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VTsIOM: more than 82% of Russians approve of Putin’s activities

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More than 82% of Russian citizens positively evaluate the work of Russian President Vladimir Putin. Such data are quoted on Friday by the All-Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM) on its website.


The presidential approval rate throughout the year is at a level higher than 80%, according to the latest figures (November 27 - December 3), it is 82,4%
- said in a statement.

VTsIOM: more than 82% of Russians approve of Putin’s activities


According to a survey by VTsIOM, 54% and 58,8% of respondents, respectively, gave a positive assessment of the work of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and the cabinet ministers. The approval ratings of the State Duma and the Federation Council, measured once a month, after a decline in October rose slightly in November (51,2% and 56,3%, respectively).

Putin consistently leads the trust rating of politicians, the VTsIOM notes, at the end of November his figure was 53% (do not trust 3,3%). The second and third place in terms of citizen confidence is taken by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu (17,9%) and Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev (16,1%).

Anti-rating is traditionally headed by [the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party] Vladimir Zhirinovsky, and in November, the level of Russians' distrust towards him increased markedly - from 28,1% to 31,9%. Ksenia Sobchak enters the top 5 out of distrust (8,4%)
- According to the release, while 0,2% of respondents approve of Sobchak's activity.

In addition to Sobchak and Zhirinovsky, the top-5 politicians who are not trusted the most are Dmitry Medvedev (14,9%), Communist Party Leader Gennady Zyuganov (14,8%) and Just Russia’s Chairman Sergei Mironov (4%).

The confidence rating of blogger Alexei Navalny is 1,2%, while they do not trust him 3,6% of respondents.

United Russia's electoral rating in recent weeks has been at 52,1-52,3%. The average LDPR index from November 27 to December 3 was 10,1%, KPRF - 9,4%, and "Fair Russia" - 4,6%.

As part of the initiative of all-Russian polls "VTsIOM-Sputnik" every day, 600 respondents are polled in at least the 80 regions of the Russian Federation. The results of the study show the average values ​​for the seven days of the survey, for a week the sample size is 4200 respondents. For a given random sample, the maximum error size with a probability of 95% does not exceed 1,9%.
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  1. Teberii
    Teberii 8 December 2017 11: 11 New
    +2
    Consistency is the key to success. Putin-Sobchak's competitors are ridiculous to even compare.
    1. Shura Perm
      Shura Perm 8 December 2017 11: 13 New
      17
      He simply doesn’t have any alternatives ... but for me the foreign policy is by 5 with a plus, the internal one is by the three… he needs to think about the people
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 8 December 2017 12: 08 New
        11
        The second half of all the years of his power is a time of lost opportunity for the state. And super opportunities for officials and the oligarchy. But there are really no other candidates besides him.
        1. passing
          passing 9 December 2017 19: 37 New
          0
          so what, besides him, no one has become a candidate, and he has not yet become.
        2. Skif83
          Skif83 10 December 2017 10: 13 New
          0
          Maybe they are, other worthy candidates, but who will let them go there?
          And anyway, who is this VTsIOM? The surname is somehow Jewish ... laughing
      2. Saburov
        Saburov 8 December 2017 14: 26 New
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        Quote: Shura Perm
        He simply doesn’t have any alternatives ... but for me the foreign policy on 5 is positive


        Foreign policy on 2! Since our state should benefit from the results of foreign policy, and we only lose. In general, our foreign policy, which, it would seem, is focused on, did not bring any positive, high-quality fruits! Union State of Russia and Belarus - span. Ukraine is the span. Asian republics - even Kazakhstan, and that is being rebuilt from us, only the dust is worth it! About foreign countries keep silent out of delicacy. Not to mention all these sanctions and more.

        Quote: Shura Perm
        internal for C grade


        For such an internal policy in the 40's they shot as an enemy of the people!

        Either this is from shortsightedness, or from betrayal. They tell us that they say the United States is an enemy. And our Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation is stored in US government bonds ... strange. Why is our power rubbing us on patriotism and the achievements of a completely different state called the USSR? Why are they telling us to live badly for our Motherland, while the accounts and villas themselves abroad tell us about love for the Motherland, and the offspring and wives themselves live and study abroad, they frighten us with the State Department and the Anglo-Saxons, and they themselves can’t open their mouths against them? when it comes down to it, they talk about import substitution, and they themselves use Mercedes, iPhones and drink French cognacs and, moreover, write such laws under which crontons come to our industry with such loans for factories and businesses, with the complete destruction of secondary specialized education and complete absence m skilled workers. Why does our Sberbank give its citizens mortgage loans in 12-16 percent, and in "malicious" Poland or the Czech Republic under 5-6 percent? Let the authorities explain to the people how the state was going to substitute if it doesn’t produce a damn and there are no capacities and nothing has been created for this, no conditions, no production facilities, no specialists? We turn to handicraft instead of CNC machines and wooden abacus? This import substitution campaign is generally conceived to finally bury our industry. Here is just the law on new privatization on the way. They do not understand this, that just science and technology make life cheaper? Starting with heavy machinery, ending with a mixer in the kitchen. And now all of this has risen in price, and as a result, thousands of small and medium-sized enterprises have suffered, which just produced competitive products due to these technologies. And the defense industry generally slowed down by at least ten years, at least until they made an analogue, until it was brought to mind and, as a result, they would lag anyway. Why did you play Pokémon in the church, get 3,5 of the year (albeit conditionally). He stole 3 billion, will be released in the courtroom or in a month you will be released on parole! Why can a Dane, Japanese or Australian can buy a car, a combine harvester or good computing equipment several times cheaper than ours? In our country, even cars cost percent on 20-30 more expensive than practically all over the world, and even domestic cars are expensive, as well as loans for them. And by the way, why do we have simply predatory loans for industrialists? But the Ministry of Finance does not want to subsidize loans that are too expensive, and we do not have inexpensive loans! And the result is a vicious circle! The key rate at which the Central Bank lends to banks is 9%. This is fucking! But the bank also winds up the same amount on its loans. And he pays 10% to investors for using their funds, and he offers the same money to borrowers at the rate of 25%. A business that could afford to pay such a percentage while working legally simply does not exist. In such conditions, our economy will never work !!! And the funny thing is that domestic banks, including the Central Bank and Sberbank, prefer to invest in Western economies (primarily in the US economy), but they don’t consider Russian at all a place for investment! It’s more convenient to steal, under the guise of fighting corruption and confronting the United States. Moreover, even if we compare the 90 and the current state of our country, nothing has changed in the essence of power. Lawlessness of officials as it was and is. Lack of justice - as it was, it is. An economy serving the interests of several dozen petro-oligarchs - as it was, it has remained. The financial system as it was a dollar exchanger, so it remains. Investments, instead of developing the domestic economy, as they went primarily to purchase US government bonds, so go. The degradation of education - as it was, is continuing ...

        PS The other day a poem scattered across social networks, which can be called nothing more than a cry of the soul. The poem is quite strong and clearly shows our whole reality.
        This poem was written by a nurse at the Lotoshinsky Central District Hospital. She placed him in classmates, she was blocked. Then she placed it again, someone shared, someone copied. And so it went ...

        I throw a stone at your garden
        In beautiful ties dumb mutt!
        Why don’t you love people so much
        Feeding your “righteous” w. py?
        Who am I? I am an ordinary nurse.
        I live, I feed children on 10.300.
        And there is no longer hope for Christ.
        More and more often I remember the Communists ...
        Teacher, doctor - there is pride and honor ...
        The leader of the plant is honor and glory.
        Both to the resort and to the sanatorium every year
        The country sent its workers.
        And I'm sitting and crying. How do i live?
        I am not a lazy person, I am a citizen of Russia!
        I teach children to love my homeland,
        But here for what - they cannot explain to them ...
        My father did not live up to retirement ...
        He fed his family, could not stand the load ...
        And I always paid to the pension fund!
        Where is his money? To children? Fuck you Russian!
        And mother, having survived two heart attacks,
        She taught children OUR, RUSSIAN SPEECH,
        As a result, a cookie with butter received ...
        Why does the state cripple us so?
        Holy and Naked Our people
        Donates a penny to children for salvation,
        A "father" in a jeep sings to us,
        Wishes everyone universal patience.
        The daughter wants to sing and dance
        Studying at school for one five ...
        But what can a medical mom give her?
        Once a month, meat ... How bitter it is!
        A mighty, great country
        You are an unshakable power ...
        So why don't you value a damn
        Ordinary people who created your glory?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 8 December 2017 17: 29 New
          +7
          Quote: Saburov
          Foreign policy at 2! Since our state should benefit from the results of foreign policy, and we only lose.

          Quote: Saburov
          For such an internal policy in the 40's they shot as an enemy of the people!

          Great koment, everything is absolutely true! I fully support. soldier
          Special thanks for the poem! hi
        2. Lexus
          Lexus 8 December 2017 19: 06 New
          +9
          Thank you for the comment and poem! .. It would be naive to expect other survey results from the Poggy VTsIOM. They live well at the trough, and mathematics is an uncompromising science. Management - their element - 2x2 = 82.
        3. osoboye_mneniye
          osoboye_mneniye 8 December 2017 20: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: Saburov
          Why are they telling us to live badly for our Motherland, while the accounts and villas themselves abroad tell us about love for the Motherland, and the offspring and wives themselves live and study abroad, they frighten us with the State Department and the Anglo-Saxons, and they themselves can’t open their mouths against them? when it comes down to it, they talk about import substitution, and they themselves use Mercedes, iPhones and drink French cognacs and, moreover, write such laws under which crontons come to our industry with such loans for factories and businesses, with the complete destruction of secondary specialized education and complete absence m skilled workers.

          Ah, what a cheap agitation. Why are you working so sloppy? Exactly the same thing was said about the Communists. And now too. Eternal song, how to equate power and lawlessness)) And completely unfounded allegations.
          It's time to change the training manual.
          It would be better if you talked about what is good and what is bad. There is no specificity in your words. You only deal with reproof. It gives you an engagement.
          I can only say that Putin, in domestic politics, tightened control over officials and business, removed business from the shadows, and consolidated capable work forces. People gradually come to their senses.
          But it is bad that he has to rely on the power of the oligarchs in the absence of national industry, etc. I believe that this is temporary.
          About foreign policy know-how. We have someone to be friends with and there is someone to fight outside. And so far we are friends with many more than we are fighting. This is undoubtedly a plus of foreign policy. We lose sight of important issues. This is a minus. But everything will work out, I'm sure.
          1. Alf
            Alf 8 December 2017 22: 10 New
            +7
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            I believe that this is temporary.

            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            But everything will work out, I'm sure.

            Read George Orwell's Animal Farm.
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 11: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: Alf
              Read George Orwell's Animal Farm.

              Read 1984. The style of the author is clear.
              I do not argue, parallels with modern society can be traced.
              The question is different. You all have chosen capitalism. I say that they chose because they obey the rules of the game.
              At the same time, you want to live like under communism.
              It's impossible.
              In the current balance of power in your country, Putin squeezed out the maximum possible for citizens. When everyone understands this, then they will stop nodding at Putin and begin to move.
              Here you can read smart books. Can you organize your own business, hire workers, pay them salaries and taxes to the state, and overcome bureaucratic chaos? Can you unite the owners in your apartment building to defend your interests in front of communal services? Can you unite the residents of nearby houses to fight the developer for your square? Can your parents at a school or kindergarten get together on a community work day and repair the playground? Or will you wait for Putin to do this for you?
              You can’t ... Putin does it for you. You can only read books and push clever thoughts on forums. No offense. Even if you’re not like that, then most of the population lives in that particular regime.
              1. Alf
                Alf 9 December 2017 16: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                to overcome bureaucratic chaos?

                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                to deal with the developer for your square?

                How can you defeat these officials and developers who act within the framework of the laws that Putin signed?
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Putin does it for you.

                And what exactly is he doing for us? Is the list possible?
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 19: 14 New
                  0
                  Most importantly, from what I said, you, of course, missed your ears. You have not answered any of my questions. But you have a bunch of questions for the president. It characterizes you.
                  Quote: Alf
                  How can you defeat these officials and developers who act within the framework of the laws that Putin signed?

                  Can! Difficult, but possible. It is only necessary to unite, because the bourgeoisie has more resources .. Putin, in fact, has signed laws that allow this. You just are too lazy to move, and you expect that for you everything will be done for you.
                  Have you tried it yourself before asking?
                  Quote: Alf
                  And what exactly is he doing for us? Is the list possible?

                  He fights corruption. Establishes housing and communal services. Saves the enterprise. Only he is alone, and you loafers are many. His support is weak. Mostly forum and sofa troops. Nobody wants to help with business. But there are many bourgeois, and they are strong. Yes, you yourself work for them yourself)) And how do you want to deal with them in this situation?
                  1. passing
                    passing 9 December 2017 20: 12 New
                    +4
                    Enough of the slogans!
                    Fighting corruption
                    Where is the confiscation? to leave a state official in his underpants after a court verdict will reduce corruption by orders of magnitude.
                    Establishes housing and communal services
                    And why are these financial pads? It’s not a secret to anyone that not everything comes from them to suppliers.
                    We just need to unite, because the bourgeois have more resources

                    This is the main thing that needs to be united in order to remove the bourgeoisie, and not boast of small victories in this corrupt state. I respect China more and more, this is an example for our future power
                    1. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 22: 47 New
                      0
                      Quote: passing
                      Where is the confiscation? to leave a state official in his underpants after a court verdict will reduce corruption by orders of magnitude.

                      Are you going to work instead of planted and confiscated? If so, what is stopping you from starting right now?
                      Quote: passing
                      And why are these financial pads? It’s not a secret to anyone that not everything comes from them to suppliers.

