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Erdogan announced the need to revise the peace treaty from 1923,

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Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan made another statement, which caused serious concern in NATO. According to Erdogan, it's time to revise the Treaty of Lausanne. This is an agreement in which, in particular, the details of the definition of the sea borders between Turkey and Greece and the ownership of Greece of certain islands in the Aegean Sea are spelled out.


In addition, in the Lausanne Peace Treaty of 1923, the borders between Turkey and such countries as Iraq and Syria are defined. Recall that earlier Syrian Kurds reported in the media that the Turkish army moved the border infrastructure into the Syrian territory by several hundred meters.

Erdogan announced the need to revise the peace treaty from 1923,


According to Recep Erdogan, "Greece may be annoyed with some issues, but today we need to sit down at the negotiating table and discuss everything." Erdogan notes that the Treaty of Lausanne is not beneficial for Turkey.

Erdogan does not specify which changes of the Treaty of Lausanne should be discussed, but adds that all disputes "can easily be resolved." At the same time, the notion of the “continental shelf” was mentioned in the statement of the Turkish president. He writes about it RIA News.

In Greece, they responded to Erdogan’s statement, noting that bridges should be erected between countries, and not to build walls of misunderstanding.
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  1. Herculesic
    Herculesic 7 December 2017 07: 02
    34
    Does he clearly want Istanbul to become Constantinople again? ?? We do not mind, we are only for !!!
    1. Logall
      Logall 7 December 2017 07: 11
      19
      Vitalievich, I agree:
      The Greeks must not be offended! They are Orthodox!
      1. novel66
        novel66 7 December 2017 07: 23
        49
        and let the Ararat be returned to the Armenians, otherwise they will be sad beyond measure, if only for justice!
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 7 December 2017 07: 26
          10
          About the Kurds! Kurds have been forgotten! They also need Kurdistan!
        2. newcomer
          newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 28
          11
          Roman, welcome. Ararat alone will not be taken off, if that.
          1. novel66
            novel66 7 December 2017 07: 34
            +9
            Garik, the kindest! hi they will want to return Bulgaria to the bosom, so to speak
            1. newcomer
              newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 44
              55
              tired of these weak-willed little brothers. for that matter, let them offer us something for which we cannot refuse. and these gratuitous losses of our army for the sake of the little brothers, who later superiorly spit on us, are sick of it.
              1. novel66
                novel66 7 December 2017 07: 51
                12
                strongly agree! But what can they offer us? except brotherly love, from which it is already sore, as you rightly noted!
                1. newcomer
                  newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 54
                  10
                  I would have to think. let them be part of the Russian Federation and plow on our economy, unless that is so. their location is good.
                  1. novel66
                    novel66 7 December 2017 07: 59
                    10
                    cognac "pliska" will all of us be? drinks
                    1. newcomer
                      newcomer 7 December 2017 08: 06
                      +6
                      probably. just kidding of course. working hands, bayonets in the army, a quantitative rise in the population. I just don’t know what good they have left, except for the advantageous geography of the country.
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 7 December 2017 09: 24
                        +6
                        inspired by something
                        and everything will be repeated as before
                        rod Turks ours hold the pass
                        Bulgarian people, hope for you
                        so that he doesn’t fight against us again ...
                    2. SOF
                      SOF 7 December 2017 08: 29
                      +1
                      ... and brandy "Slynchev Bryag"
                      And ketchup ... Bulgarian. If the factory has not yet collapsed.
                      1. novel66
                        novel66 7 December 2017 09: 25
                        +5
                        I'm not sure about brandy, I sorted it out somehow, it was so shitty, it was only after mead
                  2. Sergej1972
                    Sergej1972 7 December 2017 11: 31
                    +2
                    Why do we need millions of citizens who have nothing to do with the history of our country, with a completely different mentality? No matter what they say, but the Serbs and the Bulgarians who do not like Serbs from the Russians are actually very different.
                  3. Nick
                    Nick 8 December 2017 12: 05
                    0
                    Quote: newbie
                    I would have to think. let them be part of the Russian Federation and plow on our economy, unless that is so. their location is good.

