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Putin's press conference as a hint of a new course

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In order to evaluate and correctly understand everything that was said as answers to questions at the presidential press conference, it is probably worth listening to it more than once. Two at least, and yes even divided into blocks, since there were enough jumps from side to side.


Putin's press conference as a hint of a new course


All questions could be divided into three categories: external, internal problems of the regions and elections.

We will not touch the third block, everything is clear here. Putin will win the election, whether he comes from the party or by himself. Another question is what will happen in the next six years.

This is the hottest question, and here's why. Unfortunately, Russia depends on external problems no less than on internal ones. World prices for oil and gas, currency jumps, government contracts and wars, sanctions - all this is reflected in the internal life of the country, and there is no escape from it.

2017 year goes away after two significant events. The first is the end of the operation in Syria, the second is the slap in the face with the Olympics, which the West has given us. And each of these events will have a natural continuation, and both of them are completely interconnected.

The Olympic plush showed that one cannot count on a calm and peaceful coexistence with the West. Beat will be wherever you can hit. And there is no particular difference between the non-admission (and even tolerance on humiliating conditions) on the Olympic political games and the breakdown of the pipeline construction. They are still beating Russia, so all the methods and methods are good here.

The methods are dirty. All the less facts and evidence, all the frantic propaganda. And the process is on the rise, starting with the 2014 year.

Fully warped civil war in Ukraine, non-recognition of the Crimean referendum, Russian troops in Donbas, “Boeing” shot down by anyone (Russia, of course), Russian hackers in Washington and in the US presidential elections and in general, Russian hackers and FSB agents everywhere, if not izovrat Syrian merit, then assign them, sanctions, sanctions and more sanctions.

Well, as a crown - doping disgrace.

And no requirements, no conditions. And this is not necessary. Need complete and unconditional surrender.

And all the cards are dealt. Except one, which also beat Putin. This, of course, Ukraine has waited until the end of the operation in Syria. Putin, in response to a question from a Ukrainian journalist, acknowledged that the Minsk agreements were completely discredited and incompetent.

Given that in Ukraine everything goes to the fact that Poroshenko will sooner or later either fall off the American leash, or be replaced by someone who does not throw it on himself. The result will be blood again and rake it to us. So Ukraine, like the sword of Damocles, is still hanging. And Putin understands this perfectly, hence the truly beautiful passages on this topic.

The fact that warm relations with the West are not foreseen, this is understandable, we have fully demonstrated this. There are minimum questions here.

Therefore, the main part of the questions was devoted, naturally, not to external, but to internal policy. What is more interested in the Russians.

And here it was really necessary to designate a certain specific vector, which the president will follow on his next term of government. And here relations with the West are not as important as the support of their own citizens in 2024, when it will be necessary to vote not for Putin.

By 2024, the growth of civic activity of the population, caused by this factor is quite possible. And society can become a political force that can either vote for Putin’s course for the country and beyond, or radically change it.

From here and hints on greater attention to internal problems.

“The main thing that the authorities and the whole society need to focus on is such issues as infrastructure development, healthcare, education, as I have already said, high technologies, increase in labor productivity.”

"Without any doubt, everything should be aimed at increasing the incomes of citizens, increasing the incomes of our people."

Wonderful. Moreover, the deadline is really the last and you can work in these directions tirelessly, and most importantly - without the slightest eye on the West. With which everything is more or less clear.

Money. The propeller and the engine of the entire development process at the same time. Six years is a short time, but to earn money for Russia, not selling its resources, but returning the stolen, both can and should be done.

As a good politician, Vladimir Vladimirovich cannot but understand that one billion taken away from the oligarchs and invested in the economy (no matter where and how) will give much more political points than the 10 billions earned by Gazprom.

"But the government should not be like a bearded man who idly picks out cabbage from his beard and looks at how the state turns into some muddy puddle from which the oligarchs pick out and catch for themselves the golden fish, like we had in 90's and how it is happening in Ukraine now. "

Diamond words. They would also be supported by a case: in 2024, polling stations will take by storm in order to vote for whoever will continue this matter.

"The state will not allow such a scenario in Russia as in Ukraine."

In two ways, very much in two ways. If with regard to the theft, so it is with us today with the order, although, we recognize, work in this regard is taking place. But the agricultural question is rather weak. Landings and few, and some they are unconvincing.

Another question to confiscate is to raise the question, but, apparently, it is still too early.

In principle, the law on foreign companies from 2014, and the subsequent financial amnesty in 2015, were good steps in this field. But success was more than modest. A number of oligarchs preferred to become tax non-residents of Russia, settling in the same Switzerland. But, I repeat, there is work to do here.

So, the vector is marked. The main focus is on raising everything, and in the end - the well-being of Russian citizens.

Not bad, very good. We are waiting for February and a new reference. And there should be no mistakes here, the question of trust, as I said above, and the choice.
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  1. populist
    populist 15 December 2017 06: 23 New
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    To appreciate and correctly understand everything that was said as answers to questions at the president’s press conference, you should probably listen to it more than once

    It is imperative to listen to the president’s speech several times or better to read, but it’s already clear that no hint of a new course is being found. Everything is old. hiNot capable.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 15 December 2017 06: 38 New
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      Quote: populist
      Everything is old

      Breakthroughs in the economy, in social programs, in politics are not expected ....
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 15 December 2017 22: 01 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Breakthroughs in the economy, in social programs, in politics are not expected ....

        the trouble is that the new course and the hint are two incompatible things .... you need to blow the new course, declare the world market an information virus, and go your own way
      2. Alber
        Alber 16 December 2017 07: 19 New
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        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Quote: populist
        Everything is old

        Breakthroughs in the economy, in social programs, in politics are not expected ....


        Moreover, shy from side to side suggests different thoughts ...
        But there is a plus!
        Finally, they gave the term to Ulyukaev
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 15 December 2017 06: 43 New
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      Quote: populist
      Everything is old

      Words about the primacy of domestic economic issues were spoken. Now we will watch them will will be fulfilled. And according to the results, we must conclude. And for early to give a negative forecast is very simple
      1. populist
        populist 15 December 2017 06: 53 New
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        Chertt
        Words about the primacy of domestic economic issues were spoken.

        You can say everything. The new economic program has already been ready for a year, and it (the pre-election) is only being written. Full bummer! Yes, and positions about Western investment wink all are old.
        1. Tatar 174
          Tatar 174 15 December 2017 07: 59 New
          +2
          As always - we share in our assessments of what was said, done and planned in half, so there is little point in arguing, our opinions will remain so ... I won’t guess and I won’t participate in fortune-telling.
          1. dSK
            dSK 15 December 2017 09: 00 New
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            Quote: Tatar 174
            we share in our assessments of what was said,

            Self-nomination is a good, honest start to the election race. Earlier, to lead the ruling party, being non-partisan, it looked somehow strange. hi
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 16 December 2017 00: 54 New
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              Quote: dsk
              Self-nomination is a good, honest start to the election race.

              But how to collect the "face value" of votes, well, at least to comply with the legislation on self-nominees?) So no, the media exploded - Putin is a candidate as self-nominee - that means the issue is resolved! But what about verification of signatures for a candidate?))) Well, at least formal? Russian democracy, ay!)))
        2. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 15 December 2017 13: 04 New
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          Quote: populist
          The new economic program has already been ready for a year, and it (the pre-election) is only being written. Full bummer!

          I am afraid that in any case it will be bad, for they instructed her to write - Kudrin!
      2. free
        free 15 December 2017 09: 31 New
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        Quote: Chertt
        Quote: populist
        Everything is old

        Words about the primacy of domestic economic issues were spoken. Now we will watch them will will be fulfilled. And according to the results, we must conclude. And for early to give a negative forecast is very simple

        17 years is not enough? Did not make out?
        1. Chertt
          Chertt 15 December 2017 09: 39 New
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          Quote: free
          17 years is not enough? Did not make out?

          Everything has its time. One of the first personal decrees of Putin was the dispatch of heaters on board the Emergencies Ministry !!! to the freezing city in the north. Delirium yes. That's what I had to do in 2000. It was impossible to fully focus on the economy, without internal order and foreign policy sovereignty
          1. free
            free 15 December 2017 09: 46 New
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            And you never thought why so? Why there is no order inside the country, etc.?
            1. Chertt
              Chertt 15 December 2017 09: 54 New
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              Quote: free
              And you never thought why so? Why there is no order inside the country, etc.?

              Even the chronicler Nestor wrote "Our earth is wide and plentiful, but there is no order in it" ..... Everyone thinks about it, and they reach the maximum, take a deep breath and say "..Fate .."
              1. Monster_Fat
                Monster_Fat 15 December 2017 10: 16 New
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                Um, there Nestor also has a sequel: "... they went overseas, to the Vikings, to Russia, and said to them:" Our land is large and plentiful, but there is no order in it: come to reign and own us. ”Three gathered brother (Rurik, Sineus and Truvor. - Comp.) with their relatives, took with them all of Russia and came. "
                Just like the Ukrainians now, they also call "vyryag" to reign, since they themselves cannot sort their way out ..... let them come and bring the "ordnung". wink
                1. Pancir026
                  Pancir026 15 December 2017 17: 10 New
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                  It is time to know that the Vikings and Russia are not something foreign, but there are the same Slavs, but stupid shaggy Vikings, whose culture is not a damn thing, except for a couple of three runes on stones and stolen glitters.
            2. Photon
              Photon 15 December 2017 13: 12 New
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              Why not? The country has order. With billionaires, complete order. With their yachts and palaces, a complete order.
          2. passing
            passing 15 December 2017 11: 22 New
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            One of the first personal decrees of Putin was the dispatch of heaters on board the Emergencies Ministry !!! to the freezing city in the north. Delirium yes. That's what I had to do in 2000

            In 2000, they saved the city in the north, and in 2016 in the suburbs, in the winter there was no electricity for 2 weeks, and the heating was electric. But no one answered. A few more years, and in the Kremlin will be stoked with wood
            1. Sotskiy
              Sotskiy 16 December 2017 01: 54 New
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              Quote: passing
              . A few more years, and in the Kremlin will be stoked with wood

              Will not! Chubais in homies!)))
      3. BecmepH
        BecmepH 15 December 2017 09: 51 New
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        Quote: Chertt
        And for early to give a negative forecast is very simple

        So this is not a forecast, this is experience. Worldly
        1. Sotskiy
          Sotskiy 16 December 2017 01: 57 New
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          Quote: BecmepH
          So this is not a forecast, this is experience. Worldly

