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Putin commented on the removal of the Russian national team from the Olympics

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Vladimir Putin, who announced today that he is running for another presidential term, commented on the situation with the dismissal of the Russian team from participation in the Olympic Games. According to the president (and now it is five minutes to a candidate), the Russian authorities will not prevent the participation of Russian athletes in the OY-2018 in Pyeongchang, who are ready to perform under a neutral flag.


Putin commented on the removal of the Russian national team from the Olympics


Vladimir Putin during a meeting with employees of the GAZ plant:
We, without any doubt, will not declare any blockade, we will not prevent our Olympians from taking part if one of them wants to take part in a personal capacity. First, we must say directly that we are partly to blame for this, because we have given a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was used not entirely honestly, to put it mildly.


Putin said that many athletes had been preparing for these international competitions for many years, he knows “many athletes personally”, and therefore they will not take prohibitive measures against Russian athletes.

Further, the president, in essence, repeated the thesis of the press secretary Peskov, noting that “the situation must be dealt with carefully” and entrust the final decision to the Olympic Assembly.

It is unlikely that after the words of Putin, the Olympic Assembly will take a different decision on the participation of Russian athletes as "singles" - without a flag, a hymn and other attributes of the country, which made them (athletes) real masters of the sporting business.
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  1. skeptic31
    skeptic31 6 December 2017 18: 51 New
    225
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!
    1. Vend
      Vend 6 December 2017 18: 55 New
      13
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

      Well, what's your suggestion?
      1. Mar.Tirah
        Mar.Tirah 6 December 2017 18: 58 New
        76
        But it is necessary to punish the insolence in the courts. Moreover, the rules of the Olympic Charter say that unrecognized countries and states in which military operations are taking place under the Olympic flag. Dear IOC, since when has Russia become an unrecognized country? On what basis was the decision made to remove the Russian team from the opening and closing ceremonies? The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.
        1. Nicholas C.
          Nicholas C. 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
          151
          “If, choosing between war and shame, you prefer shame, then in the end you will inevitably get both war and shame ...” - W. Churchill.
          1. Sergey-svs
            Sergey-svs 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
            94
            Fine! The team of Rodchenkov and Stepanova is waiting for new participants. negative And here, in a conscientious way, the payment for treason from our Western "partners" arrived in time! yes Although what is this "betrayal" ?! Sport, as you know, is outside politics, because there is no betrayal, what difference does it make under whose flag? Again, do you know how hard life is for athletes ??? Exhausting workouts, fees, regimen, diet. They do not spare themselves, one might say. crying These are not some submariners out there who sit under water for six months. They just lay in bed and sleep for yourself. And not the pilots in Syria - those in general in the resort, here is winter, and there the Mediterranean Sea is at hand. And athletes - they walk on the blade every day. In general, this is not a betrayal, and who are they to ignore the instructions of the Kremlin oligarch officials from a NEUTRAL country! When, Deputy Prime Minister Dvorkovich called on Russian athletes to go to the 2018 Olympics, he believes that the “neutral status” of athletes is not important in this case ... And the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said that the Russian authorities would not impede the participation of Russian athletes in Pyeongchang Olympic Games in personal capacity under the neutral flag! fool So, to spit on the flag, anthem and humiliation of Russia, let us rather run for medals and dallars! am
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 6 December 2017 19: 10 New
              91
              The authorities of the Russian Federation really cannot ban athletes from participating in the Olympic Games, but Russia’s authorities do not need to indulge this!
              The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of the Olympic Games, and tomorrow they will speak abroad in foreign clubs as citizens of foreign countries. As they say, a tablecloth is dear to them!
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 6 December 2017 19: 23 New
                38
                Polls
                Will you cheer for Russian athletes with a neutral flag?
                The survey is conducted from December 6 to 2017.
                At the time of 6.11.2017 6: 20, 8352 people voted.
                Yes ................................ 25%
                No .............................. 27%
                I do not want to watch the Olympic Games .... 48%

                See - https://eadaily.com/en/poll/
                1. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 28 New
                  +1
                  No comment.
                  1. Vladimir16
                    Vladimir16 6 December 2017 20: 42 New
                    10
                    Putin said they would not hinder those who wish PERSONALLY participate.
                    if any of them wants to take part in personal quality

                    The state of Russia MUST send the Olympic Committee and the show itself under the name OI.
                    There is a Russian proverb: a woman with a cart is easier for a mare. If you don’t want to see Russia on your coven, we have nothing to do there.
                    Here quoted above Churchill. But this Anglo-Saxon loved the Russians no more than Hitler. And only a Russian soldier forced him to negotiate with Stalin. Ghoul he is ordinary. Why quote people who wanted the death of a Russian person and his life spent just for that ????
                    1. Town Hall
                      Town Hall 6 December 2017 20: 55 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Vladimir16
                      There is a Russian proverb: a woman with a cart is easier for a mare. You don’t want to see Russia on your coven, so we have nothing to do there



                      And in this allegory of yours, what role does Russia play ?. Women, carts or mares?
                      1. Ami du peuple
                        Ami du peuple 6 December 2017 23: 00 New
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                        Quote: Town Hall
                        ... What role does Russia play ?. Women, carts or mares?
                        The fourth - unrequited patylo. How it all got ...
                        I will definitely vote for Sobchachka, I don’t have to pin any hopes on her “reviving Russia”. Accordingly, there will be no disappointment either.
                        Well, Vladimir Vladimirovich, of course, good luck in the presidential election. After all, "If not Putin, then who?" Yes, gentlemen / fellow putriots?
                    2. Puma
                      Puma 7 December 2017 02: 13 New
                      +5
                      Then, that the meaning and value of the statement depends little on the preferences of the author. You can learn a lot from smart enemies. This is better than listening to stupid friends.
                    3. Orionvit
                      Orionvit 7 December 2017 07: 28 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Vladimir16
                      Why quote people who wanted the death of a Russian person and his life spent just that

                      Churchill was a ghoul, but you can’t call him a fool. Correctly said, it concerns everyone.
                      You don’t want to see Russia on your coven, so we have nothing to do there
                      Just do not send the team to the Olympics, leave everything as it is, swallow all the humiliation without a decent answer, this is a shame.
                2. iaroslav.mudryi
                  iaroslav.mudryi 6 December 2017 20: 33 New
                  10
                  To cheer for our athletes, you need to at least see them on the “box”, but for now there is information about the failure of our main channels (1TV, Russia TV, Match TV) to broadcast games to Russia:
                  1) http://patriot-su-rf.ru/blog/43416171289/Zapad-vo
                  zmuschen: -Otkaz-telekanalov-RF-ot-translyatsii-Ol
                  impiysk
                  2) https://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/2
                  01711171648-zzat.htm
                  1. sir_obs
                    sir_obs 6 December 2017 21: 14 New
                    +9
                    The broadcasting contracts have already been closed, refuse to get on the headstock. And our business books are not so many patriots that grandmas lose.
                    They are contaminated and then, as usual, will merge.
                3. svd-xnumx
                  svd-xnumx 6 December 2017 21: 13 New
                  28
                  I think the survey reflects the mood in the country, I personally declare a boycott for this Olympiad: I will not watch the competition and even be interested in the results.
                  1. Kent0001
                    Kent0001 6 December 2017 23: 02 New
                    17
                    I, too, have to bring us to the ETU Olympiad.
                4. Dead duck
                  Dead duck 6 December 2017 21: 17 New
                  59
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Will you cheer for Russian athletes with a neutral flag?

                  What vote? ... what are you talking about ...
                  These were the athletes

                  and now businessmen
                  PS "At the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games in Tokyo (1964), the USSR national team entered the stadium. The passage through the Olympic circle ranged from entry to placement at the stadium for 25-30 minutes. All this time, Soviet athlete Yuri Vlasov, the standard bearer of the Olympic team, carried flag weighing 2,5-3 kg. on outstretched arm ... !!!
                  It was a SHOCK for athletes and reporters all over the world !!! ... in the future, many tried to repeat this action of the Russian Glorious Strongman - no one has managed to repeat it today "
                  1. Solomon Kane
                    Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 21: 35 New
                    19
                    And I would send this team for biathlon and let them try to ban the tricolor and anthem ....
                    1. Dead duck
                      Dead duck 6 December 2017 21: 42 New
                      10
                      Quote: Solomon Kane
                      And I would send this team for biathlon and let them try to ban the tricolor and anthem ...

                      hi skiers removed ... they have no choice request
                      and what’s most interesting, none of those who want it thinks, but what should be done with this (detached) ?! will they carry a rag for them?
                      PS hint about skiers realized if that winked
                      1. Solomon Kane
                        Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 22: 07 New
                        +8
                        In 1984, nothing was wrong with our Olympus. national team did not happen ...
                        And after all, no one removed, it was just a shame for the Motherland .....
                    2. serg.shishkov2015
                      serg.shishkov2015 7 December 2017 06: 13 New
                      0
                      5555555 !!!!!!
                  2. grandson of the hero
                    grandson of the hero 6 December 2017 23: 04 New
                    +2
                    Alexander Bear !!! He carried the flag in one outstretched hand!
                    1. Dead duck
                      Dead duck 6 December 2017 23: 57 New
                      10
                      Quote: the grandson of the hero
                      Alexander Bear !!! He carried the flag in one outstretched hand!

                      He is Russian, he can.
              2. Alexander War
                Alexander War 6 December 2017 19: 37 New
                +9
                They will perform, for whom the main thing is sport and they devoted their whole life to this, here they have a small plus if they bring gold or silver. For them, too, the choice is difficult!
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 6 December 2017 19: 54 New
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                  Alexander War
                  Will perform, for whom the main thing is sport and their whole life they shone this

                  And during the Second World War for the Red Army, what was the main thing?

                  here they have a small plus IF they bring gold or silver
                  That's it - IF!
                  1. Alexander War
                    Alexander War 6 December 2017 20: 08 New
                    +2
                    I’m telling my athletes their choice whether they don’t go or if they go, they must either bring a gold or silver medal, what’s the point if they go and come without medals at all, they will be between a rock and a hard place
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 6 December 2017 20: 13 New
                      14
                      They will come without medals even if they honestly win the championship! Why not understand something here ?! Not for this all this was started! They will be all spat upon !!!
                      1. Alexander War
                        Alexander War 6 December 2017 20: 17 New
                        20
                        Kim Jin-un may disqualify everyone there
                      2. Solomon Kane
                        Solomon Kane 6 December 2017 21: 38 New
                        20
                        And if they earn it, after 2 years the IOC will take it away, such as Plutonium -239 found in urine .....
                  2. Dead duck
                    Dead duck 6 December 2017 21: 20 New
                    14
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    And during the Second World War for the Red Army, what was the main thing?

                    In a slave, feudal, capitalist society, sport is just a form of gladiatorial fighting, nothing more than a way to distract the masses from their class interests, overshadow the injustice in the distribution of bread with spectacles. Bourgeois sport generates imaginary solidarity, and with it solidarity, corporatism, and - as you descendants who watched the German 1936 Olympiad of the year, you know very well - it pours water on the mill of fascism.
                    Konstantin Semin. AgitProp.
                    https://agitblog.ru/articles/prisluzhivat-mozhno-
                    igrat-nelzya.html
                  3. Andkor1962
                    Andkor1962 7 December 2017 04: 49 New
                    0
                    Yes, what are you? How can they beat the sick "athletes"? They are sorry!
                2. Alf
                  Alf 6 December 2017 21: 47 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Alexander War
                  if they bring gold or silver

                  Bring, bring. And after six months they will be disqualified, and they will offer to hand over medals. Oh, and not ashamed of ours ... allow this.
              3. In100gram
                In100gram 6 December 2017 21: 24 New
                +9
                Quote: Tatiana
                The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of OI, and tomorrow they will perform abroad in foreign clubs

                Well, take the hockey players. Their NHL at the world championships does not let go. They share their money there. How long has this been going on? Betrayal in sports has been going on for a long time. An example of Domracheva or Anna (Victor) taught nothing to anyone. You need to develop your sport, and not use someone else's, and not give your own. We need to decide why we need sports of the highest achievements, or we need sports for public health. I have not seen a single athlete of the highest achievements healthy after the end of his career. There are many defectors, but it is not for me to judge them. Each of them has its own motivation. Something like this hi
              4. gladcu2
                gladcu2 6 December 2017 22: 57 New
                +8
                The title of citizen obliges. . Your rights are dictated by your responsibilities.

                Athletes represent their country first. At the olympic games.
              5. Tusv
                Tusv 6 December 2017 23: 47 New
                0
                Quote: Tatiana
                The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of the Olympic Games, and tomorrow they will speak abroad in foreign clubs as citizens of foreign countries. As they say, a tablecloth is dear to them!

                Tatyana, have you ever been responsible that rush like that?
                I was even a Captain. What does this mean? For example, save the Circle and then tear everyone. How it works? In the circle of carpet / tatami, the entire Team looks at the actions of one fighter. One screwed up - others know how to win, the main thing is to know where he screwed up, but without the Circle it’s not how. It was invented before me, I just seated my wrestlers in a Circle hi
                And how can it be without a Circle? Throwing a catch - 50% of the injury, if not supported - Come on, and the injury heals faster
                1. BecmepH
                  BecmepH 7 December 2017 06: 48 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Tusv
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  The betrayal of the Motherland - Russia is a personal choice of the athletes themselves! Today they will perform under the neutral flag of the Olympic Games, and tomorrow they will speak abroad in foreign clubs as citizens of foreign countries. As they say, a tablecloth is dear to them!

                  Tatyana, have you ever been responsible that rush like that?
                  I was even a Captain. What does this mean? For example, save the Circle and then tear everyone. How it works? In the circle of carpet / tatami, the entire Team looks at the actions of one fighter. One screwed up - others know how to win, the main thing is to know where he screwed up, but without the Circle it’s not how. It was invented before me, I just seated my wrestlers in a Circle hi
                  And how can it be without a Circle? Throwing a catch - 50% of the injury, if not supported - Come on, and the injury heals faster

                  Sorry, but I personally did not understand anything from your comment. The incoherent speech you got. About like Klitschko. Blows to the head (and head) affect.
            2. Nonna
              Nonna 6 December 2017 19: 22 New
              82
              A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now even without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ... Patriotism is now expensive - it’s easier to lower our pants and say: “We don’t quarrel with partners ... and cowardly wipe. Yes, and Kremlin propagandists will now explain to the people - just smear it with petroleum jelly .... and everything will be in order
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 6 December 2017 19: 34 New
                20
                Our country has a valve at the helm.
              2. Dead duck
                Dead duck 6 December 2017 19: 37 New
                13
                Quote: Nonna
                A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now, without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ...

                now we also get an invisible split ...
                here the liberals will rejoice .... no
                1. Kent0001
                  Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 34 New
                  16
                  I think today we have already received it.
                  1. Andkor1962
                    Andkor1962 7 December 2017 04: 54 New
                    +2
                    It also seems to me that it was the Rubicon, which we (or rather Putin) crossed. Only somewhere wrong.
              3. Giants
                Giants 6 December 2017 20: 59 New
                12
                Nonna Today, 19:22 ↑
                A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now even without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ... Patriotism is now expensive - it’s easier to lower our pants and say: “We don’t quarrel with partners ... and cowardly wipe. Yes, and Kremlin propagandists will now explain to the people - just smear it with petroleum jelly .... and everything will be in order
                In vain you are so ... The local Zaputinians have one answer to everything incomprehensible: Who is not Putin, then who?
                1. Winnie76
                  Winnie76 6 December 2017 21: 58 New
                  0
                  Quote: Giants
                  In vain you are so ... The local Zaputinians have one answer to everything incomprehensible: Who is not Putin, then who?

