The government said that the VTsIOM data on 11-percent unemployment in the Russian Federation are wrong

The Ministry of Labor and Social Protection responded to the publication of data from the VTsIOM on the level of unemployment in Russia. Recall that VCIOM He cited statistics on the basis of which unemployment in Russia is about 11%. This is twice the official figures. Such data specialists of the public opinion monitoring service received as a result of a survey of citizens of the country.

The government said that such data is not true, since VTsIOM used "its" method of identifying the number of unemployed. The ministry noted that when calculating the percentage of unemployment, they use both a method for calculating the officially registered unemployed and a survey of the Rosstat population using the methods of the International Labor Organization.

Representatives of the ministry said that VTsIOM may conduct surveys to identify the level of unemployment, but such surveys do not comply with the methodology adopted in world practice.

Recall that over the past few years, the official recognized unemployment rate in Russia is at the level of 5-5,5%. This is interpreted as a low rate among developed and developing countries.

Comments

[Shura Perm]

another socialPODGON for the elections, they say we live well, comrades ... the paper will endure everything ... we have everything on paper and have 40 thousand zp average, but in fact?)))))

[svp67]

Quote: Shura Perm

another socialPODGON

I agree. VTsIOM is closer to the Truth than our Government. It is enough to look at the reports of staff reductions for companies and firms that fall into the open press to understand this ...

[AST507]

VTsIOM has probably forgotten that the elections are coming soon, but they tactfully reminded him of it."The government said that such data is not true.".

[Shurik70]

ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY DONE BY VCIOM ON THE INTERNET, 100% RUSSIANS HAVE COMPUTERS

The English have a proverb: "There is a small lie, there is a big lie and there are statistics"

[Anarchist]

Quote: Shurik70

ACCORDING TO THE SURVEY DONE BY VCIOM ON THE INTERNET, 100% RUSSIANS HAVE COMPUTERS

The English have a proverb: "There is a small lie, there is a big lie and there are statistics"

[Victor N]

We have four computers in our family. So it’s not strange if the number of computers in the country corresponds to the population.

[Anarchist]

In my family everyone has their own computers, Besides who makes money on them. Except me! You probably have mine?

[SPLV]

Quote: Shurik70

The English have a proverb: "There is a small lie, there is a big lie and there are statistics"

Yes Yes! US citizen Samuel Clemens, known worldwide as Mark Twain, wrote proverbs for the British. Only these English as always distorted the words of the writer and appropriated themselves.

[Karakut]

Quote: svp67

I agree. VTsIOM is closer to the Truth,

In general, yes ..! But here the concept of unemployment is vague, most in Russia have temporary jobs, often unofficial ....
All these watches, etc. They will bring Russia to trouble and very cruel! Many have no permanent job and naturally believe in the future of their children ..!
In the USSR, everyone was provided with work, and the shifts are those who are ready to take risks and make money in the North and other construction projects of the Union!
Families collapse, from hopelessness, and these massive races of men on all kinds of construction sites, where deception flourishes and scammers .. They will not bring any good! I feel ..

[In100gram]

Quote: svp67

It is enough to look at reports on staff reductions of companies and firms

I do not know. My acquaintance recently got a job at the post office, although there has recently been a big reduction. Satisfied.

[INVESTOR]

We have official inflation of 5%, and in fact 30%. According to the constitution, medicine is free, but in fact there isn’t even toilet paper in hospitals, shoe covers for money,

[Baloo]

Quote: INVESTOR

no toilet paper in hospitals, shoe covers for money

We have shoe covers for free, even employees are not allowed. And yes, everyone buys paper for himself.
Paid services due to underfunding. Especially at the end of the year noticeably. The hospital plan is lowered according to KZG how much to treat, what average terms. To extend the stats treatment of VK and an expert is called insurance company or MHIF.

[INVESTOR]

The hospital is different, these are the majority in the country https://pikabu.ru/story/rospisi_v_detskoy_gosudar
stvennoy_poliklinike_vyishnego_volochka_5569170

[Baloo]

Quote: INVESTOR

The hospital is different, these are the majority in the country https://pikabu.ru/story/rospisi_v_detskoy_gosudar
stvennoy_poliklinike_vyishnego_volochka_5569170

Depends on the head doctor. We are relatively young, but highly professional. Freely orientated in the work of any department of the 1100 hospital bed. All comments on reports after duty are always to the point. With all the polite. Pros! at the weekend will definitely drop in. We have 4 resuscitation, remembers all patients.
the perinatal center was built so he constantly monitored everything there for the weekend, every day he went in several times, checked. It's expensive to see everything like on a spaceship.

[INVESTOR]

On such people is Russia.