          Chubais on such as you expected!) For the rest, there is experience and a history of economic relations!))))
      4. Overlock
        Overlock 15 December 2017 21: 20 New
        +5
        Election promises of presidential candidate Vladimir Putin in 2012:
        1 promise.«Сегодняшний экономический рост России – порядка 4%. При этом наиболее развитые страны прибавляют по 1–2% в год, но это не должно вводить нас в заблуждение... Поэтому объективное требование одно: темпы нашего развития должны быть кардинально выше тех, что мы имеем сегодня. Нужно <...> раскрутить маховик экономического развития, темпов роста до 6–7% в год, а за следующие пять лет войти в пятерку крупнейших экономик мира. Абсолютно реальная задача» (Путин). «Наша страна <...> не должна быть слабой, бедной» (Медведев).
        What has been done: The average annual growth rate of Russian GDP has decreased from 7,1% in 1999–2007. and 4,3% in 2010–2011. up to 0,5% in 2012–2016, and the growth rate of per capita GDP over the past five years is negative. At the same time, the average annual growth rate of the world economy amounted to 3,3%, global GDP per capita - 2,1%. Over the past five years (2012–2016), during which the Russian GDP cumulatively grew by 2,2%, and the Russian GDP per capita, respectively, decreased by 0,1%, the world GDP grew by 17,7%, and global average per capita GDP increased by 11,1%.
        In 2011, Russia ranked 6th in the world in terms of GDP, measured by purchasing power parity (PPP) at current prices; 9th place - in terms of GDP, measured by PPP at constant prices in 2002, 9th place - in terms of GDP, measured in dollars at current exchange rates. In 2016, Russia still ranks 6th in terms of GDP, measured by PPP at current prices; however, it is already 10th in terms of GDP, measured by PPP at constant prices in 2002, and 12th in terms of GDP, measured in dollars at current exchange rates.
        If in 2011 the per capita indicator of Russian GDP amounted to 29,3% of the US level, then in 2016 - 27,1%. If in 2011 the size of the Russian economy was 9 times less than the Chinese, then in 2016 it was almost 13 times.
        2 promise. Investments and the structure of the economy
        «Причем это должен быть не сырьевой, а качественно иной рост, построенный на инвестициях, передовых технологиях, на повышении эффективности, на создании современной индустрии» (Путин). «Это модернизация экономики, системы образования, техническое перевооружение промышленности, улучшение инвестиционного климата <...> повышение производительности и безопасности труда» (Медведев).
        What is done: In 2012–2016 labor productivity in Russia has not increased, but decreased - by 0,1%. Over five years, the annual investment in the Russian economy fell by 5,8%, the volume of construction work - by 8,7%. With a total increase in industrial production in 2012–2016. by 4,6%, the extraction of raw materials grew slightly faster (by 5,4%) than the production of manufacturing industries (by 5,2%). At the same time, the output of machinery and equipment decreased by 6,6%, including automobile production fell by 26,3%, and railway cars - by 36,5%.
        3 promise. Advanced infrastructure development
        «Мы должны подставить плечо бизнесу за счет опережающего развития инфраструктуры <...> За ближайшие 10 лет в два раза увеличим объемы дорожного строительства в стране» (Путин).
        What is done: Ten years have not passed yet, but in the first four years (2012–2015), investments in the transport industry fell by 27,3%, including in rail transport - by 34,3%, in automobile (bus) - by 50,8 ,2011%. If in 93 2015 km of new railway lines were introduced, in 18 only 34,7 km. The depreciation of fixed assets as a whole in transport increased from 2011% in 41,1 to 2015% in 30,4, including on the railway - from 36,3 to 55,3%, on the bus - from 59,2, XNUMX to XNUMX%.
        4 promise. Increase welfare
        population.
        «Повышение благосостояния наших людей <...> Это выполнение социальных обязательств, повышение, насколько, конечно, это возможно, зарплат, пенсий, пособий, борьба с бедностью, модернизация здравоохранения» (Медведев). «К концу 2014 г. средняя заработная плата в стране должна увеличиться в 1,5 раза и достигнуть порядка 30 000–32 000 руб. При этом должны существенно увеличиться и зарплаты бюджетников» (Путин).
        What is done: In 2014, the nominal average salary in the country really reached 32 rubles, and by the end of 500, even 2016 rubles. However, due to the continued rise in prices and the devaluation of the ruble, the purchasing power of salaries, benefits, pensions, and other cash incomes of the population over the past five years has either not increased or even decreased. Compared to 36, the average wage in real terms (including inflation) increased by only 700%, the average pension by 2011%, consumer spending remained at the same level, disposable cash income decreased by 5,4% , and all cash income fell by 1,1%. The population with incomes below the subsistence minimum for five years increased from 1,6 million to 4,1 million people, and their share in the country's population grew from 17,9 to 20,3%.
        You can continue to continue, but .....
    3. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 15 December 2017 10: 19 New
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      1. Immediately struck by the behavior of journalists. Gum. noise. screams. jumping out of place. appeal to the President without demand.
      What kind of performance is Peskov?
      What kind of disrespect for the president of a great power?
      Or is it necessary ???
      2. The GDP itself. It turned out that it was tired. Tired of "oars on the galley" Often fidgeting on a chair-back or character
      Vladimir Putin: Ah, babai. "The monkey has become weak with old eyes." excuse me
      3. The responses of GDP were, as always, at their best. specific and verified
      4 Not from the conference
      .Why does GDP come from a self-nominee, and not from the United Russia party created by him or from ONF whose leader has been a leader for many years? https://onf.ru/leader/
      (The All-Russian political party “United Russia” is the Russian liberal-conservative political party, the largest political party of the Russian Federation, the “party of power.” It was formed on December 1, 2001 in the form of a union of the Unity movement and the Fatherland-All Russia election bloc together with It was created by Putin

      Sergey Kuzhugetovich Shoigu, Mintimer Sharipovich Shaimiev, Yuri Mikhailovich Luzhkov
      At the 15th EdRa Congress in 2016, the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin, spoke.
      .. "" Putin recalled that he was the initiator and author of the idea of ​​creating "United Russia". “Indeed, I myself initiated and created this party, the need for it was vital, first of all, to strengthen Russian statehood ..” ”

      Party Chairman since May 2012 - Dmitry Medvedev,))),
      1. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 15 December 2017 11: 10 New
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        Putin’s answers were, as always, vague and not about the type of “do you know what the USA is in general ..” or “do you want us to have it like in Ukraine?”
    4. Samaritan
      Samaritan 15 December 2017 11: 26 New
      +2
      We need revolution... there is a man-made, scientific and resource for this, but we are all spinning in one place ...
    5. Mazandaran
      Mazandaran 15 December 2017 12: 51 New
      +3
      Listen to you, it turns out like this: Chef FSO is gone ....!
    6. Hlavaty
      Hlavaty 15 December 2017 13: 29 New
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      Putin's press conference how hint on a new course

      To appreciate and correctly understand everything that was said as answers to questions at the president’s press conference, you should probably listen to it more than once

      Oh, these hints ... oh, these storytellers ...
      Judging by the conclusion at the end of the article:
      The main focus is to increase everything

      neither double listening nor taking notes helped the author. No one even understood the hint. What is the new course? In general, will there be a new course if the president recognized the work of the government as satisfactory? Here the Russians complain about the mess, and the president is satisfied. And what further can I ask?
      As for the external bloc, the author himself notes the deterioration of the situation: the Olympic slap in the face, frantic propaganda ... "And the process is growing, starting from the 2014 year."
      Unfortunately, the author didn’t specify which “truly beautiful passages” about Ukraine were. I did not see any beautiful passages. The giggles of the president of the country, which supplies both sides of the civil war, look ugly. And according to the answers, it is clear that there are no new ideas besides the Minsk agreements.
      And what is this new course? "raising everything" - A more miserable slogan is hard to come up with.
      “Move the trough closer, and take the primer” Sergey Simonov.
    7. Kent0001
      Kent0001 16 December 2017 01: 38 New
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      Illy is not allowed ....
  2. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 15 December 2017 06: 25 New
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    Nothing new this time either. We have not heard the election program, only good wishes. Raising citizens' incomes is good, but how? In the budget for next year, neither increases in salaries, nor investments in people are included. May decrees were not fulfilled, however, like all previous promises. There is nothing in the asset except Crimea. Although it is ambiguous here - they got Crimea, but they also lost all of Ukraine + western sanctions. And at the same time he considers himself exceptional, does not see competitors.
    1. Frol 7525
      Frol 7525 15 December 2017 06: 59 New
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      good And Crimea is not an asset, only expenses ...
      1. Cxnumx
        Cxnumx 15 December 2017 07: 25 New
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        Цитата: Фрол 7525
        And Crimea is not an asset, only expenses ...

        you, together with Rimlianin, obviously want to return this "illiquid asset", right? and then losses, watered. problems, sanctions, "bros" in frustrated feelings ... and eh ... we still have to give the Kuril Islands - Japan will immediately become kinder and democracy will also come closer, on aircraft carrier groups))
        Threat message doubled ...
    2. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 15 December 2017 07: 18 New
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      Цитата: Фрол 7525
      And Crimea is not an asset, only expenses ...

      with a citizen Rimlianin offer to return? and then the problems from them, the costs. Well, of course you were against his entry into Russia, right?)
    3. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 15 December 2017 07: 22 New
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      Quote: Rimlianin
      And at the same time he considers himself exceptional, does not see competitors.

      about! Tell me, which competitor can you vote for? otherwise I can not I would vote for Putin, but something is dull, I also do not see point-blank competitors from those registered.
      Threat only lazy anonymous do not offer, which break / laziness / noAhota / etc. etc. apply for registration.
      1. Frol 7525
        Frol 7525 15 December 2017 07: 33 New
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        Have you spoken out, can I answer? You don’t have to give out your own thoughts for the interlocutor’s thoughts, especially if he didn’t say anything like that, I’m talking about the Kuril Islands now.
        1. Cxnumx
          Cxnumx 15 December 2017 07: 48 New
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          Цитата: Фрол 7525
          Have you spoken out, can I answer? You don’t have to give out your own thoughts for the interlocutor’s thoughts, especially if he didn’t say anything like that, I’m talking about the Kuril Islands now.

          well we will analyze on the shelves:
          Цитата: Фрол 7525
          And Crimea is not an asset, only expenses ...

          i.e., as I understand it, of course, you support the statement
          Quote: Rimlianin
          There is nothing in the asset except Crimea. Although it is ambiguous here - they got Crimea, but they also lost all of Ukraine + western sanctions.

          those. Crimea joining Russia does not suit you? or did you know another way to return him from the country with the Nazis who came to power? I'd love to know him too. and so, from your own words it follows that we do not need this territory - the same problems.
          about the Kuril Islands: of course, this assumption only works if you are against the return of the Crimea, but in this case it works 100% ...
          Threat about the Crimea: I suppose, again, you know another way to manage the peninsula so that it immediately begins to pay dividends to cover expenses. that would be even more interesting.
          1. Rimlianin
            Rimlianin 15 December 2017 08: 33 New
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            I do not consider the return of Crimea a foreign victory for Putin. It was an inevitable and forced measure. The battle won with a total defeat. I never wanted to return the Pluostra to Ukraine, it's your fantasies that are inflamed.
            1. Cxnumx
              Cxnumx 15 December 2017 08: 56 New
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              Quote: Rimlianin
              I do not consider the return of Crimea a foreign victory for Putin. It was an inevitable and forced measure. The battle won with a total defeat.

