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Trump "realized the reality" and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Trump countered the whole world!

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Mr. Trump has declared himself as a peacemaker. Apparently, Mr. Obama's laurels do not give rest. And if Obama didn’t really get along with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, then Trump has everything in the openwork. At least, his peacekeeping fervor in Tel Aviv was appreciated. Sorry, in Jerusalem.




After D. Trump's decision to recognize the city of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, the Palestinians took to the streets and began to burn American flags and portraits of the above-mentioned Trump. Trump himself believes that his decision will bring to the region ... peace. The statement is more than controversial.

"Trump recognizes Jerusalem as the capital of Israel," with such news December 6 released a report on the TV channel CNN.

“On Wednesday, President Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel and announced plans to relocate the US Embassy, ​​which is expected to exacerbate tensions in the region and damage the prospects for building peace,” the report said.

“Plans for the transfer”, we note, means that in the near future, the State Department will deal with the issue of construction. Trump has already ordered the State Department to “begin preparations for the transfer of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,” noting that his decision will allow the State Department to begin hiring architects and building contractors. The new embassy Trump considers "a great contribution to peace."

Mr Trump said the following: “Today, we finally recognize the obvious: Jerusalem is the capital of Israel. This is nothing but an awareness of reality, this is also correct, ”said Trump, whose speech was recorded in the diplomatic reception of the White House.

Much time has passed, but Israel and the Palestinians did not get closer to a lasting peace agreement, Mr. Trump noted. Therefore, “it would be foolish to assume that repeating the same formula will now lead to a different or better result.”

Trump's decision negated as many as seven decades of US foreign policy. Previous White House administrations resisted recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel until the Israeli-Palestinian conflict was resolved, reminds CNN.

“I’m doing this today,” Trump said, pointing to one of his campaign promises.

At the same time, Trump’s decision could lead to the collapse of the peace process in the region and heightened security risks. The region is already on the verge of disaster. Acknowledging the concerns of regional Arab leaders, Trump nevertheless insisted on his decision, reaffirming the United States’s commitment to helping both Israelis and Palestinians to “reach a peace agreement”. He also stressed that his statement does not mark a shift in US policy toward the “final” borders of the Israeli and Palestinian states.

The United States does not take a position on any issues of "final status," including "final boundaries," Trump said, since the relevant issues "relate to the parties involved." The United States is only “deeply committed” to helping to promote a peace agreement that is “acceptable to both parties.”

Trump's speech, reported CNN, was warmly welcomed by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. He used this American statement as an opportunity to encourage other countries to join the United States and also recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

“The decision of the president is an important step towards peace, because there is no peace that would not define Jerusalem as the capital of the state of Israel,” Netanyahu said.

It cannot be said that the international community, and especially the Arab part of it, would be made happy with such kind of theses.

Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas condemned and rejected Trump’s decision, CNN reported. In a televised address, the Palestinian leader said that this step would help extremist organizations wage their “holy wars”. He explained his position:

“This process will also assist extremist organizations in their conduct of religious war, which harms the entire region, which is already experiencing a critical moment, and will lead us to wars that will never end, as we have warned and always called for to fight.”


Palestinian Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee chief Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erakat voiced the following opinion: Trump's decision "disqualified the United States of America" ​​and now the United States "cannot play any role in any peace process." President Trump, by his decision, “simply destroyed all the policies of the two states,” Erakat noted. "He decided to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, and this is completely contrary to the agreements signed by the Palestinians and Israelis," he added.

Trump's decision on Jerusalem was shared by his chief presidential advisers, as well as Secretary of Defense James Mattis, CIA Director Mike Pompeo and Secretary of State Rex Tillerson, despite some controversy. According to CNN sources, Vice President Mike Pence, the UN ambassador Nikki Haley and the US ambassador to Israel, David Friedman, also supported this move. High-ranking officials, rallied around the president, including Jared Kushner and special envoy Jason Greenblatt, while supporting the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital, called on Trump to postpone the “movement” with the construction of the embassy. This data CNN cites from "sources."

Here are some more opinions about recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.

Palestinian Ambassador to Russia Nofal Abdelhafiz called the transfer of the capital of Israel a crazy move leading “to chaos and hell.” And not a single Palestinian, not one of the leaders of the Arab world will take such a step.

"Therefore, starting from now, we, the Palestinians, are refusing mediation by the United States in advancing the peace process," the channel quotes the diplomat. "RT". “A new era is beginning, we completely reject such a stance by the United States and President Trump and intend to seek to respect their rights.”

The Iranian Foreign Ministry also negatively evaluated the step taken by Washington. "The Iranian Foreign Ministry condemns in harshness the step of the US government to transfer the embassy from Tel Aviv to the occupied holy city and the recognition of the holy city as the capital of the occupation regime and considers this step to violate UN resolutions," said a spokesman for the diplomatic department Bahram Kasemi.

Sheikh Tamim bin Hamad Al Thani, the Emir of Qatar, warned the American president in a telephone conversation that recognition of Jerusalem as the Israeli capital would have a negative impact on the security of the Middle East.

Trump's decision was rejected in Egypt.

Egyptian President Abdel Fattah al-Sisi, in a telephone conversation with Mahmoud Abbas, announced his negative reaction. “During the conversation, the president rejected this decision and all its consequences,” the press service of the head of Egypt said.

Finally, in the Arab League a verdict was handed down: the Middle East peace process is dead. “The peace process can be considered dead after Trump’s statement. Such a move will anger all Palestinians and Arabs, ”said Assistant Secretary-General H. Zaki.

Turkey called on the international community to show solidarity with the people of Palestine. “We reject and condemn this irresponsible and illegal decision of the US leadership. The whole world should oppose this decision, which violates UN resolutions and international law, and take a seat alongside the people of Palestine, ”Ibrahim Kalyn, press secretary of the president, wrote on Twitter.

At the EU level, Trump inherited from Federica Mogherini.

“The European Union is deeply concerned about the announcement today by US President Donald Trump regarding Jerusalem and the consequences it may have on the prospects for (achieving) peace,” said the head of EU diplomacy. According to her, the EU’s position on this issue remains unchanged, and the countries of the Union will continue to abide by the consensus on Jerusalem, spelled out in UN Security Council resolution 478, including with regard to the location of diplomatic missions.

The UN Secretary General himself spoke out. António Guterres noted that there is no alternative to resolving the Palestinian-Israeli conflict on the principle of two-state coexistence. “The status of Jerusalem is an issue that must be resolved during direct negotiations between the two parties through the mediation of the UN Security Council and the General Assembly,” concluded Guterres.

Disagree with the decision of Trump, Prime Minister of Great Britain Teresa May, who said that the British Embassy will remain in Tel Aviv, German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the Frenchman Macron. The latter expressed "deep apprehensions" and even called on Trump to reconsider the situation.

Delegations from France, Italy, Sweden, the United Kingdom, Egypt, Bolivia, Uruguay and Senegal requested an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council on the situation with Jerusalem.

Russia also condemned the decision of the White House.

The recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is grossly violating the two-state principle of settlement, said Konstantin Kosachev, head of the international affairs committee of the Federation Council.

“The recognition of all of Jerusalem as the capital of one state, Israel, will be a gross violation of the two-state settlement principle, resolutions of the Security Council and the UN General Assembly and its own obligations of the United States. I believe that the reaction of Russia should be appropriate, and it will coincide with the reaction of the overwhelming majority of the international community, "he said Interfax.

On Palestinian territory since December 5, when the White House’s proposed decision was already known, trump portraits and American flags are burning. Moreover, Hamas promised to arrange a Friday "day of wrath."

"Day of Wrath" is explained precisely by the decision of the United States to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Grouping statement results «Medusa». The text says that after the Friday prayer, Palestinians from the West Bank should express their attitude towards Israel and make it available using all available methods.

Manul Hasasian, Palestinian Authority Ambassador to Great Britain, added fuel to the fire, stating that Donald Trump’s decision was “declaring war against 1,5 of a billion Muslims and hundreds of millions of Christians who are not happy that religious shrines would be under Israeli hegemony.”

His future decision, we add, Mr. Trump did not keep a secret. He spoke about this earlier, even last year. The recognition of Jerusalem as the capital and the transfer of the embassy were Trump's campaign promises. In addition, on the eve of his speech at the White House, Donald Trump himself phoned the leaders of Egypt, Palestine and Jordan and notified them of his intention. In Palestine, realizing that the decision had already been made, they perceived it as a coming catastrophe.

The essence of the old conflict is obvious. The reasons why it is extremely difficult to resolve are also understandable.