                      Are you talking about the Criminal Code? Well, let's say they will not be. For example, in our house, half of the apartments owe rents. The UK has the resource to cover these debts to suppliers and to continue supplying the home. But the residents themselves do not have such opportunities. They just turn off, and the whole conversation. The houses will fall apart.
                      In the USSR, there were also UK. You don't seem to understand what you're talking about.
                      Quote: passing
                      This is the main thing that needs to be united in order to remove the bourgeoisie, and not boast of small victories in this corrupt state. I respect China more and more, this is an example for our future power

                      No one brags. I say that the president is doing everything in his power. And the local forum only scolded, but they themselves do nothing.
                      You will not remove bourgeois until you yourself give up capital. For the homeless and you, as a homeowner, a capitalist.
                      There can be no half measures in this matter. Are you ready to give up ownership of housing and land?
                      1. passing
                        passing 9 December 2017 23: 04 New
                        +2
                        Are you going to work instead of planted and confiscated? If so, what is stopping you from starting right now?

                        you see how far formed, for example, the judiciary! for comparison, so earlier the layman talked about traffic cops
                        Are you talking about the Criminal Code?
                        yes about Criminal Code and the management company takes debts,
                        The UK has the resource to cover these debts to suppliers and to continue supplying the home.
                        she does not have a resource to cover debts !!!! lie in another place! I think it will be right to remove the management companies !!
                        They just turn off, and the whole conversation.
                        So they do it, it happens apartment by apartment, or you don’t know?
                        You will not remove bourgeois until you yourself give up capital. For the homeless and you, as a homeowner, a capitalist.

                        Let me remind you again about China !!
                        Or do you work in a management company? no, you are the director! AND?
                    2. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 42 New
                      0
                      Quote: passing
                      you see how far formed, for example, the judiciary! for comparison, so earlier the layman talked about traffic cops

                      You spoke about officials, but then you went to the judges and traffic cops. Ek staggers you. Wonderful you, right ..
                      Quote: passing
                      yes about the criminal code and the management company takes debts,

                      Are you in yourself at all? UK, in this context, is a management company. And what about the criminal code? As a matter of fact, I did not react in any way.
                      Quote: passing
                      she does not have a resource to cover debts !!!! lie in another place! I think it will be right to remove the management companies !!

                      What are you ??! Why, then, is our house not disconnected from water, heat, sewage ?? Explain.
                      Take it away from you. You can do it. Then tell us about the results. And then on the forum, all the masters wave the saber))
                      Quote: passing
                      So they do it, it happens apartment by apartment, or you don’t know?

                      Tell us how you can turn off the water, heat and sewage system by the apartment, when they are on common risers ?? What do you use, what kind of nonsense do you write?
                      Quote: passing
                      Let me remind you again about China !!

                      This I remind you - where is the link to the report of the Communist Party of China 2017?))
                      Quote: passing
                      Or do you work in a management company? no, you are the director! AND?

                      That's right. Or I work in a management company and no, I’m director A)))
                      It is bad for you to worry. Go to sleep better.
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 10 December 2017 00: 43 New
                        +2
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                        Tell us how you can turn off the water, heat and sewage system by the apartment, when they are on common risers ??

                        And what, do you have water, heat and sewage directly from the risers? This is a new word in urban planning. Both water, gas, and sewage in the apartment are connected to the risers through branches, which are very easily blocked and on which the Criminal Code places seals. You would at least once in your apartment pay attention to such "little things." Although, you have no time.
                2. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 10 December 2017 12: 56 New
                  0
                  Quote: Alf
                  Both water, gas, and sewage in the apartment are connected to the risers through branches, which are very easily blocked and on which the Criminal Code places seals.

                  Something you have later ignition ... They did not answer the questions, but at the end they turned on. This is your tactical tactical move))
                  Have you tried to block the tap in a private room? Yes, even without a court order and without bailiffs? Do you know the extent of non-payments in the housing and communal services of Russia? Can you relate these scales to the capabilities of ships and bailiffs? Do you understand that even if there were such opportunities, and if they began to shut off completely, then there will be a riot?
                  You understand very poorly what you are talking about. You just bet. You mess up and move on to yourself, as if nothing had happened. And the rest remains to rake that such debaters have broken ...
              2. INTER
                INTER 9 December 2017 19: 13 New
                +2
                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                The question is different. You all have chosen capitalism. I say that they chose because they obey the rules of the game.
                At the same time, you want to live like under communism.

                Have we chosen capitalism? And what about the USSR population survey on the collapse of the USSR? He doesn’t say anything, not about the topic of fasting, but he never understood when, with a sore head, on ..... When did the people ask about something?
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 20: 09 New
                  0
                  Quote: INTER
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  The question is different. You all have chosen capitalism. I say that they chose because they obey the rules of the game.
                  At the same time, you want to live like under communism.

                  Have we chosen capitalism? And what about the USSR population survey on the collapse of the USSR? He doesn’t say anything, not about the topic of fasting, but he never understood when, with a sore head, on ..... When did the people ask about something?

                  What does the poll have to do with it? If, relying on the survey, everything is returned to the people, then he will pump him as much as in the 91st. Because now the people, as then, do not want to do anything themselves. Power owes him everything.
                  That's why I say that so far our citizens have not earned anything but capitalism.
              3. passing
                passing 9 December 2017 20: 05 New
                +3
                You all have chosen capitalism. I say that they chose because they obey the rules of the game.
                You are almost absolutely right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                Most do not want to understand that we live in capitalism !!! And gdp henchman of capitalism. And in that direction he leads the country. And he defends the interests, especially of the capitalists. Unfortunately this is a fact, successors, heirs, etc. of this government will only aggravate the financial condition of the majority of the population of our country
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 20: 12 New
                  0
                  Quote: passing
                  You all have chosen capitalism. I say that they chose because they obey the rules of the game.
                  You are almost absolutely right !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
                  Most do not want to understand that we live in capitalism !!! And gdp henchman of capitalism. And in that direction he leads the country. And he defends the interests, especially of the capitalists. Unfortunately this is a fact, successors, heirs, etc. of this government will only aggravate the financial condition of the majority of the population of our country

                  I'm right not almost, but absolutely))
                  Putin proceeds from realities, and not from his own or yours. If you, citizens, recognize capitalism, then it builds a state on the basis of capitalism.
                  So what does he need to smash his head against the wall and build socialism when citizens grabbed private property and loans with a stranglehold and don’t want to do anything?
                  Does what it can in the reality you created in the 91st.
                  1. passing
                    passing 9 December 2017 22: 31 New
                    +2
                    I'm right not almost, but absolutely))
                    Confident !!!
                    And who said that we or many people in the Russian Federation recognize capitalism?
                    What can he break his head against the wall and build socialism when citizens grabbed private property with a dead grip

                    There is such a country, China is called !! very good example !!!!
                    Just before you look like an idiot and start an argument. read the China party com report for 2017
                    1. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 06 New
                      0
                      Quote: passing
                      And who said that we or many people in the Russian Federation recognize capitalism?

                      Do you recognize private ownership of housing? To the ground? On the means of production?
                      You acknowledge. So you recognize capitalism.
                      Quote: passing
                      There is such a country, China is called !! very good example !!!!

                      What do you know about China?))) Have you been there, at least? There a long time ago from the Communist Party one name remained. This is the first.
                      And the second one. China is economically strong only because it is developing low-cost production of simple or low-quality goods. They purchase any high-end products for demanding applications in Europe and America. In general, I greatly respect and support their desire to rally the nation around the ideas of Marxism and make friends with the ideas of capitalism, but alas, this is a utopia. They cannot create a strong and independent state. And their people are not comrades to each other. Your example is unsuccessful.
                      It is better to look like an idiot in the eyes of another idiot than to be an idiot in reality. So that we both understand that you are not the other, I ask you to explain where I could get acquainted with the Chinese Communist Party report for 2017 in Russian or English, and I also ask you to inform me that you were so impressed with this report.
                      1. passing
                        passing 9 December 2017 23: 28 New
                        +1
                        Any high-end product for critical applications they purchase in Europe and America.
                        first jamb!
                        They cannot create a strong and independent state. And their people are not comrades to each other.
                        probably this is why sanctions are imposed on us, but they are feared!
                        Look for the report of Comrade Xi Jinping. After it will be nice to chat
                    2. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 49 New
                      0
                      Quote: passing
                      probably this is why sanctions are imposed on us, but they are feared!
                      Look for the report of Comrade Xi Jinping. After it will be nice to chat

                      They do not go into geopolitics. That’s why.
                      You yourself refer to the report, and look for it yourself.
                      Why don't you respect the Chinese comrade - write with a small letter?
                      You will be pleased to talk with your wife)) Good night to you.
          2. Saburov
            Saburov 8 December 2017 23: 55 New
            +7
            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            Ah, what a cheap agitation. Why are you working so sloppy? Exactly the same thing was said about the Communists. And now too. Eternal song, how to equate power and lawlessness)) And completely unfounded allegations.


            You need to learn to distinguish agitation from stating facts!

            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            It would be better if you talked about what is good and what is bad. There is no specificity in your words.


            Really?
            Quote: Saburov
            The key rate at which the Central Bank lends to banks is 9%. This is fucking! (In all developed cap. Countries, no more than 1.5 - 2% so that business and the economy can develop) But the bank also winds up the same amount on its loans. And he pays 10% to investors for using their funds, and he offers the same money to borrowers at the rate of 25%. Why is the Russian budget in the budget of Russia 1.5 percent, and the bureaucratic apparatus 7 percent? And the police 11 percent? Why is fuel and lubricants more expensive for our citizens than they sell it abroad? Why do our state-owned energy companies sell electricity domestically at a higher price than on the foreign market? Why is there money in the church, but no money to open a new institute or school? Why does our Sberbank give its citizens mortgage loans in 12-16 percent, and in "malicious" Poland or the Czech Republic under 5-6 percent? Why are huge amounts of money pouring into zero projects that are already failing at the development stage? Let the authorities explain to the people how the state was going to substitute if it doesn’t produce a damn and there are no capacities and nothing has been created for this, no conditions, no production facilities, no specialists? And our Reserve Fund of the Russian Federation is stored in US government bonds ... strange.


            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            I can only say that Putin in domestic politics has tightened control over officials and business, removed business from the shadows, and consolidated capable work forces.


            Whom did you bring out? Who pulled up? Increased petrooligarchy income? Control over which officials? Serdyukov, Vasilyev, Adam, all the bureaucratic periphery and a couple of hundred smeared offspring of bureaucrats, judges and deputies applaud your proof! Do you even believe in what you say? You look at the criminal cases against officials in the Chelyabinsk or Rostov region ... all innocent and all on probation! And money was withdrawn to offshore and withdrawn! Have you heard what Mr. Shuvalov said? "There will be no deoffshorization! Money from offshore companies will hurt the Russian economy!" And the list of backbone companies, in respect of which forced deoffshorization was supposed, includes 199 public and private legal entities. This included the largest enterprises, banks, retail chains, central media and other companies, which together provide more than 60% of national GDP. These are Gazprom, Rosneft, Russian Railways, Norilsk Nickel, Transneft, RIA Novosti, Channel One, Russian Post, AFK Sistema and so on. If we add to this list those offshore companies that are not included in the list of backbone companies, it is easy to notice that almost the entire Russian economy, with the exception of grandmothers selling seeds in the market, is tied to offshore companies. Stop talking nonsense!

            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            But it is bad that he has to rely on the power of the oligarchs in the absence of national industry, etc. I believe that this is temporary.


            He relies on the oligarchs, and they are on him ... the law of nature! If our entire system is from bottom to top a solid corruption scheme ... who built this scheme for us over the years? Department of State or Aliens? What a naive you are!

            Quote: osoboye_mneniye
            About foreign policy know-how. We have someone to be friends with and there is someone to fight outside. And so far we are friends with many more than we are fighting. This is undoubtedly a plus of foreign policy. We lose sight of important issues. This is a minus. But everything will work out, I'm sure.


            You see what’s the matter, foreign policy should be beneficial and beneficial for the state! A good foreign policy should open prospects for trade, the economy and the development of relations with other countries. And with us everything is exactly the opposite and only simple people suffer from this policy, not bureaucrats and power, but simple Russian People! And here we butt but naked ... climbed! Wars win when you have a reliable rear and have a mobilization resource! And when there is neither one nor the other, it is either suicide or idiocy and wrecking!

            PS In general, it’s enough to go outside, look at the roads, the huckster, the poor pensioners, the loans at the banks, the prices of fat officials and priests, the collapsing infrastructure of the housing and communal services, the bending industry, the complete incompetence and corruption during all echelons of power, for scolding and fooling the people that goes through our media, for cheap salaries from teachers, engineers and scientists, for education, for the state clericalization of society for the complete absence of social benefits and protection from the people, etc., etc. , other. The authorities are holding the people for the acting and acting, while we are doing our best to justify this trust. Someone with a clever head seemed to realize that the Russian sucker is not a European sucker. And nevertheless it bites liberal values ​​badly. But on the sovereign-patriotic - with all our pleasure! Do not have any illusions.
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 11: 42 New
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              Quote: Saburov
              You need to learn to distinguish agitation from stating facts!

              I re-read your opus. The facts you did not state. You just have a listing of the headlines from the yellow press (mail.ru and company). Facts are when you study the issue (whom and why you planted and released, for example), and when you are able to accurately indicate the reason for a decision made in the state.
              You also mainly refer to a comparison of economic indicators with countries.
              You kind of know how much banks should wind up. You are comparing it with capital countries, but you inadvertently miss that Russia is not Germany. Russia has vast territories, many subsidized regions, an order of magnitude more developed space, energy, agricultural, and military branches. If you want to live in a great country, you must understand that the principles of Swiss development will not suit us.
              But in the question, how many churches should we have (whether they are amiss) and kindergartens, schools, you somehow quickly forget about comparisons with kapstans.
              You cite your "facts" very selectively. That is, do the manipulation.
              Quote: Saburov
              Control over which officials?

