India upgrades Su-30MKI under BrahMos rockets

The Indian Air Force began putting into service "the fastest supersonic missiles in the world." According to indiatimes.com, Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd (HAL) began work on upgrading Su-30MKI fighters to equip them with the latest BrahMos ALCM missiles.

Rocket BrahMos Air Launched Cruise Missile (ALCM) is one of the modifications of the family BrahMos ammunition. The final tests passed 22 November (the rocket successfully hit a surface target).

During the modernization of the 40 Su-30MKI fighters will be re-equipped to use 2,5-ton cruise missiles. Indian Defense Ministry plans to complete work before 2020 year.

BrahMos is a joint product of the Indian Defense Research and Development Organization (DRDO, Defense Research and Development Organization) and the Russian military-industrial corporation “Scientific and Production Association of Mechanical Engineering”, which organized the BrahMos Aerospace joint venture in 1998. Under the name BrahMos, the company develops and manufactures supersonic rockets capable of accelerating over 3000 km / h. The project is based on the Soviet development of the P-800 "Onyx" (more precisely, its export version - "Yakhont"). BrahMos was originally developed as an anti-ship missile, but later its new versions were created that can hit ground and surface targets, starting from stationary and mobile launchers located on the ground, as well as submarines, ships and aircraft.

Developers call BrahMos air-based missiles "the fastest supersonic cruise missiles in the world." BrahMos ALCM has a warhead weighing about 300 kg and can hit targets at a distance of 290 km, reaching speeds up to 3500 km / h, transmits "Warspot"

Comments

[Berber]

Did the Hindus learn to do something with their hands?

[AVA77]

Yeah children everything else as usual

[Berber]

No, they dance nobly.

[hrych]

Quote: BerBer

No, they dance nobly

Duc Su-30 and aviation Onyx parents Su-30MKI and Bramosa I’m afraid that while the specialists of the NGOs of mechanical engineering and Sukhoi, added a rocket to the plane, the Indians entertained them with fervent songs and dances

[iliitchitch]

Quote: BerBer

Did the Hindus learn to do something with their hands?

Yes, no where. All buy according to the catalog. On the "rafal" here they went bankrupt, BrahMos under their belly yet. And their catalog for some reason has recently been the same, that at sea, that in the air, that on the sinful earth:

[Berber]

The catalog is super.

[Chertt]

The logical move. The Su-30 is the most massive Indian Air Force aircraft, Bramos, the most modern missile. I’m sure that when Russian and Indian experts developed Bramos, the idea of ​​equipping them with Su was laid in the mass-dimensional characteristics of the rocket

[sivuch]

That's just the point, that not really. Do not remember how many years have passed since the first promises to fasten the Brahmos to the Su-30? And now no one is stuttering about hanging them on all the MKI. Those. will reinforce the design (i.e., make it comfortable) these 40 cars

[Chertt]

Quote: sivuch

Do not remember how many years have passed since the first promises to fasten the Brahmos to the Su-30?

Apparently not very much if the final tests were completed less than a month ago, and the decision to modernize 40 Su-30s has already been taken

[sivuch]

How to say, the first promises to create an aviation version were roofing felts in 2007, roofing felts in 2008. And it was assumed - without altering the media.

[Chertt]

Quote: sivuch

the first promises to create an aviation version were roofing felts in 2007, roofing felts in 2008

No one argues that the BrahMos project had difficulties (in my opinion, they even wrote about closing). But in the end it turned out, not a bad rocket at all. Perhaps with modified characteristics

[Evgeniy667b]

Interestingly, the Brahmos are still doing in Orenburg, or the macaques themselves mastered their production ???

[voyaka uh]

The rocket is good, but incredibly heavy in weight. The Soviet heritage is felt.
Missiles of this weight (for comparison) are launched by Americans into space to intercept BR.
Therefore, instead of 4 LRASM missiles, which the small F-35 takes to external
suspensions, a heavy Su-30 fighter can take only one BRAMOS.

[Pivot]

You still compare with exoset. They can even be hung even on corn maize. Brahmos, even after a missile hits it, can inflict a serious kenetic strike on a target, unlike plastic missiles.

[voyaka uh]

The weight of the warhead is the same as that of plastic missiles, that of steel
huge weight. At LRASM almost 50% of the weight of the rocket is the warhead.

[Pivot]

If you studied in the USSR, then in schools you talked about kinetic energy in physics classes. So, a plastic missile has many times less, and if it is used as an anti-ballistic missile, it will crumble in the air, and a metal missile will even break through the ship’s hull without a warhead, such a granite as granite, for example, a short-range defense missile, will not take off course. It seems to be full of yours among physicists, and you write such nonsense, you probably often use Cola hamburgers at McDonald's. You are more careful with this.

[Sergey53]

And what about the performance characteristics?

[voyaka uh]

Brahmos flies faster to the target, LRASM is hardly noticeable for radars.
The lethal action on the ship is about the same for them.

[Sergey53]

Faster means increasing the likelihood of an air defense breakthrough and hitting a target.

[voyaka uh]

More noticeably, it increases the likelihood of a radar hijacking a missile defense ship.

[sivuch]

And what's the difference - at a range of 30-40 km it’s still not stealth for a ship’s radar

[voyaka uh]

But does the ESR of a target affect the confident capture of a target by a radar pointing a missile defense?

[Rushnairfors]

Guys who knows, but on our su30cm this miracle weapon will be installed? According to the characteristics, it seems like a very good rocket ..

