American Dragon successfully arrived on the ISS

Dragon cargo spacecraft arrived at the International Space Station at the estimated time, the crew successfully seized the ship and proceeded to dock with the station, reports RIA News NASA message.

NASA astronauts Mark Vande Hai and Joseph Aqaba seized the cargo ship with a mechanical manipulator at 13.58 Moscow time. This operation was broadcast live on the website of the space agency.

“The Falcon 9 launch vehicle with the Dragon spacecraft was launched from Cape Canaveral on Friday. After the staffing department, the first stage made a vertical landing not far from the place of its launch, becoming the 20-th saved after the launch of the first stage, ”the message says.

For the first time, NASA specialists used the first stage of the Falcon 9, which was already flying in June of the current year and saved after launch, for shipment to the ISS.

The truck delivered tons of cargo to the orbital station around 2,5. It consists of basic necessities, food and materials for scientific, this time, above all, biological experiments.

It is reported that the ship will remain at the station for about a month, “after which it will return to Earth with waste materials and payload”. To date, Dragon is the only cargo ship capable of delivering cargo both to the ISS and from the station to Earth.

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[colonel manuch]

It's a shame, the Americans are ahead again, and even their reentry vehicles are reusable, something our "effective managers" are not doing the same!

[hrych]

Quote: polkovnik manuch

the Americans are ahead again

And the crew landed in the Union, a new one flew in the Union Reusability - capitalist greed, for which 14 astranauts have already paid with their lives

[Grandfather]

"trampoline" -Rogozin as a gift?

[bulvas]

Quote: Dead Day

"trampoline" -Rogozin as a gift?

As far as I remember, Rogozin mentioned a trampoline in the sense of delivery of astronauts

Now, I think, it’s not far to the astronauts, they’ll test it many times, it will be possible to deliver astronauts if there is enough carrying capacity

In fact, it always has been
First, some rush forward, then others
It is important that we do not lag far behind, and even better - come up with something that no one has.

The Chinese are breathing in the back and not only

[Igor V]

Quote: bulvas

Now, I think, it’s not far to the astronauts, they’ll test it many times, it will be possible to deliver astronauts if there is enough carrying capacity

The Chinese are breathing in the back and not only

If these cosmonauts learn not to breathe and not to cope with their natural needs, then again they will have to turn to Russia for help.
By the way, for reference, 47 years ago, the Soviet space station Luna-16 delivered soil from the Moon to Earth. So what is the Dragon's breakthrough, if more complex operations .. were carried out half a century ago?

[forty-eighth]

That he is cheap

Quote: Igor V

So what's the Dragon's breakthrough

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: bulvas

In fact, it always has been
First, some rush forward, then others

And it has always been that the former leaders will forever become outsiders: Spain, Portugal, Holland, France, etc. ...

[bulvas]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Quote: bulvas

In fact, it always has been
First, some rush forward, then others

And it has always been that the former leaders will forever become outsiders: Spain, Portugal, Holland, France, etc. ...

As will be - see.

Or do not see

[Scalpel]

There is a European Space Agency, the French have their own rockets - not everything is so bad with them.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Scalpel

There is a European Space Agency, the French have their own rockets - not everything is so bad with them.

North Korea also has missiles ... We are talking about leadership ...

[Mih1974]

People on IT? Are you out of your mind? This glove does not have a rescue system on the stratum as on unions (and once it saved the crew for us), the rocket refueling immediately with a payload, that is, with people, and if European Championship - all this takes off with people. There is no mooring system - if something goes wrong - the passengers are dead. Well, you know, I would not dare to fly on such crap.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: hrych

And the crew landed in the Union, a new one flew in the Union Reusability - capitalist greed, for which 14 astranauts have already paid with their lives

It must be remembered that NASA has a contract with Roscosmos for the delivery of astronauts. But when the contract ends, will they renew it? or SpaceX will take over the delivery of the crew (plans, at least NASA and SpaceX have such a fad).

[Blackmokona]

KOROLEV / Moscow Region /, May 24. / TASS /. NASA does not plan to enter into a new contract with Russia for the delivery of American astronauts to the ISS after 2018, since astronauts and astronauts will be able to fly to the ISS on American and Russian ships offsets. This was announced on Tuesday by the deputy head of NASA for manned programs, William Gerstenmeyer.

“Indeed, we have a contract until 2018. After 2018, there is no contract,” he said.

He recalled that to date, two companies in the United States are creating their own spacecraft to deliver astronauts to the ISS.

[Mih1974]

Why should they buy seats for 2018 if they have already "bought" Boeing for them? But by 19, neither the Boeing nor the Space Hu would start working and their boats would not allow people to be transported, only NASA would crawl on its lap.

[sogdy]

Quote: Aleksandr21

. But when the contract ends, will they renew it?

And you do not guess so defiantly, have already renegotiated.

[Blackmokona]

When did you re-sign?

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: sogdy

And you do not guess so defiantly, have already renegotiated.

Honestly, I have not seen the news. I join the BlackMokona question when they re-signed and how much?

[sogdy]

Two weeks ago until 2022. Plus a procurement contract.

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: sogdy

Two weeks ago until 2022. Plus a procurement contract.

Is there a link to the source? the search engine is silent, and NASA does not plan to renew the contract after 2018, but the previous contract until 2019.

[sogdy]

At TASS. And search engines have long been silent about many things.

[Aleksandr21]

FIG knows him, I take my word for it. I would like to read, of course, but neither TASS nor other news agencies for keywords: NASA, Roscosmos 2022 give out anything, that in a normal search, that in the news.

[Letun]

Quote: Aleksandr21

It must be remembered that NASA has a contract with Roscosmos for the delivery of astronauts. But when the contract ends, will they renew it? or SpaceX will take over the delivery of the crew (plans, at least NASA and SpaceX have such a fad).

They have officially announced that they will not. And the contract ends, in my opinion in 2019. Now, after the 19th, we’ll see what the idiots from the sofas will be talking about ...

[sogdy]

NASA or another senator?

[Strips]

Quote: hrych

And the crew landed in the Union, a new one flew in the Union

CST-100 Star line and Dragon V2 will fly in a couple of years

[hrych]

Quote: Tiras

They’ll fly in a couple of years

And in a couple of years they will again land on the moon Kubrick died will be Ridley Scott, the producer will be Harvey Weinstein’s poignant evil. Let’s in fact, how they will catch up with us then and praise for the future is not known, but for now the Russians will pay for the fare and study with the Russians By the way, the Union and Progress have automatic docking, and the lousy Dragon must be caught with a fishing rod

[voyaka uh]

"Let’s in fact, how they will catch up with us then and praise" ////

If "in fact", then long ago caught up, but if ... in the heat
passions, then Russia is far ahead.
Space X made the 17th launch this year - all successful.
Last year was 8.

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

then caught up long ago

There will be a manned flight then and indulge They are not with us, but with the Tuikunauts, and they are ahead

Quote: voyaka uh

all successful

Of course of course Jewish companions do not count
[media = Quote:% 20voyaka uh% 20all% 20successful]

[Professor]

Quote: hrych

There will be a manned flight then and indulge

Then he will make his engine and then indulge.
That will launch a rocket into space then and indulge
Then he will put the first step on a floating platform and then indulge.
That will launch a spaceship then and indulge
Then he will return the spaceship and then indulge.
Here it will launch the same time a second time and then indulge.

While you balak people explore space.

[bulvas]

Quote: professor

While you balak people explore space.

You mess, dear professor

Not even a year had passed before the Americans began to manage to get into space on their own and not yet completely, but only cargo

We, too, do not stand still, and certainly do not "indulge"

[Blackmokona]

Google about the Delta-4 launch vehicle

[Professor]

Quote: bulvas

You mess, dear professor
Not even a year had passed before the Americans began to manage to get into space on their own and not yet completely, but only cargo
We, too, do not stand still, and certainly do not "indulge"

We all play here. The Americans did not stop to independently go out into space (hello Rogozin). I watched the Dragon launch live. There, the project manager announced the list of orders for 2018. On launch almost every week. Here you have a trampoline.