Israel occupied the western part of Jerusalem during the Arab-Israeli war 1947-1949. Then the city was divided into two parts: one went to Israel, the second to Transjordan. Transjordan occupied and annexed the West Bank, including East Jerusalem, and then Transjordan was renamed the Kingdom of Jordan.

After the Six Day War (1967 year), which was fought by the Israelis at the same time as Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Algeria, Israel captured the territory of East Jerusalem. The annexation of the territory was enshrined in law, adopted later in the year 1980. Israeli law declared Jerusalem the "indivisible" capital of the state. The Palestinians, of course, have their own opinion on this subject: they believe that the detached part of the city should be the capital of an independent Palestinian state.

There is an opinion from the UN. The Security Council in the same 1980 adopted Resolution 478, where it condemned Israeli law as violating international law.

Despite this resolution, the Israeli authorities for several decades have consistently convinced foreign states to locate their embassies in Jerusalem.

And now, thanks to the decision of Trump and his advisers, the US Embassy will move there from Tel Aviv. However, with this Kushner Trump does not advise to hurry.

In fact, the idea of ​​recognizing the capital of Israel "indivisible" in the United States is not new and does not belong to Trump at all.

The American congressmen approved the corresponding bill in 1995 year. According to the document, the US Embassy should be moved from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. However, three presidents in a row, Bill Clinton, George Bush (Jr.) and Barack Obama, rightly rejected this act. The fact is that the issue is not the responsibility of the congress, but of the president.

That is why congressmen do not decree to Mr. Trump in his decision. And if the presidents listed above were afraid of the deterioration of the situation in the Middle East and even of a new war, then Trump, apparently, is worsening, and war is liking. No wonder he pumps money to the Pentagon, and through him - the military-industrial complex.

And the Nobel Peace Prize hardly shines him like Obama: after all, at the UN, Trump’s peacemaking idea was criticized.

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  1. zzdimk
    zzdimk 8 December 2017 06: 15 New
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    Political multifrenia - to his clinic!
    ZY: to the chamber next to McCain.
    1. dSK
      dSK 8 December 2017 06: 20 New
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      Quote: zzdimk
      Political

      Quote: "Trump, apparently, and deterioration, and the war to his liking. Not without reason, he pumps the Pentagon with money, and through it - the military-industrial complex."
      The Throne of the Antichrist: What is Trump doing with Jerusalem?
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      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 8 December 2017 07: 06 New
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        Simply put, for the "party of war" in Washington right now - after the defeat of ISIS by the Syrian troops with the help of the Russian Aerospace Forces - It remained necessary to urgently reanimate the exacerbation in the BV against Syria, Russia and Iran. That’s why Trump is dragging Israel into Jerusalem’s war of aggression in the US war on Israeli bombs by violating Jerusalem, in violation of international law on previously dividing the borders between Israel and Palestine in Jerusalem.

        In short. Washington decided to force Israel to pull the chestnuts out of the fire with the hands of the Zionist Jews themselves from Israel!
        1. The black
          The black 8 December 2017 10: 38 New
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          Trump “realized reality” and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
          Well then, let him take the next step in "awareness of reality" - recognizes the Crimean Russian smile
          1. Shahno
            Shahno 8 December 2017 10: 53 New
            +6
            Your truth. You need to make an effort. For a long time we instilled recognition to the comrade to the president. Grated kalach, the same businessman.
        2. Lex.
          Lex. 8 December 2017 11: 55 New
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          In short. Washington decided to force Israel to pull the chestnuts out of the fire with the hands of the Zionist Jews themselves from Israel!
          Do not write nonsense
          http://cursorinfo.co.il/kadyrov-grozit-izrailyu-s
          hirokomasshtabnoj-vojnoj /
          We also have Russophobes on our sites, and you have enough antisimit of marginals both on our side and yours
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 8 December 2017 12: 39 New
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            Lex.
            We also have Russophobes on our sites, and you have enough antisimit of marginals both on our side and yours
            Lex! At first. You are wrong. And you know, what is your logical mistake? You simply confuse two concepts - "anti-Semitism" with "anti-Zionism".
            There is nothing to do with anti-Semitism here, for both Jews and Arabs are the same ethnic Semites, who also live together in the same region in the BV. In this case, one cannot be anti-Semite only against Jews. Here you have a logical error. Otherwise, following your logic, the Russians then had to speak in BV not only against the Jews, but also against the Arabs in general - and against, the ATS, in particular. But this is not so! Russia has protected the peoples of Syria from external and internal aggressors, destroying the country.
            But Zionism is precisely the POLITICAL concept of unification only for the Jews themselves and it is directed against other peoples, as well as against neighboring states of Israel. Unfortunately, not many Israelis understand this.
            So anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are completely different concepts.

            And secondly, listen to what Jacob Kedmi says about Trump's recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Namely, that you - the Israelis - were simply deceived! You are being manipulated both in Washington and in the leadership of Israel itself.
            It's about Trump's political provocation in BV!

            "Jacob Kedmi: Trump's recognition of Jerusalem is a publicity stunt." Posted on: 7 Dec 2017

            The recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel, which was announced by US President Donald Trump, is a publicity stunt, the consequences of which will cost dearly both to Israel and the United States itself, ”said Yakov Kedmi, ex-head of Nativ.
            1. Shahno
              Shahno 8 December 2017 12: 47 New
              +5
              Jacob expresses his opinion. But he clearly didn’t read (ignore) even the official transcripts. And even more so, I am not among the negotiators. A smart person seems to be counting on his audience.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 8 December 2017 12: 57 New
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                Shahno
                Jacob is counting on his audience.
                Pavel! And how is his audience worse than yours? After all, we are all looking for mutual understanding. War always comes back to where it came from! Ordinary Israelis need war? Surely not.
                Jacob clearly did not even read official transcripts. And even more so, it is clearly not included in the circles of negotiators.
                Jacob - a former intelligence officer, ex-head of "Nativ"! And there are no "former" scouts!
                He is a fan of Israel and does not want the Israelis to be manipulated into the war!
                1. Shahno
                  Shahno 8 December 2017 13: 04 New
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                  I agree. And I support him in one very important thing. Consciously or not, he ignores important information. First of all, he seeks peace. And including between Russia and Israel builds bridges.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 8 December 2017 13: 08 New
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                    Shahno
                    Consciously or not, he ignores important information.
                    Pavel! Well then tell me what important information Kedmi, in your opinion, ignores! So that we understand each other.
                    1. Shahno
                      Shahno 8 December 2017 13: 11 New
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                      Well, Tatyana. You are pulling me into what I have to say. This is my purely personal opinion.
                      Trump's trick has such objective reasons that it is not a trick. This is a prepared exit to the tatami ...
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 8 December 2017 13: 16 New
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                        Shahno
                        This is my purely personal opinion.
                        Ha! Pavel! This is not a big deal, for a purely personal opinion does not stand still, but develops - and it tends to change depending on the circumstances and the completeness of the information field! hi
                      2. Winnie76
                        Winnie76 8 December 2017 14: 27 New
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                        Quote: Shahno
                        that this is not a trick. This is a prepared exit to the tatami ...

                        Rather, it is a small yeast stick in a large cesspool.
                2. igor67
                  igor67 8 December 2017 15: 19 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Jacob - a former intelligence officer, ex-head of "Nativ"! And there are no "former" scouts!
                  He is a fan of Israel and does not want the Israelis to be manipulated into the war!

                  what kind of intelligence officer is he? he was engaged in returnees arriving, as I understand it, practically no one knows him in Israel except for some Russian-speaking pensioners. The main audience is you, Russians.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 8 December 2017 15: 51 New
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                    igor67
                    in Israel, practically no one knows him except for some Russian-speaking pensioners. The main audience is you, Russians.
                    Maybe. But keep in mind that at one time, Israeli intelligence "Nativ", headed by Jacob Kedmi, played a big role in the formation of civil society in Israel.
                    REFERENCE
                    Israeli intelligence "Nativ" specialized in ensuring the right to repatriate Jews from the USSR, whose immigration to Israel was much more difficult. The fulfillment of this mission was carried out, inter alia, through political pressure on the leadership of the Union. The tasks of the special services ”“ Nativ ”also included maintaining relations with representatives of the Jewish people who remained in the USSR and in other states of the Soviet bloc.
                    After the collapse of the Soviet Union and the fall of the communist regime, the need for such an organization virtually disappeared. "Nativ" has lost the status of special services and is currently engaged simply in maintaining relations with Jews in the CIS and the Baltic states.
                    So Kedmi in its place and is of great benefit to Israel. And in vain the young Israelis underestimate him. This is a very high level professional.
                  2. Professor
                    Professor 8 December 2017 19: 52 New
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                    Quote: igor67
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    Jacob - a former intelligence officer, ex-head of "Nativ"! And there are no "former" scouts!
                    He is a fan of Israel and does not want the Israelis to be manipulated into the war!

                    what kind of intelligence officer is he? he was engaged in returnees arriving, as I understand it, practically no one knows him in Israel except for some Russian-speaking pensioners. The main audience is you, Russians.

