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12 December 2017 of the year was the judgment day for Nord Stream-2.

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12 December 2017 of the year was the judgment day for Nord Stream-2.



On Tuesday, there were two momentous events at once. First, the authorities of the German federal state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern approved the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, and second, an explosion occurred at the OMV gas hub in Baumgarten in the morning. As a result, Russian gas deliveries to Italy, Slovenia and part of Hungary were temporarily suspended.

In the morning of December 12 2017, Deutsche Welle, citing the DPA news agency, reported that the mining department of the German city of Stralsund had issued a permit for the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

And the resolution itself is dated 2 of November of the current year.

Thus, this was the first official permit issued by European licensing authorities for the construction of the second phase of the Nord Stream. According to the document, the consortium can build a section of the pipeline that runs along the German continental shelf even today.



As we know, there are many opponents of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline. And first of all, these are the Baltic countries, Denmark and Poland, for the actions of which Washington's ears clearly stick out.

So far, Gazprom and its consortium partners have real problems only with Denmark, through the territorial waters of which the 139 km of pipe must pass. But even if Copenhagen prohibits laying a pipe over its territory (that is, along the route of the first stage), this will not be fatal for Nord Stream-2. The pipe may well pass just to the south, through as yet neutral waters.

In view of the unresolved legal problems between Poland and Denmark, there is a small corridor in the Baltic Sea through which a pipe can be laid.

This will somewhat delay the implementation of the project, since this section will have to be coordinated with the EU, but will completely remove the “Danish problem”.

And this is all well remembered. In general, it seems to me that Copenhagen is simply bargaining with Gazprom and wants to knock off its “dividends”. I think Denmark will finally agree on the main route, and therefore the big problems of the Russian gas corporation from the "kicking" of Copenhagen are not expected.

Meanwhile, the second event that took place yesterday, played into the hands of Gazprom very well.



So, on Tuesday morning, Italy, Slovenia and part of Hungary were left without supplies of Russian “blue” fuel because of an explosion at the Austrian gas distribution station in Baumgarten.

In Italy, a state of emergency was declared and a temporary restriction was imposed on the use of gas. Slovenia and Hungary had fewer problems. The explosion on the main gas pipeline immediately made the Europeans look somewhat differently at the problems of laying new Russian gas pipelines.

As it turned out, a lot of gas pipelines do not exist. If Italy had a fallback, today's problems could have been avoided. But it would be possible if no one interfered in its time with the construction of the “South Stream”, one branch of which was supposed to end in southern Italy. According to the original plan, the “southern gas pipe” from Russia, bypassing Ukraine, should have been laid before the end of 2015. But Washington intervened, and now Italy is biting its elbows and saving gas, as it has been doing for the fourth year in Kiev, another victim of gas insanity.

It is to be expected that one of the likely consequences of yesterday's emergency in Austria will be not only a more loyal attitude of European officials to the Nord Stream-2, but also the intensification of negotiations on the second branch of the Turkish Stream. As we know, Gazprom intends to build it only after clarification has been made on the final consumers of gas. Just three countries that suffered from the explosion in Austria, ironically, are most interested in this alternative, and probably very soon we can wait for the conclusion of contracts and ... pipe laying.

In fact, it was the presence of this bottleneck in the European system of gas pipelines that caused the idea of ​​the South Stream. As life has shown, these concerns were valid.

In general, it was high time for Europe to reflect on the problem of diversifying Russian gas supplies. Yes, it is precisely the diversification of the supply of not just gas, but Russian gas. Time has already shown that it is Russia that is the most reliable and most profitable supplier of blue fuel to the EU countries, and the political aspects of such cooperation are largely contrived and work primarily for competitors who want to sell their gas to Europe.



Do you remember 2014 the year when 17 June near the town of Lokhvitsa of Poltava region on the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipeline exploded? As it turned out later, it was a terrorist attack that occurred shortly after the corresponding threats sounded from the lips of Ukrainian nationalists.

Most likely, he was committed by one of them on a team from Washington. Moscow was blamed, of course, but no one believed this nonsense, except Zoryan Shkiryak and Anton Gerashchenko.

It was then that the Europeans understood that something had to be done with the “Ukrainian gas problem”. And it is somewhat symbolic that exactly a year after this “incident”, 18 June 2015, a protocol of intent was signed within the framework of the 19th St. Petersburg International Economic Forum, which very quickly (September 4 of the same year) turned into a shareholder agreement Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline.

So, we see that those countries that are able and willing to defend their interests and are ready to go against the will of Washington (Germany in the first place) will very soon have confidence that no chance will force them to be in the position of today's Italy.