Quote: hrych

And then the Israelis and America? Why are you proud of others? Not your own?

There is one for your own purposes. we do not use your services. And I am proud of technical progress no matter who it is. Confident of success Mask.

Quote: hrych

Secondly, we do not indulge, but we miss the Japanese, Americans, etc. into orbit.

While dragging. In the cargo sector, Mask is no longer in competition. Soon, the manned will also not be.

Quote: hrych

We also deployed a satellite-based positioning, guidance and tracking network to get right into the Professor’s house, at least bring ice cream on time

Not so long ago, your satellites have been deployed in orbit so far less than the bourgeois ones, but I am personally pleased. I have both GPS and Glonas in my watch. By the way, you deployed satellites, but your receivers learned how to do it. Thanks to Quelcom, otherwise nobody would know about Glonass.

Quote: hrych

Humble Shavit, only one-way martyr can run

We have enough. We make satellites ourselves (and even sell them to other bourgeois) and when we need them we get them. But this is not about us, but about the Mask. Well done, he is from all sides.

[bulvas]

Quote: professor

Quote: grunt Secondly, we do not indulge, but weep the Japanese, Americans, etc. into orbit. While dragging. In the cargo sector, Mask is no longer in competition. Soon, the manned will also not be.
...
We all play here.

Professor, you have already given so many predictions and in each we should have disappeared for a long time and we should have been punished and Ukraine should already have begun to flourish

So, stop messing around

Competition is a specific thing, today it is not there, and tomorrow it is necessary to catch up.
Nobody stands still, and our country is working for itself and does not stop in development, but is accelerating in something

And Musk is well done, certainly, but he is not the only one

[Professor]

Quote: bulvas

Professor, you have already given so many predictions and in each we should have disappeared for a long time and we should have been punished and Ukraine should already have begun to flourish

Give a link to at least one such forecast of mine. You are clearly confusing me with someone.

Quote: bulvas

So, stop messing around
Competition is a specific thing, today it is not there, and tomorrow it is necessary to catch up.
Nobody stands still, and our country is working for itself and does not stop in development, but is accelerating in something
And Musk is well done, certainly, but he is not the only one

Mask is fortunately not the only one. Jeff Bezos steps on his heels.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Yah! Any plate, now, in two systems works. I’m telling you this as a surveyor. And most are in GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo, SBAS!
So about "your receivers" you froze some nonsense ...

Stupidity? Here is your receiver. The size of a brick:

But the bourgeois receiver Glonas and GPS. Two in one.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

This data is only for Tesla ...

And what is the place of Tesla connected with SpaceIs?

Quote: AllXVahhaB

On the other hand, about SpaceX ... A private company on government orders ... I can imagine what kind of cut it was ...

Private company. Sawing their own.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: professor

By the way, you deployed satellites, but your receivers learned how to do it. Thanks to Quelcom, otherwise nobody would know about Glonass.

Yah! Any plate, now, in two systems works. I’m telling you this as a surveyor. And most are in GPS, GLONASS, Beidou, Galileo, SBAS!
So about "your receivers" you froze some nonsense ...

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: professor

But this is not about us, but about the Mask. Well done, he is from all sides.

And this Jew says:


Threat. This data is only for Tesla ...
In the third quarter of 2017, the company reported a loss of $ 671 million.
On the other hand, about SpaceX ... A private company on government orders ... I can imagine what kind of cut it was ...
Really well done!

[forty-eighth]

What makes me happy with such couch experts is that like talking about American treasuries, they are ready to explain to everyone and everyone how much it is more profitable to invest in our industry, that they are ready to lay out a business plan and an economic justification. But at the mention of Tesla, they completely discourage the memory of the life cycle of the enterprise.
Surprise, surprise: Tesla is in the investment phase, it is increasing volumes and capacities, the company does not have a goal to generate a cache at this stage, hello!
And for a snack the number of sold Model S and model X quarterly

[Mih1974]

And add such "market" pimenta as - "giving" the Mask and engineers, and specialists and laboratories with test sites and production from NASA. And what is so strange - Patents !!! for a country in which they nearly registered the rights to "rectangular devices" it seems unthinkable "this can never be, because it cannot be." So this is such a "private, private" company that no words.

[sogdy]

Quote: professor

I watched the Dragon launch live. There, the project manager announced the list of orders for 2018. On launch almost every week. Here you have a trampoline.

Israel also launches satellites. Up to 140 km. We call it geodetic probes. Geologists run themselves.
Here about such "launches" was discussed. If cho, the Americans have "space" with 100 km, we have after 300 km.
The difference in the lifespan, and, accordingly, in the weight of the devices. The load at startup is also different, which further increases the weight of the launched device (satellite). And, as it should be self-evident, a completely different electrician and electronics than the devices launched below the ion layer.

[Professor]

Quote: sogdy

Israel also launches satellites. Up to 140 km. We call it geodetic probes. Geologists run themselves.

Come on. Perigee Ofeka 5 km, the climax of 369 km.

Quote: sogdy

Here about such "launches" was discussed. If cho, the Americans have "space" with 100 km, we have after 300 km.
The difference in the lifespan, and, accordingly, in the weight of the devices. The load at startup is also different, which further increases the weight of the launched device (satellite). And, as it should be self-evident, a completely different electrician and electronics than the devices launched below the ion layer.

The altitude of the bourgeois Navstar is 20191 km, Cosmos 2501 19089-19171 km. Well, who flies higher?
However, the service life of the bourgeoisie is higher.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: bulvas

We, too, do not stand still, and certainly do not "indulge"

Achievements in the studio! And then I, like that, except periodically falling missiles, I don’t see anything special. And, well, yes, the cosmodrome finally got bogged down ...

[bulvas]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Quote: bulvas

We, too, do not stand still, and certainly do not "indulge"

Achievements in the studio! And then I, like that, except periodically falling missiles, I don’t see anything special. And, well, yes, the cosmodrome finally got bogged down ...

First grow to Yakubovich, then you will command.
In the meantime, look for yourself.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: bulvas

In the meantime, look for yourself.

That is, are these achievements that you need to look for them? Dismiss Achievements, they are the achievements that everyone has in mind! Type: Sputnik, Squirrel and Strelka, Gagarin, Leonov ... They did not need to be searched and "google" - the whole World was in the know!

[Young_Communist]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Achievements in the studio!

[AllXVahhaB]

Something for three floors is a modest space ... Who is the demotivator concocted? Has he ever had such premises?

[hrych]

And then the Israelis and America? Why are you proud of others? Not your own? Secondly, we do not indulge, but we miss the Japanese, Americans, etc. into orbit. We also deployed a satellite-based positioning, guidance and tracking network to get exactly into the Professor’s house at least bring ice cream on time We are building cosmodromes, building the Angara, helping the Chinese take their first steps. When will we finally wait for the first Jewish launch vehicle with the Jewish glider or the Star (Mogen David) of Death or she will be blown up by the Jedi Luke ̶Sh̶i̶k̶l̶y̶g̶r̶u̶b̶e̶r̶ Skywalker

[Blackmokona]

Jews for a long time in space satellites of their own design bullet on their LV

[hrych]

Humble Shavit, only one-way martyr can run

[Blackmokona]

Oh enlightened a little, congratulations.

[voyaka uh]

Well, turn 19 satellites into submarines in one launch with us
not yet succeeded. We are just learning ...

[hrych]

This applies to you.

Quote: BlackMokona

Can you read?

I’m talking about space stations, not hundred-kilogram satellites, Iran launched these, and North Korea Any ICBM will do better here.