[79807420129]

The government said that the VTsIOM data on 11-percent unemployment in the Russian Federation are wrong

Yes, yes, it’s in the government that everyone is wearing pink glasses, VTsIOM is also mistaken, unemployment is somewhere around 15%

[svp67]

Quote: 79807420129

Yes, yes, it’s in the government that everyone wears pink glasses,

They live in their own invented world, where we do not have poor pensioners, since their pensions are not lower than the minimum subsistence level, where, with GREAT surprise, after ten years of sitting on positions they find out that we can work at an official job and have an income below the poverty level .... But why don’t they live in their "wonderland" there. Moreover, there are all relatives, then all of their own. Aliens are not allowed there.

[79807420129]

Quote: svp67

They live in their own invented world, where we do not have poor pensioners, since their pensions are not lower than the minimum living wage,

Sergei their pensions will envy any hard worker of the highest qualification, but they don’t want to see how ordinary pensioners survive.

Quote: svp67

where they, with HUGE surprise, after ten years of sitting on positions find out that we can work in official jobs and have an income below the poverty level ....

And if they find out then their kondraty is a little lacking, how can this be.

Quote: svp67

Aliens are not allowed there.

And they won’t let them in. Sincerely, Sergey.

[kapitan92]

Quote: 79807420129

any pensioner of the highest qualification will envy their pensions, but they don’t want to see how ordinary pensioners survive.

Who in Russia receives the largest pension in 2017

The study of pensions for officials and deputies of the Russian Federation should begin with the income of the former deputy chairman of the government, who is currently retired - his pension can vary from 50 to 000 rubles. Ministers at the federal level have state aid in the amount of 88 - 000 rubles, depending on the merits in the work.

Despite the fact that pensions are prescribed according to federal documents, they contain former officials on vacation, no one else, like ordinary Russians, deducting their hard-earned money in the regional budget in the form of taxes.

What is the pension of the Russian deputies, it is easy to find out by reading the laws. The Pension Fund determines the provision of ministers and parliamentarians, which depends on the base salary of 81 rubles. It is easy to calculate that state aid reaches 500 rubles, it seems to be not so much. But the bottom line is that the surcharge is 3 times more than the pension itself, in 2017 the premium reaches 4 4000 - 77 000 rubles. In total, 90 rubles come out.

As for the President of the Russian Federation, his pension reached 536 rubles, it is interesting that in 000 V. Putin doubled his earnings immediately - now his salary reaches 2016 rubles. The prime minister can claim the same amount.

http://pensiaexpert.ru/novosti/kakoj-razmer-pensi
iu-deputatov-i-chinovnikov-v-rossii-v-2017-godu.
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[japs]

If you count what actually exists, then it turns out that we have unemployment of 50 percent. able-bodied population. Statistics is the selling girl of the ruling class.
She will output everything that is required.
We have the same thing in Belarus, everyone gets an average salary of 850 rubles (425 cu).
Only some eat cabbage, while others eat meat. And according to statistics, they eat stuffed cabbage.
Lies are already disgusted.

[Victor N]

Encrypted! You can drive the blizzard with impunity.

[Lexus]

Among young people, one in three is either unemployed or lives in casual jobs.

[Vadim237]

We have unemployed officially, but not officially - they plow and live happily at several jobs without paying taxes.

[Bosch]

Mistaken a bit, not 11, but 21.

[Vlad.by]

don't waste time - 101%

[andrej-shironov]

All worry about Russia .....

[210ox]

The country is full of self-employed people. They are officially and not unemployed, just interrupted by random earnings.

[Observer2014]

210ox

The country is full of self-employed people. They are officially and not unemployed, just interrupted by random earnings.

Half of the country lives like that. Also, millions of competitors are imported. Can our government be replaced by guest workers? Less pay will need them to pay.

[210ox]

Well, maybe not half the country, but about 30% of these unemployed people who have no permanent job are hired for various jobs where there is a high probability of fraud and they are not protected by anything. There is a problem ..... for the government, how to take off their last pants for taxes and insurance ..

Quote: Observer2014

210ox

The country is full of self-employed people. They are officially and not unemployed, just interrupted by random earnings.

Half of the country lives like that. Also, millions of competitors are imported. Can our government be replaced by guest workers? Less pay will need them to pay.

[Observer2014]

210ox

Well, maybe not half the country, but about 30% of these unemployed people who have no permanent job are hired for various jobs where there is a high probability of fraud and they are not protected by anything. There is a problem ..... for the government, how to take off their last pants for taxes and insurance ..

Let them try. I prepared a tool for this case.

[Mikhail m]

The tool, it seems, is not Russian-made. Not patriotic. But intelligibly.

[Victor N]

[quote = 210QQ] Well, maybe not half the country, but about 30% of these unemployed people who have no permanent job are hired

And you will talk to such people - they don’t feel any discomfort and don’t really want to strain. Change profession - God forbid! Riding for 5 km is a nightmare .....

