Putin commented on the removal of the Russian national team from the Olympics

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Vladimir Putin, who announced today that he is running for another presidential term, commented on the situation with the dismissal of the Russian team from participation in the Olympic Games. According to the president (and now it is five minutes to a candidate), the Russian authorities will not prevent the participation of Russian athletes in the OY-2018 in Pyeongchang, who are ready to perform under a neutral flag.

Putin commented on the removal of the Russian national team from the Olympics




Vladimir Putin during a meeting with employees of the GAZ plant:
We, without any doubt, will not declare any blockade, we will not prevent our Olympians from taking part if one of them wants to take part in a personal capacity. First, we must say directly that we are partly to blame for this, because we have given a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was used not entirely honestly, to put it mildly.


Putin said that many athletes had been preparing for these international competitions for many years, he knows “many athletes personally”, and therefore they will not take prohibitive measures against Russian athletes.

Further, the president, in essence, repeated the thesis of the press secretary Peskov, noting that “the situation must be dealt with carefully” and entrust the final decision to the Olympic Assembly.

It is unlikely that after the words of Putin, the Olympic Assembly will take a different decision on the participation of Russian athletes as "singles" - without a flag, a hymn and other attributes of the country, which made them (athletes) real masters of the sporting business.
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  1. +225
    6 December 2017 18: 51
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!
    1. +13
      6 December 2017 18: 55
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

      Well, what's your suggestion?
      1. +76
        6 December 2017 18: 58
        But it is necessary to punish the insolence in the courts. Moreover, the rules of the Olympic Charter say that unrecognized countries and states in which military operations are taking place under the Olympic flag. Dear IOC, since when has Russia become an unrecognized country? On what basis was the decision made to remove the Russian team from the opening and closing ceremonies? The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.
        1. +151
          6 December 2017 19: 00
          “If, choosing between war and shame, you prefer shame, then in the end you will inevitably get both war and shame ...” - W. Churchill.
          1. +94
            6 December 2017 19: 09
            Fine! The team of Rodchenkov and Stepanova is waiting for new participants. negative And here, in a conscientious way, the payment for treason from our Western "partners" arrived in time! Yes Although what is this "betrayal" ?! Sport, as you know, is outside politics, because there is no betrayal, what difference does it make under whose flag? Again, do you know how hard life is for athletes ??? Exhausting workouts, fees, regimen, diet. They do not spare themselves, one might say. crying These are not some submariners out there who sit under water for six months. They just lay in bed and sleep for yourself. And not the pilots in Syria - those in general in the resort, here is winter, and there the Mediterranean Sea is at hand. And athletes - they walk on the blade every day. In general, this is not a betrayal, and who are they to ignore the instructions of the Kremlin oligarch officials from a NEUTRAL country! When, Deputy Prime Minister Dvorkovich called on Russian athletes to go to the 2018 Olympics, he believes that the “neutral status” of athletes is not important in this case ... And the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said that the Russian authorities would not impede the participation of Russian athletes in Pyeongchang Olympic Games in personal capacity under the neutral flag! fool So, to spit on the flag, anthem and humiliation of Russia, let us rather run for medals and dallars! am
            1. +91
              6 December 2017 19: 10
              The authorities of the Russian Federation really cannot ban athletes from participating in the Olympic Games, but Russia’s authorities do not need to indulge this!
              The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of the Olympic Games, and tomorrow they will speak abroad in foreign clubs as citizens of foreign countries. As they say, a tablecloth is dear to them!
              1. +38
                6 December 2017 19: 23
                Polls
                Will you cheer for Russian athletes with a neutral flag?
                The survey is conducted from December 6 to 2017.
                At the time of 6.11.2017 6: 20, 8352 people voted.
                Yes ................................ 25%
                No .............................. 27%
                I do not want to watch the Olympic Games .... 48%

                See - https://eadaily.com/en/poll/
                1. +1
                  6 December 2017 20: 28
                  No comment.
                  1. +10
                    6 December 2017 20: 42
                    Putin said they would not hinder those who wish PERSONALLY participate.
                    if any of them wants to take part in personal quality

                    The state of Russia MUST send the Olympic Committee and the show itself under the name OI.
                    There is a Russian proverb: a woman with a cart is easier for a mare. If you don’t want to see Russia on your coven, we have nothing to do there.
                    Here quoted above Churchill. But this Anglo-Saxon loved the Russians no more than Hitler. And only a Russian soldier forced him to negotiate with Stalin. Ghoul he is ordinary. Why quote people who wanted the death of a Russian person and his life spent just for that ????
                    1. +6
                      6 December 2017 20: 55
                      Quote: Vladimir16
                      There is a Russian proverb: a woman with a cart is easier for a mare. You don’t want to see Russia on your coven, so we have nothing to do there



                      And in this allegory of yours, what role does Russia play ?. Women, carts or mares?
                      1. +17
                        6 December 2017 23: 00
                        Quote: Town Hall
                        ... What role does Russia play ?. Women, carts or mares?
                        The fourth - unrequited patylo. How it all got ...
                        I will definitely vote for Sobchachka, I don’t have to pin any hopes on her “reviving Russia”. Accordingly, there will be no disappointment either.
                        Well, Vladimir Vladimirovich, of course, good luck in the presidential election. After all, "If not Putin, then who?" Yes, gentlemen / fellow putriots?
                    2. +5
                      7 December 2017 02: 13
                      Then, that the meaning and value of the statement depends little on the preferences of the author. You can learn a lot from smart enemies. This is better than listening to stupid friends.
                    3. +2
                      7 December 2017 07: 28
                      Quote: Vladimir16
                      Why quote people who wanted the death of a Russian person and his life spent just that

                      Churchill was a ghoul, but you can’t call him a fool. Correctly said, it concerns everyone.
                      You don’t want to see Russia on your coven, so we have nothing to do there
                      Just do not send the team to the Olympics, leave everything as it is, swallow all the humiliation without a decent answer, this is a shame.
                2. +10
                  6 December 2017 20: 33
                  To cheer for our athletes, you need to at least see them on the “box”, but for now there is information about the failure of our main channels (1TV, Russia TV, Match TV) to broadcast games to Russia:
                  1) http://patriot-su-rf.ru/blog/43416171289/Zapad-vo
                  zmuschen: -Otkaz-telekanalov-RF-ot-translyatsii-Ol
                  impiysk
                  2) https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
                  01711171648-zzat.htm
                  1. +9
                    6 December 2017 21: 14
                    The broadcasting contracts have already been closed, refuse to get on the headstock. And our business books are not so many patriots that grandmas lose.
                    They are contaminated and then, as usual, will merge.
                3. +28
                  6 December 2017 21: 13
                  I think the survey reflects the mood in the country, I personally declare a boycott for this Olympiad: I will not watch the competition and even be interested in the results.
                  1. +17
                    6 December 2017 23: 02
                    I, too, have to bring us to the ETU Olympiad.
                4. +59
                  6 December 2017 21: 17
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Will you cheer for Russian athletes with a neutral flag?

                  What vote? ... what are you talking about ...
                  These were the athletes

                  and now businessmen
                  PS "At the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Tokyo (1964), the USSR national team entered the stadium. The passage through the Olympic circle ranged from entry to placement at the stadium for 25-30 minutes. All this time, Soviet athlete Yuri Vlasov, the standard bearer of the Olympic team, carried flag weighing 2,5-3 kg. on outstretched arm ... !!!
                  It was a SHOCK for athletes and reporters all over the world !!! ... in the future, many tried to repeat this action of the Russian Glorious Strongman - no one has managed to repeat it today "
                  1. +19
                    6 December 2017 21: 35
                    And I would send this team for biathlon and let them try to ban the tricolor and anthem ....
                    1. +10
                      6 December 2017 21: 42
                      Quote: Solomon Kane
                      And I would send this team for biathlon and let them try to ban the tricolor and anthem ...

                      hi skiers removed ... they have no choice request
                      and what’s most interesting, none of those who want it thinks, but what should be done with this (detached) ?! will they carry a rag for them?
                      PS hint about skiers realized if that winked
                      1. +8
                        6 December 2017 22: 07
                        In 1984, nothing was wrong with our Olympus. national team did not happen ...
                        And after all, no one removed, it was just a shame for the Motherland .....
                    2. 0
                      7 December 2017 06: 13
                      5555555 !!!!!!
                  2. +2
                    6 December 2017 23: 04
                    Alexander Bear !!! He carried the flag in one outstretched hand!
                    1. +10
                      6 December 2017 23: 57
                      Quote: Hero's grandson
                      Alexander Bear !!! He carried the flag in one outstretched hand!

                      He is Russian, he can.
              2. +9
                6 December 2017 19: 37
                They will perform, for whom the main thing is sport and they devoted their whole life to this, here they have a small plus if they bring gold or silver. For them, too, the choice is difficult!
                1. +17
                  6 December 2017 19: 54
                  Alexander War
                  Will perform, for whom the main thing is sport and their whole life they shone this

                  And during the Second World War for the Red Army, what was the main thing?

                  here they have a small plus IF they bring gold or silver
                  That's it - IF!
                  1. +2
                    6 December 2017 20: 08
                    I’m telling my athletes their choice whether they don’t go or if they go, they must either bring a gold or silver medal, what’s the point if they go and come without medals at all, they will be between a rock and a hard place
                    1. +14
                      6 December 2017 20: 13
                      They will come without medals even if they honestly win the championship! Why not understand something here ?! Not for this all this was started! They will be all spat upon !!!
                      1. +20
                        6 December 2017 20: 17
                        Kim Jin-un may disqualify everyone there
                      2. +20
                        6 December 2017 21: 38
                        And if they earn it, after 2 years the IOC will take it away, such as Plutonium -239 found in urine .....
                  2. +14
                    6 December 2017 21: 20
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    And during the Second World War for the Red Army, what was the main thing?

                    In a slave, feudal, capitalist society, sport is just a form of gladiatorial fighting, nothing more than a way to distract the masses from their class interests, overshadow the injustice in the distribution of bread with spectacles. Bourgeois sport generates imaginary solidarity, and with it solidarity, corporatism, and - as you descendants who watched the German 1936 Olympiad of the year, you know very well - it pours water on the mill of fascism.
                    Konstantin Semin. AgitProp.
                    https://agitblog.ru/articles/prisluzhivat-mozhno-
                    igrat-nelzya.html
                  3. 0
                    7 December 2017 04: 49
                    Yes, what are you? How can they beat the sick "athletes"? They are sorry!
                2. Alf
                  +4
                  6 December 2017 21: 47
                  Quote: Alexander War
                  if they bring gold or silver

                  Bring, bring. And after six months they will be disqualified, and they will offer to hand over medals. Oh, and not ashamed of ours ... allow this.
              3. +9
                6 December 2017 21: 24
                Quote: Tatiana
                The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of OI, and tomorrow they will perform abroad in foreign clubs

                Well, take the hockey players. Their NHL at the world championships does not let go. They share their money there. How long has this been going on? Betrayal in sports has been going on for a long time. An example of Domracheva or Anna (Victor) taught nothing to anyone. You need to develop your sport, and not use someone else's, and not give your own. We need to decide why we need sports of the highest achievements, or we need sports for public health. I have not seen a single athlete of the highest achievements healthy after the end of his career. There are many defectors, but it is not for me to judge them. Each of them has its own motivation. Something like this hi
              4. +8
                6 December 2017 22: 57
                The title of citizen obliges. . Your rights are dictated by your responsibilities.

                Athletes represent their country first. At the olympic games.
              5. 0
                6 December 2017 23: 47
                Quote: Tatiana
                The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of the Olympic Games, and tomorrow they will speak abroad in foreign clubs as citizens of foreign countries. As they say, a tablecloth is dear to them!

                Tatyana, have you ever been responsible that rush like that?
                I was even a Captain. What does this mean? For example, save the Circle and then tear everyone. How it works? In the circle of carpet / tatami, the entire Team looks at the actions of one fighter. One screwed up - others know how to win, the main thing is to know where he screwed up, but without the Circle it’s not how. It was invented before me, I just seated my wrestlers in a Circle hi
                And how can it be without a Circle? Throwing a catch - 50% of the injury, if not supported - Come on, and the injury heals faster
                1. +4
                  7 December 2017 06: 48
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of the Olympic Games, and tomorrow they will speak abroad in foreign clubs as citizens of foreign countries. As they say, a tablecloth is dear to them!

                  Tatyana, have you ever been responsible that rush like that?
                  I was even a Captain. What does this mean? For example, save the Circle and then tear everyone. How it works? In the circle of carpet / tatami, the entire Team looks at the actions of one fighter. One screwed up - others know how to win, the main thing is to know where he screwed up, but without the Circle it’s not how. It was invented before me, I just seated my wrestlers in a Circle hi
                  And how can it be without a Circle? Throwing a catch - 50% of the injury, if not supported - Come on, and the injury heals faster

                  Sorry, but I personally did not understand anything from your comment. The incoherent speech you got. About like Klitschko. Blows to the head (and head) affect.
            2. +82
              6 December 2017 19: 22
              A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now even without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ... Patriotism is now expensive - it’s easier to lower our pants and say: “We don’t quarrel with partners ... and cowardly wipe. Yes, and Kremlin propagandists will now explain to the people - just smear it with petroleum jelly .... and everything will be in order
              1. +20
                6 December 2017 19: 34
                Our country has a valve at the helm.
              2. +13
                6 December 2017 19: 37
                Quote: Nonna
                A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now, without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ...

                now we also get an invisible split ...
                here the liberals will rejoice .... No.
                1. +16
                  6 December 2017 20: 34
                  I think today we have already received it.
                  1. +2
                    7 December 2017 04: 54
                    It also seems to me that it was the Rubicon, which we (or rather Putin) crossed. Only somewhere wrong.
              3. +12
                6 December 2017 20: 59
                Nonna Today, 19:22 ↑
                A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now even without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ... Patriotism is now expensive - it’s easier to lower our pants and say: “We don’t quarrel with partners ... and cowardly wipe. Yes, and Kremlin propagandists will now explain to the people - just smear it with petroleum jelly .... and everything will be in order
                In vain you are so ... The local Zaputinians have one answer to everything incomprehensible: Who is not Putin, then who?
                1. 0
                  6 December 2017 21: 58
                  Quote: Giants
                  In vain you are so ... The local Zaputinians have one answer to everything incomprehensible: Who is not Putin, then who?

                  Well, and who? Or maybe in history, who better remember over the past 100 years?
                  1. +6
                    6 December 2017 22: 11
                    Horse in a coat. At least it will not cover the thieves.
                    Quote: Winnie76
                    Or maybe in history, who better remember over the past 100 years?

                    Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin, Slave Galley his little finger is not worth it.
                    1. +2
                      6 December 2017 23: 03
                      Quote: Giants
                      Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin, Slave Galley his little finger is not worth it.

                      Was he the president or the secretary general? Or maybe a king? Giants, strain your cerebellum, or whatever you have. Who was better than Putin? Name, sister, name?
                      1. +1
                        6 December 2017 23: 49
                        Quote: Winnie76
                        Was he the president or the secretary general? Or maybe a king?

                        He was a true patriot of Russia, unlike your idol. I am sure that you, like Putin, this concept is an empty phrase. Have you been on an excursion in EBN Center for a long time? It is necessary to repeat!
                    2. +7
                      6 December 2017 23: 12
                      Which one was killed in 1998?
                      On the night of July 2–3, 1998, he was found murdered at his own dacha in the village of Klokovo, Naro-Fominsk District, Moscow Region. According to the official version, his wife, Tamara Rokhlina shot the sleeping Rokhlin, a family quarrel was called the reason. He was buried on July 7, 1998 at the Troekurovsky cemetery.

                      One writes for Sobchak will vote, the other for the deceased hero.
                      Did you get internet to the hospital?
                  2. +4
                    6 December 2017 22: 42
                    Well, if the GDP will try. then another 200 years, elections in Russia will be a formality. After all, the GDP was striving for the current situation of lack of fish!
                  3. +17
                    6 December 2017 23: 04
                    Quote: Winnie76
                    Or maybe in history, who better remember over the past 100 years?
                    Stalin.
                    1. 0
                      6 December 2017 23: 24
                      Quote: Ami du peuple
                      Stalin

                      Debatable. Frankly leaked at the beginning of World War II. Cult of personality, camps, spy mania, denunciations. Even if 10% true. Although industrialization, the nuclear shield is his merit
                      1. +9
                        6 December 2017 23: 28
                        Quote: Winnie76
                        Controversial
                        And now tell us about the indisputable achievements of Vladimir, the light of Vladimirovich. I look forward to it.
                      2. 0
                        7 December 2017 04: 54
                        The cult of personality? Are you reading Khrushchev’s memoirs?
                2. +3
                  7 December 2017 05: 03
                  Shoigu !!!!!! I did not read negative about him (even hints). I will definitely not vote for Putin now !!!!!!!!!
                  1. +1
                    7 December 2017 07: 18
                    Quote: Andkor1962
                    I did not read negative about him (even hints)

                    Russian statesman Center Director emergency psychological assistance from the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Management since 2002 (1977 gp[/ b]. -In 1999, after graduation, she came to work in the Center for Emergency Psychological Aid of the Ministry of Emergencies of Russia and [b] began working as an ordinary psychologist - probably the MOST competent / smart specialist in this organization was, if such a career. ), vice-president of RPO, deputy chairman of the Ethics Committee of RPO, candidate of psychological sciences, eldest daughter of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation S.K. Shoigu.