                    For participating in Russian television shows, he receives good fees. And by the way, not one of his "prophecies" has come true.
                  3. Ruslan67
                    Ruslan67 10 December 2017 03: 37 New
                    +4
                    drinks Remember, there was such an Oreste Pinto? It's from the same series. request Let's gather for the next Shabbat? Then I’ll explain everything smile
                3. Krabik
                  Krabik 8 December 2017 17: 44 New
                  +6
                  Jacob and other local "analysts" push through Israeli interests in Russia.

                  When you listen to Satanovsky or Jacob know - this is what Israel says through his mouth.
                  And the USA is behind Israel.

                  That is, they push the interests of the United States with us in such a cunning way.

                  Next, you need to understand what Israel is and read about the European Crusades to the East and the World Bank.

                  Trite - this is a large military base with brainwashed imprisoned in the war against the Arabs.
                4. Professor
                  Professor 8 December 2017 18: 56 New
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                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Jacob - a former intelligence officer, ex-head of "Nativ"! And there are no "former" scouts!

                  “Nativ” is never reconnaissance and Yasha Kazakov is never a scout, but there are many ordinary pensioners here.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 8 December 2017 19: 14 New
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                    Professor
                    “Nativ” is never reconnaissance and Yasha Kazakov is never a scout, but there are many ordinary pensioners here.

                    REFERENCE
                    Yakov Yasha Kedmi (Hebrew יעקב קדמי; genus Yakov Iosifovich Kazakoev; 5 March 1947, Moscow, USSR) - Israeli statesman, head of the intelligence service Nativ in 1992-1999, a recognized expert on military-political issues and international politics. Has significant political influence in the Russian-speaking community and among Russian-speaking politicians in Israel [1] [2]
                    In the 1969 year, he committed aliyah [3] to Israel. He served in the Israel Defense Forces during the Doomsday War.
                    A professional intelligence officer [4], under diplomatic cover from the 1977 year, worked at Nativa, the Israeli intelligence service involved in the evacuation of Jews to Israel from countries from which they were prohibited from traveling and from hot spots. The activities of Nativ under the leadership of Kedmi are associated with the most massive repatriation of Jews from the USSR to Israel, with the resettlement of more than 1 million people who became part of the social phenomenon of Big Aliyah. Repatriates from the USSR and the post-Soviet space significantly increased Israel’s GDP and its defense capability, and also created a social base for Russian-speaking Israeli politicians [5].
                    In the 1980-1990's, Kedmi was an influential statesman, who largely determined the policy of Israel. In 1996-1999, he was a key member of the Israeli secret services committee under Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Iran’s armed forces [2].
                    The position of the head of Nativ is similar to the general position in the IDF, and since 1999, Kedmi, having retired, receives a pension equivalent to the pension of an army general (aluf)[6].
                    Professor! Everyone in Israel would be such SIMPLE pensioners! yes
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 8 December 2017 19: 50 New
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                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Professor! Everyone in Israel would be such SIMPLE pensioners!

                      1. We have thousands of “retired generals,” and they did not become special from this. Yasha is an ordinary pique vest and is neither a "scout" nor a "public figure."
                      2. And where is in your link that Kazakov is a scout?

                      Quote: Tatiana
                      In the 1980-1990's, Kedmi was an influential statesman, who largely determined the policy of Israel.

                      Do not read Wiki, it is not always useful.

                      Quote: Tatiana
                      Ha! Professor! Are you really a professor? And then I began to doubt something about your profession. Maybe you are a professor in the technical field? Then you have similar logical errors for techies - it’s all right, it happens.

                      That's always the case. You poke the anti-Semite in his own ... and he immediately turns to personality.
                      For your information, I am not a real professor, although I have several degrees.

                      PS
                      What is the name of a person refusing Russian the right to his state? wink
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 8 December 2017 20: 53 New
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                        Professor
                        That's always the case. You poke the anti-Semite in his own ... and he immediately turns to personality.
                        Because you reason wrong! I want to understand why.
                        Well, with public disciplines, your professor is clearly in trouble! And do not be offended by me! You do not own philosophical methods! Therefore, you are jammed in the logical content of such concepts.
                        What is the name of a person refusing Russian the right to his state?
                        It depends on who refuses the Russian statehood to what extent and for what strategic political purpose refuses. For example.

                        Is it just Russophobia? This is Zionism. And why, tell me, should a Jewish state be built by seizing power only by Jews in the national states of other nations? Due to the implementation of the Jewish coups in them "from above" and the seizure of foreign lands?
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 9 December 2017 08: 27 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Professor
                        That's always the case. You poke the anti-Semite in his own ... and he immediately turns to personality.
                        Because you reason wrong! I want to understand why.

                        And therefore, go to personality? Where is the logic? fool

                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Well, with public disciplines, your professor is clearly in trouble! And do not be offended by me! You do not own philosophical methods! Therefore, you are jammed in the logical content of such concepts.

                        According to my philosophy, the university had 5, and you yourself from which Alma Mater?

                        Quote: Tatiana
                        It depends on who refuses the Russian statehood to what extent and for what strategic political purpose refuses. For example.

                        I can draw a thousand of these fakes. You have just sat down in a puddle bringing such creativity. Then you didn’t have a printer at hand, and take a photo with your mobile phone (by the way, the book was supposedly electronic and you could just make a print screen). Now merge when you are asked to indicate the source of this "statement".

                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Is it just Russophobia? This is Zionism. And why, tell me, should a Jewish state be built by seizing power only by Jews in the national states of other nations? Due to the implementation of the Jewish coups in them "from above" and the seizure of foreign lands?

                        These are fantasies of anti-Semite.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 9 December 2017 22: 42 New
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                        Professor 8.12.2017. 19: 50
                        I can draw a thousand of these fakes. You have just sat down in a puddle bringing such creativity.
                        Professor! Well, why should I repeat myself when my colleague already answered you for me there ?! yes And he has already commented on our controversy.
                        Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 09: 06 ↑
                        “Russia is a conquered power. She lost the titanic struggle. And to say “it was not Russia, but the Soviet Union” means to flee from reality. It was Russia, called the Soviet Union. She challenged the USA. She was defeated. Now there is no need to fuel illusions about the great power of Russia. It’s necessary to discourage such a way of thinking ... Russia will be fragmented and under guardianship. ”

                        "A new world order with US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia."

                        From the book of Zbigniew Brzezinski “Choice. World domination or global leadership ”(Moscow, International Relations, 2010, p. 127):
                        Ma'am, do not pay attention to cheap trolling, It is common for ignoramuses to question other judgments .....
                        And what does the word of Brzezinski? Is there, no? Their meaning is realized with great success .... Now in the Olympic movement ...
                        See - https://topwar.ru/131286-v-phenchhan-pod-belym-fl
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            2. Professor
              Professor 8 December 2017 18: 54 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              And you know, what is your logical mistake? You simply confuse two concepts - "anti-Semitism" with "anti-Zionism".

              New song of anti-Semites. I say that I have nothing against the Jews, only against their desire to create their own national hearth. And what do you call a person claiming that he is not against the Russians, but against Russia and the rights of these Russians in their state? Do not answer. We know the answer.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 8 December 2017 19: 00 New
                +4
                Professor
                Quote: Tatiana
                And you know, what is your logical mistake? You simply confuse two concepts - "anti-Semitism" with "anti-Zionism".
                New song of anti-Semites.

                Ha! Professor! Are you really a professor? And then I began to doubt something about your profession. hiMaybe you are a professor in the technical field? Then you have similar logical errors for techies - it’s all right, it happens.
            3. Pushkar
              Pushkar 8 December 2017 23: 39 New
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana

              But Zionism - this is precisely the POLITICAL concept of unification only for the Jews themselves and it is directed against other peoples, as well as against neighboring states of Israel.
              Definition of Zionism from Wikipedia: Zionism (Hebrew צִיּוֹנוּת, otsionut - from the name of Mount Zion in Jerusalem) is a political movement whose purpose is to unite and revive the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel (Eretz Israel), as well as an ideological concept on which this movement is based [1] [2] [3] [4].

