Russia is suspended, but these Russians can win Olympic gold

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Russia is suspended, but these Russians can win Olympic gold


The ban on Russia's participation in the Olympics does not mean that Russian athletes cannot win medals in a number of sports disciplines in South Korea. Although the IOC decided to remove Russia as a sports country from the competition, he nevertheless allowed Russian athletes to participate in the Olympics.



IOC makes demands

The prerequisite is an invitation to Russian athletes from the IOC. And if they receive this invitation and go to South Korea, they must follow a number of rules.

They have no right to represent Russia and will act under the name of the United Arab Republic (Olympic athletes of Russia). The Russian anthem should not be performed if they win and there should not be a Russian flag at the awards ceremony.

To receive an invitation from the IOC, athletes must fulfill a number of requirements:

• the athlete must pass qualifying competitions to participate in the Olympics in accordance with the existing rules of the Olympic selection;

• the athlete has not previously been punished for doping (that is, if he was previously punished for this, he is not eligible to participate);

• an athlete before the Olympics must be tested in accordance with the instructions of the working group;

• The athlete must also undergo all other additional checks at the request of the working group.

At the end, the IOC determines whether a Russian athlete wishing to participate in competitions meets all these requirements.

Here are some of the Russian athletes who can be invited to the Games in Pyeongchang, where they can win gold:

Cross Country Skiing

Eight Russian skiers have already been suspended from the Olympics, as McLaren reports and IOC doping reports prepared by Denis Oswald, their names are associated with organized doping. The most famous of them are Alexander Legkov, Maxim Vylegzhanin and Evgeny Belov. But the Russians have a group of good young skiers who are not related to the doping scandal.


Sergey Ustyugov (Russia) after finishing the men's skiathlon at the Lahti2017 World Ski Championships in Lahti, Finland

Thus, Sergey Ustyugov, Alexander Bolsunov and Alexey Chervotkin can receive an invitation from the IOC to participate in the Olympic Games. As for the Russian skiers, among them, strictly speaking, there are no applicants for medals.

Biathlon

Russia can put a decent team in the biathlon, although the IOC has removed many Russian biathletes who took part in the Sochi competitions from future Olympiads.

All these skiers have now left a great sport. Those who are currently speaking have nothing to do with the Sochi scandal. The most likely contender for gold is Anton Shipulin. Anton Babikov and Alexander Loginov, too, can one day intervene in this dispute over medals.

Skiing

Here Russia has weak traditions. But Alexander Khoroshilov in recent years, several times took place on the podium among the winners, and one day he may well be among the leaders.

Khoroshilov spoke in Sochi, but his name does not appear in the reports on the use of doping, which are the basis for the removal of Russia from the Olympic Games.

Хоккей

Russian hockey players have previously won Olympic gold under the Olympic flag. This happened shortly before the collapse of the Soviet Union. The Russian team performed under the name of the CIS (Union of Independent States). Russian hockey player Ilya Kovalchuk (playing in the KHL for SKA Petersburg, previously playing for the New Jersey Devils in the NHL) told the Russian press that the Russian hockey team should take part in the Olympics, although it is not allowed to use its own flag.

Now, after the American League did not allow its players to participate in the Olympics, the opportunity for Russian players to win gold in Pyeongchang increased noticeably if they decide to play, and the KHL will allow them to go to the Olympics.

Women's hockey

Many Russian athletes are believed to be involved in the doping chaos in Sochi. But there is a high probability that a sufficiently large number of athletes will be invited, who in South Korea will be able to create a team. They are among the favorites in the fight for gold.

Snowboard


Vic Wilde, who won the gold medal, and Alena Zavarzina, who won the bronze medal

Russian athlete Vic Wild (Vic Wild) won two gold medals in Sochi. He and his wife Alyona Zavarzina, who is also one of the best slalom snowboarders in the world, can apparently be invited to play if they have not previously been involved in doping scandals.

Figure skating

In the women's singles competition, the representative of Russia Evgenia Medvedeva is one of the main contenders for the best result. When the Russian leaders went to Lausanne to negotiate Russia's participation in the Olympics, before the decision was to be made on Thursday, she was on the delegation. She is 18 years old, and she is one of the brightest sports stars that are well known in Russia. These three have very good chances to get an invitation to participate in the Olympics.

Short track


Viktor An (Russia) after the final 1000 meters race in the men's short track event at the XXII Olympic Winter Games in Sochi

Victor An is one of those who can easily win Olympic gold. He is a native of South Korea, but in 2011, he became a citizen of Russia. Victor An won three gold medals in Toronto for South Korea and three gold medals for Russia in Sochi. He is not involved in doping scandals and made it clear in the Russian media that he wants to get an invitation to Pyeongchang. If only such an invitation goes, he will say yes without hesitation.

Bobsled

Many members of the Russian team were involved in the doping scandal in Sochi. It is believed that Russia at this time there is no special chance of winning, if the team in this sport will be exposed.

Skeleton

Alexander Tretyakov won gold in Sochi, but he is currently excluded from participation in Pyeongchang. Elena Nikitina won bronze in Sochi, but she suffered the fate of Tretyakov. Nikita Tregubov took place on the podium of prize-winners at the World Cup, and he should receive an invitation to play next year.

