quote: Egorovich
              Even our potential enemies, Saudis and Turks, understood where to buy the best.

              Exactly! And that’s better than any ad, isn't it?
              1. +3
                19 December 2017 19: 27
                I totally agree.
                1. +8
                  19 December 2017 19: 53
                  I have long had the opinion that the Americans are throwing mud on Russian weapons only because they are not able to compete honestly from the very beginning. Moreover, they themselves very much use ours. Yes
                  1. +4
                    19 December 2017 20: 15
                    And when did they honestly do what? Wiping off the sale of Russian gas from Geyropa and rubbing its LNG. This is one of the small examples of their incidence.
                    1. +5
                      19 December 2017 20: 21
                      In their defense, Americans can say that this is a bad heredity to blame - not everyone has forgotten from which scum "exceptional" were formed. But they are smart enough to be proud of the Mayflower pioneers. fool How many skunk do not rinse - it will still stinky. sad
                      1. +5
                        19 December 2017 20: 33
                        The fact that they are, their heredity is really to blame. Thieves, murderers, robbers who, hiding from justice in Europe, flooded the whole of America. The gene pool is awful. I agree.
              2. +2
                19 December 2017 20: 41
                No. This is one of the types of advertising itself.
        2. +2
          19 December 2017 19: 20
          For the sake of Patriot, drones shoot down objectivity. And f 35 was not used in a combat situation, but I think in a month, another ... Then we'll see what bullshit and what not. (the pilots will not be regular again)
          1. +4
            19 December 2017 19: 26
            With all due respect to Israeli technology, it’s impossible to make a mega-monster out of a raw airplane using electronics alone.
          2. Ren
            0
            20 December 2017 07: 38
            Quote: Shahno
            And f 35 was not used in a combat situation, but I think in a month, another ... Then we'll see what bullshit and what not. (the pilots will not be regular again)

            Iran? Syria (Hmeimim)? what
            But will the iron dome / sling of David against the Caliber / Iskander / ICBM dojuzhet? feel
    3. +2
      19 December 2017 19: 59
      Quote: Egorovich
      Once again, the mattress weapon was trimmed and trimmed very fluidly. Five shots and everything is empty. And this is the much-praised Patriot. Trump's words about the world's best mattress weapons have not yet been confirmed.

      So there was no “beacon” on the target!
  6. 0
    19 December 2017 18: 53
    recycling however for two
  7. +3
    19 December 2017 19: 01
    What a great news! American weapons bullshit)))) Five missiles did not hit one, which, as it turned out, somehow flew and fell itself)))) And what if the enemy is more solid?)))
    Or maybe these systems are not for missile defense, but for attack, in fact ...
    1. +2
      19 December 2017 19: 17
      Or maybe these systems are not for missile defense, but for attack, in fact ..

      So muddy doubts torment me ...
    2. +1
      19 December 2017 19: 22
      So I thought so, and Aegis as well.
    3. +6
      19 December 2017 21: 23
      In "stagnant times", all air defense systems were designed to use nuclear warheads. Just in case, so to speak laughing Any stick - it's about two ends drinks
  8. +2
    19 December 2017 19: 16
    Somehow, it’s somehow poorly believed that the PATRIOT complex is so bad ... It won’t intercept it, it’s here ... And vice versa, how much they praise the S-400, although everything is ambiguous in the attack on destroyers on the Syrian airfield Either the S-400 was shot down by missiles, or the EW ... More like intentional underestimation of the characteristics of amers ...
    1. +3
      19 December 2017 19: 24
      either S-400 missiles shot down, or EW
      or nobody knocked
      1. +1
        19 December 2017 20: 45
        Chtoli itself did not reach?