[abc_alex]

We are planning an aviation version of the P-800. So far, nothing has been heard about her. As I understand it, the bet is on the X-22 and Tu-22M3 family of missiles. And in my opinion it is much more logical to put such missiles on the Su-34, and not on the Su-30.

[Sergey53]

A hypersound already knock down? And with what probability?

[prosto_rgb]

Quote: Sergey53

A hypersound already knock down? And with what probability?

5-6M regularly knocks down the S-300

[Sergey53]

EPR affects capture.

[sivuch]

On the contrary, this will affect the ability of Hokay to detect, for example, or a radar on a fighter, be it even three times a HEADLIGHT, on the detection range for a GOS missile, if there is an active head. Here, of course, stealth is very important. And in the near zone, if it does, it is extremely insignificant. Moreover, here you’ll have to choose — or fly directly at the target and have a minimum EPR or spin like in a frying pan and substitute the sides.

[abc_alex]

I apologize, but firstly LRASM is not accepted for service, but is only planned in 2018. And the rumpled fate of other state-owned innovations should still wait until the manufacturer announces the price of the finished product. It may turn out differently, they refused the supersonic version of LRASM.

Thirdly, do not be misled: the F-35 does not take LRASM missiles at all. Until this year, only test launches with B1-B and F / A-18E / F were carried out. Both that and another on "light fighters" are not similar.
Thirdly, why do you compare rockets of different classes? Bramos and Onyx are supersonic missiles. Maneuverable supersonic missiles. And both SHIP basing.
LRASM is subsonic cruise missile aviation basing. And by the way, how do you know how much it weighs? So far her TTX has not been published. Its prototype weighs a ton with a small one, but it is without a seeker. And also subsonic.
You would have compared the supersonic and subsonic aircraft and chided the first for size and weight. :)

Well and one more disappointment for you. The payload weight of the Su-30MKI is 8 tons; it can theoretically take 4 two-ton Bramos-A onto the external load. Of course, he won’t take so much, but two can. Placement under the fuselage is not because of the mass, but because of changes in the aerodynamic characteristics of the aircraft. The rocket is really big.

[sivuch]

That's all right, but the Su-27 (and hence the MKI-KSS is the same) is not designed for a suspension of more than 1700 kg per point. So either make Bramos-light or strengthen the structure. Although at the expense of aerodynamics, it’s also true. At one time, the forums on Airforces were disassembled in great detail. if anyone is interested - I can search.

[abc_alex]

And under the plane they hang Bramos-Light. Because it takes so long to fuss with an aircraft missile that it is a remade ship. She has removed the acceleration module, added aerodynamic surfaces and something else, I won’t say for sure.

Regarding the suspension system, here I am not competent, I take your word for it. In principle, I think, if necessary, strengthen the design. But personally, I do not see any reason to suspend even one such missile under the Su-30. This is a fighter. Su-34 is another matter.

[voyaka uh]

"Thirdly, do not be fooled: the F-35 does not take LRASM missiles at all" /////

AGM-158C LRASM

launch platform
F / A-18E / F Super Hornet
B-1B Launch
Mark 41 Vertical Launch System
F-35 Lightning II

The F-35 has 4 external pendants for the AGM-158 JASSM or AGM-158C LRASM cruise missiles

[abc_alex]

I repeat. on f-35 these missiles not even tested. Tests were performed on B1-B and F / A-18E / F, but not on Light. And state developers can say anything. They are already shooting down missiles from Boeing lasers and shooting Reagan from Zumwalt, according to their past statements. There will be tests - there will be a subject of conversation. So far, the facts have only confirmed that the LRASM can be launched from a long-range bomber and a heavy fighter-bomber.

[sivuch]

Indian Su-30MKI fighters will be able to use up to three BrahMos-NG missiles
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/2701093.html
Perhaps the most sensible information

[abc_alex]

BrahMos-NG is generally a new rocket. She is not yet. This is not Bramos-A, this new rocket should be three meters shorter and weighing half the original weight and half a ton lighter than Bramos-A. Her full-size layout was shown only in 2014.

The joint venture BrahMos Aerospace between Russia and India to showcase a full-scale mockup of a new BrahMos-M missile at DEFEXPO-2014 Land, Naval & Internal Homeland Security Systems Exhibition. It is a smaller version of the supersonic cruise missile BrahMos, ITAR-TASS reports with reference to the CEO of BrahMos Aerospace, Dr. A. Sivathanu Pillai.

"We must decrease the weight of the missile in order to integrate it with different platforms, including fifth-generation fighter developed by India in cooperation with Russia," - he noted adding that the fifth-generation fighter and carrier-based MiG-29K / KUB jets will be able to carry two BrahMos-M missiles, while Su-30

Presumably, the missile will have the following dimensions: length - 6 m, diameter - 50 cm. It will have a maximum speed of 3,5 Mach (the current versions of missiles made by BrahMos Aerospace are able to reach the speed of 2.8 Mach). The missile will be able to carry a warhead with a weight of up to 300 kg; its range will be 290 km. The company has already tested two-stage BrahMos-M cruise missile with a length of 10 m and a diameter of 70 cm.

[Mentat]

Well, where is that loach who was peeing in the next branch that Onyx-M does not exist? And he, it turns out, not only exists, but also strikes the target. Another yap that went around made miserable attempts to "sow confusion" and squeaked about plastic mock-ups, deception and universal cutting.

[Mentat]

Quote: sivuch

Do not remember how many years have passed since the first promises to fasten the Brahmos to the Su-30?

The Soviet project of the aviation version of Onyx is several decades old. The fact of the matter is that not promises are needed, but money from the Indians. In the evening money - in the morning chairs.