[volodya]

Quote: 210ox

The country is full of self-employed people. They are officially and not unemployed, just interrupted by random earnings.

My relative works unofficially with an entrepreneur. He asked "Can I officially" answer "Please, take shape as an entrepreneur and pay taxes yourself," and he receives only nine tons!

[Blackmokona]

In Russia, an unemployed person is a person registered at the labor exchange for a penny. All the rest are working, no matter what

[Svarog]

moreover, it is unlikely to be registered for more than three months. After three refusals of offers, which will be very low-paid, you will be deregistered and voila officially not unemployed)) In our state, like a fraudster, all cards are stained ..

[alexmach]

In fairness, somehow unemployment is considered everywhere in the world. Everywhere official data is understated.

[Monster_Fat]

Come on ... For example, in countries where they really pay unemployment benefits (which are not yet taxed) plus all sorts of nishtyak in the form of "food stamps" there is no sense in hiding that you are unemployed. It’s pointless in Russia to register with the “employment bureau” since they pay such a penniless allowance that it doesn’t even pay for the bus fare to visit it, much less the time spent on visiting this institution, and the vacancies that are offered there are so much " good ", that they are being offered after even illegal Gaster have refused them.

[alexmach]

What does it mean no sense? So the statistics do not spoil and you do not need to pay benefits unless you count a person as unemployed.

For example, no one ever considers part-time people unemployed. That is, if there is at least some kind of side job, at least for a couple of hours a week - you are no longer unemployed. As far as I know, for example, in the country from under the flag of which you write it like this. And the share of part-time people has been growing in recent years all over the world.

[Golovan Jack]

Quote: Svarog

After three refusals of offers, which will be very low paid, you will be deregistered and voila officially not unemployed

Well, I don’t even know ...
The last time I dealt with the exchange was in 2009.
They entered the register after it hit the two of their vacancies and was refused there.
He stood there for 9 (nine, Karl!) Months, regularly wondered if there was anything for me (at least "tasty", at least not very ... eat hotstsa).
It ended up finding a job.
As for the "three sentences and dosvidos" - no, this was not.

[Svarog]

Quote: Golovan Jack

They entered the register after it hit the two of their vacancies and was refused there.

This is as possible)) Actually, they are registered at the beginning, and then you need to run on vacancies, moreover, you need to register on the register no later than two months after the dismissal, otherwise there will be no allowance. So you are either forgotten or invented. In Tatarstan 3 offers and dosvedos. I don’t know about all of Russia. Although the subjects of the Russian Federation must live according to the same laws, everything is possible in our country, especially when you consider that we have two presidents, in Tatarstan the head is still called the president.

[Vard]

They pay 4900 a year, then deregistered and take a walk ...

[Mordvin 3]

Few people see the point of going to the exchange. Everyone is spinning as they can. And for the first time I hear about polls from Rosstat. Where are they held?

[Baloo]

Representatives of the ministry said that VTsIOM may conduct surveys to identify the level of unemployment, but such surveys do not comply with the methodology adopted in world practice.
Recall that over the past few years, the official recognized unemployment rate in Russia is at the level of 5-5,5%. This is interpreted as a low rate among developed and developing countries.

I am not an expert in this topic, I will simply provide the latest data on the upcoming regular job fair in our city: 1 jobs for 4 unemployed. Doctors, engineers and more are required. He who seeks finds work, but how could it be otherwise. Homeless people and literball veterans do not count.
There are drug dispensaries for litrball veterans, you only need to wait 2 weeks and express a desire to be treated. For the homeless there is a center of "mercy", he himself transferred there after the operation. It is necessary that the poor fellow name the last place of registration, then they themselves deal with this issue. And the doctor must conduct an examination of specialists, analyzes and, by agreement, transfer by ambulance with an epicrisis, accompanied by a medical worker. maximum for everything about everything a week. Then they themselves are engaged in the fate of the poor fellow.

[svp67]

Quote: Balu

Doctors, engineers and more on the list are required.

Yes, the trouble is that there are no such specialists on the exchange, there is a less qualified force. Here, Sberbank is now intensively getting rid of employees, and these are mainly young girls ... Well, they still have a chance. What should the old people do?

[Baloo]

Quote: svp67

What should the old people do?

The labor exchange provides an opportunity for young girls and old people to retrain for other professions, as they say. As a matter of fact, I don’t know.

[Victor N]

I did not want to study. And retraining - even more so. Freedom - the will. Now something to complain about - they themselves chose fate.

[Solomon Kane]

What should the old people do?