                    Some of the leaders of the wife are "smart", others have children ....
              4. +3
                7 December 2017 06: 53
                Quote: Nonna
                A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now even without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ... Patriotism is now expensive - it’s easier to lower our pants and say: “We don’t quarrel with partners ... and cowardly wipe. Yes, and Kremlin propagandists will now explain to the people - just smear it with petroleum jelly .... and everything will be in order

                I am proud of women (judging by the nickname) on our website. A clear, firm, patriotic position. Learn men
            3. +13
              6 December 2017 19: 46
              Quote: Sergey-svs
              Fine! The team of Rodchenkov and Stepanova is waiting for new participants. negative And here, in a conscientious way, the payment for treason from our Western "partners" arrived in time! Yes Although what is this "betrayal" ?! Sport, as you know, is outside politics, because there is no betrayal, what difference does it make under whose flag? Again, do you know how hard life is for athletes ??? Exhausting workouts, fees, regimen, diet. They do not spare themselves, one might say. crying These are not some submariners out there who sit under water for six months. They just lay in bed and sleep for yourself. And not the pilots in Syria - those in general in the resort, here is winter, and there the Mediterranean Sea is at hand. And athletes - they walk on the blade every day. In general, this is not a betrayal, and who are they to ignore the instructions of the Kremlin oligarch officials from a NEUTRAL country! When, Deputy Prime Minister Dvorkovich called on Russian athletes to go to the 2018 Olympics, he believes that the “neutral status” of athletes is not important in this case ... And the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said that the Russian authorities would not impede the participation of Russian athletes in Pyeongchang Olympic Games in personal capacity under the neutral flag! fool So, to spit on the flag, anthem and humiliation of Russia, let us rather run for medals and dallars! am

              let them finally take these athletes ... all of our medalists have been removed !!! laughing laughing laughing in principle, a semi-quirky bang could calmly admit our team under the Russian flag, because they removed all our real "medal" athletes !!! wink Yes wassat wassat wassat
            4. +27
              6 December 2017 19: 49
              The cause of Judah lives and thrives.
            5. 0
              6 December 2017 21: 22
              Yes, in general, idlers are athletes. Once a week they go to a rocking chair, they eat overseas caviar and bask in the oven for the remaining time, and then they want more money for it. Wow are insolent.
              Well, you can dismiss the crew of sailors who were preparing for the project 22350 ship because it is not ready and we need to boycott this ship.
              Although I agree that this must be answered. But in a slightly different way - all athletes who will participate must receive medals. And then the FSB will find an informant about doping programs in the most "active" countries. This will be beautiful, because then it will be possible to stream these states on-air.
              1. +5
                6 December 2017 23: 08
                Quote: NordOst16
                And then the FSB will find an informant about doping programs in the most "active" countries.
                You are talking nonsense. Right now, the townsfolk and authorities of the "civilized West" evidence "from the FSB" will seriously consider.
                1. 0
                  7 December 2017 00: 14
                  Well, they won’t shake the dope Falcon in front of the public, and more material evidence will lead
            6. 0
              7 December 2017 05: 53
              So the sportsman, forgive the tutka who pays and dances, what kind of a flag, what kind of anthem, babalos and personal ambitions at someone else’s expense and for free - is this the face of Russian sport? If the sportsmen still have crumbs of HONOR, then performing under the white flag is already a loss and it doesn’t matter what place and what color the piece of iron is hung on your chest, you capitulated before starting to compete and already lost by participating in this farce, called the Olympic Games in Pyeongchang! Everyone has a conscience or not.
            7. +2
              7 December 2017 06: 14
              That's right, the last time those who appeared under a neutral flag were thrown by the authorities and not paid. Right, you represented a neutral country, so let a neutral country pay. Now this neutral country will be the IOC itself. But I think that in Russia, these athletes will then have nothing to do
          2. +8
            6 December 2017 19: 54
            Quote: Nikolay S.
            “If, choosing between war and shame, you prefer shame, then in the end you will inevitably get both war and shame ...” - W. Churchill.

            The IOC President, German Thomas Bach, has again declared the start of the war.
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        3. +7
          6 December 2017 19: 52
          Mar. Thira Today, 18:58 ↑ New
          But it is necessary to punish the insolence in the courts. Moreover, the rules of the Olympic Charter say that unrecognized countries and states in which military operations are taking place under the Olympic flag. Dear IOC, since when has Russia become an unrecognized country? On what basis was the decision made to remove the Russian team from the opening and closing ceremonies? The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.

          Yeah, complain about the ghouls to the huckster).
        4. +12
          6 December 2017 20: 02
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.

          And where did you see the countries of "non-polite democracy" the concept of legality applied to Russia in recent years?
          These are no longer double standards. This is direct and overt pressure on Russia as a state. And the GDP responded to this with a statement about the desire to be president of Russia further.
          1. +14
            6 December 2017 21: 01
            Quote: stalkerwalker
            And the GDP responded to this with a statement about the desire to be president of Russia further.

            Yes ... he answered. That he still wants to hold power in his miserable, sweaty, cowardly hands ...
            1. +4
              6 December 2017 22: 04
              Quote: Barkhan
              Yes ... he answered. That he still wants to hold power in his miserable, sweaty, cowardly hands ...

              Fan Ksyushadi Detected
              1. +4
                6 December 2017 22: 43
                do you know anyone except Ksyusha?
                1. +2
                  6 December 2017 23: 11
                  Quote: Overlock
                  do you know anyone except Ksyusha?

                  And then laughing Navalny, Maltsev, Zyuganov, Yavlinsky, Zhirinovsky, Khodorkovsky.
                  Eat not oblypaytes.
                  1. +3
                    6 December 2017 23: 54
                    how narrow-minded you are, go around liberal parties. all of your friends and nobody you want to know around
                  2. +1
                    7 December 2017 03: 38
                    Actually Titov, for general development.
                    1. 0
                      7 December 2017 05: 09
                      Yes, it’s better than ... (in the light of recent statements). I’m just wondering how many he lost in a day.
              2. +3
                7 December 2017 04: 13
                Quote: Winnie76
                Quote: Barkhan
                Yes ... he answered. That he still wants to hold power in his miserable, sweaty, cowardly hands ...

                Fan Ksyushadi Detected

                Actually, the fan of Ksyushadi is the one who is for Putin - her friend
              3. +5
                7 December 2017 08: 47
                [quote = Vinnie76] Fan Ksyushadi Detected
                I’m a fan of Stalin. And I hate fiercely all of your treacherous and deceitful liberalism. It was Putin who dragged a suitcase and executed orders from Sobchak, not me. their number, and this is all dissatisfied with Putin’s actions ... And when a decent figure comes, and she comes, the time and events have ripened, then all the trash will be swept away with snot.
        5. +13
          6 December 2017 20: 06
          International law is the right of the strong and nothing more.
        6. 0
          6 December 2017 20: 56
          Sorry, but the GDP itself said: “First of all, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was not used in an honest way, to put it mildly. " Which court?
          1. +2
            7 December 2017 01: 26
            Quote: alexhol
            Sorry, but the GDP itself said: “First of all, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was not used in an honest way, to put it mildly. " Which court?

            So that? Will we pay and repent?
            1. +1
              7 December 2017 01: 34
              Quote: tomket
              Quote: alexhol
              Sorry, but the GDP itself said: “First of all, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was not used in an honest way, to put it mildly. " Which court?

              So that? Will we pay and repent?




              Well, if they admitted that they will have to blame, they will have to pay and repent. Moreover, the amount is small ... and there is certainly a hpp.
          2. +1
            7 December 2017 05: 10
            And why then there are no resignations of Mudko and Zhukovlinsky?
        7. +7
          6 December 2017 21: 20
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          And you need to punish the insoles in the courts.

          That is, to play by their rules? Barren occupation.
          It is necessary to work personally, with point strikes. For example, as with the former IMF chairman. As soon as he decided to kick back, it immediately became clear that he was badly pestering the maid in the hotel. The scandal was fanned and he resigned. A few years later they found out that it was not true, but nobody was interested in it.
        8. 0
          7 December 2017 07: 28
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          And you need to punish the insolent court

          Who are the judges? wink
        9. +2
          7 December 2017 09: 23
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          But it is necessary to punish the insolence in the courts. Moreover, the rules of the Olympic Charter say that unrecognized countries and states in which military operations are taking place under the Olympic flag. Dear IOC, since when has Russia become an unrecognized country? On what basis was the decision made to remove the Russian team from the opening and closing ceremonies? The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.

          Ever since when the country is ruled by oligarchs who from the west hold tightly by the eggs.
      2. +41
        6 December 2017 19: 04
        First of all, do not sprinkle ashes on your head. And do not say that you yourself are partially to blame .. It’s your own fault! And finally make a decision that is worthy of the Head of State, who was humiliated ... Send the IOC with mongrel to ...!
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

        Well, what's your suggestion?
        1. +20
          6 December 2017 19: 38
          Unfortunately, the IOC is only the tip of the iceberg, so to speak! Our authorities are constantly making excuses to ... well, I don’t know what to call .. "masters" or something. At best, they express concern or concern.
          But you need to be tougher! Otherwise, they will "kick".
          The country is rich, self-sufficient EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?
          1. +23
            6 December 2017 19: 55
            Quote: Viktor77
            Unfortunately, the IOC is only the tip of the iceberg, so to speak! Our authorities are constantly making excuses to ... well, I don’t know what to call .. "masters" or something. At best, they express concern or concern.
            But you need to be tougher! Otherwise, they will "kick".
            The country is rich, self-sufficient EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?

            How can one behave harshly when there are villas, mansions, firms, and money withdrawn from Russia abroad. Not just money, but MONEY. No one here wants to aggravate the situation, or is afraid. By the way, the IOC admitted that McLaren’s report was one of the conditions, which means no courts, no lawsuits.
          2. +18
            6 December 2017 20: 03
            Quote: Viktor77
            The country is rich, self-sufficient EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?


            And the accounts in Western banks and the "golden children", who study and live in Western Europe and the USA, interfere. I advise everyone to watch the movie "Sleeping", it shows how our many "bureaucrats" are held by our Western "partners".
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              1. 0
                7 December 2017 05: 22
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Do not judge people by yourself

                Right By itself should not. Let's judge by the grannies, blaming the bad youth, the thieves of officials, while digging flowers from city beds ... This is just the beginning. Upon closer examination, a feeling inevitably arises that everyone is dragging everything that lies badly. Sellers deceive buyers, buyers of sellers, but all of them are deceived by road workers and communal services, who at one time were deceived by consumers of utility services with cuts and twists, and all this revolves around industries where those who produce earn money for everyone who does not do anything.
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Apparently, you are a man-stomach without honor and conscience

                And if according to your version there is a stomach man who lives in consumerism, then in those who out of the whole text angrily preach only at the first sentence, without going into the rest, I see a man-ass, that you don’t cram, you get feces only.
              2. +1
                7 December 2017 12: 20
                It’s not up to you to judge my honor and conscience. But, as is usual with us, blaming someone else for anything is not an example easier than living on conscience itself.
          4. +9
            6 December 2017 21: 51
            Viktor77 Today, 19:38. *** The country is rich, self-sufficient IN EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent? *** What is in the way? Probably the psychology of an opportunist. The main thing is to stick and adapt. Since the 90s, they are trying to stick to the global economy. But there they clearly know who is worth what. Here and indicate the place of these opportunists. Adherents thought their place at the trough or steering wheel, but it turned out to be near the toilet. But they entered the system of the world economy! And all this talk about a multipolar world turns out to be fiction. Russia does not want to create an alternative, but wants to enter the world economy, even a carcass, even a scarecrow! So much for the ridicule - Ukraine ce Europe! We have the same. Russia is part of the global economy! In the 90s they spat in the USSR. Then did not like the Soviet. Caved in and refused. Today they spit on Russia. We bend again and refuse? Tomorrow we will be part of the global economy and we will speak under what flag? England, USA ... ??? Becoming already the Russian state of the USA?
          5. Alf
            +9
            6 December 2017 21: 51
            Quote: Viktor77
            ! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?

            The presence of bandits in power.
          6. +1
            7 December 2017 05: 15
            Here you can answer ... a lot. Offhand. Money in government bonds, Money in offshore, Children who do not care about RUSSIA and who spend more abroad than at home. And all their thoughts are there. (And they are easy to pinch)
      3. +18
        6 December 2017 19: 06
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

        Well, what's your suggestion?

        It is necessary to ban the broadcast on television of the Olympics in 2018.
        1. +12
          6 December 2017 20: 32
          This is just a blow to the weakest point of the IOC committee - affordable.
          1. Alf
            +3
            6 December 2017 21: 54
            Quote: Icarus
            This is just a blow to the weakest point of the IOC committee - affordable.

            This is just a blow to the most tender place of our TV channels. And to earn loot, these TV channels will do anything.
            1. 0
              7 December 2017 02: 37
              Is not a fact. Eurovision is not broadcast. If the broadcast rights have not yet been paid or are not fully paid, it is very likely that it is cheaper to refuse - there will be problems with the sale of advertising time.
          2. +4
            6 December 2017 21: 58
            Icarus Today, 20:32. *** This is just a blow to the weakest point of the IOC Committee - affordable. *** The pocket is a weak spot for everyone. And very painful. If the pockets begin to exchange blows, it is not yet known which pocket will be more painful. Therefore, Russia does not want to hit in the pockets. From this, you can either lose consciousness or die. After all, they can hit the pockets of Russia, which it has a lot in other territories. Some have military bases and banks everywhere, while others have nest egg everywhere.
        2. +7
          6 December 2017 20: 33
          Quote: dorz
          It is necessary to ban the broadcast on television of the Olympics in 2018.

          There are two points here: firstly, they won’t look at it in Russia, and secondly, all the same, the Olympic business’s main earnings are not in Russia.
          1. +1
            7 December 2017 05: 17
            About PACE, they also said something like this.
      4. +11
        6 December 2017 19: 08
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        Scream here with a smart look ....
        1. 0
          7 December 2017 03: 44
          Here for this and allowed in Russia tyrnet.
      5. +45
        6 December 2017 19: 09
        The offer is simple. The current IOC is sent in 3 letters. Russian cooperation with the IOC is suspended. Athletes are made aware that speaking under the white flag, they may not count on the Russian flag in the future.
        1. Alf
          +4
          6 December 2017 21: 55
          Quote: andrew42
          Athletes are made aware that speaking under the white flag, they may not count on the Russian flag in the future.

          Who will do this? The one who said that
          that we ourselves are partly to blame
          ?
      6. +16
        6 December 2017 19: 13
        We need to create our own EAOK - the Euro-Asian Olympic Committee, with blackjack and other advantages. Just as the Internal Affairs Directorate will eventually draw a good third of the world against the background of justice and observance of the letter and spirit of the Olympic movement, not formally declared (Pierre de Coubertin rotates in a coffin), but the actual one. We offered them a multipolar world, and they impose a unipolar one - they will end up with a bipolar one again, with an arms race and other distortions. Only we are already taught. I would like to hope so, at least.
        1. +10
          6 December 2017 22: 07
          Navigator Basov Today, 19:13. We offer them a multipolar world !? And we are trying to integrate ourselves into their world! Where is the logic of Russia? Where is our movement to create our own, Russian world? Why do we integrate into the English world with his English philosophy? Why do we persistently strive to become an English colony?
          1. +1
            6 December 2017 23: 48
            We offer them, yes. It is impossible not to see.
            https://rueconomics.ru/268191-mnogopolyarnyi-mir-
            putina-pugaet-zapad
            We’re not trying to integrate, they are already integrated. Especially some who, by their personal dependence on the dollar, increase state dependence. Russia has logic, but not everyone agrees with it, which is precisely why their personal interests and the logic associated with them prevail over the logic of Russia. There is a movement for the creation of the Russian world, but there is little of it, as long as the levers are all tied up both on their world and on the world of individuals, which are embedded in their world. Why? Because they are attracted to this world at the moment, all naturally, all the same people. They don’t really know how to work with us at all, they can’t raise a culture in any way, nor can they build an ideology (they all refer to the ridiculous constitutional ban on ideology, which does not exist; in fact, they simply cannot in any ideology, and besides, the world’s world order is undergoing post-industrial crisis, and no one in the world can offer anything new, although in Russia some hares of a humanistic world order revolve in the language). But in general, we strive to break out of this vicious circle, much has been done, but much remains to be done.
      7. +17
        6 December 2017 19: 15
        Launch your own competitions and put on all of these corrupt and stinky scum. We will assemble the composition as in a tank biathlon, and let the rest be a hose.
      8. +22
        6 December 2017 19: 18
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

        Well, what's your suggestion?

        To withdraw from the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, to make a gas OPEC with Iran, in a day, the IOC will scream with might and main that they were supposedly mistaken, like a computer malfunction.
      9. GAF
        +20
        6 December 2017 19: 56
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        May I answer. In war as in war. There was a complete failure of the Israeli-American project to reformat the BV, (Peters map), Crimea, Ukraine ... The exceptional public does not forgive this. They will beat in all the “holes”, as is observed. The tactics of closing up individual holes is an ineffective tool. Obviously, we need a war strategy on all fronts, subordinate to GOALS. It is well said by the poet about Russia: "Remember the mysterious tactical device: When we retreat, it is we GO." And of course, the key to success is a reliable rear! ??? Here it is necessary to restore order first of all.
        1. +11
          6 December 2017 20: 17
          Quote: GAF
          “Remember the mysterious tactical device: When we retreat, it is we GO.”

          laughing This is Igor Rasteryaev sang
      10. +18
        6 December 2017 20: 33
        Good evening.
        I think it would be possible to organize parallel competitions for our athletes, say, in Sochi. The infrastructure allows you to provide interactive distance guidance over time of the same Fourcade or Koukalova online or on record (for supporters of a competitive spirit). For team sports, such as hockey, to gather teams from the KHL regular season as rivals, I think it would be prestigious for young people to fight the Olympic team, or they could invite from other countries, maybe they would come.
        Prizes should be provided according to the Olympic price list (refusal to pay to the IOC would cover the costs).
        RUSADA would be responsible for the doping (according to all the rules, and not taking into account doping for medical reasons).
        Call Fair Games 2018 or Games Out of Politics 2018
        Broadcast on TV only our games with a comparison of the overall result.
        1. +10
          6 December 2017 22: 15
          PavelAl Today, 20:33. I consider this a sensible proposal. But our government officials believe that Russia without the West will not survive from the word, completely. Therefore, he does not want to butt with the West on any issues. Therefore, we do not finance or develop anything domestic. What for? All the best there! It was in vain that Kerensky was not allowed to surrender Petrograd to the Germans. It was in vain that they repelled the offensive on June 22. But in the 90s we recouped in full and surrendered everything! Now we eat sausages, drink Bavarian and drive a BMW! Great! That’s the whole psychology of contemporary Russian politics. hi
      11. 0
        6 December 2017 20: 34
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        to sing the anthem of Russia to all our fans in the stadium if our athletes win
        1. +13
          6 December 2017 21: 34
          There will not be our athletes. They will not be with passports of citizens of the Russian Federation.
          And what kind of sport is it, if “pure athletes” go to the competitions “dumbfounded by drugs” for health reasons. It’s a pity that they don’t spend budget money on sports, but on the maintenance of the country's traitors. Instead of dispersing these bastards who dishonored the country, it is disgusting to hear "themselves guilty".
          1. 0
            7 December 2017 07: 30
            Quote: olimpiada15
            There will not be our athletes. They will not be with passports of citizens of the Russian Federation.

            well, ours will be all one, there will be no national team yes
      12. +11
        6 December 2017 20: 57
        What could be the proposal if we do not have a state and its leaders, some thieves and those who sell Russia.
      13. +2
        6 December 2017 21: 18
        And to send polite people there, As they want, without flags, without identification marks. And they will politely explain everything to everyone.
      14. +11
        6 December 2017 21: 37
        Well, what's your suggestion?