[Blackmokona]

When will we finally wait for the first Jewish launch vehicle

The same

[hrych]

Quote: BlackMokona

The same

Was the punctuation mark?

Quote: hrych

wait for the first Jewish launch vehicle with jewish glider

Glider - shuttle, star fighter, etc. coupled with the Death Star, of course there was only a joke For some reason you got nervous. One way or another, a manned flight to Falcon is far away, and even more so on reused units - a way to destroy astronauts

[sabakina]

Quote: professor

While you balak people explore space.

Professor, and who told you that we are not mastering the parallel universe? AND?...

[asiat_61]

Jews ahead of the rest

[Mih1974]

And they also had a "unparalleled in the World" and the most "democratic" reusable "shuttle" - and are they now? Oh - two out of five were killed by ditching 12 star-bombers, and the rest wrote off “shuttle 2.0” for some reason, why not see it? And to see - a miserable semblance of the Union. . Yes, your dragon can’t even dock his "for scruff of the neck and Kukan" accounts for. but the manipulator breaks down - will you do it?

[Non liberoid Russian]

not tired of licking hosts in every comment? I would write right away - Glory to Americano and the point ...

[hrych]

Quote: voyaka uh

all successful

Extremely successful

[Blackmokona]

This year, all successful, know how to read?

[hrych]

Quote: BlackMokona

This year, all successful, know how to read?

Yes, calm down already, wonderful Falcon

[Blackmokona]

Accident lower than that of Proton

[hrych]

404 launches and 49 failures at Proton-K / M, 50 launches of Falcon-1/9 and 6 unsuccessful. The accident rate is the same, 12%, but Proton has everything behind, and Falcon has everything ahead

[In100gram]

Quote: hrych

By the way, the Union and Progress have automatic docking, and the lousy Dragon must be caught with a fishing rod

And there will be someday that they will not be caught

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: hrych

And the crew landed in the Union, a new one flew in the Union Reusability - capitalist greed, for which 14 astronauts had already paid with their lives

These Unions developed under the Union! Where are the modern developments? As for greed, they heard the slogan: "the economy must be economical"? Or too young?

[Lycan]

Quote: hrych

Reusability - capitalist greed,

Although on the other hand - with proper debugging - IMHO:
a) can also save resources ... for example, strategic "stocks of the first stages"
b) it’s still worthwhile to carefully consider the aforementioned “delivery of cargo from the ISS to the ground”. In the future, for sure (and not "maybe") a transport connection with the orbit (and not only with it) will be formed. I think there is no need to laugh at the United States. Behind this is the future of passenger and freight traffic with space. settlements.
PS: And astronauts have a bright memory.

[Tusv]

Quote: polkovnik manuc

It's a shame, the Americans are ahead again, and even their reentry vehicles are reusable, something our "effective managers" are not doing the same!

Not a fig is not offensive. Their Dragon was supposed to deliver pindonafts, just a year later, it didn’t work, and they use a backward holder, for it’s 75 megabytes for a pind place

[Aleksandr21]

Quote: Tusv

Not a fig is not offensive. Their Dragon was supposed to deliver pindonafts, just a year later, it didn’t work, and they use a backward holder, for it’s 75 megabytes for a pind place

Optimism is not justified in any way, I would also be happy with you for ours, but judging by the latest news, there’s nothing. SpaceX is now successfully delivering cargoes to the ISS, in 2018 it is planned to deliver the crew to the ISS, and in general, it’s as if ours will not be left without space pilots at all, the ISS will be closed in 11-20 years, and during the construction of a new space station, will we find a place? Yes, and NASA will now have good financing under the lunar program, and on Mars they also have well-funded projects, landing on the Moon, Mars (in the distant future) have good chances of success. But at Roskosmos with tight financing .... and without money, the prospects are not very bright.

[slipped]

Pessimism is not justified in any way, in vain you are not happy for ours, judging by the latest news, we successfully launched to the ISS. SpaceX is now launching cargo on the ISS at a price of $ 89 per kilogram, which follows from NASA, and plans to make a profit in the distant future. The ISS should be drowned in 000, since all the warranty periods for its old modules have expired, but there are hotheads who want their casino in orbit, "with blackjack and whores." Therefore, Boeing asked Roscosmos to develop a hermetic adapter for the American segment, so as not to drown him, after undocking from the Russian one. Yes, and NASA has a preliminary agreement with Roscosmos to create a joint Deep Space Gateway. Moreover, our module for this station was registered in the budget as specialized and money will be allocated for its development.

[MadCat]

Quote: slipped

Pessimism is not justified in any way, in vain you are not happy for ours, judging by the latest news, we successfully launched to the ISS.

Roscosmos completely on state support managed to pump contracts for cargo launches, drop a bunch of satellites, NO ONE The research project was not completed successfully. A lot of optimism, just like Rogozin’s trampolines.

[slipped]

all contracts for "cargo" launches are in force, satellites drop other states and private owners, on "research" projects, too, lies, let's give specifics ... but do not go in a chatter

[MadCat]

Quote: slipped

all contracts for "cargo" launches are in force, satellites drop other states and private owners, on "research" projects, too, lies, let's give specifics ... but do not go in a chatter

what specifics will you give? Tell us about waterlogged satellites and interplanetary research programs that ditched all to one? Or that in the “successful” Roscosmos they promised, as always, to “catch up and overtake” the Mask?
Speaking of shipping to the ISS, NASA has not yet renewed the contract ....

[slipped]

or maybe it’s better to talk about 447 successful launches since 2000? Tell us about the work of the constellation of remote sensing satellites? As soon as from the beginning of this year, more than 8,5 thousand images of thermal points were taken by the space monitoring system, and thanks to this it was possible to identify almost 90 thousand thermal anomalies that posed a real threat to 14 thousand settlements? Or the work of creating a long-lived planetary station on Mars? Or a whole series of Luna stations that will be launched almost annually very soon?

And why should we catch up with the Mask if he himself did not catch us at the price per kg ?!

Speaking of transportation, do you know how many space tourists stand in line for flight?

[Tusv]

Quote: Aleksandr2

Optimism is not justified in any way, I would also be happy with you for ours, but judging by the latest news, there’s nothing

.
That's when Says X delivers into orbit, even if only one pindonaft, I will shed tears in three streams

[passerby5]

those in your opinion — will there be a day — will there be food? and how it will not, and we will remain in such a big J. All the same, we need to work before, rather than playing catch-up. they’re used to: whatever we treat, but we will provide

[asiat_61]

About the moon smiled.

[slipped]

a simple question - what should be returned so heavy with the ISS?

[passerby5]

so it’s how many of them there, they eat, you know, they’re shitting))))

[grandson of Perun]

Quote: polkovnik manuch

the Americans are ahead again and even their reentry vehicles are reusable

The descent vehicles they have are ONE-time.
Reusable first steps. The declared sense is to return the first stage and, as a consequence, to increase the launch cost and reduce the maximum output mass - saving powerful engines that the Yankees are in short supply.

[asiat_61]

An iron barrel flew up, which needed to be manipulated, manually docked. Great victory.

[alekc75]

you didn’t hear our “progress” ??? he knows how to deliver the goods and lower the necessary materials back

[slipped]

He can’t let anyone down, because there’s nothing. Previously, a special Rainbow capsule was developed for him, but it was made for a specific program and is now not used. If you need to lower something like that, you can always use the special modification “Soyuz MS” in a cargo-returning version.

[Blackmokona]

Forgot to indicate that Dragon is also used

[Altona]

Quote: polkovnik manuch

It's a shame, the Americans are ahead again, and even their reentry vehicles are reusable

---------------------------
Falcon 9 so far conditionally reusable device. According to Mask himself, the real benefit so far is only 10% of the estimated.