Smoke bamboo ....
I come to get a job, a personnel officer is a dyed fashion-designer: "men! Well, why did you have two higher educations and were the production manager at a military factory .... You are 48 years old - you are social trash,"
she really wanted to "rihtanut" bread slicer .... and so everywhere,
either paid in warm places, or arrogant relatives, of which there is no measure ...
So I turn the steering wheel for days in a taxi to somehow feed my family ....

[edeligor]

Quote: Balu

Doctors, engineers and more are required.

City of the Sun Machiavelli? Yes, and we have ... No, no, in no case I’m not foolish ... Yamal or a good oil region, maybe. In the middle lane, your commentary is heard as a mockery, or worse, it smacks of eugenics. (I'm talking about lithrobole and homeless people) Sincerely ........

[Anyone]

"City of the sun" wrote Campanella. The rest - I agree.

[Baloo]

Quote: edeligor

In the middle lane, your commentary is heard as a mockery, or worse, it smacks of eugenics. (I'm talking about lithrobole and homeless people

The city on the Volga is called Kazan. A figure from local news yesterday or the day before on the mail.
Homeless people accidentally fell into my ward. By the way, interesting homeless people sometimes get: there is a registration, decently dressed. He rents an apartment, and he wanders around corners and train stations, he drinks money. One of these with the police was put back at the place of registration according to the passport. I really didn’t want to come back.

[edeligor]

Quote: Balu

The city on the Volga is called Kazan.

Greetings from Ulyanovsk! No countryman, national republics like Tatarstan, Bashkiria and Mordovia will not understand us, a slightly different distribution of the pie by Moscow.

[Baloo]

Quote: edeligor

smacks of eugenics. (I'm talking about lithrobole and homeless people)

All the time I ask myself when I see a young clergyman in a foreign car the cost of a two-room apartment, where did it come from? The church could well take care of the unfortunate homeless people. Shelter, warm, feed, give work and shelter. Do you know what homeless people were after the collapse of the USSR? They brought me down from the street by a car. I see that the homeless, but not down, just miserable. It turned out, lieutenant colonel, graduated from our military school. The last place of service is the Caucasus. First evacuated the family. Then he barely got out. How I was left without documents and my family I did not ask. Then one of our local TV channels dealt with his fate. Or one more thing: the watchman at the old cottage. Warrant Officer, last place of service Iserbadzhan. During the evacuation of the unit, he sent his family to Russia. Himself barely got out, the family did not find. Friends were attached as a watchman to a summer house cooperative. So still lives in a hut.

[Alf]

Quote: Balu

The church could well take care of the unfortunate homeless people. Shelter, warm, feed, give work and shelter.

Then you won’t be left for another Mercedes.

[edeligor]

Quote: Balu

The church could well take care of the unfortunate homeless people.

And how do you knock out tears from our compassionate people by sending paid SMS ?! Personally, every time I dial “Welcome” to a short number, my heart just doesn’t stand seeing these unfortunate kids ... In the Kremlin with the Tsar and the government with all the Siluanovs there, conscience never moves !!! But THIS IS THEIR DIRECT DUTY !!!!!

[alexmach]

Doctors, engineers are required

What is required is required, but where do they come from?

[domnich]

Quote: Balu

He who seeks finds work

In our area (Murmansk region) several years ago they decided to carry out a humanitarian mission - to give homeless people passports, to employ, to treat. Homeless flatly refused to change their lifestyle ... As a result, there were simply no homeless people in the visible surroundings; our winters are long and cold. There are, of course, “muddy” figures, but all with a residence permit, a pension (who survived).
There are no problems with work either. Familiar with the Donbass all work and rent housing. But I admit the presence of depressive places in central Russia. On the other hand, you read the news - at the shipyards in the vicinity of St. Petersburg there are not enough workers.

[Alf]

Quote: domnich

On the other hand, you read the news - at the shipyards in the vicinity of St. Petersburg there are not enough workers.

What salaries do they offer? And where to live?

[Dedall]

I, too, naively asked about the vacancies of doctors in Novocherkassk. Since he was a military pensioner, he recognized him by acquaintance. The price tag is as follows: a general practitioner in a hospital - 7628 p., A doctor of a military unit 7628 p. (the head of the first-aid post in the unit - 10000 p.), the therapist in the mental hospital - 6800 p. And for comparison - the rate of an auxiliary worker in the canteen of a military unit - 15000 p. So, our dear Balu, you wrote correctly that you are not an expert in this topic. God grant that you are not affected by job searches through labor exchanges.

[groks]

Yeah. Engineers are needed. Only now I am 53 years old and I already would not need it. Doctors - yes! There is now complete fantasy going on. So what are needed - with that salary and other amenities.
The manager runs to a freshly accepted neurologist and prohibits writing out iv. He fools around - why ?! And the nurses don’t want to do I / O - what for them this responsibility for their money. So come on, write pills, the liver will not fall off from the patient. Do not fall off immediately.