        In principle, it is one, you need to have competent managers. But it turns out that Mutko, who had to be driven into the neck after the Olympics in Vancouver, was appointed deputy prime minister. Zhukov who, in addition to all kinds of statements in the media, did NOTHING to protect our athletes. Koloskov was the chairman of the FIFA committee for the Olympic tournaments in 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2000, but if you remember, they tried to excommunicate him from the Olympic affairs back in the late 80s, but such a substance does not sink. and now we have what we have, as in Roscosmos - the problems are the same.
      15. +16
        6 December 2017 22: 29
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        1. Stop funding all international sports organizations that participate in the persecution of our athletes.
        2. Prohibit the broadcasting of sports competitions of these organizations.
        3. TFR to initiate an investigation into the unlawful prosecution of Russian citizens.
        That's right, I never voted for Putin. He showed himself as a rare match.
      16. +5
        6 December 2017 23: 12
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        Asymmetrical
        To give all athletes of Russia two-week Belarusian citizenship without depriving them of Russian citizenship, let them stand for Belarus (with the inclusion of Russian places in the BR national team plus), the Old Man, I think, will not mind ...
      17. +2
        7 December 2017 01: 03
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        complete ignoring of the IOC and WADA, plus cutting off funding to zero ... am
        But Putin - in his speech confirmed that he is a temporary worker and a comprador, the prestige of the state is an empty phrase for him (only concerns can portray), as well as his government led by Chupa-Chups ... am
        I just have a question - where will they bring them together with all their coeds in case of the time “Ch” and the order “carpet”? what
      18. +2
        7 December 2017 03: 55
        The offer is as simple as a Columbus egg - to hold the Olympic Games in 2018 simultaneously with the IOC, with a much larger prize pool than the IOC, with Olympic medals and the invitation of all athletes from all countries, refusal to broadcast, refusal to pay to the IOC, refusal to pay WADA, the requirement to present evidence, and in case of refusal, to initiate criminal cases for falsification, sanctions against the IOC in general and those who voted for disgrace in particular. Return to the IOC and WADA only in case of their complete reform - in particular, an honest and proportional representation of all countries. The ban on “fig leaflets” of drugs allowed by the “good” doctors, but in fact doping. Complete and final prohibition of "collective punishment" contrary to the basic provisions of international law. Landings in the IOC and WADA only according to the standards adopted by the criminal law, that is, a competitive court with the presentation of evidence and the debate of the parties.
      19. +3
        7 December 2017 06: 44
        Sending a team and financing it is CATEGORALLY IMPOSSIBLE!
        It is also impossible to prohibit the participation of individual athletes, but it is necessary to despise those who have gone.
        SHOW BUSINESS needs to indicate its place!
        And it's time to debunk the "heroes-athletes" who bring nothing to society and mutilate themselves.
      20. +1
        7 December 2017 06: 56
        I looked at the suggestions in the comments and it is, in general, absolutely correct.
        One nuance that many did not notice: Putin did not say that he would send the team and would finance it, he said that there would be no boycott - and rightly so. But you can’t forbid anyone to travel: let them check their conscience. And we will draw the right conclusions.
    2. +9
      6 December 2017 18: 55
      Yes, now they decide which of ours to speak, and who not.
      1. +17
        6 December 2017 20: 42
        As a result, the best in the yard teams will be selected (there is definitely no doping there). Our all, without exception, will lose to the Asmatics-Norwegians and other sick fraternity, they will all be left without medals ... and then the partners will spit on us reliably and say to the whole world that without doping in sports we are just NOBODY. This will be the height of our disgrace, and they will experience a feeling of deep satisfaction from this.
        1. +3
          6 December 2017 21: 41
          Quote: Kent0001
          they will select the best in the yard teams (there is definitely no doping there)

          C'mon, there is no dope ... Ah, excuse me, "777", "Stolichnaya", "Baltika -9", "Hunting Strong"? Dope, he's like that, he's everywhere ... wassat
    3. +21
      6 December 2017 18: 57
      never play with those who play without rules
      but if you already sat down, then take off the fuse from a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
      1. dSK
        +23
        6 December 2017 19: 23
        For lightning, orienteering, “Voroshilovsky shooter” less money is needed than for top players and “super stadiums”. And if the forty-first year? hi
        1. +11
          6 December 2017 19: 59
          Quote from dsk
          At the lightning, orienteering, "Voroshilovsky shooter"

          That's it. Plus the TRP is a must. Strong and trained people are more important than professional sports. And the guns are already audible.
    4. +48
      6 December 2017 19: 01
      This news is also very unpleasant for me. But something similar I also expected.
      Everyone has freedom of choice, but the horror takes on how many traitors go to where the RUSSIANS are not illegally allowed.

      Under a white rag
      Without objecting
      There is a team
      beggars

      direct road -
      to Olympus!

      From the unforgettable "Crocodile", when in the 1984 year a boycott of the Olympics was announced.


      So the Yankees and perverted the essence of OLYMPICS, trying to rake everything for themselves.
    5. +27
      6 December 2017 19: 04
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!


      I agree! And the statement of the Guarantor is neither Be, nor Me, nor Kukareku!



      PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!
      1. +14
        6 December 2017 19: 10
        Quote: Saburov
        PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!

        Breakthrough - a tricky two-way plan - Putin's motto in this election
        1. +24
          6 December 2017 19: 38
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Saburov
          PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!

          Breakthrough - a tricky two-way plan - Putin's motto in this election

          I was just sure that Putin would say something like that. Now the number of people who did not come to the polls, or who came to spoil the ballot, will increase significantly.
          1. +4
            6 December 2017 19: 45
            One could expect something like this from the guarantor ... request
          2. +3
            6 December 2017 20: 45
            A spoiled bell can be considered as a vote "Against all"?
            1. +1
              6 December 2017 22: 24
              no, he will be counted as spoiled.
          3. Alf
            +1
            6 December 2017 21: 58
            Quote: Antianglosaks
            Now the number of people who did not come to the polls, or who came to spoil the ballot, will increase significantly.

            Who told you that if you do not come to the polls, then you will come to them?
      2. +17
        6 December 2017 19: 17
        And why is it that He Himself is not in quotation marks and with a capital letter ... After all, he already does not guarantee anything .. Apart from his participation in the elections ..
        Quote: Saburov
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!


        I agree! And the statement of the Guarantor is neither Be, nor Me, nor Kukareku!



        PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!
        1. +17
          6 December 2017 19: 40
          Quote: 210ox
          And why is it that He Himself is not in quotation marks and with a capital letter ... After all, he already does not guarantee anything .. Apart from his participation in the elections ..

          after such a setup and kidalov (at first the athletes did not support him, and now head to the vat with r ...) his rating will drop below the baseboard ... request
          or hopes for peskov and others like him?
          It would be better if Shoigu were candidates ...
          1. +8
            6 December 2017 19: 53
            I was waiting for a reasonable decision by the current leaders about Shoigu ... I thought that would put forward in my place .. Alas.
            Quote: Deadush
            Quote: 210ox
            And why is it that He Himself is not in quotation marks and with a capital letter ... After all, he already does not guarantee anything .. Apart from his participation in the elections ..

            after such a setup and kidalov (at first the athletes did not support him, and now head to the vat with r ...) his rating will drop below the baseboard ... request
            or hopes for peskov and others like him?
            It would be better if Shoigu were candidates ...
          2. Alf
            +5
            6 December 2017 22: 00
            Quote: Deadush
            his rating will fall below the plinth ...

            Bet you win with 99%?
            1. +6
              6 December 2017 22: 10
              Quote: Alf
              Bet you win with 99%?

              This could have happened with EBEn ... and in your dreams.
              1. +1
                6 December 2017 23: 33
                We put about 99 is of course bust. exactly the same as "everything is lost, this is a disaster, Putin has leaked everything."
                The state is not only athletes, not even just them. And no one is going to drop everything else from this event.
                Indeed, the situation is extremely unpleasant, the image hit is a serious one.
                Does this guide understand? Absolutely yes.
                And of course, like any reasonable management, it must first decide what kind of actions should be taken to eliminate or reduce undesirable consequences.
                Some uncertainty in the assessment in this situation at the stage of developing a response is completely understandable to adults, but completely incomprehensible to adolescents jumping on the Internet in hysteria about "putinsil."
                Whether adolescents come to polling stations does not bother anyone but the adolescents themselves. Fortunately, the vast majority of moaning in various forums have not yet entered the electoral age. And the adults remaining in this company by age, but not by mental development, are still not so significant that they would greatly affect the election.
                1. +10
                  7 December 2017 00: 01
                  You should write fantastic stories.
                  Or scientific reports, as in the IOC and WADA.
                  1. -1
                    7 December 2017 04: 12
                    Scientific reports are not the only ones they write. Why are you so irreconcilably betrayed by science?
                2. +4
                  7 December 2017 03: 15
                  The “smart leadership” should have foreseen this image blow even when problems with Rio started. (And after all they were warned - swallow the summer, you will have problems with the winter). “Reasonable leadership” even then had to take all the “necessary measures”. “Reasonable leadership” should see right now that if we participate in their rules the image hit will be multiplied ... The conclusion is that either the leadership is not reasonable or their real goal setting is very different from the declared one.
                  1. 0
                    7 December 2017 04: 10
                    And in politics and government, it’s always like that - the real goal-setting is very different from the declared one. Because those who carry out this very goal-setting rely on a completely different amount of information than those for whom they later state. As a result, for many it turns out to be a discovery that their own view of the world is not at all what they really are, and not quite as they were told by politicians and leaders.
                    The goal is incomprehensible to them. As a result, there are jumps on the forums with wild hysteria and a spray of saliva about "putinsil."
                    Typically, adults rarely do this. Most of them, as it does not seem strange to teenagers, for the most part guess that life is the art of what is possible in specific circumstances, and that anything can be done only in computer games and in movies about superheroes for teenagers.
                    Here, one comrade wrote above about "Stalinism", obviously possessing knowledge from the school history course.
                    - And let's fucking !, - and let's block the pipe, - and let's ...
                    Let's.
                    Let's stop giving advice to people more competent than you and me, no matter how absurd their actions may seem.
                    And yes, of course, the statements that it, the government and Putin personally owe us or should not from our bell tower look no less funny.
                    I imagine if Comrade Stalin mentioned above would take into account the opinion of progressive omnipotent people at a time when the Germans were already near Moscow.
                    1. +2
                      7 December 2017 05: 54
                      I am 56 years old. And what, PITINNESLIL?
                      1. 0
                        7 December 2017 10: 15
                        At that age, it's time to get smarter
                    2. +1
                      7 December 2017 06: 13
                      It certainly can be so. The main goals of the "upper people" would still know. When cattle are brought to a slaughterhouse he is not very worried.
      3. 0
        7 December 2017 08: 38
        Apparently, you read his statement about this very inattentively. He made it clear that the Russian national team is not going, but it’s not forbidden to go alone. Thus, there is no formal boycott of the UI (after all, in the case of a boycott by any country it will be suspended for 2 games ) .In addition, he clearly hinted to the athletes and bureaucrats from the Olympic Games that he perfectly understands all this fuss. That, despite the fierce doping control of those from Russia who will go there, anyway they will quarrel and lose their medals after some time .so let the loners think well before poking around there.
    6. +9
      6 December 2017 19: 06
      Quote: skeptic31
      There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules.

      There is another saying - "in a game without rules, invent your own rules." Maybe it’s time to bend the west on a large scale, can’t we really find weaknesses?
      1. +5
        6 December 2017 21: 16
        Do not bend, because all "bendors" are completely dependent on the "bend"
    7. +22
      6 December 2017 19: 07
      Something tells me that the shame will continue with the World Cup, spent the money, arranged the stadiums and mustache ..
      1. +13
        6 December 2017 19: 30
        The most interesting thing is, what will our football players do in this World Cup? Ceiling - get to the quarter finals.
        1. +2
          6 December 2017 23: 31
          Talk is already underway that the 2018 World Cup will be held in Russia, but without the participation of the Russian team
          The Russian national football team may be suspended from participation in the home world championship. At least, such a proposal was recently made by the head of the Institute of National Anti-Doping Agencies (iNADO) Joseph de Pensie. “Any international competition can continue without any country,” said the sports functionary. In addition, he added that he “sees no difficulty” with the removal of the Russian national team. “I admit it is hard to imagine in practice, but why not?” Said De Pensier. He explained the following about the reasons for the need to remove Russian football players.
          According to the head of iNADO, FIFA should remove the Russian team from participating in the 2018 World Cup if it is proved that the players are involved in the “state doping system”. De Pencier is sure that the International Football Federation needs to urgently start an investigation about doping in football of the Russian Federation, because otherwise, with the 2018 World Cup “there is a big problem”.
          Source: tsargrad.tv
      2. +4
        6 December 2017 20: 22
        But did anyone stop there? If they have a handicap then they will use it. Why should they lose their position.
      3. +1
        6 December 2017 20: 48
        Already this cannot be ruled out ... or is today's deflection so that the 2018 World Cup is not taken away?
        1. +1
          7 December 2017 03: 18
          Just deflection increases the likelihood that they will be taken away.
    8. +13
      6 December 2017 19: 08
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules.

      As in the USSR: voiced the speech of the Secretary General? But like this
      "In conclusion, Vladimir Vladimirovich noted that the athlete must understand who raised him and which country."
      So, the author somehow very frivolously wrote the last paragraph
    9. +7
      6 December 2017 19: 28
      Today, December 6, Shoigu reported to Putin about the complete defeat of the Islamic State in Syria. For victory! drinks
      1. +29
        6 December 2017 19: 37
        Today, the Tsar declared that he remains the Tsar for a new term and caved in under the IOC.

        Glory to the Tsar, now you can push the medal and the homeland aside.
        All for the election of the Tsar for a new term.
        1. +3
          6 December 2017 20: 38
          Quote: stas
          Today, the Tsar declared that he remains the Tsar for a new term and caved in under the IOC.

          This is not a royal matter - to deal with the IOC. The main thing is not to lose the war.
        2. 0
          7 December 2017 07: 58
          Do not jerk and be more constructive in your statements
      2. +1
        6 December 2017 20: 51
        Oh oh Or is it like in the USSR, good news by the time the candidate is nominated?
        1. 0
          7 December 2017 04: 18
          No, it’s like in the USA - pour all the slops immediately by the time the candidate is nominated.
          And yes, what was wrong with the good news in the USSR?
          Or do you need to write only bad news?
    10. +32
      6 December 2017 19: 31
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace.

      Russian authorities will not impede the participation of Russian athletes in the 2018 Olympic Games in Pyeongchang, ready to perform under a neutral flag.

      THAT'S ALL! Words about the greatness of the nation, victories, self-esteem ... all in the toilet.
      Perform under the flag of CAPITULATION ... hmm ... His father who fought in a coffin is now turning over.
      1. +1
        6 December 2017 19: 57
        Isinbayeva appealed to athletes not to boycott the Olympics. Elena motivated this by the fact that our athletes will be announced that they are Russian and will know all this by the color of their uniforms. If this were possible at the last Olympics, she would also have agreed to speak.
        1. +17
          6 December 2017 20: 01
          Quote: siberalt
          Isinbayeva appealed to the athlete with a call not to boycott the Olympics. Elena motivated this by the fact that our athletes will be announced that they are Russian and will know all this by the color of their uniforms. If this were possible at the last Olympics, she would also have agreed to speak, she added.

          I don’t give a damn ... under the white flag, it’s not our athletes who are performing, but our country in general. AND I UNDER THIS WHITE FLAG WILL NEVER. FUCK THEM, NOT CAPITULATION!
          My flag is this ..

          the meaning of the colors of the flag of Russia: white means peace, purity, purity, perfection; blue - the color of faith and fidelity, constancy; red color symbolizes energy, strength, blood shed for the Fatherland.
          1. +6
            6 December 2017 20: 30
            This is the presidential standard, not the flag of Russia. I agree with everything else.
      2. +3
        6 December 2017 20: 29
        Quote: NEXUS
        THAT'S ALL! Words about the greatness of the nation, victories, self-esteem ... all in the toilet.
        Perform under the flag of CAPITULATION ... hmm ... His father who fought in a coffin is now turning over

        Andrew. I don’t like this story myself, but honestly. Drive in the mountains, swim at a speed behind a shell and then, at a speed, return it where it was taken, endure endless injuries and sprains. Be able to recover quickly. Well, how to ban perform at the main start? I still "sunbathed" at the Olympic base of the Soviet Union.
        And count, my niece, the Mogul Champion of Russia among juniors and my brother forbade performing because the teammate broke her finger. Do you know how she wept? Every night, he says that he dreams, like going down, like jumping.
        Further. We won the last Games, just under the Olympic flag (without a victory in the hockey tournament, the winter Olympic Games were not won). Then there was a tragedy, now we need to turn it into a farce. We are obliged to drive a nail into the lid of the coffin of the IOC. Hockey tournament without the KHL. OI are neutered and let them rejoice, smile and wave the Russian tricolor. And athletes should not be allowed because the Sofa experts so want, who after the competition did not run up the stairs, because everything hurts and you need to walk at least somehow. This is nonsense of a selfish hi
        1. +16
          6 December 2017 20: 38
          Quote: Tusv
          This is nonsense of a selfish

          Selfishness has nothing to do with it, Vladimir. This humiliation is not of athletes, but of the whole country. What nafig white flag? And tomorrow they’ll say that instead of a flag, they’ll appear under someone’s family shorts ... and snag it again? It is clear that it hurts our athletes. All my life I’ve been preparing and now this ... but I'm sorry, but where are the adequate steps of the Guarantor to protect our rights and dignity? Can you tell me?
          Today, he, coupled with all this rabble, the IOC spat in the soul, calling to become the white flag. I myself am a sportsman in the past (a master of sports in chess) ... but I would not go to this public humiliation. And I won’t stand under this flag, forgive me. (And to root for my guys, who are flying the white flag, this is to become under this very flag). And this is not for me. I will stop respecting myself.
          1. 0
            6 December 2017 21: 03
            Quote: NEXUS
            And tomorrow they’ll say that instead of a flag, they’ll appear under someone’s family shorts ... and snag it again? It is clear that it hurts our athletes. All my life I’ve been preparing and now this ... but I'm sorry, but where are the adequate steps of the Guarantor to protect our rights and dignity? Can you tell me?

            Personally, from principle, I will wave the imperial flag and sing "God save the king, Strong, Sovereign," which I advise our athletes to sing. Troll Mok, so troll to the fullest. And so my position is, I’ll voice it again. Prescribe in the Criminal Code the item “E” in the article Terrorism for Bach and his nobles, with Rodchenko everything is clear - Kashchenko’s life. And the ban on KHL players to compete in the Olympics. Fortunately, the Russian Olympic team won the pre-Olympic tournament. That will be enough for me. And the Boys and Girls will calmly perform and the IOC will not get sickly hi
            1. +6
              6 December 2017 21: 12
              Quote: Tusv
              That will be enough for me.

              But I don’t ... excuse me ..
              You can escape from the enemy, but you cannot escape from shameful glory.
              1. +1
                6 December 2017 21: 26
                Quote: NEXUS
                But I don’t ... excuse me ..

                What to excuse then. That's your opinion. I have no right to disrespect. Athletes have something else. But I don’t care where the adversary accepts a fierce death. On a pitchfork, like 1812, from a nuclear weapon or as described, the main thing is that it should be plentifully blood hi
                And for this you need to know your trick, how to suddenly produce it and finally with the other hand hi
          2. Alf
            +6
            6 December 2017 22: 02
            Quote: NEXUS
            and where are the adequate steps of the Guarantor to protect our rights and dignity?

            He has already admitted that we ourselves are to blame.
            1. 0
              6 December 2017 22: 22
              Quote: Alf
              He has already admitted that we ourselves are to blame.