              For example, I, with the help of laws passed by Putin, and with the help of state supervision, without courts, even managed to force communal services to return resources to the apartment building, as well as to force the developer to adjust the construction documentation. It was also possible for the state customer to force the correction of illegal purchase requirements.
              What did you do? What are you trying to do, where does Putin bother you?
              Quote: Saburov
              And money was withdrawn to offshore and withdrawn! Have you heard what Mr. Shuvalov said? "There will be no deoffshorization! Offshore money will hurt the Russian economy!" And the list of backbone companies, in respect of which forced deoffshorization was supposed, totals 199 state and private legal entities. This included the largest enterprises, banks, retail chains, central media and other companies, which together provide more than 60% of national GDP. These are Gazprom, Rosneft, Russian Railways, Norilsk Nickel, Transneft, RIA Novosti, Channel One, Russian Post, AFK Sistema, and so on.

              Ha! What did you want, actually? Do you have a summer house and an apartment? If someone puts an eye on your property, will you protect it?
              Here they are, everything that you yourself put into pens in the 91st, they are trying to protect. By the way, Putin is trying to return this to Russia, but his attempts are ridiculous, since the entire population of Russia is ardent owners. Or should he allow property for individuals, and forbid legal entities?
              Do you yourself understand what you want?
              Quote: Saburov
              He relies on the oligarchs, and they are on him ... the law of nature! If our entire system is from bottom to top a solid corruption scheme ... who built this scheme for us over the years? Department of State or Aliens? What a naive you are!

              Who built? This is what we built, citizens of Russia. You go pay bribes too. And on the road to the uncle to the inspector, and the doctor in the hospital, and at work, but what about?
              And translate arrows on Putin. He tells you - live by the law, do not steal. And you, ah-ah-ah.
              And who else is naive here?
              Quote: Saburov
              And with us everything is exactly the opposite and only simple people suffer from this policy, not bureaucrats and power, but simple Russian People! And here we butt but naked ... climbed! Wars win when you have a reliable rear and have a mobilization resource! And when there is neither one nor the other, it is either suicide or idiocy and wrecking!

              Following your logic, in the Great Patriotic War it was necessary not to bother - to wait for the rear and the resource to appear. I understand that the comparison is not entirely successful. But if Russia does not control the adjacent territories, then it will never see either rear or mobilization resources. They will simply impose Russia around the borders with hostile regimes and arrange a blockade. Are you calling for this?
              Putin is scooping up the consequences of the 91 year. He has no other choice.
              Quote: Saburov
              In general, it’s enough to go outside, look at the roads, the huckster, the poor pensioners, the loans at the banks, the prices at the shops, the fat officials and priests, the collapsing infrastructure of the housing and communal services, the bending industry, the complete incompetence and corruption in all at the echelons of power, for scolding and fooling the people that goes according to our mass media, for cheap salaries from teachers, engineers and scientists, for education, for the state clericalization of society for the complete absence of social benefits and protection from the people and so on and so forth.

              This is agitation. I take to the streets in different cities of Russia, and I don’t see the devastation. Where exactly do you see her? What are the cities, streets where you are.
              About scumbling in the media ... so who pulls your ears by the house-2 to watch? I have no TV at home as a class. There will be no demand, there will be no supply. You yourself cultivate chernukha in the media.
              About the complete absence of social benefits. Tell us what you personally lack. Give a comparison with capstrany. Even now, in Russia, social programs are an order of magnitude better than in countries. I compared. And you?
              About ZP teachers and doctors can cry as much as you want. Are you a teacher? Or a doctor?
              As I watch, teachers and doctors do not complain, but simply work. Yes, they do not fatten. But do not give up. Do not moan.
              But you, not working as a teacher or a doctor, are outraged by the whole Internet! Strange, right?
              1. Saburov
                Saburov 9 December 2017 14: 37 New
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                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                You are comparing it with capital countries, but you inadvertently miss that Russia is not Germany. Russia has vast territories, many subsidized regions, an order of magnitude more developed space, energy, agricultural, and military branches. If you want to live in a great country, you must understand that the principles of Swiss development will not suit us.


                You compare the level of profitability and resources at the beginning. Germany has a hundred times more technological enterprises than ours and ten thousand times less natural resources. And our vast territories are uninhabited and empty, there is nothing to service except gas pipelines and power lines. And the proceeds from the sale of the public domain go into completely different pockets. And the people get a cookie with butter instead of wealth. Our "developed" space and military industries remained at the level of the end of the 80's. All that you are "laced" on TV about new products such as "Caliber" or "Armat" are all from the old Soviet zashashniks of the research institute. Russia is not capable of producing high-tech products now, for this it was necessary to feed and train engineers, technologists, skilled workers, scientists for at least 20 years ... where was it? The principles of development are the same everywhere, the paths are different. The principle of the state is the care of its citizens, their well-being, security, the development of science, industry, economy, etc. etc. And your fantasies become an obsession that has nothing to do with reality. In principle, like our government ...

                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                For example, I, with the help of laws passed by Putin, and with the help of state supervision, without courts, even managed to force communal services to return resources to an apartment building


                What a score! Now, if the housing and communal services warmed up the bureaucrats' paw, what the hell would you do. You try to get the bureaucrats and the state to return the money to the thrown interest-holders from unreliable developers or housing and communal services? Who issues licenses to them? The state and it should be responsible for such shoals, or make a normal law so that this does not happen again ... but we have the same thing every year. These are my grandmother’s tales ... and I, yes we ... but now everything will be ... to nothing.

                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Here they are, everything that you yourself put into the pens in 91, they are trying to protect.


                In 91, a young man, I took trains with armored vehicles from ZGV.

                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Following your logic, in the Great Patriotic War it was necessary not to bother - to wait for the rear and the resource to appear.


                In the Second World War, the USSR just had a rear and a resource and smart people! Learn history from archives, not from Svanidze.

                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                Putin is scooping up the consequences of the 91 year. He has no other choice.


                I would say it does not rake, but continues ... for so many years, Russia has not built more than one large plant or enterprises that were built in the USSR during the five-year period. What did they build? Vostochny Cosmodrome (which does not function), sports facilities in Sochi (where an ordinary Russian citizen cannot travel for financial reasons), shopping centers, chapels, the Yeltsin Center, Mannerheim and Kolchak honorboards, monuments to tsars and more. What is raking? Each unbroken pile has a last name, first name, middle name and position. “But we have not the 37 year,” as Garant said ...

                Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                I take to the streets in different cities of Russia, and I don’t see the devastation. Where exactly do you see her? What are the cities, streets where you are.


                In any city, get off the main street ... your eyes will open immediately.
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                  1. Saburov
                    Saburov 9 December 2017 14: 52 New
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                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    About scumbling in the media ... so who pulls your ears to the house-2 to watch? I have no TV at home as a class. There will be no demand, there will be no supply.


                    The boy in the Bundestag is an example! With what can I congratulate the Minister of Education of the Russian Federation!

                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    Even now in Russia, social programs are an order of magnitude better than in countries. I compared. And you?


                    "I compared" ... it's "convincing"! As I understand it, my friend, that you were no further than Russia!

                    When will WWII veterans in Germany receive a pension from 2's to 8 thousand of euros against our 20-30 thousand rubles? In general, I think that it’s disastrous on the part of our government to give cars and apartments to hockey players and bow-footed footballers, and to pay a penny to a veteran who climbed under bullets and under caterpillars for the country ... the truth is completely different. Or a net unemployment benefit from 250 euros, not counting surcharges from regions and the city + social organizations and trade unions.

                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    As I watch, teachers and doctors do not complain, but simply work. Yes, they do not fatten. But do not give up. Do not moan.


                    Because they have nowhere to go, they can also throw them out of work.

                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    But you, not working as a teacher or a doctor, are outraged by the whole Internet! Strange, right?


                    I have already worked my way and served. But I feel it’s useless to explain to you. Get smart before it's too late! You will excuse me, but S.I.Z.O.P.O.F.E.S.I.I.I. begins with a simple, with the collapse of the processes of thinking and emotional reactions.
                    1. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 20: 02 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Saburov
                      The boy in the Bundestag is an example! With what can I congratulate the Minister of Education of the Russian Federation!

                      And here is the issue we are discussing of scanting through the media? And the boy is an ordinary provocation. They were enough during the Union. What did one worthless one cost ... In general, you have milk again.
                      Quote: Saburov
                      "I compared" ... it's "convincing"! As I understand it, my friend, that you were no further than Russia!

                      Your understanding is sucked out of the finger. I hope from your own.
                      And I asked you - did you compare? What are the results?

                      Quote: Saburov
                      When WWII veterans in Germany receive a pension of 2 to 8 thousand euros against our 20-30 thousand rubles? In general, I think that it is disastrous on the part of our government to give cars and apartments to hockey players and bow-footed footballers, and to pay a penny to a veteran who climbed under bullets and under tracks for the country ...

                      2 thousand euros in Germany is money, do you think ?? Oh, they made fun))) Now we can see which of the two of us did not go further than Russia)
                      Second question. If athletes defend the interests of the country, then it is not necessary to pay. I understand you. And if the military defends the interests of the country, is it necessary? Is that what you yourself decided?
                      Are you sure that protecting the country's interests in the sport of the highest achievements for health is less expensive?
                      And here is what else guards me in you. You are trying to measure the debt given to the Motherland to measure pensions and benefits. Somehow it’s not in combat.
                      And so in general I know the military. He is building a retired house and receives expensive treatment from the state. Which, for 2000 euros per month, you won’t even get from us. I'm not talking about all sorts of germanium ...
                      Quote: Saburov
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                      As I watch, teachers and doctors do not complain, but simply work. Yes, they do not fatten. But do not give up. Do not moan.
                      Because they have nowhere to go, they can also throw them out of work.

                      Shame ... What is a professional debt, a duty to the motherland, you probably do not know. Yes, they do not work out of fear, but because they know that it IS NECESSARY! Yes, you turned out to be small.
                      Quote: Saburov
                      I have already worked my way and served.

                      And glory to the Almighty that they worked. We still lacked such an employee.
                      True patriots work until the end of their days. You want to beat the bucks, and let others work for you. I immediately noticed this.
                      Quote: Saburov
                      You will excuse me, but S.I.Z.O.P.O.F.E.S.I.I.I. begins with a simple, with the decay of the processes of thinking and emotional reactions.

                      The decay of processes and emotional reactions I have already noticed. I sympathize with you very much. I hope that the disease has not visited you yet ..
                      But do not touch the Armor. He died today ... It is not necessary for the pursuit of personal goals to disturb the memory of a person, and even on the day of his death.
                      You are not a good person.
                2. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 19: 44 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Saburov
                  You compare the level of profitability and resources at the beginning. Germany has a hundred times more technological enterprises than ours and ten thousand times less natural resources.

                  Strange ... and the most high-tech products in our country are much cheaper .. Why, explain))
                  Quote: Saburov
                  And the proceeds from the sale of the public domain go into completely different pockets. And the people get a cookie with butter instead of wealth.

                  These are unfounded allegations. Resources are sold by the state, and the state receives the income from their sale in a share in which it owns and is able to develop the extraction of resources. All about the people you care for, all agitate)) Not only you 91th. You still want blood.

                  Quote: Saburov
                  All that you are "laced" on TV about new products such as "Caliber" or "Armat" are all from the old Soviet zashashniks of the research institute. Russia is not capable of producing high-tech products now, for this it was necessary to feed and train engineers, technologists, skilled workers, scientists for at least 20 years ... where was it?

                  You have porridge in your head. Everyone understands that we are currently leaving for Soviet developments. And that the last 20 years there is no scientific and technical base, so this will give an effect not now, but in 20 years. You can’t wait to give out the wishful thinking. I am not satisfied with the state of science and production. But what exactly do you offer? Do you understand that you yourself gave everything to the bourgeois in the 91st? Who do you think should take everything from them, and to whom to give? Really to the muddlers who yelled everything? You can’t solve the problem with uncle Zu-style propaganda alone.
                  So these are your fantasies, not mine.
                  Quote: Saburov
                  You're lucky! Now, if the housing and communal services warmed up the bureaucrats' paw, what the hell would you do.

                  Ah ha ha))) Here you amused me! In our case, utilities have a very powerful bureaucrats protection. The husband of the director of the Criminal Code is sitting in the legislative assembly. The fact of the matter is that we had to get to Moscow, but we got our way.
                  What have you achieved? And where did you see the Criminal Code without a bureaucratic roof ?? It seems that you don’t even understand what you’re trying to talk about.
                  Quote: Saburov
                  In 91, a young man, I took trains with armored vehicles from ZGV.

                  Happy for you. Why didn’t the armored vehicle fulfill its function? Why did personnel fraternize with the rebels? I know why. Therefore, I do not put the blame. And you know. So they would be silent ...
                  Quote: Saburov
                  In the Second World War, the USSR just had a rear and a resource and smart people! Learn history from archives, not from Svanidze.

                  What are you saying ?? What is the rear? The plants barely had time to evacuate. Even the army was not completely rebuilt, and the traitors could not be completely cleared by the start of the war. Fortunately, Stalin did not sleep before the war, at least they managed to do something. It would be even more fun. I do not see a fundamental difference in the situation then and now.
                  Well, about smart people, you are insulting your fellow citizens in vain. Yes, it’s hard for them now. But even then it was hard.
                  Quote: Saburov
                  I would say it does not rake, but continues ... for so many years, Russia has not built more than one large plant or enterprises that were built in the USSR during the five-year period.

                  Stunned ... Do you even understand that all the enterprises in the USSR at that time were built by the people? And people did not work for money, but for the idea. Our state is not popular already. There, they’ve clicked on to complete the Zenith Arena. And what, who responded there?
                  You should at least read what they built and how, and not be dishonored by your erudition here ..
                  Quote: Saburov
                  In any city, get off the main street ... your eyes will open immediately.

