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Diploma and the "fifth graph". The patronage of the national cadre decomposed the educational system in the USSR

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The national education system still retains many positive features that distinguish it from Western models of school and university education in a favorable way. In many ways, this is the result of the tremendous work on the creation and development of the system of higher and secondary vocational education done in the Soviet era. But the Soviet educational system had one very interesting feature, the influence of which on the social life of the Soviet state is hard to miss. This is a system of training so-called. "National cadres", which was formed in the Soviet era, and its remnants remain to this day. The system of training national personnel had both positive and negative consequences. Let's try to disassemble them more carefully.


In Soviet times, “national personnel” meant specialists and future specialists who are not related to the Russian people, as well as to the Russified or Russified groups of the population of the Soviet Union. For example, a person of non-Russian origin born in Moscow or Voronezh who grew up in a Russian environment was not considered a “national cadre”. The national cadres in abundance supplied the union republics and autonomous republics, territories, regions and districts as part of the union republics. The goal of the national personnel training program was good and seemed to fit into the state ideology — to form in the national regions of the USSR a stratum of party and state employees, educators, health care, engineering and technical personnel who could ensure the viability of republican economies, and most importantly would be a conductor Soviet ideology among their fellow tribesmen.

In the Russian Empire, the “Russian” and “native” worlds were practically broken. Of course, many Germans, Poles, Armenians, Georgians and even Azerbaijanis made a career, especially military, in the Russian Empire, but the overwhelming majority of the representatives of the peoples of Central Asia, the North Caucasus, Transcaucasia practically did not speak Russian and led a traditional way of life for them. Russian culture was spread among individual representatives of these peoples. Moreover, in the Volga region there were whole Tatar, Mari, Mordovian, Udmurt, Chuvash villages, where rare units of local residents spoke Russian.

The October Revolution opened up new development horizons for Russia. One of the important areas was the economic and cultural development of the former "national outskirts" of the Russian Empire. To accomplish this task without the training of national personnel was not possible. One of the first resolutions of the People's Commissariat of Education of the RSFSR in 1918 was the decrees “On the schools of national minorities” and “On the organization of the education of national minorities of the RSFSR”. September 28 1918 was confirmed the right of all peoples of Russia to receive education in their national languages. 29 September 1918 was created by the National Minority Education Department as part of the People's Commissariat of Education. The process of creating bodies responsible for the education of national minorities of the RSFSR at the provincial level has begun. In 1919, an editorial board was organized to create national literature and alphabets of peoples who did not have a written language before.

Today, many nationalist leaders of small nations, arguing about the oppression of national minorities that allegedly took place in Russia and the USSR, forget that the writing and literature of most of the small peoples of Siberia, the Far East, the Urals, the Volga region, and the North Caucasus time and administrative methods, through the adoption of appropriate decisions at the highest level. Specialists - philologists from Moscow and Leningrad were involved in the work on the creation of national alphabets, the "promotion" of national poets and writers, and the state provided generous funding for national literatures and cinema. In the Union and autonomous republics, national languages ​​were taught in high school. Nationalists argue that the volume of teaching of national languages ​​was insignificant, forgetting that before the revolution they were not taught at all, most of the peoples did not have written language, there was no own teaching staff.

Diploma and the "fifth graph". The patronage of the national cadre decomposed the educational system in the USSR


The lightning leap in the direction of raising the cultural and educational level of the peoples of the USSR was made as early as 1920-1930-s, while the formation of a modern education system in a number of Union republics faced a powerful opposition from the conservative-minded part of the local population. It was especially hard for builders of Soviet education in Central Asia. Here the Basmachi mercilessly dealt not only with Soviet party activists, but also with school teachers, even students, especially girls, who, contrary to tradition, went to study. And yet the progress has been very tangible. After all, before the revolution, the overwhelming majority of the inhabitants of Central Asia, Kazakhstan, a number of regions of the Transcaucasus and the North Caucasus were illiterate. The Soviet authorities succeeded in drastically correcting the situation - by the 1930 years. the school system covered the entire population of the Soviet Union.

The next step was the integration of the population of the national republics into the all-union system of vocational education. This was justified by both economic and political objectives. From an economic point of view, the need for training national personnel was explained by the development of industry and agriculture in the republics, including in those regions where there was practically no industrial infrastructure (most of Central Asia and Kazakhstan, some regions of Transcaucasia, the North Caucasus, Ukraine). In the Union and autonomous republics, higher and secondary vocational schools opened - vocational schools, technical schools, institutes, military schools, and universities. It has become common practice to send young people from Central Asia and Kazakhstan, the Transcaucasus, the North Caucasus to vocational educational institutions of the RSFSR and a number of other republics. Nevertheless, until the collapse of the Soviet Union, the economies of Central Asia, Kazakhstan, and Transcaucasia experienced a serious shortage of local skilled workers of practically all specialties, especially engineering and technical personnel.



Workers from the RSFSR, Ukraine and Belarus, who made a huge contribution to the development of the industry of national regions, were sent to the national republics. Pedagogical personnel was also distributed in the republics to provide teachers for urban and even rural schools in the national republics and districts. The program of training national personnel in working specialties yielded results by the middle of the 1930s. So, only from 1927 to 1936. the proportion of Kazakhs in the overall composition of workers and employees in Kazakhstan’s industry increased from 17,7 to 43%. But in the field of training specialists with higher professional education, everything was much more complicated. Without special problems only humanities specialties were trained, first of all - teachers and teachers of national languages, literature, stories. It was they who constituted the most ideological basis of the national intelligentsia, who later acted as agents of anti-Soviet and centrifugal sentiments (but more on that later).