And the Italians can only wish for patience and prudence. Patience to survive a difficult time, and prudence to make the right conclusions from your bitter experience.
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      1. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 13 December 2017 07: 24
        +5
        so who, after all, blew up the Austrians? ....
        1. dSK
          dSK 13 December 2017 08: 40
          +2
          Hello Dan!
          Quote: DanSabaka
          so who?
          Most likely a TB disorder. He worked in the main electric networks, there it is very strict, before going out - mandatory safety training, as in all hazardous industries. "The explosion led to an extensive fire. According to the preliminary version, the explosion could have occurred due to technical reasons," the OMV company, which owns 51% of the hub, said in a statement. According to analysts, the gas hub in Baumgarten annually receives about 40 billion cubic meters of gas from Russia and Norway. It is from here that gas also goes to Germany and Italy. Despite statements by specialists who have already promised to restore gas supplies in the coming hours, the price of gas at a hub in Baumgarten with delivery grew one and a half times - 413 dollars per 1000 cubic meters. It is known that gas is currently being traded already at 537 dollars per 1000 cubic meters, transfers "Interfax". hi
          1. Rostovchanin
            Rostovchanin 13 December 2017 10: 26
            +8
            And we, the shift city for the builders of SP-2, began to build another October 15 repeat
            1. Evgeniy667b
              Evgeniy667b 13 December 2017 12: 17
              +1
              There is a feeling that SP2 will both begin and fade !!!
              1. kozerog
                kozerog 13 December 2017 12: 33
                16
                In the wrong place, it seems, "feel" ...
                1. Evgeniy667b
                  Evgeniy667b 13 December 2017 12: 48
                  +3
                  Wait and see! I have not had a glitch yet.
                  1. AnpeL
                    AnpeL 13 December 2017 14: 27
                    +8
                    All of this is certainly good and, most likely, our Gazprom is happy about this event (or is not happy - supplies are currently reduced, which means sales are falling). Another thing is more interesting, because they did something like one northern stream. Does it not work? Why is one more needed? Or are we selling too little gas on it? It seems like on the contrary it is necessary to protect resources. In the end, if there is nowhere to put gas, I can offer to gasify my village. I’ll indicate the address. All residents agree.
                    1. Dimmedroll
                      Dimmedroll 13 December 2017 16: 51
                      +8
                      Your village is too small in profit. And Germany is huge. And yes, there is little gas flowing along one type branch. They want more. Well, those who are sitting on the resource are ready to sell it anywhere, (Which is sad, since money overshadows everyone's eyes). But no one will abandon their appearance and rustling in your pocket. Although in industries such as school and medicine there should not be a cash flow at all. Naturally, apart from salary payments.
                      1. Krabik
                        Krabik 13 December 2017 18: 10
                        +3
                        But it was the village that supplied the soldiers to the troops to capture and control the territory from which gas is extracted.

                        In addition, GAZPROM's “people's tragedy” undermines local production and dates back to Germany, which I think is not entirely appropriate.

                        PS
                        I hoped that the EU refused SP-2, but alas, a bummer ...
                      2. Magadan
                        Magadan 14 December 2017 00: 42
                        0
                        there are only thousands of such villages.
                    2. Evgeniy667b
                      Evgeniy667b 13 December 2017 19: 11
                      +4
                      Verb truth AnpeL! Miller will crack soon. They are already Russian villages, and not only, have long been sent to ignore. But parasites use the national treasure to fill their pockets. The rent seems to be just the Khanty received, now I do not know. At the same time, someone naively believes that the gas belongs to Russia !!! Which side ???
                    3. turbris
                      turbris 13 December 2017 19: 33
                      +4
                      Have you turned to your local authorities? Is your village in terms of gasification of the area for example? Or just like that, for the most part decided to talk, immediately bothered by the Nord Stream?
                    4. Nyrobsky
                      Nyrobsky 13 December 2017 22: 43
                      +3
                      Quote: AnpeL
                      All of this is certainly good and, most likely, our Gazprom is happy about this event (or is not happy - supplies are currently reduced, which means sales are falling). Another thing is more interesting, because they did something like one northern stream. Does it not work? Why is one more needed? Or are we selling too little gas on it? It seems like on the contrary it is necessary to protect resources. In the end, if there is nowhere to put gas, I can offer to gasify my village. I’ll indicate the address. All residents agree.
                      Well, each pipe is designed for a certain pressure, which determines the volume of gas pumped. If it is possible to drive 10 billion cubic meters through the pipe, then it will not pump 30 billion cubic meters already - stitches will not stand stupidly. And there are both opportunities and requirements for volumes that are more than 10 billion. So there is a need for a second thread. And an accident (accidental or intentional) in any part of SP-1 will be insured by crossings through SP-2, which will ensure uninterrupted gas supply in any case. Recently, due to the “vagaries” of dill, Russia pumped significant volumes of gas through the Opal municipality, which, despite the European “sympathies” for the junta, provided gas deliveries higher than those contracted in case the ukropostan discharged some kind of blockade of Russian transit. So underground storage facilities in the same Italy, Hungary and Slovenia are pumped under traffic jam. Save resources? Meaning? We can’t eat them even for hundreds of years, while we take non-shale gas by fracturing. Of the hidden deposits using this technology, we will be able to take the same volumes in the future, but today it is not profitable for us. These mattresses are tearing their land for oil shale, with a profitability of 25-40 dollars per thousand cubic meters. If lower, then it is not profitable for them. As for your village, then you need to evaluate its proximity to transport accessibility and the prospect of existence for at least the next 50 years. You can demand to throw a pipe to Agafya Lykova in the Taiga dead end, but if it is not cost-effective, then there is nothing to talk about.
                      1. NKT
                        NKT 13 December 2017 23: 15
                        +1
                        We also use hydraulic fracturing in the development of deposits, and the cost of oil shale is about $ 65-70.