                  More specifically, please. You cannot see from your words where you personally saw this devastation, and what exactly, in your opinion, is this devastation itself.
                  You wag a lot. If you do not feel within yourself the strength to respond essentially, then better keep silent. So you will show yourself better than you will unfoundedly persuade you to try, exposing yourself to your engagement or ignorance.
              2. turbris
                turbris 9 December 2017 16: 04 New
                +3
                It’s absolutely useless if you enter into a polemic with them, if he doesn’t set out on the basis of a received note, then he will just persistently put all his troubles not on himself, but on anyone, it’s so convenient for him. He is determined to expose, he will never notice changes for the better, he will turn away and find a crap entrance - he thus asserts himself. And he is stubbornly looking for flaws on all the news, in any message he will find what is bad, unfortunately there are a lot of such morally fallen people on the site - do not be surprised.
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 17 New
                  +2
                  I look at this question a little differently. My task is to show others the inconsistency of his position. And not at all for the purpose of self-affirmation. Inexperienced people on the forum believe everything. They must be seen to be led by the nose. That this individual has problems and hidden tasks is well understood by me. It is a pity to spend time on such, but what to do ... If others weren’t too lazy to answer, such shots would be drowned. I am sure that there are more of us than them.
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 9 December 2017 23: 26 New
                    +4
                    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                    . My task is to show others the inconsistency of his position.

                    Interestingly what Complete the task? belay


                    This is a factory ...
                    1. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 54 New
                      +2
                      You are hard to understand. This is not a factory. Perhaps it was a factory. But now it is the ruins of what is unknown.
                      But I saw enough of the ruins of factories. Especially those that the state gave in the 91st to the hands of workers' collectives. He told them - take it, develop it, make money, you really wanted it.
                      And the teams left everything and left for the cottage, they gave away stocks for a bottle of vodka.
                      Did you want to hear this from me?
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 10 December 2017 00: 23 New
                        +3
                        Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                        They must be seen to be led by the nose.

                        I showed you exactly the plant that was destroyed, namely, under Putin. At this plant, rockets for the Grad and Hurricane systems -122mm and 220mm, as well as ............. .......
                        25 thousand people worked.
                        Now you understand?
                    2. osoboye_mneniye
                      osoboye_mneniye 10 December 2017 13: 02 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Stroporez
                      I showed you exactly the plant that was destroyed, namely, under Putin. At this plant, rockets for the Grad and Hurricane systems -122mm and 220mm, as well as ............. .......
                      25 thousand people worked.
                      Now you understand?

                      No, it’s not clear. What kind of plant are you talking about? Grads and hurricanes have been released a lot in places, and they are still being released. Please indicate the city and name of the company. As well as information that Russia is experiencing a deficit in the city and hurricane.
                      And why do not you answer my question? I repeat, since you are so absent-minded:
                      “But I also saw enough of the ruins of factories. Especially those that the state gave in the hands of workers in the 91st. I told them - take it, develop it, make money, you wanted it that way.”
                      And the teams left everything and left for the cottage, they gave away stocks for a bottle of vodka.
                      Did you want to hear that from me? "
                      1. turbris
                        turbris 10 December 2017 13: 21 New
                        +1
                        There was a Union, there were a lot of missiles for Grad and Hurricanes, then Russia was left out of it all - so much was no longer needed and the plant was closed. Other factories turned out to be more effective, you would have paced around the district and ruined the ruins, if the production is not effective - it is closed, if the local authorities cannot bring anything to this city in return, it means they work poorly. If there is no work, then people leave and this settlement is getting worse - this is the logic of life and you will not surprise anyone with these pictures.
            2. passing
              passing 9 December 2017 20: 20 New
              +2
              Saburov

              Nifiga, of course, the bouquets, this employer, provided them with stable work for 18 years.
              1. osoboye_mneniye
                osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 26 New
                +2
                Well this Photoshop sucks. There is a light border around their heads. Disgrace is simple)))
                In general, I think that for Photoshop and fake agitation it is necessary to ban immediately.
                1. Saburov
                  Saburov 10 December 2017 17: 52 New
                  +3
                  Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                  Well this Photoshop sucks. There is a light border around their heads. Disgrace is simple)))
                  In general, I think that for Photoshop and fake agitation it is necessary to ban immediately.


                  I already told you that it’s useless to explain to you ... they say to those who constantly read the mantra ... This is a Tricky Plan ... This is a Tricky Plan ... This is a Tricky Plan ... comes well-being and pride in the state, though in the form of madness and hallucinations.

                  Is this also visible photoshop?







                  PS You urgently need to be treated a young man ... since your patriotism has grown into and ... hm. Which is what our government and the media are actively seeking.
                  1. osoboye_mneniye
                    osoboye_mneniye 10 December 2017 20: 17 New
                    0
                    Ah bad. You have not answered any of my questions above. Now we switched to the pictures. How lovely. Well, in the pictures you are strong))
                    Then you have a new question. Do you think Putin should have declared Yeltsin, who politely took power, an enemy of the people and refuse to open the center? And then he, apparently, had to admit that he did not take power from Yeltsin by his own free will, and with a bare ass without the support of the real masters of the country (oligarchs) survive until the next election, get elected and pull the country? You are a comedian, my friend))) Now you understand where you are and where reality is?
                    You are wooden to the waist (not in the sense of Pinocchio, but in the sense of a valuable breed). It’s better to be a young patriot (I’m not a patriot, but for you, I will be a patriot), work, make mistakes, learn from mistakes and move forward than to remain an old mrazmatik, incapable of anything other than whining.
                    What exactly do you offer? What actions do you call for in your outpourings?
                    Until we hear the answer to these questions, we understand that it makes no sense to talk with you. For you can’t do anything but whine and don’t want to do anything for the normal life of the Russian population.
                    1. Saburov
                      Saburov 10 December 2017 22: 03 New
                      +1
                      Quote: osoboye_mneniye
                      Ah bad. You have not answered any of my questions above. Now we switched to the pictures.


                      It is useless to explain to you ... facts are shown and provided to you, but you turn your nose and try to justify everything ... which suggests the inferiority complex (according to Freud).

                      People’s salaries are cheap? Yes!
                      Power and bureaucrats steal? Yes!
                      All Russian stabilization and reserve funds are stored in the United States? Yes!
                      Is agriculture and industry in decline? Yes!
                      Social injustice in Russia? Yes!
                      Fooling people and lying through state-owned media? Yes!
                      Continued destruction of education and science? Yes!
                      Overpriced everything from cars, gasoline to phones and boots? Yes!
                      Lack of justice from courts to administrations? Yes!
                      The withdrawal of almost all Russian folk money in offshore? Yes!
                      Low living standards with huge revenues from the sale of raw materials? Yes!
                      Lack of social protection and benefits for citizens? Yes!
                      The complete incompetence of power? Yes!
                      Bad foreign and domestic economic policies? Yes!
                      Financial slavery in the form of heavy loans for citizens and businesses? Yes!
                      Insecurity? Yes!
                      Clericalization of secular society? Yes!

                      And tell me, do the authorities don’t know everything about it? Or is it the Tricky Plan again?

                      PS As Grandfather Marx wrote, capitalism can be of two types: colonial (when foreign countries are robbed for the well-being of the United States, Great Britain, France) and feudal (when strong competitors haven’t entered the internationally divided market for a long time, it’s Russia who is robbing its people).

                      Soon it will be like in the Russian Empire ... the largest income from the sale of vodka. And the standard of living and education is the same.
                      1. osoboye_mneniye
                        osoboye_mneniye 10 December 2017 23: 35 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Saburov
                        It’s useless for you to explain ... the facts show and provide you

                        These are not facts, but your speculations, because:
                        Quote: Saburov
                        People’s salaries are cheap? Yes!

                        NO!
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Power and bureaucrats steal? Yes!

                        As an everywhere.
                        Quote: Saburov
                        All Russian stabilization and reserve funds are stored in the United States? Yes!

                        NOT! 44% in USD, 42% in EURO, 10% in GBP. Your suggestions?
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Is agriculture and industry in decline? Yes!

                        NOT! Russian exports are estimated at 24,5 mln tons of wheat, Canada - 22,5 mln tons, the USA - 21,09 mln tons. In total, grain exports from 1 July 2015 to 8 June 2016% increased by 12,3% to 33,04 mln tons, follows from Russian Ministry of Agriculture.
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Social injustice in Russia? Yes!

                        NO!
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Fooling people and lying through state-owned media? Yes!

                        Somewhere in other developed capitalist countries this, of course, is not)))
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Continued destruction of education and science? Yes!

                        Rather, the inability to find resources for their development. Duc save! You sentenced them in the 91st — now you are in your hands!
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Overpriced everything from cars, gasoline to phones and boots? Yes!

                        And you do not buy for expensive, then no one will raise prices and will not. This is capitalism, which you yourself have chosen))) Read Marx.
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Lack of justice from courts to administrations? Yes!

                        Have you personally encountered? Share it. It is rather corruption - the sister of capitalism, which you yourself, again, have chosen.
                        Quote: Saburov
                        The withdrawal of almost all Russian folk money in offshore? Yes!

                        NOT! And by the way, what is "Russian folk money"? We like the state has not been popular for a long time .. You messed up something again))
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Low living standards with huge revenues from the sale of raw materials? Yes!

                        NOT! The price of oil is that with the USSR, that with Russia at about the same level. That is, the revenues are essentially the same. You just complained that the Russians are forced to buy expensive goods. I always believed that when you can afford to buy expensive goods, the standard of living is not low. You constantly contradict yourself. Did this disease still visit you ??
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Lack of social protection and benefits for citizens? Yes!

                        NOT! Social benefits are still an order of magnitude better in Russia. Free to Sha Higher Education, Medicine, Sports? Forget it))) More or less, things are from decent decent capstranas I know in Switzerland and Finland. Well, let's turn off arms, space, atom and development of territories, surrender our territories to our enemies, and live with an excellent social network? Yes, you are just a storyteller!
                        Quote: Saburov
                        The complete incompetence of power? Yes!

                        Did you decide that yourself? Then why are you not in the Kremlin yet, but here on the forum you fool around?
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Bad foreign and domestic economic policies? Yes!

                        Did you decide that yourself? Then why are you not in the Kremlin yet, but here on the forum you fool around?
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Financial slavery in the form of heavy loans for citizens and businesses? Yes!

                        And why do citizens climb into bondage for the sake of a car-apartment-cottage-Egypt-iPhone? Who makes them ?? Tell us about heavy loans to business. And I laugh with you - a retired businessman))
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Insecurity? Yes!

                        And where is safer now than in Russia? Everywhere they explode, crush and poison. You yourself in the 91st Iron Curtain abolished. Now why whine?
                        Quote: Saburov
                        Clericalization of secular society? Yes!

                        I can’t argue here. There is one. What do you offer people in return for God's faith? The ideals of communism, free peaceful labor, etc. you yourself abolished in '91. Ali forgot?

                        You are not happy. Come in the fall for a re-examination!
          3. passing
            passing 9 December 2017 19: 44 New
            +3
            Ah, what a cheap agitation.

            Well, yes. Therefore, at 19 44 you were supported by only 1 person. And on koment which you slander supports more than 30. do not choke on poison
            1. osoboye_mneniye
              osoboye_mneniye 9 December 2017 23: 58 New
              +2
              Quote: passing
              Well, yes. Therefore, at 19 44 you were supported by only 1 person. And on koment which you slander supports more than 30. do not choke on poison

              Your technologies are known to us. You get paid for the ratings. You are not taught to work ...
              Thanks for the wish. If you don’t palm off on me, then I won’t choke on them))
              1. turbris
                turbris 10 December 2017 13: 27 New
                +1
                And they make a rating for themselves, as I understand it, there are no more than 6 core people, the rest join in stupidly, but apparently pay for 5 or more.
                1. osoboye_mneniye
                  osoboye_mneniye 10 December 2017 16: 47 New
                  0
                  Yes, I carefully monitor their behavior. It is necessary to somehow organize a reaction. But I'm not sophisticated in forum technology. So far I am only collecting material and trying to orient myself.
                  So in terms of the style and content of their posts, it’s clear that they’re either stupid or they earn money.
        4. AUL
          AUL 8 December 2017 21: 35 New
          +6
          According to a survey by VTsIOM, 54% and 58,8% of respondents, respectively, gave a positive assessment of the work of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and the cabinet ministers. The approval ratings of the State Duma and the Federation Council, measured once a month, after a decline in October rose slightly in November (51,2% and 56,3%, respectively).
          After this masterpiece, you don’t need to read further!
        5. Seraphimamur
          Seraphimamur 9 December 2017 05: 40 New
          +2
          Saburov I already almost cried from the cry of your soul! Have you cried like that for free?
          1. turbris
            turbris 9 December 2017 16: 07 New
            +1
            Come on, you (the most important) read, tears pour.
      3. the most important
        the most important 8 December 2017 14: 28 New
        27
        Quote: Shura Perm
        He simply doesn’t have any alternatives ...

        How lovely!!! Let's immediately declare him God !!! Why do we need elections? Here are just a tiny little catch ... there is a God in every religion !! What will we do with the rest of the Gods? 82% support ??? 82% support a constant increase in gas prices? 82% support beggarly pensions, the lack of a normally paid job, the fact that half of the country's population are poor and poor, an increase in housing and communal services tariffs, millions of migrants with claims in the cities, taiga felling and forest transportation by echelons daily to China, that Russia and athletes are deprived of rewards and flag corruption, when tens of billions are already stolen, the fact that world GDP is growing ANNUALLY by more than 3%, and Russia's GDP has been falling or stagnating for almost 10 years, is that Russia was torn to pieces and partially occupied by Bandera , the fact that Russians are killed on a daily basis in the Donbass, and Russia does not even give them a passport, for killed mechanical engineering, civil aviation, shipbuilding, livestock, for reducing the budget for education and medicine, for making an appointment with a doctor in a few weeks prior to admission, because the regions have poor budgets and are unable to maintain and develop anything, because practically nothing is produced in the country, because they are annually exported from the country under a billion dollars ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 8 December 2017 17: 49 New
          12
          Quote: the most important
          How lovely!!! Let's immediately declare him God !!!