                    To do this, they will first have to leave the European Union and NATO. If they agree to this, then we, I think, will not mind ... wink
                  4. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 8 December 2017 12: 25
                    +2
                    Quote: newbie
                    I would have to think. let them be part of the Russian Federation and plow on our economy

                    GREECE? !!!!
                    FELL? !!!!!!
                2. Dimontius
                  Dimontius 7 December 2017 08: 41
                  +6
                  let them at least boycott the Olympics, as the founders, and then recognize Crimea as Russian territory!
              2. cosmos-PS
                cosmos-PS 7 December 2017 08: 04
                +4
                Right. Let's not forget that our little brothers are European sneaky. Greece is not casual in NATO. Therefore, it will smell fried, they immediately remember Russia, but give them a cookie, and not provide help.
              3. alatanas
                alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 13
                +2
                And people like you, the 'traitor bros', have bothered us.
                Read the story in more detail, and you won’t be stoned.
                Victory Turks secured Comrade Lenin helping Turkey.
                Reference: Greek-Turkish war 1919-1923 g. - google please hi
              4. Starley.ura
                Starley.ura 12 December 2017 15: 47
                +1
                When they were asked a question either with us (i.e. with NATO or Europe) or it would be like in Yugoslavia, we somehow were not in a hurry to help them with an alternative choice. And so the common people, even in Greece (we sold them to the British in Yalta), feel very warm about the Russians and Russia. You’ll go to Bulgaria and Greece, have a drink with the locals and you will understand everything. They have long learned to separate our state and rulers from our people, but we somehow do not.
            2. Lyuba Myshkina
              Lyuba Myshkina 9 December 2017 16: 13
              0
              Nothing, Uncle Sam will protect Bulgaria, I hope Russia has the intelligence not to step on the old rusty rake and fit in with the traitors
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 7 December 2017 07: 27
        14
        Quote: Logall
        The Greeks must not be offended! They are Orthodox!

        WHY?!
        maybe Rossi should stop thinking about "bros" and think about their own interests? !!!!
        By the way, Orthodoxy in Greece did not prevent it from imposing sanctions against Russia

        p / s / I think that Erdogash discussed this issue with GDP
        1. hrych
          hrych 7 December 2017 12: 28
          +6
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          By the way, Orthodoxy in Greece did not prevent it from imposing sanctions against Russia

          Being in the NATO bloc says that during Ch, they must kill our people, prepare and train for this, and we in our flight missions provided for the destruction of Greek bases and cities. The Georgians are Orthodox, Ukrainians are Orthodox, Moldovans and Romanians are Orthodox, but this does not stop them from harming us and Orthodoxy is cunning for everyone am
          1. alatanas
            alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 31
            +3
            Not necessary! Example of the Second World War: before 05.09.1944, Bulgaria - an ally of the axis (Rome-Berlin-Tokyo) was in diplomatic relations with the USSR and did not fight with the USSR.
            PS respect those who respected you, long since, otherwise you will lose respect.,
            1. hrych
              hrych 8 December 2017 22: 39
              +1
              Quote: alatanas
              PS respect those who respected you, long since, otherwise you will lose respect.