              The ideology of Zionism unites movements of different orientations - from left-socialist to orthodox-religious. Before World War II (see the Holocaust), Zionism was one of the largest socio-political movements of the Jewish people (along with the Bund working movement for cultural autonomy and territorialism). After World War II, it became the only Jewish nationalism movement.
              Once again - "Unification and revival of the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel." Just.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 9 December 2017 01: 03 New
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                Pushkar
                Once again - "Unification and revival of the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel." Just.
                Yeah, "just that!" No matter how! And the very ideology of Zionism as a political guide to action, where did you divide it? And politics, as an expression of the economic interests of the Jews and also as a guide to action in Zionism, where have you divided it? You have encircled the content of the concept of "Zionism" - and so you have received "just something"! Everything is much more complex and historically deeper and wider.
                1. Krasnodar
                  Krasnodar 9 December 2017 01: 36 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Pushkar
                  Once again - "Unification and revival of the Jewish people in their historical homeland - in Israel." Just.
                  Yeah, "just that!" No matter how! And the very ideology of Zionism as a political guide to action, where did you divide it? And politics, as an expression of the economic interests of the Jews and also as a guide to action in Zionism, where have you divided it? You have encircled the content of the concept of "Zionism" - and so you have received "just something"! Everything is much more complex and historically deeper and wider.

                  There is such a paradigm, or concept, as Okama's razor - google, there will be a lot of free time :)
                  I promise.
        3. GAF
          GAF 8 December 2017 18: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          In short. Washington decided to force Israel to pull the chestnuts out of the fire with the hands of the Zionist Jews themselves from Israel!

          It seems so.
          It is unknown whose comrade Trump. They just showed on TV his sweeping signature in dynamics over the entire width of the sheet, not at all like a nail hammered in ... And before that, Kissinger, not marked by idle talk, prophesied the death of the state of Israel by the 25th year. Independent random events or is there a correlation between them? What's next?
      2. Shironay
        Shironay 8 December 2017 08: 55 New
        +7
        Trump is a great president, especially against the backdrop of one of the worst presidents in US history, Barack Hussein Obama. The time will come - and in Israel they will call the streets in the name of President Trump.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 December 2017 09: 05 New
          11
          Shironay
          The time will come - and in Israel they will call the streets in the name of President Trump.
          I have no doubt about that! After all, Trump, in the eyes of the Zionists of Israel and not only Israel, became the continuation of the Talmudic Zion’s work to seize the whole world for the Jews to establish their world domination over other peoples.
          1. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 8 December 2017 12: 08 New
            +3
            Quote: Tatiana
            Shironay
            The time will come - and in Israel they will call the streets in the name of President Trump.
            I have no doubt about that! After all, Trump, in the eyes of the Zionists of Israel and not only Israel, became the continuation of the Talmudic Zion’s work to seize the whole world for the Jews to establish their world domination over other peoples.

            With a swastika to your beloved Palestinians, Iraqis and Syrians. Hitler is their idol.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 8 December 2017 13: 38 New
              +8
              Krasnodar
              With a swastika to your beloved Palestinians, Iraqis and Syrians. Hitler is their idol.
              Do not tell! And this, in your opinion, who? With a bale on his head, with a swastika around his neck, in a T-shirt with a completely non-angelic pattern - at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem? I’m not talking about the USA at all.

              But in general, how to whine, and respond!
              As for radical Islam, you are right - this is also fascism.
              1. Krasnodar
                Krasnodar 8 December 2017 16: 43 New
                +4
                Quote: Tatiana
                Krasnodar
                With a swastika to your beloved Palestinians, Iraqis and Syrians. Hitler is their idol.
                Do not tell! And this, in your opinion, who? With a bale on his head, with a swastika around his neck, in a T-shirt with a completely non-angelic pattern - at the Wailing Wall in Jerusalem? I’m not talking about the USA at all.

                But in general, how to whine, and respond!
                As for radical Islam, you are right - this is also fascism.

                This is photoshop, Tatyana
                He wouldn’t come to the wailing wall with such a tattoo - they would have slapped him.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 8 December 2017 17: 10 New
                  +4
                  Krasnodar
                  This is photoshop, Tatyana
                  Unfortunately no! This is definitely not photoshop!
                  He wouldn’t come to the wailing wall with such a tattoo - they would have slapped him.
                  Nonsense! Who will approach him with such forms?
                  Ha! Well, you just surprise me with your optimism! laughing
                  What are you ?! In fact, people, especially civilians, are always very cowardly, and each for himself! Nobody will contact him! Everyone will pretend that they did not notice anything.
                  He will approach the crying wall - and more than once! In principle, it does not violate anything.
                  1. Slavon2000
                    Slavon2000 9 December 2017 11: 19 New
                    +1
                    Your fantasies beat with a key
                    In a fit of your obsession, to tie Israel to the Nazis by displaying a stupid processed photoshop (like your first photo with a skull and a white house with a swastika) just look very sorry ... How do you like this real historical photo?
                2. Astapan
                  Astapan 8 December 2017 19: 30 New
                  +2
                  Have you been there? Personally beat?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 8 December 2017 19: 54 New
                    +3
                    Quote: AstapAN
                    Have you been there? Personally beat?

                    And you try to go to the Wailing Wall without passing several security cordons.
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 8 December 2017 22: 33 New
                      +1
                      Quote: Professor
                      And you try to go to the Wailing Wall without passing several security cordons.
                      Well, he went in a jacket with a scarf around his neck - then it became hot for him and he took everything off of himself! Is it business? Nobody will arrange incidents near the Wailing Wall. All are immersed in prayer.
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 December 2017 01: 48 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Quote: Professor
                        And you try to go to the Wailing Wall without passing several security cordons.
                        Well, he went in a jacket with a scarf around his neck - then it became hot for him and he took everything off of himself! Is it business? Nobody will arrange incidents near the Wailing Wall. All are immersed in prayer.

                        Well, more than once the cops fought there :)
                        There were no big fights and extinguished them in the bud, but still ..
                      2. Professor
                        Professor 9 December 2017 08: 30 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Well, he went in a jacket with a scarf around his neck - then it became hot for him and he took everything off of himself! Is it business? Nobody will arrange incidents near the Wailing Wall. All are immersed in prayer.

                        In Photoshop, he passed. Everything is possible there.

                        PS
                        For the sake of laughter. Who and when took this picture? Where was it first published? Who is in the picture? laughing
                  2. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 9 December 2017 01: 46 New
                    +3
                    Quote: AstapAN
                    Have you been there? Personally beat?

                    It was. Pounded near the wall - on Agay street - on duty (the so-called border police - MAGAV).
                    And I'm not an indicator - still (41 years old) I go in for sports and even mate.
                3. seal78
                  seal78 8 December 2017 20: 56 New
                  +1
                  This is not Photoshop. Last month I was in Israel, including at the Western Wall. There were a lot of different people of all kinds, with and without tattoos, with inscriptions on T-shirts for every taste. And nobody beat anyone, everything was calm.
                  1. Krasnodar
                    Krasnodar 9 December 2017 01: 46 New
                    -1
                    Quote: seal78
                    This is not Photoshop. Last month I was in Israel, including at the Western Wall. There were a lot of different people of all kinds, with and without tattoos, with inscriptions on T-shirts for every taste. And nobody beat anyone, everything was calm.

                    If they would detect the swastika, they would.
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 9 December 2017 08: 31 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Krasnodar
                      If they would detect the swastika, they would.

                      And you tell them how Michael Jackson went to the Wailing Wall and how he carried away his legs. wink
                      1. Krasnodar
                        Krasnodar 9 December 2017 12: 06 New
                        0
                        Quote: Professor
                        Quote: Krasnodar
                        If they would detect the swastika, they would.

                        And you tell them how Michael Jackson went to the Wailing Wall and how he carried away his legs. wink

                        And he came with a solid guard ...
          2. nikolaev
            nikolaev 8 December 2017 16: 27 New
            +4
            Great Israel is the Master of the USA, and not vice versa. Moreover, Israel is the master of all countries and controls them with the help of financial institutions - this is why two world wars were launched, in which Israel, in fact, became the winner. After these events, having suffered through centuries of ordeals, a Jew opens the door with his foot to any government offices of all countries.
            Moreover, the era of revenge has come for the ordeals of the sons and daughters of Israel to all the gentiles - LGBT people, juvenile justice, the destruction of states, crowds of refugees and much more to come - reckoning
            1. dSK
              dSK 8 December 2017 18: 22 New
              +1
              Quote: nikolaev
              the era of revenge has come for the ordeals of the sons and daughters of Israel to all the gentiles - LGBT people, juvenile justice, the destruction of states, crowds of refugees and much more to come
              - "Golden Horde 2.0"
    2. Chertt
      Chertt 8 December 2017 06: 21 New
      +5
      Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a strong political and symbolic move. Even the fact that Trump did this on Twitter does not mean the seriousness of this step. But are the USA and Israel ready to answer for their actions?
      1. Shironay
        Shironay 8 December 2017 08: 56 New
        +6
        Ready. A united Jerusalem is the heart and soul of our people. And this is more important than any piece of paper on a peace agreement.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 8 December 2017 10: 44 New
          +5

          Quote: Shiryonay
          Chertt Today, 06: 21 ↑
          Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a strong political and symbolic move. Even the fact that Trump did this on Twitter does not mean the seriousness of this step. But are the USA and Israel ready to answer for their actions?
          Ready. A united Jerusalem is the heart and soul of our people. And this is more important than any piece of paper on a peace agreement.
          Shironay! This is a Zionist ideology and in Jerusalem the Zionists of Israel and the whole world will not stop!
          1. Professor
            Professor 8 December 2017 20: 00 New
            +4
            Quote: Tatiana
            Quote: Shiryonay
            Chertt Today, 06: 21 ↑
            Recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel is a strong political and symbolic move. Even the fact that Trump did this on Twitter does not mean the seriousness of this step. But are the USA and Israel ready to answer for their actions?
            Ready. A united Jerusalem is the heart and soul of our people. And this is more important than any piece of paper on a peace agreement.
            Shironay! This is a Zionist ideology and in Jerusalem the Zionists of Israel and the whole world will not stop!