In such sports as skis, free style, sledges and women's curling, Russian athletes can count on medals, but they are not considered favorites for gold.
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  1. +16
    13 December 2017 05: 44
    It's hard to comment on something. Let the athletes decide for themselves. I will not deliberately look, be interested and root for someone at these OIs.
    1. +20
      13 December 2017 05: 48
      The Russian anthem should not be performed if they win and there should not be a Russian flag at the award ceremony.
      just get the money, and bring it back to the "neutral" ...
      1. +8
        13 December 2017 05: 58
        The Olympic Games are discredited by politics. Although the so-called "Olympic athletes from Russia" themselves behaved inappropriately. And they don’t give a damn.
        1. +3
          13 December 2017 06: 32
          It’s nice to remember Victor An, with the flag and the name of my city, on it ... winked deftly fans from Rezh, handed the flag to him. wink
          1. +4
            13 December 2017 07: 18
            Ana, the Wald ... It seems they are for us, but there is sediment
            1. +41
              13 December 2017 09: 04
              BecmepH Today, 07:18 AM ↑ New
              Ana, the Wald ... It seems they are for us, but there is sediment
              I also don’t understand what everyone was happy when Ana, Waldy, and other athletes came across Russia? Now they will just as well run to another country, along with the so-called “our” athletes. These are people-weathercocks, people-prostitutes without a homeland, without a flag, without a hymn, without honor, without conscience and without a king in their head. They do not care about Russia.
              Here, on the Internet, the idea walks that patriotism is for bydla, for "normal people" no matter what rag on the flagpole. Patriotism is for simple hard workers. For those workers and peasants who feed the country with their labor. But for "ilita" it is not needed at all, and even harmful. After all, they themselves, their children, will not defend Russia. What for? Let Vasya Pupkins die, starve, work for 14-16 hours, and the "ilita" will run away either immediately to the side of the enemy, or somewhere to neutral countries.
              So, having removed your head, you should not cry through your hair! For me, everyone who goes to this humiliation has long died. To them is only contempt and complete oblivion. Moreover, I will be glad when they are once again humiliated by selecting medals. They deserved it to the full.
              Know the so-called "athletes from Russia" I BREED YOU! And there are many like me. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of ordinary, REAL citizens of Russia!
              1. +8
                13 December 2017 09: 08
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                To them is only contempt and complete oblivion.

                "+"
                1. +3
                  13 December 2017 15: 17
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  Ana, the Wald ... It seems they are for us, but there is sediment

                  In general, I did not plan to enter into discussions on this topic, but your comments and the next two were forced.
                  And what do you think - your nickname cannot leave a sediment? I do not honor somehow in Russian? laughing
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  I also don’t understand what everyone was happy when Ana, Waldy, and other athletes flooded into Russia?

                  Yes, they were glad that these guys firstly saw more advantages in our country compared to the country where they lived before.
                  Secondly, they brought gold to the Olympic piggy bank of our country.
                  And, unlike you, do not suffer from manifestations of SICK nationalism. I emphasize - PATIENT!
                  And the fact that they decided to go to the Olympic Games is their own business.
                  As for me personally, I do not support them, but I have no right to offend. I think that you, too, do not have this right.
                  1. 0
                    14 December 2017 00: 49
                    Quote: esaul
                    And what do you think - your nickname cannot leave a sediment? I do not honor somehow in Russian?

                    Varangian is quite a Russian name.
                  2. +1
                    14 December 2017 05: 48
                    Quote: esaul
                    leave sediment? I do not honor somehow in Russian?

                    These types bring me to tears))) You yourself didn’t write your nickname in Russian. This is, firstly, and secondly, it’s not your business, as I called myself and what my nickname means. And thirdly, if you don’t have to dig into anything, go to the post to pester.
                    As for me personally, I do not support them, but I have no right to offend. I think that you, too, do not have this right.
                    Where did you see the insult? Here?
                    It seems they are for us, but there are sediments
                    You reminded me of a hysterical woman who would make a scandal out of nothing))) I will not discuss with you.
                2. +1
                  13 December 2017 18: 35
                  Quote: Varyag_0711
                  Know the so-called "athletes from Russia" I BREED YOU! And there are many like me. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of ordinary, REAL citizens of Russia!

                  Quote: BecmepH
                  To them is only contempt and complete oblivion.
                  "+"

                  Athletes, what side to the whole politics, is this the authorities could not ensure normal participation in the Olympics, so why should people honestly prepare for the Olympics for four years to suffer for other people's shoals?
              2. +1
                13 December 2017 11: 38
                plus! and support
              3. +4
                13 December 2017 12: 16
                So much pathos and righteous anger ... Do you know that athletes begin to train from 5-6 years old? While their peers in tanks are playing on the Internet, they work hard. About 10 years, just to START to compete at the highest level in adult sports. And this is with luck. And then they have 6-7 years to achieve the highest results. And in these 6-7 years, at the peak of form, you need to go through a number of international competitions and get to the Olympics. Further, by the age of 27, a sports career usually ends.
                People give 15-17 years, the best years (!) Of their lives to sports, and here you are sitting at the TV and computer, deign to despise them publicly. Somehow low ...
                1. +27
                  13 December 2017 12: 29
                  Klaus Today, 12:16 ↑
                  So much pathos and righteous anger ... Do you know that athletes begin to train from 5-6 years old?
                  I know if that. Since childhood, he has been involved in several sports sections. He was engaged in kayaking, boxing and volleyball. As a result, a candidate for master of sports in volleyball. So I don’t need to talk about difficulties here.
                  People give 15-17 years, the best years (!) Of their lives to sports, and here you are sitting at the TV and computer, deign to despise them publicly. Somehow low ...
                  People in Syria give their lives for the honor of the country, and do not cry about the "best years", which they will not have any more. So put your rotten ideology back to where you got it.
                  So much pathos and righteous anger ...
                  But this is no longer your business. I am writing what I feel and it is not for you to indicate to me how and what to write!
                  1. +1
                    16 December 2017 18: 37
                    Syria and where does it? And what honor do the Wagner mercenaries defend there, the honor of the soldier’s ringtone?
                2. +5
                  13 December 2017 12: 58
                  To give the best years of life to sledding, jumping (not even on the Maidan) lifting a piece of iron - wretchedly, a waste of vitality and public funds. But you can write books, build houses, planes .....
                  In the Ukrainian language there is a juicy word: NICE.
                3. +12
                  13 December 2017 13: 01
                  But what about us? 25 years in remote garrisons, not always normal, without weekends and holidays. Brought up for the country to give life. Naturally, I do not support these athletes. Ours of course these guys, but a bad sediment remained.
                4. BAI
                  +13
                  13 December 2017 13: 19
                  People give 15-17 years, the best years (!) Of their lives to sports, and here you are sitting at the TV and computer, deign to despise them publicly. Somehow low ...