          Comrade, there are many witnesses to the Kashpirovsky and Chumak sects who are ready to declare him anyone, having received a bla bla bla vaccination from litter-tv.
          Indeed, an analogy is evident with the “loading cans of water” from the zombie in the late 80s and the current constant talk shows, straight lines, messages, spells, cops, horror stories, Syria, terrorist attacks, news from the on / to the outskirts and other garbage from jelly -malah-tv.
      4. vlad_vlad
        vlad_vlad 8 December 2017 16: 09 New
        13
        Quote: Shura Perm
        He simply doesn’t have any alternatives ...


        which year you are led by the nose obeshivaya carrots in the future and urging now to tighten their belts and be patient, because after all, "the enemy is at the gates ..."

        well, to say - you are a patient people, Russians. and gullible.
    2. RASKAT
      RASKAT 8 December 2017 11: 14 New
      +6
      And again, 40% percent will go to the polls.
      6 years of stability and relative calm, is it interesting that our permanent leader is preparing a replacement for himself? As for me, it would be time for me.
    3. Dashout
      Dashout 8 December 2017 11: 14 New
      +4
      Yes .. Probably, like last time, Putin will not go to debate. Why do they need him - just feed the trolls ...
      1. mark_rod
        mark_rod 8 December 2017 11: 20 New
        43
        Putin therefore will not go to debate, but because it will be difficult for him to answer many questions regarding domestic politics and the declining living standards of the people.
        1. Muvka
          Muvka 8 December 2017 11: 45 New
          +4
          But nothing that he 2 once a year takes questions live? There for some reason he is not afraid to answer.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 8 December 2017 11: 52 New
            +5
            How teenagers-navaltyats will run, how questions will be called. What then should Putin do? Have to leave immediately.
            1. turbris
              turbris 9 December 2017 16: 09 New
              0
              For teenagers-brainwashed there will not be enough questions to ask him, and uncle with a note may not be in time on time.
          2. captain
            captain 8 December 2017 12: 01 New
            +5
            Quote: Muvka
            But nothing that he 2 once a year takes questions live? There for some reason he is not afraid to answer.

            This is not him, this is his double. For the majority of those who comment on the VO, Putin is worse than Gorbachev, Yeltsin .... and even Hitler.
            1. Sergey-svs
              Sergey-svs 8 December 2017 12: 46 New
              +3
              Quote: captain
              For the bulk of those who comment on VO, Putin is worse than Gorbachev, Yeltsin .... and even Hitler.

              Yes, you just look at what the "bloody tyrant" Vlad has done! belay In the "holy 90s," when Putin came to power: any student for change in the canteen could buy for himself - a whole handful of bitcoins! Yes, yes a handful! fellow And now, most Russians cannot afford even -1 bitcoin! request They brought the country !!! yes ... Already tears on the eyes! crying
              laughing laughing laughing
            2. ando_bor
              ando_bor 8 December 2017 12: 54 New
              +6
              Quote: captain
              For the bulk of those who comment on VO, Putin is worse than Gorbachev, Yeltsin .... and even Hitler.

              At VO, as elsewhere on the network, a hired state-owned democracy is present in large numbers (at the commentator level, Ukrainians work humbly, they are very cheap), the information component is an important front of the hybrid war, and now there is a powerful attack on Russia, on all fronts, so don't relax.
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 8 December 2017 17: 45 New
                11
                And I am from Russia and also criticize Putin. Tell me, where should I go for State Department money?
                1. not main
                  not main 8 December 2017 23: 35 New
                  +2
                  Quote: andrej-shironov
                  And I am from Russia and also criticize Putin. Tell me, where should I go for State Department money?

                  Stupid question. In the State Department of course.
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 09: 19 New
                    +1
                    Address sister, address!
                    1. turbris
                      turbris 9 December 2017 16: 14 New
                      +1
                      Criticize yourself calmly, but criticize individual citizens, not the country as a whole. And you do not worry that your criticism is very consonant with the same State Department? Something like a lot of coincidences, it turns out you work for free, it's not strange, no?
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 17: 12 New
                        +2
                        Turbris, as always, you read what is not! Where have I criticized the country as a whole? I criticize just individuals, not excluding the guarantor. It bothers me that my criticism is in tune with the State Department! This means that the State Department knows our power no worse, or even better than us! This means that you don’t even need to invent any failures, the authorities have already done this, failed everything that is possible. That's what bothers me! With such power, no State Department is needed, as you do not understand! You are again being bought for an external threat, but the threat is inside! And believe me, I'm on this list the smallest threat.
          3. 210ox
            210ox 8 December 2017 12: 41 New
            19
            Do you know how these questions are asked? No? And I know. In front of the camera they warn and choose questions, say what is possible and what is not ..
            Quote: Muvka
            But nothing that he 2 once a year takes questions live? There for some reason he is not afraid to answer.
            1. turbris
              turbris 9 December 2017 16: 19 New
              0
              Have you attended the press conference? Asked a question? Or "one woman said"? At all press conferences they warn when they give a microphone, but if you listened to those who asked questions, it is unlikely that anyone would have chosen such questions, they would have been immediately removed from work.
          4. Alf
            Alf 8 December 2017 22: 12 New
            +4
            Quote: Muvka
            But nothing that he 2 once a year takes questions live? There for some reason he is not afraid to answer.

            And who said that on these TV bridges SUCH questions are being asked? Recalls the "dialogues on the street with the people" of the humpback.
          5. passing
            passing 9 December 2017 20: 32 New
            +1

            But nothing that he 2 once a year takes questions live? There for some reason he is not afraid to answer.
            AND? In 2012, he set a bunch of tasks for officials. Speaking without answering your words is easy
      2. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 8 December 2017 11: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: Dashout
        Yes .. Probably, like last time, Putin will not go to debate. Why do they need him - just feed the trolls ...
        Of course, as in the year before last and the year before last - he never went to them
    4. Finches
      Finches 8 December 2017 11: 18 New
      +4
      Let Putin be! I wouldn’t change him at all ... I would call him Secretary General or Monarch - what the hell difference and let him sit while there is strength and his head is bright!
      1. Chertt
        Chertt 8 December 2017 11: 29 New
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        I would call the Secretary General or the monarch - what the hell difference

        Let's call Cthulhu. Then all the bulkers will come running, Cthulhu is cooler yes
        1. Finches
          Finches 8 December 2017 11: 41 New
          +1
          Alex, "Are you a Komsomol member? This is not our method. Where is humanism?" - a large part of a healthy society will not be appreciated by this creative - father-king or general secretary, father of peoples, it is somehow more dear ... laughing hi
          1. Chertt
            Chertt 8 December 2017 11: 52 New
            +1
            Quote: Finches
            most of a healthy society will not appreciate this creative - the father-king or the secretary general, the father of peoples, it is somehow more dear.

            But honestly winked . But seriously, the question of the transfer of power. And I think that Vl.Vl. on this occasion, the head hurts the most
            1. passing
              passing 9 December 2017 20: 37 New
              0
              But seriously, the question of the transfer of power. And I think that Vl.Vl. on this occasion, the head hurts the most

              still hurts! replacing the main one that will leave the subheadings in place does not replace patriotic aligarchs. What to do, what to do ???
          2. Sergey Cojocari
            Sergey Cojocari 8 December 2017 15: 58 New
            +9
            Can call him Moses? Simple, but tasteful. He, like, was going to lead the people in the desert for 40 years until the last one who remembers the USSR dies.
      2. RussianRoulette
        RussianRoulette 8 December 2017 11: 35 New
        +1
        Right. Not so much now! Yes, and the candidates were crushed. Some kind of infantile, stupid, conceited and weak on the back and front ramp Russia does not need! With all the nuances, grievances and groans, at this time there is no alternative to the current one!
      3. Alf
        Alf 8 December 2017 22: 14 New
        +4
        Quote: Finches
        and the head is bright!

        There are big doubts about this.
    5. siberalt
      siberalt 8 December 2017 11: 43 New
      17
      The election campaign has begun. 82% is good, and 182% is even better. Give who more!lol
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 8 December 2017 12: 55 New
        +2
        150% satisfied?
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 8 December 2017 13: 23 New
          +7
          VTsIOM: more than 82% of Russians approve of Putin’s activities
          not even funny already ... in Gazprom, the "Russians" were questioned ...
        2. the most important
          the most important 8 December 2017 16: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: Overlock
          150% satisfied?

          not enough ... 100500% !!!! this is just right !!!
      2. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 8 December 2017 17: 48 New
        +1
        Dear Sibiralt! I propose to cheat about the elections. I think that the turnout will be from 35-45%, 42-45% of those who come will vote for Putin. What do you think?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 8 December 2017 18: 47 New
          +6
          Quote: andrej-shironov
          I propose to cheat about the elections. I think that the turnout will be from 35-45%, 42-45% of those who come will vote for Putin.

          I apologize for getting in hi
          But it is thought that a lot of water will leak before March. First of all, from January 1, 2018 fines and motor third-party liability insurance for motorists will increase, for long-distance driving a full rate on the “Plato” is introduced.
          The tax burden on transport, real estate and land (dachas) will also increase. Fuel (gasoline, solarium), heating oil and gas will rise in price. A dead raccoon will most likely jump.
          In other words, if receipts come after the election, then the rest of the population will see before.
          For our government, there is another factor is the price of oil !!! When prices fall below 35 raccoons, there simply may not be an election.
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 09: 22 New
            0
            I agree, there are many unaccounted factors. However, what are your numbers?
            1. turbris
              turbris 9 December 2017 16: 23 New
              0
              What numbers! Didn’t you quite recently argued that there can be no fair elections in Russia, there’s a complete hoax around, no one voted for Putin, but he won? So why do you need the numbers, I can write your comment after the election now, do you want?
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 17: 13 New
                +1
                I want, write, you are our knowledgeable.
                1. turbris
                  turbris 10 December 2017 22: 29 New
                  0
                  Good! The first point there will be that the elections were not fair, that numerous irregularities were revealed (which then of course will not be confirmed), then it will be sure that you do not believe the voter turnout data, that these data are falsified. Then a howl will be launched that the West will not recognize these elections and that the opinion of the same foreign observers should not be paid attention, etc. on the thumb, I’m just too lazy to list further.
                  1. andrej-shironov
                    andrej-shironov 11 December 2017 07: 20 New
                    +1
                    smile It’s strange. Is this also written in your training manual? Miserable of course, although I honestly never use such arguments. These are just the arguments of your level. My facts are of a higher level.
                    1. turbris
                      turbris 11 December 2017 10: 51 New
                      0
                      Well, it’s better not to talk about the level of your facts, as far as training manuals are concerned - you probably know more about them. I just predicted the behavior of the opposition after the election, let's see which one was right. stop
                      1. andrej-shironov
                        andrej-shironov 11 December 2017 14: 59 New
                        +1
                        By the way, the facts: Sechin never showed up in court wink Can you comment on this fact?
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 8 December 2017 11: 13 New
    22
    VTsIOM: more than 82% of Russians approve of Putin’s activities


    Yesterday, 75 percent of young people approved of GDP ...
    today in this article reached 82 percent of citizens ... rates are rising ...
    who will put more what
    The campaign process was in full swing ... we are beginning to refine in percentages and the electorate. smile

    Bread and circuses ... urgently ... people need something to do so as not to ask unpleasant questions.
    I’m interested in looking at the verbal fights of such giants of the Moscow party as SOBCHAK ... a lot of interesting phrases can be heard unlike MUTKO for example ... that's where the opponent is so the opponent ... cunning, insidious, smart and not forgiving mistakes.
    1. Finches
      Finches 8 December 2017 11: 20 New
      +5
      I will tell you frankly - among my friends and acquaintances, most of whom are military personnel or military pensioners 90% of GDP, so everything is logical, it seems to me! hi
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 8 December 2017 11: 26 New
        +6
        I will tell you frankly - among my friends and acquaintances, most of whom are military personnel or military pensioners, 90% of GDP


        For the solution of sensitive issues with the ARMED FORCES OF RUSSIA, of course, a big THANKS ...
        the result is visible in SYRIA and CRIMEA.
        In all other respects, there are only questions ... questions and questions.
        Economics, education, medicine, civil industry, science ... these issues require the intervention of a state husband ... now these are topical issues in our society.
        1. Finches
          Finches 8 December 2017 11: 30 New
          +8
          Here I agree with you - there are enough problems! And I myself think that GDP itself needs to be more closely paid attention to life inside the country - some people just need to be driven out of the Government by a filthy broom, but I repeat again - GDP is the same hostage to the system and not everything in it authorities unfortunately!
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 8 December 2017 11: 48 New
            24
            Quote: Finches
            GDP is the same hostage to the system and not everything is in its power, unfortunately!