            I take back my words about Vicki. Read the wiki. Start by defining racism.


            PS
            1. Krabik
              Krabik 8 December 2017 20: 43 New
              +1
              Gaining blacks for war with the Arabs?

              Smart step, you will not say anything.

              And even better, as in Ukraine, recruit Arabs for war with the Arabs!
              1. Slavon2000
                Slavon2000 9 December 2017 11: 28 New
                +2
                If you were smart, you would first know that ...
                Firstly, this is the tribe of Israel who lived in Ethiopia, for many centuries they were deep-believing Jews who, unlike Soviet Jews, knew all the traditions and the Torah
                Secondly, Ethiopians are not blacks .... it’s a pity this site has deteriorated .... when adequate people sat here and not upstarts
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              1. Slavon2000
                Slavon2000 9 December 2017 11: 25 New
                +3
                The abomination is that people like you sit a thousand miles from Israel
                Not knowing any realities of this country, they believe that they have some kind of moral right to compare Jews with the Nazis .....
                What do you have nothing to do there in Russia?
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 10 December 2017 13: 22 New
                  +1
                  Did you see a comparison somewhere in my comment? I just wrote that the respected professor is "flip-ordinary" .. you re-read my comment! And there is no such word "thousand"!
            3. seal78
              seal78 9 December 2017 08: 19 New
              +2
              Eeee .... And what, racism applies only to blacks?
              1. forty-eighth
                forty-eighth 9 December 2017 10: 28 New
                +1
                Asians yet
            4. Slavon2000
              Slavon2000 9 December 2017 11: 32 New
              +1
              If I were you, I would cease useless correspondence with her .... do you think that the intelligent answers on your part are worthy of this heresy that she carries here ?!
          2. Slavon2000
            Slavon2000 9 December 2017 11: 22 New
            +1
            Oh, who would say ...
        2. dSK
          dSK 8 December 2017 18: 35 New
          +3
          Quote: Shiryonay
          peace agreement papers

          25 thousand goy slaves for each Ashkenazi Jew.
          " goy is the designation of the pagan (non-Jew in Judaism, is found in everyday speech in the meaning of “Gentile”)"
          1. dSK
            dSK 8 December 2017 19: 03 New
            +1
            The second coming of Jesus Christ will put everything in its place.
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 9 December 2017 12: 09 New
            -1
            Quote: dsk
            Quote: Shiryonay
            peace agreement papers

            25 thousand goy slaves for each Ashkenazi Jew.
            " goy is the designation of the pagan (non-Jew in Judaism, is found in everyday speech in the meaning of “Gentile”)"

            Like 1200, and not slaves, but disciples, and not among the Ashkenazi, but among the Jew in general ... this is after the coming of the Messiah
    3. siberalt
      siberalt 8 December 2017 13: 42 New
      +1
      Do not think that Trump did this spontaneously. There Kushner and the Jewish lobby thought out everything. Mnogohodovochka, however. But whether the result they expect will be another question. winked
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 8 December 2017 19: 27 New
      +3
      Quote: zzdimk
      Political multifrenia - to his clinic!

      What peacemaker is he to the devil? By this recognition, on the contrary, he threw firewood into the fire of the Middle East, and if you call a spade a spade, then splashed a can of gasoline there ... A mattress geek.
      1. Krabik
        Krabik 8 December 2017 20: 46 New
        0
        How do you personally do not like the recognition of the capital?

        For me it’s us, that is, the Russian Federation, some pluses.

        But I read smart people like you and I can’t understand. what are you dissatisfied with ...
  2. Amurets
    Amurets 8 December 2017 06: 23 New
    +4
    Mr. Trump has declared himself as a peacemaker. Apparently, Mr. Obama's laurels do not give rest. And if Obama didn’t really get along with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu, then Trump has everything in the openwork. At least, his peacekeeping fervor in Tel Aviv was appreciated. Sorry, in Jerusalem.

    No. This is the answer for Syria and the defeat of ISIS, and the creation of a new hotbed of tension in the Middle East. Only Israel has not yet understood what he has plunged into.
    1. forty-eighth
      forty-eighth 8 December 2017 08: 54 New
      +3
      Israel has considered Jerusalem the de facto capital since 1980. I think they understand everything very well.
  3. aszzz888
    aszzz888 8 December 2017 06: 36 New
    +4
    Trump himself believes that his decision will bring to the region ... peace.

    ... and who after that will say that he is a smart person? ... an ordinary messenger with a clown motive ... bully
  4. kudma
    kudma 8 December 2017 06: 46 New
    +3
    Here is the United States and threw Israel! Let's see what happens next. I think nothing good for Israel.
  5. Scopolamine
    Scopolamine 8 December 2017 06: 53 New
    +3
    Wait a moment, Nityanyahu will still eat Trump bald. Neither Bush, nor Clinton, nor Sarkozy, nor Obama could tolerate this madman. American veterans wrote a good sketch about this

    https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/12/07/bill-cli
    nton-to-netanyahu-who-the-fuck-does-he-think-he-i
    s/

    As Clinton said when Nitanyahu opened his mouth there was no certainty that he was telling the truth. I can’t translate the rest of Clinton’s words, otherwise they will be banned for someone else’s mat. Who cares yourself translate. Trump is not sure that he will last long enough.
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 8 December 2017 21: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: Scopolamine
      Wait a moment, Nityanyahu will still eat Trump bald. Neither Bush, nor Clinton, nor Sarkozy, nor Obama could tolerate this madman. American veterans wrote a good sketch about this

      https://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/12/07/bill-cli
      nton-to-netanyahu-who-the-fuck-does-he-think-he-i
      s/

      As Clinton said when Nitanyahu opened his mouth there was no certainty that he was telling the truth. I can’t translate the rest of Clinton’s words, otherwise they will be banned for someone else’s mat. Who cares yourself translate. Trump is not sure that he will last long enough.

      Clinton is not an indicator, he was remembered only as the only president, after which the oval office can be renamed "oral."
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 8 December 2017 07: 09 New
    +4
    Trump has already ordered the Department of State "to begin preparations for the transfer of the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem"
    All is correct. It is just necessary to increase the possibility of carrying out a terrorist attack against the embassy several times, in order to then bomb with a "clear conscience" in several more countries accused of committing a terrorist attack.
  7. Aldmith
    Aldmith 8 December 2017 07: 52 New
    +8
    True reality is that Crimea is Russian. Did he realize that?
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 8 December 2017 09: 48 New
      +8
      Crimea - Russian, Jerusalem - Jewish. True reality.
      1. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 8 December 2017 10: 22 New
        +5
        Well, we then took our own without blood, and you vryatli take away even without blood hi
        1. alexsipin
          alexsipin 8 December 2017 20: 48 New
          +4
          Quote: Siberia 9444
          Well, we then took our own without blood, and you vryatli take away even without blood

          We took our back in '67. It is only about recognition.
          1. Siberia 9444
            Siberia 9444 15 December 2017 21: 22 New
            0
            If only in dreams laughing
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 8 December 2017 08: 19 New
    +3
    Trump "realized the reality" and recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Israel. Trump countered the whole world!
    .. Trump, got scared and took his confession back ... Yes, he spat ... The whole world is in the fist of the USA .. Empires of "evil", as one of the authors wrote in VO, in his comment, "under the bloody red" flag , no longer exists ... There is no one to look back at ...
  9. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 09: 54 New
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    In short. Washington decided to force Israel to pull the chestnuts out of the fire with the hands of the Zionist Jews themselves from Israel!