              Well, if the missile systems are aimed at us from Romania, we reluctantly have to explode them with a nuclear charge, despite the fact that they respect us, co-religionists, etc. There is a purely military aspect, unfortunately. With respect, of course I agree and it is very sad when the Slavs are on the opposite side of the barricades, perhaps this will be corrected by the next generation. drinks
      3. Herculesic
        Herculesic 7 December 2017 07: 28
        +2
        Logall - Alexander hi Yes, and we have something to ask, and for what to demand an answer from the Sultan and to! sad
      4. aries2200
        aries2200 7 December 2017 08: 48
        +1
        Yes, let them fight ... they will refresh the blood ... Greeks are not Orthodox and they are in NATO ... and they do not recognize the legality of the referendum in the Crimea .... enemies hidden
        1. alatanas
          alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 19
          +4
          The Greeks have Orthodoxy in the constitution! Do not blame the nonsense - everyone who ... is more familiar with you will laugh. lol
      5. unignm
        unignm 7 December 2017 08: 50
        +1
        what words. run yourself to defend the Greeks? that the Greeks do not remember that we are Orthodox brothers
      6. Siberia 9444
        Siberia 9444 7 December 2017 08: 53
        +3
        And what is it that they are Orthodox request Russia is still clinging to them whether they are in the EU (NATO member) Turkey is also in NATO, and NATO is our enemy! Let each other figachat yes
        1. alatanas
          alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 22
          +3
          And Turkey is in your friends. And also a member of NATO.
      7. To be or not to be
        To be or not to be 7 December 2017 08: 56
        +2
        Greece and Turkey are NATO countries. That says it all !!!
      8. Overlock
        Overlock 7 December 2017 09: 05
        +2
        no Greeks, no Syrians, no Bulgarians
        to the list? Oh, yes, you can’t Sudanese (you need to build a base), you shouldn’t forget the Libyans yet! What money and to the detriment of what? Dear USSR, comrades?
      9. Retvizan 8
        Retvizan 8 7 December 2017 09: 12
        +5
        ... The Greeks must not be offended! They are Orthodox ...
        I am very touched by your naivety! And the Greeks probably said: "you can’t offend Russians! They are Orthodox" ... and they supported the EU sanctions against Russia ?!
      10. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 7 December 2017 10: 08
        +2
        Quote: Logall
        The Greeks must not be offended! They are Orthodox!

        Georgians and Khikhly are also Orthodox. Not a declaration of religion, relations are determined. And I didn’t notice that Greece Greece would have helped.
      11. xetai9977
        xetai9977 7 December 2017 12: 25
        +2
        "Does he want Istanbul to become Constantinople again?"
        Many tried to do this, but failed. Nor could the USSR at one time, which was much more powerful than today's Russia. So blah blah blah is not necessary .. The site is not a forum for fiction and idle talk.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 7 December 2017 21: 12
          0
          Quote: xetai9977
          Does he want Istanbul to become Constantinople again? "

          Tsargrad, aka Tsaritsino, aka Stalingrad, aka Volgograd.
          1. alatanas
            alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 34
            +1
            Tsarev Ford!
            Find where it is!
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 8 December 2017 23: 56
              0
              Quote: alatanas
              Tsarev Ford!
              Find where it is!

              In full africanus?
              1. novel66
                novel66 10 December 2017 08: 48
                +2
                why so cruel? Well, yes, problems with humor can’t be fixed
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      13. Esoteric
        Esoteric 8 December 2017 10: 12
        +1
        Quote: Logall
        Vitalievich, I agree:
        The Greeks must not be offended! They are Orthodox!

        RUSSIANS CAN’T BE OFFENDED, THEY ARE THE FRAME OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION !!!
    2. verner1967
      verner1967 7 December 2017 09: 03
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      We do not mind, we are only for !!!

      For small we do not see large. One has only to set a precedent for the revision of contracts, as we gradually get together and to Yalta with Potsdam. Do we need it? With the current anti-Russian hysteria of the West.
      1. Rakti-kali
        Rakti-kali 7 December 2017 10: 15
        +3
        Quote: verner1967
        and small we do not see large. One has only to set a precedent for the revision of contracts, as we gradually get together and to Yalta with Potsdam. Do we need it?