                        Hydraulic fracturing is used not only on “shales”, but everywhere where reservoir permeability is low.
                      2. Nikolay Fedorov
                        Nikolay Fedorov 14 December 2017 15: 52
                        +4
                        Quote: Nyrobsky
                        ... As for your village, then you need to evaluate its proximity to transport accessibility and the prospect of existence for at least the next 50 years. You can demand to throw a pipe to Agafya Lykova in the Taiga dead end, but if it is not cost-effective, then there is nothing to talk about.

                        The issue of gas supply to millions of Russian citizens living not only in villages, but also in cities with population over one million people, does not lie on the plane of "cost-effective - cost-effective". Look at the composition of Gazprom shareholders, and it will become clear to you what they are interested in doing and what is not interesting. None of the shareholders of Gazprom is tormented by the question "Well, what else would be good for Russia to do?". Their interests and their entire environment lie outside of Russia. That is why, over the past few years, in Russian million-plus cities, new residential buildings have been equipped with electric stoves, not gas. What can we say about the forgotten village?
                    5. opus
                      opus 14 December 2017 00: 07
                      +4
                      Supplies are limited. The price has reached the level of 2013. Gazprom is drinking champagne.
                      Tsem peremoga
                    6. Sasha_Sar
                      Sasha_Sar 15 December 2017 09: 44
                      0
                      At best, Gazprom will throw a branch to the village, and lay pipes around the village (at the expense of the villagers). In our regional cities, not everyone has gas. So, the connection of gas in 2014, in the regional center cost me 200 thousand rubles. 20 thousand permission and connection, 10 thousand project, 75 thousand is a pipe along the site to the house and along it. The neighbor is 90 thousand, so the main pipe is his property, they laid it at their own expense. The question your villagers have is such a means, then good luck.
              2. Kent0001
                Kent0001 13 December 2017 23: 45
                0
                I think if they begin, they will finish the topic.
              3. igog
                igog 13 December 2017 23: 53
                0
                still tell about the drawn Crimean bridge.
            2. vrazhin
              vrazhin 13 December 2017 14: 33
              +1
              All right, all according to plan. Well, if there is any delay, then .... only shhhh !!!! to anyone !!!! Although they were bullshit, still Russian hackers blew up ....
        2. Vend
          Vend 13 December 2017 10: 28
          +5
          Quote: DanSabaka
          so who, after all, blew up the Austrians? ....
          But they can turn this case in a different way. Motivating for security, here's a look. gas pipeline accident and no gas. We need to look at the reaction of the United States. If they begin to promote the idea of ​​the safety of liquefied gas, it means the accident is their doing.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus 13 December 2017 11: 09
            +3
            the explosion speaks in favor of UP. not SP2
            I pass Kohlov and past the Austrian, immediately to Italy and b. Yugoslavia
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 13 December 2017 10: 29
          +2
          Bandera at 100%
        4. demo
          demo 13 December 2017 10: 36
          +6
          What is not clear?!
          Putin, personally, together with Erdogan, under the cover of Shoigu, brought a ton of dynamite and rushed.
          And then, as if nothing had happened, they gave a press conference.
          Tomorrow, Washington will announce that according to irrefutable data that are secret, everything was just that. And the next sanctions are introduced!

          The strong is always powerless to blame:
          To that in History we hear the darkness of examples
          But we do not write stories;
          And here about how in Fables speak.

          Although Russia is no longer a lamb.
          And the USA is a wolf, but not that one. Not that one anymore.
          1. vrazhin
            vrazhin 13 December 2017 14: 38
            +1
            That she ... hackers then ... Russian .... any striped crested essepert tooth will give ....
        5. boboss
          boboss 13 December 2017 12: 20
          0
          hairy arm ....))))
        6. romanru4
          romanru4 13 December 2017 12: 23
          0
          In short, handshake.
        7. Vlad.by
          Vlad.by 13 December 2017 15: 28
          +2
          Is there any doubt ??? 100500% that Russian hackers were ideologists. And who will be appointed as the executor - whether it’s a technical failure, a human factor or a saboteur - doesn’t matter! I am generally surprised that Putin’s identity has not yet been found.
        8. Sergey53
          Sergey53 13 December 2017 21: 09
          0
          Quote: DanSabaka
          so who, after all, blew up the Austrians? ....