[Pereira]

There is already a question of politics. It will be necessary, they will print more pieces of paper.
Although, they are doing well. In fact, we carry Americans for free. The money that they pay us, Dimon distills back to the United States. Russia does not have a cent from this. So it’s not yet known whether we are paying extra ourselves, for the sake of international show-offs?

[Blackmokona]

According to Mask, the benefit was significantly more than 50%, but the discount to customers is only 10% so far. Since SpaceX has a huge queue of orders.

[SEER]

Quote: BlackMokona

According to Mask the benefit was much more than 50%, but the discount to customers is only 10% so far. Since SpaceX has a huge queue of orders.

here in this place and the dog rummaged. and about 50% of the profits on such a project, etc. from the category of almost impossible. Dear, in the pursuit of the cover of star-striped, you too neglect the logic - is it unfamiliar to you or did you just abuse it?

[Blackmokona]

There was a direct lie about what Musk allegedly said about 10% savings, I pointed to him. Whether or not Mask is lying, everyone decides for himself.

[SEER]

Quote: BlackMokona

There was a direct lie about what Musk allegedly said about 10% savings, I pointed to him. Whether or not Mask is lying, everyone decides for himself.

about 50%, what can you say?

[Blackmokona]

We’ll see that we live who eats the market and who they copy, that was right.
And proof
"SpaceX speaks of more than 50% savings for the company itself compared to building a new rocket. But even without the concept of reusability, the cost of launching the Falcon 9 is very attractive to customers."
https://naked-science.ru/article/hi-tech/eksperty
-ozvuchili-stoimost-spacex

[SEER]

Dear, have you really noticed a couple of points?
1. "According to Mask, the benefit is significantly more than 50%
2. "more than 50% savings for the company itself compared to building a new rocket"
I hope that you are a responsible person and you will understand the difference.
With respect.

[Blackmokona]

Naturally, with what else should they compare? And fuel and other penny consumables, just 0,2 million for launch at 62 million

[sogdy]

Quote: BlackMokona

more than 50% savings for the company itself compared to building a new rocket.

"Rocket" is not only the first step. And burnout ... Our experiments gave slightly different numbers - reuse increases the cost of launch by 10-20%, reducing reliability already at the first launch.

[sir_obs]

With respect to blame, except for losses, nothing has been achieved so far.

[Professor]

Quote: Altona

According to Mask himself, the real benefit so far is only 10% of the estimated.

The reference is not his word pliz.

[Crimean]

Seeker let him find

[Machete]

Cargo Dragon - this is understandable.
A manned crew is a completely different thing.
When will he come?
Do not mind losing the load, but the crew?

[Blackmokona]

In April 2018, the first test flight into space of the passenger Dragon is planned

[Fedorov]

At 100 km feel zero gravity? Well ahead - the wabble defeats evil.

[Blackmokona]

You ship BO and SpaceX do not confuse.
SpaceX has 30 day orbit flight as a test

[Fedorov]

This year, Russia delivered something to the ISS 6 times. Americans - three. There is a difference ?
Not all the guys are gone!
There are problems, but they are treatable. Believe me, he’s sitting somewhere in a Siberian nook such as Shurik with the brains of Korolev, Chelomei .. and quietly scribbles with a pencil the future of astronautics. And if Putin is not re-elected, then the guard will be removed from him.

[Gonchar]

Well, here is the Trampoline. Roundtrip.

[SEER]

Quote: GonChar

Well, here is the Trampoline. Roundtrip.

you forgot to put a smiley. although it’s clear who you are.

[Gonchar]

Quote: SEER

you forgot to put a smiley

Paajalusta, I do not mind. why are you so disrespectful to the statements of your own ministers? AND? So close to February. Pay attention to comrades, that comrade is dissatisfied with quoting another superior comrade. A check? Today he disagrees with the trampoline and will he drink KokaKolu tomorrow?

[SEER]

Quote: GonChar

Quote: SEER

you forgot to put a smiley

Paajalusta, I do not mind. why are you so disrespectful to the statements of your own ministers? AND? So close to February. Pay attention to comrades, that comrade is dissatisfied with quoting another superior comrade. A check? Today he disagrees with the trampoline and will he drink KokaKolu tomorrow?

In the words of the Minister, they ordered at their discretion.
for people with "low social responsibility" I can say - I don’t drink "sosasolu" and other similar though sweet though not sweet drinks - "tea and water - forever."

[sabakina]

- Comrades! Among us there are comrades who are not comrades at all to us!
Hope a subtle hint understood ...

[In100gram]

They are even in Russian, not really. Commentary clutter with each other in underwater language

[Young_Communist]

Quote: In100gram

in underwater language

Is this the language spoken by Rogozin’s satellites?

[Gonchar]

Quote: sabakina

Comrades! Among us there are comrades who are not comrades at all to us

I feel like

[sir_obs]

How much did they deliver our cargo and the cost of transporting 1 kg into orbit in comparison?

[Blackmokona]

The maximum
Our up to 2,5 tons top, down zero.
They are up to 3,31 tons top, down 2,5 tons

In this mission, the Dragon delivered 2,9 tons. The cost of the mission, excluding discounts for BU for Dragon and Falcon-9, is 133 million dollars.

I don’t know exactly how much the Soyuz-Progress bundle costs, I hope someone will tell

[opus]

How much is the Soyuz-Progress bundle

Cargo ships to the ISS display only the Soyuz launch vehicle
Useful load 2500 kg max (in "-", as a rule)
Start-up cost $ 35 (in + usually)
Alles Klaer?

[slipped]

I will tell you))) the cost of delivery of the Dragon to the ISS is $ 89 per kg, MS Progress ~ $ 000 per kg. This is a shipping service of course.

There are also such numbers taken from the procurement site:

Production and supply of Soyuz-2.1a for the Progress MS ship - 1 rubles apiece.

The cost of Soyuz-2.1b services without an upper stage, with the launch of 8350 kg, into orbit 200 km with an inclination of 51,8 degrees ~ 1 rubles.

[Tyulen]

Where is the Buran? No "Buran" rot somewhere.
Prosrali reusable with powerful AI.

[sir_obs]

Buran was built in the image and likeness of the shuttle. And if they listened to Lozinsky, then they would have long flown on other ships like the Spiral.

[Vadim237]

Would fly already on M 19 and Tu 2000.

[opus]

powerful AI?

Where is the firewood from?
If the memory does not change 4-6 modified tank ballistic computers. That's the whole BTsVK.
Threat.
In the visual algorithmic programming and modeling language Dragon "it is not possible to write a shell for AI

[Professor]

The author forgot to report that both the spacecraft and the first stage had already managed to visit space earlier. Offset Mask !!!

[Gonchar]

Quote: professor

Offset Mask !!!

Truly an offset

[sabakina]

GUARD!!! Crazies on IN !!!

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: GonChar

Truly an offset

For me, it is more like a joy about a reused washed condom)))
In principle, it is possible ... But why?

[MadCat]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

For me, it is more like a joy about a reused washed condom)))
In principle, it is possible ... But why?

well, you’re a goddamn thing, hero, how, but forged amers, don’t forget to take a pie from the shelf, and 3 kopecks per message.
Now it’s clear what the future of Russia is unenviable.

[Gonchar]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

the joy of the reused washed condom

Your life, of course, yeah, with such associations ...

[Lycan]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

reused washed condom)))
In principle, it is possible ... But why?

Perhaps this is a step on the path to some kind of cost-effective achievement. Especially if you put these "barrels" and internal heat-resistant elements "on the conveyor stream" - then the benefit can manifest itself noticeably.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Lycan

Perhaps this is a step on the path to some kind of cost-effective achievement. Especially if you put these "barrels" and internal heat-resistant elements "on the conveyor stream" - then the benefit can manifest itself noticeably.

Quote: GonChar

Your life, of course, yeah, with such associations ...

Quote: MadCat

well, you’re a goddamn thing, hero, how, but forged amers, don’t forget to take a pie from the shelf, and 3 kopecks per message.
Now it’s clear what the future of Russia is unenviable.