              Again, the main slogan of the Athlete, - Not Won means lost, That is, he did not endure in training. And the fact that we ourselves are to blame is like no reason at all. Americans are more afraid than Us. Next on the list is Isil, Mossad. and finally Ebola. We are the fifth in fears in the "golden" billion.
              But! Russia is strong in tolerance. It’s necessary to carefully explain that “Zolotar” is such a profession that deals with a very smelly business - this is the business of Poland and other Baltic tigroffs hi
          3. +6
            6 December 2017 23: 16
            Quote: NEXUS
            And tomorrow they’ll say that instead of a flag, they’ll appear under someone’s family shorts ... and snag it again?
            Under the used condom will offer to speak. The logical ending for the "neutral" athletes and the "tolerant" state.
      3. +11
        6 December 2017 21: 14
        NEXUS Today, 19:31 ↑

        THAT'S ALL! Words about the greatness of the nation, victories, self-esteem ... all in the toilet.
        Perform under the flag of CAPITULATION ... hmm ... His father who fought in a coffin is now turning over.
        What a father ?! Here we are talking about how to justify the trust of the owners, that is, sorry, partners.
    11. +2
      6 December 2017 19: 34
      People are not afraid of the past or even the present, because it is an instant, but the future is frightening them. Therefore, look from the future and imagine what people will say later if Putin and others make a decision. Therefore, personally, I can definitely say that very cautious decisions of the president only strengthen the authority and understanding of his wisdom
      1. +14
        6 December 2017 19: 40
        what will people say
        from the future they will also say about him that they are now talking about Yeltsin. Then many were happy that they had finally made friends with America.
        1. 0
          6 December 2017 20: 39
          Quote: Gardamir
          from the future they will also say about him that they are now talking about Yeltsin.

          Our descendants will say about Yeltsin that he kept the country from collapse.
          1. +7
            6 December 2017 20: 45
            Our descendants will say about Yeltsin that he kept the country from collapse.
            Maybe. Kolya is sorry for the peaceful Germans, who were destroyed by the NKVD tyrant Stalin.
            1. 0
              6 December 2017 20: 58
              Quote: Gardamir
              Kolya is sorry for the peaceful Germans, who were destroyed by the NKVD tyrant Stalin.

              I don’t know who there was a pity for the stake, but in the nineties our country was really on the verge of collapse.
          2. 0
            7 December 2017 06: 19
            Soviet Union?
            1. 0
              7 December 2017 20: 36
              Quote: vinschu
              Soviet Union?

              Russian Federation.
      2. +11
        6 December 2017 20: 11
        So we look from the future at Humpback and EBN whose affairs Putin continues.
        Hunchback and EBN were also protected by the hangers-on and licked to shine.
        Watch sickening of the future, deceived us to the fullest. And the modern Tsar is not a fact that the Eagle will look.
      3. Alf
        +4
        6 December 2017 22: 04
        Quote: gridasov
        that very cautious decisions of the president only strengthen the authority and understanding of his wisdom

        Add-Among his friends.
    12. +20
      6 December 2017 19: 46
      It is disgusting and embarrassing to the toothlessness of our leadership! Ofi.get - “we are still to blame” ... In principle, Putin said everything with this phrase ... sad
    13. SOF
      +6
      6 December 2017 20: 00
      Well .............
      To sum up:
      All that they wanted, Western creatures, in front of an elected company, they achieved.
      Enough ocean shit to read in this thread.
      HELPFUL YOU ALL !!!!
      Well, it’s still weak to push that the supreme GUILTY is that Crimea took the Ukrina away because of what we were cut off the Olympics and ????
      Well .... let's .... who is the most, the most truth-teller!


      Ugh on you .... Even the raspberry thieves in the Great Patriotic War did not allow themselves to wave the enemy like that.
      1. +2
        6 December 2017 21: 03
        Quote: SOF
        HELPFUL YOU ALL !!!!

        It should be understood that the total war is underway against Russia, and a good half of commentators, and in this topic more than the State Deputies mercenaries, are our brothers who work with them. Of course, they don’t scream to Ukraine, but they even manage to whine positive news, then wait for such a topic.
      2. +6
        6 December 2017 22: 07
        Quote: SOF
        that the supreme GUILTY is that Crimea took away from urkainy because of what we were cut off the Olympics and ????

        Already had, someone pulled today about it. Yes Shit boils in the evening, it is understandable. Not everyone can resist, so as not to blurt out hot (and someone intentionally), but then, as they say, shouting at the lobby? By the way, time is still rampant - both before the Sabbath in the form of UI, and before the election. By the way, this turbidity will not be reflected in the elections in any way, because the passions have already subsided. As for these XXX games, they still need to take place, yeah. After all, someone has Pyeongchang-2018, and someone has Hwason-15.
      3. +2
        6 December 2017 22: 08
        Quote: SOF
        All that they wanted, Western creatures, in front of an elected company, they achieved.

        Yes of course. In a nightmare, he dreamed of Vladimir Vladimirovich in his fourth term and wiped bloody sweat. Well it lope they still put up with GDP? Horror. They changed the diaper there, but they defeated the pitotse five hundred times. Yeah
      4. Alf
        +8
        6 December 2017 22: 09
        Quote: SOF
        Well, it’s still weak to push that the supreme GUILTY is that Crimea took the Ukrina away because of what we were cut off the Olympics and ????

        Crimea was squeezed out for one simple reason - the Americans honestly stated that their bases would be there, and the time of arrival would be such that no one in the non-rubber would have time to get away. After which the second step will be taken, the forced dismissal of the guarantor from work. And it’s not at all a passionate love for Crimeans and pain for them.
        1. SOF
          +1
          6 December 2017 22: 16
          ... under article 33 of the dismissal?
          But it’s only, upon the fact of the Crimean and Syrian operations, it turned out that the Supreme has his own personnel department, and moreover, much more effective.
          wassat
          Yes Yes Yes...
          good burn more!
          1. +1
            6 December 2017 23: 17
            Article 33 dismissal?

            Yeah. Point "Ge" - a systematic booze at work. So be forgiven by the IOC to a minimum laughing But damn eftanasia is prohibited in us am
      5. +4
        6 December 2017 22: 48
        and so they consider only 5 ro, but in the remaining comments it is clear that people are worried about the country for the country and for what they are doing and who does it, the Crimea is not in dispute, that's right .... and the Su-24 (tomatoes) are ambassadors with Obama .... consulates, flags, and so on, but about the raspberry thieves in WWII there were all sorts of .....
      6. +1
        7 December 2017 01: 22
        SOF, 20 p.m. Crimea from Ukraine took away ?! Or changed the Crimea to the outskirts? Or surrendered the outskirts of the Americans? How is it that Russia is being squeezed since the days of Gorbachev? Does Gorbachev’s business live and flourish? How is it that under the wise Tsar, our former union republics and social block partners are moving away from Russia towards the West? To summarize the battle. They have no way back. We will close the bridge by ourselves!
    14. +18
      6 December 2017 20: 25
      He actually admitted all the accusations against us .... honestly, I'm shocked.
    15. +19
      6 December 2017 20: 44
      I agree. Completely. This is a shame for our country. We openly spat in the face, and our leaders took and wiped themselves.
      Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Catherine II, and Comrade Stalin - turn over in a coffin. The shame and disgrace of today's Russia.
      1. +6
        6 December 2017 21: 00

        I did not vote and I will not be for Putin.
        1. +4
          6 December 2017 21: 12
          Yes and no - one hell will vote for you.
        2. 0
          7 December 2017 05: 16
          Yes, if we choose Navalny, all athletes will travel to the Olympics without any problems.
          1. +1
            7 December 2017 11: 25
            But why immediately drag the Anal. There is Zhirik and someone there from the Communist Party — that’s what I’ll be for one of them.
    16. +2
      6 December 2017 21: 05
      skeptic31 Today, 18:51 For the Motherland! For Stalin! For the whole ballot from me.
    17. +1
      7 December 2017 05: 13
      Everything is correct if you reason with everyday categories. However, the Olympics and sports, like any show business in general, are a lot of money that someone needs to learn. And where there is money, conscience, pride and other moral concepts do not work. To humiliate yourself, to humiliate the country that nurtured you or not, this should be decided by each individual athlete.
    18. 0
      7 December 2017 10: 07
      So what - ban to your athletes?
      This is a personal matter for everyone. For example, under the USSR they would have sold a "joint protest." And now - try selling - you will come across as the authorizer of the authoritarianism.
      And so - a completely mature approach: those who “don't care” about the “contempt” of the adversary about the attributes of the country take part, and whoever is principled has the right to refuse. Democracy, however, does not infringe anyone.
  2. +8
    6 December 2017 18: 53
    Well, it was necessary to act two years ago! And not on the fact of what happened, although this was known in advance.
    1. +10
      6 December 2017 19: 05
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, it was necessary to act two years ago! And not on the fact of what happened, although this was known in advance.

      Everything was clear for a long time and dragged to the last these WADA and IOC to the last, and Russian officials, as always thought, maybe they dare not.
    2. +11
      6 December 2017 19: 27
      Quote: 210ox
      And not after the fact, although it was known in advance.

      Nothing was known in advance ....
      And only when he began to take away medals and disqualify our athletes for life, it became clear that the Olympics in Korea hung in the air. Moreover, this was done right next to the decision of the IOC on the participation of the Russian team in Pyeongchang.
      There is a chance that such a violation of the presumption of innocence in a doping scandal will be challenged in court. But who will say that CAS in Lausanne is not a branch of WADA?
      The whole process of defamation and humiliation began when Judah from RUSADA was given free rein and allowed to "sail" abroad. And now it’s too late to break spears and wring hands, they say, Green - insane. He was destined for the victim of "bloody Putin's gebni", and all his visible and subtle deviations from the norm would be interpreted in his favor - he could not bear, unhappy, the pressure of the Russian leadership, tortured by their demands "to give a result."
      Those. a filmets in 3's parts from the "independent" German Russophobe from journalism appeared on order, and most importantly - on time.
    3. +3
      6 December 2017 22: 02
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, it was necessary to act two years ago! And not on the fact of what happened, although this was known in advance.

      Legkov has only recently been given a motivation for his disqualification !!! are there really no brains in order to understand that, in time, everything has been specially adjusted so specially ??? wassat wassat wassat Of course, it is clear that only you are all smart here, and Putin is to blame for everything, but nevertheless ..... !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      1. 0
        7 December 2017 03: 46
        Naturally, specially adjusted in time. They know what they are doing and why. Unlike us. Is there really something missing to understand that it was necessary to PREPARE for such a development of events. And preparing seriously. And we have something like Rodchenkov — even the German magazine journalist is alive and well and very well-fed. In the end, in the country, did the ice axes end?
  3. +52
    6 December 2017 18: 53
    Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.
    1. +7
      6 December 2017 18: 56
      Remarkable words of Churchill. Just our case.
      1. +2
        6 December 2017 20: 44
        Quote: Mih1974
        Rostislav

        Quote: Mih1974
        Mih1974

        Learn Russian our non-Russian friends, the "Olympics" and "war" are not synonyms.
        It would be a shame if our government now began to make extra body movements, giving this mouse fuss around the Olympics extra weight. And so our guarantor sent everyone to Xren, only politely.
        PySy Now if in Syria they lost for the sake of the Olympics (and there were precedents) then it would be a shame.
        1. +11
          6 December 2017 21: 08
          Quote: KaPToC
          And so our guarantor sent everyone to Xren, only politely.

          Including all his people, including his warring father.
          It is shameful to be a slave if it is slavery ... voluntary.
          1. +3
            6 December 2017 21: 20
            Quote: NEXUS
            Including all his people, including his warring father.

            How much pathos, and this is just an olympiad, here they didn’t participate in Eurovision and, again, it didn’t get any worse. Millions of Russians don’t give a damn about the Olympics, I didn’t look at the previous ones and I won’t look at this and nothing will change from the absence or presence of our team.
            1. +5
              6 December 2017 21: 25
              Quote: KaPToC
              How much pathos, but this is just an Olympics,

              Seriously? Victories at the Olympics clearly show how developed the country is and how much time it devotes to the health of the nation in general. If everyone wouldn’t give a damn, dear, it wouldn’t matter how many medals we take at the Olympics. Although like the Cameroon team at the Winter Olympics ...
              Victory at the Olympics is an indicator of the development and health of the nation.
              Do you care? So this is your attitude towards the life of your country .... what can I say?
              1. +6
                6 December 2017 22: 18
                Quote: NEXUS
                Seriously? Victories at the Olympics clearly show how developed the country is, and how much time it devotes to the health of the nation in general.

                Quote: NEXUS
                Victory at the Olympics is an indicator of the development and health of the nation.

                You are absolutely wrong. Sports of high achievements and the health of the nation are at the opposite poles. Sports victories show how developed the production of combat stimulants is in the country.
                Quote: NEXUS
                Do you care? So this is your attitude towards the life of your country .... what can I say?

                Professional sport is an entertainment industry, it doesn’t show or improve anything in the country.
        2. Alf
          +10
          6 December 2017 22: 10
          Quote: KaPToC
          And so our guarantor sent everyone to Xren, only politely.

          Whom did he send? He sent us, ordinary Russian people.
          1. -1
            7 December 2017 04: 23
            So go on. What are you jumping under the red flags?
            Here I am, an ordinary Russian man. Nobody sent me anywhere.
          2. 0
            7 December 2017 10: 44
            Maybe he sent you, but not me
    2. +19
      6 December 2017 18: 57
      And she, this war will be permanent. If we behave like that on the international scene .. Give a hand to those who spit at her, Smile to those whose ancestors shot in the back to our fathers and grandfathers ...
      Quote: Rostislav
      Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.
    3. +9
      6 December 2017 18: 59
      Whoever tries to fence off the criminal and drug addict by any means is the criminal and drug addict himself!
      1. 0
        6 December 2017 19: 21
        Quote: Rostislav
        Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.

        And let's not tear your hair ahead of time.
        Just do not forget that the main team played at the Karel Cup, and somewhere there, at the same time, the Russian Olympic hockey team. In general, the ban on the performance of KHL hockey players still hangs with the Domocle Sword over the IOC.
        1. +4
          6 December 2017 20: 59
          Nothing hanging. They said if you do not let the players go to the Olympics, we will be promoted to the 2018 World Hockey Championship. The reaction to our inability to protect is already there, we are already spread rot in other directions.
          1. 0
            6 December 2017 21: 12
            Quote: Kent0001
            Nothing hanging. They said if you do not let the players go to the Olympics, we will be promoted to the 2018 World Hockey Championship.

            What is it like? Canada is yes, and the United States in IIHF No one can even call. Empty place. Let them talk. Neither hot nor cold
    4. +1
      6 December 2017 19: 23
      Quote: Rostislav
      Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.

      beautiful, Th and Butsk was going to fight? The Chinese even protested
  4. +17
    6 December 2017 18: 55
    In general, to declare a boycott of the OI up to the year 2024. To put things in order, the budget of the moka will also drop and the status will be different.
    1. +30
      6 December 2017 19: 00
      The money that we pay to the IOC to send to children's sports schools .. And without any expenses on the "little things" like Zenith Arena ...
      Quote: Twodi
      In general, to declare a boycott of the OI up to the year 2024. To put things in order, the budget of the moka will also drop and the status will be different.
      1. +15
        6 December 2017 19: 04
        And the most interesting is that no one will bear any responsibility for this.
        1. +12
          6 December 2017 19: 24
          And this is already the notorious "personnel policy of Putin" ... There are untouchables, in love!
          Quote: Twodi
          And the most interesting is that no one will bear any responsibility for this.
          1. +16
            6 December 2017 20: 24
            You know, I work for a company that services offshore oil and gas platforms. So now the crisis, projects are closing, the market is oversaturated. The company gets rid of the courts but did not fire a single office worker, and that's because only relatives are sitting in the office. And the dismissal of at least one clan war will begin)))) Although there is no sense in the benefits of many workers now ... It is the same in the state, but how to dismiss him is a relative ...
            1. +4
              6 December 2017 21: 28
              These relatives have become more stubborn than other monuments .. And you can’t move and plant ..
              Quote: Twodi
              You know, I work for a company that services offshore oil and gas platforms. So now the crisis, projects are closing, the market is oversaturated. The company gets rid of the courts but did not fire a single office worker, and that's because only relatives are sitting in the office. And the dismissal of at least one clan war will begin)))) Although there is no sense in the benefits of many workers now ... It is the same in the state, but how to dismiss him is a relative ...
      2. +8
        6 December 2017 19: 07
        and be sure to throw poop those who jerk for medals under a white rag, they are Vlasov!
        1. +20
          6 December 2017 19: 22
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and be sure to throw poop those who jerk for medals under a white rag, they are Vlasov!

          They are gay people and here is their flag for the Olympics ...
          1. +3
            6 December 2017 19: 41
            Quote: Barkhan
            They are gay people and here is their flag for the Olympics ...

            We thought that it was a fan of the Imperial Flag to wave - Black - yellow - white with a two-headed Eagle and sing "God Save the Tsar."
            Well, so that it feels better over the hill
      3. +10
        6 December 2017 19: 33
        Would it be better to find out how many of our officials feed from one participant in the Olympic Games? belay
    2. +41
      6 December 2017 19: 01
      It’s much more preferable to leave their OK in general, that is, to announce that OK has lost our trust and that we, as a Country, will not participate more in the Flag or money (they go to the phallus). Let them do what they want there. And it is better to spend money wasted on walking footballers in the sports section for children !! What exactly would the children grow up strong and healthy, and the fact that they won’t let us go somewhere - look at the USA, they have "their own" football "and" bast shoes "that no one else in the world is watching or participating !! And they are spinning there huge money, huge popularity in the Country and EVERYTHING is satisfied.Here is the right example for Russia as for the Country.
      PySY: to be honest - I was disappointed in Putin, and no matter how personally my voice was “small” I won’t vote for it anymore. Because he allowed to humiliate Russia like that. negative
      1. +4
        6 December 2017 19: 24
        But who knows what he said? But what he will do, we will see soon;)
        1. +5
          6 December 2017 19: 45
          Quote: Midshipman
          But who knows what he said? But what he will do, we will see soon;)

          If, as a result, not a single athlete travels from Russia, without some obvious pressure, then yes - I believe, I will take a few words back and apologize in public!
          1. +3
            6 December 2017 20: 15
            The first Russian athlete agreed to speak at the 2018 Olympics with a neutral flag.
            Six-time Olympic short track champion Viktor An announced his readiness to take part in the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang with a neutral flag. The Russian athlete said that he would compete if the Russian leadership did not decide on a boycott of the Olympics.
            1. +4
              7 December 2017 03: 54
              Well, this bribe is smooth. He is not quite ours and has already changed the flag once.
          2. 0
            7 December 2017 12: 15
            [b
            ] If in the end no athlete will travel from Russia
            [/B]
            Reread, please, the article! Not a single athlete will travel from Russia. Athletes (all who wish) will go on their own, no one will represent the country (here - Russia)!
        2. Alf
          +5
          6 December 2017 22: 12
          Quote: Midshipman
          But who knows what he said? But what he will do, we will see soon;)

          Yes, yes, another apologist for HPP.
          1. -1
            7 December 2017 04: 28
            I will reveal a terrible secret. Absolutely all constantly make up various plans. Some are tricky, some are not.
            Is Putin an exception, and has no plans? Share the information.
      2. +24
        6 December 2017 19: 28
        Quote: Mih1974
        PySY: to be honest - I was disappointed in Putin, and no matter how personally my voice was “small” I won’t vote for it anymore. Because he allowed to humiliate Russia like that.