        But we did not start it! The collective West has long put a bolt on all treaties, "no more Yalta" at the UN by Powers has already sounded. And the West Helsinki Treaty has already been violated.
        1. verner1967
          verner1967 7 December 2017 21: 57
          0
          Quote: Rakti-Kali
          The West has long put a bolt on all contracts,

          and what territories did they take from us?
          1. Wreaper
            Wreaper 8 December 2017 13: 52
            +1
            And why is it that they will take our territories from us? xD we just have nothing to worry about here, but the Baltic states with Poland are worth it.
          2. Rakti-kali
            Rakti-kali 8 December 2017 19: 45
            0
            Quote: verner1967
            and what territories did they take from us?

            The elderberry garden, and the uncle in Kiev, right? And so read the Helsinki Treaty - enlighten.
    3. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 7 December 2017 09: 44
      +2
      Quote: Herkulesich
      Does he clearly want Istanbul to become Constantinople again? ?? We do not mind, we are only for !!!

      What they want is yes. But the fact that we are for it, then here you clearly got excited. Although in the current situation and in the short term, graters between NATO members are beneficial to us. Not for nothing is it concerned)))
    4. shrimp
      shrimp 13 December 2017 19: 35
      0
      agree return kars and van turkish
    5. shrimp
      shrimp 13 December 2017 19: 38
      0
      agree return kars and van turkish
  2. 117 factory
    117 factory 7 December 2017 07: 03
    +6
    Erdogan was completely raging, he wants to revive the Ottoman Empire, and himself to the throne.
  3. Ushly_bashkort
    Ushly_bashkort 7 December 2017 07: 03
    24
    And let’s review the collapse of the Soviet Union, it is not beneficial for us, obviously, and most of the population was against it.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 7 December 2017 07: 28
      +2
      Quote: Ushly_bashkort
      And let's review the collapse of the Soviet Union

      here yes
    2. MadCat
      MadCat 7 December 2017 07: 57
      +5
      Quote: Ushly_bashkort
      And let’s review the collapse of the Soviet Union, it is not beneficial for us, obviously, and most of the population was against it.

      so we started from Crimea request
  4. newcomer
    newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 09
    +7
    Greeks first bell.
    1. Jedi
      Jedi 7 December 2017 07: 15
      +5
      Garik, hi! hi Already far from the first. sad
      1. newcomer
        newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 20
        +5
        with a peppy morning, Maxim. yes, provocations and constant disputes around the islands and adjacent miles, the division of Cyprus. but now the situation is such that the Turks, smelling blood, can easily step over any contract. I doubt that the Yankees would intercede for the Greeks.
        1. Jedi
          Jedi 7 December 2017 07: 21
          +6
          The United States will only be happy if a hot spot is drawn there.
          1. newcomer
            newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 26
            +6
            about! will be happy to do business on both. then they will take the remnants of Greece under a direct protectorate. Well, this is if we (according to the glories of the seers) do not harness for the Greeks.
            1. Jedi
              Jedi 7 December 2017 07: 32
              +5
              Quote: newbie
              if we (according to the glories of the seers) do not harness for the Greeks

              Seers are not always right in their foresight. Sometimes unfortunately, sometimes fortunately ...
              1. newcomer
                newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 39
                +5
                Max, I totally agree. these marches of ours were slaughtered in the name of saving someone or something, with all our strength, tearing out the veins, and then getting fraternal knives in the back. if so, I don’t know what the Greeks have, what is not in Syria ?! it’s time for us to concentrate on our loved ones and on our main enemy, the Anglo-Saxons. all these sudden wars on take-off of the country, not allowing us to fly up, got it.
                1. Jedi
                  Jedi 7 December 2017 07: 41
                  +5
                  Quote: newbie
                  it’s time for us to concentrate on our loved ones and on our main enemy, the Anglo-Saxons. all these sudden wars on take-off of the country, not allowing us to fly up, got

                  So arrogant Saxons for this war and distract us - so that they do not have enough time. wink
                  1. newcomer
                    newcomer 7 December 2017 07: 49
                    +5
                    exactly. to clean up the perimeter, which is what we are doing in Syria (yes, this is the perimeter of the Russian Federation, I consider the protectorate of the Russian Federation), and then we'll see.
            2. Rakti-kali
              Rakti-kali 7 December 2017 10: 17
              +1
              Quote: newbie
              about! will be happy to do business on both. then they will take the remnants of Greece under a direct protectorate. Well, this is if we (according to the glories of the seers) do not harness for the Greeks.