                  Well, and who? Or maybe in history, who better remember over the past 100 years?
                  1. Giants
                    Giants 6 December 2017 22: 11 New
                    +6
                    Horse in a coat. At least it will not cover the thieves.
                    Quote: Winnie76
                    Or maybe in history, who better remember over the past 100 years?

                    Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin, Slave Galley his little finger is not worth it.
                    1. Winnie76
                      Winnie76 6 December 2017 23: 03 New
                      +2
                      Quote: Giants
                      Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin, Slave Galley his little finger is not worth it.

                      Was he the president or the secretary general? Or maybe a king? Giants, strain your cerebellum, or whatever you have. Who was better than Putin? Name, sister, name?
                      1. Giants
                        Giants 6 December 2017 23: 49 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Winnie76
                        Was he the president or the secretary general? Or maybe a king?

                        He was a true patriot of Russia, unlike your idol. I am sure that you, like Putin, this concept is an empty phrase. Have you been on an excursion in EBN Center for a long time? It is necessary to repeat!
                    2. Mestny
                      Mestny 6 December 2017 23: 12 New
                      +7
                      Which one was killed in 1998?
                      On the night of July 2–3, 1998, he was found murdered at his own dacha in the village of Klokovo, Naro-Fominsk District, Moscow Region. According to the official version, his wife, Tamara Rokhlina shot the sleeping Rokhlin, a family quarrel was called the reason. He was buried on July 7, 1998 at the Troekurovsky cemetery.

                      One writes for Sobchak will vote, the other for the deceased hero.
                      Did you get internet to the hospital?
                  2. Overlock
                    Overlock 6 December 2017 22: 42 New
                    +4
                    Well, if the GDP will try. then another 200 years, elections in Russia will be a formality. After all, the GDP was striving for the current situation of lack of fish!
                  3. Ami du peuple
                    Ami du peuple 6 December 2017 23: 04 New
                    17
                    Quote: Winnie76
                    Or maybe in history, who better remember over the past 100 years?
                    Stalin.
                    1. Winnie76
                      Winnie76 6 December 2017 23: 24 New
                      0
                      Quote: Ami du peuple
                      Stalin

                      Debatable. Frankly leaked at the beginning of World War II. Cult of personality, camps, spy mania, denunciations. Even if 10% true. Although industrialization, the nuclear shield is his merit
                      1. Ami du peuple
                        Ami du peuple 6 December 2017 23: 28 New
                        +9
                        Quote: Winnie76
                        Controversial
                        And now tell us about the indisputable achievements of Vladimir, the light of Vladimirovich. I look forward to it.
                      2. Nitochkin
                        Nitochkin 7 December 2017 04: 54 New
                        0
                        The cult of personality? Are you reading Khrushchev’s memoirs?
                2. Andkor1962
                  Andkor1962 7 December 2017 05: 03 New
                  +3
                  Shoigu !!!!!! I did not read negative about him (even hints). I will definitely not vote for Putin now !!!!!!!!!
                  1. Serg koma
                    Serg koma 7 December 2017 07: 18 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Andkor1962
                    I did not read negative about him (even hints)

                    Russian statesman Center Director emergency psychological assistance from the Ministry of the Russian Federation for Civil Defense, Emergencies and Disaster Management since 2002 (1977 gp[/ b]. -In 1999, after graduation, she came to work in the Center for Emergency Psychological Aid of the Ministry of Emergencies of Russia and [b] began working as an ordinary psychologist - probably the MOST competent / smart specialist in this organization was, if such a career. ), vice-president of RPO, deputy chairman of the Ethics Committee of RPO, candidate of psychological sciences, eldest daughter of the Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation S.K. Shoigu.

                    Some of the leaders of the wife are "smart", others have children ....
              4. BecmepH
                BecmepH 7 December 2017 06: 53 New
                +3
                Quote: Nonna
                A country without principles, without ideology, without a rudder and sails; and now even without a flag and an anthem, it is moving to a lowered position in the world hut ... Patriotism is now expensive - it’s easier to lower our pants and say: “We don’t quarrel with partners ... and cowardly wipe. Yes, and Kremlin propagandists will now explain to the people - just smear it with petroleum jelly .... and everything will be in order

                I am proud of women (judging by the nickname) on our website. A clear, firm, patriotic position. Learn men
            3. Nikolai Grek
              Nikolai Grek 6 December 2017 19: 46 New
              13
              Quote: Sergey-svs
              Fine! The team of Rodchenkov and Stepanova is waiting for new participants. negative And here, in a conscientious way, the payment for treason from our Western "partners" arrived in time! yes Although what is this "betrayal" ?! Sport, as you know, is outside politics, because there is no betrayal, what difference does it make under whose flag? Again, do you know how hard life is for athletes ??? Exhausting workouts, fees, regimen, diet. They do not spare themselves, one might say. crying These are not some submariners out there who sit under water for six months. They just lay in bed and sleep for yourself. And not the pilots in Syria - those in general in the resort, here is winter, and there the Mediterranean Sea is at hand. And athletes - they walk on the blade every day. In general, this is not a betrayal, and who are they to ignore the instructions of the Kremlin oligarch officials from a NEUTRAL country! When, Deputy Prime Minister Dvorkovich called on Russian athletes to go to the 2018 Olympics, he believes that the “neutral status” of athletes is not important in this case ... And the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, said that the Russian authorities would not impede the participation of Russian athletes in Pyeongchang Olympic Games in personal capacity under the neutral flag! fool So, to spit on the flag, anthem and humiliation of Russia, let us rather run for medals and dallars! am

              let them finally take these athletes ... all of our medalists have been removed !!! laughing laughing laughing in principle, a semi-quirky bang could calmly admit our team under the Russian flag, because they removed all our real "medal" athletes !!! wink yes wassat wassat wassat
            4. Lexus
              Lexus 6 December 2017 19: 49 New
              27
              The cause of Judah lives and thrives.
            5. NordOst16
              NordOst16 6 December 2017 21: 22 New
              0
              Yes, in general, idlers are athletes. Once a week they go to a rocking chair, they eat overseas caviar and bask in the oven for the remaining time, and then they want more money for it. Wow are insolent.
              Well, you can dismiss the crew of sailors who were preparing for the project 22350 ship because it is not ready and we need to boycott this ship.
              Although I agree that this must be answered. But in a slightly different way - all athletes who will participate must receive medals. And then the FSB will find an informant about doping programs in the most "active" countries. This will be beautiful, because then it will be possible to stream these states on-air.
              1. Ami du peuple
                Ami du peuple 6 December 2017 23: 08 New
                +5
                Quote: NordOst16
                And then the FSB will find an informant about doping programs in the most "active" countries.
                You are talking nonsense. Right now, the townsfolk and authorities of the "civilized West" evidence "from the FSB" will seriously consider.
                1. NordOst16
                  NordOst16 7 December 2017 00: 14 New
                  0
                  Well, they won’t shake the dope Falcon in front of the public, and more material evidence will lead
            6. ArhipenkoAndrey
              ArhipenkoAndrey 7 December 2017 05: 53 New
              0
              So the sportsman, forgive the tutka who pays and dances, what kind of a flag, what kind of anthem, babalos and personal ambitions at someone else’s expense and for free - is this the face of Russian sport? If the sportsmen still have crumbs of HONOR, then performing under the white flag is already a loss and it doesn’t matter what place and what color the piece of iron is hung on your chest, you capitulated before starting to compete and already lost by participating in this farce, called the Olympic Games in Pyeongchang! Everyone has a conscience or not.
            7. gaura
              gaura 7 December 2017 06: 14 New
              +2
              That's right, the last time those who appeared under a neutral flag were thrown by the authorities and not paid. Right, you represented a neutral country, so let a neutral country pay. Now this neutral country will be the IOC itself. But I think that in Russia, these athletes will then have nothing to do
          2. dorz
            dorz 6 December 2017 19: 54 New
            +8
            Quote: Nikolay S.
            “If, choosing between war and shame, you prefer shame, then in the end you will inevitably get both war and shame ...” - W. Churchill.

            The IOC President, German Thomas Bach, has again declared the start of the war.
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        3. Lexus
          Lexus 6 December 2017 19: 52 New
          +7
          Mar. Thira Today, 18:58 ↑ New
          But it is necessary to punish the insolence in the courts. Moreover, the rules of the Olympic Charter say that unrecognized countries and states in which military operations are taking place under the Olympic flag. Dear IOC, since when has Russia become an unrecognized country? On what basis was the decision made to remove the Russian team from the opening and closing ceremonies? The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.

          Yeah, complain about the ghouls to the huckster).
        4. stalkerwalker
          stalkerwalker 6 December 2017 20: 02 New
          12
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.

          And where did you see the countries of "non-polite democracy" the concept of legality applied to Russia in recent years?
          These are no longer double standards. This is direct and overt pressure on Russia as a state. And the GDP responded to this with a statement about the desire to be president of Russia further.
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 6 December 2017 21: 01 New
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            Quote: stalkerwalker
            And the GDP responded to this with a statement about the desire to be president of Russia further.

            Yes ... he answered. That he still wants to hold power in his miserable, sweaty, cowardly hands ...
            1. Winnie76
              Winnie76 6 December 2017 22: 04 New
              +4
              Quote: Barkhan
              Yes ... he answered. That he still wants to hold power in his miserable, sweaty, cowardly hands ...

              Fan Ksyushadi Detected
              1. Overlock
                Overlock 6 December 2017 22: 43 New
                +4
                do you know anyone except Ksyusha?
                1. Winnie76
                  Winnie76 6 December 2017 23: 11 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Overlock
                  do you know anyone except Ksyusha?

                  And then laughing Navalny, Maltsev, Zyuganov, Yavlinsky, Zhirinovsky, Khodorkovsky.
                  Eat not oblypaytes.
                  1. Overlock
                    Overlock 6 December 2017 23: 54 New
                    +3
                    how narrow-minded you are, go around liberal parties. all of your friends and nobody you want to know around
                  2. asiat_61
                    asiat_61 7 December 2017 03: 38 New
                    +1
                    Actually Titov, for general development.
                    1. Andkor1962
                      Andkor1962 7 December 2017 05: 09 New
                      0
                      Yes, it’s better than ... (in the light of recent statements). I’m just wondering how many he lost in a day.
              2. komvap
                komvap 7 December 2017 04: 13 New
                +3
                Quote: Winnie76
                Quote: Barkhan
                Yes ... he answered. That he still wants to hold power in his miserable, sweaty, cowardly hands ...

                Fan Ksyushadi Detected

                Actually, the fan of Ksyushadi is the one who is for Putin - her friend
              3. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 7 December 2017 08: 47 New
                +5
                [quote = Vinnie76] Fan Ksyushadi Detected
                I’m a fan of Stalin. And I hate fiercely all of your treacherous and deceitful liberalism. It was Putin who dragged a suitcase and executed orders from Sobchak, not me. their number, and this is all dissatisfied with Putin’s actions ... And when a decent figure comes, and she comes, the time and events have ripened, then all the trash will be swept away with snot.
        5. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 6 December 2017 20: 06 New
          13
          International law is the right of the strong and nothing more.
        6. alexhol
          alexhol 6 December 2017 20: 56 New
          0
          Sorry, but the GDP itself said: “First of all, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was not used in an honest way, to put it mildly. " Which court?
          1. tomket
            tomket 7 December 2017 01: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: alexhol
            Sorry, but the GDP itself said: “First of all, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was not used in an honest way, to put it mildly. " Which court?

            So that? Will we pay and repent?
            1. Town Hall
              Town Hall 7 December 2017 01: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: tomket
              Quote: alexhol
              Sorry, but the GDP itself said: “First of all, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. And secondly, I think that this reason was not used in an honest way, to put it mildly. " Which court?

              So that? Will we pay and repent?




              Well, if they admitted that they will have to blame, they will have to pay and repent. Moreover, the amount is small ... and there is certainly a hpp.
          2. Andkor1962
            Andkor1962 7 December 2017 05: 10 New
            +1
            And why then there are no resignations of Mudko and Zhukovlinsky?
        7. Hlavaty
          Hlavaty 6 December 2017 21: 20 New
          +7
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          And you need to punish the insoles in the courts.

          That is, to play by their rules? Barren occupation.
          It is necessary to work personally, with point strikes. For example, as with the former IMF chairman. As soon as he decided to kick back, it immediately became clear that he was badly pestering the maid in the hotel. The scandal was fanned and he resigned. A few years later they found out that it was not true, but nobody was interested in it.
        8. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 7 December 2017 07: 28 New
          0
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          And you need to punish the insolent court

          Who are the judges? wink
        9. free
          free 7 December 2017 09: 23 New
          +2
          Quote: Mar. Tira
          But it is necessary to punish the insolence in the courts. Moreover, the rules of the Olympic Charter say that unrecognized countries and states in which military operations are taking place under the Olympic flag. Dear IOC, since when has Russia become an unrecognized country? On what basis was the decision made to remove the Russian team from the opening and closing ceremonies? The decision was made outside the framework of the procedural legislation.

          Ever since when the country is ruled by oligarchs who from the west hold tightly by the eggs.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 6 December 2017 19: 04 New
        41
        First of all, do not sprinkle ashes on your head. And do not say that you yourself are partially to blame .. It’s your own fault! And finally make a decision that is worthy of the Head of State, who was humiliated ... Send the IOC with mongrel to ...!
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

        Well, what's your suggestion?
        1. Viktor77
          Viktor77 6 December 2017 19: 38 New
          20
          Unfortunately, the IOC is only the tip of the iceberg, so to speak! Our authorities are constantly making excuses to ... well, I don’t know what to call .. "masters" or something. At best, they express concern or concern.
          But you need to be tougher! Otherwise, they will "kick".
          The country is rich, self-sufficient EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?
          1. Sergey53
            Sergey53 6 December 2017 19: 55 New
            23
            Quote: Viktor77
            Unfortunately, the IOC is only the tip of the iceberg, so to speak! Our authorities are constantly making excuses to ... well, I don’t know what to call .. "masters" or something. At best, they express concern or concern.
            But you need to be tougher! Otherwise, they will "kick".
            The country is rich, self-sufficient EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?

            How can one behave harshly when there are villas, mansions, firms, and money withdrawn from Russia abroad. Not just money, but MONEY. No one here wants to aggravate the situation, or is afraid. By the way, the IOC admitted that McLaren’s report was one of the conditions, which means no courts, no lawsuits.
          2. igor1981
            igor1981 6 December 2017 20: 03 New
            18
            Quote: Viktor77
            The country is rich, self-sufficient EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?