Already in the 1960-e - 1970-s, the system of training national personnel in the Soviet Union began to take on ugly forms. This was due to the fact that the pursuit of quantitative indicators in the training of specialists from the republics began to crowd out the desire to ensure the quality of education. For national staff, they sought to provide special conditions for admission to universities and technical schools, which allowed even poorly prepared school leavers to pass through quotas, leaving “outside the doors” of educational institutions to much more well-prepared peers who did not fall under the quota system.

In the schools themselves, the administration and teachers were forced to drag unprepared students, providing them with satisfactory grades. Such a situation gave applicants from national republics a sense of permissiveness, they understood that even if they did not do it at all, they would be tried to “draw out” them to satisfactory grades and allow them to graduate from a higher educational institution or a technical school. Bribery and the use of connections in the party and state apparatus began to spread. Of course, some Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian students gave bribes, used connections, but national cadres from the Caucasian and Central Asian republics were covered by corruption to a much greater degree.

The same training system operated in respect of personnel arriving in the Soviet Union from the developing countries of Africa, Asia, and Latin America. But if, for example, Cuban students were really motivated to study (it was not by chance that Cuba had one of the best health care systems in the world), then students from many pro-Soviet African and Arab countries studied very mediocrely, showing more interest in entertainment, party than to study. At the same time, since they came to the USSR on the "vouchers" of their communist or people's parties and governments, it was almost impossible to drive them out for academic failure. For the deduction and shipment to the homeland, very weighty reasons were required. For example, Ilyich Ramirez Sánchez, the future "Carlos the Jackal", in 1969 was expelled from the University of Friendship of Peoples. Patrice Lumumba at the request of the Communist Party of Venezuela, from whose youth wing he was expelled a little earlier. If Sanchez had not spoiled relations with the leadership of the Venezuelan Komsomol, then none of the UDN, of course, would not rule out.



One cannot deny the tremendous importance of training national cadres with regard to the economic and cultural development of the national republics of the USSR. Thanks to this system, in most of the national regions of the USSR, its own intelligentsia was formed, the level of education of the local population significantly increased. However, there were also obvious shortcomings of this system, the causes of which were rooted in the peculiarities of the Soviet national policy.

1. The quota system has led to the rooting of the vicious practice of admission to higher education institutions not by abilities, but by nationality. As a result, applicants who did not belong to those nationalities for which quotas were allocated were discriminated. Capable applicants could not enroll in universities, while national cadres who were unprepared to study at universities received preferences and without problems even entered the most prestigious educational institutions.

2. “Special conditions” for students from national regions entailed a decrease in motivation to study, a level of academic performance, material assimilation, and also contributed to the spread of corruption and nepotism in higher and secondary vocational schools. This circumstance caused harm to the national republics themselves, since non-professional cadres who were not capable of independent work and had not mastered their specialties in the appropriate volume returned from universities and institutes.

3. Focusing on national identity, on the problems of national cultures gave a powerful impetus to the development and spread of nationalist sentiments in the Union and autonomous republics. As a result, the opposite effect to the planned effect was achieved - the national intelligentsia became not a conductor of Soviet / Russian influence, but a generator of separatist, nationalist and Russophobic attitudes. Which is understandable, because from a young age, the future color of the national intelligentsia was inspired by their superiority, a complex of national exclusivity was formed.

4. The low level of training of national personnel, due precisely to the quota system and special conditions, has led to the fact that the dependence of national republics on Russian / Russian-speaking personnel in engineering and technical fields has not been eliminated in healthcare. This problem was most clearly manifested after the collapse of the Soviet Union, when the Russian and Russian-speaking population began to leave the republics of Central Asia and the Caucasus in droves.

At present, the Russian education system partly maintains the tendency of “patronage” and “special treatment” towards the national cadres that had been formed in Soviet times. A good example is finishing schools with 100-scores on the Unified State Exam, students from certain national republics, who then, while studying at the university, demonstrate almost complete ignorance of even the school curriculum. Survivors of the system of support of national personnel today create significant obstacles to the development of the education system, act as a serious brake on improving the quality of education in Russian universities, provide fertile ground for corruption and various abuses.
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  1. antivirus
    antivirus 11 December 2017 16: 25
    +2
    "boil" in a small boiler is worse than in a large
    senior positions and other "higher" (((((((((((brackets are not a reason for the "Russians" to relax. Still need to compete with Western universities and companies.
    New tasks appeared before the country.
    The goal is the creation of a developed society (both capitalist and socialist), not the time to drive some to make room for others
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 11 December 2017 17: 14
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      You are right, in the SOVIET UNION not only equalized everyone in their rights, but also often at the expense of RUSSIANS, taught those whom the author called * national outskirts *.
      But the author was afraid to touch the Jews, who entered and graduated from universities with virtually no exams. The allegations of harassment of the Jews were very serious, up to 10 years of hard labor.
      A letter to IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN is known from one of the Jewish students who complained about anti-Semitism at Moscow State University on the grounds that there were fewer Jews than all other students.
      And so it happened that the Jews were so densely settled and * mincult * and * minobr *, and of course healthcare and trade, and much more.
      Do not be afraid to talk about it.
      1. RUSS
        RUSS 11 December 2017 17: 34
        +6
        Quote: Vasily50
        A letter to IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN is known from one of the Jewish students who complained about anti-Semitism at Moscow State University on the grounds that there were fewer Jews than all other students.