          So the air conditioning pulled from overload. And the subsequent links of one chain. In Ukraine, one must ask, they are very versed in these matters.
        9. opus
          opus 13 December 2017 23: 23
          0
          Technological factor (filter), relax. Not kaakly and not nya.
          wink
        10. igog
          igog 13 December 2017 23: 37
          0
          who cares?
        11. yana406
          yana406 14 December 2017 07: 47
          0
          who who is clear well who
        12. PlotnikoffDD
          PlotnikoffDD 17 December 2017 11: 56
          0
          surely Miller’s business card is lying at the scene of the fire.
          and oddly enough, the explosion is primarily beneficial to Gazprom.
        13. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin 17 December 2017 13: 39
          0
          Quote: DanSabaka

          5
          DanSabaka December 13, 2017 07:24 ↑
          so who, after all, blew up the Austrians? ....

          Miller, of course. He’s “daddy Müller”, aka “Eustace”, aka “Stirlitz” ...
  2. Cxnumx
    Cxnumx 13 December 2017 06: 43
    +7
    Judgment Day? Judgment day in the eschatology of Abrahamic religions is the last day of the existence of the world, when God will make the final judgment on people in order to identify the righteous and sinners. In a figurative sense - the end of the world.
    hardly the current situation "doomsday" can be called rather the opposite.
    and our European to partners you might wish ... brains.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 December 2017 10: 31
      +2
      We have survived these "doomsdays" so much that the West never dreamed of.
      1. opus
        opus 13 December 2017 23: 26
        0
        Yes, especially with petrikhestvom.
        Oud will now be against Lenenergo (such 3.14 ***) in the Lomonosov r'ne lo.
        Let them go like a goose (that is a story with a cable on the bottom of the Gulf of Finland) = chubsystay, they are not under jurisdiction
  3. andrewkor
    andrewkor 13 December 2017 06: 43
    +2
    “Look for someone to profit from!” - this is the answer to sabotage! Such explosions (provocations) just do not happen, "Maine", Toknin, etc. !!!
    1. Lycan
      Lycan 13 December 2017 09: 53
      +1
      And with the 1988 earthquake in Armenia, and floods in Asia - is this the same?
      1. andrewkor
        andrewkor 13 December 2017 10: 14
        +2
        Dear, you do not confuse a man-made disaster with a natural cataclysm. If only to blurt out, at least something, but essentially a problem? What did not suit you the ancient Roman aphorism?
        1. Lycan
          Lycan 13 December 2017 11: 14
          0
          Quote: andrewkor
          What did not suit you the ancient Roman aphorism?

          At least the fact that it is not applicable to all technological disasters. You want to say that all the fall of our cosmic. and aviation technology - is it entirely the result of sabotage by those who "benefit"?
          I think this will show the investigation.
          As the investigation showed (if you believe the Roskosmos press service through the prism of RBC) - there - an old flaw. It also has a place to be. And there is no need to get hung up on the ancient Roman dogmas. Negligence, wear and tear, defects and defects in the devices have not been canceled. Alas.
        2. 97110
          97110 13 December 2017 12: 50
          +2
          Quote: andrewkor
          But essentially the problem?

          This is the Gribauskaitin case. There is a terminal that nobody needs. Money for the maintenance of how much passion eats. Hopelessness will make you want to blow something up. According to the old ss tradition.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 December 2017 10: 35
        +1
        The earthquake in Armenia is the work of human hands, but not of nature.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 13 December 2017 12: 27
          0
          Quote: tihonmarine
          The earthquake in Armenia is the work of human hands, but not of nature.

          Who rocked the earth like that?
        2. vrazhin
          vrazhin 13 December 2017 14: 44
          0
          Gee-gee ....
          It reads like a statement ....
          Remember the character ,, Absolutely, ,,,? Looks like his thoughts ...
      3. Captain Pushkin
        Captain Pushkin 17 December 2017 13: 42
        0
        Quote: Lycan
        Lycan December 13, 2017 09:53 ↑
        And with the 1988 earthquake in Armenia, and floods in Asia - is this the same?

        Exactly. Look for someone who benefited from the meteorite that formed the Gulf of Mexico and everything will become clear.
        And who benefits from it? Those who produce oil in the Gulf of Mexico.
  4. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 13 December 2017 06: 48
    +3
    Italians can only wish patience and judgment
    Prudence should be wished throughout Europe. I hope that the incident will at least slightly sober up the pro-American heads of European bureaucrats and politicians.
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 13 December 2017 07: 08
      10
      What about "bros"? Are they still freezing? Or they came to understand that you need to live your own mind, and not the tips of the Yusovites!
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 13 December 2017 10: 39
        +2
        Brothers freeze "and their corrupt rulers dividends count.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 December 2017 10: 36
      +1
      Patience and discretion with permission from the United States.
    3. Captain Pushkin
      Captain Pushkin 17 December 2017 13: 44
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      I hope that the incident will at least slightly sober up the pro-American heads of European bureaucrats and politicians.