        The most intelligible thing I read - the first frigate shot off - they completely cleaned everything down. But when the SU-35 naturally went to the gas station - the second frigate shot out - out of 22 issued (by the second frigate) Tomogavkov approx. 18 flew by.
        1. +1
          19 December 2017 20: 49
          And where did they get that did not fly? According to Konashenkov? He had already lied publicly so many times that there was no faith in him.
  9. 0
    19 December 2017 19: 21
    all American technology seems like a very big fake and a sell comparable to a moon landing filmed at a movie studio
  10. +3
    19 December 2017 19: 21
    If you have spent 5 anti-missiles for such a purpose, how many anti-missiles will you need to intercept Caliber or Iskander missiles? The Macedonian missile is definitely not intercepted, but Caliber, this is a question. But I guess she will not be intercepted.
  11. +2
    19 December 2017 19: 31
    all american technology seems like a very big fake and sell

    I would not be so categorical. Still, their radars with AFAR, GOS missiles, artillery shells, ATGMs, many technologies in the fleet are objectively better than ours. Another question is what we have to oppose.
  12. +2
    19 December 2017 19: 33
    "As war journalist Babak Tahwai claims in his Twittere, the American Patriot missile defense system, which is armed with Saudi Arabia, failed to hit a Husite missile."

    The fools once again happily croak. On Twitter (!) What kind of Babak Tahwai (who are you?) Wrote something there. Critical thinking is shorter. And this is also taking into account the fact that the rocket did not reach the target. So maybe they still shot down?
  13. +1
    19 December 2017 19: 38
    1 million per rocket ..... easier to buy Hussites)))
  14. +4
    19 December 2017 20: 08
    Quote: Chertt
    And what, the Poles did not change their minds, 3 billion on, it's bullshit to spend

    You think so? I had a friend, so he didn’t hit a target from Kalash. What, "Kalash" fig, or does this friend of mine grow out of the wrong place?
    Sorry, but the probability of hitting a ballistic target with one missile in a MIM-104C rocket is 0,4. It is easy to calculate how much anti-missile is needed to hit a BG at least with a probability of 0,95

    Quote: Egorovich
    Once again, the mattress weapon was trimmed and trimmed very fluidly. Five shots and everything is empty. And this is the much-praised Patriot. Trump's words about the world's best mattress weapons have not yet been confirmed.

    Of course, I understand that defending someone else’s weapons is the most necessary thing, but the question is backfill. How many targets did our S-300 complex hit in combat conditions? Or S-400. This is how hehanki and khahanka about the enemy’s weapons. and then when our planes fall under such a blow, we suddenly start yelling, and why so, why no one reported that the enemy’s weapon is not so fig.
    To recall examples from the history of the Great Patriotic War, when they believed that our planes were the very best, and the German ones didn’t stand near, and then they were forced on the donkeys against the Messers? Damn, not an analytical analysis of the topic, but a complete lull ...

    Quote: RASKAT
    It’s too early to rejoice, a lot depends on air defense calculations.
    I remember we delivered C-75 to Vietnam, then to the Middle East (And not only C-75). Both the Arabs and the Vietnamese showed orders of magnitude less effective target destruction than Soviet specialists from the same air defense systems. Knowing the Saudi warriors, I can assume that they are terribly crooked, although the factor that the Air Defense Complex itself was disappointing is also quite large.

    But comrades do not want to know this. The main thing for them is to puff up that the American weapon is crap, but the Russian one. But only this “crappy” patriot has been taking part in hostilities for a quarter of a century, and of the Soviet (Russian) complexes of this class, only the S-75, S-125 and S-200 (rarely enough) were widely used. Neither the S-300, nor the S-400 in the battles have ever been ...
  15. 0
    19 December 2017 20: 36
    Saudi Arabia is in talks with Russia on the supply of C-400

    The comrades from Iran will not forgive us for this ....
  16. +2
    19 December 2017 20: 47
    Tex ... well cho, flies ... Britons began to criticize the Saudis visiting Saudof themselves .... things start to smell like kerosene ... for there were hints about the creation of hunger. like weapons against the rebel and the suffering of people, then this very smells like kerosene ... well, we all know that you and Kada sha kerosene (c) Cat Motya