        And there was no need to enter Moscow State University laughing , autonomy had been created in Siberia with sunny Birobidzhan and would have studied there, since there is no way to go to Moscow. laughing
        1. RoTTor
          RoTTor 11 December 2017 18: 17
          +3
          And if she is sensible and acted honestly?
          "Without exams" - well, you're fantastic.
          So accepted only at the Institute of the Peoples of the North. Only his graduates in the North never returned almost never. But Russian children from families living in the North, by any lie, on the passport became representatives of the "indigenous peoples of the North" to get into this university. And also do not return.
          In the Republic of Ingushetia, a clear percentage was set for admission of people of Jewish faith to universities.
          Orthodoxy accepted - no restrictions!
          By the way, how many are born and indigenous in Moscow and St. Petersburg, how many come in large numbers?
          Have you forgotten about the limit? Arrived - worked, received housing, quit immediately. Another arrives, everything repeats.
        2. Proxima
          Proxima 11 December 2017 18: 55
          15
          It’s a parable when the director of the “national” plant is a local bogeyman, a kind of wedding general, and the chief engineer is necessarily Russian. Moreover, he does not shine to become a director. One woman will replace another fool Otherwise, we insult the national cadres crying
          1. NF68
            NF68 11 December 2017 20: 48
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            Quote: Proxima
            It’s a parable when the director of the “national” plant is a local bogeyman, a kind of wedding general, and the chief engineer is necessarily Russian. Moreover, he does not shine to become a director. One woman will replace another fool Otherwise, we insult the national cadres crying


            Now you can’t see this everywhere. Babai sit on the babai and chase the baboons.
        3. captain
          captain 11 December 2017 19: 01
          +8
          Quote: RUSS
          Quote: Vasily50
          A letter to IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN is known from one of the Jewish students who complained about anti-Semitism at Moscow State University on the grounds that there were fewer Jews than all other students.

          And there was no need to enter Moscow State University laughing , autonomy had been created in Siberia with sunny Birobidzhan and would have studied there, since there is no way to go to Moscow. laughing

          Anecdote to the topic. Two yerei meet in Tel Aviv. Both come from the former USSR. One says to the other:
          -Monya, you heard that all the Jews from Kiev will soon run to our capital.
          - To us in Tel Aviv?
          _ No, to my place in Moscow.
          1. captain
            captain 11 December 2017 19: 56
            +4
            Quote: RUSS
            Quote: Vasily50
            A letter to IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN is known from one of the Jewish students who complained about anti-Semitism at Moscow State University on the grounds that there were fewer Jews than all other students.

            And there was no need to enter Moscow State University laughing , autonomy had been created in Siberia with sunny Birobidzhan and would have studied there, since there is no way to go to Moscow. laughing

            Another joke. In Birobidzhan, they announced on local television and radio: An urgently needed woman and man with Hebrew knowledge.
            The announcement came out several times and local Ukrainians decided to find out why knowledge of this language in Brobidzhan. They came to the administration indicated, they entered the specified office and say that they are on an announcement about knowledge of Hebrew. The woman who received them shone with happiness and happily informs them that they will tell the governor now that they have finally found a Jewish couple in the Jewish Autonomous Region. And then the delegation comes from Israel to see how Jewish families live in Birobidzhan. Guys Ukrainians crouched in surprise and asked: And what is not one? ". The woman told them longingly:" Everyone escaped after 1956. "
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 11 December 2017 21: 33
              12
              Another Soviet joke, similar:
              At a conference of plant directors, one director asks another:
              "Do you take the Jews to the factory?" He replies: "Yes."
              "And where, where do you get them ???"
              1. Assyrian
                Assyrian 12 December 2017 01: 03
                +8
                Quote: voyaka uh
                "And where, where do you get them ???"

                In the mid-80s, my friend entered the Institute of Steel and Alloys (MISiS). He often recalls that out of 30 people in the group, only he was NOT a Jew.
                1. BAI
                  BAI 12 December 2017 09: 14
                  +3
                  In MEPhI in the early 80s there were no problems with the 5th column, the percentage was normal (in the group - 2 people). But at Moscow State University and psychology at them. Krupskaya was simply not taken. The admission committee Krupskaya immediately sent to Orekhovo-Zuevo, with the words "you will only be accepted there."
                2. voyaka uh
                  voyaka uh 12 December 2017 13: 35
                  +6
                  The physicist Landau was a pretty joker.
                  One day in the 30s he came to a meeting on theoretical
                  physicists, looked at the list of invitees, discovered the name Ivanov
                  and asked the chairman: "And what is this strange pseudonym?"
          2. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 11 December 2017 20: 01
            +8
            Yes, okay, our people wanted to create a big friendly family. It turned out that they defended their homeland during the Second World War. How then it was, it's hard for me to say.
            And there is a mention of foreigners. The house from the grandmother was the library FRIENDSHIP OF PEOPLES and 200.t. world literature. The haste takes from national literature in Russian and translated. How much money, effort, teachers, educational institutions ..... Why was it all? What would blame the Russians for occupation? After all, the titular nation really treated them like parents to children. The children, however, were retarded, incompetent. After all, no republic has shown that it can develop at the union level.
            1. groks
              groks 12 December 2017 19: 21
              +3
              Just how it happened. In Stalingrad, the Kazakh shouted that the Russians were not giving up. Jewish heroes are about 150.
              1. Oleg133
                Oleg133 13 December 2017 05: 07
                +2
                Quote: groks
                In Stalingrad, the Kazakh shouted that the Russians were not giving up.