      It is unlikely. They have that gas to one place ... They have a bigger dough and that the honestly earned prosecutor and judge would not be taken away.
  5. inkass_98
    inkass_98 13 December 2017 07: 08
    +7
    Investigators from the best homes of the CIA, FBI and SBU will quickly find traces of Terran’s boots at the scene of the blast, which, for the sake of the blast, altered the course of the plane, returning from Turkey. In an extreme case - another certificate of Field Marshal of the GRU FSB NKVD General Staff of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation.
  6. Masya masya
    Masya masya 13 December 2017 07: 13
    +7
    "Austrian authorities ruled out the terrorist attack on one of the largest gas distribution hubs in the country ... According to police, the cause was a technical malfunction." - RT
    judiciousness to draw the right conclusions from your bitter experience.

    Think for yourself, decide for yourself ...
    To have or not to have ... wink
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 13 December 2017 10: 27
      +5
      Quote: Masya Masya
      "Austrian authorities ruled out the terrorist attack on one of the largest gas distribution hubs in the country ... According to police, the cause was a technical malfunction." - RT

      And I would not be in a hurry to dismantle the version of the attack. Technical problems may well be artificially created. So I do not exclude the possibility that someone expected that without gas Italy would pay attention to American LNG. So let's see now what conclusions and what place will be made.
      1. Masya masya
        Masya masya 13 December 2017 10: 36
        +5
        I agree, it’s not yet evening ... they will instruct on the "correct" version ...
  7. ul_vitalii
    ul_vitalii 13 December 2017 07: 14
    +8
    They will make, warm and forget, under the purr of the Americans. We will see.
  8. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 13 December 2017 08: 07
    0
    What continuation of this story will be difficult to guess ... the "partners" are full of surprises, 100% should not be counted on logic. plus looking back at the regional committee ..
  9. Shukshin
    Shukshin 13 December 2017 08: 18
    10
    But nobody is going to gasify Russia, Russia?
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 13 December 2017 10: 42
      +4
      Our grandfathers and great-grandfathers drowned with firewood, well, perhaps we will have to. Gas is needed by the "golden billion".
    2. Navigator Basov
      Navigator Basov 13 December 2017 12: 27
      0
      Well, what does it mean: not going to? You can google, or religion does not allow? Yes, gasification is lame, but nobody is going to abandon it, and strong statements are being made. Of course, I will not check them.
      http://www.ngv.ru/upload/iblock/bf7/bf757935eb0a3
      d60561553c94851940e.pdf
      http://svpressa.ru/economy/article/63808/
      By the time of the collapse of the USSR, all occupied little brothers who still require indemnification for the occupation, but themselves remained at the level of gasification at 30 — 40%, are now reaping the benefits.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 13 December 2017 08: 22
    0
    Well, now the Germans will run over the Danes, so much so that they will bury fat from them. The burghers will quickly figure out how much it will cost to “winter freeze”!
  11. Sverdlov
    Sverdlov 13 December 2017 08: 30
    0
    Quote: DanSabaka
    so who, after all, blew up the Austrians? ....

    "Green men" ... In the sense - aliens ...
  12. thinker
    thinker 13 December 2017 09: 31
    0
    And Italians can only wish for patience and prudence.

    You can also wish Yamal LNG to them on the burners. Italy has two LNG terminals, in Portovenere and near the city of Rovigo.
  13. bratchanin3
    bratchanin3 13 December 2017 10: 09
    +1
    "To draw the right conclusions ..." - fresh giving, but hard to believe.
  14. Evgenijus
    Evgenijus 13 December 2017 10: 24
    0
    An accident at a gas hub in Austria showed who spat in her own well. Now they swallow snot, but their own ... And they also call themselves "Europe". But in fact - "imbeciles" turned out to be.
  15. Oleg Tolstoy
    Oleg Tolstoy 13 December 2017 10: 37
    +1
    But the Italian women, even if they were more helpful and independent, could even get the KHL hockey club at the expense of Miller’s dad’s advertising budgets, as once in the 12-13th - freeloaders Ukrainians who were penniless from Russian pensioners “poked on the pucks of the ghane’s puck” laughing So no. captured Romanians. with captive Bulgarians. who cried, but ate a cactus from Washington, they all broke it off! bully
  16. Alexander Russian
    Alexander Russian 13 December 2017 10: 38
    +1
    And why are you so happy. Simple people, anyway, have nothing to do with this.
    1. Oleg Tolstoy
      Oleg Tolstoy 13 December 2017 10: 52
      +1
      And what do you mean by "common people"? Is 70 ordinary Gazprom employees, or 6 Gazprom / Beltransgaz workers simple or complex? And consumers in Europe, who use boilers with automatic equipment and switching on via the Internet, and do not go to the old age for bundles of brushwood, are these “ordinary people”?
    2. kozerog
      kozerog 13 December 2017 12: 55
      +1
      Oh, how many of them there are in Russia, the “defenders” of the common people ... you would only have to “fuck” something ... and the common people, he himself, will figure out how to live, with whom and for how much ... people, he doesn’t want to "fuck" anyone ... he will figure it out ...
  17. Zolotse
    Zolotse 13 December 2017 10: 55
    +5
    They burst into tears that there would be no gas in Italy and Hungary, and that there was no gas in the houses 100 km from St. Petersburg (the capital of Gasprom), they only promise for many years - this does not concern any of the officials. This is not some kind of gardening, but historical settlements.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 13 December 2017 14: 36
      +1
      In Italy and Hungary, they pay neatly for gas, but in St. Petersburg it is not a fact. Especially nearby.
      1. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 14 December 2017 00: 02
        +1
        Quote: Victor N
        and in St. Petersburg - not a fact. Especially nearby.