Eka penetrated I have one question: where is the program now? Space Shuttle about which they made as much noise and fanned fiercely? What did she give for the development of astronautics? What is her legacy? In addition to corpses and sickly expenses. Was it a dead end branch or did it give something? What? Only from an engineering point of view, without demagoguery ...

[Vadim237]

During the operation of the Shuttles - made 135 flights, launched 1600 tons of payloads - the TTRD and the RS 25 engine received a second life on the super-heavy SLS rocket, new materials, design solutions were received when creating the Shuttles.

[Lycan]

Fiercely plus!

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Vadim237

During the operation of the Shuttles - made 135 flights, launched 1600 tons of payloads - the TTRD and the RS 25 engine received a second life on the super-heavy SLS rocket, new materials, design solutions were received when creating the Shuttles.

That is, the exhaust at the exit, for the further development of astronautics, is the same as the lunar program - hang in a frame on the wall ...

[cedar]

"... Today Dragon is the only cargo ship capable of delivering cargo both to the ISS and from the station to Earth ..."

For them, these are seeds ...
For six of their lunar spans, they locked a bunch of stones ...

[SEER]

Quote: cedar

For them, these are seeds ...
For six of their lunar spans, they locked a bunch of stones ...

hde this mono bunch to see?

[Blackmokona]

Lunar Samples Laboratory

Today we, Oleg Skrypochka and me, had an amazing opportunity to get into the lunar soil storage, located on the territory of the Space Center named after Johnson.

https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/83598.html

[SEER]

Quote: BlackMokona

Lunar Samples Laboratory

Today we, Oleg Skrypochka and me, had an amazing opportunity to get into the lunar soil storage, located on the territory of the Space Center named after Johnson.

https://zelenyikot.livejournal.com/83598.html

source from the category of "Syrian Observatory of Human Rights"?
and the official NASA website, what can it say about this? Or again, "rewrite the film"?
as far as I remember, to some the same nasa was transmitting something. it turned out that the petrified wood was passed.

[Blackmokona]

1.https: //curator.jsc.nasa.gov/lunar/lun-fac.cfm
Keep a link to the NASA website and its soil storage unit.
2. Not NASA, but the ambassador, but where did he get the big question.
And so NASA and the USSR gave a sample, this sample is stored in the Cosmonautics Museum at VDNH

[sabakina]

As far as I remember, NASA gave so little that it is even impossible to investigate. And hge the ground?

[Blackmokona]

Ours have researched and written a bunch of scientific papers.
Where the ground has already answered, both transferred and remaining

[asiat_61]

Calm down !!! They flew, and even lied on the moon.

[Vadim237]

Part of this soil settled in private collections - the rest in museums.

[SEER]

Dear, you yourself are not funny?
The state, having spent colossal money, for not very expensive, sold the self-known private owner? And as I understand it, those "private traders" do not give lunar soil for examination?
Museums probably too?
Question about the substitution you, dear just missed?

[Vadim237]

I would have sold them in their place, Lunar soil - yes it will be torn off with hands, even for a lot of money.

[Lycan]

I will tell you more:
Already sold fragments of a meteorite [Chelyabinsk] in weight 6 times more than the meteorite itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIwYlsMHDtA (3:50-3:57)
("Mikhail Zadornov about the Chelyabinsk meteorite")
---------------
Sell ​​you lunar soil? Fresh! Just delivered yesterday. I took it myself - I'm happy! I have a trusted provider.

[opus]

hde this mono bunch to see?

Why do you need this?
Even on the balcony (if suddenly) your lying will not help.
This disease (yo) of the ppl is not treated

[SEER]

thanks for the answer. but, unfortunately, you, my respected man, have fallen to frank insults.

[opus]

Yes, I didn’t "fall"
I accidentally pressed the NTV button on the TV, there "you will not believe"
I’ll go to the vomit.
do not touch the "green cat": I know him.
On the lunar soil, I can send the scoreboard to Excel, everything to the milligram is taken into account, according to the recipients. There is a hundred to stop.
Thanks for the "snake".
Nt about the moon.america.appolons.
This is a diagnosis of kaaaklizm. "Glory to the Ukraine."
Diagnosis is

[opus]

Yes, I’m writing with Andrei, everything can’t get into a letter.
"" - maybe I do not respect myself.
Do not be offended, but the supporters of the lunar conspiracy, I have absolutely no respect.
Shoals of flies, velors, a little kibilchish ... only from my comments corrected as many 8 pieces (and I'm very inattentive and lazy).
No offense, nothing personal.
And you are for me who.
You will ask my younger offspring (rehearsing math, geometry and physics)
Debile ml ** s is the softest and 90% addressed to teachers and authors of textbooks ..
Well, how can the law of conservation of momentum be studied without having studied 1,2,3 Z. Newton and vectors?

[Lycan]

In the Arizona desert.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: cedar

"... Today Dragon is the only cargo ship capable of delivering cargo both to the ISS and from the station to Earth ..."

Do astronauts jump from the station in parachutes?

[opus]

It's about freight !!!
And so there is always a “duty” union:
The crew is evacuated from the ISS on Soyuz spacecraft. 
Partial evacuation has already been several times.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: opus

It's about freight !!!

And will astronauts return without cargo in the Union? Well, yes, that’s why, “purely cargo” is only a dragon - we dump our Progresses with garbage into the ocean. Well, we don’t have such a task - to carry goods from orbit, namely, separately from the astronauts. So what?

[cedar]

Quote: SEER

Quote: cedar

For them, these are seeds ...
For six of their lunar spans, they locked a bunch of stones ...

hde this mono bunch to see?

That on the moon ... Where they took there and returned ... Customs "Good" did not give ...

[SEER]

[quote = cedar] [quote = SEER] [quote = cedar]
For them, these are seeds ...
For six of their lunar spans, they locked a bunch of stones ... [/ quote]
hde this mono bunch to see? [/ quote]
That's what I mean. It seems they took it but didn’t take it ...
Ours that under the "Moon" program took topics and immediately shared. Without too much hype.
And these "radishes", in their words, supposedly having 800 times more, "drove a fool" for more than one year. But, some, having received the “parcel” with “joy,” saw a petrified tree - well, thank you at least not petrified shit - let them rejoice, patsaki ...

[Black5Raven]

Voyager has long gone beyond the limits of the solar system and is still working, various planets are being investigated, new images, data, attempt / landing on a comet, and so on are appearing. Russia has only the role of a taxi driver before the ISS and in comments there is one bragging about “stupid” Americans and a “great” space power without trampolines.

Everything is as usual .

[Vadim237]

Of the promising developments in Russia, only the unmanned spaceship "Hammer" and the nuclear propulsion system, and even then the first is a lot of suspense.

[ghby]

Quote: Vadim237

Of the promising developments in Russia, only the unmanned spaceship "Hammer" and the nuclear propulsion system, and even then the first is a lot of suspense.

The megawatt class nuclear power plant (YaEDU) is a joint project of the group of enterprises that are part of Roskosmos and Rosatom, aimed at creating a megawatt class nuclear power plant. It was designed for a spacecraft with the working name Transport and Energy Module (TEM).

Work on the installation of the installation was started in 2009, the planned completion date is 2018. It is planned to conduct flight tests in 2020.

The lead contractor for nuclear power research is the Federal State Unitary Enterprise “Research Center named after MV Keldysh”. The lead contractor for the reactor installation (RU) is NIKIET, led by general designer Yuri Dragunov.

The aim of the project is to bring Russia to a leading position in the creation of highly efficient energy systems for space applications that can solve a wide range of tasks in space, such as exploring the moon and distant planets with the creation of automatic bases on them.