                  Everyone's position in life is different. Everyone makes their choice. And we have the right to decide whether this choice of respect is worthy or not (respect us). For the third time I repeat:
                5. +4
                  13 December 2017 13: 42
                  Do you know
                  here is another sufferer

                  How many of these prostitutes, each of which must be reckoned with, she lay, spread her legs ...
                6. +2
                  13 December 2017 15: 26
                  Quote: Klaus
                  Somehow low ...

                  And here I plus! good
                7. +2
                  14 December 2017 00: 58
                  Quote: Klaus
                  People give 15-17 years, the best years (!) Of their lives to sports, and here you are sitting at the TV and computer, deign to despise them publicly.

                  Can these "sportsmen" change their profession? Is there a welder or a turner? Or a tractor driver !!!
                8. +2
                  14 December 2017 23: 51
                  Yes, they give the best years to sports of the highest achievements, but by the age of 45 they become disabled. I say this with confidence, because the champions were also treated at our hospital. Almost joints, a worn heart ...
                  But here, for example, from the age of 10, I did “exercises” in the morning, but I never smoked or drank alcohol. As a result, at 55, I pull myself up 2 times and calmly run 1 km in 3 minutes 40 seconds. So which of us did smarter? This is my No. 1 argument in favor of Russia's refusal to participate in the Olympics.
                  Argument No. 3 is traditional for this site and lies in my confidence that all the enormous money that goes to the IOC and to maintain the apparatus of sports officials could have been spent much more effectively with Russia itself. This is especially true for football. We never succeeded with it, but it was always a good recreational sport. But precisely in this regard, nothing is being done. And as an example, I want to bring our Novocherkassk, where there are two municipal stadiums and one that is located on the territory of the Technical University. But for some reason, all of them were paid, and the competitions of the yard teams were always held at the stadium, a stadium in one of the military units of the Russian Guard (former MVD).
                  And my argument number 3 is that the desire to get into the ranks of the Olympians is pride, and this is a terrible sin according to the Holy Scriptures.
              4. 0
                13 December 2017 16: 45
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                Know the so-called "athletes from Russia" I BREED YOU! And there are many like me. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions of ordinary, REAL citizens of Russia!

                That is, Putin is not a REAL citizen? Often, he gives direct citizenship to direct decrees ... And the Kakorins' lovers are Real .. For me, whoever has jelly instead of a brain is not real ... not at all human. Zombie. This is me about the world, not about anyone specifically.
            2. +3
              13 December 2017 10: 18
              Quote: BecmepH
              Ana, the Wald ... It seems they are for us, but there is sediment

              Honest mercenaries. They took money, took medals, what’s wrong?
            3. 0
              17 December 2017 01: 44
              You just quote Suvorov-cosmonauts and buggers. It seems to be nothing of the sort, but sediment that is ...
              PS - here they prefer to call Suvorov a cutter.
      2. +9
        13 December 2017 09: 18
        just get the money, and bring it back to the "neutral" ...
        By the way, I don’t know who invented 404 country about Ukraine, but now we have overtaken them. A country without a hymn, without a flag
        1. +1
          13 December 2017 13: 03
          Sympathize with you.
          But we did not drive, we have everything in place. And the eagle with the president with all its heads. Broad country!
          1. +1
            13 December 2017 13: 19
            with the president with all his heads.
            How many goals does your president have?
      3. +3
        14 December 2017 01: 55
        Lived, damn it!
    2. +17
      13 December 2017 06: 48
      Quote: ImPerts
      I will not deliberately look, be interested and root for someone at these OIs.

      I am joining. There is no desire to look at the humiliated.
      1. +31
        13 December 2017 07: 14
        And I am with you. Yes It’s disgusting to look at these white-pants “zarobchan” under a neutral rag! negative Admiral Kolchak, occupying another city, said: - "Do not touch artists, prostitutes and coachmen. They serve any government!" ... Now also the athletes .... fool
        1. +9
          13 December 2017 08: 02
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          And I am with you. Yes It’s disgusting to look at these white-pants “zarobchan” under a neutral rag! negative Admiral Kolchak, occupying another city, said: - "Do not touch artists, prostitutes and coachmen. They serve any government!" ... Now also the athletes .... fool

          100% in the hole! good
          1. 0
            13 December 2017 18: 56
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            100% in the hole!

            Janitors would sweep the Germans, pharmacists would sell medicines to the Germans, accountants would calculate the salaries of the Germans, etc. ...... the badger does not sleep.
      2. +1
        13 December 2017 18: 51
        Quote: BecmepH
        There is no desire to look at the humiliated.

        It seems that the athletes are not humiliated, but the state (according to Lenin: the apparatus of violence of one class over another) that fed athletes with doping.
        1. 0
          13 December 2017 19: 43
          It seems that not the athletes are humiliated but the state


          And the athletes quickly switched to another line under the next flag and his color was white. Well, at least they don’t shout in chorus - KAPUT.
        2. 0
          14 December 2017 06: 21
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          Quote: BecmepH
          There is no desire to look at the humiliated.

          It seems that the athletes are not humiliated, but the state (according to Lenin: the apparatus of violence of one class over another) that fed athletes with doping.

          Try to stick in a 3-year-old child, something if he turns out to eat ... They (athletes) are adults and if they "stuff", then they need it.
    3. +3
      13 December 2017 12: 15
      Stupid ... Their betrayal does not guarantee them anything. On the contrary, no one will intercede for them now. They can find anything. For any reason, bend down and no help. The people will say so and should. Imagine what such a plan was.
      1. 0
        13 December 2017 18: 58
        Quote: True
        . Their betrayal does not guarantee them anything. On the contrary, no one will intercede for them now. They can find anything.