        Until recently, I thought that he would stand up for his homeland, but no ... he is not a patriot, he is a liberal. And his friends are liberals and oligarchs. Not only will I not vote for him, I will also agitate 50 people who do not care for anyone. what he did in the army is called to pull the brain even more so before the election. And if the Westerners win in Russia, then you have to drink poison in The Hague ... not to sit on three chairs.
        1. +12
          6 December 2017 19: 53
          Quote: Barkhan
          , then you have to drink poison in The Hague ... do not sit on three chairs.

          With his throwing between these chairs, Putin will completely wrap liberals against himself and push patriots away without any support.
          1. +26
            6 December 2017 20: 07
            Quote: albert
            Quote: Barkhan
            , then you have to drink poison in The Hague ... do not sit on three chairs.

            With his throwing between these chairs, Putin will completely wrap liberals against himself and push patriots away without any support.

            After his speech, he ran through patriotic sites and discussions of caring .... 70 percent of the comments ... hell to him, not a vote in the election. Who needs spineless and weak-willed leaders who spit on the opinion of the people. And the opinion of the people in 95 percent is a boycott. Three years ago, Putin was my president. Two years ago he began to doubt. Now I think he has nothing more to do in the Kremlin, he shaved that right ...Better a jester Zhirinovsky or a brake Zyuganov ...
            1. SOF
              +1
              6 December 2017 21: 02
              Quote: Barkhan
              . Better a jester Zhirinovsky or a brake Zyuganov ...

              I can directly see how the cattle of the relatives and the entire shushera of the Shtatovskaya rubbing their hands while reading your pearls. Patriots, damn it .............
              And what, bucks chrenolion in bulk drenched and even less damage, in the info war, inflict more than the stench from jars of urine ........
              1. +15
                6 December 2017 21: 18
                Quote: SOF
                reading your pearls. Patriots, damn it

                That is, my words and the words of 90% of writers also harm the country? Is Putin’s deflection useful, or what? And, what are these words “we are a little guilty”? This, who, we? It’s his fault. And his ministers. And I never said that I’m a patriot of Putin. I’m a patriot of Russia. The only what Putin did good for all the years of power, he returned the Crimea. Everything else was a shit. How much money was withdrawn abroad during the years of his rule? You take an interest. And in the end, by law, the president can be in power only two terms. He’s already out the law.
              2. +10
                6 December 2017 21: 32
                Quote: SOF
                I can directly see how the cattle of the relatives and the entire shushera of the Shtatovskaya rubbing their hands while reading your pearls. Patriots, damn it .............

                Here is another answer to your words...
                1. SOF
                  +1
                  6 December 2017 21: 59
                  Bullshit. You do not realize that someone is rubbing this rubbish under the lid of the skull box not just folding it, but already pushing it stubbornly .... Vibrations are not felt ?????
                  Who is the main beneficiary of all this shit? You or someone overseas?
                  Two terms? Read the latest history and constitution until 2012 in the “maybe two terms” section.
                  Who is sleeping and seeing that the Russians will not come at all? Phelpses, Fourcades, Williams brothers. Only they could come in spite, although the nobleman replied to us. There is no question about this. Are we offended? Yes, they carry water offended. What did Rodchenkov say on Twitter? "I will bury Russian sport for five years." So help him ?????
                  And to tear off specialists from sports who lost the flash after Rio de Janeiro is the holy duty of the authorities. Nobody argues with this.
                  1. +8
                    6 December 2017 22: 30
                    Quote: SOF
                    What did Rodchenkov say on Twitter? I will bury Russian sport for five years.

                    Yes, to hell with him, a schizophrenic. That's all, he is no longer interested in mattresses (never Snowden). Even his lawyer said that the hacker will now have to walk and look around until the end of the days (I hope that soon). Here the thing is different: all world sport is decaying, turning into a gesheft (commercial or political), for the implementation of which all means are good. And so around the world, and our pressanuli, for, just coincided. And it would be on the drum, as before other sanctions, but there is a moment ... That's just frankly - can you imagine our hockey team on a pedestal, but without an anthem and a flag? I do not have to answer, try to answer this question yourself.
                    Pa.S. May Kim help us. Yes
                    1. SOF
                      +2
                      6 December 2017 23: 25
                      You can imagine our national hockey team on a pedestal, but without HYMN and FLAG

                      Fair.,? I can not. Some wildness. That's because they spoiled the pitch.
                      One hope is that if they nevertheless climb into it, and even make the goat’s face in the final, then they will have enough normal Russian dope t-shirts with tricolor and eagles, pull them before rewarding, send everyone away and .... to the friendly accompaniment of the fans (and they simply cannot help but be there) roll them "Sacred Russia / Unbreakable Union" !!! And then, be it what will be, chest in crosses or head in bushes .....
                      1. 0
                        7 December 2017 04: 05
                        By this, they will just bury the scenario for which the party and the government are praying - that the IOC will keep the promise and withdraw the disqualification from our committee on the day the games are closed. It’s easier not to go right away.
                  2. +4
                    6 December 2017 22: 48
                    To bury Russian sport and refuse to participate in the Olympic Games are two different things. The tank biathlon of norms got to his feet, an excellent sport.
                    And it wasn’t the IOC who slapped the slap in the face ... Their very savory was weighed. It’s stupid to talk about patriotism and "we will still show everyone, only you don’t know how!" You are the head of the family - it's up to you. And then also explain why. And when you blurt out “I want so” without explanation, they can recognize and start sharing your hut without you as an old psycho.
            2. -1
              7 December 2017 04: 32
              Well, you see, there’s nothing to worry about. The victory of your mastermind is already in your pocket.
              Until the victory of freedom and democracy, a little remains.
              And then it will come, the long-awaited happiness.
              And then we will talk with you, if there is an opportunity of course.
              Tell us a story from the cycle “I don’t know why it happened”
          2. +2
            6 December 2017 21: 52
            Quote: albert
            Putin will throw liberals against himself by throwing them between these chairs and push the patriots away, without any support

            During the reign of Vladimir Vladimirovich, have you ever heard or seen quick decisions from GDP? So I have never. He will take revenge on the "unreasonable Khozars", irrevocably and mercilessly, otherwise I will not vote am
      3. +4
        6 December 2017 20: 37
        Quote: Mih1974

        PySY: to be honest - I was disappointed in Putin, and no matter how personally my voice was “small” I won’t vote for it anymore. Because he allowed to humiliate Russia like that. negative

        In Skolkovo and on Seliger, the "carousel" will launch. In an extreme case, will release this character from the bench ...
      4. +1
        6 December 2017 20: 56
        support .... also somehow disappointed
    3. +6
      6 December 2017 19: 06
      Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI? Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them? Or maybe let the athletes do without sofa advisers and decide for themselves what they should do, as the president says about this?
      1. +3
        6 December 2017 19: 17
        Quote: Alexsin
        Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI? Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them?

        How the olympiad was stolen from our country (Well, for this, well, for too independent politics), well, athletes have nothing to do with it request Many of them went to this Olympics at the peak of their form for half their lives! And blame the GDP for allowing it fellow We should rejoice, as it is, so to speak, a quality mark for the work done by the GDP, issued by the West to change something from impotence.
      2. +9
        6 December 2017 19: 28
        It is only advisable for those athletes who do not go to be awarded the State Prize with a subsequent appointment at the end of a career in public administration of Russian Sports!
        Quote: Alexsin
        Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI? Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them? Or maybe let the athletes do without sofa advisers and decide for themselves what they should do, as the president says about this?
      3. +40
        6 December 2017 19: 32
        But what about the best years spent by a miner in a mine, or a steelworker in a steel mill, and finally an officer and soldier in the army. Sport has long gone into business. And before that, the athlete began to imagine something of himself, the state “drove” a lot of money into it. And now that you are unhappy, they were preparing ... But doesn’t the hand tremble to receive millions of bonuses from the state for medals? I
      4. +21
        6 December 2017 19: 42
        Excuse me .... And whose athletes trained at what expense and on what infrastructure did they achieve results? If you really want to speak on behalf of the white flag, then let it be at your own expense.
      5. +35
        6 December 2017 19: 55
        Quote: Alexsin
        Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI?

        Listen, you athlete. I am a former military man and did not swear allegiance to EBN. And he did not dress in the American form, although it was at one time more convenient than our field. And at the parades and parade ground in our regiment, they did not raise a white flag ... I gave all my service to the armed forces and did not whine that some greasy face that had become an "effective manager" receives all my pension benefits for the day, which I can earn in the long run ... Their (athletes) business is to decide who they are with and what is more expensive for them. And the president ... He is the president today, and tomorrow, if he will provide our guarantees, he can be a simple pensioner, like a HMS, who will not care, like a coward and a traitor. We live on our means, like cheese in oil, we don’t skate, and here he raises arguments about the right of a citizen to love his homeland in sorrow and joy. He raised a generation of "patriots" lives in London and sends us warm greetings. Traitors go abroad, money from Russia goes to “offshore” ... What little mongrel doesn’t consider it his right to yap in our direction, and he will decide, himself, without “couch advisers” ... And who are his advisers? Sand? Sechin? Rogozin? Mutko with Zhukov? Seal your jingoistic radio and listen to what the elders say ...
      6. +6
        6 December 2017 21: 20
        Quote: Alexsin
        Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them?

        Athletes ate / lived / trained for the money of the country - the country decides to go or not to go. And by the way, if you are a supporter of the trip, will you pay 15 million from your pocket? Or, again, the whole country must chip in.
      7. +1
        7 December 2017 06: 35
        what is it with? athletes galaxy citizens? Well, let's decide everything ourselves .... scientists, doctors, teachers, military. they are the same no matter how they studied, worked,
    4. +1
      6 December 2017 19: 11
      a country inciting a boycott by an automatic machine for 2 periods of suspension - that is, until 2026
      1. +13
        6 December 2017 19: 26
        Well, the IOC machine would have remained without injections ..
        Quote: your1970
        a country inciting a boycott by an automatic machine for 2 periods of suspension - that is, until 2026
      2. +9
        6 December 2017 20: 34
        Quote: your1970
        a country inciting a boycott by an automatic machine for 2 periods of suspension - that is, until 2026

        Inciting other countries. Who can forbid us to boycott this coven? Say, with the wording "until the Olympic movement is fully recovered or until it is abolished."
      3. +1
        7 December 2017 06: 36
        Is there any certainty that they will not require Russia to go out with panties on its head for the next Olympiad? and what? with them will not? I'm somehow not sure
  5. +38
    6 December 2017 18: 55
    Firstly, it must be said bluntly that we ourselves are partly to blame for this, because we gave rise to this.

    Each guilty person has a specific surname, name and patronymic! For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...
    1. +9
      6 December 2017 18: 58
      Well, yes, GDP is to blame for all the troubles, isn’t it funny itself?
      1. +46
        6 December 2017 19: 13
        For your information, this V.V. Putin at the helm of the largest and richest country since 2000. What REALLY has changed for the better ?! Only the fact that on television about the government is only good or nothing, all the "achievements" are treated as victories ...
        How much can you spit in the face of your people ?! Wake up !!! Tupin leads everything according to the same plan as Yeltsin. If there are arguments to counterbalance, I wait!
        The rise of industry is one window dress !!!
        The rise of agriculture - window dressing!
        Medicine or education ??? Or the defense industry really revived - no! With Chinese and American microprocessors and other elements of microelectronics installed in our technology, we can not do anything ... Yes, we do not produce our products, this is reality !!!! Look at all the equipment in your apartments, if there is a Russian name there, then only imported filling under the body !!!
        Remember the domestic equipment "Rubin", "Record", "Vega", "Spring", "Carat", "Ishim", "Brig", "Carat", "Surf", "Electronics" ... even the Baltic "Radio Engineering" factory named after A.S. Popov! And the cars "Lada", "Volga", "The Seagull", the government "ZIL" or the automated space shuttle "BURAN" as well as other names that caused a sincere sense of pride !!!!
        What can you give as an example today ????? !!!! VAZ belonging to the Renault-Nissan concern, or the chocolate factory "Russia" which has long been sold to "Nestle" ??? And about the “Likhachev Plant” there is an excellent film: “ZIL. The Last Limousine,” please see it, the Government’s attitude to the cause of the people is very indicative.
        The watch factory “ZiM” which has not existed for a long time, as well as the best “Rocket” factory in the union now producing piece goods? .................. Wake up, people, Russians! !!!
        1. +7
          6 December 2017 19: 42
          “What has changed” - Well, most importantly, since 2000, the country's GDP has increased from 13 trillion to 75 - 83 trillion in 2017, secondly, gold and foreign exchange reserves have increased, in the third they have added Crimea, metallurgy, machine building, agriculture has grown, the electronic base is the same began to create, the sun began to receive modern technology and so on.
          1. +5
            6 December 2017 21: 03
            This is by the way not the most important thing. The country in the very first place has not yet collapsed - and as of 2000, everything was completely on its way to a further collapse. Putin undoubtedly has merits in Russia.

            Another matter is what challenges Russia is currently facing, and is its current policy fully in line with these challenges, and is Russia capable of even answering these challenges and getting out of the mess that is now brewed, if not a complete and unconditional winner, then though would be "at their own."
          2. +6
            6 December 2017 22: 26
            Quote: Vadim237
            “What has changed” - Well, most importantly, since 2000, the country's GDP has increased from 13 trillion to 75 - 83 trillion in 2017, secondly, gold and foreign exchange reserves have increased, in the third they have added Crimea, metallurgy, machine building, agriculture has grown, the electronic base is the same began to create, the sun began to receive modern technology and so on.

            Metallurgy?! Engineering?! Agriculture?
            Which reports did you take from what sources? Such names do not tell you:
            The Moskvich Plant (AZLK) (born 1930 - was killed in 2002)
            Plant "Red Proletariat" (b. 1857 - killed 2010) (only the year of the death of the enterprise will be indicated below)
            Izhevsk Motorcycle Plant 2009, Irbit Motorcycle Plant “Ural”, Pavlovsky Tool Plant 2011, Lipetsk Tractor Plant 2009, Altai Tractor Plant 2010, Shipbuilding Plant “Avangard” (Petrozavodsk) 2010,
            Ship repair plant OJSC "HC Dalzavod" (Vladivostok) 2009,
            Radio factory PO "Vega" (Berdsk, Novosibirsk region) 2001,
            Saratov Aviation Plant 2010, Omsk Transport Engineering Plant 2009 (nominally listed, but actually destroyed, previously produced tanks with a T-80 gas turbine engine), Chelyabinsk watch factory Molniya 2009, Uglich watch factory Chaika 2009,
            Penza watch factory "Dawn" 2000, Second Moscow watch factory "Slava" 2006,
            Chistopol watch factory "Vostok" 2010, Moscow Machine-Tool Plant named after Sergo Ordzhonikidze 2007, Plant Stankomash 2009, Ryazan Machine Tool Plant 2008, Kronstadt Marine Plant, 2005,
            Kuzbasselement Plant 2008, Irkutsk Radio Receivers Plant 2007,
            Precision casting plant "Centrolit" 2009, Tomsk Instrument Plant 2007,
            Sivinit Plant (Krasnoyarsk) 2004, Krasnoyarsk TV Factory 2003, Dynamo Plant (Moscow) 2009,
            Oryol plant managing computers named. K.N. Rudnev 2006,
            Orenburg Hardware Plant (genus 1943 - killed by 2009)
            Khabarovsk plant "EVGO" (genus 2000 - killed 2009)
            Ulyanovsk Radio Tube Plant (genus 1959 - killed by 2003)
            Plant them. Kozitsky (St. Petersburg) (genus 1853 - present in a coma after being wounded)
            Sibelektrostal Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1952 - killed by 2008)
            Orenburg silk fabric factory “Orenburg Textile” (genus 1972 - killed by 2004)
            Barysh factory them. Gladysheva (Ulyanovsk Region) (genus 1825 - killed by 2005)
            Flax Association them. I.D. Zvorykina (Kostroma) (genus 1939 - killed by 2011)
            Kamyshinsky cotton mill them. Kosygina (Volgograd Region) (genus 1955 - present in a coma after being wounded)
            Trekhgornaya manufactory (Moscow) (genus 1799 - present in a coma after being wounded)
            Far Eastern Radio Plant (Komsomolsk-on-Amur) (genus 1993 - killed by 2009)
            Bicycle plant (Yoshkar-Ola) (genus 1950 - killed 2006)
            Bicycle plant (Nizhny Novgorod) (genus 1940 - killed 2007)
            Perm Bicycle Plant (genus 1939 - killed by 2006)
            Baltic Shipyard 2011
            Sibtyazhmash Plant (Krasnoyarsk) 2011
            Khimprom Plant (Volgograd) 2010
            Irkutsk driveshaft plant 2000
            Tchaikovsky Precision Engineering Plant (Perm Territory) 2000
            Izhmash Plant (Izhevsk) 2012
            The Ural Heavy Engineering Plant UZTM Uralmash is finishing off ...
            The aforementioned enterprises that went to the annals of history exclusively in the era of Tupino Russia, some are formally considered alive, but in fact they “exclusively” rent offices, etc.
            Regarding agriculture, I can do without numbers. Do you see / hear anything else in Russia besides the TV screen ?! Look what happens behind the Moscow Ring Road, the fields are empty, the farms are destroyed, the exception is the demonstration farms created for window dressing ....
            Army ... Earlier, the RF Armed Forces possessed a kalassal mobilization potential despite a weak level of combat training. At the moment, the institute of cropped units has been destroyed, we will fight by the fact that we have ... Cropped armies, regiments and divisions with headquarters and storage bases, which at the time of Ch could be equipped with reservists and deployed - no longer exist.
            As for the possible collapse at the beginning of the XNUMXs - If this had continued and Yeltsin himself had not left the throne, then the military would have dared him ... But this was not destined to happen.
            Take an interest in the fate of Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin, early and late newspapers on this subject are especially interesting.
            1. +3
              6 December 2017 23: 38
              "Look what is happening beyond the Moscow Ring Road, the fields are empty, the farms are destroyed, the exception is indicative farms created for window dressing." Yes, yes, and we don’t have record harvests and we don’t export agricultural products and in general we are stuffed with bush legs - the economy is broken up and we are an absolute gas station in the country - I think this is exactly what happens in your parallel universe.
              1. +3
                6 December 2017 23: 47
                "Omsk Transport Engineering Plant 2009 (nominally registered, but actually destroyed, previously produced tanks with a gas turbine engine T-80" Here is his website http://transmash-omsk.ru - the plant blooms and smells as part of UVZ.
                1. 0
                  7 December 2017 03: 41
                  you were there?
            2. +3
              7 December 2017 00: 09
              Quote: killganoff
              Baltic Shipyard 2011

              Oh how ... belay Dead men and zombies build atomic icebreakers wassat Happenes...
              Quote: killganoff
              Look what is happening outside the Moscow Ring Road,

              What is so half of the country on the Moscow Ring Road? request Suppose we have, in the swamps, deep on the drum and on the Moscow Ring Road, and on its "inside", yeah. We have our own ring road, and ZSD to the heap. And by the way, behind our Ring Road, the same C / X is more or less growing. Without any "center" news, there are enough local and personal observations, since I live on the border of the city. And our town is small, provincial Yes . In Soviet times, at the end of the era, it was called "The Great City with a regional fate." But we are not offended, no. We live for ourselves, work, and what we wish for you. hi
              1. +3
                7 December 2017 00: 21
                “Dead men and zombies build atomic icebreakers” - In a parallel world, this is possible.
                1. +2
                  7 December 2017 00: 55
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  In a parallel world, this is possible.