            And the accounts in Western banks and the "golden children", who study and live in Western Europe and the USA, interfere. I advise everyone to watch the movie "Sleeping", it shows how our many "bureaucrats" are held by our Western "partners".
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              1. insular
                insular 7 December 2017 05: 22 New
                0
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Do not judge people by yourself

                Right By itself should not. Let's judge by the grannies, blaming the bad youth, the thieves of officials, while digging flowers from city beds ... This is just the beginning. Upon closer examination, a feeling inevitably arises that everyone is dragging everything that lies badly. Sellers deceive buyers, buyers of sellers, but all of them are deceived by road workers and communal services, who at one time were deceived by consumers of utility services with cuts and twists, and all this revolves around industries where those who produce earn money for everyone who does not do anything.
                Quote: Ami du peuple
                Apparently, you are a man-stomach without honor and conscience

                And if according to your version there is a stomach man who lives in consumerism, then in those who out of the whole text angrily preach only at the first sentence, without going into the rest, I see a man-ass, that you don’t cram, you get feces only.
              2. QWERTY
                QWERTY 7 December 2017 12: 20 New
                +1
                It’s not up to you to judge my honor and conscience. But, as is usual with us, blaming someone else for anything is not an example easier than living on conscience itself.
          4. 34 region
            34 region 6 December 2017 21: 51 New
            +9
            Viktor77 Today, 19:38. *** The country is rich, self-sufficient IN EVERYTHING !!! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent? *** What is in the way? Probably the psychology of an opportunist. The main thing is to stick and adapt. Since the 90s, they are trying to stick to the global economy. But there they clearly know who is worth what. Here and indicate the place of these opportunists. Adherents thought their place at the trough or steering wheel, but it turned out to be near the toilet. But they entered the system of the world economy! And all this talk about a multipolar world turns out to be fiction. Russia does not want to create an alternative, but wants to enter the world economy, even a carcass, even a scarecrow! So much for the ridicule - Ukraine ce Europe! We have the same. Russia is part of the global economy! In the 90s they spat in the USSR. Then did not like the Soviet. Caved in and refused. Today they spit on Russia. We bend again and refuse? Tomorrow we will be part of the global economy and we will speak under what flag? England, USA ... ??? Becoming already the Russian state of the USA?
          5. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2017 21: 51 New
            +9
            Quote: Viktor77
            ! What prevents us from becoming independent and truly independent?

            The presence of bandits in power.
          6. Andkor1962
            Andkor1962 7 December 2017 05: 15 New
            +1
            Here you can answer ... a lot. Offhand. Money in government bonds, Money in offshore, Children who do not care about RUSSIA and who spend more abroad than at home. And all their thoughts are there. (And they are easy to pinch)
      3. dorz
        dorz 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
        18
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

        Well, what's your suggestion?

        It is necessary to ban the broadcast on television of the Olympics in 2018.
        1. Icarus
          Icarus 6 December 2017 20: 32 New
          12
          This is just a blow to the weakest point of the IOC committee - affordable.
          1. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2017 21: 54 New
            +3
            Quote: Icarus
            This is just a blow to the weakest point of the IOC committee - affordable.

            This is just a blow to the most tender place of our TV channels. And to earn loot, these TV channels will do anything.
            1. Puma
              Puma 7 December 2017 02: 37 New
              0
              Is not a fact. Eurovision is not broadcast. If the broadcast rights have not yet been paid or are not fully paid, it is very likely that it is cheaper to refuse - there will be problems with the sale of advertising time.
          2. 34 region
            34 region 6 December 2017 21: 58 New
            +4
            Icarus Today, 20:32. *** This is just a blow to the weakest point of the IOC Committee - affordable. *** The pocket is a weak spot for everyone. And very painful. If the pockets begin to exchange blows, it is not yet known which pocket will be more painful. Therefore, Russia does not want to hit in the pockets. From this, you can either lose consciousness or die. After all, they can hit the pockets of Russia, which it has a lot in other territories. Some have military bases and banks everywhere, while others have nest egg everywhere.
        2. KaPToC
          KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 33 New
          +7
          Quote: dorz
          It is necessary to ban the broadcast on television of the Olympics in 2018.

          There are two points here: firstly, they won’t look at it in Russia, and secondly, all the same, the Olympic business’s main earnings are not in Russia.
          1. Andkor1962
            Andkor1962 7 December 2017 05: 17 New
            +1
            About PACE, they also said something like this.
      4. stalkerwalker
        stalkerwalker 6 December 2017 19: 08 New
        11
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        Scream here with a smart look ....
        1. asiat_61
          asiat_61 7 December 2017 03: 44 New
          0
          Here for this and allowed in Russia tyrnet.
      5. andrew42
        andrew42 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
        45
        The offer is simple. The current IOC is sent in 3 letters. Russian cooperation with the IOC is suspended. Athletes are made aware that speaking under the white flag, they may not count on the Russian flag in the future.
        1. Alf
          Alf 6 December 2017 21: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: andrew42
          Athletes are made aware that speaking under the white flag, they may not count on the Russian flag in the future.

          Who will do this? The one who said that
          that we ourselves are partly to blame
          ?
      6. Navigator Basov
        Navigator Basov 6 December 2017 19: 13 New
        16
        We need to create our own EAOK - the Euro-Asian Olympic Committee, with blackjack and other advantages. Just as the Internal Affairs Directorate will eventually draw a good third of the world against the background of justice and observance of the letter and spirit of the Olympic movement, not formally declared (Pierre de Coubertin rotates in a coffin), but the actual one. We offered them a multipolar world, and they impose a unipolar one - they will end up with a bipolar one again, with an arms race and other distortions. Only we are already taught. I would like to hope so, at least.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 6 December 2017 22: 07 New
          10
          Navigator Basov Today, 19:13. We offer them a multipolar world !? And we are trying to integrate ourselves into their world! Where is the logic of Russia? Where is our movement to create our own, Russian world? Why do we integrate into the English world with his English philosophy? Why do we persistently strive to become an English colony?
          1. Navigator Basov
            Navigator Basov 6 December 2017 23: 48 New
            +1
            We offer them, yes. It is impossible not to see.
            https://rueconomics.ru/268191-mnogopolyarnyi-mir-
            putina-pugaet-zapad
            We’re not trying to integrate, they are already integrated. Especially some who, by their personal dependence on the dollar, increase state dependence. Russia has logic, but not everyone agrees with it, which is precisely why their personal interests and the logic associated with them prevail over the logic of Russia. There is a movement for the creation of the Russian world, but there is little of it, as long as the levers are all tied up both on their world and on the world of individuals, which are embedded in their world. Why? Because they are attracted to this world at the moment, all naturally, all the same people. They don’t really know how to work with us at all, they can’t raise a culture in any way, nor can they build an ideology (they all refer to the ridiculous constitutional ban on ideology, which does not exist; in fact, they simply cannot in any ideology, and besides, the world’s world order is undergoing post-industrial crisis, and no one in the world can offer anything new, although in Russia some hares of a humanistic world order revolve in the language). But in general, we strive to break out of this vicious circle, much has been done, but much remains to be done.
      7. Azazelo
        Azazelo 6 December 2017 19: 15 New
        17
        Launch your own competitions and put on all of these corrupt and stinky scum. We will assemble the composition as in a tank biathlon, and let the rest be a hose.
      8. Bradypodidae
        Bradypodidae 6 December 2017 19: 18 New
        22
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

        Well, what's your suggestion?

        To withdraw from the treaty on the non-proliferation of nuclear weapons, to make a gas OPEC with Iran, in a day, the IOC will scream with might and main that they were supposedly mistaken, like a computer malfunction.
      9. GAF
        GAF 6 December 2017 19: 56 New
        20
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        May I answer. In war as in war. There was a complete failure of the Israeli-American project to reformat the BV, (Peters map), Crimea, Ukraine ... The exceptional public does not forgive this. They will beat in all the “holes”, as is observed. The tactics of closing up individual holes is an ineffective tool. Obviously, we need a war strategy on all fronts, subordinate to GOALS. It is well said by the poet about Russia: "Remember the mysterious tactical device: When we retreat, it is we GO." And of course, the key to success is a reliable rear! ??? Here it is necessary to restore order first of all.
        1. Monos
          Monos 6 December 2017 20: 17 New
          11
          Quote: GAF
          “Remember the mysterious tactical device: When we retreat, it is we GO.”

          laughing This is Igor Rasteryaev sang
      10. PavelAl
        PavelAl 6 December 2017 20: 33 New
        18
        Good evening.
        I think it would be possible to organize parallel competitions for our athletes, say, in Sochi. The infrastructure allows you to provide interactive distance guidance over time of the same Fourcade or Koukalova online or on record (for supporters of a competitive spirit). For team sports, such as hockey, to gather teams from the KHL regular season as rivals, I think it would be prestigious for young people to fight the Olympic team, or they could invite from other countries, maybe they would come.
        Prizes should be provided according to the Olympic price list (refusal to pay to the IOC would cover the costs).
        RUSADA would be responsible for the doping (according to all the rules, and not taking into account doping for medical reasons).
        Call Fair Games 2018 or Games Out of Politics 2018
        Broadcast on TV only our games with a comparison of the overall result.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 6 December 2017 22: 15 New
          10
          PavelAl Today, 20:33. I consider this a sensible proposal. But our government officials believe that Russia without the West will not survive from the word, completely. Therefore, he does not want to butt with the West on any issues. Therefore, we do not finance or develop anything domestic. What for? All the best there! It was in vain that Kerensky was not allowed to surrender Petrograd to the Germans. It was in vain that they repelled the offensive on June 22. But in the 90s we recouped in full and surrendered everything! Now we eat sausages, drink Bavarian and drive a BMW! Great! That’s the whole psychology of contemporary Russian politics. hi
      11. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 6 December 2017 20: 34 New
        0
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        to sing the anthem of Russia to all our fans in the stadium if our athletes win
        1. olimpiada15
          olimpiada15 6 December 2017 21: 34 New
          13
          There will not be our athletes. They will not be with passports of citizens of the Russian Federation.
          And what kind of sport is it, if “pure athletes” go to the competitions “dumbfounded by drugs” for health reasons. It’s a pity that they don’t spend budget money on sports, but on the maintenance of the country's traitors. Instead of dispersing these bastards who dishonored the country, it is disgusting to hear "themselves guilty".
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 7 December 2017 07: 30 New
            0
            Quote: olimpiada15
            There will not be our athletes. They will not be with passports of citizens of the Russian Federation.

            well, ours will be all one, there will be no national team yes
      12. Juborg
        Juborg 6 December 2017 20: 57 New
        11
        What could be the proposal if we do not have a state and its leaders, some thieves and those who sell Russia.
      13. sir_obs
        sir_obs 6 December 2017 21: 18 New
        +2
        And to send polite people there, As they want, without flags, without identification marks. And they will politely explain everything to everyone.
      14. user
        user 6 December 2017 21: 37 New
        11
        Well, what's your suggestion?


        In principle, it is one, you need to have competent managers. But it turns out that Mutko, who had to be driven into the neck after the Olympics in Vancouver, was appointed deputy prime minister. Zhukov who, in addition to all kinds of statements in the media, did NOTHING to protect our athletes. Koloskov was the chairman of the FIFA committee for the Olympic tournaments in 1984, 1988, 1992, 1996 and 2000, but if you remember, they tried to excommunicate him from the Olympic affairs back in the late 80s, but such a substance does not sink. and now we have what we have, as in Roscosmos - the problems are the same.
      15. Sergey Medvedev
        Sergey Medvedev 6 December 2017 22: 29 New
        16
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        1. Stop funding all international sports organizations that participate in the persecution of our athletes.
        2. Prohibit the broadcasting of sports competitions of these organizations.
        3. TFR to initiate an investigation into the unlawful prosecution of Russian citizens.
        That's right, I never voted for Putin. He showed himself as a rare match.
      16. DMoroz
        DMoroz 6 December 2017 23: 12 New
        +5
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        Asymmetrical
        To give all athletes of Russia two-week Belarusian citizenship without depriving them of Russian citizenship, let them stand for Belarus (with the inclusion of Russian places in the BR national team plus), the Old Man, I think, will not mind ...
      17. PSih2097
        PSih2097 7 December 2017 01: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        Well, what's your suggestion?

        complete ignoring of the IOC and WADA, plus cutting off funding to zero ... am
        But Putin - in his speech confirmed that he is a temporary worker and a comprador, the prestige of the state is an empty phrase for him (only concerns can portray), as well as his government led by Chupa-Chups ... am
        I just have a question - where will they bring them together with all their coeds in case of the time “Ch” and the order “carpet”? what
      18. LeonidL
        LeonidL 7 December 2017 03: 55 New
        +2
        The offer is as simple as a Columbus egg - to hold the Olympic Games in 2018 simultaneously with the IOC, with a much larger prize pool than the IOC, with Olympic medals and the invitation of all athletes from all countries, refusal to broadcast, refusal to pay to the IOC, refusal to pay WADA, the requirement to present evidence, and in case of refusal, to initiate criminal cases for falsification, sanctions against the IOC in general and those who voted for disgrace in particular. Return to the IOC and WADA only in case of their complete reform - in particular, an honest and proportional representation of all countries. The ban on “fig leaflets” of drugs allowed by the “good” doctors, but in fact doping. Complete and final prohibition of "collective punishment" contrary to the basic provisions of international law. Landings in the IOC and WADA only according to the standards adopted by the criminal law, that is, a competitive court with the presentation of evidence and the debate of the parties.
      19. Victor N
        Victor N 7 December 2017 06: 44 New
        +3
        Sending a team and financing it is CATEGORALLY IMPOSSIBLE!
        It is also impossible to prohibit the participation of individual athletes, but it is necessary to despise those who have gone.
        SHOW BUSINESS needs to indicate its place!
        And it's time to debunk the "heroes-athletes" who bring nothing to society and mutilate themselves.
      20. Victor N
        Victor N 7 December 2017 06: 56 New
        +1
        I looked at the suggestions in the comments and it is, in general, absolutely correct.
        One nuance that many did not notice: Putin did not say that he would send the team and would finance it, he said that there would be no boycott - and rightly so. But you can’t forbid anyone to travel: let them check their conscience. And we will draw the right conclusions.
    2. figwam
      figwam 6 December 2017 18: 55 New
      +9
      Yes, now they decide which of ours to speak, and who not.
      1. Kent0001
        Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 42 New
        17
        As a result, the best in the yard teams will be selected (there is definitely no doping there). Our all, without exception, will lose to the Asmatics-Norwegians and other sick fraternity, they will all be left without medals ... and then the partners will spit on us reliably and say to the whole world that without doping in sports we are just NOBODY. This will be the height of our disgrace, and they will experience a feeling of deep satisfaction from this.
        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 6 December 2017 21: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: Kent0001
          they will select the best in the yard teams (there is definitely no doping there)

          C'mon, there is no dope ... Ah, excuse me, "777", "Stolichnaya", "Baltika -9", "Hunting Strong"? Dope, he's like that, he's everywhere ... wassat
    3. Poll_0
      Poll_0 6 December 2017 18: 57 New
      21
      never play with those who play without rules
      but if you already sat down, then take off the fuse from a Kalashnikov assault rifle.
      1. dSK
        dSK 6 December 2017 19: 23 New
        23
        For lightning, orienteering, “Voroshilovsky shooter” less money is needed than for top players and “super stadiums”. And if the forty-first year? hi
        1. Orang
          Orang 6 December 2017 19: 59 New
          11
          Quote: dsk
          At the lightning, orienteering, "Voroshilovsky shooter"

          That's it. Plus the TRP is a must. Strong and trained people are more important than professional sports. And the guns are already audible.
    4. Alena Frolovna
      Alena Frolovna 6 December 2017 19: 01 New
      48
      This news is also very unpleasant for me. But something similar I also expected.
      Everyone has freedom of choice, but the horror takes on how many traitors go to where the RUSSIANS are not illegally allowed.