        It turned out that with the state, that without it, one result, no one could protect.
    4. +2
      13 December 2017 22: 50
      The list is good, but where is the guarantee that the IOC will allow these athletes to the Olympics. It is not for nothing that they were invented: `` the athlete must also pass all other additional checks at the request of the working group. '' That is, any athlete with the wording `` he did not pass an additional test '' without explaining anything can not be allowed in. It is better not to mess with cheaters.
    5. 0
      14 December 2017 02: 58
      The test for "lice" is not passed and burn "fire" these athletes with the oh Olympics, I will laugh for a long time if the Americans do not come!
  2. +13
    13 December 2017 05: 47
    Requirements border on insanity. I don’t know ... If all these competitions are rotten through, then it’s necessary to “tie up” with them, and not to bend under a changing world. So you will never be respected.
    1. +10
      13 December 2017 06: 00
      And in the world of money is not respect the main thing .. And their (money) amount .. And what kind of patriotism can be discussed in our country, which goes with the flow without a rudder and sails?
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      Requirements border on insanity. I don’t know ... If all these competitions are rotten through, then it’s necessary to “tie up” with them, and not to bend under a changing world. So you will never be respected.
      1. 0
        13 December 2017 13: 09
        You yourself must respect the state, and not identify it with bureaucrats and "athletes" from show business.
        1. +2
          13 December 2017 18: 59
          Quote: Victor N
          You yourself must respect the state

          No, this state must earn the respect of its people.
    2. +6
      13 December 2017 06: 50
      Quote: Petrol cutter
      Requirements border on insanity.

      I see directly how our skaters will be sued. Remember the story with Nemov? Only then did the whole audience applaud while standing, and now everyone will giggle
  3. +14
    13 December 2017 06: 23
    I do not intend to watch these games humiliating for the country.
  4. +2
    13 December 2017 06: 29
    It’s not worth rolling your lip to medals ahead of time without the IOC’s decision on the individual admission of our athletes (how much will really go and who?). In the best of times, too, before the games began, our officials made statements about medals bordering on social obligations, but this was not always justified. And even more so today. You need to be more modest.
    1. +13
      13 December 2017 06: 39
      And the most “funny” thing is that they will then be accused of doping and the medals will be taken away! And hello to the Olympics!
      1. +6
        13 December 2017 10: 22
        subject picture
  5. +21
    13 December 2017 07: 14
    Our poor people built Olympic facilities at the expense of the budget, and welcomed considerable prize money from the state. And that they received in return ...? ... Cynical indifference to ordinary people.
    Sincere respect to those who do not fly to the Olympics.
    1. +4
      13 December 2017 08: 28
      Quote: samarin1969
      Our poor people built Olympic facilities at the expense of the budget, and welcomed considerable prize money from the state. And that they received in return ...? ... Cynical indifference to ordinary people.
      Sincere respect to those who do not fly to the Olympics.

      drinks
    2. +19
      13 December 2017 08: 41
      Quote: samarin1969
      Sincere respect to those who do not fly to the Olympics.

      And complete contempt for those who still go. For me personally, this Olympiad no longer exists. Sane people look and be interested in this heinous coven not to face. Justice, pride, honor and dignity are the creed of the Russian people, in contrast to the Russian authorities, to whom these concepts are not known. It is clear that in order to get into power, one must be a corrupt bastard and a cynical scoundrel, there is such a special selection, but certain red lines cannot be crossed. The tacit consensus between the people and the authorities has already been violated, due to the lying collaborative line of our stinking "ortka".
      1. +5
        13 December 2017 08: 56
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        And complete contempt for those who still go. For me personally, this Olympiad no longer exists.

        sadly, but the sport died, for me. the desire to watch has disappeared, (women's beach volleyball does not count !!!)))) deleted channels, fishing and grandchildren are better ... thanks WADA ...
        1. +1
          13 December 2017 12: 31
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          Thank you WADA

          In general, I have never watched olympiads, except for football and hockey, and football has also stopped, there is still hockey there, men are still playing. In general, I think that doping should be allowed any and in any quantity and not be fooled by people with all sorts of WADA, and the health of athletes is their own business.
        2. +3
          13 December 2017 14: 50

          we don’t need such a sport!
          1. +1
            13 December 2017 20: 33
            Quote: Popovich
            we don’t need such a sport!


            Hmm ... Recall tennis players - Williams sisters ... Or even - here


            Gymnasts ... Our Alia Mustafina and American Simone Biles .... There is no need for WADA expertise to determine the "patient" sitting on the pills ...
            1. +2
              13 December 2017 22: 18
              still interesting, sho IT covers it with its rake?
    3. +1
      13 December 2017 11: 36
      They sincerely believe that
      Quote: samarin1969
      Our poor people

      has nothing to do with it. As in the vulgar poems near Mayakovsky:
      A factory owner in Lincoln rush
      And you, proletarian, go to the elevator to urinate
  6. +18
    13 December 2017 07: 23
    Dear Grandfather Chen Eun. Please make sure that no one has to go anywhere and no one else swears or quarrels. And also convey big, fiery greetings to our ("friends" crossed out) partners in America. We all love them very much. Let them have everything ...... (inaudible further)
    1. 0
      13 December 2017 08: 29
      Quote: Ifan
      Dear Grandfather Chen Eun.

      well ... "grandfather" will be much younger than me ... wink
  7. 0
    13 December 2017 07: 39
    Russian hockey players have previously won Olympic gold under the Olympic flag. It is happened shortly before the collapse of the Soviet Union.
    Keywords.
  8. +2
    13 December 2017 07: 58
    The path to the Olympic medals will be like the path to Calvary ...
    1. +3
      13 December 2017 08: 30
      Quote: parusnik
      The path to the Olympic medals will be like the path to Calvary ...

      do not exaggerate, there are "denyuzhki" ...
      1. +3
        13 December 2017 08: 49
        Is that denyuzhki ... but I am sure ... they are being hungry over our athletes, who will go ...
        - Where did you go? - Prison! - Wait! “Why are you holding him?” Let it go. He had a year, three for an escape, five for a kindergarten. Go, go, Vasya.
        1. +4
          13 December 2017 09: 00
          Quote: parusnik
          Is that denyuzhki ... but I am sure ... they are being hungry over our athletes, who will go ...