              Putin returned, but this is not his victory. logic yes. about Ukraine: he repeatedly asked all those who claimed that Putin was to blame for her "departure": what actions should have been taken. something no one answered sane only "he should not have allowed this situation ..." - besides such water, no examples.
              Quote: Rimlianin
              I never wanted to return the Pluostra to Ukraine, it's your fantasies that are inflamed.

              Quote: Rimlianin
              Although it is ambiguous here - they got Crimea, but they also lost all of Ukraine + western sanctions.

              it follows from your own words: if they didn’t get Crimea, they wouldn’t lose Ukraine + there wouldn’t be any Western sanctions. or am I not reading that?
              1. Rimlianin
                Rimlianin 15 December 2017 09: 14 New
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                From my words only what I said follows. And on the account of what our authorities had to do to prevent Ukraine from leaving to the West. First and foremost. To set the condition, albeit unofficially, of receiving financial preferences from Russia, a ban on Bandera propaganda in Ukraine, on Russophobia on television, and on the participation in political life of UPA-UNSO supporters. Secondly, send to work in Ukraine is not black-and-white and zurabov, but the same Zatulin and other literate people. And much more, knowledgeable people will probably add. And when it happened, then of course, what could be done? Although Crimea was defended, it’s good.
                1. Cxnumx
                  Cxnumx 15 December 2017 12: 02 New
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                  Quote: Rimlianin
                  First and foremost. To set the condition, albeit unofficially, of receiving financial preferences from Russia, a ban on Bandera propaganda in Ukraine, on Russophobia on television, and on the participation in political life of UPA-UNSO supporters. Secondly, send to work in Ukraine is not black-and-white and zurabov, but the same Zatulin and other literate people. And much more, knowledgeable people will probably add.

                  in my opinion, if the condition is tacit, then in the case of financing by the opponents of the opposite, its observance is practically impossible. crushed here - jump out there. Russia invested much more money in Ukraine than the US-EU. but! 1. Ukrainians are used to it. 2. US-EU money went targeted, and required reporting on work, rather than being spread over by a wide front in the budget. 3. about 50% of Ukrainians have long dreamed of a "forbidden fruit" in the form of the EU, and were eager to go there. 4. polit. the active part of the population was mostly in the "dreamed of the EU." 5. Yanukovych / power simply failed ... whether its power and instead of introducing troops caved in.
                  personally, I’m not sure that Ukraine could have been kept without pouring billions of dollars into it, much more than 3. I don’t know if the purchased fraternity with all of Ukraine is real with the Crimea and Donbass. even the Natsiks in Belarus somehow became quieter.
                  and about personnel decisions - it’s generally difficult, whatever decisions were made.
              2. zoolu350
                zoolu350 17 December 2017 14: 20 New
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                So they told you in Russian that Crimea is a battle won in a lost company (battle for Ukraine). And what should the oligarchy of the Russian Federation do in order not to lose Ukraine? I spread it on my fingers:
                1. Preventive measures (creation and support of pro-Russian parties and organizations in Ukraine, purchase and promotion of “their” politicians in power, discrediting and terror against leaders and members of Pro-Bandera parties and organizations of Ukraine);
                2. Measures to eliminate the Maidan (liquidation of the leaders of the Maidan, interception on behalf of Yanukovych of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to suppress banderlogs, up to dressing the FSB special forces in the form of the SBU);
                3. Post-targeted measures (the categorical non-recognition of all the post-government governments of the ukrareich and the imposition of an economic blockade, the creation and support of pro-Russian organizations, terror against leaders and active participants in bandera organizations).
                The oligarchy of the Russian Federation has not done anything indicated by me.
      2. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 15 December 2017 08: 26 New
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        I would vote for Boldyrev or Grudinin. But if they are not in the lists of candidates, then this is not because they are too lazy to go to the CEC and submit an application, but because for irrelevant candidates put forward impossible requirements with the collection of signatures. And from the parliamentary parties the old people Z, F and M will go again, they are unlikely to put forward others. Although I have little hope that the Communist Party at least out of a sense of self-preservation will not nominate Zyuganov, but the same Grudinin ..
        1. Cxnumx
          Cxnumx 15 December 2017 08: 44 New
          +3
          Quote: Rimlianin
          submit an application, but because independent candidates have previously set unrealistic requirements for collecting signatures.

          let's be honest: the problem is not in collecting signatures. I have the experience of going home and collecting these signatures: from 10 to 100 rubles are paid to the collector for each signature; mostly always poor students work. if the assembler has a well-suspended language, he was correctly told about the advantages of the program, the candidate is known / heard about him - collecting signatures is not a problem. under such conditions, a couple of hundred 1 average collector collects per day.
          but money for all these matters is a problem. will someone sponsor a nominee? he himself usually does not have such funds. but there’s also a question: how much more “expensive” is our election campaign than in the West, for example? for example, one can not even equate with the USA - they have an order of magnitude more money going into this business. and allow anyone? Well, 500 candidates will appear without signatures, about 470 of which they have not heard at all anywhere except their apartment. on procedural documents alone a lot of state will be left to process them. of money.
        2. JIaIIoTb
          JIaIIoTb 15 December 2017 09: 05 New
          +4
          Quote: Rimlianin
          impossible requirements for independent candidates with signature collection


          That is the law. Or do you advocate changing the law in favor of candidates that you like?
          But what about democracy, equality (I almost wrote the fraternity))? Or is your democracy such a democracy that only 2% should receive its "benefits"?
          1. Rimlianin
            Rimlianin 15 December 2017 09: 25 New
            10
            I believe that any party, not just a parliamentary one, should have the right to nominate candidates without collecting signatures. And the collection of signatures in such a short time and in such numbers is a clear practically impossible obstacle for independent politicians. And yet - everyone must participate in the debate.
            1. Cxnumx
              Cxnumx 15 December 2017 11: 50 New
              +4
              Quote: Rimlianin
              And yet - everyone must participate in the debate.

              Now I support it 100%, the rest is debatable. the candidate can be self-nominated, even if he is a member of the party (if I do not confuse). in fact, everything depends on the signature, or rather, on the funds necessary to collect them for the right period.
            2. woron333444
              woron333444 16 December 2017 02: 25 New
              +1
              Rimlianin I will sign up for deputies, without collecting signatures, I will receive loot for the election campaign, I will participate in debates and dump this money. Just business will be in the elections.
    4. Romey
      Romey 15 December 2017 16: 14 New
      +6
      Unfortunately, there is something new ... Raising the retirement age has resolved the issue. Who does not serve in the army or in the bodies, fiery greetings. You plow till 65 years. Undoubtedly, the people will be delighted.
      1. Essex62
        Essex62 15 December 2017 17: 04 New
        +6
        They will not be able to plow, they rarely keep anyone at work and up to 60 something. In government agencies., With not a high salary, you can still cling to, and the bloodsucker huckster-bourgeois strives to push out older people without waiting for this age. Russian peasants, all their lives hunching at their native state, it looks like kirdyk. Did he even think how millions of old people will survive?
  3. Knowing
    Knowing 15 December 2017 06: 37 New
    +5
    Apparently, the GDP is going to focus on improving the welfare of citizens and the development of the Russian economy. IMHO. It’s time to begin to clean the cabinet from parasites.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 15 December 2017 08: 04 New
      12
      Well, yes, in the 18th year of government, you can already focus on the welfare of citizens. Although I don’t believe it, if it’s not been before all 17 years, then now hardly anyone will do it
    2. free
      free 15 December 2017 09: 34 New
      18
      Quote: Knowing
      Apparently, the GDP is going to focus on improving the welfare of citizens and the development of the Russian economy. IMHO. It’s time to begin to clean the cabinet from parasites.

      I read and laugh ...... through tears.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 December 2017 09: 46 New
      12
      It’s time to begin to clean the cabinet from parasites.
      Six months later, you will be ashamed of these words.
    4. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 December 2017 13: 07 New
      10
      Quote: Knowing
      Apparently, the GDP is going to focus on improving the welfare of citizens and the development of the Russian economy.

      Well, for now, I’ve only heard about the increase in the retirement age from him, and only after that we’ll panow (to put it briefly)
  4. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 15 December 2017 06: 40 New
    +2
    Quote: Rimlianin
    Nothing new this time either. We have not heard the election program, only good wishes. Raising citizens' incomes is good, but how? In the budget for next year, neither increases in salaries, nor investments in people are included. May decrees were not fulfilled, however, like all previous promises. There is nothing in the asset except Crimea. Although it is ambiguous here - they got Crimea, but they also lost all of Ukraine + western sanctions. And at the same time he considers himself exceptional, does not see competitors.

    Freshly baked and immediately into the battle? What then did you look at? Putin does everything right. And what goes to the polls not from the party that has discredited itself is also right. But this is most likely to gain as many votes as possible. In fact, EP is party of power, and he can’t get away from it,
    1. Rimlianin
      Rimlianin 15 December 2017 07: 05 New
      17
      About the freshly baked, it's you in vain, I've been here for the first year. And the fact that I’m empty on virtual shoots, because here too often I have been reduced in rank for comments that are inconvenient for many. Yes, and I do not particularly like verbiage. I read more than others.
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 15 December 2017 08: 49 New
        +1
        My record was deleted by the administrator several years ago, and now I have three warnings. But I have never opposed the actions of the Russian leadership in protecting my sovereign interests. It is sometimes better to keep silent.
        1. Rimlianin
          Rimlianin 15 December 2017 10: 13 New
          10
          And somewhere, I was against the country's leadership in protecting its interests? Poke your nose please. Otherwise, you had better keep silent.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 15 December 2017 08: 00 New
      0
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      ER.this is a party of power, and he can’t get anywhere from it,

      Well, how can I say .... you can clean it well.
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 15 December 2017 08: 44 New
        +3
        Kind time of the day. Are you kidding? When is it, someone flogged himself in public? Unless the crime became public, and went beyond what was permitted? The larger the party, the stronger it defends its interests. Putin did not renounce publicly from this party. So this is a PR move in the election campaign, and nothing more.
        1. Antares
          Antares 15 December 2017 11: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          When is it, someone flogged himself in public?

          partial experience is the Party of Regions in Ukraine. They flogged themselves, repented, abandoned the leader, changed their name and, in a truncated composition, joined the opposition.
      2. Rimlianin
        Rimlianin 15 December 2017 14: 16 New
        +7
        The party implies a stable ideology. The Communists have one, the liberals another. And what is the ideology of EP? Unite around the president? But the president himself doesn’t really want to be associated with this club of bureaucrats.
        1. Romey
          Romey 15 December 2017 16: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: Rimlianin
          The party implies a stable ideology. The Communists have one, the liberals another. And what is the ideology of EP? Unite around the president? But the president himself doesn’t really want to be associated with this club of bureaucrats.