    Hawa grave cattle)
  17. +5
    19 December 2017 21: 11
    These "patriots" most likely will not be able to intercept even the drunken plumber who goes behind the bubble))
    Seriously, why there were no interceptions of North Korean missiles. AND? Were you afraid?
    1. Ren
      +1
      20 December 2017 07: 43
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      These "patriots" most likely will not be able to intercept even the drunken plumber who goes behind the bubble))

      Drunk Plumber is a maneuvering target! wassat
  18. 0
    19 December 2017 23: 30
    Not a single Russian air defense system in a combat situation shot down an enemy ballistic missile. But untwist another unproven and always laugh much.
    1. +1
      20 December 2017 01: 00
      So the American in a combat setting did not bring down. Those few Scuds struck during the Storm in a glass at the end were no longer ballistic targets. And even then, most of the Scuds did fly to the ground, though the truth was not where they were allowed to, but this is no longer the merit of air defense. I would not begin to evaluate the effectiveness of the Patriots from the Saudi experience. Wrong hands to take into account the results of firing.
    2. +1
      20 December 2017 07: 52
      Then where did 75% of the American Tomahawks released from ships in the Mediterranean Sea in Syria go to? If they fell, then they were afraid of only one type of Russian air defense and did not fly. You can tell this tale to the Americans, they know it better. If Trump himself does not know where they went.
      1. 0
        22 December 2017 12: 51
        And you, my friend from the sect of witnesses to the missing Tomahawks and Donald Cook stunned by the Khibins, will you?
  19. 0
    19 December 2017 23: 38
    The American Patriot missile defense system, the Israeli Iron Dome, are programmed in such a way that they do not intercept missiles that fly past the target ...
    1. +2
      20 December 2017 00: 11
      Quote: alta
      The American Patriot missile defense system, the Israeli Iron Dome, are programmed in such a way that they do not intercept missiles that fly past the target ...

      Again Israeli tales for the Palestinians, and in the first Iraq war, also the Patriot air defense system was programmed to be passive towards the Scuds, such a Jewish cunning plan, wash your legs and go to bed, hang your noodles on Israeli Jews, and not on the ears of gullible members of the forum ...
    2. 0
      20 December 2017 08: 00
      Since Israel - that they cannot cut money, like the Americans, many Jews live and work there. They help Americans get rid of money.
  20. +1
    20 December 2017 00: 22
    That intercepted, then no. As always.
  21. 0
    20 December 2017 04: 37
    Babak Tahwai from twitter arouses little trust in me.
  22. 0
    20 December 2017 07: 36
    American air defense is not intended to deal with air targets, but for sale to its allies. If you don’t take it, they will force it, and you’ll even praise it in your advertisement, it’s a holey sieve.
  23. 0
    20 December 2017 11: 00
    Haha American technology is a dummy. We must capture them right now. They do not work either.
  24. 0
    20 December 2017 11: 05
    The comments on the topic on Twitter are very interesting.
    The target was beating some sort of palace. The Burkan-2 BR warhead hit and exploded in a residential building more than a kilometer from the target.
    The Saudis launched 5 MIM-104C missiles of the PAC-2 complex.
  25. 0
    20 December 2017 11: 39
    In addition: the Burkan-2 rocket hit and exploded in the house of a Saudi artist in Riad.
    Inaccurate hit because the missile was launched at a distance of 50 km more than the maximum for this BR.
  26. 0
    20 December 2017 14: 17
    if 5 to 1 and the result = 0 it is tin! this scrap metal is a golden gift nobody needs the Soviet c75 and it’s better)))
  27. 0
    21 December 2017 08: 24
    A camel, a quiver with arrows, a bow, a curve saber - this is the maximum. Harsh and kosher !!!
  28. 0
    25 December 2017 11: 24
    the Saudis were slightly overpaid for not understanding that.