The design feature is the use of a special coolant - a helium-xenon mixture, a high-temperature gas-cooled fast neutron reactor, pipes made of a molybdenum alloy, uranium of higher enrichment and a temperature in the reactor up to 1500 K, two RUOO reactors for ground tests and RUGK for flight tests .

If this project is being implemented, but it is being implemented, then this will be a breakthrough to which our competitors will stomp and stomp. and Russia will no longer deliver passengers to the ISS, but to the moon and Mars. 1,5 months to Mars and 10 years of operation - these are technologies. Instead of 1,5 years today and one way roads.

So not everything is lost.

[Irokez]

Quote: Black5Raven

Everything is as usual

You forgot to mention Comrade Belarus that the ISS station is served by ours and the basis of the entire company is ours, but unfortunately the foreigners conduct experiments at this station with their modules mainly. This is not quite a convenient sight for us. We are waiting for the Belarusian satellite and the launch vehicle with Belconaut on board.

[Black5Raven]

Quote: Irokez

ISS station is served by our

Oh yes, of course, nobody else is repairing equipment at the station.

Quote: Irokez

and our company’s foundation

Count the number of Russian blocks, and then look at the date of the ISS failure. Soon this will not remain. They have not been able to complete the only module for ten years.

Quote: Irokez

and a launch vehicle with Belconaut on board.

It will be so soon, do not worry. The trends are remarkable in the Russian space industry; more jokes about trampolines are needed.

[anjey]

it's time to create a purely Russian station to create World 2 ..... expensive, but without foreign spies, the station is also used as a dual-use weapon, let them be afraid ....

[Blackmokona]

There is no money, but you hold on. We have already reduced our crew on the ISS from three to two people due to savings

[slipped]

Russian crew will be increased to 3 people in the fall of 2018

[Blackmokona]

This is if oil does not go down again, and oil production in the US is growing briskly

[slipped]

it has nothing to do with oil, it is connected with the launch of the MLM module on December 20

[Blackmokona]

MLM has been postponed again and again, now launch in 2018.
"According to the director general of RSC Energia Vladimir Solntsev, MLM will be ready by the end of 2017, and the launch of the module is scheduled for 2018."
And as for oil, there was always a crew of three and here of the two were prescribed after the price fell.

[slipped]

Why lie? It has been standing at the end of 2 for 2018 years already, just recently the commission confirmed the date - December 20, 2018, the launch. They will focus on him. Now about the crew - it was increased, at one time to three people in 2011, just under the launch, which was later transferred to in 2015, but the launch did not take place due to the fact that the tanks could not be cleaned, the crew They didn’t cut back for a long time, but they recently adopted a new budget for the PCF and decided to save money before launch. This has nothing to do with oil in principle.

[Blackmokona]

Yes Yes. They drove an extra astronaut for more than 6 years.
And then suddenly they began to see.

[slipped]

At the station, no one is superfluous, but here they decided to optimize costs and nothing more.

[Vadim237]

We couldn’t do a system for detecting asteroids and meteorites, after Chelyabinsk in 2013, then they screamed at all that they’d do, and you say about our station, we’re more developed than space, it’s now like a clean circle of interests, with state funding, in which most of the money goes not at all to space.

[Black5Raven]

Quote: anjey

, a purely Russian station to create World 2

They cannot complete one scientific module. Will not work .

[opus]

Today, Dragon is the only cargo ship capable of delivering cargo both to the ISS and from the station to Earth.

Topwar mmmmm
Where do you find clowns (authors)?
"only"?
Forgot chaplak add AMERICAN?
(AND THAT IS NOT ONLY, WHEN THE CROPT IS DEEPLY)

The Antares launcher with the Cygnus cargo ship launched from the US Wallops Space Center in Virginia, NASA website reported.

And what about
-Progress M 11F615A60?
-Progress M-GKM?
-Progress MS?

[Vadim237]

I wonder how much more we will fly at Progress.

[opus]

On progress DO NOT FLY!
goods are delivered and returned (poop cosmonauts including)
On pH, the union will be displayed for another 10 years.
The magnificent seven mlyn edrena louse
$ 35 / withdrawal.
Roscosmos handguns will not be better invented.

[slipped]

Progress is an excellent platform for delivering goods and modules to the station.

[opus]

I, what is against?
I'm talking about the author-deer.
I'm talking about rosskosmos- handed.
To understand this = frets: I’ll tell you about the "union" rn ...
Zaporozhets is the same pudding (at a cost) machine, however?

[slipped]

Your price is wrong, it is even less by at least $ 10 million

[Topgun]

you attacked the author :)) I think in the news he accentuated "so from the station to Earth" (meaning the whole and not in the form of coals) ...
don't progress burn out?
the “swan” burns out like the “progress” so the author is right ...

[opus]

meaning whole and not in the form of coals) ...

Progress returns everything in integrity and safety, incl. and the astronaut’s poop (dried) is not burnt and not wrinkled (a whole ni has been exploring them for 30 years already) + experimental results + blood / urine tests, hair / nails / skin scrapings and used filters, etc., etc.
Dada dirty clothes (partially)
If the memory does not change, something around 2090 kg is returned "as in a pharmacy."

If the author wanted to say something = THAT WOULD SAY.
But he and NK are similar in courses, maybe a journal.

[Topgun]

can you give an example when the couple brought Progress to the earth?
I do not work in the space sector, but I am interested in space and all the time (I don’t even remember where) I knew that they (Progresses) were “landing” in the ocean, and this is the very first link in Google https://www.vesti.ru/doc. html? id = 2912218
I especially didn’t delve into the design of the “progression”, but I always thought that it was logical (why drag parachutes and ceramics with you into space (or how they protect the ship so that it doesn’t burn out), the task is to lift loads to the maximum ...

[opus]

The first launch of the returned ballistic capsule "Raduga" took place in the TGK "Progress-M5" (start 27.09.90/29.11.1990/150, landing 26/5/XNUMX). In spite of the maximum carrying capacity of XNUMX kg, in the first flight the capsule returned to Earth only XNUMX kg of photographic film taken at the "Priroda-XNUMX" photographic complex of the "Mir" orbital complex. The rest of the capsule volume was occupied by telemetry equipment for recording the parameters of the descent of the capsule itself.
In total during the period 1990-1994. nine capsules were put into orbit and returned to Earth (one of them was not found after returning), with the help of which more than 500 kg of materials with research results were delivered from the Mir station to Earth.
========
Shl. I honestly thought it all in motion. But it turned out to be abandoned as the shuttle arrived (and then left).
Then the deer is me.
But if you return the cargo from the ISS (or from the moon), you will drag both the VBC and the ceramics and the parachute system.

[Vard]

We are a poor country ... no one is giving us anything ... like some people are in poverty ... On the contrary, everyone who robs ... But despite all that we saved manned space ... As for American missiles ... they have the flag and a drum around the neck ... The first explosion with the astronauts on board and the program will close ... And it will be ... everyone had it and they will have ...

[MadCat]

Quote: Vard

We are a poor country ... no one is giving us anything ... like some people are in poverty ... On the contrary, everyone who robs ... But despite all that we saved manned space ... As for American missiles ... they have the flag and a drum around the neck ... The first explosion with the astronauts on board and the program will close ... And it will be ... everyone had it and they will have ...

I would hang a drum on the neck of Rogozin, and so they’ll close who and what program? The flow of consciousness with the aim of amers crap around? Think corny.

[AKC]

well done "stupid Americans" I wonder who will now compare the effectiveness of government in the person of Rogozin and the company Mask?
I don’t want to be a predictor, but we are slowly losing space and it’s not that Rogozin is a bad leader, but that the private trader is effective, he makes decisions faster. she’s not afraid of responsibility and the fact that she doesn’t follow the instructions of her superiors, the private trader will also save on costs and not inflate the staff by hiring twenty directors, twenty press secretaries, and other very necessary deputies for the state account.
It is unlikely that the private trader will put engineers on the thieves or arrange his mistresses and children on a thieves post, commentators can describe the cases described by me at almost any enterprise with state participation. I don’t think that the space direction is very different (and on the example of Rogozin’s son, and other officials, you can see what I’m talking about!)
I think. what Mask will be other private companies. which will squeeze the state out of orbit service. only private Russian probably will not be! I hope that I am wrong !!!!