                And for the sake of this, the Bolsheviks gave the Kazakhs Russian Petropavlovsk, Ust-Kamenogorsk and Faithful?
                1. groks
                  groks 13 December 2017 14: 27
                  0
                  Is it a pity? The union was one - what difference does it make?
                  1. Whispering in the night
                    Whispering in the night 13 December 2017 15: 42
                    0
                    Well, don't you mind? And Crimea with Donbass Khokhlov-also not a pity?
                    1. groks
                      groks 13 December 2017 16: 37
                      +2
                      It’s not at all a pity. Should it? why? I have a mother-in-law in the Donbass and there were no problems whatsoever, not in the RSFSR, but in the UR.
                      1. Whispering in the night
                        Whispering in the night 13 December 2017 21: 18
                        0
                        And where are the current bloody problems of the Donbass people coming from, isn't it what the Bolsheviks donated to the Ukrainian SSR?
        4. trampoline instructor
          trampoline instructor 11 December 2017 23: 01
          +1
          as far as I imagine the “sunny Birobidzhan”, this is not a little Siberia.
          1. RUSS
            RUSS 12 December 2017 07: 30
            +1
            Quote: trampoline instructor
            as far as I imagine the “sunny Birobidzhan”, this is not a little Siberia.

            Far East.
      2. Korsar4
        Korsar4 11 December 2017 21: 35
        0
        Ivan Drozdov has a curious book - The Occupation. There, many things are called their language.
      3. Tramp1812
        Tramp1812 12 December 2017 10: 07
        +3
        Vasily 50.However, however, the “Russian patriots” got all sorts of Gurevichs and Lavochkins constructing worthless MiGs and La, or the Haritons and Ioffe and Landau different there, armed the USSR with atomic weapons, and the ignorant Ginzburg with hydrogen ...
        Because of people like them, such talents as you still have not learned to write correctly in Russian. The reflexive verb "fear" in the context of your super patriotic phrase is written through a soft sign. Teaching it in the class seems like the sixth. “My friend says, breathing a little, Where did you study Golub in Central School of Music?” (Parish school). As everyone has long known (the favorite phrase of the anti-Semites of the site) the theory of relativity was not invented by a Jew Einstein, but by a simple Russian peasant from the Tambov province. But he could not write down because of his illiteracy. Do not be "afraid" to talk about it. As everyone has long known, the Jew Gabriel Abramovich Elizarov, naturally a front-line soldier, was persecuted, was accused of cheating after he invented the drug Elizarov. He did not become an academician because of that very fifth point. The famous neurosurgeon in Russia, Jew Brand, was not admitted to the Odessa Medical Institute, where he was directly told that Jews were not accepted. He entered somewhere in the Siberian outback. Roman Kartsev (Katz) 17 times went to the theater, alas .... Boris Strugatsky just as well, for the same reason, did not take Gorodnitsky, Guberman, Svetin to the physics and technology department ... And Klara Katz (Novikov) even to the factory the worker was not taken because of her Jewish nationality, the famous writer Felix Krivin almost died of starvation, since he was not taken as a Jew to work in post-war Kiev. Well and there on trifles: mass executions of figures of Jewish culture, the murder of Mikhoels, "the case of doctors." These people, with the exception of the innocently killed, were told about everything themselves, with humor, no offense. You can continue as long as you like. Do not be afraid to talk about it. Now this is not. Due to the mass departure of Jews. And you are finally happy and the Jews are happy, and how Israel is happy and cannot be described. Everyone is happy. Here it is happiness. Lived!
      4. Basil50
        Basil50 12 December 2017 14: 08
        0
        rogue
        Well then you are. Mentioned some mention others. You do not want to list the criminals who are quite Jews, or mention the figures of Zionism with their program?
        The workers of Zionism also tried to gain a foothold in the SOVIET UNION. Hatred of Joseph Vissarionovich Stalin precisely because he did not allow this and equated them with all the other peoples of the Soviet Union when, by his direct order, the hard labor term was canceled for refusing the Jews claims.
        1. Tramp1812
          Tramp1812 12 December 2017 15: 07
          +5
          You see Bambino Vasily, the author of the article did not mention the Jews at all, not because he was afraid. And because the message of the article is completely different: the national minorities coming in from quotas were selected not by competition, knowledge and abilities, but exclusively by national quota. To the detriment of other nationalities, including Russians and Jews. As a result, some of the graduates were of poor quality. This is the author’s first thought. Second: graduates from national minorities made up the elite of the subjects of the USSR, which was the initiator of the collapse of the state. Well, where do the Jews, who not only, like the Russians, had absolutely no benefits, but who have not yet been admitted to most universities, precisely on a national basis. Could go to study only on the periphery. Therefore, they did their best and studied better than others. I know for myself. In order for Jews to turn out to be anti-heroes of this article, it is necessary: ​​A. that all Jewish applicants have the level of knowledge of ethnic minorities — Uzbeks, Tajiks, Chukchi, etc., upon admission to universities. B. so that at the legislative level during the times of the USSR, Jews were vested with the right to receive preferential quotas, like the same Uzbeks, Karakalpaks, and Tajiks. There was neither the first nor the second. Therefore, Jewish students are not mentioned in the article. I completely agree with the author. Let Uzbekistan, or there, Turkmenistan train personnel for themselves. Your post in this context is an ordinary anti-Semitic attack, which was immediately answered by the character on the site - Mr. Rotmister. Talking about Zionism, Jewish criminals, about the best friend of Jews - Joseph Vissarionovich - is completely off topic. But since you have been identified, let me briefly. I am personally an ideological and most convinced Zionist. And I am one hundred percent convinced that all the ordeals of the Jews ended at one moment, while realizing the main and only goal of Zionism, the creation of a Jewish state, which at this moment is one of the most prosperous states in the world. And only in Thanks to Zionism, Israel lives as they want, because of security, neither Syria, nor Iran, nor Russia, nor the United States, but exclusively Israel. And the Jews in it and thanks to Israel and Zionism and only they on the planet are not threatened by such like you or there like his - "captain" and like you - Hitler, Petliura, Bandera and Co. No country stood up for Jews during the riots in the Republic of Ingushetia, the Holocaust. Not a single country, including the United States, has taken the Jews who survived during the Second World War en masse. Only Israel did (and does). But Zionists needed Soviet Russia only for one thing: the emigration of brothers to Israel. Neither Trotsky, nor Kaganovich, nor Zinoviev, Kamenev, Radek, and others were Zionists. These were communist internationalists, who before the lantern had the national idea of ​​Zionism. As we say to Stalin, Bukharin, Yezhov, Kirov and all the rest of their party comrades.
          1. Razvedka_Boem
            Razvedka_Boem 12 December 2017 18: 31
            +2
            "Horses mixed up in a bunch, people .."
            By syntax, a space is placed after the punctuation mark, and not before it.
            To put "b" or not, it is easy to determine by answering the question - "what to do, what to do." At the end of "b", then there is a soft sign.
            For Jews and Zionism - Israel is a project that has been implemented, including thanks to the USSR. At least, it was the Victory of the USSR over fascist Germany that helped preserve the Jews as an ethnic group.
            And in its current form - Israel exists solely thanks to the help of the United States, which has a strongly Jewish lobby.
            Everything else is demagogy.
            With all this, I have a neutral attitude towards Israel, and a positive attitude towards Jews, especially with those with whom I studied together)
          2. user
            user 12 December 2017 19: 05
            +2
            I am personally an ideological and convinced Zionist.