          There is no intelligible ideology, but there is a real economic policy. And this policy is ultra-liberal. Draw a conclusion.
  5. Chichikov
    Chichikov 15 December 2017 06: 50 New
    +1
    "The state will not allow such a scenario in Russia as in Ukraine."
    In two ways, very much in two ways. If with regard to the theft, so it is with us today with the order, although, we recognize, work in this regard is taking place. But the agricultural question is rather weak. Landings and few, and some they are unconvincing.
    Until now, I was still bothering to read to understand - what is the author’s interpretation of the statements made! But, if the promise of GDP, that “the State will not allow such a scenario in Russia as in Ukraine,” is translated from the channel - “attempts to rock the socio-political situation” into the channel - “plundering and landings,” then continue to powder brains did not.
  6. cedar
    cedar 15 December 2017 07: 04 New
    +8
    At the press conference, where there were 1600 journalists with their motley questions, from the cow to the strategic relationship with China, we could not hear any “New Deal” in principle. Wrong place, wrong composition ...
    Putin was to announce the "New Deal" on November 4, the Day of National Unity, to the people gathered in Luzhniki.
    But the people were not up to it, there was not enough of it, Putin did not see the support of the people, he did not make a blank shot.
    And now, from this press conference, many will pick out some hints of Putin’s “New Deal” from the roe, and what else remains for the poor fellow, except picking ...
    Everything has its time, dear ...
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 15 December 2017 12: 27 New
      +8
      Quote: cedar
      ... some hints of Putin's New Deal ...


      Previously, these were some hints of "New Thinking" ... belay
      Even earlier - some hints of the personality cult of Stalin ... belay

      As a person of age, I can say one thing: the course cannot change depending on where the wind blows. It can only be new after recognizing that we were heading the wrong course ... Then questions arise and searches for those responsible and those involved ... While in the economic sector (banking) we will see old, battered faces, do not expect anything new .. .
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 15 December 2017 07: 05 New
    +9
    Olympic flop showed that calm and peaceful coexistence with the West can not be expected. They will beat wherever possible.


    Already on our football team WADA barrel rolls ...
    our neutrals were also given a slap from them again (they say they’ve gathered for the Olympics and now sit and wait for a personal call for interrogations by WADA.) .. a disgrace ... they will wipe their feet about them and throw them out like a rag.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 15 December 2017 08: 06 New
      18
      And they’ll do it right. If people themselves go to humiliation, then why not mock them to the fullest?
    2. True
      True 15 December 2017 22: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Already on our football team WADA barrel rolls ...

      Chu .... Yes, finally, not a problem. Eleven of any other people will show the same result. It is necessary to prepare several teams at once. bully
  8. NKVD
    NKVD 15 December 2017 07: 58 New
    11
    The problem is whether our higher echelons of power are not responsible for anything. They can say anything and then forget and no one will answer. How many governors were transplanted, did someone reprimand Putin or apologize publicly that he appointed a thief to this by mistake fast? There are many examples, you can’t believe the words after that. All this is election rhetoric.
  9. kush62
    kush62 15 December 2017 08: 08 New
    +4
    Not bad, not bad. We look forward to February and a new countdown.

    Before his eyes, Roman Skomorokhov himself, patting Putin on the shoulder.
  10. Egoza
    Egoza 15 December 2017 08: 13 New
    +6
    I am very sorry that there were no correspondents from VO at the conference! Well, you could ask a "couple of questions" based on the opinions of our participants.
  11. askme
    askme 15 December 2017 08: 25 New
    +4
    He didn’t even notice another elephant ... His money is the basis of everything. Landing and confiscation. Wild people ... The same as Navalny, but on the other hand.

    Not money is the basis of everything, but people. This is the main thesis of Putin. People on whom the Communists in fact have always spit. More important were castles in the air of their own fantasies about world revolution, about how much money to plunder from the “bourgeois” and divided - the Gopniks lacked more imagination, and therefore their children and grandchildren ended up with insanity.

    No, New Russia is gradually putting forward the first place in man, his large-scale development, starting from childhood. It was about a concrete, not an abstract person that Putin spoke.

    Another very important topic is the investment cycle, although he did not directly speak about it, but mentioned that investment in fixed assets is now growing rapidly. And this means that in six years Russia will be a completely different country, with an actively and powerfully developing industry, with massively launched new industries and industries. And Russia will choose the right Path, Putin’s path)) And all your ravings of gopniks and criminals from both sides how to steal and rob the stolen - this will all become a thing of the past. The Sharikovs will be a thing of the past. In history) It could not be otherwise ...

    That is, I want to say that it is in six years that the fruits of the results that were sown in recent years after 2014 in the form of seeds will really begin to ripen in a multitude. It is then that the course will become apparent. And in the future, Russia will go forward precisely along this path, being filled with confidence from the most important results of its development))
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 15 December 2017 13: 02 New
      12
      Quote: askme
      It is then that the course will become apparent.

      Have mercy! But how can you not believe it? belay
      You have written so much about the correctness of Putin’s course without seeing either the course itself, not knowing the guides that they will follow ... In particular, in the economy and the banking sector. That's why I don’t believe you. I won’t believe that the “state Duma” legislators completely voluntarily change for the better. They will begin to travel to the regions that have pushed them to the Duma, to see what is happening in these regions. And then share your impressions and approve laws that will change lives for the better. So far, all their fabrications lead nowhere. Examples? The simplest is pension reform, in which a sane person will never want to voluntarily go out and live on “points”. Can you tell me why some residents of some countries live in abundance, while citizens of others forever in search of a piece of bread and a “new course”?

      Yes, a small remark on the Communists. You said how people lived under the communists: "People who the Communists have never spit in fact." And you may ask, when did the Communists spit on people? In 1941, when did the Nazis declare war on us? Or in 1985, when perestroika started? Or in 1991, when they did not give a damn about the opinion of the people and tore the Union and all the Union property? So, maybe, in 2000, proclaiming a course on oligarchic capitalism? The communists were different and their mottos were different. For some, “Forward Communists!” And for others, “Communists in the first place.” This is one of those, which are, first of all, those under the white flag with an updated course, to their cherished goal ... So they’ve got the flag in their hands, and Putin to help, along with Medvedev’s team ...
    2. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 15 December 2017 19: 55 New
      +5
      ASKME Dear. I remember about 10 years ago scampering with the "Putin plan". although he was not. but there were naked slogans. and now the same crap. There is not even a coherent national idea. And if you take into account how children are taught at schools and institutes now. I don’t share your optimism. Satellites will continue to fall. The guarantor makes hints. it gives signals. I liked how he proposed to take cash flows from management companies. instead of whether he signed the infamous Decree No. 354 without any discussion and examination? And the necessary laws are not accepted for years. When he needs it, they will write the law overnight. and in the morning they will. and if not necessary. then you won’t wait, but once a year you can try to ask. why.
  12. Varyag77
    Varyag77 15 December 2017 08: 37 New
    +8
    Yes, stop already NPA Putin then roll the barrel. Is there a conscience? Why do critics not pay attention to the conditions under which he works? Why ignored the brutal opposition of the West for many years. Yes, he cannot tear his head from "external" problems. Still simple. While the West was looking closely, such as "who are you Mr. Putin," there were essentially no external problems. And Putin managed poorly poorly to tame the oligarchs, improve the quality of life of people, etc. After some time, the West nevertheless rated Putin as a threat. I suspect that after Munich in 2007, Putin was looked at as an enemy. And all subsequent years, the West threw up new serious problems that needed to be addressed. What would an adequate president prefer? Correctly. He will prefer the solution of external problems to internal. No matter how annoying and insulting it was. Because external issues are issues of the existence of the state itself. Now I think, realizing that the deadline is over, Putin will really want to solve internal problems, because there is nowhere to put off. And he will not want to leave these problems to a successor, because no matter who says anything, Putin is a true patriot and statesman.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 10: 10 New
      +9
      It may be that, according to some here on the site, Stalin is to blame for everything bad that happened in the country in those years and has nothing to do with good then. And Putin is not responsible for anything, unlike Stalin. Only success is credited to him. There were times and worse, but the leaders were better. For some here, as I understand it, the state is a fetish and it is necessary to protect it by all means regardless of the people, so that shreds fly. But I suggest nevertheless to distinguish the state from the homeland. And then protect it. But for some reason, the government protects everything and calls on the people to protect only the state! Do not find it strange? However, my question is rhetorical to you.
      1. Boris55
        Boris55 15 December 2017 10: 50 New
        +2
        Our dreams will always be ahead of our capabilities and that’s right, otherwise we would still be sitting in a cave and chasing mammoths. BUT! You should not destroy the country for the dream of lace panties.
        Everything goes according to plan: 1) Gathered the country. 2) I fed people. 3) Ensured the country's defense. 4) In the process - gaining sovereignty (untying the dollar). 5) And only after all this it will be possible to drive the bourgeois under the bench.
        It is impossible to disperse managers to gather the country. It is impossible to ensure the country's defense capability without feeding people. You cannot gain sovereignty without untying the dollar.
        Do not bother him to work.
        1. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 10: 59 New
          12
          smile Dear Boris 55, you reminded me of a joke of the Brezhnev era. Our esteemed Pu is speaking .., oh, Brezhnev and he is being asked a question: why is everything expensive in the shops ..., oh there is no meat? To which Brezhnev answered: the country is moving towards capital ...., oh, towards communism by leaps and bounds! Cattle simply can not keep up!
          In management there is such a thing as parallelization of processes. All that you wrote it was possible and needed to be parallelized and not spend 17 years supposedly fulfilling 3 points. At least Stalin could. You can not interfere with work to those who work. This does not apply to either the Guarantor or the government. And do not build pink illusions about the corral bourgeois under the bench.
        2. Shahno
          Shahno 15 December 2017 10: 59 New
          +3
          1. Got it? (USSR?)
          2. Fed? (Agriculture, incomes other than Moscow?)
          3. I agree.
          4. and 5. Dreams.
          1. Boris55
            Boris55 15 December 2017 11: 10 New
            +4
            Quote: Shahno
            1. Got it? (USSR?)

            Gathered Russia ready to follow the path of the USSR.

            During the Second World War only part of the USSR was destroyed (before the Volga). Putin got a completely destroyed country (from the western borders to the Pacific Ocean).



            The times of the seven-boyars (https://snob.ru/selected/entry/30178), when the oligarchs appointed from the State Department opened the doors in all rooms of the Kremlin with their feet, are over. Putin managed to remove them from direct participation in government. Also in the person of Shaimiev it was possible to remove the regional grouping, in the person of Luzhkov - Moscow.

            By the year 2000, everything was ready for the collapse of the country. 24 republics were formed in the nutria of Russia. To evade responsibility, a play was played with the departure of Yeltsin and the appointment of Putin. The Far Eastern republic was created in all, the Siberian one with the statement of Lebed: “There is no land beyond the Urals”, after which his helicopter became entangled in high-voltage wires, Ural (http://chel.mk.ru/articles/2011/12/07/ 650453-ura

            lskaya-respublika-kotoroy-ne-byilo.html) led by Rossel in all prints of the Ural francs. Pay attention to the date on the bills. The USSR has not yet collapsed, and the money has already been printed.