      Under a white rag
      Without objecting
      There is a team
      beggars

      direct road -
      to Olympus!

      From the unforgettable "Crocodile", when in the 1984 year a boycott of the Olympics was announced.


      So the Yankees and perverted the essence of OLYMPICS, trying to rake everything for themselves.
    5. Saburov
      Saburov 6 December 2017 19: 04 New
      27
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!


      I agree! And the statement of the Guarantor is neither Be, nor Me, nor Kukareku!



      PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 6 December 2017 19: 10 New
        14
        Quote: Saburov
        PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!

        Breakthrough - a tricky two-way plan - Putin's motto in this election
        1. Antianglosax
          Antianglosax 6 December 2017 19: 38 New
          24
          Quote: Svarog
          Quote: Saburov
          PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!

          Breakthrough - a tricky two-way plan - Putin's motto in this election

          I was just sure that Putin would say something like that. Now the number of people who did not come to the polls, or who came to spoil the ballot, will increase significantly.
          1. albert
            albert 6 December 2017 19: 45 New
            +4
            One could expect something like this from the guarantor ... request
          2. Kent0001
            Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 45 New
            +3
            A spoiled bell can be considered as a vote "Against all"?
            1. Tochilka
              Tochilka 6 December 2017 22: 24 New
              +1
              no, he will be counted as spoiled.
          3. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2017 21: 58 New
            +1
            Quote: Antianglosaks
            Now the number of people who did not come to the polls, or who came to spoil the ballot, will increase significantly.

            Who told you that if you do not come to the polls, then you will come to them?
      2. 210ox
        210ox 6 December 2017 19: 17 New
        17
        And why is it that He Himself is not in quotation marks and with a capital letter ... After all, he already does not guarantee anything .. Apart from his participation in the elections ..
        Quote: Saburov
        Quote: skeptic31
        What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!


        I agree! And the statement of the Guarantor is neither Be, nor Me, nor Kukareku!



        PS We believe in the Tricky Plan!
        1. Dead duck
          Dead duck 6 December 2017 19: 40 New
          17
          Quote: 210ox
          And why is it that He Himself is not in quotation marks and with a capital letter ... After all, he already does not guarantee anything .. Apart from his participation in the elections ..

          after such a setup and kidalov (at first the athletes did not support him, and now head to the vat with r ...) his rating will drop below the baseboard ... request
          or hopes for peskov and others like him?
          It would be better if Shoigu were candidates ...
          1. 210ox
            210ox 6 December 2017 19: 53 New
            +8
            I was waiting for a reasonable decision by the current leaders about Shoigu ... I thought that would put forward in my place .. Alas.
            Quote: Deadush
            Quote: 210ox
            And why is it that He Himself is not in quotation marks and with a capital letter ... After all, he already does not guarantee anything .. Apart from his participation in the elections ..

            after such a setup and kidalov (at first the athletes did not support him, and now head to the vat with r ...) his rating will drop below the baseboard ... request
            or hopes for peskov and others like him?
            It would be better if Shoigu were candidates ...
          2. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2017 22: 00 New
            +5
            Quote: Deadush
            his rating will fall below the plinth ...

            Bet you win with 99%?
            1. Dead duck
              Dead duck 6 December 2017 22: 10 New
              +6
              Quote: Alf
              Bet you win with 99%?

              This could have happened with EBEn ... and in your dreams.
              1. Mestny
                Mestny 6 December 2017 23: 33 New
                +1
                We put about 99 is of course bust. exactly the same as "everything is lost, this is a disaster, Putin has leaked everything."
                The state is not only athletes, not even just them. And no one is going to drop everything else from this event.
                Indeed, the situation is extremely unpleasant, the image hit is a serious one.
                Does this guide understand? Absolutely yes.
                And of course, like any reasonable management, it must first decide what kind of actions should be taken to eliminate or reduce undesirable consequences.
                Some uncertainty in the assessment in this situation at the stage of developing a response is completely understandable to adults, but completely incomprehensible to adolescents jumping on the Internet in hysteria about "putinsil."
                Whether adolescents come to polling stations does not bother anyone but the adolescents themselves. Fortunately, the vast majority of moaning in various forums have not yet entered the electoral age. And the adults remaining in this company by age, but not by mental development, are still not so significant that they would greatly affect the election.
                1. Dead duck
                  Dead duck 7 December 2017 00: 01 New
                  10
                  You should write fantastic stories.
                  Or scientific reports, as in the IOC and WADA.
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 7 December 2017 04: 12 New
                    -1
                    Scientific reports are not the only ones they write. Why are you so irreconcilably betrayed by science?
                2. Puma
                  Puma 7 December 2017 03: 15 New
                  +4
                  The “smart leadership” should have foreseen this image blow even when problems with Rio started. (And after all they were warned - swallow the summer, you will have problems with the winter). “Reasonable leadership” even then had to take all the “necessary measures”. “Reasonable leadership” should see right now that if we participate in their rules the image hit will be multiplied ... The conclusion is that either the leadership is not reasonable or their real goal setting is very different from the declared one.
                  1. Mestny
                    Mestny 7 December 2017 04: 10 New
                    0
                    And in politics and government, it’s always like that - the real goal-setting is very different from the declared one. Because those who carry out this very goal-setting rely on a completely different amount of information than those for whom they later state. As a result, for many it turns out to be a discovery that their own view of the world is not at all what they really are, and not quite as they were told by politicians and leaders.
                    The goal is incomprehensible to them. As a result, there are jumps on the forums with wild hysteria and a spray of saliva about "putinsil."
                    Typically, adults rarely do this. Most of them, as it does not seem strange to teenagers, for the most part guess that life is the art of what is possible in specific circumstances, and that anything can be done only in computer games and in movies about superheroes for teenagers.
                    Here, one comrade wrote above about "Stalinism", obviously possessing knowledge from the school history course.
                    - And let's fucking !, - and let's block the pipe, - and let's ...
                    Let's.
                    Let's stop giving advice to people more competent than you and me, no matter how absurd their actions may seem.
                    And yes, of course, the statements that it, the government and Putin personally owe us or should not from our bell tower look no less funny.
                    I imagine if Comrade Stalin mentioned above would take into account the opinion of progressive omnipotent people at a time when the Germans were already near Moscow.
                    1. Andkor1962
                      Andkor1962 7 December 2017 05: 54 New
                      +2
                      I am 56 years old. And what, PITINNESLIL?
                      1. stivev
                        stivev 7 December 2017 10: 15 New
                        0
                        At that age, it's time to get smarter
                    2. vinschu
                      vinschu 7 December 2017 06: 13 New
                      +1
                      It certainly can be so. The main goals of the "upper people" would still know. When cattle are brought to a slaughterhouse he is not very worried.
      3. Lyuba1965_01
        Lyuba1965_01 7 December 2017 08: 38 New
        0
        Apparently, you read his statement about this very inattentively. He made it clear that the Russian national team is not going, but it’s not forbidden to go alone. Thus, there is no formal boycott of the UI (after all, in the case of a boycott by any country it will be suspended for 2 games ) .In addition, he clearly hinted to the athletes and bureaucrats from the Olympic Games that he perfectly understands all this fuss. That, despite the fierce doping control of those from Russia who will go there, anyway they will quarrel and lose their medals after some time .so let the loners think well before poking around there.
    6. Orionvit
      Orionvit 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
      +9
      Quote: skeptic31
      There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules.

      There is another saying - "in a game without rules, invent your own rules." Maybe it’s time to bend the west on a large scale, can’t we really find weaknesses?
      1. shvn
        shvn 6 December 2017 21: 16 New
        +5
        Do not bend, because all "bendors" are completely dependent on the "bend"
    7. Svarog
      Svarog 6 December 2017 19: 07 New
      22
      Something tells me that the shame will continue with the World Cup, spent the money, arranged the stadiums and mustache ..
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 6 December 2017 19: 30 New
        13
        The most interesting thing is, what will our football players do in this World Cup? Ceiling - get to the quarter finals.
        1. DMoroz
          DMoroz 6 December 2017 23: 31 New
          +2
          Talk is already underway that the 2018 World Cup will be held in Russia, but without the participation of the Russian team
          The Russian national football team may be suspended from participation in the home world championship. At least, such a proposal was recently made by the head of the Institute of National Anti-Doping Agencies (iNADO) Joseph de Pensie. “Any international competition can continue without any country,” said the sports functionary. In addition, he added that he “sees no difficulty” with the removal of the Russian national team. “I admit it is hard to imagine in practice, but why not?” Said De Pensier. He explained the following about the reasons for the need to remove Russian football players.
          According to the head of iNADO, FIFA should remove the Russian team from participating in the 2018 World Cup if it is proved that the players are involved in the “state doping system”. De Pencier is sure that the International Football Federation needs to urgently start an investigation about doping in football of the Russian Federation, because otherwise, with the 2018 World Cup “there is a big problem”.
          Source: tsargrad.tv
      2. Sergey53
        Sergey53 6 December 2017 20: 22 New
        +4
        But did anyone stop there? If they have a handicap then they will use it. Why should they lose their position.
      3. Kent0001
        Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 48 New
        +1
        Already this cannot be ruled out ... or is today's deflection so that the 2018 World Cup is not taken away?
        1. Puma
          Puma 7 December 2017 03: 18 New
          +1
          Just deflection increases the likelihood that they will be taken away.
    8. Tusv
      Tusv 6 December 2017 19: 08 New
      13
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules.

      As in the USSR: voiced the speech of the Secretary General? But like this
      "In conclusion, Vladimir Vladimirovich noted that the athlete must understand who raised him and which country."
      So, the author somehow very frivolously wrote the last paragraph
    9. siberalt
      siberalt 6 December 2017 19: 28 New
      +7
      Today, December 6, Shoigu reported to Putin about the complete defeat of the Islamic State in Syria. For victory! drinks
      1. stas
        stas 6 December 2017 19: 37 New
        29
        Today, the Tsar declared that he remains the Tsar for a new term and caved in under the IOC.

        Glory to the Tsar, now you can push the medal and the homeland aside.
        All for the election of the Tsar for a new term.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 38 New
          +3
          Quote: stas
          Today, the Tsar declared that he remains the Tsar for a new term and caved in under the IOC.

          This is not a royal matter - to deal with the IOC. The main thing is not to lose the war.
        2. AVGUST
          AVGUST 7 December 2017 07: 58 New
          0
          Do not jerk and be more constructive in your statements
      2. Kent0001
        Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 51 New
        +1
        Oh oh Or is it like in the USSR, good news by the time the candidate is nominated?
        1. Mestny
          Mestny 7 December 2017 04: 18 New
          0
          No, it’s like in the USA - pour all the slops immediately by the time the candidate is nominated.
          And yes, what was wrong with the good news in the USSR?
          Or do you need to write only bad news?
    10. NEXUS
      NEXUS 6 December 2017 19: 31 New
      32
      Quote: skeptic31
      What a disgrace.

      Russian authorities will not impede the participation of Russian athletes in the 2018 Olympic Games in Pyeongchang, ready to perform under a neutral flag.

      THAT'S ALL! Words about the greatness of the nation, victories, self-esteem ... all in the toilet.
      Perform under the flag of CAPITULATION ... hmm ... His father who fought in a coffin is now turning over.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 6 December 2017 19: 57 New
        +1
        Isinbayeva appealed to athletes not to boycott the Olympics. Elena motivated this by the fact that our athletes will be announced that they are Russian and will know all this by the color of their uniforms. If this were possible at the last Olympics, she would also have agreed to speak.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 December 2017 20: 01 New
          17
          Quote: siberalt
          Isinbayeva appealed to the athlete with a call not to boycott the Olympics. Elena motivated this by the fact that our athletes will be announced that they are Russian and will know all this by the color of their uniforms. If this were possible at the last Olympics, she would also have agreed to speak, she added.

          I don’t give a damn ... under the white flag, it’s not our athletes who are performing, but our country in general. AND I UNDER THIS WHITE FLAG WILL NEVER. FUCK THEM, NOT CAPITULATION!
          My flag is this ..

          the meaning of the colors of the flag of Russia: white means peace, purity, purity, perfection; blue - the color of faith and fidelity, constancy; red color symbolizes energy, strength, blood shed for the Fatherland.
          1. sxfRipper
            sxfRipper 6 December 2017 20: 30 New
            +6
            This is the presidential standard, not the flag of Russia. I agree with everything else.
      2. Tusv
        Tusv 6 December 2017 20: 29 New
        +3
        Quote: NEXUS
        THAT'S ALL! Words about the greatness of the nation, victories, self-esteem ... all in the toilet.
        Perform under the flag of CAPITULATION ... hmm ... His father who fought in a coffin is now turning over

        Andrew. I don’t like this story myself, but honestly. Drive in the mountains, swim at a speed behind a shell and then, at a speed, return it where it was taken, endure endless injuries and sprains. Be able to recover quickly. Well, how to ban perform at the main start? I still "sunbathed" at the Olympic base of the Soviet Union.
        And count, my niece, the Mogul Champion of Russia among juniors and my brother forbade performing because the teammate broke her finger. Do you know how she wept? Every night, he says that he dreams, like going down, like jumping.
        Further. We won the last Games, just under the Olympic flag (without a victory in the hockey tournament, the winter Olympic Games were not won). Then there was a tragedy, now we need to turn it into a farce. We are obliged to drive a nail into the lid of the coffin of the IOC. Hockey tournament without the KHL. OI are neutered and let them rejoice, smile and wave the Russian tricolor. And athletes should not be allowed because the Sofa experts so want, who after the competition did not run up the stairs, because everything hurts and you need to walk at least somehow. This is nonsense of a selfish hi
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 December 2017 20: 38 New
          16
          Quote: Tusv
          This is nonsense of a selfish

          Selfishness has nothing to do with it, Vladimir. This humiliation is not of athletes, but of the whole country. What nafig white flag? And tomorrow they’ll say that instead of a flag, they’ll appear under someone’s family shorts ... and snag it again? It is clear that it hurts our athletes. All my life I’ve been preparing and now this ... but I'm sorry, but where are the adequate steps of the Guarantor to protect our rights and dignity? Can you tell me?
          Today, he, coupled with all this rabble, the IOC spat in the soul, calling to become the white flag. I myself am a sportsman in the past (a master of sports in chess) ... but I would not go to this public humiliation. And I won’t stand under this flag, forgive me. (And to root for my guys, who are flying the white flag, this is to become under this very flag). And this is not for me. I will stop respecting myself.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 6 December 2017 21: 03 New
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            And tomorrow they’ll say that instead of a flag, they’ll appear under someone’s family shorts ... and snag it again? It is clear that it hurts our athletes. All my life I’ve been preparing and now this ... but I'm sorry, but where are the adequate steps of the Guarantor to protect our rights and dignity? Can you tell me?