                  Yes, an unclear list. You can dig, some other "dead" will be resurrected. Yes
            3. 0
              7 December 2017 11: 01
              Try to work, feel better laughing
        2. +4
          6 December 2017 19: 55
          Automated Space Shuttle BURAN Unfortunately this project was a mistake, because it closed another more promising area - the creation of single-stage aerospace aircraft M 19 and Tu 2000, as well as the Bor project. At the expense of watch factories - they broke due to the fact that their products ceased to be popular - there was competition, in the new conditions it was necessary to be able to sell, foreign manufacturers pushed them all out of the market and everyone forgot about the watch industry in the 90s - and even now, few people remember.
        3. +3
          6 December 2017 21: 23
          Quote: killganoff
          For your information, this V.V. Putin has been at the helm of the largest and richest country since 2000. What REALLY has changed for the better ?!

          As I recall this "rich country" of the times of Bori-drunk - I will tremble
          1. +2
            6 December 2017 23: 51
            killganoff - Probably there in the "well-fed" 90s that he lost, he was one of the brothers along the way - "Putin is such a scoundrel, he has filled up business and thrust his friends into the jail."
      2. +12
        6 December 2017 19: 18
        Well, yes, GDP is to blame for all the troubles,
        you liberals everything is tolerantly divided. Putin for the Crimea, for the failures of Medvedev.
    2. +4
      6 December 2017 19: 03
      Quote: mark_rod
      Each guilty person has a specific surname, name and patronymic! For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

      You, as the Western media put it, "Putin is omnipotent!" wink
      Firstly, this is not his job. Yes, he probably could have done something, but he is not really omnipotent.
      Secondly, work on sports matters is the work of the ministry, i.e. Minister of Sport, and therefore his immediate boss, i.e. prime minister.
      1. +9
        6 December 2017 20: 03
        Quote: Kurare
        Secondly, work on sports matters is the work of the ministry, i.e. Minister of Sport, and therefore his immediate boss, i.e. prime minister.

        You, youngster, have not forgotten that "your humble galley slave" rewound the term with the Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012 ... Something during his premiership, there were no noticeable successes in the ministries. And, for your information, DAM did not come from a mushroom picker, and not Trump and Obama submitted it to the State Duma for approval ... Are you, by any chance, EdRos? And then you are all fools, and EdRo in chocolate ...
    3. +3
      6 December 2017 19: 30
      All questions - to Mutko and Co. Anto won assured - "... And we have a bunch ..."
    4. +2
      6 December 2017 20: 48
      Quote: mark_rod
      For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

      So as not to be an empty bell, say it to his face
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  7. +29
    6 December 2017 18: 57
    Here you have a multi-port from the guarantor - fall on four mosl. Note to all patriots - learn from Putin to love your homeland, kneeling
  8. +37
    6 December 2017 18: 58
    I can say this only in one word: SHAME!
    Can a white flag make STATE?
    I can say one thing - for me, personally, this Olympics does not exist.
    1. +9
      6 December 2017 19: 46
      Quote: VIA_56
      I can say one thing - for me, personally, this Olympics does not exist.

      For me, by the way, too ....
      Although ours are not so pressed, but also sensitively, personally for me all these Olympics are already an empty phrase. Especially against the background of these "crystal clear athletes"


      and the Norwegian ski team, consisting entirely of asthmatics ...
  9. +32
    6 December 2017 18: 58
    The rhetoric of TERPILA !!! Well, how much longer this ..... will spit in the face of his people? !!!!! Indeed, is it possible to yap at those who have his money and children ...
    The next step is to bikeot the 2018 World Cup ... We are waiting. For whom and what are our athletes preparing for the “white" flag? !!! What the hell patriotism! ???
    People, Russians, wake up !!!
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 19: 35
      Don’t dust you. What do you propose to pound on the podium with your boot? Only this is expected of us, to finally declare Mordor. You can not give in to provocation, because this is the purpose of provocation. As the bull said from an anecdote to an impatient bull-calf: now, we are slowly going down the mountain and devoting the whole herd.
    2. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 04
      Well, the World Cup is vryatly who will boycott, doping is not prohibited there - the calculation is based on the number of goals scored, especially since it can bring Russia a trillion rubles of profit that foreign sponsors and fans will bring.
      1. +4
        6 December 2017 20: 11
        What profit is there? At least partially recapture spent and stolen on the construction of stadiums for African blacks from Spartak and Zenith. lol
    3. +5
      6 December 2017 20: 08
      Vovchik learned from the “drunken master” - everything in the family. And we are not his relatives.
      1. 0
        7 December 2017 02: 17
        Quote: lexus
        Vovchik learned from the “drunken master” - everything in the family. And we are not his relatives.

        Go skittles suck lepsos.
    4. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 22
      What to wake up from? Who spits in the face of his people? And who is yapping here on the "hair dryer", but with errors? Hysteria is not necessary. "Bulked" at other sites hanging out.

      This is war. Now is our move. Come to the Olympics and pick up your medals (albeit under the "white" flag), is this a really bad answer? It’s just that Russia’s form this time. Another bad thing is the disqualification of leading athletes immediately before the Olympics. Let's hope that there is a reserve ready to replace “knocked out of the saddle” and adequately perform in difficult psychological conditions.
    5. +1
      6 December 2017 21: 35
      Quote: killganoff
      The rhetoric of TERPILA !!! Well, how much longer this ..... will spit in the face of his people? !!!!!

      IMHO Putin, this is the best thing that has happened to Russia over the past 100 years. Can you name the best ruler? Otherwise, your posts are a dumb cluck.
      1. +6
        7 December 2017 02: 17
        Joseph Vissarionovich did much more for the country than all subsequent rulers combined. This man never forgave betrayal and insults, so the fate of the IOC and WADA officials would be extremely unenviable.
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      3. +1
        8 December 2017 09: 06
        Quote: Winnie76
        IMHO Putin, this is the best thing that happened to Russia in recent years 100.

        100 years? No! Against the background of Joseph Vissarionovich, Vladimir Vladimirovich somehow fades. And significantly. But over the past 30 years - I agree.
  10. +18
    6 December 2017 18: 58
    We are driving in disgrace, and with a white flag. Congratulations to all.
    And yes, the decision must be made by the Olympic Assembly.
    1. +1
      6 December 2017 19: 14
      and nobody personally invited you there. so you can calmly lay yourself on the sofa and if you want with popcorn.
    2. +5
      6 December 2017 19: 53
      We are driving in disgrace, and with a white flag. Congratulations to all.

      Who goes with a white flag has lost in advance. Even if he shows the best result, they will still be banned, shaken with a test tube, they will say he took dope! Shame will be accepted twice!
    3. +1
      6 December 2017 21: 18
      Our new winners are under white - this time they will not receive the BMW X5, ten million rubles and much more - at least one joy will save billions of rubles.
  11. +30
    6 December 2017 18: 59
    Yes ..... After such words “like a guarantor”, “like a constitution” I want to go to the bathroom and pour a tub of cold water on myself !!! How painful, insulting !!! They are trying to wipe our feet about us, and this "leader" carries such rubbish !!! It is a pity that such a "person" will rule us in the coming years. And sports will go. For the dough. Patriots ......! Ugh !!!
    1. +6
      6 December 2017 19: 14
      It is a pity that such a "person" will rule us in the coming years.
      we’ll try, at least try to choose another.
      1. +10
        6 December 2017 19: 52
        Quote: Gardamir
        It is a pity that such a "person" will rule us in the coming years.
        we’ll try, at least try to choose another.

        Of the set that we are offered, the other can only be chosen by the insane or pro-Western militant liberalist!
        Children's game - put a couple of dozen poop and one cookie - who will choose what?
        1. +3
          6 December 2017 19: 56
          From that set
          not yet evening. Maybe that will change in the set.
      2. +4
        6 December 2017 19: 57
        Quote: Gardamir
        we’ll try, at least try to choose another.

        Duck, what if he has a rating of 146%? Here you have to choose other methods. I won’t hear them, otherwise they’ll put him like Kvachkova laughing
  12. +3
    6 December 2017 19: 00
    yes do not care olympiad
    Vladimir Putin, who announced today that he is running for the next presidential term
  13. +30
    6 December 2017 19: 00
    Personally, I will not watch the 2018 Olympics and the performances of athletes representing themselves ... what's interesting what nothing but the personal motives of the athletes themselves.
    Another person is killing me ... who will pay $ 15 million for the subversive activities of the WADA commission imposed by the IOC on RUSSIA ... really out of our pocket ...
    I'm talking about GDP as a taxpayer ...
    I am categorically against this
    am ... let this money be paid by the one who unwound the flywheel of the doping scandal ... that is, Rodchenkov and Maclaren.
    1. +18
      6 December 2017 19: 03
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Another person is killing me ... who will pay $ 15 million for the subversive activities of the WADA commission ... really out of our pocket.

      Well, it’s not out of Rottenberg’s pocket that you are asking frivolous questions. Of course, from the state.
      Repent and pay, and then pay and repent again.
      And this is just the beginning ...
    2. +6
      6 December 2017 19: 08
      Let those who go collect with donations. what kind of work - they compensate the state for the preparation!
    3. +7
      6 December 2017 19: 09
      since we, as a country, do not go to the Olympics - to hell with them and not money, let them interrupt from principles to kvass!
    4. +6
      6 December 2017 19: 19
      Alexei, there is still Rodchenkova’s sister. Interestingly, she sits behind the “doping scandal”, but he doesn’t, although she was “walking” toli to the suspect, toli to the suspect ...
    5. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 40
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      who will pay 15 million

      Well, have you already said that they will pay? In my opinion, you have to wait a day or two ... otherwise everything is on emotions ...
      As for Putin: “they can go in private” - everything is correct, but what else could he say that they will not let anyone out into the castle? Rave. If you want to go - go on, it's up to you. He cannot forbid anyone to go.
  14. +18
    6 December 2017 19: 00
    Oh, and Vladimir Vladimirovich will open the monument to Rodchenko & Stepanoff?
  15. +5
    6 December 2017 19: 00
    Who goes as a private trader - that guest worker.
    1. +5
      6 December 2017 19: 09
      he is a hairman! Vlasovite! execution (can be moral)
    2. +2
      6 December 2017 20: 16
      Private traders will not be. They will go at the expense of the state. Putin said.
      1. 0
        7 December 2017 07: 05
        Actually, the IOC promised to pay expenses to athletes from Russia.
  16. +23
    6 December 2017 19: 00
    Quote: killganoff
    The rhetoric of TERPILA !!! Well, how much longer this ..... will spit in the face of his people? !!!!!
    People, Russians, wake up !!!


    From this day on, they were allowed not to respect the flag and not to stand up while performing the anthem.
    1. +10
      6 December 2017 19: 56
      Valdai Club, November 13, 2017
      Putin about NOT ALLOWING the 2018 Olympics: REDUCE RUSSIA NOT GET IT !! OUR Answer will be FAST!

      Going to give up under the white flag? !!!
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      2. 0
        7 December 2017 10: 09
        Quote: Orphan 63
        Valdai Club, November 13, 2017
        Putin about NOT ALLOWING the 2018 Olympics: REDUCE RUSSIA NOT GET IT !! OUR Answer will be FAST!

        Going to give up under the white flag? !!!

        And where does Putin say a tough answer here? Wrote for those who will break the video to watch? Troll on a salary.
  17. +9
    6 December 2017 19: 05
    Anyone who is unprincipled, he can go with a white rag to Pchenkhan, bowing humiliatingly and repeating "ku" 100500 times. Only such athletes have no place under the flag of Russia in the following rips. So let them remain under the white flag, or let them sit under the flags of Fiji, Aruba and everyone else in the IOC, but let them fall under them .. I definitely won’t be rooting for these sufferers, but in the future I’ll also have the posters "hang out. And what could Putin say? - said to the "world community".
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 19: 12
      - said to the "world community".
      And that is true of the people of the country which he rules ...
    2. +3
      6 December 2017 22: 48
      For example, Victor Ann. If he goes, I will cheer for him. Because it is IMPORTANT for him to FORCE KOREA even under the white flag. And he will step up - he has the strongest motivation.
  18. +20
    6 December 2017 19: 06


    Such and only such an answer to the IOC
  19. +19
    6 December 2017 19: 06
    Who wants to go, let them go. But without state. support. OI - 90% of the politics, 5 - sports and 5 more horseradish understand what. At the Olympic Games, it’s not the personal ambitions of athletes that are embodied, but the honor is defended and the prestige of the Motherland is raised. On TV in Russia, OI does not broadcast, do not bring the IOC a huge loot for broadcasts and advertising. Who really wants to, will find broadcasts in the internet. Thus, Russia will literally say to the overthrowed west: "Yes, cf. are we all for you, homosexual spawn."
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 19: 12
      Who wants to go, let them go. But without state. support
      Have you carefully read what the president said?
  20. +8
    6 December 2017 19: 06
    It is necessary to return the Soviet Red Flag to the country - the name of the country can not be changed so far! And let someone try to let the flag disgrace what happened with our tricolor now! sad Silence the country, people and flag! !!
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 19: 53
      There was one spot on the Russian flag, under it the Vlasovites fought against their people ... Now this spot has become larger and can’t be removed ...
      1. +2
        6 December 2017 20: 25
        We will see the flag of Russia at the closing of the Olympiad, and you can not sing the anthem even under the stadium karaoke. Zhukov needed to apologize earlier, and Medvedev did not protect Mutka, but heaped up civil courts with lawsuits in defense of our athletes. Just do not sprinkle ash on your head. Word and deed for the Russian athletes. We wish them good luck and high sports results! hi
        1. +1
          6 December 2017 20: 33
          Zhukov needed to apologize earlier, and Medvedev did not protect Mutka
          .. Road spoon for dinner .... And what they could do, have already done ...
  21. +15
    6 December 2017 19: 06
    Only one way out - do not participate! But talking about some kind of universal patriotism of athletes is ridiculous. Homeland for some is not important.
    Speaking under the white flag ... loss of honor.
  22. +6
    6 December 2017 19: 07
    Quote: Twodi
    In general, to declare a boycott of the OI up to the year 2024. To put things in order, the budget of the moka will also drop and the status will be different.

    Actually, according to the rules of the IOC, a country that announced a boycott of the Olympic Games automatically misses two Olympic Games in a row. For example, if they are boycotting the summer games, then they should skip exactly the 2 summer Olympic Games. In addition, contributions must be paid in full anyway, so as if this country is taking part in them. But I completely agree with you. These games are a complete boycott.
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 20: 11
      Quote: Lyuba1965_01
      Actually, according to the rules of the IOC, the country that announced a boycott of the OI

      stop I saw this as the SGA and the company, which boycotted OI in 1980 in Moscow, "did not take" two terms ... fool
    2. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 23
      and has such a rule been in effect for a long time?
  23. +8
    6 December 2017 19: 07
    Bitch low-chol. I’ll definitely go to the polls. I will vote.
  24. 0
    6 December 2017 19: 07
    This is the way out. Next, let Mutko and Zhukov hang out.
  25. +1
    6 December 2017 19: 08
    I must say bluntly that we ourselves are partly to blame

    How neatly self-criticized.
    prohibitive measures against Russian athletes will not be taken.

    And thanks for that.
  26. +15
    6 December 2017 19: 09
    Naturally, those wishing to go under a neutral flag will not be held by their legs. But...
    I very much hope that this first statement by BB is just the FIRST statement. If no further action is taken, then in general all this will be a disgrace for the whole country.
    1. +7
      6 December 2017 19: 43
      Hello, Vasya ! hi I'm shocked, to be honest ... What collapsed in the foundations of Russia? recourse Why is that ? A lot of questions, answers - zero ... negative
      1. +8
        6 December 2017 23: 10
        There is an option

        lol
      2. +5
        7 December 2017 02: 57
        I'm shocked, to be honest ...

        Good evening, Pasha. hi
        Yes, I myself am thoughtful. What they will try to remove - it was understandable. Well, alienated. WHERE, MLEEN RESPONSE ACTION? I'm asking.
        But I am comforting myself with hope: all of this Caudla hopes precisely for retaliatory actions. And they are ready for them, since they count several moves ahead.
        I repeat - I really hope for the subsequent actions of Russia. Rather, what they will be.
      3. 0
        7 December 2017 10: 14
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Hello, Vasya ! hi I'm shocked, to be honest ... What collapsed in the foundations of Russia? recourse Why is that ? A lot of questions, answers - zero ... negative

        Wait, wait and see. Maybe there will still be some moves.
    2. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 08
      You can say anything - but no.
    3. +2
      6 December 2017 20: 20
      Someone suggested that our Olympians perform in the form of the USSR, under the Soviet anthem. That would be a feint))) So, do not worry and believe in Your President.
  27. +12
    6 December 2017 19: 09
    . Firstly, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this,
    Vote for him, he repents five hundred times more for the country.
  28. +1
    6 December 2017 19: 09
    Vobschem said as I thought 95 percent, to decide the Olympic meeting and the athletes themselves. And it is right. But Wadam and the rest of the p-Sam will remember everything, at least they did not rejoice for a long time, until the presidential candidate hi
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 22: 51
      Quote: Prjanik

      Vobschem said as I thought 95 percent, to decide the Olympic meeting and the athletes themselves.

      Fifteen Lyamov athletes also collect? Or should my country pay these ghouls so that neutral athletes compete under a white rag?
  29. +16
    6 December 2017 19: 10
    Not mine. I read the comments on one of the sites. But it hurts like that ... right, or something ... although I don’t know what to think ...
    "The Greeks came up with the Olympics as a move that was supposed to prevent and stop wars. Sport is the sublimation of war. If there are problems with the Olympics, then war is on the verge."
  30. +3
    6 December 2017 19: 12
    Quote: mark_rod
    Firstly, it must be said bluntly that we ourselves are partly to blame for this, because we gave rise to this.