            Why are you going to again choose a "hostage" as a "hostage"?
            1. Finches
              Finches 8 December 2017 11: 56 New
              +2
              Stroporez, don’t start the old song about the main thing, there’s nothing to offer you, so I don’t see a reason to cross - I, my family members, relatives, friends, acquaintances ... in the range from 19 to 80 years old support Putin's candidacy, my students, cadets, of which there are enough, in percentage terms, 60-70% fluctuate for the Supreme ..., so what can we talk about then? Youth, and knowingly - without any administrative resources, but quite infantile or something, but I teach in another institution, there were boys and girls for Navalny actively, but not more than 2%!
            2. basmach
              basmach 8 December 2017 12: 06 New
              22
              Valera, hi. Don’t ask Zyablintsev questions, his wording “GDP is the same hostage to the system and not everyone is in his power, unfortunately!” Is an indicator of verbiage. Just let him and others like him answer, and who created this system and who supports it. Putin, as he himself said, is just a hired manager who does not have any real power — the zits chairman of the Golden Calf. The whole question is not in it, but when and to whom this clan of rulers decides to change it. And the elections do not play any role, sheer profanity. And Zyablintsev, is he just a character from the army joke of 90's. "Why the colonels were canceled hats. Yes, because it was considered unprofitable to remove the skin from one .... and put on another ....". .
              1. Finches
                Finches 8 December 2017 12: 35 New
                +1
                Basmach, hi I listed who I know, and I know their opinion - that you, together with Valera, can offer besides your eternal whining - that everything was gone ??
                1. basmach
                  basmach 8 December 2017 14: 37 New
                  14
                  Yes, your listing is a set of empty sounds. After all, I can also write friends, acquaintances, relatives, even one Ph.D. in the same way (I like to argue with him). The way you love and can pour water, I know. Kursachs and your colleagues are not recognized otherwise, no naivety is needed. Yes, and I never whine that everything was lost. Destiny whine-et yours and people like you. But I only state the facts, draw conclusions and act in accordance with them. I already wrote, you basically do not understand that the system does not arise on its own - it is created for certain purposes and maintained in working condition, as long as there is a need for it.
                  1. Finches
                    Finches 8 December 2017 15: 13 New
                    +1
                    Once again I ask - in Russian - you understand Russian - WHAT YOU CAN OFFER! And I’m not a chatterbox — but you — a whiner and follow me — I bring my point of view and am ready to defend it, and I put in the minds of students with cadets what Motherland is, one-man command and discipline, and you umatilized from the army, with the rank of captain, breaking down and fearing difficulties, they say someone offended you there from the bosses, and now I'm making a fool of myself ...
                    I apologize for the harsh words! hi
                    1. minomoto
                      minomoto 8 December 2017 17: 08 New
                      +1
                      Standard liberals sir, they can offer nothing. They see only what they want to see, but uncomfortable questions are simply ignored.
          2. siberalt
            siberalt 8 December 2017 12: 04 New
            +9
            Clear. The king is good, and the boyars are bad.
            Then without a guilt in any way. belay
            1. Finches
              Finches 8 December 2017 12: 06 New
              0
              And it happens - System! I think that you were not born yesterday — look into history ... but no one has canceled the role of personality! hi
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 8 December 2017 12: 33 New
        +4
        Not just the military. In general, due to demographics, half of the voters in Russia are pensioners. Therefore, such a high percentage for Putin.
        1. Finches
          Finches 8 December 2017 12: 35 New
          +1
          Israel, by demography, you see, the republic of SKID? laughing
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 8 December 2017 13: 59 New
            +5
            Exactly. Continuous children and youth. 28% are children under 14 years old.
            In the middle family: 3,12 children from Jews, 3,17 from Muslim Arabs.
            1. Finches
              Finches 8 December 2017 15: 16 New
              0
              Come in large numbers because ... laughing
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 8 December 2017 13: 25 New
          13
          Quote: voyaka uh
          Not just the military. In general, due to demographics, half of the voters in Russia are pensioners. Therefore, such a high percentage for Putin.

          yah ??? with such a pension? belay I’m only hearing from them ...
      3. Overlock
        Overlock 8 December 2017 12: 58 New
        14
        in the circle of my friends and acquaintances, most of whom are doctors, for Putin% 20. The rest are against. Friends and acquaintances with higher education. So everything is logical
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 8 December 2017 13: 27 New
          12
          Quote: Overlock
          in the circle of my friends and acquaintances, most of whom are doctors, for Putin% 20. The rest are against. Friends and acquaintances with higher education. So everything is logical

          at our enterprise, no one will vote for him, for Zyugan, in protest.
          1. Finches
            Finches 8 December 2017 13: 31 New
            0
            For whom??? Then vote for Sobchak - to protest, so protest .... laughing
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 8 December 2017 13: 59 New
              15
              Quote: Finches
              For whom??? Then vote for Sobchak - to protest, so protest .... laughing

              well, the king and the boyars were unlucky with the people ... the lousy people got caught ... they want to eat, they need to treat him, teach ... why? the people have already deprived of their nationality, and strangled them with taxes, and gave pennies a penny ... but he is still alive ... am
            2. Overlock
              Overlock 8 December 2017 14: 45 New
              +4
              There are options: do not come to the polls, ruin the ballot, vote for anyone other than Putin. Everyone chooses for himself
              1. Dashout
                Dashout 8 December 2017 17: 12 New
                +4
                How many of you Ksyushin’s friends have divorced ... For anyone, if only for Putin ... Come on for the State Department right away!
                1. Overlock
                  Overlock 8 December 2017 18: 48 New
                  +4
                  and you, my friend LIBERAL!

          2. passing
            passing 9 December 2017 20: 46 New
            +1
            for Zyugan, in protest.

            maybe the Communist Party does not go awry, will nominate another candidate?
        2. siberalt
          siberalt 8 December 2017 13: 48 New
          +4
          Now the main question is not only how many percent will vote for the new old, but what will the turnout be. And then we’ll see the amount of real support for the elected president, both in units and as a percentage of the total number of potential voters. hi
          1. Finches
            Finches 8 December 2017 14: 43 New
            0
            I haven’t been going to the polls since 1996, not the fact that I’ll go now, but I’m for the GDP, so this is not a special indicator! hi
            1. turbris
              turbris 9 December 2017 16: 29 New
              0
              Well, judging by the comments on the site, it will be necessary to go, otherwise they will definitely choose some Ksenia, by the way all my friends will also vote for Putin, at least those I asked.
          2. Overlock
            Overlock 8 December 2017 14: 49 New
            +4
            on the 12th year:
            voters -109 people
            arrived - 71 people (701%)
            for Putin - 45 602 075 people (63,60%) of those who came
          3. AUL
            AUL 8 December 2017 21: 52 New
            +3
            Quote: siberalt
            Now the main question is not only how many percent will vote for the new old, but what will the turnout be. And then we’ll see the amount of real support for the elected president, both in units and as a percentage of the total number of potential voters. hi
            It is unlikely that you will see the real picture. No CEC will tell you this. And VTsIOM will sing songs to you ...
            1. turbris
              turbris 9 December 2017 16: 34 New
              0
              Well, of course, when they know in advance that they will lose, then everyone is guilty, and first of all the CEC. If you do not believe in the electoral system of Russia, then of course do not go to the polls, why? So many do, they just continue their whining, both before and after the election. But if you did not use your constitutional right, then you are not entitled to criticize anyone from the authorities, but you did not choose them?
              1. andrej-shironov
                andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 17: 15 New
                +1
                Yes, we don’t believe the CEC, but the authorities! And if criticism is whining for you, then congratulations, you are in a kennel for dogs.
      4. ando_bor
        ando_bor 8 December 2017 12: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        I will tell you frankly - among my friends and acquaintances, most of whom are military personnel or military pensioners 90% of GDP, so everything is logical, it seems to me! hi

        Yes, on average 82% and it turns out, my same observations.
      5. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 8 December 2017 17: 50 New
        +7
        Dear Zyablintsev! But after all, the people of Russia do not consist only of the Rosgvardeytsy, state employees and the military!
        1. turbris
          turbris 9 December 2017 16: 37 New
          +1
          Did Zyablintsev write to you for all the people of Russia? Why juggle? This is only you from us all speaking!
          1. andrej-shironov
            andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 17: 17 New
            0
            If you do not understand the meaning of my question, then it’s better not to pop into the dialogue with Zyablintsev
    2. Mestny
      Mestny 8 December 2017 11: 55 New
      0
      Well, then yes, everyone else can lead the process of agitation and build CP. And Putin, no, no way.
    3. Dead duck
      Dead duck 8 December 2017 12: 01 New
      12
      Quote: The same Lech
      Today, in this article, 82 percent of citizens have reached ... rates are rising.

      So, if Medvedev was given a "positive assessment of the work of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and the Cabinet of Ministers 54% and 58,8%"
      Then there is no less than 80-ty.
  3. Loess
    Loess 8 December 2017 11: 16 New
    +2
    The presidential approval rate throughout the year is at a level higher than 80%, according to the latest figures (November 27 - December 3), it is 82,4%
    It's nice to know that 82% of the country's population thinks the same way I do)
    1. Dead duck
      Dead duck 8 December 2017 12: 03 New
      11
      Quote: Less
      It’s nice to know that 82% of the country's population

      this is among the respondents (as it were), and not the country's population.
      akin to 60 with an extra percent who voted for ... it just doesn’t take into account how many people voted at all .... otherwise it will turn out 25-30% ...
      doubtful majority
      1. Loess
        Loess 8 December 2017 12: 23 New
        +2
        .... otherwise it will turn out 25-30% ...
        Well, yes, of course, you calculated it more accurately, and conducted the polls, and calculated the statistics ... Everything is stupid in the same place, after all, you did not consult anyone to ask how to count ...
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 8 December 2017 13: 01 New
          +3
          Vladimir Zhirinovsky: “Lies are these numbers. All the numbers are false ”,“ These are yours, Kremlin polls ”
        2. Dead duck
          Dead duck 8 December 2017 14: 09 New
          +7
          Quote: Less
          Well, yes, of course, you more accurately calculated, and the polls conducted, and the statistics calculated

          Judging by what was written, the specialist is still ... especially in science fiction and decision for all.
          As well as hanging biochallets.
          If there is a problem with mathematics, then no one is to blame (which is so difficult to subtract and compare).
          1. Loess
            Loess 8 December 2017 14: 25 New
            0
            What are you talking about now? The fact that you didn’t interview anyone, didn’t count anything and got this result?
            Quote: Deadush
            this is among the respondents (as it were), and not the country's population.
            akin to 60 with an extra percent who voted for ... it just doesn’t take into account how many people voted at all .... otherwise it will turn out 25-30% ...
            doubtful majority
            Really fantastic and the solution is for everyone.
          2. turbris
            turbris 9 December 2017 16: 40 New
            0
            Well, of course, you are a distinguished mathematician, you only operate on verified numbers and facts, and then you get half-ceiling-finger and percentages.
            1. andrej-shironov
              andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 17: 17 New
              +1
              Exactly the same mathematician as you.
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 8 December 2017 14: 39 New
          +4
          Quote: Less
          Well, yes, of course, you more accurately calculated, and the polls conducted, and the statistics calculated ...

          What is there to count? At the last election, the turnout was 63,34%. For airborne voted according to 63,6%.
          So consider how many% of the total number of voters was for the air defense, respectively, the rest are against!
          A calculator to help you wink
          1. Loess
            Loess 8 December 2017 14: 46 New
            0
            Honestly, I didn’t go to the last elections) Firstly, I was sure that my help to the Guarantor was unnecessary, and secondly, it was too far from the polling station. But I’ll go to these principles laughing laughing hi
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 8 December 2017 14: 53 New
              +6
              Quote: Less
              Firstly, I was sure that my help to the Guarantor was unnecessary

              He has enough assistants, at. for sure wassat
              Quote: Less
              But I’ll go to these principles

              Well so it is your right of the citizen. And if I go, it’s also fundamentally against citizen Putin.V.V.
              1. turbris
                turbris 9 December 2017 16: 43 New
                0
                Who would be against election success! How do you put emoticons, teach me, something doesn’t work out for me.
        4. andrej-shironov
          andrej-shironov 8 December 2017 17: 52 New
          +1
          Just like you, everything is precisely calculated wink
    2. Alf
      Alf 8 December 2017 22: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: Less
      It's nice to know that 82% of the country's population thinks the same way I do)

      In the framework of the All-Russian initiative polls, VTsIOM-Sputnik 600 respondents are interviewed every day in at least 80 regions of the Russian Federation. The results of the study show the average values ​​for seven days of the survey, for the week the sample size is 4200 respondents.

      82% of 4200 people per Putin. And the remaining 150 million?
    3. the most important
      the most important 8 December 2017 22: 29 New
      +3
      Quote: Less
      It's nice to know that 82% of the country's population thinks the same way I do)

      Or maybe he doesn’t think ??? to think this is also a strain for many ...
  4. signifera
    signifera 8 December 2017 11: 20 New
    21
    It is strange that not all 100% wrote, but it's probably too early, 150% will be closer to the point)))
    It’s also interesting how they choose who to interview, they lie about the regions, in the center of Moscow only such a rating can be gathered. Walk through the villages ... or beyond the Moscow Ring Road at least.
  5. atos_kin
    atos_kin 8 December 2017 11: 23 New
    13
    VO, and weakly ask about the "approvals" of their "writers" (crossed out) readers?
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 8 December 2017 11: 28 New
      +1
      And you check the "weak" Angel.
    2. Nasrat
      Nasrat 8 December 2017 11: 30 New
      18
      GlavRedy VO will not allow to conduct a survey ... they may close the site. No one wants to risk it. hi

      According to the article - I am surprised that only 82% are still .... the truth and the race has just begun ... by March it will be over 90% bully
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2017 11: 25 New
    +3
    at the same time, 0,2% of respondents approve of Sobchak's activity
    This figure includes the bred House-2 and those who watch it. So the statistics are correct.
  7. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 8 December 2017 11: 31 New
    19
    VTsIOM-office is very respected laughing .. and most importantly completely independent lol 54% of those who approve of Medvedev’s approving good The circus left and the clowns at VTsIOM got a job ... Give 200% of those who approve of Putin's activity ... bully
  8. Piramidon
    Piramidon 8 December 2017 11: 35 New
    +4
    First written:
    More than 82% of Russian citizens positively evaluate the work of Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    A little lower:
    Putin is a stable leader in the ranking of trust in politicians, VTsIOM notes, at the end of November his figure was 53%

    So all the same 82% or 53%? Does the author again have problems with math (or with the keyboard)?
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 8 December 2017 13: 04 New
      +2
      Yes, just confused, what figure to put, suddenly missed?
  9. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 8 December 2017 11: 36 New
    13
    Quote: RASKAT
    6 more years

    Take it higher - the "slave" is going to "row in the galleys" until 2030. In general, 82% is something small, but it was 146%. Something went wrong?
    1. Mestny
      Mestny 8 December 2017 12: 02 New
      0
      All fighters for the truth know that the President is not really doing anything - riding on cool cars with a flashing light, speaking on TV and using a new iPhone for free. He also had pefka and chips. And he himself lies from the screen to fighters for the truth that works.
      All fighters for the truth also know that as they write on the network, the way it really is.
      It's so cool - any nonsense and game run and scream at all angles. It unites the younger generation.
    2. Piramidon
      Piramidon 8 December 2017 14: 24 New
      0
      Quote: 16112014nk
      Take it higher - the "slave" is going to "row in the galleys" until 2030. In general, 82% is something small, but it was 146%. Something went wrong?