            Finally found a site where the Jews are not spread rot, but it is better to switch to another. As for the state of Israel, life there is not the same as you briefly described here, and when repatriates from the countries of the former USSR collide, for some reason, then, for the most part, they will be mixed into the USA or Canada. As for the Jewish people, so to speak from experience, they all try hard, again I’m talking about the territory of the former USSR - in the USA, by the way, they are grouped by ethnicity - probably against goys, all life surrounded by enemies - well, what kind of people do you want? after that attitude to yourself.
            By the way, do not write nonsense like you were in Israel?
            Visas are not needed there today, but you probably took the image of a noble, educated Jew from the proverb “When a crest was born a Jew cried” - with which we congratulate you.
          3. groks
            groks 12 December 2017 19: 29
            0
            did not mention the Jews

            Porridge. From the rational to the frenzied. Moreover, frenzy above the level of the liquidators, significantly higher.
            I will not comment, since there is a clear inadequacy.
  2. Monarchist
    Monarchist 11 December 2017 16: 34
    10
    So it was. That's for sure: "by good intentions the road was sent to hell." It seems to me that such nonsense began in 50-60, when they decided that higher education was needed.
    Ilya correctly noted: "The party and the government rendered themselves a disservice to themselves with a" generator of separatist, nationalist and Russophobic sentiments. "
    In 1979-80, I came across a book published in Nalchik, the local regional committee, where there is such a passion about the Caucasian War that Anal is resting. It’s rare until 1917, but they had their own teachers and for some reason they didn’t have a desire to denigrate us, and now they are: “with a mustache”
    1. RoTTor
      RoTTor 11 December 2017 18: 10
      14
      Local cadres who studied local languages ​​were especially distinguished by vicious nationalism.
      Because those who went under this privilege were unable to enroll or learn in another, especially engineering, specialty.
      The crazy chauvinist-Russofbka Farion is a vivid example: a member of the CPSU, secretary of the Komsomol committee ... of the philological faculty of Lviv University, the secretary gave her a recommendation. LKSMU committee of the university Stepan Kubiv, now vice-premier of present Ukraine.
      Kravchuk is the son of the Polish gendarme vahmistra, but from the village and from Western Ukraine. Yushchenko is the son of the fascist camp capo, a member of the CPSU. Marchuk and Nalyvaichenko are philologists and traitors who ended up in the KGB. The list of such failures is endless.
      Personnel policy since Khoushevsky time is a failure
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 11 December 2017 20: 48
      +9
      Quote: Monarchist
      It seems to me that such nonsense began in 50-60, when they decided that higher education was needed.

      Yes, no sooner. When the fight against "Great Russian chauvinism" began.
    3. Proxima
      Proxima 11 December 2017 22: 50
      +1
      I agree with your post, except for the first line.
      Quote: Monarchist
      So it was. That's for sure: "by good intentions the road was sent to hell."

      Intentions, which are realized due to the suffering of others, DO NOT BE APPOINTED AS A priori!
      That's due to whom the Baltics and hedgehog flourished. In the photo there is an "elite" wedding in the Soviet non-black soil. It seems to be a joy, but I want to cry!

      And about: “Kamrad Proxima (something Latin, but what?)” - everything is simple here. I am a lover of astronomy. Proxima is the star closest to the solar system. Before her just (without quotes) 4 light years. That in stellar distances is a real micron. winked
    4. Oleg133
      Oleg133 13 December 2017 05: 17
      +1
      Quote: Monarchist
      "" a generator of separatist, nationalist and Russophobic sentiments "the party and the government themselves did a disservice

      And who told you that this service is bearish?
      Read the early Bolsheviks and their attitude towards the Russians. They did what they were talking about. And the Russian Federation is a loyal successor to this cause.
  3. RoTTor
    RoTTor 11 December 2017 16: 44
    11
    A number of nationalities of the USSR had serious "prohibitions on the profession."