              What prevents us (Russia) from “doing business on both” instead of “harnessing ourselves to the Greeks”? What are Turks, what are Greeks, we are not brothers and not brothers.
  5. garnik
    garnik 7 December 2017 07: 09
    +3
    Erdogan notes that the Lausanne Treaty is not beneficial for Turkey.

    In those years, many agreements were signed and far from all in favor of Turkey. But there were treaties that literally saved Turkey from death. Maybe remember them.
  6. Rotmistr
    Rotmistr 7 December 2017 07: 09
    17
    Better Revise Montreux Conference 1936
    And even better is to leave the Turkish region from NATO. Maybe in the latter case, Russia and Greece will tear apart the head of the head?
    I would go to Constantinople with pleasure)
  7. BVS
    BVS 7 December 2017 07: 10
    +7
    Quote: Herkulesich
    Does he clearly want Istanbul to become Constantinople again? ?? We do not mind, we are only for !!!

    Why - what would it become European or Arab? After all, before the Turks, he was alternately captured by him. He was NEVER Russian. So what do you want?
    1. den3080
      den3080 7 December 2017 07: 16
      +2
      Apparently the crusade)) some readers of this article want, with the subsequent renaming of Istanbul to Constantinople.
      Constantinople is one of the ... tales of Tsar Saltan lol
    2. garnik
      garnik 7 December 2017 07: 53
      +3
      In 1204, the Crusaders was taken almost without a fight. In the 8th century, the Arabs did not succeed; the Byzantines were helped by the Bulgarians. In the 9th century, Oleg and his retinue tried to take the city; only in 1453 did the Turks succeed.
      For any Empire to exist, it must be belligerent, prosperous, and ambitious. She cannot exist without it.
      Constantinople was also once not Turkish.
      1. alatanas
        alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 44
        +1
        In 1204 the Crusaders was taken almost without a fight

        I do not agree. The battle was, and not small.
        1. garnik
          garnik 9 December 2017 08: 27
          +1
          Perhaps you are right. In Soviet times, it was not customary to cover the history of the Byzantine Empire so as not to offend the Turks.
    3. CorvusCoraks
      CorvusCoraks 7 December 2017 07: 58
      +3
      Quote: bvs
      He was NEVER Russian. So what do you want?


      How was it not? They just didn’t leave it to themselves)

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Русско-византийская
      _war_ (907)
    4. venaya
      venaya 7 December 2017 08: 00
      +2
      Quote: bvs
      .. before the Turks, he was alternately captured by him. He was NEVER Russian.

      Is this information from where else? Not only Constantinople, but also the current BRD was for a much longer time a part of all kinds of Rus, because there are the sacred cities of ancient Rus, and Rurik is just from there, and he was all the same Russian-speaking, he didn’t know today's languages ​​there because it wasn’t then them, by definition, completely! By the way word "Constantinople" - a-priory Russian-speaking. Have you still not noticed this?
      1. alatanas
        alatanas 8 December 2017 22: 57
        +1
        Well tired! BoRussiansia - Dortmund, this is the mostof Russiankaya command and there everything is one to one R1A1 and "Russo-Varangians", etc.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 7 December 2017 07: 17
    +2
    The Sultan is trying on ... what do they have there? The crown? Gold embroidered turban? Turkey now is not the Ottoman Empire half a Europe at all ... But it can make a rustle wassat
  9. Observer2014
    Observer2014 7 December 2017 07: 19
    +6
    Turkish army moved border infrastructure deep into Syrian territory by several hundred meters
    I read something like this and catch myself thinking that we and the Syrians desperately need something to explode in the desert. Even a tactical nuclear charge, let it be. In one fell swoop, you can beat off a bunch of problems from Syria. I won’t list who understands the trend. hi .
  10. K-50
    K-50 7 December 2017 07: 32
    +2
    The Lausanne Treaty is not beneficial for Turkey.