            The swan that signed the Khasavyurt world, according to which Chechnya became a separate state a year later, essentially launched the collapse of Russia. And this is not counting national entities. In Bashkiria, Tatarstan, militants were training in full. The North Caucasus did not essentially recognize the central authority. Yeltsin’s words: “Take as much as you can” were welcomed by the local princes with joy. All of them were waiting for the central government to finally fall and all responsibility for robbing the people, for unpaid salaries, pensions, allowances, etc., could be blamed. on her. Local laws were recognized above national laws. Intersectoral balance was upset. Destroyed all business ties between enterprises. Equipment and property looted. First of all, enterprises of strategic importance were destroyed. If we compare the Pentagon’s maps of nuclear strikes on the territory of the USSR, then they coincide with the destruction of just those industries.
            Here is such a country went to Putin.

            Quote: Shahno
            2.Has fed?

            Yes, fed. For the forgetful:

            1. Shahno
              Shahno 15 December 2017 11: 15 New
              +3
              Prevented decay.
              Yes, I can agree. There was a danger. But he didn’t.
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 15 December 2017 11: 23 New
                0
                Quote: Shahno
                There was a danger.

                She wasn’t just there. Everything was ready for this. Responsibility for the collapse of Russia was to lie on Putin. Broke off. Then, then, Yeltsin’s daughter squealed - oh, we didn’t put that ...
                Everything according to plan and dreams will come true. Only setting high goals can achieve at least some results.
                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 11: 36 New
                  +3
                  smile Other lofty goals give in the soul of either Manilovism or Oblomovism. It is necessary to set feasible goals and act on priorities. The current government has neither one nor the other.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 15 December 2017 11: 43 New
                    0
                    Quote: andrej-shironov
                    The current government has neither one nor the other.

                    And how is it that neither of which is there, but Russia is? Have you heard Putin’s answer on May decrees? Nobody believed the same thing, but they are more than 90% fulfilled.
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 15: 49 New
                      +8
                      smile Fortunately, even for such figures, Russia has been and will be! How many years have passed and the decrees are still only 90% fulfilled? !!! Afiget achievement. And what about 25 million high-tech jobs? Putin did not say this at a press conference. Dear Boris 55, learn to live your own opinion, even if the authorities stubbornly impose their own, and do not be afraid to uphold your principles, even if life snaps on you for it.
            2. Esoteric
              Esoteric 15 December 2017 13: 16 New
              11
              Quote: Boris55
              Here is such a country went to Putin.

              That would be all smooth, on paper, but forget about ... Opening of the Yeltsin House ... belay Something there (very recently), the GDP spoke about the merits of the EBN completely different ... Then the thought passed that Serdyukov was appointed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to conceal the revival of the defense industry, but DAM, for what purpose was put on the head of government? To hide something or to blame on him? belay When mediocre professionals, language professionals are attracted to the administration of the country and they are paid, unlike a simple hard worker, very large sums of money, then we have the right to demand significant cases, and not “toilet attempts” ... yes
              1. Boris55
                Boris55 15 December 2017 13: 49 New
                0
                Quote: Esoteric
                That would be all smooth, on paper, but forget about ..

                1. andrej-shironov
                  andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 15: 51 New
                  +3
                  smile See the root! (Kozma Prutkov) Boris, I already wrote to you above about the presence / absence of my opinion. Do not hide behind the great. It is generally unworthy of men to give out someone else's opinion in order to support their own.
                  1. Boris55
                    Boris55 15 December 2017 16: 43 New
                    +1
                    Quote: andrej-shironov
                    Do not hide behind the great. It is generally unworthy of men to give out someone else's opinion in order to support their own.




                    Neither I nor you possess even a part of the information that Putin possesses. Therefore, we often cannot appreciate the specific decisions made by him at a given moment in time. To judge managers at this level should only be based on the general results of its activities.
                    You are talking about tactics. I suggest looking at the strategy. The fact is that by leaving in particular we risk never returning from there. And you and I, in confirmation of your innocence, will find a lot of examples justifying our point of view.
                    In the end, we will send each other and everyone will remain with this in their opinion.
                    1. andrej-shironov
                      andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 18: 32 New
                      +1
                      smile Boris agrees with the last point. Sometimes, in order to understand trends, it is not necessary to possess the entire amount of information. Yes, and no one canceled just intuition. I just judge by the actions of those in power and who do not believe in what kind of HPP from the word "completely." By the way, the ability to work with little things without towering into the skies of strategy speaks of a good development of the human mental apparatus. Life is our chain, and there are links in it, and you can’t ignore every little thing.
                      1. Boris55
                        Boris55 15 December 2017 19: 10 New
                        0
                        Quote: andrej-shironov
                        Life is our chain, and there are links in it, and you can’t ignore every little thing.

                        "Many things are incomprehensible to us, not because our concepts are weak, but because these things are not included in the circle of our concepts." Kozma Rods.

                        "Providence is not an algebra, a person’s mind is not a prophet, but a guesser. He sees the general course of things and draws from it deep assumptions, sometimes justified by time. But he is not given to foresee a case, a powerful and instant weapon of providence." A.S. Pushkin
              2. Golovan Jack
                Golovan Jack 15 December 2017 16: 14 New
                +9
                Quote: Esoteric
                ... we have the right to demand ...

                You are kind of a grown man, remember:
                - I have a right?
                - Yes, you have.
                “So I can?”
                - No you can not.
                - But how, because I have the right !!
                - Yes, you have ...

                Where from? I give a beacon: from the USSR wink
  13. Enoch
    Enoch 15 December 2017 08: 59 New
    14
    "Tell me who your friend is, and I will tell you who you are."

    Chubais, Mutko, Sobchak, etc., etc.
    "Last year, 76 Russian entrepreneurs with a total capital of $ 275 billion were included in the Forbes list, and the 2017 rating already includes 96 Russians and their total assets added 40% in weight, reaching $ 387,2 billion." A simple people with petition in line at pressconfs, maybe hear and help. Bankers bred, sho cockroaches - less bakery shops. The world is ruled by capital and the chosen people.
    So where are we?
    1. Siberian
      Siberian 15 December 2017 09: 34 New
      0
      Ready list for the use of rectal thermocryptanalysis for the detection of hidden income.
  14. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 15 December 2017 09: 53 New
    16
    There will NOT be any change in course, if you change the course, you have to change the whole so-called pseudo-elite, stick to the body, all high-ranking officials from the prime minister, etc., completely clean up law enforcement agencies and the courts, what is happening there, this is generally complete BANDLESS and if the president does not see this, then he is "blind" or simply does not want to see. Frankly, he completely failed in domestic politics, in particular, economics, personnel, and ideology. There is a country Qatar, the UAE, some have gas, others have oil, there is a country Singapore, they don’t have anything at all, all three countries are in the top ten in terms of per capita income, how ordinary people live there. CITIZENS We all know, we travel, we see. We have ALL oil, gas, gold, platinum, coal, ores, fresh water, chernozem forests, etc., and the like, and how our CITIZENS live - simple, not this snickering and mired in corruption, in obscene behavior and just a criminal offense bureaucratic and oligarchic army. An example is Mary Baghdasaryan, as a huge spit of all power, and to the whole normal RUSSIAN PEOPLE, there’s nothing to talk about cadres, all the main thieves the PRESIDENT’s personnel nomenclature (ulyukaev, stool, governors, etc.) here’s "quality" work with cadres . An ideology, an attempt to show a film about the Aidar battalion, indicates that the authorities have mediocrely forgotten OUR GREAT PAST or want to forget, have blabbed in their actions and deeds. If the president has the political will, strategic thinking for scrapping the whole system in my opinion is NO. A simple example, according to various sources, we have from 22 to 37,5 million. CITIZENS OF RUSSIA live below the poverty line. That’s the answer where GALLERS row and move! And the speech at the press conference simply did not look convincing in terms of the socio-economic development of the country, NOT CONVINCING !!!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 December 2017 19: 49 New
      +2
      In fact, up to 22 million live below the poverty line - this is according to official figures, but we do not know how much they do not officially earn.
  15. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 09: 59 New
    +4
    Dear Roman! I think you're an optimist, I tell you this as a realist. Putin is part of the current system of power in Russia. The maximum that will be the distribution of a certain number of "nishtyakov" to the population, who do not fundamentally change the situation inside, well, and the maximum tightening of nuts by the Russian Guard and power blocks in general.
    1. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 15 December 2017 12: 21 New
      +2
      What do you break spears. In Russia, the ruling party, United Russia
      Again, the All-Russian Political Party "United Russia" is the Russian liberal-conservative political party, the largest political party of the Russian Federation, the "party of power".
      ..liberal conservative ... !!!
      “Liberal conservatism is a movement in conservatism, in which there are elements of liberalism. Key features: a more liberal attitude on moral and social grounds, a liberal attitude to the economy (in particular, the principles of state non-interference in the economy), environmental protection (green policy) . Considered moderately right ideology. ""
  16. invisibility
    invisibility 15 December 2017 10: 05 New
    +1
    Quote: Gardamir
    It’s time to begin to clean the cabinet from parasites.
    Six months later, you will be ashamed of these words.

    If you don’t stretch your legs ... From care ..
  17. Gardamir
    Gardamir 15 December 2017 10: 08 New
    14
    Gentlemen, supporters of the current president, but tell me, for God's sake, what are his merits? because everything that can negatively affect his image, you put in the section the cat left the kittens or explain the machinations of the State Department. But then Yeltsin, Stalin, Nikolai 2 and beyond are not to blame, because in those days cats threw kittens.
    He speaks quite frankly, considers himself a liberal, scored a government of liberals, what's wrong? The war in Chechnya is over, on the terms of the victory of Chechnya. Crimea is taken on the condition that Ukraine will not be friendly, and the lands from Kharkov to Odessa have never been Ukrainian.
    In his rhetoric, there is not even a hint of concern for the people, all support for the macroeconomic standards of the West, all the indefatigable desire to partner with the West. Forgives debts to the West, but forgets about the citizens of Russia.
    And finally, stop saying that he has no competition. And enough of this baby talk about the 90s. Want to praise his reign compare with the best years of Russia.
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 11: 01 New
      +7
      Dear Gardamir! Nobody from Putin’s ideological defenders will answer these questions, only those who pay for freelancing salaries will answer. Because then the whole structure under the name-veneration of the great Putin collapses.
      1. parma
        parma 15 December 2017 11: 33 New
        +7
        In order to answer what achievements you need to know what his plan is, to say what they have done and what not, compare proportionally ... And where is his program? Where is this same course, whether new or old ... What is it? As always compared with those places / times where it’s worse than ours now ... No, no one wants it to be like in Ukraine or like in the 90s (although it wasn’t all so bad there, they still survived, many even live better than with the union) .. It is necessary to compare with countries where they live better and think what is wrong with us, then achievements and mistakes are immediately visible ...
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 December 2017 13: 17 New
      +6
      Quote: Gardamir
      Forgives debts to the West, but forgets about the citizens of Russia.
      Forgives the whole world
      Year 2000. Write-off of 11-billionth (in dollar equivalent) debt to Vietnam.
      Year 2003. Write-off of Iraqi debt in the amount of 12 billion dollars.
      Year 2007. Russia is writing off 4,7 billion debt to Algeria in exchange for assurances from the Algerian authorities that new contracts were signed with Russia in the military-industrial sphere.
      Year 2007. Mongolia debited debt in 11,1 billion dollars.
      Year 2007. Russia forgives Afghanistan the same (about 11 billion dollars) amount of debt.
      Year 2008. Russia, in exchange for lucrative contracts, is writing off 4,6 billions of dollars of debt to Libya. Contracts then had to be quickly curtailed due to known events.
      Year 2010. Mongolia again. Write-off of Russian (non-Soviet) debt in the amount of 168 millions (not billions) of dollars.
      Year 2012. The Russian Federation is writing off a number of African countries debt of about 20 billion dollars.
      Year 2012. Written off 11-billionth (some kind of magic number of debt) DPRK.
      Year 2012. Debt of Kyrgyzstan in the amount of about 0,5 billion was written off.
      Year 2013. The Cuban debt is being restructured, which, according to some sources, amounts to about 30 billion dollars.
      If we summarize to identify the total figure of debt cancellation by Russia, it turns out that an amount of about $ 116 billion has been written off and restructured. This amount is comparable to the expenditures of local budgets of a dozen Russian regions. In general, the amount is more than impressive. https://topwar.ru/?newsid=25058


      So he also pushed new ones and continues to give
  18. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 15 December 2017 10: 09 New
    10
    Putin's press conference as a hint of a new course

    Question: "what course?" Something no “course”, and even more so, some kind of “new” there, I personally could not see ... like, it seems, the majority of listeners of this “blah-blah show” ... So the "experts" begin advise you to listen to this "conference" several times and look for the "allegorical" meaning where it has never been born ...
    So, the vector is marked. The main focus is on raising everything, and in the end - the well-being of Russian citizens.