            Personally, from principle, I will wave the imperial flag and sing "God save the king, Strong, Sovereign," which I advise our athletes to sing. Troll Mok, so troll to the fullest. And so my position is, I’ll voice it again. Prescribe in the Criminal Code the item “E” in the article Terrorism for Bach and his nobles, with Rodchenko everything is clear - Kashchenko’s life. And the ban on KHL players to compete in the Olympics. Fortunately, the Russian Olympic team won the pre-Olympic tournament. That will be enough for me. And the Boys and Girls will calmly perform and the IOC will not get sickly hi
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 December 2017 21: 12 New
              +6
              Quote: Tusv
              That will be enough for me.

              But I don’t ... excuse me ..
              You can escape from the enemy, but you cannot escape from shameful glory.
              1. Tusv
                Tusv 6 December 2017 21: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                But I don’t ... excuse me ..

                What to excuse then. That's your opinion. I have no right to disrespect. Athletes have something else. But I don’t care where the adversary accepts a fierce death. On a pitchfork, like 1812, from a nuclear weapon or as described, the main thing is that it should be plentifully blood hi
                And for this you need to know your trick, how to suddenly produce it and finally with the other hand hi
          2. Alf
            Alf 6 December 2017 22: 02 New
            +6
            Quote: NEXUS
            and where are the adequate steps of the Guarantor to protect our rights and dignity?

            He has already admitted that we ourselves are to blame.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 6 December 2017 22: 22 New
              0
              Quote: Alf
              He has already admitted that we ourselves are to blame.

              Again, the main slogan of the Athlete, - Not Won means lost, That is, he did not endure in training. And the fact that we ourselves are to blame is like no reason at all. Americans are more afraid than Us. Next on the list is Isil, Mossad. and finally Ebola. We are the fifth in fears in the "golden" billion.
              But! Russia is strong in tolerance. It’s necessary to carefully explain that “Zolotar” is such a profession that deals with a very smelly business - this is the business of Poland and other Baltic tigroffs hi
          3. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 6 December 2017 23: 16 New
            +6
            Quote: NEXUS
            And tomorrow they’ll say that instead of a flag, they’ll appear under someone’s family shorts ... and snag it again?
            Under the used condom will offer to speak. The logical ending for the "neutral" athletes and the "tolerant" state.
      3. Giants
        Giants 6 December 2017 21: 14 New
        11
        NEXUS Today, 19:31 ↑

        THAT'S ALL! Words about the greatness of the nation, victories, self-esteem ... all in the toilet.
        Perform under the flag of CAPITULATION ... hmm ... His father who fought in a coffin is now turning over.
        What a father ?! Here we are talking about how to justify the trust of the owners, that is, sorry, partners.
    11. gridasov
      gridasov 6 December 2017 19: 34 New
      +2
      People are not afraid of the past or even the present, because it is an instant, but the future is frightening them. Therefore, look from the future and imagine what people will say later if Putin and others make a decision. Therefore, personally, I can definitely say that very cautious decisions of the president only strengthen the authority and understanding of his wisdom
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 40 New
        14
        what will people say
        from the future they will also say about him that they are now talking about Yeltsin. Then many were happy that they had finally made friends with America.
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 39 New
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          from the future they will also say about him that they are now talking about Yeltsin.

          Our descendants will say about Yeltsin that he kept the country from collapse.
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 6 December 2017 20: 45 New
            +7
            Our descendants will say about Yeltsin that he kept the country from collapse.
            Maybe. Kolya is sorry for the peaceful Germans, who were destroyed by the NKVD tyrant Stalin.
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Gardamir
              Kolya is sorry for the peaceful Germans, who were destroyed by the NKVD tyrant Stalin.

              I don’t know who there was a pity for the stake, but in the nineties our country was really on the verge of collapse.
          2. vinschu
            vinschu 7 December 2017 06: 19 New
            0
            Soviet Union?
            1. KaPToC
              KaPToC 7 December 2017 20: 36 New
              0
              Quote: vinschu
              Soviet Union?

              Russian Federation.
      2. stas
        stas 6 December 2017 20: 11 New
        11
        So we look from the future at Humpback and EBN whose affairs Putin continues.
        Hunchback and EBN were also protected by the hangers-on and licked to shine.
        Watch sickening of the future, deceived us to the fullest. And the modern Tsar is not a fact that the Eagle will look.
      3. Alf
        Alf 6 December 2017 22: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: gridasov
        that very cautious decisions of the president only strengthen the authority and understanding of his wisdom

        Add-Among his friends.
    12. ser-pov
      ser-pov 6 December 2017 19: 46 New
      20
      It is disgusting and embarrassing to the toothlessness of our leadership! Ofi.get - “we are still to blame” ... In principle, Putin said everything with this phrase ... sad
    13. SOF
      SOF 6 December 2017 20: 00 New
      +6
      Well .............
      To sum up:
      All that they wanted, Western creatures, in front of an elected company, they achieved.
      Enough ocean shit to read in this thread.
      HELPFUL YOU ALL !!!!
      Well, it’s still weak to push that the supreme GUILTY is that Crimea took the Ukrina away because of what we were cut off the Olympics and ????
      Well .... let's .... who is the most, the most truth-teller!


      Ugh on you .... Even the raspberry thieves in the Great Patriotic War did not allow themselves to wave the enemy like that.
      1. ando_bor
        ando_bor 6 December 2017 21: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: SOF
        HELPFUL YOU ALL !!!!

        It should be understood that the total war is underway against Russia, and a good half of commentators, and in this topic more than the State Deputies mercenaries, are our brothers who work with them. Of course, they don’t scream to Ukraine, but they even manage to whine positive news, then wait for such a topic.
      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 6 December 2017 22: 07 New
        +6
        Quote: SOF
        that the supreme GUILTY is that Crimea took away from urkainy because of what we were cut off the Olympics and ????

        Already had, someone pulled today about it. yes Shit boils in the evening, it is understandable. Not everyone can resist, so as not to blurt out hot (and someone intentionally), but then, as they say, shouting at the lobby? By the way, time is still rampant - both before the Sabbath in the form of UI, and before the election. By the way, this turbidity will not be reflected in the elections in any way, because the passions have already subsided. As for these XXX games, they still need to take place, yeah. After all, someone has Pyeongchang-2018, and someone has Hwason-15.
      3. Tusv
        Tusv 6 December 2017 22: 08 New
        +2
        Quote: SOF
        All that they wanted, Western creatures, in front of an elected company, they achieved.

        Yes of course. In a nightmare, he dreamed of Vladimir Vladimirovich in his fourth term and wiped bloody sweat. Well it lope they still put up with GDP? Horror. They changed the diaper there, but they defeated the pitotse five hundred times. Yeah
      4. Alf
        Alf 6 December 2017 22: 09 New
        +8
        Quote: SOF
        Well, it’s still weak to push that the supreme GUILTY is that Crimea took the Ukrina away because of what we were cut off the Olympics and ????

        Crimea was squeezed out for one simple reason - the Americans honestly stated that their bases would be there, and the time of arrival would be such that no one in the non-rubber would have time to get away. After which the second step will be taken, the forced dismissal of the guarantor from work. And it’s not at all a passionate love for Crimeans and pain for them.
        1. SOF
          SOF 6 December 2017 22: 16 New
          +1
          ... under article 33 of the dismissal?
          But it’s only, upon the fact of the Crimean and Syrian operations, it turned out that the Supreme has his own personnel department, and moreover, much more effective.
          wassat
          Yes Yes Yes...
          good burn more!
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 6 December 2017 23: 17 New
            +1
            Article 33 dismissal?

            Yeah. Point "Ge" - a systematic booze at work. So be forgiven by the IOC to a minimum laughing But damn eftanasia is prohibited in us am
      5. q75agent
        q75agent 6 December 2017 22: 48 New
        +4
        and so they consider only 5 ro, but in the remaining comments it is clear that people are worried about the country for the country and for what they are doing and who does it, the Crimea is not in dispute, that's right .... and the Su-24 (tomatoes) are ambassadors with Obama .... consulates, flags, and so on, but about the raspberry thieves in WWII there were all sorts of .....
      6. 34 region
        34 region 7 December 2017 01: 22 New
        +1
        SOF, 20 p.m. Crimea from Ukraine took away ?! Or changed the Crimea to the outskirts? Or surrendered the outskirts of the Americans? How is it that Russia is being squeezed since the days of Gorbachev? Does Gorbachev’s business live and flourish? How is it that under the wise Tsar, our former union republics and social block partners are moving away from Russia towards the West? To summarize the battle. They have no way back. We will close the bridge by ourselves!
    14. Kent0001
      Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 25 New
      18
      He actually admitted all the accusations against us .... honestly, I'm shocked.
    15. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 6 December 2017 20: 44 New
      19
      I agree. Completely. This is a shame for our country. We openly spat in the face, and our leaders took and wiped themselves.
      Ivan the Terrible, Peter I, Catherine II, and Comrade Stalin - turn over in a coffin. The shame and disgrace of today's Russia.
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 6 December 2017 21: 00 New
        +6

        I did not vote and I will not be for Putin.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 December 2017 21: 12 New
          +4
          Yes and no - one hell will vote for you.
        2. Seraphimamur
          Seraphimamur 7 December 2017 05: 16 New
          0
          Yes, if we choose Navalny, all athletes will travel to the Olympics without any problems.
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 7 December 2017 11: 25 New
            +1
            But why immediately drag the Anal. There is Zhirik and someone there from the Communist Party — that’s what I’ll be for one of them.
    16. GradusHuK
      GradusHuK 6 December 2017 21: 05 New
      +2
      skeptic31 Today, 18:51 For the Motherland! For Stalin! For the whole ballot from me.
    17. Seraphimamur
      Seraphimamur 7 December 2017 05: 13 New
      +1
      Everything is correct if you reason with everyday categories. However, the Olympics and sports, like any show business in general, are a lot of money that someone needs to learn. And where there is money, conscience, pride and other moral concepts do not work. To humiliate yourself, to humiliate the country that nurtured you or not, this should be decided by each individual athlete.
    18. Lycan
      Lycan 7 December 2017 10: 07 New
      0
      So what - ban to your athletes?
      This is a personal matter for everyone. For example, under the USSR they would have sold a "joint protest." And now - try selling - you will come across as the authorizer of the authoritarianism.
      And so - a completely mature approach: those who “don't care” about the “contempt” of the adversary about the attributes of the country take part, and whoever is principled has the right to refuse. Democracy, however, does not infringe anyone.
  2. 210ox
    210ox 6 December 2017 18: 53 New
    +8
    Well, it was necessary to act two years ago! And not on the fact of what happened, although this was known in advance.
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 6 December 2017 19: 05 New
      10
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, it was necessary to act two years ago! And not on the fact of what happened, although this was known in advance.

      Everything was clear for a long time and dragged to the last these WADA and IOC to the last, and Russian officials, as always thought, maybe they dare not.
    2. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 6 December 2017 19: 27 New
      11
      Quote: 210ox
      And not after the fact, although it was known in advance.

      Nothing was known in advance ....
      And only when he began to take away medals and disqualify our athletes for life, it became clear that the Olympics in Korea hung in the air. Moreover, this was done right next to the decision of the IOC on the participation of the Russian team in Pyeongchang.
      There is a chance that such a violation of the presumption of innocence in a doping scandal will be challenged in court. But who will say that CAS in Lausanne is not a branch of WADA?
      The whole process of defamation and humiliation began when Judah from RUSADA was given free rein and allowed to "sail" abroad. And now it’s too late to break spears and wring hands, they say, Green - insane. He was destined for the victim of "bloody Putin's gebni", and all his visible and subtle deviations from the norm would be interpreted in his favor - he could not bear, unhappy, the pressure of the Russian leadership, tortured by their demands "to give a result."
      Those. a filmets in 3's parts from the "independent" German Russophobe from journalism appeared on order, and most importantly - on time.
    3. Nikolai Grek
      Nikolai Grek 6 December 2017 22: 02 New
      +3
      Quote: 210ox
      Well, it was necessary to act two years ago! And not on the fact of what happened, although this was known in advance.

      Legkov has only recently been given a motivation for his disqualification !!! are there really no brains in order to understand that, in time, everything has been specially adjusted so specially ??? wassat wassat wassat Of course, it is clear that only you are all smart here, and Putin is to blame for everything, but nevertheless ..... !!! wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
      1. Puma
        Puma 7 December 2017 03: 46 New
        0
        Naturally, specially adjusted in time. They know what they are doing and why. Unlike us. Is there really something missing to understand that it was necessary to PREPARE for such a development of events. And preparing seriously. And we have something like Rodchenkov — even the German magazine journalist is alive and well and very well-fed. In the end, in the country, did the ice axes end?
  3. Rostislav
    Rostislav 6 December 2017 18: 53 New
    52
    Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.
    1. Mih1974
      Mih1974 6 December 2017 18: 56 New
      +7
      Remarkable words of Churchill. Just our case.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 44 New
        +2
        Quote: Mih1974
        Rostislav

        Quote: Mih1974
        Mih1974

        Learn Russian our non-Russian friends, the "Olympics" and "war" are not synonyms.
        It would be a shame if our government now began to make extra body movements, giving this mouse fuss around the Olympics extra weight. And so our guarantor sent everyone to Xren, only politely.
        PySy Now if in Syria they lost for the sake of the Olympics (and there were precedents) then it would be a shame.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 6 December 2017 21: 08 New
          11
          Quote: KaPToC
          And so our guarantor sent everyone to Xren, only politely.

          Including all his people, including his warring father.
          It is shameful to be a slave if it is slavery ... voluntary.
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 6 December 2017 21: 20 New
            +3
            Quote: NEXUS
            Including all his people, including his warring father.

            How much pathos, and this is just an olympiad, here they didn’t participate in Eurovision and, again, it didn’t get any worse. Millions of Russians don’t give a damn about the Olympics, I didn’t look at the previous ones and I won’t look at this and nothing will change from the absence or presence of our team.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 6 December 2017 21: 25 New
              +5
              Quote: KaPToC
              How much pathos, but this is just an Olympics,

              Seriously? Victories at the Olympics clearly show how developed the country is and how much time it devotes to the health of the nation in general. If everyone wouldn’t give a damn, dear, it wouldn’t matter how many medals we take at the Olympics. Although like the Cameroon team at the Winter Olympics ...
              Victory at the Olympics is an indicator of the development and health of the nation.
              Do you care? So this is your attitude towards the life of your country .... what can I say?
              1. KaPToC
                KaPToC 6 December 2017 22: 18 New
                +6
                Quote: NEXUS
                Seriously? Victories at the Olympics clearly show how developed the country is, and how much time it devotes to the health of the nation in general.