    All Treaties are a compromise. If the leader of such a large country does not understand this, then what does he do in politics? belay
    Is Turkey ready to change the balance of power in the region? Germany, too, was not happy with the results of the WWII, she began the "redistribution of property" and was hardly left without pants.
    All the same, the current politicians need to engage less in populism and self-PR, and more on the economies of their countries to think and the aspirations of the population.
    Until they calm down, it won’t end in good. sad
  11. w70
    w70 7 December 2017 07: 34
    +1
    Sorry it did not bang in the 16th
  12. bald
    bald 7 December 2017 07: 37
    +4
    But I didn’t read it - Russia, you forgot who the Turks need to remember the traitors and invaders and our fighter, as it was agreed at the highest level - but I will not forgive.
    1. bald
      bald 7 December 2017 07: 39
      +2
      I’ll just be killing them for the Crimean in kindred
  13. Sofa General
    Sofa General 7 December 2017 07: 38
    +3
    Quote: Logall
    Vitalievich, I agree:
    The Greeks must not be offended! They are Orthodox!

    For some little brothers we already "fit in" and just against the turret ...
    Is our rake everything?
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  15. Monarchist
    Monarchist 7 December 2017 08: 29
    +1
    "Oh, this sultan, he doesn’t sit down, everything is wrong for him," thought Trump.
  16. unignm
    unignm 7 December 2017 08: 48
    +1
    such questions are decided only by war
  17. dmmyak40
    dmmyak40 7 December 2017 10: 37
    +1
    novel66,
    Normal brandy "Slyanchev Bryag! Students climbed up one pile, drank brandy, had a bite. And then I had to chew it until I let it go a little, but chopped it, it was dangerous to go down in this state.
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 7 December 2017 11: 06
    +4
    Yes, Erdogan-Sultan burns not childish !!!
    Come on Recep burn yoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
  19. BVS
    BVS 7 December 2017 11: 32
    +1
    Quote: CorvusCoraks
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Русско-византийская
    _war_ (907)

    Alas, it’s most likely Russian legends, there are simply no other sources of information.
    1. Thracian warrior
      Thracian warrior 7 December 2017 12: 21
      +3
      In the Bulgarian chronicles everything is documented:
      907, Prince Oleg of Kiev, that same Viking Rurik’s own son, will plant Constantinople UNSUCCESSFULLY, then 941. Prince Igor again cuddles and AGAIN unsuccessfully. That's true. At that time, we had a golden age of prosperity, converted to Christianity, had flights to 3 seas, etc. hi
  20. BVS
    BVS 7 December 2017 11: 34
    +1
    Quote: venaya
    Quote: bvs
    .. before the Turks, he was alternately captured by him. He was NEVER Russian.

    Is this information from where else? Not only Constantinople, but also the current BRD was for a much longer time a part of all kinds of Rus, because there are the sacred cities of ancient Rus, and Rurik is just from there, and he was all the same Russian-speaking, he didn’t know today's languages ​​there because it wasn’t then them, by definition, completely! By the way word "Constantinople" - a-priory Russian-speaking. Have you still not noticed this?

    And where is Rurik from?
    1. venaya
      venaya 7 December 2017 15: 21
      +2
      Quote: bvs
      А Rurik that whence?