    ----------------------------------
    Hmm, you wrote it right. Only the “Washington” behind Trump also consists of Ashkenazi like his son-in-law Kushner, only American Jews consider themselves more thoroughbred. And here, American Jews are pushing the Middle East to such rash steps.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 8 December 2017 11: 59 New
      +3
      m, you wrote it right. Only the “Washington” behind Trump also consists of Ashkenazi like his son-in-law Kushner, only American Jews consider themselves more thoroughbred. And now, American Jews are pushing the Middle East to such rash steps
      And where are yours, for example, who fled from the Bolsheviks from the white emigration now, there are no Bolsheviks, but why don’t the emigrants of that emigration help Russia as much as they are in the USA, France. And what do you want the American Jews against Israel to do, you better tell me about Radchenkov he de Russian and betrayed his homeland
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 8 December 2017 18: 47 New
        +2
        Lex.
        you better tell me about Radchenkov he de RUSSIAN
        I doubt that Rodchenkov is ethnic Russian. Honestly, Rodchenkov is definitely not like a Russian! In my opinion, there is no smell of a Slav.
        1. Sergey Cojocari
          Sergey Cojocari 8 December 2017 19: 41 New
          +6
          Not a blue-eyed blond? And the shape of the skull is not that?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 8 December 2017 23: 35 New
            0
            Sergey Cojocari
            Not a blue-eyed blond? And the shape of the skull is not that?
            Yes, where does it?
            Here you are, see for yourself!
            In the photo on the right is Rodchenkov, and on the left are Russians Mutko, Zhukov and another with a Slavic appearance.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 8 December 2017 23: 38 New
              +1
              Only mom alone probably knows who is really Rodchenkov by nationality. And so the name, it seems, is Russian. But it’s difficult to recognize Russian in him - the type is not the same.
              For example, if the police wanted him, then it would be unlikely that the police would say that this man was of Slavic appearance, that he was Russian.
  10. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 8 December 2017 09: 58 New
    +3
    Trump has already ordered the Department of State to “begin preparations for moving the embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem,” noting that his decision will allow the State Department to begin hiring architects and construction contractors. The new embassy trump considers "an excellent contribution to peace"

    It remains to be announced that the new US embassy will be located on Temple Mount - and Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize is in his pocket. smile
  11. Shahno
    Shahno 8 December 2017 09: 59 New
    +7
    First, Trump simply called white white. Secondly, someone believes that the whole world is several European countries (Czech Republic minus, they are not the world), Turkey, Jordan (CA, Egypt is also not the world), and half of the African countries generally suck (10 African leaders have already met with Netanyahu for details on recognition of Jerusalem), Philippines are preparing to support the decision.
    It's just that someone does not have enough strength to admit that their plans for a peaceful settlement of the Palestinian issue have failed, there is so much dough, reputation.
    And what is the Kremlin afraid of, my assumptions. Trump's reinforcements on this wave ....
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 8 December 2017 10: 24 New
      +3
      A fig to recognize! repeat your government did not recognize Crimea as Russian request
      1. alexsipin
        alexsipin 8 December 2017 21: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Siberia 9444
        A fig to recognize! repeat your government did not recognize Crimea as Russian request

        We do not need your recognition very much, we are oriented to the West and the USA. And your world is Syria and Iran.
        1. Siberia 9444
          Siberia 9444 15 December 2017 21: 25 New
          0
          Just like yours fellow
  12. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 8 December 2017 10: 18 New
    +1
    Zotek whispered in his ear lol Consciously, it’s not a heifer on the catwalk to drive in swimsuits
  13. Shahno
    Shahno 8 December 2017 10: 20 New
    +5
    As Sisi expressed cold support ... Mahmoud Abbas mumbled, his eyes downcast. And he made mistakes in words. Author about this? Sometimes one wonders at the power of the propaganda word.
  14. MadCat
    MadCat 8 December 2017 10: 33 New
    +5
    That there "the whole world" thinks not to give a damn about it, since the reality is that Jerusalem is the single and indivisible capital of Israel and this is a fact.
    "The whole world," according to Hitler, also thought that Russia should be destroyed, nevertheless, some who were still against it, weren't they? ...
  15. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 10: 57 New
    +8
    Quote: Shahno
    First, Trump simply called white white.

    -------------------------
    If you call "white white", then Russia is the territory of the entire former USSR. Let's start with this, and we will not give Jewish and propaganda tricks new names for quasi-states such as post-Soviet republics that cannot live in any form without the Russian economy.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 8 December 2017 11: 01 New
      +8
      I agree with you. But still this is more of your problem.
    2. svp67
      svp67 8 December 2017 11: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: Altona
      If you call "white white", then Russia is the territory of the entire former USSR.
      What are you talking about? The USSR, first of all, is the UNION of the Republics, of which there are only three native Russian, and at times the SIXTEEN Republics were part of the union ...
      And even if you recall the Russian Empire, then reading through the title of the last Russian Emperor, you see how many such territories were included in it
      .... emperor and autocrat All-Russian, Moscow, Kiev, Vladimir, Novgorod; king of Kazan, king of Astrakhan, king of Poland, king of Siberia, king of Tauric Chersonesos, king of Georgia; Sovereign Pskov and Grand Duke Smolensky, Lithuanian, Volyn, Podolsky and Finland; Prince of Estland, Livonia, Courland and Semigalsky, Samogitsky, Bialystok, Korelsky, Tver, Ugra, Perm, Vyatka, Bulgaria and others; the sovereign and the Grand Duke of Novgorod of the lower lands, Chernigov, Ryazan, Polotsky, Rostov, Yaroslavl, Belozersky, Udora, Obdorsky, Kondi, Vitebsk, Mstislavsky and all the northern countries; and the sovereign of Iversky, Kartalinsky and Kabardinsky lands and regions of Armenians; Cherkasy and Gorsky princes and other hereditary sovereign and possessor, sovereign of Turkestan; Norwegian heir, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein, Stormarn, Dietmarsensky and Oldenburg and other, and other, and other
  16. svp67
    svp67 8 December 2017 11: 04 New
    +3
    Trump himself believes that his decision will bring to the region ... peace. The statement is more than controversial.
    If you do not proceed from the old American truth that "a good Arab is a dead Arab"
  17. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 11: 43 New
    +5
    Quote: Shahno
    I agree with you. But still this is more of your problem.

    ------------------------------
    For me personally, it doesn't matter where your capital is and what Trump says. For one thing, please, don’t scatter anywhere else from Israel! hi
  18. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 11: 45 New
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    Are you talking about?

    -------------------------
    I mean that our territory should be larger than today.
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 8 December 2017 12: 01 New
      +4
      I mean that our territory should be larger than today.
      Why don’t you tell me about Turkey, she shot down a plane for you, and you sell it to her and sell a van to 400, like the Arabs, go and live with them
  19. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 8 December 2017 11: 49 New
    +5
    it is interesting to know how the Ishilovites will react? if they specifically shut up the Amero-Jewish project
    1. alexsipin
      alexsipin 8 December 2017 21: 16 New
      +4
      Quote: gafarovsafar
      it is interesting to know how the Ishilovites will react? if they specifically shut up the Amero-Jewish project

      If the Papuans are silent in the new Guinea, then they are also in the same project.
    2. seal78
      seal78 9 December 2017 08: 24 New
      0
      So you still have doubts?
  20. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 8 December 2017 11: 59 New
    +2
    even as the peace prize shines, not one or two will be given
  21. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 13: 21 New
    +4
    Quote: Lex.
    Why don’t you tell me about Turkey, she shot down a plane for you, and you sell it to her and sell a van to 400, like the Arabs, go and live with them

    --------------------------
    Yesterday I wrote comments about the "patriot" Putin. If we consider the policy of the Russian Federation as the Wishlist of Gazprom and Rosneft, then the whole puzzle is very easy to add. Turkey is needed as a transit territory for pumping Russian gas to the South of Europe. Everything! Therefore, Turkey can shoot down at least how many of our aircraft, Gazprom does not care.
  22. Altona
    Altona 8 December 2017 14: 35 New
    +5
    Quote: Lex.
    And where are yours, for example, who fled from the Bolsheviks from the white emigration now, there are no Bolsheviks, but why don’t the emigrants of that emigration help Russia as much as they are in the USA, France. And what do you want the American Jews against Israel to do, you better tell me about Radchenkov he de Russian and betrayed his homeland

    -------------------------------
    1) White emigration is no longer ours, it is French and American citizens. They should not help us.
    2) As for the traitors and so on. Jews are a divided people. And you are easy to manipulate. The rich will always manipulate the poor. Proceed from this thesis. The rich Jews of the United States are manipulating the poor in Israel.
    Do not know how to make accents, do not try to comment.
  23. Height
    Height 8 December 2017 16: 05 New
    +1
    This is the same opinion that the opinion of removing Lenin’s body from the mausoleum. Everything has its time, but not now!
  24. nikolaev
    nikolaev 8 December 2017 16: 20 New
    0
    "Realized the reality" - found the bottom in the Middle East. Another Witness
  25. Cat Marquis
    Cat Marquis 8 December 2017 16: 25 New
    +9
    No matter how I relate to the Jews, I have to admit that Jerusalem is the ancient capital of Israel. "Palestinians" - in general, does not exist as a nation. Those who are called "Palestinians" are ordinary Arabs who came to the lands of Palestine after the fall of Israel. These are realities. Jerusalem has always been Jewish, it is the same as with Crimea in Russia. To be honest, for a long time it was necessary to recognize Jerusalem as the capital of Israel.
    1. Height
      Height 8 December 2017 16: 43 New
      +6
      Deflection counted. Take the pie. I want a reasonable comment.
    2. Height
      Height 8 December 2017 18: 15 New
      +1
      What are you saying? Like Crimea to Russia!
      UN in Crimea, which recognizes the Russian occupation of the peninsula.