          sorry Alex, but, called herself a slut, go spread your legs ...! request they don’t drag the Cross; they lie down.
          1. +7
            13 December 2017 09: 42
            As in a joke, ukransky .. what kind of state, such and terrorist attacks ... So we have .. what kind of state such and athletes ...
            1. +3
              13 December 2017 10: 14
              the truth is so nasty that even a "plus" to put you-the hand does not rise. I don’t remember that you would be "urya" and "vysoveret" ... long ago with you here ... let's remember the Constitution of the USSR ... silently ...
    2. +1
      13 December 2017 08: 45
      What is Calvary? To whom? to these venal (so-called athletes) prostitutes? Calvary is something sacred.
  9. +2
    13 December 2017 08: 42
    Although it’s possible to bet that the national team of the United Arab Republic (the United Arab Republic, or something), by any means crammed into one of the last places, after which they will long and delightedly yell that without doping our team can’t do anything. And they will try to overcome the won medals.
  10. +7
    13 December 2017 08: 45
    What is sport? Almost every "Master of Sports" is a disabled person. Sport is based on the ambition of coaches, the naivete of athletes and the venality of sports officials. Instead of carrying the organization of PHYSICAL CULTURE to the masses, taking care of the health of the nation, the state relies on a small minority and revels in pride, receiving medals on the world sports arena. Honest wrestling is impossible in principle. Coaches and officials "squeeze out" the ranks and orders for themselves, squeezed out athletes are sent into the shade to drink or trade in buffets, because they have neither health nor education leaving for "resignation." Where did I get this opinion? From youth. Once, at regional competitions in classical wrestling, I heard a behind-the-scenes meeting of coaches and judges about which of the participants needed how many victories to receive one or another category. And what do we see with refereeing at the Olympics in the last decade? So then ......
  11. +1
    13 December 2017 08: 46
    In response, their own Olympiad in the framework of the Russian Championship is simply announced.

    In general, it is high time to introduce the condition that six months after the competition no claims can be made.
    1. 0
      13 December 2017 11: 03
      I agree. And there is where to spend. In vain did they build in Sochi?
      1. 0
        13 December 2017 11: 04
        Quote: kinolog2322
        Agree

        but sho, did they ask for permission?
  12. +3
    13 December 2017 08: 48
    If shame to embellish with gold will not shine, this is a mirage.
    1. +3
      13 December 2017 11: 12
      Quote: monk
      If shame to embellish with gold will not shine, this is a mirage.

      will not be visible, apparently (sorry for the tautology, I don’t take accuracy, :), your thought is in the lips of F.G. Ranevskaya sounds more elegant: "Even under the most pathos tail of the peacock, there is always an ordinary chicken ass. So there is less pathos, gentlemen." hi
  13. +5
    13 December 2017 08: 48
    At the end of The IOC defineswhether the Russian athlete who wants to participate in the competition corresponds to all these requirements.
    athlete must also go through everything other additional checks at the request of the working group.

    Anyone who could potentially take a prize will simply not be allowed. Everyone, athletes who went to these "Olympic" games, will act as bedding for wiping their feet against Russia. They are worse than traitors.
    At the end of the Olympiad, our enemies will have a weighty argument on accusing us of doping - look, they removed all the dirty athletes from Russia and she could not win a single prize.
    This is a setup that sports officials do not want to notice and some athletes do not understand ...
    1. +8
      13 December 2017 09: 08
      Quote: Boris55
      Everyone, athletes who went to these "Olympic" games, will act as bedding for wiping their feet against Russia. They are worse than traitors.

      that you, they are not traitors ... they are citizens of the world! they are indifferent ... "Do not be afraid of enemies - in the worst case, they can kill you.
      Do not be afraid of friends - in the worst case, they can betray you.
      Be afraid of those who are indifferent - they do not kill and do not betray, but only with their tacit consent does treason and murder exist on earth. "(C) Julius Fucik. And another statement:" A hero is a person who does what it is necessary to do in the interests of human society. "- the question is .. in whose interests do they betray the Anthem and the Flag?
      1. +6
        13 December 2017 09: 13
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        that you, they are not traitors ... they are citizens of the world!

        Their slogan: "They took the flag, they took the anthem, but honor, we ourselves will surrender to them."
        1. +9
          13 December 2017 11: 16
          Quote: Boris55
          Their slogan: "They took the flag, took the anthem, but honor, we ourselves will hand them over

          yes ... on the Gardemarinov’s motto “life for the motherland, honor-to nobody” ... doesn’t pull .... I survived ... “Red Machine” - that’s the sport in my memory ... crying
          1. +2
            13 December 2017 11: 29
            Whoever drew a picture for this slogan: IOC is standing in Scottish skirts raised in front, our athletes are back to back in a pose for them, holding a poster with the inscription Russia and Zhukov, with a blissful smile on a half-bent stretching jar of petroleum jelly. And it would be nice to hang this poster in front of the athletes leaving for the "Olympics" ...
      2. +1
        13 December 2017 13: 48
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        that you, they are not traitors ... they are citizens of the world! they are indifferent ... "Do not be afraid of enemies - in the worst case, they can kill you.

        Greetings! Here everything is clear and clear, as if all the comments were generalized.
        1. 0
          13 December 2017 14: 05
          Quote: Stroporez
          Greetings! Here everything is clear and clear, as if all the comments were generalized.

          hi For more than two minutes of watching the video, I was not enough.
          Rave! A feeble attempt to accuse Putin of having withdrawn from the solution of the question of which Russian citizens should be allowed to go abroad and who would not. Once again - Nonsense!
          Keeping Russia out of the Olympics is not Putin’s decision, this is the IOC’s decision. And yet - it’s not possible to boycott something where we were not invited.
          1. +5
            13 December 2017 14: 38
            Quote: Boris55
            For more than two minutes of watching the video, I was not enough.