                Quote: NEXUS
                Victory at the Olympics is an indicator of the development and health of the nation.

                You are absolutely wrong. Sports of high achievements and the health of the nation are at the opposite poles. Sports victories show how developed the production of combat stimulants is in the country.
                Quote: NEXUS
                Do you care? So this is your attitude towards the life of your country .... what can I say?

                Professional sport is an entertainment industry, it doesn’t show or improve anything in the country.
        2. Alf
          Alf 6 December 2017 22: 10 New
          10
          Quote: KaPToC
          And so our guarantor sent everyone to Xren, only politely.

          Whom did he send? He sent us, ordinary Russian people.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 7 December 2017 04: 23 New
            -1
            So go on. What are you jumping under the red flags?
            Here I am, an ordinary Russian man. Nobody sent me anywhere.
          2. stivev
            stivev 7 December 2017 10: 44 New
            0
            Maybe he sent you, but not me
    2. 210ox
      210ox 6 December 2017 18: 57 New
      19
      And she, this war will be permanent. If we behave like that on the international scene .. Give a hand to those who spit at her, Smile to those whose ancestors shot in the back to our fathers and grandfathers ...
      Quote: Rostislav
      Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.
    3. Krabik
      Krabik 6 December 2017 18: 59 New
      +9
      Whoever tries to fence off the criminal and drug addict by any means is the criminal and drug addict himself!
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 6 December 2017 19: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Rostislav
        Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.

        And let's not tear your hair ahead of time.
        Just do not forget that the main team played at the Karel Cup, and somewhere there, at the same time, the Russian Olympic hockey team. In general, the ban on the performance of KHL hockey players still hangs with the Domocle Sword over the IOC.
        1. Kent0001
          Kent0001 6 December 2017 20: 59 New
          +4
          Nothing hanging. They said if you do not let the players go to the Olympics, we will be promoted to the 2018 World Hockey Championship. The reaction to our inability to protect is already there, we are already spread rot in other directions.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 6 December 2017 21: 12 New
            0
            Quote: Kent0001
            Nothing hanging. They said if you do not let the players go to the Olympics, we will be promoted to the 2018 World Hockey Championship.

            What is it like? Canada is yes, and the United States in IIHF No one can even call. Empty place. Let them talk. Neither hot nor cold
    4. poquello
      poquello 6 December 2017 19: 23 New
      +1
      Quote: Rostislav
      Those who choose shame between shame and war receive both shame and war.

      beautiful, Th and Butsk was going to fight? The Chinese even protested
  4. Twodi
    Twodi 6 December 2017 18: 55 New
    17
    In general, to declare a boycott of the OI up to the year 2024. To put things in order, the budget of the moka will also drop and the status will be different.
    1. 210ox
      210ox 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
      30
      The money that we pay to the IOC to send to children's sports schools .. And without any expenses on the "little things" like Zenith Arena ...
      Quote: Twodi
      In general, to declare a boycott of the OI up to the year 2024. To put things in order, the budget of the moka will also drop and the status will be different.
      1. Twodi
        Twodi 6 December 2017 19: 04 New
        15
        And the most interesting is that no one will bear any responsibility for this.
        1. 210ox
          210ox 6 December 2017 19: 24 New
          12
          And this is already the notorious "personnel policy of Putin" ... There are untouchables, in love!
          Quote: Twodi
          And the most interesting is that no one will bear any responsibility for this.
          1. Twodi
            Twodi 6 December 2017 20: 24 New
            16
            You know, I work for a company that services offshore oil and gas platforms. So now the crisis, projects are closing, the market is oversaturated. The company gets rid of the courts but did not fire a single office worker, and that's because only relatives are sitting in the office. And the dismissal of at least one clan war will begin)))) Although there is no sense in the benefits of many workers now ... It is the same in the state, but how to dismiss him is a relative ...
            1. 210ox
              210ox 6 December 2017 21: 28 New
              +4
              These relatives have become more stubborn than other monuments .. And you can’t move and plant ..
              Quote: Twodi
              You know, I work for a company that services offshore oil and gas platforms. So now the crisis, projects are closing, the market is oversaturated. The company gets rid of the courts but did not fire a single office worker, and that's because only relatives are sitting in the office. And the dismissal of at least one clan war will begin)))) Although there is no sense in the benefits of many workers now ... It is the same in the state, but how to dismiss him is a relative ...
      2. novel66
        novel66 6 December 2017 19: 07 New
        +8
        and be sure to throw poop those who jerk for medals under a white rag, they are Vlasov!
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 6 December 2017 19: 22 New
          20
          Quote: novel xnumx
          and be sure to throw poop those who jerk for medals under a white rag, they are Vlasov!

          They are gay people and here is their flag for the Olympics ...
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 6 December 2017 19: 41 New
            +3
            Quote: Barkhan
            They are gay people and here is their flag for the Olympics ...

            We thought that it was a fan of the Imperial Flag to wave - Black - yellow - white with a two-headed Eagle and sing "God Save the Tsar."
            Well, so that it feels better over the hill
      3. siberalt
        siberalt 6 December 2017 19: 33 New
        10
        Would it be better to find out how many of our officials feed from one participant in the Olympic Games? belay
    2. Mih1974
      Mih1974 6 December 2017 19: 01 New
      41
      It’s much more preferable to leave their OK in general, that is, to announce that OK has lost our trust and that we, as a Country, will not participate more in the Flag or money (they go to the phallus). Let them do what they want there. And it is better to spend money wasted on walking footballers in the sports section for children !! What exactly would the children grow up strong and healthy, and the fact that they won’t let us go somewhere - look at the USA, they have "their own" football "and" bast shoes "that no one else in the world is watching or participating !! And they are spinning there huge money, huge popularity in the Country and EVERYTHING is satisfied.Here is the right example for Russia as for the Country.
      PySY: to be honest - I was disappointed in Putin, and no matter how personally my voice was “small” I won’t vote for it anymore. Because he allowed to humiliate Russia like that. negative
      1. Midshipman
        Midshipman 6 December 2017 19: 24 New
        +4
        But who knows what he said? But what he will do, we will see soon;)
        1. Antianglosax
          Antianglosax 6 December 2017 19: 45 New
          +5
          Quote: Midshipman
          But who knows what he said? But what he will do, we will see soon;)

          If, as a result, not a single athlete travels from Russia, without some obvious pressure, then yes - I believe, I will take a few words back and apologize in public!
          1. Hoc vince
            Hoc vince 6 December 2017 20: 15 New
            +3
            The first Russian athlete agreed to speak at the 2018 Olympics with a neutral flag.
            Six-time Olympic short track champion Viktor An announced his readiness to take part in the 2018 Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang with a neutral flag. The Russian athlete said that he would compete if the Russian leadership did not decide on a boycott of the Olympics.
            1. Puma
              Puma 7 December 2017 03: 54 New
              +4
              Well, this bribe is smooth. He is not quite ours and has already changed the flag once.
          2. nik-karata
            nik-karata 7 December 2017 12: 15 New
            0
            [b
            ] If in the end no athlete will travel from Russia
            [/B]
            Reread, please, the article! Not a single athlete will travel from Russia. Athletes (all who wish) will go on their own, no one will represent the country (here - Russia)!
        2. Alf
          Alf 6 December 2017 22: 12 New
          +5
          Quote: Midshipman
          But who knows what he said? But what he will do, we will see soon;)

          Yes, yes, another apologist for HPP.
          1. Mestny
            Mestny 7 December 2017 04: 28 New
            -1
            I will reveal a terrible secret. Absolutely all constantly make up various plans. Some are tricky, some are not.
            Is Putin an exception, and has no plans? Share the information.
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 6 December 2017 19: 28 New
        24
        Quote: Mih1974
        PySY: to be honest - I was disappointed in Putin, and no matter how personally my voice was “small” I won’t vote for it anymore. Because he allowed to humiliate Russia like that.

        Until recently, I thought that he would stand up for his homeland, but no ... he is not a patriot, he is a liberal. And his friends are liberals and oligarchs. Not only will I not vote for him, I will also agitate 50 people who do not care for anyone. what he did in the army is called to pull the brain even more so before the election. And if the Westerners win in Russia, then you have to drink poison in The Hague ... not to sit on three chairs.
        1. albert
          albert 6 December 2017 19: 53 New
          12
          Quote: Barkhan
          , then you have to drink poison in The Hague ... do not sit on three chairs.

          With his throwing between these chairs, Putin will completely wrap liberals against himself and push patriots away without any support.
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 6 December 2017 20: 07 New
            26
            Quote: albert
            Quote: Barkhan
            , then you have to drink poison in The Hague ... do not sit on three chairs.

            With his throwing between these chairs, Putin will completely wrap liberals against himself and push patriots away without any support.

            After his speech, he ran through patriotic sites and discussions of caring .... 70 percent of the comments ... hell to him, not a vote in the election. Who needs spineless and weak-willed leaders who spit on the opinion of the people. And the opinion of the people in 95 percent is a boycott. Three years ago, Putin was my president. Two years ago he began to doubt. Now I think he has nothing more to do in the Kremlin, he shaved that right ...Better a jester Zhirinovsky or a brake Zyuganov ...
            1. SOF
              SOF 6 December 2017 21: 02 New
              +1
              Quote: Barkhan
              . Better a jester Zhirinovsky or a brake Zyuganov ...

              I can directly see how the cattle of the relatives and the entire shushera of the Shtatovskaya rubbing their hands while reading your pearls. Patriots, damn it .............
              And what, bucks chrenolion in bulk drenched and even less damage, in the info war, inflict more than the stench from jars of urine ........
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 6 December 2017 21: 18 New
                15
                Quote: SOF
                reading your pearls. Patriots, damn it

                That is, my words and the words of 90% of writers also harm the country? Is Putin’s deflection useful, or what? And, what are these words “we are a little guilty”? This, who, we? It’s his fault. And his ministers. And I never said that I’m a patriot of Putin. I’m a patriot of Russia. The only what Putin did good for all the years of power, he returned the Crimea. Everything else was a shit. How much money was withdrawn abroad during the years of his rule? You take an interest. And in the end, by law, the president can be in power only two terms. He’s already out the law.
              2. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 6 December 2017 21: 32 New
                10
                Quote: SOF
                I can directly see how the cattle of the relatives and the entire shushera of the Shtatovskaya rubbing their hands while reading your pearls. Patriots, damn it .............

                Here is another answer to your words.
                1. SOF
                  SOF 6 December 2017 21: 59 New
                  +1
                  Bullshit. You do not realize that someone is rubbing this rubbish under the lid of the skull box not just folding it, but already pushing it stubbornly .... Vibrations are not felt ?????
                  Who is the main beneficiary of all this shit? You or someone overseas?
                  Two terms? Read the latest history and constitution until 2012 in the “maybe two terms” section.
                  Who is sleeping and seeing that the Russians will not come at all? Phelpses, Fourcades, Williams brothers. Only they could come in spite, although the nobleman replied to us. There is no question about this. Are we offended? Yes, they carry water offended. What did Rodchenkov say on Twitter? "I will bury Russian sport for five years." So help him ?????
                  And to tear off specialists from sports who lost the flash after Rio de Janeiro is the holy duty of the authorities. Nobody argues with this.
                  1. Paranoid50
                    Paranoid50 6 December 2017 22: 30 New
                    +8
                    Quote: SOF
                    What did Rodchenkov say on Twitter? I will bury Russian sport for five years.

                    Yes, to hell with him, a schizophrenic. That's all, he is no longer interested in mattresses (never Snowden). Even his lawyer said that the hacker will now have to walk and look around until the end of the days (I hope that soon). Here the thing is different: all world sport is decaying, turning into a gesheft (commercial or political), for the implementation of which all means are good. And so around the world, and our pressanuli, for, just coincided. And it would be on the drum, as before other sanctions, but there is a moment ... That's just frankly - can you imagine our hockey team on a pedestal, but without an anthem and a flag? I do not have to answer, try to answer this question yourself.
                    Pa.S. May Kim help us. yes
                    1. SOF
                      SOF 6 December 2017 23: 25 New
                      +2
                      You can imagine our national hockey team on a pedestal, but without HYMN and FLAG

                      Fair.,? I can not. Some wildness. That's because they spoiled the pitch.
                      One hope is that if they nevertheless climb into it, and even make the goat’s face in the final, then they will have enough normal Russian dope t-shirts with tricolor and eagles, pull them before rewarding, send everyone away and .... to the friendly accompaniment of the fans (and they simply cannot help but be there) roll them "Sacred Russia / Unbreakable Union" !!! And then, be it what will be, chest in crosses or head in bushes .....
                      1. Puma
                        Puma 7 December 2017 04: 05 New
                        0
                        By this, they will just bury the scenario for which the party and the government are praying - that the IOC will keep the promise and withdraw the disqualification from our committee on the day the games are closed. It’s easier not to go right away.
                  2. AshiSolo
                    AshiSolo 6 December 2017 22: 48 New
                    +4
                    To bury Russian sport and refuse to participate in the Olympic Games are two different things. The tank biathlon of norms got to his feet, an excellent sport.
                    And it wasn’t the IOC who slapped the slap in the face ... Their very savory was weighed. It’s stupid to talk about patriotism and "we will still show everyone, only you don’t know how!" You are the head of the family - it's up to you. And then also explain why. And when you blurt out “I want so” without explanation, they can recognize and start sharing your hut without you as an old psycho.
            2. Mestny
              Mestny 7 December 2017 04: 32 New
              -1
              Well, you see, there’s nothing to worry about. The victory of your mastermind is already in your pocket.
              Until the victory of freedom and democracy, a little remains.
              And then it will come, the long-awaited happiness.
              And then we will talk with you, if there is an opportunity of course.
              Tell us a story from the cycle “I don’t know why it happened”
          2. Tusv
            Tusv 6 December 2017 21: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: albert
            Putin will throw liberals against himself by throwing them between these chairs and push the patriots away, without any support

            During the reign of Vladimir Vladimirovich, have you ever heard or seen quick decisions from GDP? So I have never. He will take revenge on the "unreasonable Khozars", irrevocably and mercilessly, otherwise I will not vote am
      3. Lexus
        Lexus 6 December 2017 20: 37 New
        +4
        Quote: Mih1974

        PySY: to be honest - I was disappointed in Putin, and no matter how personally my voice was “small” I won’t vote for it anymore. Because he allowed to humiliate Russia like that. negative

        In Skolkovo and on Seliger, the "carousel" will launch. In an extreme case, will release this character from the bench ...
      4. passerby5
        passerby5 6 December 2017 20: 56 New
        +1
        support .... also somehow disappointed
    3. Alexsin
      Alexsin 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
      +6
      Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI? Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them? Or maybe let the athletes do without sofa advisers and decide for themselves what they should do, as the president says about this?
      1. You Vlad
        You Vlad 6 December 2017 19: 17 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexsin
        Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI? Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them?