    In the Russian Empire, the column "nationality" was absent in the passport, ONLY religion was recorded.
    Any citizen of RI who converted to Orthodoxy had NO restrictions on a career in any field.

    The People’s Commissar I.V. Stalin made a grand mistake by introducing the "fifth point", which turned out to be a time bomb laid down under the USSR, as well as the transition from provincial / regional division to national entities - union and autonomous republics, districts, regions.
    However, a new community of people - the great "Soviet people" really existed.
    It was the ONE SOVIET PEOPLE that ensured all the victories and achievements of the USSR, and it was against him that the main blow of the enemies was directed.
    The main thing now is not to repeat those mistakes.
    It seems that he is going in the right direction, but slowly and not very confidently
    1. Whispering in the night
      Whispering in the night 13 December 2017 15: 47
      0
      Quote: RoTTor

      However, a new community of people - the great "Soviet people" really existed.
      It was the ONE SOVIET PEOPLE that ensured all the victories and achievements of the USSR, and it was against him that the main blow of the enemies was directed.

      Yes, there was no such generality, and if it was, it was only on paper. And the times of Gorbachev perestroika, when the Soviet people crumbled like a house of cards, were convincingly proved.


      The main thing now is not to repeat those mistakes.
      It seems that he is going in the right direction, but slowly and not very confidently

      Where is going? Again, at the expense of the Russian Baltic states with the Kirghiz to raise, which "how many wolves do not feed"? No thanks, we don’t need this anymore!
  4. RoTTor
    RoTTor 11 December 2017 17: 04
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    The same quotas for admission to universities were for the villagers.
    Forged and bought the "necessary" nationality and, especially, social origin - i.e. the capable and motivated son of an engineer, teacher, doctor was a loser in comparison with the son of a worker and a peasant. They circumvented this as well: the poor threesome, the son of the director, went to vocational schools for a year and was already considered a "worker", out of competition in a specialized university, plus there were places in the best universities of the country.
    This is where the many questionnaires came from that have become traitors
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 12 December 2017 07: 46
      +4
      I can show by my example: I was the son of an employee and entered the university at the age of 17 the first time. Right after school. My fellow countryman studied with me for 23 years, who after school served 2 years in the army + 3 years worked at the factory. Received at the same time. So your "theory of losers" does not hold water.
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  6. kalibr
    kalibr 11 December 2017 18: 04
    +3
    Oh, how well I know all this ...
  7. RUSS
    RUSS 11 December 2017 19: 14
    +7
    I often hear - “we are schools, hospitals, etc.,” and they are not grateful. “But did they need it and need it now? Maybe it’s not worth it with your samovar? I have Tajiks who are familiar, so their son finished 4th grade in Russia and that’s all, to my question- “why didn’t he study further?” The answer was simple- “and we don’t need any more, in Tajikistan the neighbors also didn’t finish school, but they trade very well and live well, so 4 classes will be enough. "Like that ....
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 11 December 2017 19: 17
      +5
      In Mongolia, when the five-story building was built for the brotherly people, everything went wrong too laughing after the Mongols ruined the boiler room as unnecessary, they began to heat the stoves that they installed in the apartments, and then generally went back to their yurts
      1. trampoline instructor
        trampoline instructor 12 December 2017 08: 08
        +4
        My late grandfather in the second half of the 30s was the chairman of the district executive committee in the West Kazakhstan region. the newly formed Kazakh Republic. A directive came from above - to provide housing for the nomadic Kazakh population. He allocated several huts to these nomadic Kazakhs. After some time, the inspection commission arrived to see how the nomadic peoples are moving onto the rails of civilized life. They crossed - in the middle of the huts they made fires, and the roofs in the center were dismantled so that the smoke came out. Housing has been ruined. It was 1938, my grandfather was arrested and imprisoned for sabotage. He served 1.5 years, released him to the Finnish. They suggested that the RKPb recover, but he refused.
        This is how the training of the wild nomadic peoples of Kazakhstan for civilized life took place. And now in those parts and Russian almost no more: ((
    2. Dart2027
      Dart2027 11 December 2017 20: 50
      +3
      Quote: RUSS
      But did they need it and do they need it now? Maybe not worth it with your samovar?

      Unfortunately, many did not understand this.
  8. Blue cop
    Blue cop 11 December 2017 19: 30
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    Everything must be one
    Equated to the titular nation
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 11 December 2017 22: 05
      +5
      This was understood in all the states that existed in the history of mankind. In addition to two: the USSR and Austria-Hungary.
  9. 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 11 December 2017 19: 50
    +6
    Good article about a well-forgotten rake.
  10. fiberboard
    fiberboard 11 December 2017 21: 08
    +5
    The article is very correct.
  11. Korsar4
    Korsar4 11 December 2017 21: 39
    +4
    Much has been so. Quotas for Central Asia, the Caucasus. Some guys are pretty cute. But they treated them more condescendingly. And for Kostroma, Vologda, Orenburg village children there were no preferences.