[Baloo]

Quote: groks

The manager runs to a freshly accepted neurologist and prohibits writing out iv. He fools around - why ?! And the nurses don’t want to do I / O - what for them this responsibility for their money. So come on, write pills, don't fall off the liver patient

What kind of manager is he after? Clown, if you can’t put things in order. And then, there are standards and clinical guidelines. How is he going to fight off experts from the insurance company and Foms? implausible. Another question is that tablets are cheaper than injectable drugs.

[groks]

This is not implausible, it is simply true. And just one example. How can he put things in order - what resource should he use for this? Those nurses work almost for nothing, they leave - no one can come in their place. They say they are afraid to do iv, they are afraid to remove the needle, and they are afraid to leave it. They don’t know and are not obliged to take side effects from all drugs, the doctor’s opinion is not up to them, there is no mechanism for resolving this dispute.
And no one will say anything, no "experts." Is the drug prescribed? Yes. Does he have three forms? Three. We have appointed the first of three. What do we want? What are the complaints?
Yes, tablets are usually cheaper, but not always essential. Taking into account the fact that effectiveness depends on the route of administration, it’s not the other way around.

[Baloo]

Quote: groks

They don’t know and are not obliged to take side effects from all drugs, the doctor’s opinion is not up to them, there’s no mechanism for resolving this dispute

Do the sisters know their responsibilities? They read them when they signed an employment contract. That's because of this attitude to DUTIES to professional duty and honor, we all want the best with us, and everything as always. They want to fire one Aesculapius. I ask him how the conflict with the bosses began. So he began to chastise me why not a single operation was on duty (traumatologist). It’s better to operate during the day, and not at night. He doesn’t even know that it hurts (!!!) a person, that’s why you need to operate, if the condition allows. He doesn’t even know the basics: those who are operated on for the first 6 hours have fewer complications, and with some injuries they are more likely to survive.
The pill should be absorbed, how many active principles will come, who knows. Injection is effective after a few minutes, I know for myself experienced with renal colic.
and then. that experts are not fined for violations, again speaks of professionalism and qualifications.

[groks]

What? What a duty, what an honor? Let the state first make a normal salary for them. Or do these concepts apply only to medical staff, but not to officials?
If they are fined, then they will run away completely. Which is planned, apparently.

[SPLV]

Quote: Balu

Do the sisters know their responsibilities? They read them when they signed an employment contract. It is because of this attitude to DUTIES to professional duty and honor that we all want the best, and everything as always.

Eh ... But I had the pleasure to be present in September of this year during a conversation with one district governor with the school manager in the village. The boss gave a breakdown that the manager was obliged to know his whole household, to be able to fix it, and if he couldn’t, then let him seek another job. He talked about official duties for a long time. The supply manager - a woman, according to him, had to fix a collapsed brick chimney of the boiler room. And then the npchalnichek apologized for a long time, asked not to quit - he, the poor, did not know that she worked for half the rate (4 thousands), and no one would ever go to this work again.
This is so, the lyrics. And maybe the prose of life.

[Overlock]

Maybe in Kazan and not like in all of Russia, but what they write, there is a place to be. My daughter, a neurologist, deputy head the doctor forbade prescribing treatment to sick children. His motivation - we don’t need this, for this there are the following stages of patient routing. Our (his) task is to make a diagnosis, any and send to the next stage.
My daughter left this clinic, did not want to vegetate.
It was in Moscow.

[Vard]

We have the same wall on the stock exchange in vacancies ... Salary ... From 2000 ... To 7000 ... Rubles ....

[Sergey53]

The government said that VTsIOM data on 11% of unemployment are erroneous. I agree completely. I think more than 22% and this is the minimum estimate.

[Vadim237]

Unfortunately, there are many loafers in the country - they make up the backbone of the unemployed.

[Million]

And after our first frosts and thaws, our roads became better! By ourselves! Whoever does not believe is the fifth column and a liberalist)

[Sergey53]

Are you sho This is what the liberals say.

[olegator]

Even if the percentage of unemployed is less, there is nothing to be proud of. In the USSR, unemployment was not in principle. Only then no one understood what this really means. And now there is something to compare.

[16112014nk]

Quote: olegator

In the USSR, unemployment was not in principle. Only then no one understood what this really means.

In the late 1970s. I once saw two file cabinets in a police station: a homeless person (well, that’s understandable) and one home office (without a specific job). Both were hammered, as they say, to the eyeballs.