      Have you bought a car for a long time? Paying by the piece?
      1. 16112014nk
        16112014nk 8 December 2017 17: 48 New
        +9
        It’s better to criticize the government so that it moves and does something, than to lick it.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 8 December 2017 19: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: 16112014nk
          It’s better to criticize the government so that it moves and does something, than to lick it.

          No need to confuse criticism with general questions. Why are you defecating here about 2030 and 146%?
  10. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 11: 37 New
    28
    Quote: Shura Perm
    but for me, foreign policy is at 5 plus, domestic at C grade

    ---------------------------
    After his mumble about the 2018 Olympics, his foreign policy is also in my three for me. If he had announced a boycott of the Olympics and protested the IOC, removed Mutko-Zhuko-Kolobko-Medvedko, then his rating would have broken through all the ceilings. Well, so neutral too, so to speak.
    PS And it’s very ugly and mean-spirited to start the election campaign with children's allowances. In Putin's way, it turned out that young mothers didn't have to pay before. And it turns out that it is possible to pay a beggarly salary in the province, which is difficult to feed another person, your child, it is difficult to provide for yourself.
    1. q75agent
      q75agent 8 December 2017 11: 53 New
      16
      after Crimea there was such pride for the country, and then less and less .... I’ll go to Zyuganich to vote yes
  11. den3080
    den3080 8 December 2017 11: 39 New
    +1
    I’d like to see the dog’s electronic rating.
    if there is none, then what is ... you can electronic anal
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 8 December 2017 11: 52 New
      +2
      I’d like to see the dog’s electronic rating.
      if there is none, then what is ... you can electronic anal

      Pornography can be dragged into her arms like a drug smile

      Although there is no arguing it is sometimes extremely interesting to look at somersaults of famous figures with girls of easy virtue ... hehe he who are similar there ...
      Remember the scandal with a man similar to the attorney general.
      Can competitors and offended rivals merge into the Internet and such.
  12. ShM05
    ShM05 8 December 2017 11: 55 New
    14
    The survey was probably conducted in the government, in the State Duma, and on Rublevka, then it is clear why such a percentage of support
  13. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 8 December 2017 12: 02 New
    11
    Quote: Altona
    can you pay a beggarly salary

    The fact is that Putin does not even know his own salary. He himself said this about this in one of his speeches. How can he know about other salaries? For example, the salaries of Sechin and Miller are generally trade secrets. And if you slightly open?
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 8 December 2017 12: 03 New
    +9
    Vote, elections ... a waste of time and money in this case.
    I don’t feel like for such power, it’s just no one against, it turns out - AND WHY -.
  15. Lena Petrova
    Lena Petrova 8 December 2017 12: 03 New
    14
    It would be very correct if all applicants for such a post, simultaneously in the studio, live, answered (on a polygraph) to a few simple questions. I think such a short transmission, in addition to breaking all the ratings, very quickly showed who is who.
    Questions for children:
    “Have you ever taken bribes?”
    - Do you take part in illegal enrichment schemes?
    - Are you loyal to the anti-Russian actions of the West?
    - Do you have savings abroad?
    - Your condition is more than 10 million dollars? More than a billion?
    - Do you really want to act in the interests of the Russian Federation?
  16. dvvv
    dvvv 8 December 2017 12: 04 New
    +3
    we’ll skip the king’s rating, but DAM ... the most ridiculous chairman of the government, probably if you put the question and calculate it correctly, he will win like a clown. There is hope that for the next term he will not be the prime minister and, perhaps, hell will pull himself up and organize something in the economy, and for this a strong sensible prime minister is needed, because in economy the prezik does not understand and does not know how.
  17. cedar
    cedar 8 December 2017 12: 06 New
    +2
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    VTsIOM-office is very respected laughing .. and most importantly completely independent lol 54% of those who approve of Medvedev’s approving good The circus left and the clowns at VTsIOM got a job ...Give 200% approving the activities of Putin ... what really trifle bully


    At least 300% ....
    Until 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50% of the people come to the referendum on the Constitution, the President will have power. Be it even the same LEKHA, even the Shura of Perm, at least hto, even Putin himself. It is not given to the President to make decisions and ask for their implementation according to the LAW. Everything else abuse of power and a criminal offense, at least impeachment, maximum lattice. That is how many will come to the referendum and how many will vote for the new Constitution, so much will support the same Lyokha, Zyabliceva, shorter than the one we elect as President.
    Everything else is the psychotechnical techniques of PR specialists, VTsIOMs and other specialists in the “elections” ...
  18. Gardamir
    Gardamir 8 December 2017 12: 10 New
    10
    People of Putin: Medvedev, Shuvalov, Gref, Nabiullina. This is Putin’s team. So all 82 percent support Putin’s team?
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  20. faiver
    faiver 8 December 2017 12: 15 New
    +9
    okay at Darkest 82% (although it’s clear that bullshit), well, at least they wouldn’t have a shame with the State Duma - where did they get 51% of confidence from? these parasites have a real level of trust lower than that of dogs and bulk ... hi

    all is well beautiful marquise, all is well as never ....
  21. Greenwood
    Greenwood 8 December 2017 12: 32 New
    +7
    Something a little somehow. It was 146%. However, now let's get 246%. One must grow somehow.
  22. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 8 December 2017 12: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: cedar
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    VTsIOM-office is very respected laughing .. and most importantly completely independent lol 54% of those who approve of Medvedev’s approving good The circus left and the clowns at VTsIOM got a job ...Give 200% approving the activities of Putin ... what really trifle bully


    At least 300% ....
    Until 10%, 20%, 30%, 40%, 50% of the people come to the referendum on the Constitution, the President will have power. Be it even the same LEKHA, even the Shura of Perm, at least hto, even Putin himself. It is not given to the President to make decisions and ask for their implementation according to the LAW. Everything else abuse of power and a criminal offense, at least impeachment, maximum lattice. That is how many will come to the referendum and how many will vote for the new Constitution, so much will support the same Lyokha, Zyabliceva, shorter than the one we elect as President.
    Everything else is the psychotechnical techniques of PR specialists, VTsIOMs and other specialists in the “elections” ...

    Suspicious of wanting to get into the Constitution. Under the guise, for example, they can remove an article that says that our state is social. A guarantor has not been a guarantor of it for a long time. Accordingly, claims for social in bulk.
  23. Jack O'Neill
    Jack O'Neill 8 December 2017 12: 50 New
    11
    People - vote for me!
    I promise: to make the Internet in Russia free, to make education and medicine more accessible and of higher quality! I promise to send deputies to work in the mines in the mines (hello Kobzon)!
    Jack O'Neill - 2018! The future of Russia!
  24. Overlock
    Overlock 8 December 2017 13: 05 New
    +6
    Quote: Mestny
    It's so cool - any nonsense and game run and scream at all angles. It unites the younger generation.

    go through markets, shops, wait in lines of clinics and understand how cool it is and how it unites everyone
  25. Anyone
    Anyone 8 December 2017 13: 08 New
    +7
    VTsIOM: 54% support Medvedev's activities

    ??? That is, more than every second adult citizen of Russia is satisfied with the work of pulling Medvedev? It seems that we are with VTsIOM in some different countries))
  26. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 13: 15 New
    +6
    Quote: 16112014nk
    The fact is that Putin does not even know his own salary.

    ------------------------
    The fact is that Putin may not know his salary. The president is on full state support. It has all the necessary transport-car, helicopter, passenger plane board number 1. It has at its disposal around the clock security. Provided with food, clothing should be provided to him by the protocol service, depending on the nature of the meeting, meeting or rest.
    According to your pictures of famous figures, you definitely exposed them, Putin is their protege, their guard and their peace of mind.
  27. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 13: 17 New
    +5
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Suspicious of wanting to get into the Constitution. Under the guise, for example, they can remove an article that says that our state is social. A guarantor has not been a guarantor of it for a long time. Accordingly, claims for social in bulk.

    -----------------------------
    They want to rewrite the constitution completely and throw out articles that were still the rudiment of the Soviet system. Only total bourgeois exploitation, only hardcore!
  28. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 13: 18 New
    +8
    Quote: Anyone
    VTsIOM: 54% support Medvedev's activities

    ??? That is, more than every second adult citizen of Russia is satisfied with the work of pulling Medvedev? It seems that we are with VTsIOM in some different countries))

    ------------------------------
    I support only the shooting of Medvedev and further on the list.
  29. pussamussa
    pussamussa 8 December 2017 13: 53 New
    +4
    really 20-30 percent no more
  30. Stas
    Stas 8 December 2017 14: 32 New
    14
    Return the minuses, I do not even want to comment on this impudent lie delivered by VTsIOM. In the election, either against everyone, or for Grudinin I will vote. For Putin from acquaintances few will go to vote. Only bragging, and as a result of failures in medicine and in sports and in the economy and in national and card policies, the promotion of Russophobes and Bandera of all stripes. It began to resemble the times of Yeltsin - partners all around.
    Russia will never defeat an external enemy, but because of internal traitors and enemies, both the Russian Empire and the USSR were destroyed. Toothless politics leads to the same result, and it will be deplorable for all of us.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon 9 December 2017 08: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Stas
      In the election, either against everyone, or for Grudinin I will vote.

      Has Grudinin already put forward his candidacy? I have not yet seen him on the candidate lists.
  31. SOF
    SOF 8 December 2017 15: 02 New
    +1
    laughing laughing laughing
    ... WHAT'S VERY MUCH VOICE!
    But yesterday, on the topic, about Browder, where the "respected" foreigner rattled the same thing for some reason, almost nobody was there .... Well, no one wanted to support him with his accusatory word ....
  32. Overlock
    Overlock 8 December 2017 15: 06 New
    12
    why argue about numbers and preferences? in any case, GDP will win. The point is not in him, but in his weapons. The country will receive Medvedev and Co., Sechin and the Ulyukaevs, Zakharchenko and Dvorkovich, etc. etc. The country will continue the unchanged liberal course of the economy and all that we have now to a greater extent. More importantly, what will happen at the end of the presidency! In Russia, from love to hate is one step. Half a step \ quarter step (cross out unnecessary) GDP has already been made. Rather, his associates did. For me it’s Vasilyeva. This was the starting point of my final decision. Further, what is happening in the country. If someone wants to assure here that everything in the country is excellent, it is his personal business. He is either blind, or a master who lives beautifully and far from people.
    Just one quote for those who believe in miracles:
    "The most expensive product in the world - this is not gas, not oil - this is the US budget deficit. The whole world needs the economic development of this country, the american economy needs to stay strong and we pay for it. Paying the highest price. " Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation A. Dvorkovich.
    1. Overlock
      Overlock 8 December 2017 15: 31 New
      +4
      and it is even possible and necessary to expel \ put these persons, all one thing will not change, because he considers the direction of the country's movement, the chosen GDP to be correct and unchanged.
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 8 December 2017 16: 38 New
        +8
        If someone does not understand what Peskov said, I translate into Russian: Putin is much more liberal than Medvedev, Gozman, Chubais, Gaidar, Novodvorskaya and Co. So think before the election
  33. NKVD
    NKVD 8 December 2017 15: 23 New
    11
    This is just the percentage of Putin’s disapproval. Wasn’t his reign a pensioner’s pocket? Didn’t his reign actually happen in the Bundestag to repent before the innocently murdered fascists? Including his merit that Vasilieva and Taburetkin walk free. Yes, there are many sins, I don’t know who the VTsIOM interviews there, maybe the same oligarchs or offspring. It’s good for them to live in Russia now.
  34. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 15: 33 New
    +2
    Quote: SOF
    But yesterday, on the topic, about Browder, where the "respected" foreigner rattled the same thing for some reason, almost nobody was there .... Well, no one wanted to support him with his accusatory word ....

    ---------------------------------
    I wrote the same thing as I am writing here. This does not mean that I support Browder. Our current state is trying to completely copy all the shortcomings of the bourgeois. Accordingly, there are all types of corruption and other shortcomings.
    PS Read my comments under that article and under this. Find 10 differences in characteristics.
  35. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 15: 36 New
    +9
    Quote: Overlock
    More importantly, what will happen at the end of the presidency! In Russia, from love to hate is one step. Half a step \ quarter step (cross out unnecessary) GDP has already been made.

    -------------------------------
    If Putin left now, leaving a more intelligent and truly patriotic person, I would not say a word of condemnation to him. And all his recent actions to humiliate our country give rise within me to a rather malicious neutrality towards him.
    1. Karabin
      Karabin 8 December 2017 18: 24 New
      14
      Quote: Altona
      And all his recent actions to humiliate our country give rise within me to a rather malicious neutrality towards him.

      I had neutrality to Putin at 12. Now only contempt. Betrayed New Russia, reaction to the downed bomber, Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, crawling on his knees in Katyn, liberalism in the economy. The last straw, his response to the actions of the IOC.
  36. pussamussa
    pussamussa 8 December 2017 16: 42 New
    11
    The real minimum pension for the country today should be about thirty thousand. And at the same time annually indexed. Whoever does this will vote for that. And all sorts of footballs, olympiads, summits, ebn centers and other multibillion-dollar nonsense.
  37. cedar
    cedar 8 December 2017 16: 43 New
    +4
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Suspicious of wanting to get into the Constitution. Under the guise, for example, they can remove an article that says that our state is social. A guarantor has not been a guarantor of it for a long time. Accordingly, claims for social in bulk.