    But it all went away. Now new pages of life. With your problems.
  12. trampoline instructor
    trampoline instructor 11 December 2017 22: 55
    +4
    One of the many omissions and mistakes in the sphere of national relations in the USSR. Ultimately, all taken together led to the collapse of the Union.
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 12 December 2017 04: 51
      0
      But what is the fate of Russia? Teach, feed, nanny, help, support, educate, provide means! Now help the independents! Yes, protect the borders.
      1. trampoline instructor
        trampoline instructor 12 December 2017 07: 31
        +1
        The fate of Russia is determined by its rulers. And teach-feed is NOT NECESSARY. But the rulers are not able to understand this.
        Many republics, by definition, are not able to be independent - 3 Baltic, Belarus, Moldova, Kyrgyzstan, Armenia, Georgia, Tajikistan. Another thing is that Russian foreign policy was and is absolutely mediocre in places, and many of them managed to sell themselves to their Western partners, who now use them. But Russia is pretending that it does not concern anything.
      2. Michael_Zverev
        Michael_Zverev 14 December 2017 23: 22
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        Quote: Reptiloid
        But what is the fate of Russia? Teach, feed, nanny, help, support, educate, provide means! Now help the independents! Yes, protect the borders.


        "Bear the burden of the Whites
        Among the tribes of strangers -
        Send your sons
        Serve for their good;
        Tired of working
        For afflicted people -
        Half demons
        So many children.
        Bear the burden of the Whites -
        Not daring to lose heart
        Neither malice nor pride
        Do not try to manifest;
        Accessible words
        Get them involved
        And for myself in that matter
        Don’t look for benefits.
        Bear the burden of the Whites -
        So that the noise of war is quiet
        And give food to the hungry
        And cure the sick.
        When victory is near
        See you please
        Like someone's laziness and stupidity
        Multiply everything by zero.
        Bear the burden of the Whites -
        Not the right of kings -
        Your destiny will be
        That labor that is more difficult for everyone.
        And what you built here
        While there was enough strength
        Let the monument be
        To all those who did not live.
        Bear the burden of the Whites -
        The bitter fruit of it:
        Scolding angry for caring
        Oblivion for the labors.
        Not once will you hear here
        From the same savages, -
        “Why should we go to the light?
        Our darkness is sweeter to us. ”
        Bear the burden of the Whites -
        Do not rot before people
        And screams of freedom
        Only weakness, damn it.
        And according to your actions
        And according to you
        Will give you a rating
        And to all your gods.
        Bear the burden of the Whites -
        And accumulate from a young age
        A wreath of cheap laurels,
        Stingy praise bouquet.
        But at the sunset of life
        Without any fuss
        Let your work be appreciated
        The same as you! "(C)
        laughing
  13. LeonidL
    LeonidL 12 December 2017 04: 29
    +1
    An excellent, very well-reasoned and logically constructed article. It’s a pity if it doesn’t reach the top.
  14. tasha
    tasha 12 December 2017 04: 59
    +2
    The article is entertaining, but, unfortunately, unworked and ill-conceived.
    I will insert a link to an article from LJ. I recommend reading it as one of the answers to the author’s arguments. I think that Ilya should be read ...

    "About quotas in institutions, discrimination and the real world"
    https://lex-kravetski.livejournal.com/280557.html

    Chic Quote:
    What is typical in modern times is the whistleblower of Soviet quotas, if they are of Russian nationality, then under the chocks invariably mean Caucasians and Asians, and if they are Jewish nationalities they mean Russians. The USSR has fallen - enjoy the friendship of peoples.
  15. BAI
    BAI 12 December 2017 09: 20
    +2
    National quotas - this is of course a pipe (I would call it differently, but the moderator will clean it). When all the merit is that you speak Russian badly. It is necessary to treat it not by nationality, but by knowledge. And as a result, they got the degradation of the whole higher education (here you can remember about a fly in the ointment and a black sheep). And so friends said that in universities that fell under quotas (the system was not in all universities), fraternities were created and the situation became intolerable.
  16. Old26
    Old26 12 December 2017 12: 24
    +4
    Quote: Vasily50
    You are right, in the SOVIET UNION not only equalized everyone in their rights, but also often at the expense of RUSSIANS, taught those whom the author called * national outskirts *.
    But the author was afraid to touch the Jews, who entered and graduated from universities with virtually no exams. The allegations of harassment of the Jews were very serious, up to 10 years of hard labor.
    A letter to IOSIF VISSARIONOVICH STALIN is known from one of the Jewish students who complained about anti-Semitism at Moscow State University on the grounds that there were fewer Jews than all other students.
    And so it happened that the Jews were so densely settled and * mincult * and * minobr *, and of course healthcare and trade, and much more.
    Do not be afraid to talk about it.

    The article is over interesting, but does not agree with the author on everything. Yes, there was training of "national cadres", but the phrase about the fact that, because of them, applicants from other nationalities could not do it, let's say, is somewhat far-fetched.
    First, the number of such students was not in the tens or hundreds.
    Secondly, often the same immigrants from the union republics or republics of the North Caucasus (for the most part, since the quotas were not so large and probably mainly related to certain metropolitan universities) came on a common basis. For example, I had a chance to work at the department with a guy from Chechnya, who acted on a common basis, did not get a pass, and entered the evening. His fellow countrymen did the same. Maybe someone from the elite of these republics acted according to the special forces, but the elite is most often small.
    IN 3. As for the Jews. Do not la la if you do not know. They, if they did not have a gold medal, acted on a common basis. And if they got four on the only exam for medalists, they passed like everyone else. A guy from Odessa, a Jew, studied with me in the same group. And I must say, I studied perfectly. And was the only Jew in the group

    As for the letter to I.V., to Stalin from a student - fools are everywhere.