            Well, as always, I didn’t look, but I condemn lol
            Quote: Boris55
            A feeble attempt to accuse Putin of having stepped aside from resolving the issue of which Russian citizens should be allowed to go abroad and who would not

            So he supported the trip under the "white" flag.
            Quote: Boris55
            And yet - it’s not possible to boycott something where we were not invited.

            In this case, the invitation is not necessary, but we were simply kicked out. You understand what’s going on, the IOC lifelongly deprived him of travel to competitions under the auspices of the IOC, and in our country he “led” and will “lead”.
            1. +1
              13 December 2017 15: 03
              Quote: Stroporez
              So he supported the trip under the "white" flag.

              Everyone hears what he wants to hear.
              Not to prohibit citizens from traveling abroad and to encourage white-flag baud to participate is not the same thing.
              1. +5
                13 December 2017 15: 29
                Quote: Boris55
                Not to prohibit citizens from traveling abroad and to encourage white-flag baud to participate is not the same thing.

                I agree. Only we are not talking about terminology. Let's say "blessed"
                And now the chronology:
                .President of Russia Vladimir Putin at a meeting of the Valdai International Discussion Club said that the possible removal of the national team or the performance of Russian athletes under the neutral flag at the 2018 Olympic Games in South Pyeongchang will be a humiliation for the country.
                “We have no complaints against the International Olympic Committee. There are very decent people there, but they depend on advertisers, on television channels, and on sponsors. And these sponsors, in turn, are given unambiguous signals from certain American authorities. We do not just guess it, we know it. Two options: either force Russia to appear under a neutral flag, or not at all be allowed to enter the Olympic Games, ”Putin quoted Interfax as saying.

                The President of Russia believes that both options are unacceptable and will become "humiliation of the country."
                But fresh
                Russian President Vladimir Putin supported members of the Russian Olympic Committee who voted at the Olympic meeting for the performance of Russian athletes at the 2018 Games in South Korean Pyeongchang flying the Olympic flag. This was announced by the press secretary of the head of state Dmitry Peskov. According to him, "we can only talk about his (decision. - eg.ru) support from the president."
                Threat. Each of us has a strictly personal attitude to this situation. hi
  14. +16
    13 December 2017 08: 48
    Everyone is trying to feed us with this rotten fish. That all is well. Must go. They will fight for the citizens there ...... (probably neutral or oval) I repeat once again. Businessmen, supermodels and careerists will go there. But these people are never our athletes. And they represent there exclusively their interests. For this, the hand they are so eager to lick and kiss will hit in the face. And no one will save them, because they go there as neutrals. There are no more among those who represent Russia on the world stage of the Vereshchagins! Nowadays it is a shame for a simple nation only to a common people ...

    1. +4
      13 December 2017 09: 15
      My friends, and after all, something bad is being planned in the country then. And this tear is not sowed by chance, here you need to carefully watch, as if with "soapy water, the child can not be splashed out." I am in the sense that everything cleverly coincided, elections-olympiad-chm. we are evil .. yes. but a vague feeling that someone is manipulating us .. like flies, to separate from cutlets ...
      1. +2
        13 December 2017 09: 46
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        THINKING that someone is manipulating us .. how would flies be separated from cutlets ...

        Maybe you will find the answer here ..
        1. +1
          13 December 2017 10: 06
          Quote: Boris55
          Maybe you will find the answer here ..

          nothing contradicts my suspicions ... ATP for the link. hilooked at YouTube at a higher speed (a la Mikheev) ...
        2. +3
          13 December 2017 13: 54
          Quote: Boris55
          Maybe you will find the answer here ..


          Mdaaa ... Cool compared yesterday's meeting of athletes with the Munich agreement of 1938 and Churchill-Chamberlain's words: "You had a choice between war and dishonor ... You chose dishonor, and now get war" ...

          In the same way, the essence of the IOC’s claims is that Russia itself, as a state institution, chooses dishonor, so that then Russia gets a war ...
          As soon as Russia agrees to the ultimatum of the IOC, it will immediately receive dishonor and war ...
          It is correctly said: we were not invited to US ... WE are not needed there ... And those who go by personal desire (+ IOC invitation) are simply not needed there ... .. But those athletes who yesterday decided to go do not want to understand this ... request
  15. +4
    13 December 2017 10: 06
    It’s good to write articles about those who don’t have a MOTHERLAND and a FLAG.
  16. +6
    13 December 2017 10: 16
    Who will let them win? in the area of ​​the prize place they will automatically find doping. They will borrow 10-100- Russia will not be able to say without doping. so shame on anyone! Don Quixote also fought with the mills.
    We expect the return of athletes to the right countries
    1. +2
      13 December 2017 11: 18
      Quote: Rey_ka
      They will borrow 10-100- Russia will not be able to say without doping.

      very believable, damn it ...
    2. +2
      13 December 2017 13: 29
      They will borrow 10-100- Russia will not be able to say without doping. so shame on anyone! Don Quixote also fought with the mills.
      Actually, before Sochi, there was a winter Olympics in Vancouver in 2010, then they were not even in the top ten. And suddenly such a success in Sochi. You really believe in miracles.
      I agree that the country should be proud in any case. But to bring to the point of absurdity is not necessary.
  17. +5
    13 December 2017 10: 35
    In any case, this is not the Russian team, but it is not clear who. Sold for 30 pieces of silver. I do not support, do not respect, I will not be sick.
    But the funniest thing will be next - these “gateways” will still not be allowed to win. And if this succeeds, then the medals will be taken away.
    1. 0
      13 December 2017 11: 25
      Quote: AleBors
      In any case, this is not the Russian team, but it is not clear who. Sold for 30 pieces of silver. I do not support, do not respect, I will not be sick.