[Altona]

The government does not want to see a single-industry town, a city with a population of less than 100 thousand people. In the Ivanovo, Kostroma, Nizhny Novgorod regions. Yes, even in the frontiers of Moscow near Kashira, the same situation. People by storm take the trains going to megacities. I live in a single-industry town. For 25 years of bourgeois power, everything that has been pupated in terms of industrial production and construction has pupated. As if the occupation administration. Factories dismantled, people dispersed, specialized secondary education destroyed. I work with youth in a homegrown factory, for example. I bring them some new products, their eyes are on fire, they are interested in making, mastering something themselves. Some of them sat in the store with "managers", except sitting out their asses and useless conversations with customers, nothing new. And in industrial production, some kind of movement, the owner allows you to do something for yourself, giving it away as metal, if this is not included in the list of products. This is my subjective opinion, of course, it might be really better somewhere and in someone's hands a sandwich is thicker. But in our city, the work was not so hot as soon as the Soviet power was removed.

[In100gram]

Quote: Altona

the sandwich is thicker

So it was with the Union, the larger the city, the better the average standard of living. Although in rural areas there were exceptions to the rule. So it is happening now. In order to earn money, you need to work. Times are changing, the laws of life are not.

[Baloo]

Quote: In100gram

In order to earn money, you have to work. Times are changing, the laws of life are not.

Bravo! A brief summary of the discussion.

[SPLV]

Quote: In100gram

In order to earn money, you have to work. Times are changing, the laws of life are not.

I apologize in advance if I did not understand the meaning of the statement. But I will say one thing: every week I communicate with people who come in search of work. Unfortunately, I can’t help them, now they themselves are on the verge of survival. But I see one thing - many want and can work, but they know that the state will not help them, therefore they migrate around the country in the hope of the best. And often find. For a while. And then they return home again. See the same hopelessness, and again the same cycle. And production will not develop until the laws of the state allow only resellers to live. Just look at the government statistics.

[Vadim237]

Professionals are needed in production - people with hands and a head will find work.

[Alf]

Quote: Altona

But in our city, the work was not so hot as soon as the Soviet power was removed.

Dear! Yes, you are an old blinkered commie. Ask Vadim237, so he will say how many industries have opened since 2000, several hundred thousand! They are simply from the category of nanotechnologies.
Sorry for the sarcasm.

[Vadim237]

Some of the tens of thousands that they opened — with personnel under 3000 people — will not be doing Soviet-scale large-scale plants with personnel under 20000, now automation has come to the fore, earlier one part, for an automaton, was done on dozens of machines - now all these operations makes one.

[34 region]

Vadim 237, 22:54. This is the store in which you saw such automation? The robot takes the goods, arranges them on the shelves, knocks out checks, washes them, conducts audits and conducts accounting !!! Well, very interress! Where are the buses, taxis, and autopilots!? Of the enterprises that have opened (if they are called the enterprise), I see: shops, hotels, gas stations. What enterprises are opening yet?

[Alf]

Quote: Region 34

What enterprises are opening yet?

Beer houses.

[SNEAKY]

Quote: Sergey53

The government said that VTsIOM data on 11% of unemployment are erroneous. I agree completely. I think more than 22% and this is the minimum estimate.

He. We have everything in Belarus steeper. Officially, the Ministry of Labor is 1%, and as much as 500000 thousand tax for parasites. found out of 4.5mln. workable. Circus!

[Sergey53]

Quote: SNEAKY

.Officially by the Ministry of Labor 1%,

You simply have absentmindedly forgotten to add 1 more. That means 11%.

[Nemesis]

In reality, unemployment in the Russian Federation is higher than 11%, and if you add to this the mess with black salaries, then 90%

[Victor N]

Fantastic picture! And no logic

[Vadim237]

Rather, 40% are black, 60% are white.

[34 region]

Nemesis, 18:11. Or maybe bezpmezditsa or non-payment? Well, or low pay?

[Greenwood]

Oh, so VTsIOM data are erroneous. And suddenly 86% of Putin made a mistake, and he is actually 8,6%.

[begemot20091]

Quote: Balu

Representatives of the ministry said that VTsIOM may conduct surveys to identify the level of unemployment, but such surveys do not comply with the methodology adopted in world practice.
Recall that over the past few years, the official recognized unemployment rate in Russia is at the level of 5-5,5%. This is interpreted as a low rate among developed and developing countries.

I am not an expert in this topic, I will simply provide the latest data on the upcoming regular job fair in our city: 1 jobs for 4 unemployed. Doctors, engineers and more are required. He who seeks finds work, but how could it be otherwise. Homeless people and literball veterans do not count.
There are drug dispensaries for litrball veterans, you only need to wait 2 weeks and express a desire to be treated. For the homeless there is a center of "mercy", he himself transferred there after the operation. It is necessary that the poor fellow name the last place of registration, then they themselves deal with this issue. And the doctor must conduct an examination of specialists, analyzes and, by agreement, transfer by ambulance with an epicrisis, accompanied by a medical worker. maximum for everything about everything a week. Then they themselves are engaged in the fate of the poor fellow.