    Modern students from African countries now, unlike the USSR, are studying, and they are studying not for fear, but for conscience. Understanding that if they return and will not know anything at the same time - for them it can end in disaster.
  17. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 12 December 2017 14: 50
    +2
    Wonderful article! Already a tear knocked out. crying
  18. Sasha_Sar
    Sasha_Sar 12 December 2017 15: 37
    +1
    One small example from my own life. Having entered and undergoing training at VVMU in the mid-80s, we had such insanity. An order came to the head of the school about the "national staff". Provide them with additional leave to the main for agitation admission to military schools. At the same time, Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians do not count. But the Moldovans and the rest "army" fell under this order. But the trick is that the Moscow Tatars became the same as the national staff. In the company, in the first year, Tajik and Uzbek studied with me. Tajik at the first winter session received two deuces, went home and expelled himself. The Uzbek got a deuce, went on vacation, but did not deduct. All five years he was put in triples. Only in the fourth year the teacher drove a deuce to the mat.part of naval artillery, the poet’s soul and his arrogance could not stand it. You should have seen his face at that moment. But he handed over to another teacher. He received lieutenant epaulettes and left to serve in Baku. I can say one thing, for Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians, there was no such attitude to study. Two deuces in the session, deduction by automatic machine, demon of the right of re-transfer; twice at the re-transfer I received a “banana” deduction. All retake on vacation. That was such a national policy.
    1. Sasha_Sar
      Sasha_Sar 12 December 2017 15: 40
      0
      But of course there were strong "shots." Two years older than me, a Kazakh cadet studied, he came to the school barefoot from the village, entered and studied well and excellently.
      1. Razvedka_Boem
        Razvedka_Boem 12 December 2017 18: 42
        +4
        I came to the school barefoot from the village

        My father also went to the city in one chapan, to enter a university .. As a result, he graduated with honors, specialty architect.
        Uncle - served in the Pacific Fleet for five years, unlearned as a geologist and successfully worked in his specialty.
        Another uncle, a chemist, defended his Ph.D.
        Another - he taught English, studied in Moscow.
        I myself am an Uzbek, but I don’t think that my knowledge and skills are inferior here to those who comment.
        The article is controversial. Who wanted to study - studied, and there are enough boobies everywhere.
  19. Altona
    Altona 12 December 2017 20: 00
    +2
    Quote: Rogue1812
    Vasily 50.However, however, the “Russian patriots” got all sorts of Gurevichs and Lavochkins constructing worthless MiGs and La, or the Haritons and Ioffe and Landau different there, armed the USSR with atomic weapons, and the ignorant Ginzburg with hydrogen ...

    -------------------------
    Why didn’t they mention Isaac Valtsman and Joseph Kotin, Yuri Levitan? Anatoly Wasserman, for example, too? These are very worthy sons of the Fatherland. It's not about the Jews as such and other nationalities. Just the indulgence of one nationality gives rise to small-town. We see the dominance on TV of only one characters, headed by Vladimir Rudolfovich Solovyov and Vladimir Volfovich Zhirinovsky. Why not give the floor to others? I’m also a national squared, ethnically non-Russian, a cross between a Komi-Permyak and a Chuvash (although I can still pick up a couple of other nationalities in my origin (. The topic is extensive. I could develop it at least for an article, but I won’t take it on. And so I came to be known as anti-Semite,
    anti-Semitic, xenophobic, write what you need.
    PS But in general, the village is now trampled into the cities. If there was internationalism under the Soviet regime, now the reverse process is going on - wrapping up, selukovost, small-town on all levels. Jews began to drown for the Nazis, which in general is beyond good and evil.
  20. Old26
    Old26 13 December 2017 10: 10
    0
    Quote: Altona
    I’m also a national squared, ethnically non-Russian, a cross between a Komi-Permyak and a Chuvash (although I can still get a couple of other nationalities in my origin

    good In three tribes (parents, grandfather, grandfather and great-grandmother) I counted eight. The daughter added everything else to the ninth nationality in the blood
  21. groks
    groks 13 December 2017 21: 27
    0
    Whispering in the night,
    I absolutely can not catch the logic. Fascists in Kiev have nothing to do with it? Is this all a bloody totalitarian regime? The reincarnation of Novodvorskaya? Or a St. Petersburg Satanist Jew (s) dragged into his sect?
  22. M. Michelson
    M. Michelson 14 December 2017 05: 04
    +1
    Yes, not about that article! You might think that they indulged the national cadres for some stupidity. Not by stupidity, but forcedly they did so to preserve the unity of the patchwork state!
    Therefore, in fact, it is written that ... the collapse of the USSR was not at all a tragedy! And it was, although painful, but positive for Russia. (The fact that some people tried to do everything to make it a tragedy is a special conversation.)
    1. trampoline instructor
      trampoline instructor 14 December 2017 19: 01
      +1
      Internationalism, according to Lenin, should consist in those concessions of the Great Russian nation to the national suburbs that would compensate them for the centuries-old oppression brought by tsarism. Only concessions and your careful attitude can enlist. " maximum confidence in the proletarian class struggle on the part of foreigners ”[7; 359]
  23. wooja
    wooja 1 July 2018 12: 21
    0
    A useful article, unfortunately the Bolsheviks got a great deal on the national question, he made a significant contribution to the collapse of the USSR, the 5th graph really turned out to be a time bomb, Stalin came to his senses too late, 15% of non-Jews in the Soviet government in the 20s ..., medicine is powerless here. The division of the country according to nationality was a mistake on the one hand, or it was a planned diversion ....
  24. Murat_Nalchik
    Murat_Nalchik 11 January 2021 22: 47
    0
    "In Soviet times," national cadres "were understood as specialists and future specialists who do not belong to the Russian people"
    ================================================== ==
    Lying. Blatant lie. I myself entered the Faculty of Economics of Moscow State University in 1986 as a "national cadre", and about half of those who entered this way were Russians from the Union and Autonomous Republics.