        How the olympiad was stolen from our country (Well, for this, well, for too independent politics), well, athletes have nothing to do with it request Many of them went to this Olympics at the peak of their form for half their lives! And blame the GDP for allowing it fellow We should rejoice, as it is, so to speak, a quality mark for the work done by the GDP, issued by the West to change something from impotence.
      2. 210ox
        210ox 6 December 2017 19: 28 New
        +9
        It is only advisable for those athletes who do not go to be awarded the State Prize with a subsequent appointment at the end of a career in public administration of Russian Sports!
        Quote: Alexsin
        Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI? Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them? Or maybe let the athletes do without sofa advisers and decide for themselves what they should do, as the president says about this?
      3. brick
        brick 6 December 2017 19: 32 New
        40
        But what about the best years spent by a miner in a mine, or a steelworker in a steel mill, and finally an officer and soldier in the army. Sport has long gone into business. And before that, the athlete began to imagine something of himself, the state “drove” a lot of money into it. And now that you are unhappy, they were preparing ... But doesn’t the hand tremble to receive millions of bonuses from the state for medals? I
      4. Felix
        Felix 6 December 2017 19: 42 New
        21
        Excuse me .... And whose athletes trained at what expense and on what infrastructure did they achieve results? If you really want to speak on behalf of the white flag, then let it be at your own expense.
      5. Esoteric
        Esoteric 6 December 2017 19: 55 New
        35
        Quote: Alexsin
        Are you an athlete? Spent the best years of your life for training and preparing for JI?

        Listen, you athlete. I am a former military man and did not swear allegiance to EBN. And he did not dress in the American form, although it was at one time more convenient than our field. And at the parades and parade ground in our regiment, they did not raise a white flag ... I gave all my service to the armed forces and did not whine that some greasy face that had become an "effective manager" receives all my pension benefits for the day, which I can earn in the long run ... Their (athletes) business is to decide who they are with and what is more expensive for them. And the president ... He is the president today, and tomorrow, if he will provide our guarantees, he can be a simple pensioner, like a HMS, who will not care, like a coward and a traitor. We live on our means, like cheese in oil, we don’t skate, and here he raises arguments about the right of a citizen to love his homeland in sorrow and joy. He raised a generation of "patriots" lives in London and sends us warm greetings. Traitors go abroad, money from Russia goes to “offshore” ... What little mongrel doesn’t consider it his right to yap in our direction, and he will decide, himself, without “couch advisers” ... And who are his advisers? Sand? Sechin? Rogozin? Mutko with Zhukov? Seal your jingoistic radio and listen to what the elders say ...
      6. Winnie76
        Winnie76 6 December 2017 21: 20 New
        +6
        Quote: Alexsin
        Or did you just decide that you have the right to decide what to do for the athletes, go to the Olympics or boycott them?

        Athletes ate / lived / trained for the money of the country - the country decides to go or not to go. And by the way, if you are a supporter of the trip, will you pay 15 million from your pocket? Or, again, the whole country must chip in.
      7. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 7 December 2017 06: 35 New
        +1
        what is it with? athletes galaxy citizens? Well, let's decide everything ourselves .... scientists, doctors, teachers, military. they are the same no matter how they studied, worked,
    4. your1970
      your1970 6 December 2017 19: 11 New
      +1
      a country inciting a boycott by an automatic machine for 2 periods of suspension - that is, until 2026
      1. 210ox
        210ox 6 December 2017 19: 26 New
        13
        Well, the IOC machine would have remained without injections ..
        Quote: your1970
        a country inciting a boycott by an automatic machine for 2 periods of suspension - that is, until 2026
      2. Felix
        Felix 6 December 2017 20: 34 New
        +9
        Quote: your1970
        a country inciting a boycott by an automatic machine for 2 periods of suspension - that is, until 2026

        Inciting other countries. Who can forbid us to boycott this coven? Say, with the wording "until the Olympic movement is fully recovered or until it is abolished."
      3. Skarpzd
        Skarpzd 7 December 2017 06: 36 New
        +1
        Is there any certainty that they will not require Russia to go out with panties on its head for the next Olympiad? and what? with them will not? I'm somehow not sure
  5. mark_rod
    mark_rod 6 December 2017 18: 55 New
    38
    Firstly, it must be said bluntly that we ourselves are partly to blame for this, because we gave rise to this.

    Each guilty person has a specific surname, name and patronymic! For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...
    1. Stranger03
      Stranger03 6 December 2017 18: 58 New
      +9
      Well, yes, GDP is to blame for all the troubles, isn’t it funny itself?
      1. killganoff
        killganoff 6 December 2017 19: 13 New
        46
        For your information, this V.V. Putin at the helm of the largest and richest country since 2000. What REALLY has changed for the better ?! Only the fact that on television about the government is only good or nothing, all the "achievements" are treated as victories ...
        How much can you spit in the face of your people ?! Wake up !!! Tupin leads everything according to the same plan as Yeltsin. If there are arguments to counterbalance, I wait!
        The rise of industry is one window dress !!!
        The rise of agriculture - window dressing!
        Medicine or education ??? Or the defense industry really revived - no! With Chinese and American microprocessors and other elements of microelectronics installed in our technology, we can not do anything ... Yes, we do not produce our products, this is reality !!!! Look at all the equipment in your apartments, if there is a Russian name there, then only imported filling under the body !!!
        Remember the domestic equipment "Rubin", "Record", "Vega", "Spring", "Carat", "Ishim", "Brig", "Carat", "Surf", "Electronics" ... even the Baltic "Radio Engineering" factory named after A.S. Popov! And the cars "Lada", "Volga", "The Seagull", the government "ZIL" or the automated space shuttle "BURAN" as well as other names that caused a sincere sense of pride !!!!
        What can you give as an example today ????? !!!! VAZ belonging to the Renault-Nissan concern, or the chocolate factory "Russia" which has long been sold to "Nestle" ??? And about the “Likhachev Plant” there is an excellent film: “ZIL. The Last Limousine,” please see it, the Government’s attitude to the cause of the people is very indicative.
        The watch factory “ZiM” which has not existed for a long time, as well as the best “Rocket” factory in the union now producing piece goods? .................. Wake up, people, Russians! !!!
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 December 2017 19: 42 New
          +7
          “What has changed” - Well, most importantly, since 2000, the country's GDP has increased from 13 trillion to 75 - 83 trillion in 2017, secondly, gold and foreign exchange reserves have increased, in the third they have added Crimea, metallurgy, machine building, agriculture has grown, the electronic base is the same began to create, the sun began to receive modern technology and so on.
          1. alexmach
            alexmach 6 December 2017 21: 03 New
            +5
            This is by the way not the most important thing. The country in the very first place has not yet collapsed - and as of 2000, everything was completely on its way to a further collapse. Putin undoubtedly has merits in Russia.

            Another matter is what challenges Russia is currently facing, and is its current policy fully in line with these challenges, and is Russia capable of even answering these challenges and getting out of the mess that is now brewed, if not a complete and unconditional winner, then though would be "at their own."
          2. killganoff
            killganoff 6 December 2017 22: 26 New
            +6
            Quote: Vadim237
            “What has changed” - Well, most importantly, since 2000, the country's GDP has increased from 13 trillion to 75 - 83 trillion in 2017, secondly, gold and foreign exchange reserves have increased, in the third they have added Crimea, metallurgy, machine building, agriculture has grown, the electronic base is the same began to create, the sun began to receive modern technology and so on.

            Metallurgy?! Engineering?! Agriculture?
            Which reports did you take from what sources? Such names do not tell you:
            The Moskvich Plant (AZLK) (born 1930 - was killed in 2002)
            Plant "Red Proletariat" (b. 1857 - killed 2010) (only the year of the death of the enterprise will be indicated below)
            Izhevsk Motorcycle Plant 2009, Irbit Motorcycle Plant “Ural”, Pavlovsky Tool Plant 2011, Lipetsk Tractor Plant 2009, Altai Tractor Plant 2010, Shipbuilding Plant “Avangard” (Petrozavodsk) 2010,
            Ship repair plant OJSC "HC Dalzavod" (Vladivostok) 2009,
            Radio factory PO "Vega" (Berdsk, Novosibirsk region) 2001,
            Saratov Aviation Plant 2010, Omsk Transport Engineering Plant 2009 (nominally listed, but actually destroyed, previously produced tanks with a T-80 gas turbine engine), Chelyabinsk watch factory Molniya 2009, Uglich watch factory Chaika 2009,
            Penza watch factory "Dawn" 2000, Second Moscow watch factory "Slava" 2006,
            Chistopol watch factory "Vostok" 2010, Moscow Machine-Tool Plant named after Sergo Ordzhonikidze 2007, Plant Stankomash 2009, Ryazan Machine Tool Plant 2008, Kronstadt Marine Plant, 2005,
            Kuzbasselement Plant 2008, Irkutsk Radio Receivers Plant 2007,
            Precision casting plant "Centrolit" 2009, Tomsk Instrument Plant 2007,
            Sivinit Plant (Krasnoyarsk) 2004, Krasnoyarsk TV Factory 2003, Dynamo Plant (Moscow) 2009,
            Oryol plant managing computers named. K.N. Rudnev 2006,
            Orenburg Hardware Plant (genus 1943 - killed by 2009)
            Khabarovsk plant "EVGO" (genus 2000 - killed 2009)
            Ulyanovsk Radio Tube Plant (genus 1959 - killed by 2003)
            Plant them. Kozitsky (St. Petersburg) (genus 1853 - present in a coma after being wounded)
            Sibelektrostal Plant (Krasnoyarsk) (genus 1952 - killed by 2008)
            Orenburg silk fabric factory “Orenburg Textile” (genus 1972 - killed by 2004)
            Barysh factory them. Gladysheva (Ulyanovsk Region) (genus 1825 - killed by 2005)
            Flax Association them. I.D. Zvorykina (Kostroma) (genus 1939 - killed by 2011)
            Kamyshinsky cotton mill them. Kosygina (Volgograd Region) (genus 1955 - present in a coma after being wounded)
            Trekhgornaya manufactory (Moscow) (genus 1799 - present in a coma after being wounded)
            Far Eastern Radio Plant (Komsomolsk-on-Amur) (genus 1993 - killed by 2009)
            Bicycle plant (Yoshkar-Ola) (genus 1950 - killed 2006)
            Bicycle plant (Nizhny Novgorod) (genus 1940 - killed 2007)
            Perm Bicycle Plant (genus 1939 - killed by 2006)
            Baltic Shipyard 2011
            Sibtyazhmash Plant (Krasnoyarsk) 2011
            Khimprom Plant (Volgograd) 2010
            Irkutsk driveshaft plant 2000
            Tchaikovsky Precision Engineering Plant (Perm Territory) 2000
            Izhmash Plant (Izhevsk) 2012
            The Ural Heavy Engineering Plant UZTM Uralmash is finishing off ...
            The aforementioned enterprises that went to the annals of history exclusively in the era of Tupino Russia, some are formally considered alive, but in fact they “exclusively” rent offices, etc.
            Regarding agriculture, I can do without numbers. Do you see / hear anything else in Russia besides the TV screen ?! Look what happens behind the Moscow Ring Road, the fields are empty, the farms are destroyed, the exception is the demonstration farms created for window dressing ....
            Army ... Earlier, the RF Armed Forces possessed a kalassal mobilization potential despite a weak level of combat training. At the moment, the institute of cropped units has been destroyed, we will fight by the fact that we have ... Cropped armies, regiments and divisions with headquarters and storage bases, which at the time of Ch could be equipped with reservists and deployed - no longer exist.
            As for the possible collapse at the beginning of the XNUMXs - If this had continued and Yeltsin himself had not left the throne, then the military would have dared him ... But this was not destined to happen.
            Take an interest in the fate of Lev Yakovlevich Rokhlin, early and late newspapers on this subject are especially interesting.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 6 December 2017 23: 38 New
              +3
              "Look what is happening beyond the Moscow Ring Road, the fields are empty, the farms are destroyed, the exception is indicative farms created for window dressing." Yes, yes, and we don’t have record harvests and we don’t export agricultural products and in general we are stuffed with bush legs - the economy is broken up and we are an absolute gas station in the country - I think this is exactly what happens in your parallel universe.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 6 December 2017 23: 47 New
                +3
                "Omsk Transport Engineering Plant 2009 (nominally registered, but actually destroyed, previously produced tanks with a gas turbine engine T-80" Here is his website http://transmash-omsk.ru - the plant blooms and smells as part of UVZ.
                1. cost 75
                  cost 75 7 December 2017 03: 41 New
                  0
                  you were there?
            2. Paranoid50
              Paranoid50 7 December 2017 00: 09 New
              +3
              Quote: killganoff
              Baltic Shipyard 2011

              Oh how ... belay Dead men and zombies build atomic icebreakers wassat Happenes...
              Quote: killganoff
              Look what is happening outside the Moscow Ring Road,

              What is so half of the country on the Moscow Ring Road? request Suppose we have, in the swamps, deep on the drum and on the Moscow Ring Road, and on its "inside", yeah. We have our own ring road, and ZSD to the heap. And by the way, behind our Ring Road, the same C / X is more or less growing. Without any "center" news, there are enough local and personal observations, since I live on the border of the city. And our town is small, provincial yes . In Soviet times, at the end of the era, it was called "The Great City with a regional fate." But we are not offended, no. We live for ourselves, work, and what we wish for you. hi
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 7 December 2017 00: 21 New
                +3
                “Dead men and zombies build atomic icebreakers” - In a parallel world, this is possible.
                1. Paranoid50
                  Paranoid50 7 December 2017 00: 55 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  In a parallel world, this is possible.

                  Yes, an unclear list. You can dig, some other "dead" will be resurrected. yes
            3. stivev
              stivev 7 December 2017 11: 01 New
              0
              Try to work, feel better laughing
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 December 2017 19: 55 New
          +4
          Automated Space Shuttle BURAN Unfortunately this project was a mistake, because it closed another more promising area - the creation of single-stage aerospace aircraft M 19 and Tu 2000, as well as the Bor project. At the expense of watch factories - they broke due to the fact that their products ceased to be popular - there was competition, in the new conditions it was necessary to be able to sell, foreign manufacturers pushed them all out of the market and everyone forgot about the watch industry in the 90s - and even now, few people remember.
        3. Winnie76
          Winnie76 6 December 2017 21: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: killganoff
          For your information, this V.V. Putin has been at the helm of the largest and richest country since 2000. What REALLY has changed for the better ?!

          As I recall this "rich country" of the times of Bori-drunk - I will tremble
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 6 December 2017 23: 51 New
            +2
            killganoff - Probably there in the "well-fed" 90s that he lost, he was one of the brothers along the way - "Putin is such a scoundrel, he has filled up business and thrust his friends into the jail."
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 18 New
        12
        Well, yes, GDP is to blame for all the troubles,
        you liberals everything is tolerantly divided. Putin for the Crimea, for the failures of Medvedev.
    2. Kurare
      Kurare 6 December 2017 19: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: mark_rod
      Each guilty person has a specific surname, name and patronymic! For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

      You, as the Western media put it, "Putin is omnipotent!" wink
      Firstly, this is not his job. Yes, he probably could have done something, but he is not really omnipotent.
      Secondly, work on sports matters is the work of the ministry, i.e. Minister of Sport, and therefore his immediate boss, i.e. prime minister.
      1. Esoteric
        Esoteric 6 December 2017 20: 03 New
        +9
        Quote: Kurare
        Secondly, work on sports matters is the work of the ministry, i.e. Minister of Sport, and therefore his immediate boss, i.e. prime minister.