        We have such a topic. yes About a week ago, passing by one house, I “caught my eye” on the announcement of gas debtors living in this house ... Ouch ... Amounts of 12-15 thousand rubles fellow And there are many such houses in St. Petersburg. This is how and how long it takes to dynamically pay ?! Suppose, for my apartment, the cost per month per person is about 65 rubles (cubic meter = 5,97 rubles) ... People stupidly do not pay for years. Immediately: do not offer pensioners, because they are, precisely, the most disciplined payers. As a rule, competent and solvent organisms do not pay themselves. There was a case with a TV report where the "young family" of debtors, when they came to jam their gas, stated that "... well, this is not much." wassat This is how we live, but how such organisms begin to swing rights when they, the "unfortunate" begin to shake for moshna. And, apparently, even at some forums they vilify "robbers from Gazprom." Sometimes it’s easy to find a thief, just look in the mirror.
  18. dmitry.kashkaryow
    dmitry.kashkaryow 13 December 2017 11: 17
    0
    Quote: andrewkor
    You did not like the ancient Roman aphorism?

    The aphorism is smart, but it is not absolute. Gouging is not only in Russia, it is also gouging in Austria! Tends to appear out of time and out of place!)))
  19. lukewarm
    lukewarm 13 December 2017 11: 18
    +4
    In view of the unresolved legal problems between Poland and Denmark, there is a small corridor in the Baltic Sea through which a pipe can be laid.

    laughing When problems are solved between Poland and Denmark, problems will begin at the pipe. Our "national heritage" with great tenacity sticks its pipes wherever possible. Only villages sit without water and gas. Cities 200 km from non-rubber live on imported liquefied gas. The success of gazmyas does not cause me special enthusiasm, because these successes will not affect the welfare of the population, the Russian Federation, but will lead to the enrichment of Mr. Miller's ally of Chubais. Someone from the Echo will get more opportunities to pour diarrhea in our heads. Something like this. Blowing up? Disputes of economic entities, no more. IMHO, there is nothing to make from pipe wars an analogue of the Great Patriotic War. They fight there not for Russia but for the money of a miller and a kleptocratic gang.
    Threat.
    1. kozerog
      kozerog 13 December 2017 12: 49
      +1
      And you, such a reasonable one, are proposing in the villages of 2-3 houses for 100-200 km to run the main gas pipeline ?! Indeed, "involuntarily" ...
      1. Steelmaker
        Steelmaker 13 December 2017 19: 01
        +1
        In Japan, because of one schoolgirl, an electric train runs to a remote prefecture twice a day.
        That is why they have Kruzak Prado and a chord, and we have a grant and a UAZ patriot
    2. Victor N
      Victor N 13 December 2017 14: 33
      +1
      Give yourself the trouble to watch on the internet how diligently the population pays for water and gas, especially in rural areas. And you will immediately understand why there are few who want to provide villages. A large part of the proceeds from the sale of gas goes to the state budget and pension fund.
      I recommend sometimes reading economic periodicals.
  20. Bakht
    Bakht 13 December 2017 11: 44
    +1
    Interesting article title. I believed that Judgment Day is the last day of the existence of the world.
    1. kozerog
      kozerog 13 December 2017 12: 46
      0
      Well, it is - in winter and without our gas, the kapets will be pampered in Europe ... it’s "flogged" itself ...
  21. Navigator Basov
    Navigator Basov 13 December 2017 11: 58
    0
    These are all Russian hackers, not otherwise. The gas terminal was blown up, breaking into control, and in Stralsund just the database was tweaked.
  22. Efimiuch
    Efimiuch 13 December 2017 12: 04
    +1
    NOT likely! What happened
    In no media can I find Russia’s accusation of sabotage.
    1. kozerog
      kozerog 13 December 2017 12: 42
      0
      Well, it seems that in the "old" Europe there are still some places left decency ... sometimes blush ...
  23. Nikolai Vorobyov
    Nikolai Vorobyov 13 December 2017 12: 23
    0
    But they can ascribe this explosion to us.
  24. kozerog
    kozerog 13 December 2017 12: 39
    0
    “There is no mind ...” gathered everyone in the EC - “here, God, that we are not good” ...
  25. BAI
    BAI 13 December 2017 13: 30
    0
    In view of the unresolved legal problems between Poland and Denmark, there is a small corridor in the Baltic Sea through which a pipe can be laid.