[asiat_61]

Brad. Again, an effective private trader, and not tired of chewing this shit?

[passerby5]

private trader is effective, yes. But NOT with us !!! somehow their effectiveness is from the word economy. perceive literally and economical ... yes yes, salaries and not due to the introduction of advanced technologies ... somehow. but it works according to the doom of relatives and friends. in one he worked, so the water carrier drove, then the member-carrier, then they put him in the general directors. Well, of course, the office gasped under the leadership of such an effect of the manager of_PRIVATE COMPANY. and you say private trader. and such a dime a dozen. in general, as Zhvanetsky says: something like the guys we have is not the right one, the medicine e fights the common cold, but rather cooperates!)))

[Altona]

Quote: professor

The reference is not his word pliz.

http://youinf.ru/vygoda-ot-zapuskov-vozvrashhaemo
j-rakety-falcon-9-byla-slishkom-pereocenena /
I have no Jewish habit of lying, Professor. Secondly, I do not follow the PR and showmen, which is Musk. Thirdly, I have to read what Twitter throws out to me.

[Altona]

Quote: AKC

and the fact that the private trader is effective, he makes decisions faster. she’s not afraid of responsibility and the fact that she doesn’t follow the instructions of her superiors, the private trader will also save on costs and not inflate the staff by hiring twenty directors, twenty press secretaries, and other very necessary deputies for the state account.

-------------
Not true, all major space programs were raised only by the state. The private trader arrogantly takes state achievements, terribly PR, does not invest anything in fundamental science. All projects The mask is a licking of the old NASA designs of the 70-90s. A private person is a predator.

[opus]

All projects The mask is a licking of the old NASA designs of 70-90 years. The private person is predators

SPECIFICLY WHICH?
I detract from the need for a current of idiocy from D. Konanykhin (pasta) ...
And nonsense about the ODE of the lunar module is not necessary.
There are enough deer in the Russian Federation even without a konyakhin.
Ku

[SEER]

users clan "amerigabylanalune" very much. count zayo ...
but someone is doing something.
and deer in the “traveled west” like fleas on a “ball” - you can’t pull a hundred morons to your side with your presence.

[opus]

0

 SEER ↑ Today, 22:05 pm

users clan "amerigabylanalune" very much. count zayo ...

...
My teachings, which forged the country's missile shield (mbr and brppl) the same "clan users"?
Dead, but sorry. But according to their textbooks 1 / 2 of the world is studying.
And not once, from them, did not hear such nonsense.
Shl. And to this day with dick sometimes we drink drunken crusts when they don’t teach THERE ... well I haven’t heard.
True, they are from medicine (genetics / cancer) ... however, they are very smart at 50.
I don’t know about deer. I'm a rocketeer, not a bestiality / political scientist.
It’s better for you to turn to Gordon or Vovka Soloviev: he’s in the know.

[chidoryan]

In general, this is a generally recognized fact. The Americans were on the moon. There is a small percentage of schizophrenics prone to conspiracy theories. There is also a flat earth society. Here you go. Or to the hospital.

[SEER]

don't tell me what to do and I won’t tell you where to go ...

[chidoryan]

Well, do you admit that most sensible people do not dispute the fact that Amers visited the moon? For example, the scientific community, and not the shizany commentators? You just need to understand that it is you who are in the sect. And your author, by the way, is fake. You are soaked in lies and delirium.

[SEER]

Quote: chidoryan

You just need to understand that it is you who are in the sect. And your author, by the way, is fake. You are soaked in lies and delirium.

diagnosis by profile picture ?? Well, which of us is raving?

[chidoryan]

meet on clothes, heard this? And they are escorted in relation to the amers visiting the moon. In this case.

[SEER]

Quote: chidoryan

meet on clothes, heard this? And they are escorted in relation to the amers visiting the moon. In this case.

inna. you don’t understand another.

[chidoryan]

Words not of a boy, but of a husband! (Sarcasm)

[Young_Communist]

Quote: SEER

users clan "amerigabylanalune" very much. count zayo ...
but someone is doing something.
and deer in the “traveled west” like fleas on a “ball” - you can’t pull a hundred morons to your side with your presence.

By the way, why did the Soviet cosmonauts Leonov and Grechko prove that the Americans were on the moon? Are they national traitors?

[VladimirNET]

Quote: polkovnik manuch

the Americans are ahead again and even their reentry vehicles are reusable

To return 20 steps and only start one of them again - is it how much more fuel for this you need to use up ???

PS. As for the Falcon 9 project, everything is ambiguous (launches are too expensive - the state is financing them now), so this is in any case amer’s temporary solution: it’s not for nothing that they are making “attempts” with the release of their engine.
It also seems to me that their astronauts will not fly on it.

[Vadim237]

Along the way, this is just the second first step - repeatedly flying.

[Blackmokona]

Actually fourth

[not main]

voyaka uh,

Quote: voyaka uh

Well, turn 19 satellites into submarines in one launch with us
not yet succeeded. We are just learning ...

And I still did not believe! What are you the most corrupt and envious .... without going personal!

[The Siberian barber]

You can throw guano on the fan as much as you like, but progress is evident. It may not be so fast, not so bright, but it is obvious. Like us or not. For me, it looks brighter against the backdrop of our degradation. We have the courage to admit it! Well, you can’t

[The Siberian barber]

Well, you can’t use, endlessly, the achievements created once upon a time !!
Road going by walking!

[AllXVahhaB]

Today, Dragon is the only cargo ship capable of delivering cargo both to the ISS and from the station to Earth.

Do astronauts jump from the station in parachutes?

[opus]

Loads of emoe! Cargo !!!!!
You still tell about the trampoline

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: opus

Loads of emoe! Cargo !!!!!

What is there for such a cargo flow from orbit that a separate ship is needed ??? Drosophila are not placed in the Union?

[opus]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

What is there for such a cargo flow from orbit that a separate ship is needed ???

experimental results with Aspergillus nidulans.

A new experimental model of promising medical styling (a set of drugs and tools) for emergency care in orbit
(waiting for 2018)

all manufactured high-tech materials and biological products


Scientists grow acetylcholinesterase crystals on the ISS that cannot be synthesized on Earth.

AChE (acetylcholinesterase) enzyme / National Institutes of Health (NIH) project called CounterACT Against Chemical Hazards (CounterACT) aboard SpaceX Dragon-11 capsule /

TsENKI ("Cosmodromes of Russia" _ discusses with partners from Europe and China the issue of using a unique furnace for the production of crystals in space

The most famous was the Russian-European research Matryoshka-R, in which mannequins created at the Institute of Biomedical Problems of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Cologne Institute of Space Medicine were used to determine the absorbed dose of cosmic radiation.

-Set "SPD", consisting of 6 assemblies for placement in the compartments of the CM;
-Set "Phantom", equipped with a set of interchangeable assemblies and pencil cases containing passive detectors;
-Stacking with tools;

seventh detachment of "biotourists" - grape snails

the truth is they are waiting for the return with the unions, they wait a long time


Threat.
Plasma Crystal experiment - results returned to Earth

Special equipment for the experiment burned out along with the Albert Einstein cargo ship and over the Pacific Ocean.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: opus

experimental results with Aspergillus nidulans.

To deliver mold from orbit, do you need a ship with a carrying capacity of more than a ton?
Just like the rest of the ones you listed, it fits into three hundred payloads of the Unions ...
No, I am not against technological progress as such, no matter who it is carried out. Mask has funds - let him try, do ... Well done. Only the hype that this is some kind of breakthrough is excessive. And the corresponding slogans are: "only cargo ship carrying goods from orbit "...