    Yeah, "all" ... When they say like that, "all," they really mean "nothing" because "everything" is simply impossible to raise — strength isn’t enough — God forbid, at least "somewhere" outline the "rise" . Yes, and there was already a "raising of everything" -von, read the May decrees of the subject and where is their "implementation"? “Goose” - as the Ukrainians would say. there will also be another "increase in everything." And by the way, what did the subject say about the Central Bank? Type - that to it "no complaints"? What about the government? Also no complaints? Well, about Rodchenkov-type, "what to say now"? Well, well ... move forward, say ... wink
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 15 December 2017 10: 24 New
      +7
      I have some opinion. What is communication with the audience is a means of letting off steam. Like everything is not as bad as it seems, but it will be even better. Which is better, why, where, is not clear. But better in everything. In healthcare, education, Pence. providing. As it all resolves by itself. "There is no clear plan. I will steer myself. King."
      1. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 15 December 2017 12: 34 New
        +1
        Shahno
        "What is communication with the audience is a means of letting off steam."
        I thought the same thing but.
        Let's look from a different angle.
        There are many journalists of the world at the conference and the whole world listens to it. Journalists and the media are a means of communicating information to certain "ears" both external and within the country. And the subsequent analysis of their ratings and reactions
        Everything is simple.
    2. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 15 December 2017 12: 30 New
      +1
      If there is nothing, then one question for you - why are you so enraged ???
      No need to jump out of your pants ...
  19. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 15 December 2017 10: 09 New
    +2
    Come on laughing and where does he do his friends on the lake and judo repeat
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  21. Varyag77
    Varyag77 15 December 2017 10: 15 New
    +3
    Quote: Gardamir
    Gentlemen, supporters of the current president, but tell me, for God's sake, what are his merits? because everything that can negatively affect his image, you put in the section the cat left the kittens or explain the machinations of the State Department. But then Yeltsin, Stalin, Nikolai 2 and beyond are not to blame, because in those days cats threw kittens.
    He speaks quite frankly, considers himself a liberal, scored a government of liberals, what's wrong? The war in Chechnya is over, on the terms of the victory of Chechnya. Crimea is taken on the condition that Ukraine will not be friendly, and the lands from Kharkov to Odessa have never been Ukrainian.
    In his rhetoric, there is not even a hint of concern for the people, all support for the macroeconomic standards of the West, all the indefatigable desire to partner with the West. Forgives debts to the West, but forgets about the citizens of Russia.
    And finally, stop saying that he has no competition. And enough of this baby talk about the 90s. Want to praise his reign compare with the best years of Russia.

    At least saliva, but neither your uncle Zu nor any other communist will ever be at the helm of this country again. NEVER. You (the Communists) have already been weighed, measured, declared unfit and sent to the dustbin of history.
    So much to lose in 70 years of rule, it was necessary to manage. And from the whole galaxy of your leaders you should not be ashamed only for Stalin. So great ratio. 7 to 1. So sing your songs about "Putin's best" exclusively in your homegrown circles.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 15 December 2017 12: 23 New
      +5
      You (communists)
      Why are you spraying so saliva?
      Communism (from lat. Commūnis “general”) is a social and economic system based on social equality, public ownership of the means of production
      What's bad about it? Yes, it didn’t work out. But this is our past. What can you say good about our today?
    2. Romey
      Romey 15 December 2017 19: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: Varyag77
      Quote: Gardamir
      Gentlemen, supporters of the current president, but tell me, for God's sake, what are his merits? because everything that can negatively affect his image, you put in the section the cat left the kittens or explain the machinations of the State Department. But then Yeltsin, Stalin, Nikolai 2 and beyond are not to blame, because in those days cats threw kittens.
      He speaks quite frankly, considers himself a liberal, scored a government of liberals, what's wrong? The war in Chechnya is over, on the terms of the victory of Chechnya. Crimea is taken on the condition that Ukraine will not be friendly, and the lands from Kharkov to Odessa have never been Ukrainian.
      In his rhetoric, there is not even a hint of concern for the people, all support for the macroeconomic standards of the West, all the indefatigable desire to partner with the West. Forgives debts to the West, but forgets about the citizens of Russia.
      And finally, stop saying that he has no competition. And enough of this baby talk about the 90s. Want to praise his reign compare with the best years of Russia.

      At least saliva, but neither your uncle Zu nor any other communist will ever be at the helm of this country again. NEVER. You (the Communists) have already been weighed, measured, declared unfit and sent to the dustbin of history.
      So much to lose in 70 years of rule, it was necessary to manage. And from the whole galaxy of your leaders you should not be ashamed only for Stalin. So great ratio. 7 to 1. So sing your songs about "Putin's best" exclusively in your homegrown circles.

      They consider chickens in the fall ... And autumn promises to be very fun. Mr Putin and his friends haven’t taken the West seriously yet, preferring to cook this frog on very slow fire. I don’t know how he will get out, for sure all his usual show-offs will go into action, but the fact remains: the economic and political model of the Russian Federation is extremely vulnerable to external pressure, and there are no serious prerequisites for their change. It is very curious to look at the reaction of the guards to the tricks of their idol a la May 2014, when "suddenly" after the visit of the accountant of the junta ceased to be a junta ...
    3. zoolu350
      zoolu350 17 December 2017 14: 40 New
      0
      Opa Nostradamus drew. If I shouted in Donetsk at the beginning of 2013 that they would shoot at the APU, then most likely I would have been tapped into the front of my head and taken to Durkee, but that’s how it happened. So anything is possible. The USSR is a world of the future that will come anyway.
  22. KBR109
    KBR109 15 December 2017 10: 28 New
    +4
    Many copies were broken by colleagues, in the case and not. In short, my opinion is that he really wants to sit at any cost (and he will sit). There was no discussion of the observance of the Constitution by the authorities; its mention in general has become indecent. And, finally, his rule will become life-long - whether in the form of the head of the State Council, Parliament or some other stray.
  23. Radikal
    Radikal 15 December 2017 10: 39 New
    +7
    Putin's press conference as a hint of a new course
    Of the hints “you can’t sew a fur coat”, and the practical steps of the authorities suggest the opposite
    So, the vector is marked. The main focus is on raising everything, and in the end - the well-being of Russian citizens.
    This is a declaration for which nothing (and no one) stands. hi
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 December 2017 13: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Radikal
      This is a declaration for which nothing (and no one) stands.

      As the saying goes, "for all the good, against all the bad" fellow
  24. Mar.Tirah
    Mar.Tirah 15 December 2017 10: 40 New
    +3
    [quote = Rimlianin] except Crimea there is nothing. Although it is ambiguous here - they got Crimea, but they also lost all of Ukraine + western sanctions. In other words, my uncle would sit and not rock the boat! So it turns out?
    1. Antares
      Antares 15 December 2017 11: 54 New
      0
      Quote: Mar. Tira
      In other words, my uncle would sit and not rock the boat! So it turns out?

      there is such a theory. After all, the first Maidan of the Russian Federation did not give a damn, and it ended quickly and the thaw ensued. No sanctions were only worsening in Ukraine itself. Russia has not suffered. Even set the highest gas price and made good money on it.
  25. Alexander Mazin
    Alexander Mazin 15 December 2017 10: 58 New
    +4
    It is not a presidential matter, to increase the salary and welfare of citizens, for this there is a government. This is his area of ​​competence. And if the president tackles this problem, then he is either an amateur who has no idea what he should do, or an idler who takes their work from other specialists, which makes them idlers. So this is not a new course, but the old one, born yet by Yeltsin - to make all loafers, which will destroy the country.
    As for the new course. It is laid down in my Project of a fundamentally new State. the Soyuz system (known under Gorbachevsky as the “Holistic concept of perestroika”). So far, the interest of our rulers is observed in only one sector: how to steal this Project, and pass it off as ours. Not only the Russian Federation, but also the USA is concerned about this idea (especially since they have already voiced their position: “First we will build this system at home, and then - you”). So there will be no new course under Putin. Not his level, this task.
  26. Radikal
    Radikal 15 December 2017 11: 09 New
    +9
    Quote: free
    And you never thought why so? Why there is no order inside the country, etc.?

    Because for what happened in 1991, and what happened later - in the 90s no one answered! In every speech, the guarantor “laments” what “nightmare” has been going on during these years, but for some reason it would never occur to anyone to ask him who should answer for this. That is, there was a “nightmare”, people were impoverished, money was stolen, industry was destroyed, the army was ruined, secrets were stolen, people were dying, but there were no guilty ones? Was there a natural disaster? Force Majeure? These cataclysms that have occurred in recent years have specific names and surnames! And until they are named, and most importantly brought to justice in the country, nothing will change! There will be only “cosmetic” operations, such as the “landing” of Ulyukaev - nothing more! sad
  27. Alex Xorkam
    Alex Xorkam 15 December 2017 11: 15 New
    +6
    Read still a lot. lot. many times, but the fact of this will not change. There is an incapable team, incapable in the full meaning of the word. The team does not understand their own actions, not to mention the creation of something new. How will we manage the economy? How come? 10 years unresolved issue of "nightmare business." At the same time, some inarticulate actions, but to ask entrepreneurs - below the official’s dignity, to use the directed draft decision - are weak, even debate weakly. There is world experience in the Central Bank, but the world Central Banks serve the financial oligarchy and their experience in Russia is that recognition that our Central Bank has the same task and the main financial oligarch in Russia? And so in everything.
  28. Lucy
    Lucy 15 December 2017 11: 24 New
    0
    Quote: populist
    Everything is old.