    Each guilty person has a specific surname, name and patronymic! For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

    and why are you so confidently say ??? or do you know what the rest don't know ??? what I'm not sure about. A person who is currently little bit versed in what is happening will never allow himself not only to speak verbally, but also to think about it. I will not explain to you why, because our paths and consciousness are different.
    1. +6
      6 December 2017 20: 15
      Quote: agel26r
      I will not explain to you why, because our paths and consciousness are different.

      You do not explain to him and to us ... We have different paths, different consciousness, as well as the concept of honor, dignity and duty to the Fatherland. However, like sources of income and job responsibilities ... belay
  31. +12
    6 December 2017 19: 13
    Forcibly forbid participation - there is no moral right. To humble oneself or not is everyone's personal business. They want to get medals even despite humiliation - a neutral flag is in their hands, only who will be proud of them? Russia? So these medals, if they are not for Russia, are nowhere and for personal ambitions.
    To boycott is generally a joke, how can we boycott what was removed from us. Our olympiads were boycotted by the West: the summer Moscow in the 80th was boycotted, the winter in Sochi - the leaders of the Western countries boycotted - that is, they announced a boycott in response to our invitation, but how to declare a boycott to the one who told you: we will not allow you, "you are dirty, well, or about the dirty rubs ...". We do not need a boycott. and not a neutral flag, but its alternative Olympic Games in Sochi: Olympic Challenge Games.
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 20: 09
      We now seem to have 22 humiliates, are going to go for medals at the Olympics 2018.
  32. +8
    6 December 2017 19: 14
    If you want to participate as athletes without a country, then without a country you need to. Withdraw from the IOC in general and from similar organizations too. Do not pay any money whatsoever, but instead allocate grants for individual athletes for and for participation. It will be cheaper. Yes, and stand up today in such organizations, descriminating their mission in general, this is a shame. Russia's withdrawal from this organization casts doubt on the existence of Olympic organizations as world organizations. I understand that the IOC observers in 2014 were not at the Olympics, or this is a bunch of morons.
  33. +9
    6 December 2017 19: 14
    The country's behavior is similar to that of a woman with low social responsibility.
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 20: 48
      ))) I wanted to notice, not just the country, but its officials and those who are extremely interested in fulfilling the so-called dream of a Big Start .. And for the townsfolk or bleaches of the thresholds of high offices, just curse and GOOD THOUGHT: ".. IF TOMORROW ON A HIKING IF TOMORROW A WAR OR ON A TURNOVER .. AND IS IT WORTH .. FOR THESE !!!
    2. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 54
      Quote: Stas 2REP
      The country's behavior is similar to that of a woman with low social responsibility.

      Yes, we do not care about the level of social responsibility of France.
  34. +16
    6 December 2017 19: 15
    Yes, on May 7, 2014, Monsieur Didier had a pretty good fuck of our President. He marked him with red lines, said what would happen if ... and Vova copes so well with the role of Parsley, which is controlled through a hole in the ass.
    My personal opinion: in the Kremlin - a traitor and an enemy of the people, no doubt already.
    1. +10
      6 December 2017 20: 13
      Well, under Putin, there was never a foreign policy with a steel ridge — remember 2014, they passed a law on the use of armed forces in Ukraine to protect Russians, but in practice they showed a tight tail in April 2014 in the Donbass.
      1. +7
        6 December 2017 20: 42
        We, the country and the people, crawled in the face on the table and wiped our feet against us at EBNe. The same thing happens under Putin. This is not an accident, it is a regularity, because the country is driven by the same traitor as Yeltsin. To the best of cunning, but still miserable and cowardly insignificance. IMHO
        1. +1
          6 December 2017 23: 56
          At least under Putin, the economy began to grow and the army strengthened, and we must admit that the infrastructure in the country began to develop - factories were being built.
  35. +10
    6 December 2017 19: 18
    Yeah ... Shame ... In principle, as expected. We will condone the creation of new traitors and traitors. What after this statement can there be an election campaign?
  36. +1
    6 December 2017 19: 18
    Guys, let’s without extra emotions, athletes people who have devoted their lives to sports, for some of which the Olympics the chance to get there is only once in a lifetime. You can’t deprive them of this chance, they are not to blame for becoming a bargaining chip in someone else’s dishonest game, when the enemy goes to any nasty thing just to prevent a certain candidate in the election, they say it's all because of him.
  37. +17
    6 December 2017 19: 19
    “An athlete who represents his country in games like the Olympic show is, first of all, a person who represents his country. With all its attributes, whatever it is. We do not choose a homeland. That means a patriot.
    An athlete who is ready to humble himself before walking under a white rag for the sake of his profits is not a patriot. This is not a member of the Russian team, he does not represent Russia. He represents his interests. This is just a participant in the Olympic Games. Mercenary for extras. "Something like this, the previous article seemed more reasonable!
  38. +22
    6 December 2017 19: 19
    And I really did not like the hysterical, exalted performance of Yolanda Chen. The lady was apparently not explained in childhood that playing cards with cheaters does not make any sense, only losses. And now she, with ardor worthy of a better application, is trying to prove that in any case we must go and win, after which we will go with our flag at the close so that all enemies will feel bad. And like an adult. Firstly, it’s not the one who wants to go there, but the one who will be let through by a special commission that has already rejected all the Sochi winners in advance. Secondly, it is not a fact that they will go to the start and will not become the object of further provocations. The psychological situation at the Olympics will be appropriate. On a pedestal they may not be allowed under any pretext. And thirdly, no one gives a guarantee that the won medals will not be taken away after 2 ... 3 years. And why go? To collect spitting and humiliation. Received little? They decided to crush us to the end and if something goes wrong, then they just change the rules and no dashing passage in front of the stands will make any impression on the cynical overseas uncles. And if someone tries to heroize himself by pulling a flag, singing a hymn, painting his nails, etc., he will quickly be pacified by excommunication and fines. These guys have calculated almost everything and are unlikely to allow improvisation on our part. And all the cards in their hands.
  39. 0
    6 December 2017 19: 20
    Quote: killganoff
    People, Russians, wake up !!!

    Russia is a multinational country in which many peoples and even more nationalities live. So you do not pull on the role of resuscitator, pull more on the instigator.
    1. +15
      6 December 2017 19: 55
      Russia is a multinational country in which many peoples and even more nationalities live. So you do not pull on the role of resuscitator, pull more on the instigator.

      I don’t see any wrongness in this phrase, I’m German, but I’m Russian German and I think the same way all other nations living in Russia will say
      1. +2
        7 December 2017 07: 12
        Russian is not a nationality, it is a state of mind.
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  40. +4
    6 December 2017 19: 20
    Quote: Odyssey
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Another person is killing me ... who will pay $ 15 million for the subversive activities of the WADA commission ... really out of our pocket.

    Well, it’s not out of Rottenberg’s pocket that you are asking frivolous questions. Of course, from the state.
    Repent and pay, and then pay and repent again.
    And this is just the beginning ...

    I agree this is only the beginning, we can also forget about the World Cup. The reason, let’s say
    Atmospheric pressure in Russia does not meet international standards
  41. Tim
    +20
    6 December 2017 19: 21
    Here are the statements of Mr. Kadyrova R.A. chapters of the Czech Republic. IMHO a decent response to a neutral flag.
    ,, We have a Homeland, we have our Fatherland! Not a single athlete with a Chechen registration will compete under a neutral flag. And we will celebrate those Chechen athletes who, by all criteria, had to get into the national team and go to the Olympics as winners. ,,
    1. 0
      6 December 2017 22: 42
      these are the words of the STATE
      Bow to Ramzan Akhmadovich

      and not those who advised us
      "The Kremlin urged not to give in to emotions"
    2. +3
      7 December 2017 04: 51
      One small but. Kadyrov, this statement does not cost anything. Because there are no potential winners with a Chechen registration in winter sports.
  42. +13
    6 December 2017 19: 21
    “The situation must be examined carefully” and entrusted with the final decision to the Olympic Assembly.
    Yes, yes ... as our court is independent of the Kremlin, the Olympic meeting is also the same. I see this as an attempt to shift responsibility to the wrong side when making an unpopular decision among the people. This is not the first time such a trick has been done. In a situation where it is necessary to express A resolute protest and to declare that Russia has only one Flag, which it is proud of and sometimes our people do not spare their lives, so that our flag proudly flies over the country,and we have no other flags and lower our Flag (and they suggest that it’s IT, if anyone still doesn’t understand !!!) we cannot under any circumstances! And this fake Olympics would go to hell))) But no, we’ll get a tear out about the fate of athletes , as if their fate might be higher than the Honor and future of our Motherland ...
  43. +10
    6 December 2017 19: 24
    as a neighbor I will say
    - It's a shame and pity for the fans;
    - rulers of your weak and spineless individuals;
    -and, as Kolya-s-Urengoy used to say,-go to, the so-called OI "well, OO-O-Very big stupidity.
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 22: 24
      Quote: VeteranVSSSR
      sorry and sorry for the fans

      You better take pity on yourself
      Quote: VeteranVSSSR
      - rulers of your weak and spineless individuals;

      And your strong and spineful?
  44. +12
    6 December 2017 19: 26
    Well, the GDP was bent ... it lasted a long time ... but the oligarch friends were tired of losing losses ... I think after the elections a better drain on the sovereignty of the country will go. There are no words ... resentment boils in the heart ... and Vova got into tolerance ... I think, in the elections to vote for whom?!?
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 19: 29
      Quote: Harsh
      Well, the GDP was bent ... it lasted a long time ... but the oligarch friends were tired of losing losses ... I think after the elections a better drain on the sovereignty of the country will go. There are no words ... resentment boils in the heart ... and Vova got into tolerance ... I think, in the elections to vote for whom?!?

      All that remains is Zhirinovsky, although a populist ... but Putin is getting better
      1. +4
        6 December 2017 19: 43
        Zhirik is not a panacea, he is saturated with this power ... he is brought up to her .. he is like a fish in water in her ... Yes, and a noble liar. Look on the internet as his Karaulov asks about his incomes and family incomes ... it’s spinning like a frying pan ... So this is not that ...
      2. +1
        7 December 2017 10: 14
        No, well, ok, let's choose Sharikov better, he will tell us for the world revolution and which eye of the bourgeoisie to poke out ......
    2. +2
      6 December 2017 20: 39
      I agree, where do we go with our "cheap" and natural patriotism against millions and guarantees that they are not "honestly earned" in Western wallets .. For Titova, yes, radish horseradish .. Against all, by canceling the newsletter by violating the rules for filling out "your position vote"
  45. +2
    6 December 2017 19: 27
    One factor alone has not yet been taken into account. Depends on Trump and Kim.
    And where will it go? Although with some flag?
  46. +4
    6 December 2017 19: 27
    Quote: skeptic31
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

    I agree disgrace ... But on the other hand, the Mokovadav bureaucrats did everything to prevent the Russian athletes ... So why would they make life easier. It was necessary to spit earlier, as soon as all this nonsense began. And now we must already begin to confront in a different way, if they do not understand in a good way, then we must take an example from Una, for each run-in, answer in full, and not chew snot.
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 20: 33
      There was a joke on this site “not to scare all this invalid IOC and take it off with exercises for emergency evacuation of Vladivostok”, and then when they pass all the tests there. To declare that the exercises were planned. But this step would be appropriate if you ruled the country completely different and at a completely different time ... Alas and AH ..
  47. +15
    6 December 2017 19: 28
    Firstly, it must be said bluntly that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave rise to this. And secondly, I think that this occasion was used in a not entirely honest way, to put it mildly.

    In your country you just spat and wiped your legs, and you just mumble and bleat. And does this rag intend to rule the Great Country for another 6 years?
  48. +17
    6 December 2017 19: 31
    Look for someone who is not too lazy to find it, I’ll quickly find it. Two weeks ago, our great president, army of servants, propagandists, and patriots on a paycheck loudly declared something in the spirit of “What is another white flag? What neutral status? If so, we uuuh! " And now, you see, it’s necessary to be calmer, it’s okay, well, it was like in the Donbass, at first it was “let them try,” and then “the best choice of the Ukrainian people” ...
    1. 0
      7 December 2017 10: 42
      Quote: Orphan 63
      Valdai Club, November 13, 2017
      Putin about NOT ALLOWING the 2018 Olympics: REDUCE RUSSIA NOT GET IT !! OUR Answer will be FAST!

      Going to give up under the white flag? !!!

      Is this the case you are looking for? Well, where is it about "wow, we all?" Detected payroll.
  49. +1
    6 December 2017 19: 33
    Quote: skeptic31
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

    My opinion is that Russia needs to create alternative, Olympic games, games and call on countries that also don’t like the rules of a “strong” dictator, such as the Goodwill games. Yes
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 20: 27
      Unfortunately, there is one, and as we all see, a strong argument: “WHO PAYS, THAT IS ORDERING ...” AND WHERE IS YOUR HOMELAND. THE SON ?? - TRIED HER FOR OFFSHHOR COURS !! ...
  50. +16
    6 December 2017 19: 33
    Come on, Dimon won a joke with Baham, he drove teas) I’m not sure if he will be met with bread and salt by our main liberals, headed by GDP
  51. +2
    6 December 2017 19: 35
    Well done Putin, he made SOLOMON’S DECISION.....
    Those who shout that this is a SHAME are deeply mistaken!
    Putin sees ahead, the result will be in 5-10 years
    Therefore, Baycott Olympics 2018 will throw Russia far back....
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 20: 58
      And what is in his decision from Solomon? Nothing. What is called neither yours nor ours. If he wants to gain time, it would be better if he kept silent himself, because he has a talking sand head.
  52. +10
    6 December 2017 19: 37
    Nothing in this world passes without consequences. Karma is inevitable. The government of the Russian Federation is essentially occupational. It strangles and hates the people it is obliged to serve. Therefore...
    They take a hundredfold according to their deeds.
    The Olympics is essentially the respect of all humanity for that group of gopniks that calls itself the government of the Russian Federation.
    1. 0
      6 December 2017 22: 46
      Quote: IStreebok
      The Olympics is essentially the respect of all humanity for that group of gopniks that calls itself the government of the Russian Federation.

      Please decipher the sacred meaning of this phrase.
      1. 0
        7 December 2017 10: 44
        Quote: Pyroman
        Quote: IStreebok
        The Olympics is essentially the respect of all humanity for that group of gopniks that calls itself the government of the Russian Federation.

        Please decipher the sacred meaning of this phrase.

        I join the request of Comrade Pyromaniac.
  53. +2
    6 December 2017 19: 39
    Putin lacks toughness like Stalin!
  54. +25
    6 December 2017 19: 39
    God, what a wuss our president has become.
    1. +1
      7 December 2017 04: 04
      She always has been. Look at his old interviews from the 90s, how he thanks the high officials who pulled him into the highest echelons of power. Without them, he would still be nothing.
  55. +9
    6 December 2017 19: 45
    nominates his candidacy for another presidential term

    I haven’t voted before and after this I never will.
  56. +15
    6 December 2017 19: 45
    By the way, Zhukov, the chairman of the ROC, has already apologized for doping.. And then there’s the GDP.. like We’ve all gotten excited here.. But it turns out to be a rather sad picture in reality.. Russia admitted to doping and Rodchenkov is right and the Germans who made the film and others.. and there was so much noise and angry statements that this was all a lie, stars and provocation... But this is the first sign... they bowed their heads, now they will hang a weight on it and tie their hands, and then throw them into the pool...
  57. +19
    6 December 2017 19: 46
    What are we talking about, colleagues? The Olympic movement ended when in 2016, during the Rio Olympics, the US team was allowed to rerun the relay instead of the one it had lost. You just need to hand out gold medals to the penguins at the opening, silver medals to the Koreans, and bronze medals to everyone else who wants them. And for those who come from Russia, perform under a white rag - according to the Order of Judas.
    1. +1
      6 December 2017 20: 02
      Right there, right in the hole...
    2. +3
      6 December 2017 20: 19
      It ended in 1938, when other fascists, as now, did not allow athletes to participate in the Olympics on racial grounds through the same purchased McLaren, only the German fascists were in charge, and now the American ones, although the FSA still brought Hitler and his party to power.
  58. +5
    6 December 2017 19: 46
    But there was no need to hold the Olympics and the World Football Championship, which could also be either taken away or our team banned from competing there... The apotheosis of United Russia's activities... laughing tongue wassat
  59. +1
    6 December 2017 19: 50
    We ourselves have messed up everywhere and in everything; there are not enough letters to describe everything...
  60. +3
    6 December 2017 19: 51
    We have a wonderful opportunity to show the importance of our Country.
    Koreans understand that without our athletes, the games will lose entertainment, and they, accordingly, will lose money. That is why we are ready to take out our athletes at our own expense. In my opinion, the whole world already understands this - a publication, for example, in a Swedish publication today regarding our hockey team.
    Putin said everything very correctly. Said for the whole world. Let everyone hear that we do not forbid anyone anything.
    But we are all waiting to see if he has the will and determination to really ban all of our athletes, without exception, from participating in this farce - the Olympic Games.
    Yes, there will be traitors.
    But the absence of our athletes will make us think next time whether the IOC should make such statements.
    I still hope that Putin has enough courage and our athletes will not be there.
    1. +10
      6 December 2017 20: 08
      But we are all waiting to see if he has the will and determination to really ban all of our athletes, without exception, from participating in this farce - the Olympic Games.

      Damn, he already explained everything to you in plain text. After such a statement, the athletes will ride under the white flag, a little less than everyone else. The required funds will be transferred to the IOC. All. You won't hear a damn thing from Putin anymore.
      1. +3
        6 December 2017 20: 37
        Yes, it will be interesting to see how events develop. I think in the near future. The hockey players have already written a tearful letter asking to be allowed in. It’s understandable that they really want it. But I hope that ours will not be at the Olympics. There is enough strength to tell those in charge that there is no need to go anywhere. And you don't have to pay for the broadcast. Only in this way will the IOC and the world understand that this cannot be done with Russia. In general, I hope
  61. +2
    6 December 2017 19: 57
    AND WHAT DID NULAND BRING SO MANY CORPORALS OR COOKIES?
  62. +12
    6 December 2017 20: 01
    To betray the Motherland or not, in principle, is also everyone’s personal choice. And there is no need to condemn anyone. Even those who died defending their homeland. Do you feel sorry for the athletes? Why are athletes better than those who died in Donbass or Odessa? They didn't lose medals. Life.
    ----
    “There are different types of love for one’s native land.
    One beautifully pours words and tears
    Over a field of rye, over virgin snow
    Above the withering birch leaves.
    The other couldn't think of any words to say,
    But without leaving the silent gun,
    He just died for his love
    At an unknown distant village.
    The human soul cannot live without beauty.
    But beauty is only that beautiful
    That, like a soldier, strict features
    Unaffected by fatigue and fear"
    I wrote from memory. L. Oshanin.
    ----
    Eh, guarantor... They spat in my face and wiped it off... I wouldn’t be surprised if he unfastened 15 lyams.
    1. +8
      6 December 2017 20: 23
      During the Second World War they gave their lives under the flag of their homeland, but now they are voluntarily ready to change it to a white flag, maybe these people simply don’t have a homeland...
      1. +7
        6 December 2017 20: 26
        I'm just wondering if anyone would dare to conduct a survey on Putin's rating now? This would be an indicator. A very important indicator. Provided that the survey is objective.
  63. +9
    6 December 2017 20: 03
    Under a neutral flag? What kind of flag is this? PROBABLY A HOMELESS FLAG!
    No flag means no country, no country means no athlete!
    Why do they need such medals?
    Are they going to show them to their children and grandchildren and tell them how they got them?
    For the country and its sport, such medals are not worth a penny!
    If they want to go for rusty gold, let them go. At your own expense! And then, when they return to their homeland, they don’t shake the shine of rusty gold in front of the country!