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Quote: AllXVahhaB

To deliver mold from orbit, do you need a ship with a carrying capacity of more than a ton?

Today 100 gram mold ...
And tomorrow it will take a ton or two crystals, matrices or something else.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Just like the rest of the above you fit into three hundred payloads of the Unions

Unions fly MUCH less often than freight

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Only the hype that this is some kind of breakthrough is excessive. And the slogans are appropriate: "the only cargo ship carrying cargo from orbit" ..

1. Well, then we often "have no analogs in the world"
2.On the account "the only ones" I pointed out to the author

Quote: opus

Topwar mmmmm
Where do you find clowns (authors)?
"only"?
Forgot chaplak add AMERICAN?
(AND THAT IS NOT ONLY, WHEN THE CROPT IS DEEPLY)

[AllXVahhaB]

Professor,

Quote: professor

Stupidity? Here is your receiver. The size of a brick:
But the bourgeois receiver Glonas and GPS. Two in one.

You do not understand what I mean? Let me explain: sculpting bricks is not a noble cause! We create TECHNOLOGY! But the “iron” under it let the bourgeois artisans rivet - even with a brick, even with a horseshoe for a flea!

Quote: professor

And what is the place of Tesla connected with SpaceIs?

I thought you were kissed by the Great Mask ... Wrong?

Quote: professor

Private company. Sawing their own.

I beg you Well, do we not know where the main gesheft

[Professor]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

You do not understand what I mean? Let me explain: sculpting bricks is not a noble cause! We create TECHNOLOGY! But the “iron” under it let the bourgeois artisans rivet - even with a brick, even with a horseshoe for a flea!

What technology? Like bourgeoisie created satellite navigation ... What are you talking about?

Quote: AllXVahhaB

I thought you were kissed by the Great Mask ... Wrong?

Ah .... Well then, let's talk about Pai Pal. Musk is like everywhere Musk. You can also about Solar City. But here again I can’t understand what is the financial connection of these companies?

Quote: AllXVahhaB

I beg you, do we not know where the main gesheft

No, I don’t know where the main gesheft is. I don’t steal from my own family (not that I would also steal from others). But when I need money, then I just take it from the family budget until it runs out. So is Musk. His company, and do you think he is stealing from himself? Do you have such information? Then you can immediately contact the US Department of the Treasury. A multi-million dollar prize is guaranteed. I understand that
a) You will not be lofty moral principles and will not knock on the Mask (although your lofty moral principles do not interfere with public slander on him)
b) You are already a millionaire and a dozen million more bonuses to you.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: professor

But when I need money, then I just take it from the family budget until it runs out. So is Musk. His company and in your opinion he is stealing from himself?

What interesting is he "family budget")))
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-sub
sidies-20150531-story.html # page =

Quote: professor

You can also about Solar City.

Can. And about solar bonds possible ... The largest buyer of which, incidentally, is SpaceX
And the fact that money from state contracts SpaceX are used to help other companies Mask also means nothing? So, a trifle?
If everything burns out for him, then of course a trifle - they will write off ... But only history shows that all such pyramids end up with one ... In the meantime, it is pumped up at the expense of the government’s money. And it doesn’t matter whether he pushes Chinese batteries into his Tesla mobiles or returns a couple of “capsules” from orbit - the essence is one ...
To you to chew? Or do you already understand what a gesheft is?
Threat. Although this, after all, is your personal business on whom to fap)))

[Professor]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

What an interesting “family budget” he has))))
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-hy-musk-sub
sidies-20150531-story.html # page =

You are neglecting my intelligentsia.
On a smaller scale, SpaceX, Musk's rocket company, cut a deal for about $ 20 million in economic development subsidies from Texas to construct a launch facility there. (Separate from incentives, SpaceX has won more than $ 5.5 billion in government contracts from NASA and the US Air Force.)
You do not confuse government subsidies with government orders. He receives orders, carries out launches and what he does with his money is his business. There is no cut.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Can. And about the "solar bonds" you can ... The largest buyer of which, incidentally, is SpaceX

I won’t be surprised that Space X employees drive a Tesla car. This is normal. Space X is a private company, it buys from anyone it wants. There are no conflicting interests.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

And the fact that money from state contracts SpaceX are used to help other companies Mask also means nothing? So, a trifle?

Private company. His money. Maybe even for yachts, even for women to spend.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

If everything burns out for him, then of course a trifle - they will write off ... But only history shows that all such pyramids end up with one ... In the meantime, it is pumped up at the expense of the government’s money. And it doesn’t matter whether he pushes Chinese batteries into his Tesla mobiles or returns a couple of “capsules” from orbit - the essence is one ...

Again. His company, and do you think he is stealing from himself? Do you have such information? Then you can immediately contact the US Department of the Treasury. A multi-million dollar prize is guaranteed. I understand that
a) You will not be lofty moral principles and will not knock on the Mask (although your lofty moral principles do not interfere with public slander on him)
b) You are already a millionaire and a dozen million more bonuses to you.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

We create TECHNOLOGY!

We return to TECHNOLOGIES. Musk created the technology for re-applying the first stage and now you are trying to copy it.

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Quote: professor

You do not confuse government subsidies with government orders. He receives orders, carries out launches and what he does with his money is his business. There is no cut.

You are naive as a student))) What does the subsidy have to do with it? Just on government orders the main money is made! And the main budget cut is there!

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I won’t be surprised that Space X employees drive a Tesla car. This is normal. Space X is a private company, it buys from anyone it wants. There are no conflicting interests.

This is not about a conflict of interests, but about artificial inflation ...

Quote: professor

Private company. His money. Maybe even for yachts, even for women to spend.

Comment above ...

Quote: professor

Again. His company, and do you think he is stealing from himself?

You do not understand the meaning of what I wrote?

Quote: professor

Back to the TECHNOLOGY. Musk created the technology for re-applying the first stage and now you are trying to copy it.

More detail ...

[Professor]

Quote: AllXVahhaB

You are naive as a student))) What does the subsidy have to do with it? Just on government orders, the bulk of the money is being made! And the main budget cut is there!

Money for fish again? Musk received a government order of $ 5 billion. He received the money and did not launch? Maybe he has bumped up the price for his services? no? Then where is the cut?

Quote: AllXVahhaB

This is not about a conflict of interests, but about artificial inflation ...

One company buys goods from another at market (not overpriced) prices. What is artificial about this?

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Quote: professor
Private company. His money. Maybe even for yachts, even for women to spend.
Comment above ...

Again. He will buy whatever he wants for his private money. Everything is fair.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

You do not understand the meaning of what I wrote?

No. I don’t understand how you can steal from yourself while paying all taxes. Teach pliz, and then already got 50% of the salary income.

Quote: AllXVahhaB

Quote: professor
Back to the TECHNOLOGY. Musk created the technology for re-applying the first stage and now you are trying to copy it.
More detail ...

http://www.interfax.ru/russia/515880
Roscosmos will develop the return first stage of the launch vehicle
According to him, the Russian engineers were not inspired by the experience of Elon Mask, the founder of SpaceX, who puts the first stages of the Falcon 9 rocket on a barge in the Atlantic Ocean - Khrunichev designs a “winged” first stage that can return to the cosmodrome as an airplane and board the take-off landing strip.

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For the pyramid, the space sphere is the most difficult - an impossible task for a con man, a con man doesn’t like to work, rockets, engines and space trucks do it, it’s clearly not for MMM to create and fake papers.

[AllXVahhaB]

Quote: Vadim237

an impossible task for a swindler, a swindler doesn’t like to work, rockets, engines and space trucks do

So he himself does not create anything. NASA experts work for him ...

[Vadim237]

Yes, that's just NASA, 6000 people working on SpaceX are not included.