    Did not specify a time parameter.
  29. Lucy
    Lucy 15 December 2017 11: 29 New
    +6
    I didn’t listen to the whole snowstorm.
    Again sat down to participate in the debate.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 15 December 2017 13: 23 New
      +7
      It has already been said that in debates they can ask questions, not those that Peskov chooses, but those for which there is no answer ...
  30. Rimlianin
    Rimlianin 15 December 2017 11: 43 New
    +3
    Well. Less than four years after the Crimea, the opinion of GDP has radically changed even in the HE.
  31. Radikal
    Radikal 15 December 2017 11: 54 New
    +5
    Quote: Rimlianin
    Well. Less than four years after the Crimea, the opinion of GDP has radically changed even in the HE.

    You don’t have to speak for everyone - I never had any illusions about him. sad
  32. Ivan Tartugai
    Ivan Tartugai 15 December 2017 12: 25 New
    +4
    Quote from the article:
    “The main thing on which it is necessary to focus the attention of both the authorities and the whole society are issues such as development of infrastructure, healthcare, education, this, as I said, high technology, increased labor productivity».

    This, literally word for word, is spoken by all presidential candidates, in all countries, at all times.
    And none of them also deals with the development of infrastructure, health care, education, or high technology, or raising labor productivity, and also in all countries and at all times.
    Everything goes by itself if it goes. And develops, as God wills.
    True, besides Stalin IV, he really was engaged in the development of infrastructure, and healthcare, and education, and high technology, and increasing labor productivity.
    But when it was.
    And now there’s only talk to say something and promises for the sake of promises.
  33. istepanov
    istepanov 15 December 2017 12: 38 New
    +6
    "But power should not be like a bearded man who lazily picks out cabbage from his beard and looks at how the state turns into some kind of muddy puddle, from which oligarchs pick out and catch a fish for themselves,
    in cabbage or the same member in the mouth?

    Having skipped the Olympics and all economic reforms, which allowed the systematic sack of the country by oligarchs, which became the object of international ridicule, the liberal government, in strict accordance with the Old Testament teachings, tried to accuse the president of this "bearded man who lazily picks out cabbage from his beard and looks at how the state is turning into some kind of muddy puddle ... "
    The standard method of Jewish discussion is HUCPA. (Transcendental lie)
    What should she do in the President’s speech, a question for his press service.
  34. Brushing
    Brushing 15 December 2017 12: 40 New
    +1
    Maybe I'm a brake, but I didn’t understand the hint ... wassat
  35. Suhov
    Suhov 15 December 2017 12: 46 New
    +8
    Quote: Knowing
    Apparently, the GDP is going to focus on improving the welfare of citizens and the development of the Russian economy.

    Blessed is he who believes ...
    In the article, two statements contradict each other.
    One side:
    “Without a doubt, everything should be aimed at ensuring that increase incomes of citizens, increase the income of our people. "

    And on the other:
    “The main thing on which it is necessary to focus the attention of both the authorities and the whole society are issues such as the development of infrastructure, healthcare, education, as I have already said, high technologies, labor productivity increase».

    How our managerial account managers increase productivity shows experience: by reducing real incomes of the population. Then their paper labor productivity increases.
    Implement breakthrough technologies, high-performance machines, achievements of academic science - this is not about them. They have no such convolutions in the brain.
    Increase labor productivity, create new effective weapons, etc. only engineers can really, but who asks them ...
    Now they rule paper rats.
    It is necessary as under Stalin:
    The task of the engineer is to create a method and / or device for solving the task by technical means;
    The accountant's task is to provide the engineer with resources.
    Who did not cope - to the hat.
    hi
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 15 December 2017 13: 22 New
      +6
      Quote: Sukhov
      How our managerial account managers increase productivity shows experience: by reducing real incomes of the population. Then their paper labor productivity increases.
      as I noted above, they are going to start by raising the retirement age hi
  36. demo
    demo 15 December 2017 12: 50 New
    +5
    The Olympic plush showed that one cannot count on a calm and peaceful coexistence with the West. Beat will be wherever you can hit. And there is no particular difference between the non-admission (and even tolerance on humiliating conditions) on the Olympic political games and the breakdown of the pipeline construction. They are still beating Russia, so all the methods and methods are good here.
    The methods are dirty. All the less facts and evidence, all the frantic propaganda. And the process is on the rise, starting with the 2014 year.

    A logical question arises.
    And why did those who should keep a “finger on the pulse” “rest on their laurels”?
    A rhetorical question.
    But it should, it just has to be a sequel.
    As they say, "the dead require revenge."
    Not really our homegrown oligarchs, fed up with leaps and bounds, the Russian bowels and bounties of the budget, will not be thrown off money for the organization of "International Legal Assistance" to Russian athletes?
    How much is that? A hundred or two million bucks.
    And start the persecution of all the villains, right on the list. IOC and WADA are the main facilities. Let the democratic court triumph - "the most humane in the whole world."
    The triumph should be such that these evil deeds are poor, naked and barefoot.
    Moreover, Western lawyers, and ours, too, “can damn it for money”. And not justify.
    But let Mutko and Zhukov have coffee for these lawyers in the morning, if they are no longer fit for anything.
  37. sergevonsohrn
    sergevonsohrn 15 December 2017 12: 50 New
    +1
    it should be noted the soft, "round" tone of Putin in assessing the most acute aspects of both foreign and domestic policy of Russia. this is understandable, it is not necessary to sharpen and, moreover, dramatize the situation on the eve of the elections! and the fact that Putin knows how to act quite tough in response to challenges (and there will be enough) - there is no doubt! wait and see....
  38. askme
    askme 15 December 2017 12: 54 New
    0
    It can be clearly seen that most of the comments that speak in disrespectful style about Putin’s activities are inadequate. They evaluate him from those positions, from those criteria on which Putin was not and is not. Accordingly, evaluating it from these positions is a sign of inadequacy.

    Putin stopped the collapse of the country? Yes.
    Somewhere Putin spoke from an ideological perspective, did he say that he was building a state, a society on an ideological basis? No!
    Accordingly, blame it on him - this is the absence of brains at least.

    Putin promised to raise the standard of living of people in the early 2000s? Yes. Completed - yes!

    He promised to strengthen the army and the vertical of power? Yes!

    So to say that Putin has no goals, no strategy - this is nonsense of criticism, and not objective criticism.

    Russia is not a state of one ideology. And it will not be.

    People want to live better, people want to grow. And Putin explained the country's development priorities, the priorities of the program for the next term.

    Those to whom it all seems stupid, blurry, shallow are themselves stupid, primitive and not deep.

    In the language of numbers, child benefits and much more are announced. This is reality, not chatter. Which can be obtained in the hands, and not in the ears. It is clear, of course, that retired fanatics who are stubborn in a communist style are all trifles, but for young parents these are all very important decisions. As well as mortgage decisions and so on. As well as decisions on education, on talented children and so on. That is a bet on the future. But they do not forget about pensioners. No neglect.

    And chatting, slandering Putin while sitting at a computer is everyone’s personal business. But such a minority. Do not you do the weather in the country. It is your choice and your destiny to be single, degrading, going nowhere. Putin will sympathize with you, but he will bet on the future, and not on the flawed old people with inadequate conceit, with continuous claims. God is your judge. People can be judged correctly only in their value system, in addition to the value systems of explicit criminals such as convinced Nazis. In other cases, this is how it works in life ....
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 15 December 2017 13: 06 New
      +1
      Yes, I agree in assessing the real achievements of the president. But turning Russia into Israel is a little utopia. The country is too big. Innovation, medicine, technology. It is very difficult and it is a real challenge.
      1. askme
        askme 15 December 2017 13: 19 New
        +1
        And who said that the sample is Israel ?? Israel is not at all equal to Russia. Absolutely different in scale and importance of the state, in role. No offense. With all due respect to the achievements of Israel and the Jews in general. Of course, you can learn a lot from the smart. No more.
        1. Shahno
          Shahno 15 December 2017 13: 31 New
          +3
          I agree that our role and that of our states are different. But the importance of technology (medicine, aerospace. Direction, etc.), and spiritual foundations is all an eternal topic. At least in the 21 century.
          1. askme
            askme 15 December 2017 13: 33 New
            0
            I completely agree)
    2. Radikal
      Radikal 15 December 2017 17: 35 New
      +8
      askme Today, 12:54
      People can be judged correctly only in their value system, in addition to the value systems of explicit criminals such as convinced Nazis. In other cases, this is how it works in life ..
      We are aware of their “values”, they have their own: offshore companies, children abroad, Mannerheim boards, “Wailing Walls”, Yeltsin Center, and “Prochka, Prochka” .... But you see, Bambino, how to explain to you more intelligibly - the fact is that the majority of the people turned out (not of their own free will) in a different system of values! And how to solve this problem? To declare (as you just made) this part of the people as outright criminals, outright Nazis, pensioners who have lost their minds, who else? Based on your words, we can conclude that this is the Guarantor's value system, including yours. Then of course - to our values ​​how far yours! What are you doing here on the site then ?! With such “values” !? You need to go to the Kremlin! Or are you already there? From there, you “instruct” us !? wassat
    3. zoolu350
      zoolu350 17 December 2017 15: 02 New
      0
      Quote: askme
      That is a bet on the future. But they do not forget about pensioners. No neglect.

      And chatting, slandering Putin while sitting at a computer is everyone’s personal business. But such a minority. Do not you do the weather in the country. It is your choice and your destiny to be single, degrading, going nowhere. Putin will sympathize with you, but he will bet on the future, and not on the flawed old people with inadequate conceit, with continuous claims. God is your judge. People can be judged correctly only in their value system, in addition to the value systems of explicit criminals such as convinced Nazis. In other cases, this is how it works in life ....

      Yeah, betting on a boy Kolya from Novy Urengoy - a wonderful future! About retirees generally fun, everything is done so that people do not live up to retirement.
      No, we are the majority of ordinary patriots, and you are a minority of individuals of the Russian oligarchy and their slaves, but you are still in power. You strive to destroy us, those who defend the country and work on its long lines, but if you succeed, soon the lackeys of the owners of the Fed and PLA will come behind your heads, because there will be no one to defend the country, because of you ... .. bullet and you will give them everything.
  39. demo
    demo 15 December 2017 12: 59 New
    +3
    “The main thing that the authorities and the whole society need to focus on is such issues as infrastructure development, healthcare, education, as I have already said, high technologies, increase in labor productivity.”
    "Without any doubt, everything should be aimed at increasing the incomes of citizens, increasing the incomes of our people."