    Putin did not comment on the suspension of the Russian team!
    He commented and showed the whole country his powerlessness!
    The country was given a slap in the face! And Putin turned the other cheek!
  64. +13
    6 December 2017 20: 07
    No...seriously, these sanctions are making me more and more scared. If there were a war tomorrow... after all, how many traitors have shown themselves in recent years... and at the very top... And now the flag with the Russian anthem is an empty place and we don’t need it, it turns out...
    1. +8
      6 December 2017 20: 59
      They haven't needed him for a long time. And we knew this very well. It’s just that after Crimea, for some reason they believed that this was not so. Now here's a bitter hangover. Capitalism is incompatible with patriotism. We must not forget about this even under the thunder of “victories”
  65. +9
    6 December 2017 20: 10
    Your mother! Again they caved in to the West.... Ugh! sad
  66. +8
    6 December 2017 20: 11
    You understand when you are not being easy, they spit in your face, humiliating the Great Power, but deliberately indicating a place, without gender, hymn and name, to our Russian people. The sovereigns do not have the moral right to simply wipe themselves off, because we have our courageous ancestors behind us, I despise the pygmy rulers! their pygmy deeds! And pathetic pygmy excuses!
  67. gcn
    +1
    6 December 2017 20: 17
    Patriot on patriot and in the comments there is more and more an attempt to find the guilty and write how bad they are. We have all been betrayed by the conclusions and we are all just tired. Four years have passed since Sochi and, as if by order, we were deprived of i.e. absolutely OI, well, what can you do, they gave it a reason, they took advantage of it. It started back in the summer when everyone was disqualified, so this is just the next step for them and our leadership wouldn’t be able to do anything. And as for the rules, it seems like they want to isolate us, so they’ll do dirty tricks then we will violate some WTO rules and they will stop importing iPhones with aimaks to us or restrict the sale of traffic, and the Casper company will be accused of espionage and Rosatom of trying to infect the rest of the world.
  68. DPN
    0
    6 December 2017 20: 18
    A man checks what the word Motherland-Russia means for athletes; people are constantly being called to patriotism, but they don’t care. Let them ride at their own expense and don’t mind under any flag.
  69. +5
    6 December 2017 20: 19
    There is no need to go anywhere at all, but, as they say, the answer is symmetrical: they weren’t allowed to go to the Olympic Games - recognize the LDPR and start issuing Russian Federation passports to them, and also hold a referendum on South Ossetia’s accession to the Russian Federation, and then we’ll see.
    1. 0
      6 December 2017 20: 48
      Quote: kefan
      There is no need to go anywhere at all, but, as they say, the answer is symmetrical: they weren’t allowed to go to the Olympic Games - recognize the LDPR and start issuing Russian Federation passports to them, and also hold a referendum on South Ossetia’s accession to the Russian Federation, and then we’ll see.

      This will scare Ukraine less than our “partnerophiles”.
  70. +4
    6 December 2017 20: 21
    This is a shame and what a shame!" They pulled down their panties, bent them over and began to flog them like a careless slave!!! i.e., defending the Motherland from the adversary by all means is allowed, but the Motherland does not want to protect its representatives!! Or rather, the officials will again get away with everything , and the Russian Ivan, and Marya, if the fattening dignitaries wish, they can eat cabbage soup before the war!! Until when....
  71. +3
    6 December 2017 20: 25
    I spent a very long time reading the comments of respected VO participants. What's wrong with you people? Are you competent in all external and internal problems of Russia? Great tacticians and strategists? I dare to suggest that if Putin were at the helm of the United States, the EU, NATO or any other structure or any other state in the camp opposite to us, we would have felt so bad that we would have considered Yeltsin’s collapse a blessing! Write that they do not play by the rules, but by the rules! By your own rules! And Putin doesn’t even lose by their rules! In Europe, thanks to the introduction of their ill-considered sanctions, a crisis is brewing, NATO is already dreaming of throwing the United States out of its membership. In the Middle East, thanks to Russia, there are also changes, Uncle Trump now recognizes Jerusalem as Jewish, and here everything will go to hell, a conflict between the two Koreas also awaits the political will of Russia and China! And here we are suffering because of the Olympics... But if our pure athletes take one of those first places, everyone will know that these are Russian athletes! And that Russia in any form and condition is stronger than them, all of them combined! They burst into tears here, to the delight of the liberals! By God, you should be ashamed! Well, regarding Putin’s candidacy, there is no worthy alternative yet!
    1. +16
      6 December 2017 20: 29
      Wake up man!
      1. +2
        6 December 2017 22: 26
        Thanks for the advice, but I'll make do.
  72. +5
    6 December 2017 20: 30
    All this is disgusting. and a thorough check for lice and not only for athletes.
  73. +4
    6 December 2017 20: 30
    Quote: skeptic31
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

    Play for now, accumulate strength, earn experience... when the time comes to kick the horns of everyone and achieve the establishment of fair rules of the game!
    By the way, if you don’t play at all, then where will the experience come from? Follow the rule - don’t flirt until you lose your last trousers!
    By the way, you can lose without loss of dignity, objectively, to a stronger opponent
  74. DPN
    +1
    6 December 2017 20: 30
    Quote: DPN
    A man checks what the word Motherland-Russia means for athletes; people are constantly being called to patriotism, but they don’t care. Let them ride at their own expense and don’t mind under any flag.
  75. 0
    6 December 2017 20: 32
    During the day I immediately read Roman Skomorokhov’s article on this matter. It's all said there.
  76. +4
    6 December 2017 20: 35
    Quote: skeptic31
    But they are trying to force us through this humiliation for some unknown reason. Of course, if we don’t go, they will shout something offensive at us, even very offensive, but they will shout in both cases. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will scream with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt.

    ---------------------------------------
    In general, as Churchill said: “A country that chooses between war and shame, shame, will receive both shame and war.”
    Not everything is so rosy with the World Cup, although many commentators are predicting at least an exit from the group. Saudi Arabia may well naturalize top-class players from Spain, Italy, France and beat our national team with a bang. And also sponsor Egypt for the same team.
  77. +5
    6 December 2017 20: 35
    I went away (free translation) another oliPIaada... Putin for the 3rd term. Okay, let's go... I'm deeply interested in the earnings of our spartmen. Let them work, and not press barbells and other useless dildos
  78. +4
    6 December 2017 20: 36
    Quote: dog breeder
    They burst into tears here, to the delight of the liberals! By God, you should be ashamed! Well, regarding Putin’s candidacy, there is no worthy alternative yet!

    ---------------------------
    You probably do better with dogs.
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 22: 23
      Yes you are right. they don't know how to lie. And the real ones also have to adapt!
  79. +3
    6 December 2017 20: 43
    It’s hard to imagine a more ridiculous start to an election campaign... I won’t watch this “offshore” team for a minute.
  80. 0
    6 December 2017 20: 43
    Quote: dog breeder
    But if our pure athletes take one of those first places, everyone will know that these are Russian athletes! And that Russia in any form and condition is stronger than them, all of them combined! They burst into tears here, to the delight of the liberals! By God, you should be ashamed! Well, regarding Putin’s candidacy, there is no worthy alternative yet!
  81. +5
    6 December 2017 20: 47
    This is a logical comment from an ordinary official. They acted the same way they lived all the years. Pragmatic and without ideology. Sometimes it seems that Crimea and 2014 were just a dream. Indeed, a democratic country cannot prohibit anything to its citizens. Right? Well, what do the athletes themselves decide... To tell the truth, our state begins to participate in sports life starting with championships and Olympics. And before that, everyone has no support for mass sports. Therefore, our Olympians owe nothing to Arode. Which, by the way, many of them told us before. Hello Arshavin! I wonder whether sports officials Mudko and Zhukoff and their ilk will answer for this shame. Bringing the situation to this end. Ah, the vile wada is beating us. So you expose yourself and he will beat you.
  82. +1
    6 December 2017 20: 56
    Quote: skeptic31
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

    and 8 years of ban on a country that has declared a boycott? These are 2 more Olympics. That is, our athletes will not be at three Olympics. This will throw our sport back to the stone age. I, too, for example, am very offended, but not everything is so simple here. Yes, and I admit that our stigma is a cannon. Officials should definitely not only be punished, but go to prison for 5 years. Well, the athletes... God will be their judge.
  83. +1
    6 December 2017 20: 57
    Businessman Arkady Rotenberg
    Businessman Boris Rothenberg
    Businessman Gennady Timchenko
    Chairman of the Board of Directors of the Bank "Russia" Yuri Kovalchuk
    Citizen of the Russian Federation and Finland Roman Rotenberg
    Stroytransgaz Holding (STG Holdings Ltd), a shareholder in the construction companies of the Stroytransgaz group
    OAO Stroytransgaz, a company for the construction of energy facilities, has participated in all the largest pipeline construction sites in Russia.
    Stroytransgaz LLC, along with the ARKS Group of Companies and the SK Most Group of Companies, is engaged in the construction of transport infrastructure facilities
    LLC Stroytransgaz-M - a company for the construction of field facilities of the oil and gas and petrochemical industries within the group of STG
    SGM Group of Companies - Stroygazmontazh, an international diversified construction holding
    Bank "Russia"
    So I would invite these people and organizations to become sponsors of our athletes (as I understand, the Russian Federation is even excluded from financing and organizing the trip of our athletes) am
    1. +2
      6 December 2017 21: 27
      Well, yes, athletes, white-shirt athletes, will go to South Korea for the Olympics, at their own expense, if you want participation and medals, pay.
  84. +3
    6 December 2017 20: 57
    On December 12, we will see what our Olympians are like. What will they choose - the honor of the country or their own ambitions.
  85. exo
    +3
    6 December 2017 21: 01
    If there is a desire and no pride, let them go. But the Russian authorities should not reward them with cars and apartments. At the expense of Russian citizens. Whose logo is on the chest, let them reward them.
  86. +4
    6 December 2017 21: 02
    He made the right decision, not to interfere, if he announced a boycott today, tomorrow our PATRIOTS athletes will run to get citizenship of the USA, Finland and even brotherly Azerbaijan, dishonoring us with even greater shame, don’t you understand they don’t care about us, they have advertising contracts and sponsors, they are rootless cosmopolitans, little Medvedev, an example for you, he will go to the Olympics under any flag, even Russia, he won’t be able to sign up for Haiti, he understands this, so we’ll see who is a patriot and who is so rootless
    1. +3
      6 December 2017 21: 14
      Quote: polpot
      will run to obtain citizenship of the USA, Finland and even fraternal Azerbaijan

      let them run, what’s the problem?...They already spend 90% of their time abroad. Real heroes like Tetyukhin are coming to an end.
    2. +1
      6 December 2017 21: 31
      Wow - Putin's multi-walker, whoever goes is not ours - a quick way to discard pseudo athletes and find patriotic athletes.
      1. +3
        6 December 2017 21: 38
        Come on! They will also receive bonuses later, they will go to TV, to all sorts of receptions...
  87. +4
    6 December 2017 21: 05
    If someone doesn’t care what flag they fly under, then that’s their right. Personally, I won’t watch this Olympics, because these are games of a completely different kind, according to different rules, not sports.
    1. +5
      6 December 2017 21: 33
      It would be funny if during the Olympics a war breaks out between the DPRK, Japan, South Korea and the USA - we will all definitely watch this “Olympics”.
  88. +2
    6 December 2017 21: 15
    This is revenge for the liberation of Syria and the establishment of relative peace in BV.. They don’t need the Olympics, they need a massacre! They have now moved to the DPRK and are escalating the situation... Allah bless Russia, all hope is in you...
    1. 0
      6 December 2017 21: 42
      Quote: Karakut
      This is revenge for the liberation of Syria and the establishment of relative peace in BV.. They don’t need the Olympics, they need a massacre!

      The Russian Federation in the SAR can always return everything to normal, and the Turks will personally provide everyone with buses to send refugees from BV to the EU....
      Who said that only the United States and Israeli Jews have a license to create IS?
      1. +1
        8 December 2017 22: 31
        Quote: MOSKVITYANIN
        Who said that only the United States and Israeli Jews have a license to create IS?

        Everyone in the world already knows this...And only Russia wets it no matter what!
  89. +7
    6 December 2017 21: 25
    Today, once again, society is divided into “Before and After” sad
    1. +1
      7 December 2017 00: 01
      Just as Putin was president and will remain until 2024 - just think, they weren’t allowed to the Olympic Games, this is not the end of the world, life goes on, especially since we don’t know what could happen to South Korea tomorrow. There is now a “critical mass” concentrated there - it could explode at any moment.
  90. +1
    6 December 2017 21: 39
    Having excluded the Russians from the Olympics, “all progressive humanity” answered the question: “WILL THERE BE A WAR ON THE KOREAN PINSKE”...and terrorist attacks on sports facilities in Europe? The Russian Federation threw down the gauntlet without thinking about the consequences....
  91. 0
    6 December 2017 21: 44
    Quote: vladimir VR
    On December 12, we will see what our Olympians are like. What will they choose - the honor of the country or their own ambitions.

    I hope that they all refuse to go with one impulse
    What will definitely be right
    I really hope that they will be told to do the right thing.
    1. +1
      6 December 2017 22: 15
      I understand you, but they will run to race at the Olympics, have no doubt, the president today, understanding their rotten essence, gave the go-ahead, let them go, and you and I can only boycott this circus by refusing to watch
      1. +1
        6 December 2017 23: 01
        Yes, everything is clear with them, the vast majority will run, I have no doubt
        But will the Candidate be able to convince them to stay home?
        I hope so
  92. Say
    +1
    6 December 2017 21: 44
    The guarantor made me happy...
    ...for another four years he will dutifully receive slaps in the face and dutifully chew snot.
    Stability.
    1. 0
      6 December 2017 21: 57
      No, brothers... And what flag am I under, 7 (seven) autonomous vehicles?... It’s completely out of the question.... It was in the evening (late) there was nothing to do....
      1. 0
        6 December 2017 22: 16
        Under the right comrade under ours
        1. +1
          7 December 2017 00: 42
          It would be funny if the submarine returned to its home base under a white rag and pennants below... oh... secret
          And "Varyag"?! Nevsky patch?!! Novorossiysk?! Small land..... Brothers, we have forgotten our history.... Nissan Hyundais, Porsches, Citroens.... No, well, the grandson came up and asked, “What is this emergency...” I sat down - the letter “A” - and how! !!???
    2. 0
      7 December 2017 04: 07
      Quote: Sige
      .four more years
      6 years old, 6. (SIX)...
  93. +8
    6 December 2017 22: 15
    Why are you ALL shouting here?
    The country has been occupied for almost 30 years, torn to shreds and is in the power of an artificially created bourgeoisie. Moreover, there is no talk of any human values ​​on its territory - at least take a look at your TV box. The most vile “inhuman” deeds are endlessly discussed and propagated there. Who is the idol in the country today? Maybe a hero soldier who defended civilians in Ukraine or Syria? Haha... The main character is a thief! Oh, excuse me - a “businessman”, but essentially a “non-human” who robbed his homeland (or rather, the territory where he was born and raised). Demonic forces are rampaging through our Great Country today. Culture, science, medicine and education are almost completely destroyed. We can't do anything against them. But God can do ANYTHING! And which of you and I, dear compatriots, asks Him for deliverance from the wicked? That's it! We should only speak on forums and complain about life. But we don’t want to simply pray: “Lord, deliver us from evil.”
    Read the “original source”, everything is written there - until we repent and turn to the Creator for protection, don’t expect anything good!
    “I love Russia so much that I want Russia to be Russia” - who was the person who admitted this on the verge of death? Everyone says that he was an enemy of Our Motherland.
    But I think that perhaps the Best Friend of RUSSIA. So the IOC may not be the enemy either
    All the will of God ! “Love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who use you and persecute you, so that you may be sons of your Father in heaven” Matthew 15
    1. 0
      7 December 2017 00: 57
      They shouted for the Flag. For a sign. We were sons.... He didn’t feel sorry for us... I can’t swear.... Everyone by the shoulders and in the mouth.... Sorry, he remained alive
  94. +2
    6 December 2017 22: 28
    Well, there are such concepts as: honor and dignity, responsibility and pride, decency and integrity... Motherland. And she can - in the person of bureaucrats and businessmen - betray. Probably, then only a personal decision characterizes a person.
    It is difficult to condemn the athletes who are preparing, who will consciously go to compete and actually abandon the attributes of their state. After all, they tried (they didn’t eat chemicals, among other things), but because of the roteness of the FSB and other structures, they are overboard. This is where the moment comes - an easy and intuitive choice - the main thing is success and participation, well, everything else can be adjusted to the concepts - honor can be replaced with the importance of personal achievements, dignity with tolerance for unfair decisions, but stronger than us, and the white flag - the that - the Motherland is ugly, could not stop traitors and corrupt bureaucrats in general. and all for money...
  95. +5
    6 December 2017 22: 31
    You read the comments and are amazed. The athletes haven’t gone anywhere yet, but they are already traitors. And the officials who brought the country and this situation to such an ending have nothing to do with it? Well, I won’t talk about everyone, but at least Mutko and Zhukov should answer, or are the athletes still to blame?
  96. +3
    6 December 2017 22: 31
    The Kremlin urged not to give in to emotions

    this is a new meme
  97. +1
    6 December 2017 22: 32
    Hm. Indignation within the Russian mentality. This is what they are counting on, complete discrediting of those who have not decided on the status of Russia, manipulation of vassals. It looks like pre-preparation for the hot phase. Korea, Donbass is unknown, but soon and close. The Olympians don’t need to go, this Olympics will not be recognized, and there is no need for them to die there, this is to our advantage and football is of no use. Pirov’s victory is similar to SOI.
  98. +12
    6 December 2017 22: 39
    Soon we will be seated at the UN under a neutral flag wink FOR THEY ARE PATIENT!!!
    1. 0
      6 December 2017 22: 50
      Are you proposing to start a war using nuclear weapons? Why then maintain an expensive state apparatus for this?
  99. +3
    6 December 2017 22: 51
    What would Putin say if the elections were next Sunday? Or is this just another (to be sure) CPP?
  100. +6
    6 December 2017 23: 17
    Solomon Kane,
    Kostya, you're right. The Anglo-Saxon legal system is claimant-based. It already exists. If anyone hopes that after this decision of the IOC nothing will happen (to Zhukov), then he is mistaken. There is a precedent, a foundation for the future.