    Well, what is the hope for this corridor? As soon as they resolve this dispute (and it is possible to unite quickly against Russia), the pipe will be in the territorial waters of the Russophobic state (in any situation), which will require its removal.
  26. Mercenary
    Mercenary 13 December 2017 14: 16
    +3
    Some kind of dreary MATCHING about this!
    1, gas from the bowels of Russia does not belong to the Russians. (this is if, according to the Constitution)
    2, If Miller said that gas for Russians after entering all flows would cost 1 ruble per month for everyone in the country!
    3, Russia pays for the cost and production of pipes, pays for their laying in the seas and on land.
    4, Gasification is beneficial to Gazprom in Geyrop, and not ours (paperwork and gas supply less than 10 meters, costs 260 - 320 thousand.
    So, what's the difference, what is being laid there and who is good for it.
  27. Conductor
    Conductor 13 December 2017 15: 43
    0
    Quote: kozerog
    And you, such a reasonable one, are proposing in the villages of 2-3 houses for 100-200 km to run the main gas pipeline ?! Indeed, "involuntarily" ...

    Not Mlyn, freeze in all villages and towns and Miller and Co. start financing Chicago Red Bulls
  28. Nemesis
    Nemesis 13 December 2017 17: 29
    0
    That's good ... This will enable the Russian Federation to refuse transit through Ukraine and thus prevent regular gas thefts ... The EU, for obvious reasons, does not want to pay for gas meters on the border of the Russian Federation with Ukraine and Russia, there is no need to endure this robbery .. .
  29. Vladimir SHajkin
    Vladimir SHajkin 13 December 2017 17: 50
    0
    The diversification that the Europeans spoke so long and hard about was finally needed.
    Diversification is always better than not diversification, but it is necessary to diversify not only suppliers but also routes and physical principles.
  30. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 13 December 2017 19: 18
    0
    Quote: DanSabaka
    so who, after all, blew up the Austrians ?.

    The one who in April 2009, the Turkmen GDS and the gas pipeline section.
  31. rudolff
    rudolff 13 December 2017 19: 42
    +1
    Maybe Russia should be quietly suggesting that the European Union revive the South Stream project through Bulgaria? To deal with the Turks is the same as with Ukraine, for the time being.
    1. NF68
      NF68 13 December 2017 20: 29
      +3
      Quote: rudolff
      Maybe Russia should be quietly suggesting that the European Union revive the South Stream project through Bulgaria? To deal with the Turks is the same as with Ukraine, for the time being.


      So the Bulgarians, too, are not particularly reliable in this regard. Also like that weather vane.
    2. Town Hall
      Town Hall 13 December 2017 22: 04
      0
      Quote: rudolff
      Maybe Russia should be quietly suggesting that the European Union revive the South Stream project through Bulgaria? To deal with the Turks is the same as with Ukraine, for the time being.



      There will be no South / Turkish flows with Russian gas. This is prohibited by law.


      PS There are no problems with gas in Italy. Do you seriously think that in Italy there are no gas storages with gas reserves in case of such emergency situations. EMPIN reserves for 180 days in underground gas storage facilities. The author has no idea what he writes about
  32. NF68
    NF68 13 December 2017 20: 27
    +2
    It is possible that this is the usual gouging of someone during the repair, or something else like that.
  33. Korsar4
    Korsar4 13 December 2017 20: 30
    0
    At the moment, gas is our lever. It is necessary to use it, while realizing that it cannot go on forever.
  34. Magadan
    Magadan 14 December 2017 00: 51
    +2
    Earlier, during the USSR, they were proud of achievements in space, scientific discoveries, and grandiose construction projects.
    Now we are happy to trade our resources.
    Instead of finally producing the same toilets, power tools, clothes., Baby strollers, etc. etc., our market-liberal team continues to simply feed on resources from our grandfathers mastered.
    And you, unfortunate economic block, what have you done for the country's economy, except to eat gas / oil?
    330 billion energy exports! In second place with a lag of 15 times is agricultural production !!!
    And under the USSR, 20-25% of exports were machine tools and equipment.

    In general: not a fig to sell gas abroad. Let them buy liquefied. In this case, Europe will pay 3-4 times more for energy than a Russian manufacturer. What will give a competitive advantage to the Russian manufacturer.
    And for this you need a little: you take 300 yards from the reserves of the Central Bank and throw them at the construction of factories. Just management brains are needed. What’s the trouble with the current team of lead drivers.