      And Rurik comes from the then Varyazhskaya Russia, which has other names, for example Vagriya and others. Today it is already the territory of the former Prussian kingdom, Pomerania, etc., to taste. There are Russian-language names everywhere, somewhat distorted, especially after the reign of A. Hitler - this explicit Nazi renamed a lot of things there, take an interest in this issue yourself. The situation is similar with the territory of Byzantium, once there also exclusively Russian-speaking people lived there, but to someone, both the Russian language and the whole Russian-speaking across the throat, the obvious Nazis in general, do not like everything and introduce their languages ​​everywhere. By the way "Ottoman Empire" in English "The Ottoman Empire "is a Cossack term like that. Don’t you?
  21. gurzuf
    gurzuf 7 December 2017 15: 31
    +1
    Quote: novel xnumx
    and let the Ararat be returned to the Armenians, otherwise they will be sad beyond measure, if only for justice!

    So let the Armenians - ASK for it themselves, otherwise they will blame us for this initiative.
    1. novel66
      novel66 10 December 2017 08: 51
      +2
      there will be new lands - maybe at least part of us will go there
  22. BVS
    BVS 7 December 2017 16: 20
    +3
    Quote: venaya
    Quote: bvs
    А Rurik that whence?

    And Rurik comes from the then Varyazhskaya Russia, which has other names, for example Vagriya and others. Today it is already the territory of the former Prussian kingdom, Pomerania, etc., to taste. There are Russian-language names everywhere, somewhat distorted, especially after the reign of A. Hitler - this explicit Nazi renamed a lot of things there, take an interest in this issue yourself. The situation is similar with the territory of Byzantium, once there also exclusively Russian-speaking people lived there, but to someone, both the Russian language and the whole Russian-speaking across the throat, the obvious Nazis in general, do not like everything and introduce their languages ​​everywhere. By the way "Ottoman Empire" in English "The Ottoman Empire "is a Cossack term like that. Don’t you?

    I live in Kazakhstan, and my friends, Kazakhs, say with humor that the first person on planet Earth was a Kazakh, because Adam is a Kazakh name.
  23. dmitry.kashkaryow
    dmitry.kashkaryow 7 December 2017 17: 09
    0
    Quote: novel xnumx
    somehow went through, it was so shitty,

    And if you "sort out" vodka or cognac, is it good for you?
  24. dmitry.kashkaryow
    dmitry.kashkaryow 7 December 2017 17: 15
    +1
    Quote: bvs
    "The Ottoman Empire" is such a Cossack term. Do not find?

    Rather, the "ataman" is the Turkish term, since the Ottoman empire is much older than the Cossack freemen. The Cossacks have many Turkish borrowings, they even "occupied" their wives there sometimes!
  25. Terenin
    Terenin 7 December 2017 22: 06
    +3
    How many people exist, so many wars are fought at different intervals. Politicians are wiser - the gap is longer and vice versa ...
  26. Terenin
    Terenin 7 December 2017 22: 35
    +4
    Recep Erdogan is well aware that the recent coup attempt in Turkey and its elimination was with the knowledge of the United States. He does not intend to forgive this, but not to declare war on him with America, and therefore he will "let off steam" on those who are closer and not so dangerous. And then he will look, if he "gets away with it" he will go further, if they get jammed - he will slow down until the next suitable moment.
  27. LAWNER
    LAWNER 8 December 2017 04: 07
    0
    If the Turks take on the Greeks, then the war with Israel and the United States will begin faster than with North Korea. Otherwise, Erdogan will control the sea routes from Israel to Europe.
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  29. VladGashek
    VladGashek 9 December 2017 00: 18
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    Following the words of Erdogan, it is necessary to return Kars, Erzurum and Cilician coast to the Armenians. Domino principle, push one figure and everything will fall. Then what - Ottoman power from the Danube to the Persian Gulf and the Red Sea.
  30. SSP
    SSP 9 December 2017 17: 21
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    was recently in Turkey, talked with one local man, he directly called Erdogan modern Hitler
  31. kkk888
    kkk888 12 December 2017 03: 30
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    all the Turks creeps in is a gas pipe that goes there. The Kremlin will not spoil relations with the Ottoman. And most importantly, do not get into a new war that is brewing with Trump. Israel has already begun. It remains to link the Kurds with the Turks and the entire region from neighboring countries