    There are a number of articles of principle importance for the sovereignty of Russia that make us, in fact, a colony of trap, which in no way matches the declaration of the social state.
    One 75 article on the independence of the Central Bank from the authorities costs us at least a hundred billion greens a year flowing through the Central Bank over a hill. And this is a cut budget and corresponding salaries to state employees, pensions, science, culture, military-industrial complex, etc. Accordingly, the claims and not only on social programs, in bulk, but it is necessary to clearly understand the essence of all problems - the defeat in the twentieth of the Soviet Union.
    Money in this world is power. If the Central Bank with its printing press is not in the hands of the Government of the Russian Federation, then what kind of "our" power in "our" country can we talk about? And the president under this Constitution is not power at all. His authority is over the roof, and his authority is "0". Much of what he does for the country and the people on the verge of a foul, i.e. impeachment, and this is unnatural and should be eliminated in the new Constitution.
  38. andrej-shironov
    andrej-shironov 8 December 2017 17: 42 New
    +2
    Apparently I'm from the remaining adequately minded.
  39. Nemesis
    Nemesis 8 December 2017 18: 38 New
    +5
    The reality is no more than 30%, because the majority does not go to the polls at all, because they are not satisfied with the candidates allowed for elections in the Russian Federation ...
  40. Karabin
    Karabin 8 December 2017 18: 42 New
    10
    The presidential approval rate throughout the year is at a level higher than 80%, according to the latest figures (November 27 - December 3), it is 82,4%

    Vague doubts torment me. Especially against the background of these numbers.
    54% and 58,8% of respondents, respectively, gave a positive assessment of the work of Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev and the cabinet.

    I conducted my own mini-study on the comments at this time, suggesting that the VO audience is a slice of our society. At the moment, Putin’s approval indicator does not reach 40%.
    PS I join the proposal to conduct a survey at the VO to assess the activities of the president, government and parliament.
    1. ando_bor
      ando_bor 9 December 2017 01: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Karabin
      I conducted my own mini-study on the comments at this time,

      And how do you isolate the State Department mercenaries, or are you so naive that you do not believe in a hybrid war?
      - And the Ukrainians themselves jumped up, without enemy propaganda and cookies, against all the bad, for all the good - and now they are rich and happy ..
      1. andrej-shironov
        andrej-shironov 9 December 2017 17: 22 New
        +1
        And they, these deputies of the State Department, are being cloned! Zombies of the population are put on stream. And be sure to Ukraine as an example. This ends the training manual.
      2. Karabin
        Karabin 9 December 2017 19: 20 New
        +3
        Quote: ando_bor
        don't believe in hybrid warfare?

        I believe in hybrid wars and hybrid Putin. wink If there are Nabiulin, Gref, Chubais and other Putin’s Commissars, the State Department does not need to be spent on agents.
  41. Severok
    Severok 8 December 2017 18: 59 New
    +7
    I probably belong to those 18% who do not approve of the GDP policy. So that I approve of his work, he is obliged to disperse the entire liberal Kodla to such a mother into the expanses of the Chukchi tundra with confiscation of property; to nationalize the subsoil, the energy sector, forests and lands; bring the ruble to a gold value; restore the operation of the constitution of the USSR. This is so, for starters.
  42. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 19: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: Karabin
    I had neutrality to Putin at 12. Now only contempt. Betrayed New Russia, reaction to the downed bomber, Serdyukov with Vasilyeva, crawling on his knees in Katyn, liberalism in the economy. The last straw, his response to the actions of the IOC.

    --------------------
    I use the word "neutrality" in the most negative sense, so as not to write more radical words. Let it then be "hostile indifference."
  43. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 19: 06 New
    +3
    Quote: Severok
    I probably belong to those 18% who do not approve of the GDP policy. So that I approve of his work, he is obliged to disperse the entire liberal Kodla to such a mother into the expanses of the Chukchi tundra with confiscation of property; to nationalize the subsoil, the energy sector, forests and lands; bring the ruble to a gold value; restore the operation of the constitution of the USSR. This is so, for starters.

    ------------
    You named something that he categorically cannot do. He is set to do exactly the opposite of your words.
  44. vladimirasha
    vladimirasha 8 December 2017 19: 17 New
    +4
    VTsIOM brachet, as always.
  45. DEDPIHTO
    DEDPIHTO 9 December 2017 06: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: cedar
    Quote: DEPHIHTO
    Suspicious of wanting to get into the Constitution. Under the guise, for example, they can remove an article that says that our state is social. A guarantor has not been a guarantor of it for a long time. Accordingly, claims for social in bulk.


    There are a number of articles of principle importance for the sovereignty of Russia that make us, in fact, a colony of trap, which in no way matches the declaration of the social state.
    One 75 article on the independence of the Central Bank from the authorities costs us at least a hundred billion greens a year flowing through the Central Bank over a hill. And this is a cut budget and corresponding salaries to state employees, pensions, science, culture, military-industrial complex, etc. Accordingly, the claims and not only on social programs, in bulk, but it is necessary to clearly understand the essence of all problems - the defeat in the twentieth of the Soviet Union.
    Money in this world is power. If the Central Bank with its printing press is not in the hands of the Government of the Russian Federation, then what kind of "our" power in "our" country can we talk about? And the president under this Constitution is not power at all. His authority is over the roof, and his authority is "0". Much of what he does for the country and the people on the verge of a foul, i.e. impeachment, and this is unnatural and should be eliminated in the new Constitution.

    And who will correct the Constitution ??? Who are these honest and patriotic people living the aspirations of the people ??? Could it be that they are sitting in the State Duma ??? ... or, our Medvedev’s government will entrust editing the main document of the country ??? And then, absolute power (or almost absolute) in the hands of one person will be even worse than the atomic bomb. Fuck them !!! Capitalism, to the dump !!! All Power to the Soviets! Constitution of the USSR-YES !!! P.S. For the people, the guarantor has done so much that now we don’t know how to survive.
  46. keeper03
    keeper03 9 December 2017 06: 54 New
    +5
    Putin, why does the Minister of Education "scratch" the whole country, what is the average salary of university teachers 50 thousand?! Real sn - does not reach 25 thousand! Are you all bleached over there?!? Do not count on state employees in the elections !!! am
  47. trampoline instructor
    trampoline instructor 9 December 2017 13: 29 New
    +2
    Apparently, I am among the 17%
  48. Golovan Jack
    Golovan Jack 9 December 2017 17: 40 New
    +7
    andrej-shironov
    Not ... I just can not deny myself the pleasure !!
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    ... It just bothers me that my criticism is in tune with the State Department! This means that the State Department knows our power no worse, or even better than we

    ... well, that means exactly what you think is the same as in the State Department ...
    But that’s why you think so - it’s already interesting-e-eesno ...
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    You are again being bought for an external threat, but the threat is inside!

    ... well, or they’re buying you ... the same State Department, for example ... why not wassat
    Quote: andrej-shironov
    And believe me, I'm on this list the smallest threat.

    ... but to make excuses, citizen, you will be in the police. When you get there, naturally laughing
    1. andrej-shironov
      andrej-shironov 11 December 2017 07: 32 New
      +4
      wink Trolololo! laughing Fat, we still have to learn.
  49. Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 10 December 2017 16: 27 New
    +5
    turbris,
    I will answer you with the words of our Colleague Cat Marquis
    “it is necessary to call a spade a spade” that Russia is in no way such a “special state” with “its own way”, but an ordinary capitalist state with a single ideology - “unlimited profit”!
    1. turbris
      turbris 11 December 2017 11: 00 New
      0
      Well, who would mind? It is generally difficult to understand ideology, and yes, Russia is a capitalist state and this must be accepted, especially when you talk about social justice. But people have been living in capitalist states for a long time and basically do not live badly, they have higher salaries, pensions and material well-being, that I don’t see social riots and the desire to change something. These are the real facts. Thanks for the tip winked
  50. Saburov
    Saburov 11 December 2017 14: 19 New
    +2
    osoboye_mneniye,

    This is a respected clinic! You need to be treated, and urgently!

    Quote: Saburov
    People’s salaries are cheap? Yes!
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    NO!





    Quote: Saburov
    Power and bureaucrats steal? Yes!
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    As an everywhere.


    For an attempt to bribe an official, for example, in Australia, Canada, or even in the same USA, you will immediately be assigned a “warm” term. And I absolutely don't give a damn about everywhere! If everywhere there will be shit .. past the toilet you will also do? And make excuses?

    Quote: Saburov
    All Russian stabilization and reserve funds are stored in the United States? Yes!
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    NOT! 44% in USD, 42% in EURO, 10% in GBP. Your suggestions?


    In accordance with Articles 96.11 and 96.12 of the Budget Code of the Russian Federation, the Government of the Russian Federation decides: the Government of the Russian Federation has established the following requirements for these financial assets:

    1. the funds of the Reserve Fund may be placed in debt instruments in the form of securities of foreign states, foreign state agencies and central banks of the following countries:
    Austria; Belgium; Great Britain; Germany; Denmark; Canada; Luxembourg; Netherlands; USA;
    Finland; France; Sweden.

    3. international financial organizations, in which debt funds of the Reserve Fund may be placed, include:
    - Asian Development Bank (Asian Development Bank, ABD);
    - Development Bank under the Council of Europe (Council of Europe Development Bank, CEB);
    - European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, EBRD);
    - European Investment Bank (EIB);
    - Inter-American Development Bank (Inter-American Development Bank, IADB);
    - International Finance Corporation (International Finance Corporation, IFC);
    - International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD);
    - International Monetary Fund (IMF);
    - Northern Investment Bank (Nordic Investment Bank, NIB).
    5. The Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation has the right to establish additional requirements for debt obligations and deposits with foreign banks and credit organizations within the limits established by the Government of the Russian Federation.
    In accordance with the authority granted by the Government of the Russian Federation, the Ministry of Finance of the Russian Federation approved:
    1. regulatory currency structure of the Reserve Fund in the following composition
    US dollar - 45%;
    Euro - 45%;
    pound sterling - 10%.
    3. the list of foreign state agencies in whose debt obligations the funds of the Reserve Fund can be placed (as agreed with the Central Bank of the Russian Federation):
    - Austrian Export-Import Bank (Oesterreichische Kontrollbank Aktiengesellschaft, OKB);
    - Agency for State Lending, Spain (Instituto de Credito Oficial, ICO);
    - Agency for financing motorways and motorways, Austria (Autobahnen- und Schnellstrassen- Finanzierungs- Aktiengesellschaft, ASFINAG);
    - Group of banks for reconstruction and development, Germany (Kreditanstalt fur Wiederaufbau Bankengruppe);
    - Canadian Agency for Export Development (Export Development Canada, EDC);
    - Municipal Bank of the Netherlands (Bank Nederlandse Gemeenten, BNG);
    - Medium-Term Railway Network Financing Society, United Kingdom (Network Rail MTN Finance CLG (Plc));
    - Agricultural rental bank, Germany (Landwirtschaftliche Rentenbank);
    - The Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, USA (Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation, Freddie Mac);
    - Federal National Mortgage Association, USA (Federal National Mortgage Assosiation, Fannie Mae);
    - Federal banks lending to housing, USA (Federal Home Loan Banks, FHLBanks);
    - Federal Farm Credit Banks, USA (Federal Farm Credit Banks, FFCB);
    - Municipal Credit Fund, France (Dexia Group);
    - Social Security Debt Service Fund, France (Caisse d'Amortissement de la Dette Sociale, CADES);
    - French Mortgage Fund (Credit Foncier de France, CFF);

    Quote: Saburov
    Is agriculture and industry in decline? Yes!
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    NOT! Russian exports are estimated at 24,5 mln tons of wheat, Canada - 22,5 mln tons, the USA - 21,09 mln tons. In total, grain exports from 1 July 2015 to 8 June 2016% increased by 12,3% to 33,04 mln tons, follows from Russian Ministry of Agriculture.


    I advise you to watch Grudinin’s speech at the State Duma hearings.

    Or read here this article, which for "incomprehensible" reasons was removed from the Military Review
    http://kvedomosti.ru/news/celxozperepis-krestyane
    -zabrosili-rossiyu.html

    And the reports of officials and authorities ... the paper will endure everything.

    In general, right-wing conservatism will soon be like under the last tsar.
    The right-wing conservatives satisfied the predominance in the export of bread, the goal was declared "to hold all the grain trade in Europe in hands and make Europe completely dependent on our bread wealth." Thus, in the nineteenth century. Russia survived 40 hunger strikes. In the twentieth century. were hungry 1901 / 02 gg., 1905; 1906; 1907; 1908 g .; 1911 / 12 In the 1901-1902 years, the 49 provinces were starving, in the 1905; 1906; 1907; 1908 starved from 19 to 29 provinces, in 1911-1912 years. for 2 years, famine swept 60 provinces. 30 million people were on the brink of death. According to various estimates in 1901-1912 years. about 8 million people died from hunger and its consequences. The tsarist government was most concerned about how to hide the scale of hunger strikes. In the press, censorship forbade the use of the word hunger, replacing it with the word "infirmity." Nicholas II sharply curtailed the rights of zemstvos to combat hunger, and in 1911 and 1912 completely prohibited the participation of zemstvos, the Red Cross, and charitable organizations in helping the starving. Where do the allegations come from that Russia produced more grain than other countries combined? After all, in the 1913 year, the United States produced 96 million tons of grain - more than Russia. In total production, Russia was in the 2 place after the United States, while per capita production put it in the 5 place. If we take European countries, as well as Australia and Canada, then Russia was thrown into the 2 ten and even lower. It is necessary to pay attention to the figures characterizing the production of grain per capita. England, France, Germany, producing grain of less than 500 kg per capita, were its importers. USA, Canada, Argentina, producing 800-1200 kg of grain per capita exported it. And only Russia, producing less than 500 kg (the norm of self-sufficiency in production grain) of grain per capita, exported it. Those. export went at the expense of dooming part of the population to malnutrition and hunger.

    Quote: Saburov
    Social injustice in Russia? Yes!
    Quote: osoboye_mneniye
    NO!


    It is enough to bring the current pensions of ordinary citizens and deputies to put you in a puddle!

    PS You can not read further ... this is a clinic! All the best to you! I wish you to fully master the "multi-path" and more faith in the Tricky Plan!