I would agree with the above if I had not encountered this problem myself. I've been looking for a couple of months .... even in another region - they say the old one. 60 years - experience from the beginning. workshop to the director of the plant. Managers are needed now.

[16112014nk]

The Minister Golodets once said something about 40 million people, for her it is not clear what they are doing.

[Alf]

Quote: 16112014nk

The Minister Golodets once said something about 40 million people, for her it is not clear what they are doing.

Was she talking about officials?

[Victor N]

This, of course, is understandable: Do not pay taxes to the Pension Fund. about demand and resent.

[samarin1969]

Unemployed in the world is a person who does not have a job, looking for work and ready to start work ....
I don’t know how it is on the mainland, but in Crimea there are a lot of professional loafers in 1-2 generations. They are not ready to work for "uncle" in less than 25-30 thousand. I see them every day with the same beer and a thirst for free money. Estimatedly, only such, percent - 20. ... Women and men of Soviet hardening go to pruning orchards, vineyards ... In which category our government classifies these "beer freelancers" I do not know. But the "proud children of capitalism" do not go to the employment service.

[groks]

Sorry - what are they buying beer for?

[samarin1969]

Quote: groks

Sorry - what are they buying beer for?

As one funny character said: "But this is not known to science ..."

[Yuri Guliy]

To you, dear unfortunate samarin1969 I recommend trying to get a job in Sevastopol. After that, your fantasies about "in Crimea are full of professional loafers in 1-2 generations. They are not ready to work for an" uncle "for less than 25-30 thousand."

[Altona]

Quote: begemot20091

I would agree with the above if I had not encountered this problem myself. I've been looking for a couple of months .... even in another region - they say the old one. 60 years - experience from the beginning. workshop to the director of the plant. Managers are needed now.

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For the current government, it is commonplace to write a living person in "human garbage." "Manager", which can not calculate the volume of the foundation, but supposedly knows how to count money. An “engineer” who knows how to build something there in 3D, but does not know how to calculate a design or make it technological. "Director", all of whose powers are regulated by the "management company". The prosecutor’s office, which emphasizes no discrimination in the labor market. I can list for a long time, because thanks to our authorities, it’s not business qualities that are valued, but FIG knows what.

[groks]

Then something collapses. During the pre-trip repair of everything (doors in the ABA with eyes are especially pleasing! And in the toilets with eyes! Even those eyes are outside), gastres were caught, which pulled the heating to the same ABA with a half-inch pipe. Neither they themselves, nor their leader, understood what the claim was - just water through this pipe will flow very quickly ....
Networkers were very pleased - they wanted to hang a bundle of a dozen vituhs on a cable without intermediate supports through the entire building (150m). So he will sag. No, it won’t sag - we’ll drill the end walls and pull it. Do your walls withstand such an effort? And we will do the lining outside. And the walls will not collapse? Shouldn't ... sort of. And who taught them this modernism, and why did he give up to whom at all, could not be determined.

[andrej-shironov]

Zvizdets! The two dreamers of Government and VTsIOM have clashed!

[Sergey53]

On the air? Noted for sure, and without tension.

[andrej-shironov]

Greetings Sergey, yes, so far on air.

[mvbmvbmvb]

This is completely unemployed m. eleven %. And the so-called "skpytaya" unemployment - another 11-20% of the working population \. and even more if you look at the RFP.

[Grim Reaper]

Judging by the number of idle people and traffic jams during working hours - 11% is clearly an understated figure.

[signifera]

Yeah, they’re not experts, they’re wrong. Only specialists see and know how well and richly we live. Salaries are all in white, in terms of dollars at least 3000, the roads are excellent, there are no pits and ruts, there is asphalt everywhere, concrete is extreme, unemployment is 1%, there are plenty of free places in kindergartens and schools, there are full staff in clinics and hospitals, and if you third in line, then you have a gift, you can buy food for a week at 1000r! Well, and so on .... But I'm not an expert, I can’t see it))))) oh yes, I forgot, gasoline is getting cheaper by the ruble every quarter, and the insurance policy is 500 rubles.

[groks]

Not everything is so simple (s). Our Hitler Governor has built up beautiful roads, especially the M-4. There is a feeling that the entire budget of the region was buried there.
And places in schools are growing. I see it in the window. at first I didn’t understand at all what it was doing with my native school and why it began to shine through. It turns out that in the bowels of the Ministry of Education they gave birth to a directive - to transfer all to one shift. Class? Yep class - how reluctant it was to get up in the morning. But where to push the number of students from two shifts? These naughty (in a bad sense) chopped up all the free space in the school for classes! Leaving two-meter corridors. And the walls were replaced with transparent panels, so that it was lighter in the corridors. Something else seems to me that those walls were load-bearing, since there is nothing more to hold the plates. And now teachers need one and a half times more. They cannot be in two classes at the same time. but they will dial hours with only one shift. And so, yes - if they did not double, then they exacted capacity.