      Sport will lose a lot! I think Olympic athletes should, in turn, stand up to you and beg on their knees to cheer for them !!!! Maybe then you forgive them ??? Or still not ???
      1. +3
        13 December 2017 12: 42
        Of course not. Your sarcasm is incomprehensible.
      2. +1
        13 December 2017 13: 59
        Quote: Petr1968
        Sport will lose a lot! I think Olympic athletes should, in turn, stand up to you and beg on their knees to cheer for them !!!!


        Ahem ... No need to jerk ... Everything is so problematic here ... With the mind, you understand one thing, with heart and soul - another ...
        Here ... If I had an Olympic neighbor ... And he would go THERE .... I would understand him with my mind ... And - I would also continue to greet him ... Regardless, I won is he at the OI or not ... However ... Relations would now only be on the level - he nodded so that they would not consider me a completely rude club, and - that's it ...
        I don’t know how to explain it ...
        But that's what my wife, a lover of winter sports, has said, and she said that THESE OI will not watch on TV ...
  18. +1
    13 December 2017 11: 24
    Putin said "let's go," and all the couch couchs changed the wording, hahaha)))
  19. +10
    13 December 2017 11: 44
    They do not have the right to represent Russia and will act under the name OAR (Olympic athletes of Russia). The Russian anthem should not be performed if they win and there should not be a Russian flag at the award ceremony.
    --------------------------------
    And why not just a ROA?
  20. +3
    13 December 2017 11: 57
    Once such a story has gone that athletes travel en masse in private for the sake of their achievements - let it be. They have every right, since they devoted their entire conscious life to preparing for this event.
    BUT. In order to exclude such behavior in the future, it is necessary to take tough but fair measures:
    - Broad state support should be only mass physical education and children and youth sports. This is the health and strength of the nation. All.
    - a sport of high achievements (and high incomes), and everything connected with it should be exclusively within the framework of private initiative and private financing. Then then no questions will arise in principle. This is how the system works in many countries, in the USA
  21. +4
    13 December 2017 12: 21
    In fact, the Olympics should be held away from both Koreas. As for the Russian Federation, I see no reason to remain part of the IOC and pay membership fees. Only money (more precisely, their absence) can solve such problems. When the Russian Federation, the "rogue country", is a disempowered member of many "international" organizations, this means that the Russian Federation has been turned into a colony.
  22. +2
    13 December 2017 13: 02
    Very cleverly, the arrows were moved to the athletes. Almost no one remembers the sports officials who framed these athletes, and, apparently, they will not punish anyone.
    1. +1
      13 December 2017 13: 30
      Very cleverly, the arrows were moved to the athletes. Almost no one remembers the sports officials who framed these athletes, and, apparently, they will not punish anyone.
      good
  23. +1
    13 December 2017 13: 26
    Russia is suspended, but these Russians can win Olympic gold

    they forgot to add: they can win purely for themselves, and not for the country and in the hope of a prize from the authorities.
  24. +4
    13 December 2017 13: 42
    I am for the fact that athletes did not go to this Olympics (without a bycot) and the rights to broadcast were not bought, did not recognize McLaren's report and did not pay 15 million to him for this report. This is my civic position!

    But ...
    It seems from what I read that now the majority will finish in an emotional peak that our athletes are fascists and we need to shoot them;))
    And what were they different a year ago?
    Athletes do what they are told.
    Athletes have no choice but to agree to go or put a bullet in their participation in the sport of Russia.
    Because the sports state SYSTEM of Russia made the decision to go, having worked out the decision of the president.
    And it's all!
    How can you “throw” athletes out of the system, do they make decisions on their own somewhere?
    A person who thinks that an athlete is free to go to a particular competition or to choose something is generally not even superficially familiar with the state sports system of the Russian Federation!
    Understand, please, throwing a stone and blaming athletes - you blame the same state sports system! You blame the President of the Russian Federation V.V. Putin for all that you blame the athletes!
    The system has a clear vertical, political and nomenclature vertical, and the athletes at the very bottom of this vertical are “soldiers”!
    They are part of the system, as they were told, so they did!

    Are you any? Sorry, strange, enchanted or something.
    Here is VV Putin good- But Medvedev, then no. (probably Medvedev and the government appointed itself;)))))) I can’t rzhu;))))) A good king has bad boyars;)
    This is probably a cunning plan, V.V. Putin - so cleverly to do everything .. see how the athletes vote, that would certainly get rid of the sports enemies of Russia forever!
    Do you REALLY think so ?????

    How can you put out the brackets in the equation, isolate the fundamental links from the process and think that it all worked out by itself and blame it on the link (of the athletes) who solve nothing!
    May I ask you a little question where did you study at all?
    Do you have 2x2 = 5?
    These are not bad athletes! This sports state system is bad!
    Bad ones who created this system and manage it!

    Athletes can in this case only accept the rules of the game and go!
    Or refuse, thereby pointing the SYSTEM at its nullity and go against the system.
    Vladimir Putin spoke on this issue, members of the government, for those who are especially “deaf” and who see a hidden meaning in something, chewed on the essence - we must go! All voiced by all federal channels!
    The system has decided to perform under the white flag!

    The athlete has the right to individually refuse.
    Express your civic position.
    And here our (athlete, yours and mine) positions coincide, because
    I am for the fact that athletes did not go to this Olympics (without a bycot) and the rights to broadcast were not bought, did not recognize McLaren's report and did not pay 15 million to him for this report. This is my civic position!
    But my civic position, like yours and that of an athlete who refused to go, does not correspond to the position of Russian President Vladimir Putin and the Russian government on this issue.
    This is the problem !!!
    Here the posts are laid out "Selling athletes ..! We are disappointed in you ... we hate, we will not forgive!"
    But what about the position of the president and government of the Russian Federation !!!
    Oops! ;)
    What is weak to face the truth?
    Do you want athletes !!
    1. +1
      13 December 2017 14: 45
      Quote: Romin
      And then what about the position of the president

      Check for lice.
  25. +2
    13 December 2017 14: 03
    Walk on Olympus proudly, seek solar reward
    For the sake of the beauty of sport, for your sake!
    We must win honestly, we must live in the world brightly!
    They will add songs about us too - it will be hot for heaven!
    From a song We firmly believe in sports heroes. Performed by M. Magomaev
  26. 0
    13 December 2017 14: 18
    Interestingly, and the paralympics for the Russian Federation also in the same scenario?
  27. +2
    13 December 2017 14: 22
    Does anyone know the names of those athletes who refused to go, although they received an invitation? Are there any such people?
  28. +4
    13 December 2017 14: 22
    Quote: shubin
    Very cleverly, the arrows were moved to the athletes. Almost no one remembers the sports officials who framed these athletes, and, apparently, they will not punish anyone.