      In addition to Israel, the project was also supported by the USA, Canada, France, Great Britain, Ukraine, Turkey, Switzerland and other countries. Iran, North Korea, India, Kazakhstan, Russia and others voted against the resolution. Many Arab countries, including Algeria, Bahrain, Egypt and Jordan, abstained.

      Original news InoTV:
      https://russian.rt.com/inotv/2016-11-22/nrg-Maari

      v-Izrail-priznal-Krim

      Crimea, upon liberation, is saturated with Russian blood! No need for stupid statements about the Crimea.
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  26. Zina389
    Zina389 8 December 2017 17: 59 New
    +3
    "In the Russian Federation, they declared their readiness to transfer embassies to Jerusalem. Such information is published by the Izvestia publication, citing a statement by Russian diplomats.
    But the transfer of diplomatic missions to West and East Jerusalem will be possible only when Israel and the Palestinians agree, or at least positive changes will appear in resolving the conflict.
    “Russia recognized the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of a future Palestinian state along with the recognition of West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel,” the statement said. "

    Thus, the Russian Foreign Ministry practically agrees with Trump. Only the actual transfer of the embassy is associated with progress in the negotiations, thus showing Israel a small carrot. Trump shows a big carrot. But no one is giving anything so far, because it can take years to build this embassy, ​​and negotiations seem to be starting in the near future. But the Palestinians apparently want to abandon them, and in Israel there are no donkeys to give land for carrot promises.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 8 December 2017 18: 34 New
      +2
      Zina389
      “Russia recognized the status of East Jerusalem as the capital of a future Palestinian state along with the recognition of West Jerusalem as the capital of Israel,” the statement said. "
      Zinovy! Are you a smart man? Hope so! Why then do you not understand the meaning of what is written? Namely, Russia recognized precisely the SEPARATION of Jerusalem between Israel and Palestine, and precisely in the BARRIERS divided by agreement between them, and did not surrender the Palestinian part of Jerusalem to Israel! For this is Israel’s further annexation of Arab lands! Russia did not need to intervene in this matter at all.
      Thus, the Russian Foreign Ministry practically agrees with Trump.
      You absolutely misunderstood the WORLD of the Russian Federation! You give out wishful thinking.
      Listen to Jacob Kedmi in the comments above! And then you will understand what Trump’s provocation is!
      1. Zina389
        Zina389 8 December 2017 19: 22 New
        +1
        Jacob Kedmi is an old Zionist.

        /// A professional intelligence officer [4], under diplomatic cover since 1977, worked at Nativa, the Israeli special service that was involved in evacuating Jews to Israel from countries from which they were forbidden to travel and from hot spots. The activities of Nativ under the leadership of Kedmi are associated with the most massive repatriation of Jews from the USSR to Israel, with the relocation of more than 1 million people who became part of the social phenomenon of Big Aliyah. Repatriates from the USSR and the post-Soviet space significantly increased Israel's GDP and its defense capability, and also created a social base for Russian-speaking Israeli politicians.
        In the 1980-1990s, Kedmi was an influential statesman, who largely determined the policy of Israel. In 1996-1999 he was a key member of the Israeli secret services committee under the prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu [i] [/ i] on the problems of the armed forces of Iran ///
        He was once a big supporter of the current prime minister. Now long since retired, with everyone in a mess, he has no influence in Israel, they only listen to him on Russian television.
        On the topic, all US presidents promised the same thing, but in the end they got scared, but Trump did not. As for the Arabs, they will never calm down, they do not need Trump for this.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 9 December 2017 03: 26 New
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          Zina389
          Jacob Kedmi is an old Zionist.
          And what from this? I can independently distinguish grains from him from the chaff. For example, I can clearly see when Kedmi does not agree on something in his analysis of the situation in the world. Yes, Israel does not betray Kedmi and will never betray. And that is his right. That's why he is a citizen of Israel. But such things - backlogs - are extremely rare for him. Yakov Kedmi speaks very competently - logically and as objectively as possible. He is an extremely intelligent man, a high-level professional diplomat, harmless, friendly, and even very charming. I have had a lot of such Jewish acquaintances in my life, especially among teachers at the school and university. And always we had the best relationship. I have always been their beloved and best student, an excellent student. They gave me good knowledge. I have something to respect them for.
          So I have a normal attitude towards Jacob Kedmi.
  27. Anatoly Pisman
    Anatoly Pisman 8 December 2017 19: 23 New
    +2
    so far the war being waged, not by Trump, but by Putin, and it is happening, not in the Middle East, but in the Donbas, and here in Israel, everything is completely peaceful, why, because you can’t argue with reality, and Jerusalem, a long time ago ceased to be in the status of some kind of undefined gtrod according to international concepts, but in the full real capital of the state of Izril, and this is a reality that everyone has to put up with
    1. Hottabych
      Hottabych 8 December 2017 22: 27 New
      +3
      You, of course, know better from there who is waging war in the Donbass! hi
  28. Mikhail Zubkov
    Mikhail Zubkov 8 December 2017 19: 24 New
    +3
    Either Israel has framed the United States, or, conversely, the United States is Israel. In any case, all the Arab-Israeli accords from Camp David from the time of US President Carter are Kaput. Very good Egypt and the rest of the Arab world will wake up in time. The riddle - why does Israel need new wars? For the United States, they are in line - the military-industrial complex must be fed constantly, but it is more profitable for Israelis to live peacefully.
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  30. Twodi
    Twodi 8 December 2017 19: 25 New
    +1
    A bad world is better than a good war. On the one hand, this is at hand for us, the United States is undermining its authority, on the other, the Middle East is so warmed to the limit ...
  31. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 8 December 2017 19: 30 New
    +8
    The day will come and Trump "realizes the reality" and recognizes the Crimea belonging to Russia. Trump will protest the whole world! All zaorut what it is, how is it ??? !!! This is a violation of everything and everyone! Squeeze out right on a bare place, but in broad daylight at the nearest neighbor peninsula the size of an entire Israel !!! But what does that mean to you? Yes, absolutely nothing. As if this is so important to you. Of course it's nice. But not more. You already know that your Crimea.
    In the meantime, it should be remembered that the capital of Israel is Jerusalem, (which is not Tel Aviv, it was never). And not only the capital of the State of Israel, but the Eternal capital of Eternal Israel. And it is important for us. And not the recognition of Trump and the mad howl of the rest of the world. And a certain part of this crazy world around us does not know how to react. Break relations with the United States - zapadlo. Do not respond - you can not. Why not? So it is necessary to break with Israel. Jews, as always, are to blame. But it is even funnier to hear about the dangers of ending the "peace process." Who saw this process? Where is he? What is expressed? But it is necessary to scare. But as we say in the Middle East: “The dogs bark and the caravan moves on.” hi
  32. tforik
    tforik 8 December 2017 19: 52 New
    0
    Trump will make Russia great! You just need to use his mistakes. Business man, but he is not a politician nichrome)
  33. seal78
    seal78 8 December 2017 20: 01 New
    +1
    Disagree with Trump's decision Prime Minister Great Britain Theresa May, who stated that the British Embassy will remain in Tel Aviv, chancellor Germany Angela Merkel and french Macron
    it's gorgeous)))
  34. turbris
    turbris 8 December 2017 20: 09 New
    +3
    Well what can we say about Trump, he just shows who is the boss in the world, he sneezed at everyone else. The USA is a hegemon in this world, and whatever they do is in American interests, which means it’s right. It’s just that all the others began to forget about it, something about the ally and common interests were unbalanced.
  35. Navigator Basov
    Navigator Basov 8 December 2017 20: 18 New
    0
    I wonder what is the special meaning of putting on a yermolka (bale) by non-Jews (who openly profess a religion different from Judaism) or similar gestures? Trump respected them so much, or what? He became a Jew for a while? And he also cut off the foreskin for a while? And not only Trump, many have suffered and are suffering such nonsense, and Putin, all the other first and not first faces of different states.
    1. Tramp1812
      Tramp1812 8 December 2017 23: 02 New
      +3
      The Wailing Wall, the same symbol of Israel, as the royal palace in Bangkok. Official delegations and heads of state visit diplomatic protocol certain symbolic places during official visits. There are traditions: for Thais - to close their knees, for Jews to cover their heads with Kipa approaching the Wailing Wall. Otherwise, this is non-compliance with the protocol. In Moscow, when laying flowers to the eternal flame, participants in delegations and heads of state come up bare-headed. But this does not surprise you .....
      1. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 9 December 2017 13: 50 New
        +1
        To observe Jewish traditions in special cases, you can cover your head with any headgear, yermolka (bale) has a special meaning for them, they themselves lower this value. Many simply have traditions, but among Jews these traditions are more closely associated with faith and have the status of unspoken law. Therefore, it is strange to me how the Jews themselves generally admit this, but they do not just admit that they are even glad about it: look, the heads of different states are almost Jews (or temporary Jews). This kind of unfortunate situation turns out like an almost pregnant woman.
  36. gen50
    gen50 8 December 2017 20: 51 New
    +4
    Why was the whole world not outraged when Transjordan occupied Palestinian territory?
    In 1967, it was not Israel that attacked Transjordan, but seven countries with Transjordan attacked Israel.
    The USSR occupied the territory of Finland, choking off Vyborg from it. Kaliningrad is also an occupied territory.
    Jerusalem was never the capital of any other country than Israel. In this city lived a Jew 4000 years. Arabs came there from Egypt, Syria and Transjordan, such a nation of "Palestinians" never existed. She came up with to destroy Israel.
    1. A. Privalov
      A. Privalov 8 December 2017 21: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: gen50
      Why was the whole world not outraged when Transjordan occupied Palestinian territory?
      In 1967, it was not Israel that attacked Transjordan, but seven countries with Transjordan attacked Israel.
      The USSR occupied the territory of Finland, choking off Vyborg from it. Kaliningrad is also an occupied territory.
      Jerusalem was never the capital of any other country than Israel. In this city lived a Jew 4000 years. Arabs came there from Egypt, Syria and Transjordan, such a nation of "Palestinians" never existed. She came up with to destroy Israel.