    China with building its industry based public investment in state enterprises coped brilliantly. And now in China, the average salary is already at 30% ahead of the Russian
    1. NKT
      NKT 14 December 2017 07: 26
      0
      Well, yes, it’s so simple to take and pour into the economy one and a half annual budget. It remains just a little - to think about what plants to build, what to equip them with, where to get specialists and what they will produce, as well as what to do with surplus gas (burn?) And those millions of people and hundreds of companies that are “spinning” in the oil industry.
  35. Comrade
    Comrade 14 December 2017 02: 47
    0
    Firstly, the authorities of the German federal state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern approved the construction of the Nord Stream-2 gas pipeline, and secondly, an explosion occurred in the morning on the OMV gas hub in Baumgarten.

    And how did this "world media" not shout that Putin did all this?
  36. Russian bear
    Russian bear 14 December 2017 10: 10
    0
    as they have been doing for the fourth year in Kiev, another victim of "gas insanity."
    it’s the main victim of “gas insanity”, buying from the Poles with the mediation of the Americans all the same Russian gas. if only not for Muscovites.
    DB ... © S. Lavrov.
  37. serge siberian
    serge siberian 14 December 2017 18: 07
    0
    It seems that “Turkish Stream” is an artillery project for “Nord Stream-2.” Well, “Millar” will still save his profits from the Russians. And he will show cookies to the villages, he won’t hold gas. He’s not a patriot and diplomat, said. And anyone could organize an explosion. Wedb and in European countries there was a war and battlefields remained.
  38. German1314
    German1314 15 December 2017 11: 58
    0
    Only Gazprom has optimism and joy. For the "ordinary" Russians, the "national heritage" still does nothing joyful except for advertising on television. Energy prices are rising, pension funds have frozen, salaries are lower than the plinth.
  39. Tolik_74
    Tolik_74 15 December 2017 12: 23
    0
    In view of the unresolved legal problems between Poland and Denmark, there is a small corridor in the Baltic Sea through which a pipe can be laid.
    What is the problem, immediately lay the thread along a long route in neutral waters. And stubborn psheks and Danics to set gas at double rates. Or in general, shut off the valve.
  40. M0xHaTka
    M0xHaTka 15 December 2017 12: 56
    0
    First of all, the explosion on the Austrian hub is beneficial to the Lithuanians. They have a gas hub in the port to the eyeballs flooded idle no one needed. And now they will be able to sell to the fascists. Perhaps even with benefit.
  41. acetophenon
    acetophenon 16 December 2017 18: 44
    0
    Quote: Nikolai Fedorov

    Look at the composition of Gazprom shareholders, and it will become clear to you what they are interested in doing and what is not interesting. None of the shareholders of Gazprom is tormented by the question "Well, what else would be good for Russia to do?" ....

    I will stand at the window at night.
    And stand all night without sleep
    All worried about Rasee,
    How is it, poor, is she?
    fellow
  42. certero
    certero 17 December 2017 10: 58
    0
    Nikolay Fedorov,
    Well, try to connect to the gas. We have been trying to do this for six months already at one facility in the Moscow Region. Even with connections, cronyism and money, the process is still very slow.
  43. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 17 December 2017 12: 46
    0
    Quote: dsk
    The price of gas at the hub in Baumgarten with delivery increased one and a half times - $ 413 per 1000 cubic meters. It is known that gas with delivery is currently traded at $ 537 per 1000 cubic meters, Interfax reports.

    smart manipulation - if there are no delivery vehicles, then you can write that the price has “skyrocketed” to 10 thousand dollars, still no one will buy, because no one will TRANSPORT repeat
  44. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 17 December 2017 12: 54
    0
    Quote: M0xHaTka
    First of all, the explosion on the Austrian hub is beneficial to the Lithuanians. They have a gas hub in the port to the eyeballs flooded idle no one needed. And now they will be able to sell to the fascists. Perhaps even with benefit.

    where did the Nazis come from ?! repeat
    Yes, and how much of that Lithuanian "to the eyeballs" ?! repeat
  45. Al shurshun
    Al shurshun 17 December 2017 13: 13
    +2
    Quote: Magadan
    not a fig to sell gas abroad. Let them buy liquefied. In this case, Europe will pay 3-4 times more for energy.

    well this is - hardly
    firstly, of 110 billion cubic meters of Yamal gas that needs to be “blown” into the Nordic flows, already at the wellhead 50% is owned by the German Wintershall, or if you like it better, BASF repeat
    secondly, liquefied gas from the United States is already in Lithuania at 240 against the pipeline from Russia at 180 repeat
    thirdly, liquefaction is not a tool for creating additional surplus value, but only a method of forming a presence in market segments where the pipes "did not reach" repeat