    ----------------------------------
    We also remember the officials. But the officials threw responsibility on the athletes. And athletes have no civilian position at all. Then why all the howls that "we represent Russia, the flag of Russia is rinsing in our hearts, everyone already knows where we come from"? Let them come to compete from the Neutral Federation and represent their own sports officials. Together they perfectly complement each other and are completely worthy of each other. Without a flag, honor and homeland. Then the Serebrennikovs and Dumetsky will write the banter's opera Rodchenkov, and our porno-elite elite will clap their hands and shout “encore, bravo”.
  29. +3
    13 December 2017 14: 33
    Russia has been removed, but these people can and will continue to disgrace at the Olympics and disgrace the Russians. Such a name for the article or rather. They have no dignity, no sports solidarity with those whom they illegally removed, not to mention their homeland (flag, anthem). Their selfish achievements are insignificant, and they’re not worth a dime, they will be forgotten by everyone in a year ... But the fact that the Jews appeared under the flag of NOBODY will be remembered forever.
  30. 0
    13 December 2017 14: 38
    All this hype is reminiscent of the fairly now forgotten case of Dreyfus, when the betrayal was on the part of the generals, and the ordinary officer of the French General Staff was blamed for everything. And the hype and resonance were then inflated only in order to hush up the true state of things.
  31. +5
    13 December 2017 14: 38
    Quote: Romin
    What is weak to face the truth?
    Do you want athletes !!

    ---------------------------
    Who cherished the athletes? No one wants athletes, it simply surprises the lack of a civic position. But since the system wants to bend as far as possible under the West, as you reason, the system needs to drive all the remaining "doping-free" athletes to the Olympics in the name of "purity of sport." There, of course, the athletes will be humiliated even more than we are "kicking" here, but it was they who made such a choice. I personally don’t want athletes, I write everywhere that, firstly, it’s humiliating to go without a flag. Secondly, if there are contentious issues, then our disqualified OCD will not help to appeal the arbitration. Thirdly, there will be no residence in the Olympic village. Fourth, doctors and masseurs should be private. Fourth, as soon as you please the audience, your medals will then be taken away, they will find a lot of “violations”, the same state support, for example, for a trip to the games. Therefore, your fate is to go there with amusing buffoons, emphasizing the successes of other teams that "competed on equal footing with terrible Russians." That's all.
  32. 0
    13 December 2017 14: 42
    the Olympic flame has faded ...
  33. 0
    13 December 2017 15: 00
    Ah, I guessed - this is a list of Duchesses 2. Those. Rodchenkov will describe these athletes in the second part of his diary. But! To do this, they must win medals. But not before - before what good?
  34. +3
    13 December 2017 17: 02
    "There were worse times,
    But there was no mean ". © N. Nekrasov" Contemporary "
    And these are still flowers. Berries will be in February-March.
  35. +2
    13 December 2017 17: 18
    They won’t win anything ... honest refereeing will not be there from the word at all ... It was not necessary to go there
  36. +4
    13 December 2017 21: 01
    I read it, I could not stand to blurt out the utterances, the athletes have one life! They are supposed to be nuclear and have seven welders, they are supposed to be grown and grown in greenhouses somewhere, and then propagated ...
    And pay-unbearably much. As one hosh character said, will I share ?!
  37. +1
    13 December 2017 23: 37
    Quote: Klaus
    So much pathos and righteous anger ... Do you know that athletes begin to train from 5-6 years old? While their peers in tanks are playing on the Internet, they work hard. About 10 years, just to START to compete at the highest level in adult sports. And this is with luck. And then they have 6-7 years to achieve the highest results. And in these 6-7 years, at the peak of form, you need to go through a number of international competitions and get to the Olympics. Further, by the age of 27, a sports career usually ends.
    People give 15-17 years, the best years (!) Of their lives to sports, and here you are sitting at the TV and computer, deign to despise them publicly. Somehow low ...


    You are this ... enemy and not smart ...)))
  38. +3
    13 December 2017 23: 46
    I will say only for myself. Four years ago, when so many roared to the glory of Russia, which won in Sochi, I personally was ashamed. I am ashamed that the medal classification was taken out at the expense of the Korean and Amik with Russian passports. I was born and raised in the USSR and for me it was a shame. I was not very surprised by the words of Kovalchuk, but what Pavlik Datsyuk said is the finish. In November, on CzechTV watched the Russia-Czech Republic match at Karjala Kap. There was a guest in the studio - Marek Sikora, discussing our actions in the event of a ban on the part of the IOC. Pan Sikora said that he CANNOT REPRESENT OUR HOCKEYS WITHOUT NATIONAL ATTRIBUTES! He can’t, but Putin and Kovalchuk - easily.
  39. +3
    16 December 2017 17: 12
    Such posts are now on the Internet ... And you can’t argue.

    Lev Myshkin
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    I found out that I have a neutral country,
    And the path and meadow, in the white field is my flag,
    A river, a blue sky - it's all to me - not native,
    This is the homeland of a draw - I love only myself.
  40. 0
    17 December 2017 19: 16
    Among the three reasons to appear under the IOC flag: one if the athlete does not agree with the existing regime in his country, and two more somehow fell out of memory, but they are not so loud. At the Olympic Games, athletes from Russia will be persuaded precisely as those who disagree with the Putin regime.
    I’m not a fan of the development of the country, in the 70s they passed. But I’m also against going to these political competitions.