    Without a doubt, high technology and healthcare with infrastructure are completely different directions and differently directed things. Trend, they say, is different.
    It’s one thing to build a hospital, to recruit staff, to treat people.
    Everything is clear and understandable. This is the duty of the state.
    The second thing is to design and implement new microchips for computers.
    And where is the state?
  40. noodles
    noodles 15 December 2017 13: 02 New
    +2
    An article about one comment about everything! What I liked at the press conference; - confident, able to control himself, with excellent knowledge of the problems of the country and the world, talking to that difficult audience, HEAD! Which, by virtue of his managerial all-forgiveness concept, his subordinates have to swell for all branches of power! He coped with that task brilliantly !!! What did not like: -An ugly organization of the conference! The disgusting and shameless behavior of journalists! For whom the main thing was to EXPLAIN ANY WAY TO PRIARISE! In content, each of us wanted to hear something that hurts! But in order to change the format of meetings with the President! First, let each minister together with the governor hold such meetings in the regions! I am convinced that it is not the business of the head of state to answer questions about the OMULA — it is up to him to demand HIS IDEAS AND INSTRUCTIONS FULLY COMPLETED And last: taking into account that the West ABLELY uses any information about our SATISFACTORY working executive branches of government, it’s probably time to stop playing cat and mouse with the people and openly call those WHO WORK or are not able to work professionally for the COUNTRY — NOT FOR YOUR POCKET!
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 18: 37 New
      +3
      smile I think people who are preparing to work in a foreign country are taught, at the very least, to "do a good face with a bad game." So a "self-confident person" is not necessarily sure what he is doing. His business is to assemble a team of like-minded people so that you yourself do not meddle in every hole. If such a system has not been created, it’s worthless to such a manager!
  41. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 15 December 2017 13: 11 New
    +4
    The program was supposed to be, about 5 years ago, when everything was on the rise. The time has gone. It seems that there are no more strength, no desire, no conditions.
  42. Kurochkin
    Kurochkin 15 December 2017 13: 20 New
    0
    At the pre-election debate, let's listen to Putin !!!
  43. Brushing
    Brushing 15 December 2017 13: 28 New
    +3
    Quote: Shahno
    Yes, I agree in assessing the real achievements of the president. But turning Russia into Israel is a little utopia. The country is too big. Innovation, medicine, technology. It is very difficult and it is a real challenge.


    Why turn Russia into Israel? )))

    Yes - the country is big, even huge ... but we are not 1.5 billion people like the Chinese and it’s quite possible to ensure a decent life for that bunch of 145 milens having such a HUGE and RICH country ...)))

    No one is forcing to sow all the fields from edge to edge ... to build up everything with cities and enterprises ... - it’s enough that everyone suffices, and let the rest be on conservation — a reserve for future generations ... nature, ecology and etc, etc ... it's cool .... read Israel is a summer resident on 6 acres, where you need to use every bit of land, and Russia is an estate where people should live happily and richly in strength that our ancestors took care of us leaving this GLOBAL reserve ...)))
    1. Cossack 471
      Cossack 471 15 December 2017 20: 29 New
      +2
      ESTABLISHED Here you are naive. you plant tomatoes. here just the Turks will be allowed to bring their own. because GEOPOLITICS and where do you sell yours? This year, grain has grown so much. that prices have fallen. the invisible hand of the market has not adjusted. The year of ecology has passed and the minister has already reported on the successes, but have you seen them? Maybe they began to collect garbage separately or sort it right in landfills?
  44. AsKet84
    AsKet84 15 December 2017 13: 29 New
    0
    Will we watch ?? It is necessary to act: From each according to the pit .. When in the majority of the population they believe that officials are obliged to them ... Nobody should move, except for a few activists, that they would at least ennoble their blood. shows the rest of the people from the same street: "They say I don’t need. There is no car. But it’s not mine, but my son-in-law .. Ugh ... And so on!
  45. Brushing
    Brushing 15 December 2017 13: 32 New
    +5
    Quote: askme
    It can be clearly seen that most of the comments that speak in disrespectful style about Putin’s activities are inadequate. They evaluate him from those positions, from those criteria on which Putin was not and is not. Accordingly, evaluating it from these positions is a sign of inadequacy.


    My dear, all the same sho vi enter into a discussion with inadequacies, if you consider yourself adequate ??? Are you a psychiatrist or just like to communicate with patients looking for associates, interlocutors or like-minded people in them ??? )))
  46. Naval
    Naval 15 December 2017 13: 41 New
    +1
    (An anecdote about the son of a former officer who exchanged a father’s dagger with a neighbor’s boy for a watch).
    "He says: well, show me the good watch, well done. But you know, bandits and robbers will come to us tomorrow, they’ll kill me, they’ll kill my mother, your older sister will be raped. And you will come out and say: good evening, Moscow time 12 hours 30 minutes. "


    Dirk is always ready ...... Comrade Supreme Commander-in-Chief! soldier
  47. wrangler100
    wrangler100 15 December 2017 13: 46 New
    +4
    Essentially no essence
  48. Brushing
    Brushing 15 December 2017 13: 54 New
    +5
    Quote: askme


    Putin stopped the collapse of the country? Yes.
    Somewhere Putin spoke from an ideological perspective, did he say that he was building a state, a society on an ideological basis? No!
    Accordingly, blame it on him - this is the absence of brains at least.

    Putin promised to raise the standard of living of people in the early 2000s? Yes. Completed - yes!

    He promised to strengthen the army and the vertical of power? Yes!

    So to say that Putin has no goals, no strategy - this is nonsense of criticism, and not objective criticism.

    Russia is not a state of one ideology. And it will not be.

    People want to live better, people want to grow. And Putin explained the country's development priorities, the priorities of the program for the next term.


    So he did the right thing ....- if you want to manage, then first of all you need to put things in order and guarantee your safety ... hi

    If everything went as it did before 1999, then we would now have the same strife and anarchy as in Ukraine .... where hunger, syphilis, devastation, neither the army, nor the economy, nor the law, and every crazy Georgian can ride with revolutionary slogans on city squares ... and today or tomorrow they will come to your office and give a kick ....

    - So Putin did everything right, but for the benefit of Russia itself and its people - the question is ....

    A country without ideology is not a country .... it is a territory ....

    Strengthened the army and other power structures - that's right .... but who else to rely on without ideology ???))))

    We have police, military, security guards and other people not creating GDP - 90% of the able-bodied population ... healthy men, and work up to 45 years and then also receive pensions ....

    And who will work ???))))

    The engineer receives a salary - 20-25 thousand .... cleaner 25 thousand ....

    Military and police officers and salaries of 50 thousand and benefits and housing and early retirement ....

    Why not create enterprises and train specialists for them, obliging budget students to work at the enterprise for 10-15 years, giving a decent salary, benefits and housing ??? - This is SO SIMPLE, UNDERSTANDING AND ELEMENTARY and all this is at the security officials ....

    Even the Communists I disliked knew what to do with the country and its people ....- education, work, ideology !!!

    Right now, you don’t need anyone, and now the youth does not dream of being engineers, scientists, designers, but wants to sit in the office or sell gadgets ....- it’s more comfortable, simpler and more profitable and understandable ...

    Moscow was turned into a gadyushnik, where no one really works and does not create GDP - solid coffee houses, beauty salons, pharmacies, shopping centers and other network troubles, all the prosperity of the Moscow authorities is based on cutting the budget, exploiting the labor of migrants and attracting investment in the construction sector of speculative capital for the construction of the next shopping center and LCD ....- EVERYTHING .... this is the way ANYWHERE !!!
    1. turbris
      turbris 15 December 2017 15: 51 New
      +1
      Still, yes - what ideology do you still need, you personally have long been ideologically savvy, everything is clear with you - the case is clinical, and cannot be rehabilitated. Give you any ideology - it will not help, there is one of its own. Do you even have an ideology concept or this: “They turned Moscow into a gadyushnik, where no one really works and does not create GDP - solid coffee houses, beauty salons, pharmacies, shopping centers and other network troubles, all the prosperity of the Moscow authorities is based on a budget cut , exploitation of labor of migrants and attracting investment in the construction sector of speculative capital for the construction of the next shopping centers and LCDs ....- EVERYTHING .... these are the ways ANYWHERE !!! Here you went into ecstasy, probably after that it became easier?
  49. Chaos
    Chaos 15 December 2017 14: 00 New
    +1
    Bruise here, splashing saliva with brulee))) I will vote for GDP! tchk)) GDP will be the president!
    1. Rimlianin
      Rimlianin 15 December 2017 14: 32 New
      +7
      And note, you are not on the Echo of Moscow, but on the previously "cotton" VO !! So the mood of people is changing. Refrigerator defeats TV. What will be the victory of the GDP in such a mood among the people, what is the legitimacy? Where are the notorious 86%?
      1. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 15 December 2017 15: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Rimlianin
        Refrigerator defeats TV

        Only if there is no Idea on the TV, but only cooking shows.
        Those who created the USSR did not have any refrigerators or televisions.
    2. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 18: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Chaos
      Bruise here, splashing saliva with brulee))) I will vote for GDP! tchk)) GDP will be the president!

      smile Did I sprinkle you with my saliva?
  50. trophy
    trophy 15 December 2017 14: 09 New
    12
    What is the new course? Wake up, you are fascinated. 17 years a man fools everyone. There was plenty of time. In our history, individuals solved more global tasks in incomparably shorter times. This citizen is trying to sit on two chairs and not forget about himself. Hence the principle of sharing benefits. In particular, “Bread and circuses” is the bulk (all these worthless championships, olympiads and indicative muddy trials of colonel-billionaires where it’s a no brainer that money is not a colonel, and whose money it’s not our dog thing). When he speaks about free medicine or the salary of state employees, one question begins to torment me: either he is a stupid person, or he is holding us for stupid people, or he is raving. Although there is one more option: permanent residence on his moon. In general, illusions are good, but not when the elderly have nothing to eat.
    1. turbris
      turbris 15 December 2017 15: 58 New
      +1
      Trofim - why don’t we have free medicine? I don’t know what makes you sick, when was the last time you were in the clinic? And salaries of state employees, do you even know what they are? Is there nothing for you to eat, or are you worried about the old people, but do you know that some young people who manage this very retirement of old people manage to live on their own? Maybe it's time for you to wake up and look around?
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 15 December 2017 18: 41 New
        +9
        Quote: turbris
        Trofim - why don’t we have free medicine? I don’t know what makes you sick, when was the last time you were in the clinic? And salaries of state employees, do you even know what they are? Is there nothing for you to eat, or are you worried about the old people, but do you know that some young people who manage this very retirement of old people manage to live on their own? Maybe it's time for you to wake up and look around?

        That is, Turbris, do you think that if young people live on the same amount as pensioners is an achievement of power? It is enchanting. We have come to the point that poverty has already become the norm and is justified by the authorities in every way.
        1. turbris
          turbris 18 December 2017 15: 39 New
          0
          andrej-shironov - it's all about the fact that young people sometimes need to try and work on their own, and not the old people beg for money for beer and cigarettes. There are those who, even at the age of 30, still cannot find themselves in any way, live with their parents and wait for them to vacate their living space. Those who want to earn, they earn, and those who do not want to trouble themselves - those are mostly about power and unbearable living conditions.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 18 December 2017 15: 43 New
            +4
            Tube, where do you work?
      2. Cossack 471
        Cossack 471 15 December 2017 20: 36 New
        +3
        My wife has a pension of 8300. how will the young people manage to live on her pension if she herself is not enough? She didn’t lie on the sofa. work experience
    2. Chaos
      Chaos 15 December 2017 18: 57 New
      0
      Please understand that no one will build a bright future for you. Neither God, nor king and hero. Only you! So you can rely on someone all your life.