      Not in 1967, but in 1948. hi
    2. Fedalex
      Fedalex 8 December 2017 21: 59 New
      +3
      About Kaliningrad - just “killed”! wassat I think that fairy tales about the occupation of Königsberg would be really liked by all sorts of Hitlers and other Rosenbergs and Eichmanns fool Are you definitely a Jew ?!
  37. alexsipin
    alexsipin 8 December 2017 20: 55 New
    +4
    Quote: Lex.
    m, you wrote it right. Only the “Washington” behind Trump also consists of Ashkenazi like his son-in-law Kushner, only American Jews consider themselves more thoroughbred. And now, American Jews are pushing the Middle East to such rash steps
    And where are yours, for example, who fled from the Bolsheviks from the white emigration now, there are no Bolsheviks, but why don’t the emigrants of that emigration help Russia as much as they are in the USA, France. And what do you want the American Jews against Israel to do, you better tell me about Radchenkov he de Russian and betrayed his homeland

    It has long been noticed that Russians abroad try to stop being Russian as soon as possible. And Jews, on the contrary, have been trying for centuries to maintain their traditions.
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  39. nikvic46
    nikvic46 8 December 2017 21: 23 New
    +3
    Any Trump step for Russia is like a bolt from the blue. And it shouldn’t be like this, since the President of the United States is not sitting in the toilet
    He decided to make Jerusalem the capital of Israel. It’s not for nothing that the American official joked that Washington should be moved to Tel Aviv. In my opinion, a table has been laid for the big game in the Middle East. The contradictions between Congress and Trump are just the beginning of the game to confuse politicians. U.S. main step is threat to Iran. Iran is right
    does without responding to trump's steps. Let other Arab countries condemn Trump's steps in Israel.
  40. pav-pon1972
    pav-pon1972 8 December 2017 21: 40 New
    +1
    And what's the difference, what is the capital in Israel?
  41. 7gor
    7gor 8 December 2017 23: 19 New
    +1
    Merikatos’s nature is like that! Like a bone in the throat, to spite everyone! Wait a while, and your turn will come when there are statements that New York, the capital of Afghanistan. I’ll hopefully live wink
  42. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 9 December 2017 00: 56 New
    +1
    He did everything right. They reassured daish *, Iraq, for its part, reassured, the world is not needed by the Elven and most beautiful country in the USA. We are the same Mordor and sow war everywhere. I won’t be surprised if they say, and how they say that refugees went to Elven Europe .. Mordor is to blame. And then Sauron’s leg from the Kremlin in Jerusalem, I won’t be surprised.
  43. Vadim Golubkov
    Vadim Golubkov 9 December 2017 01: 01 New
    0
    Quote: 7gor
    Merikatos’s nature is like that! Like a bone in the throat, to spite everyone! Wait a while, and your turn will come when there are statements that New York, the capital of Afghanistan. I’ll hopefully live wink


    to crap, their task.
  44. LAWNER
    LAWNER 9 December 2017 05: 42 New
    0
    Y. Kedmi is similar to GDP. Sometimes this will wrap up .... A man without emotions .... Although, maybe all the scouts are ???
    1. Hunter
      Hunter 9 December 2017 09: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: LAWNER
      Y. Kedmi is similar to GDP. Sometimes this will wrap up .... A man without emotions .... Although, maybe all the scouts are ???

      He speaks correctly in Russia, but in the eyes of a cunning man ... Weather vane!
  45. 72jora72
    72jora72 9 December 2017 08: 27 New
    +3
    Because you reason wrong! I want to understand why.
    Well, with public disciplines, your professor is clearly in trouble! And do not be offended by me! You do not own philosophical methods! Therefore, you are jammed in the logical content of such concepts.
    Our professor is a great specialist in throwing shit on a fan, in this he is incomparable.
  46. Hunter
    Hunter 9 December 2017 09: 19 New
    +2
    Trump knew perfectly well that he would follow his statement! Well done and very on time all this .. Russia at least a little rest.!
  47. Vladimir Amelin
    Vladimir Amelin 9 December 2017 09: 53 New
    +1
    A gift for son-in-law.
    1. Shahno
      Shahno 9 December 2017 10: 04 New
      +1
      No ... it's a son-in-law's father-in-law gift.
  48. datura23
    datura23 9 December 2017 23: 55 New
    0
    Trump - well done, did what he promised and what he should have. Jerusalem is the capital of Israel, the Temple on the Mountain instead of Al-Aqsa, the Second Coming and all. Court.
  49. Professor
    Professor 10 December 2017 08: 01 New
    +1
    Quote: Tatiana
    Professor 8.12.2017. 19: 50
    I can draw a thousand of these fakes. You have just sat down in a puddle bringing such creativity.
    Professor! Well, why should I repeat myself when my colleague already answered you for me there ?! yes And he has already commented on our controversy.
    Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 09: 06 ↑
    “Russia is a conquered power. She lost the titanic struggle. And to say “it was not Russia, but the Soviet Union” means to flee from reality. It was Russia, called the Soviet Union. She challenged the USA. She was defeated. Now there is no need to fuel illusions about the great power of Russia. It’s necessary to discourage such a way of thinking ... Russia will be fragmented and under guardianship. ”

    "A new world order with US hegemony is being created against Russia, at the expense of Russia and on the ruins of Russia."

    From the book of Zbigniew Brzezinski “Choice. World domination or global leadership ”(Moscow, International Relations, 2010, p. 127):
    Ma'am, do not pay attention to cheap trolling, It is common for ignoramuses to question other judgments .....
    And what does the word of Brzezinski? Is there, no? Their meaning is realized with great success .... Now in the Olympic movement ...
    See - https://topwar.ru/131286-v-phenchhan-pod-belym-fl
    agom.html # comment-id-7635694

    Lady, why are you merging again? You have 2 screenshot.
  50. -Ac-
    -Ac- 18 January 2019 13: 33 New
    0
    Quote: Professor
    I have a philosophy at the university was 5

    I would definitely fail all the exams ...

    For