[vfqjh]

Who walks a lady, he orders music.

[tank64rus]

They would be better able to fulfill their duties, because they know that “effective managers” are always with us.

[Dead duck]

This is twice the official rate

Similarly, inflation is twice as high as the official one

[Awaz]

in our country, about a third of the able-bodied population works according to gray or black schemes, including the same for wages. It may be officially minimal, but quite good grandmothers get into their hands. My sister works in social welfare and goes nuts that out of 25 children of the wards, a maximum of five really experience difficulties. Other families do not even live very badly. Officially, everyone is unemployed, but she then knows all the families and sees who lives and how. Someone has two cars (not pimped). Someone buys apartments in the regional center .. There is a poor family who built a 200-square-meter capital house ...
In principle, this seems to be their business, but they really use it for free in what we pay in the form of taxes .. Therefore, there is not enough money for all. A third of the able-bodied population is a lot and they are eating too much for what we pay for ..

[16112014nk]

In fact, in Russia the unemployed live much better than those who work. It is enough to read the accident reports. Mercedes, Jaguars and Bentley are driven only by the unemployed. And who works - only on public transport.

[Baloo]

Quote: 16112014nk

In fact, in Russia the unemployed live much better than those who work. It is enough to read the accident reports. Only unemployed people drive Mercedes, Jaguars and Bentley

I am especially touched by the news on the central channels: Maybas were stolen from an unemployed in Moscow. Is this a loped or a scooter?

[Vadim237]

Some of these guys raise their fortunes on exchanges, one acquaintance restores automatic transmission and pushes through the Internet, decent cash from one box is decent - but he, in fact, is unemployed.

[Conductor]

And as another famous character said saving the drowning people is the work of the drowning people themselves.

[LPD17]

surprisingly similar are the ways and mistakes of the present .... and not by the night of the aforementioned Nicky II the Bloody .... to Pskov when will you go?

[alien308]

In the past two years, work has become worse. Several times on the street, men approached, asked for work, despair in their eyes and voice.

[Vadim237]

Most small businesses are thriving - true in the shade.

[Overlock]

Quote: Altona

The government does not want to see a single-industry town, a city with a population of less than 100 thousand people

You know, I think that the government does not want to see anyone and nothing at all. Recently, a surgeon from Omsk got a job at our place. I asked him why for 2.300 km I rushed to the capital, without a wife and children, I left office? The answer is simple: I do not want to live in poverty.
Omsk is a million-plus city!

[Baloo]

Quote: Overlock

I asked him why for 2.300 km I rushed to the capital, without a wife and children, I left the department? The answer is simple: I do not want to live in poverty.
Omsk is a million-plus city!

I believe. We have whole brigades with an ambulance in turn for a couple of weeks go to work in Moscow. They rent an apartment in a fold and as a guest worker. In Moscow, salaries are many times higher, life is more expensive, but it pays for itself. I know the teachers who go to St. Petersburg and Moscow to give lectures.

[Overlock]

Quote: samarin1969

and in Crimea is full of professional loafers in 1-2 generations.

That's right. In small towns, 50% of the population lives like that. Half a city trades, the second half of the city buys from them.

[Overlock]

Quote: Balu

Depends on the head doctor

for sure. So moderately steals. If I stole in full, there wouldn’t be any grandmas

[Overlock]

Quote: 210ox

forced without having a permanent job are hired by various shabashki

half of the village from the Ivanovo region is working as a nurse, after 2 weeks the shift is changing.

[high]

What is the significance of unemployment if rich Russia takes 90th place in terms of living standards next to Laos, Guatemala, Namibia ...
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[Sergey Averchenkov]

Excuse me, I didn’t get there? Is this a "military review"? Or Economic Review?

[edeligor]

Quote: Anyone

"City of the sun" wrote Campanella. The rest - I agree.

Always confused them))))

[Altona]

Quote: In100gram

In order to earn money, you have to work. Times are changing, the laws of life are not.

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In order to work, you need to find a job. Is the circle closed?

[Hariton laptev]

Multiply 11% by 2 and then make a mistake.

[Whowhy]

My wife went to register on the exchange. She was offered two jobs at the devil on the cakes (this is with three children). It should be noted that the salary is slightly higher than the fare (per month). Registration conditions - the administration refuses to accept work in the proposed places. That's all their statistics ...