        You, youngster, have not forgotten that "your humble galley slave" rewound the term with the Prime Minister from 2008 to 2012 ... Something during his premiership, there were no noticeable successes in the ministries. And, for your information, DAM did not come from a mushroom picker, and not Trump and Obama submitted it to the State Duma for approval ... Are you, by any chance, EdRos? And then you are all fools, and EdRo in chocolate ...
    3. stalkerwalker
      stalkerwalker 6 December 2017 19: 30 New
      +3
      All questions - to Mutko and Co. Anto won assured - "... And we have a bunch ..."
    4. KaPToC
      KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: mark_rod
      For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

      So as not to be an empty bell, say it to his face
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  7. Nonna
    Nonna 6 December 2017 18: 57 New
    29
    Here you have a multi-port from the guarantor - fall on four mosl. Note to all patriots - learn from Putin to love your homeland, kneeling
  8. VIA_56
    VIA_56 6 December 2017 18: 58 New
    37
    I can say this only in one word: SHAME!
    Can a white flag make STATE?
    I can say one thing - for me, personally, this Olympics does not exist.
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 6 December 2017 19: 46 New
      +9
      Quote: VIA_56
      I can say one thing - for me, personally, this Olympics does not exist.

      For me, by the way, too ....
      Although ours are not so pressed, but also sensitively, personally for me all these Olympics are already an empty phrase. Especially against the background of these "crystal clear athletes"


      and the Norwegian ski team, consisting entirely of asthmatics ...
  9. killganoff
    killganoff 6 December 2017 18: 58 New
    32
    The rhetoric of TERPILA !!! Well, how much longer this ..... will spit in the face of his people? !!!!! Indeed, is it possible to yap at those who have his money and children ...
    The next step is to bikeot the 2018 World Cup ... We are waiting. For whom and what are our athletes preparing for the “white" flag? !!! What the hell patriotism! ???
    People, Russians, wake up !!!
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 6 December 2017 19: 35 New
      +2
      Don’t dust you. What do you propose to pound on the podium with your boot? Only this is expected of us, to finally declare Mordor. You can not give in to provocation, because this is the purpose of provocation. As the bull said from an anecdote to an impatient bull-calf: now, we are slowly going down the mountain and devoting the whole herd.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 December 2017 20: 04 New
      +1
      Well, the World Cup is vryatly who will boycott, doping is not prohibited there - the calculation is based on the number of goals scored, especially since it can bring Russia a trillion rubles of profit that foreign sponsors and fans will bring.
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 6 December 2017 20: 11 New
        +4
        What profit is there? At least partially recapture spent and stolen on the construction of stadiums for African blacks from Spartak and Zenith. lol
    3. Lexus
      Lexus 6 December 2017 20: 08 New
      +5
      Vovchik learned from the “drunken master” - everything in the family. And we are not his relatives.
      1. Victor-M
        Victor-M 7 December 2017 02: 17 New
        0
        Quote: lexus
        Vovchik learned from the “drunken master” - everything in the family. And we are not his relatives.

        Go skittles suck lepsos.
    4. terro
      terro 6 December 2017 20: 22 New
      +1
      What to wake up from? Who spits in the face of his people? And who is yapping here on the "hair dryer", but with errors? Hysteria is not necessary. "Bulked" at other sites hanging out.

      This is war. Now is our move. Come to the Olympics and pick up your medals (albeit under the "white" flag), is this a really bad answer? It’s just that Russia’s form this time. Another bad thing is the disqualification of leading athletes immediately before the Olympics. Let's hope that there is a reserve ready to replace “knocked out of the saddle” and adequately perform in difficult psychological conditions.
    5. Winnie76
      Winnie76 6 December 2017 21: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: killganoff
      The rhetoric of TERPILA !!! Well, how much longer this ..... will spit in the face of his people? !!!!!

      IMHO Putin, this is the best thing that has happened to Russia over the past 100 years. Can you name the best ruler? Otherwise, your posts are a dumb cluck.
      1. Krasnyiy komissar
        Krasnyiy komissar 7 December 2017 02: 17 New
        +6
        Joseph Vissarionovich did much more for the country than all subsequent rulers combined. This man never forgave betrayal and insults, so the fate of the IOC and WADA officials would be extremely unenviable.
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      3. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 8 December 2017 09: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: Winnie76
        IMHO Putin, this is the best thing that happened to Russia in recent years 100.

        100 years? No! Against the background of Joseph Vissarionovich, Vladimir Vladimirovich somehow fades. And significantly. But over the past 30 years - I agree.
  10. Odysseus
    Odysseus 6 December 2017 18: 58 New
    18
    We are driving in disgrace, and with a white flag. Congratulations to all.
    And yes, the decision must be made by the Olympic Assembly.
    1. agel26r
      agel26r 6 December 2017 19: 14 New
      +1
      and nobody personally invited you there. so you can calmly lay yourself on the sofa and if you want with popcorn.
    2. Dimy4
      Dimy4 6 December 2017 19: 53 New
      +5
      We are driving in disgrace, and with a white flag. Congratulations to all.

      Who goes with a white flag has lost in advance. Even if he shows the best result, they will still be banned, shaken with a test tube, they will say he took dope! Shame will be accepted twice!
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 December 2017 21: 18 New
      +1
      Our new winners are under white - this time they will not receive the BMW X5, ten million rubles and much more - at least one joy will save billions of rubles.
  11. super-vitek
    super-vitek 6 December 2017 18: 59 New
    30
    Yes ..... After such words “like a guarantor”, “like a constitution” I want to go to the bathroom and pour a tub of cold water on myself !!! How painful, insulting !!! They are trying to wipe our feet about us, and this "leader" carries such rubbish !!! It is a pity that such a "person" will rule us in the coming years. And sports will go. For the dough. Patriots ......! Ugh !!!
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 14 New
      +6
      It is a pity that such a "person" will rule us in the coming years.
      we’ll try, at least try to choose another.
      1. Antianglosax
        Antianglosax 6 December 2017 19: 52 New
        10
        Quote: Gardamir
        It is a pity that such a "person" will rule us in the coming years.
        we’ll try, at least try to choose another.

        Of the set that we are offered, the other can only be chosen by the insane or pro-Western militant liberalist!
        Children's game - put a couple of dozen poop and one cookie - who will choose what?
        1. Gardamir
          Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 56 New
          +3
          From that set
          not yet evening. Maybe that will change in the set.
      2. albert
        albert 6 December 2017 19: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: Gardamir
        we’ll try, at least try to choose another.

        Duck, what if he has a rating of 146%? Here you have to choose other methods. I won’t hear them, otherwise they’ll put him like Kvachkova laughing
  12. poquello
    poquello 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
    +3
    yes do not care olympiad
    Vladimir Putin, who announced today that he is running for the next presidential term
  13. Same lech
    Same lech 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
    30
    Personally, I will not watch the 2018 Olympics and the performances of athletes representing themselves ... what's interesting what nothing but the personal motives of the athletes themselves.
    Another person is killing me ... who will pay $ 15 million for the subversive activities of the WADA commission imposed by the IOC on RUSSIA ... really out of our pocket ...
    I'm talking about GDP as a taxpayer ...
    I am categorically against this
    am ... let this money be paid by the one who unwound the flywheel of the doping scandal ... that is, Rodchenkov and Maclaren.
    1. Odysseus
      Odysseus 6 December 2017 19: 03 New
      18
      Quote: The same Lech
      Another person is killing me ... who will pay $ 15 million for the subversive activities of the WADA commission ... really out of our pocket.

      Well, it’s not out of Rottenberg’s pocket that you are asking frivolous questions. Of course, from the state.
      Repent and pay, and then pay and repent again.
      And this is just the beginning ...
    2. johnik
      johnik 6 December 2017 19: 08 New
      +6
      Let those who go collect with donations. what kind of work - they compensate the state for the preparation!
    3. novel66
      novel66 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
      +7
      since we, as a country, do not go to the Olympics - to hell with them and not money, let them interrupt from principles to kvass!
    4. sabakina
      sabakina 6 December 2017 19: 19 New
      +6
      Alexei, there is still Rodchenkova’s sister. Interestingly, she sits behind the “doping scandal”, but he doesn’t, although she was “walking” toli to the suspect, toli to the suspect ...
    5. region58
      region58 6 December 2017 20: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      who will pay 15 million

      Well, have you already said that they will pay? In my opinion, you have to wait a day or two ... otherwise everything is on emotions ...
      As for Putin: “they can go in private” - everything is correct, but what else could he say that they will not let anyone out into the castle? Rave. If you want to go - go on, it's up to you. He cannot forbid anyone to go.
  14. Elevator
    Elevator in the building 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
    18
    Oh, will Vladimir Vladimirovich open the monument to Rodchenkoff & Stepanoff?
  15. russian ivan
    russian ivan 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
    +5
    Who goes as a private trader - that guest worker.
    1. novel66
      novel66 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
      +5
      he is a hairman! Vlasovite! execution (can be moral)
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 December 2017 20: 16 New
      +2
      Private traders will not be. They will go at the expense of the state. Putin said.
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 7 December 2017 07: 05 New
        0
        Actually, the IOC promised to pay expenses to athletes from Russia.
  16. Nonna
    Nonna 6 December 2017 19: 00 New
    23
    Quote: killganoff
    The rhetoric of TERPILA !!! Well, how much longer this ..... will spit in the face of his people? !!!!!
    People, Russians, wake up !!!


    From this day on, they were allowed not to respect the flag and not to stand up while performing the anthem.
    1. orphan 63
      orphan 63 6 December 2017 19: 56 New
      10
      Valdai Club, November 13, 2017
      Putin about NOT ALLOWING the 2018 Olympics: REDUCE RUSSIA NOT GET IT !! OUR Answer will be FAST!

      Going to give up under the white flag? !!!
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      2. E50M
        E50M 7 December 2017 10: 09 New
        0
        Quote: Orphan 63
        Valdai Club, November 13, 2017
        Putin about NOT ALLOWING the 2018 Olympics: REDUCE RUSSIA NOT GET IT !! OUR Answer will be FAST!

        Going to give up under the white flag? !!!

        And where does Putin say a tough answer here? Wrote for those who will break the video to watch? Troll on a salary.
  17. andrew42
    andrew42 6 December 2017 19: 05 New
    +9
    Anyone who is unprincipled, he can go with a white rag to Pchenkhan, bowing humiliatingly and repeating "ku" 100500 times. Only such athletes have no place under the flag of Russia in the following rips. So let them remain under the white flag, or let them sit under the flags of Fiji, Aruba and everyone else in the IOC, but let them fall under them .. I definitely won’t be rooting for these sufferers, but in the future I’ll also have the posters "hang out. And what could Putin say? - said to the "world community".
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 12 New
      +2
      - said to the "world community".
      And that is true of the people of the country which he rules ...
    2. Sofa General
      Sofa General 6 December 2017 22: 48 New
      +3
      For example, Victor Ann. If he goes, I will cheer for him. Because it is IMPORTANT for him to FORCE KOREA even under the white flag. And he will step up - he has the strongest motivation.
  18. juneart
    juneart 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
    20


    Such and only such an answer to the IOC
  19. Xeueys
    Xeueys 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
    19
    Who wants to go, let them go. But without state. support. OI - 90% of the politics, 5 - sports and 5 more horseradish understand what. At the Olympic Games, it’s not the personal ambitions of athletes that are embodied, but the honor is defended and the prestige of the Motherland is raised. On TV in Russia, OI does not broadcast, do not bring the IOC a huge loot for broadcasts and advertising. Who really wants to, will find broadcasts in the internet. Thus, Russia will literally say to the overthrowed west: "Yes, cf. are we all for you, homosexual spawn."
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 12 New
      +2
      Who wants to go, let them go. But without state. support
      Have you carefully read what the president said?
  20. Herculesic
    Herculesic 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
    +8
    It is necessary to return the Soviet Red Flag to the country - the name of the country can not be changed so far! And let someone try to let the flag disgrace what happened with our tricolor now! sad Silence the country, people and flag! !!
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 6 December 2017 19: 53 New
      +2
      There was one spot on the Russian flag, under it the Vlasovites fought against their people ... Now this spot has become larger and can’t be removed ...
      1. siberalt
        siberalt 6 December 2017 20: 25 New
        +2
        We will see the flag of Russia at the closing of the Olympiad, and you can not sing the anthem even under the stadium karaoke. Zhukov needed to apologize earlier, and Medvedev did not protect Mutka, but heaped up civil courts with lawsuits in defense of our athletes. Just do not sprinkle ash on your head. Word and deed for the Russian athletes. We wish them good luck and high sports results! hi
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 6 December 2017 20: 33 New
          +1
          Zhukov needed to apologize earlier, and Medvedev did not protect Mutka
          .. Road spoon for dinner .... And what they could do, have already done ...
  21. astankard
    astankard 6 December 2017 19: 06 New
    15
    Only one way out - do not participate! But talking about some kind of universal patriotism of athletes is ridiculous. Homeland for some is not important.
    Speaking under the white flag ... loss of honor.
  22. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 6 December 2017 19: 07 New
    +6
    Quote: Twodi
    In general, to declare a boycott of the OI up to the year 2024. To put things in order, the budget of the moka will also drop and the status will be different.

    Actually, according to the rules of the IOC, a country that announced a boycott of the Olympic Games automatically misses two Olympic Games in a row. For example, if they are boycotting the summer games, then they should skip exactly the 2 summer Olympic Games. In addition, contributions must be paid in full anyway, so as if this country is taking part in them. But I completely agree with you. These games are a complete boycott.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 December 2017 20: 11 New
      +3
      Quote: Lyuba1965_01
      Actually, according to the rules of the IOC, the country that announced a boycott of the OI

      stop I saw this as the SGA and the company, which boycotted OI in 1980 in Moscow, "did not take" two terms ... fool
    2. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 6 December 2017 20: 23 New
      +1
      and has such a rule been in effect for a long time?
  23. Galleon
    Galleon 6 December 2017 19: 07 New
    +8
    Bitch low-chol. I’ll definitely go to the polls. I will vote.
  24. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 6 December 2017 19: 07 New
    0
    This is the way out. Next, let Mutko and Zhukov hang out.
  25. corporal
    corporal 6 December 2017 19: 08 New
    +1
    I must say bluntly that we ourselves are partly to blame

    How neatly self-criticized.
    prohibitive measures against Russian athletes will not be taken.

    And thanks for that.
  26. CAT BAIYUN
    CAT BAIYUN 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
    15
    Naturally, those wishing to go under a neutral flag will not be held by their legs. But...
    I very much hope that this first statement by BB is just the FIRST statement. If no further action is taken, then in general all this will be a disgrace for the whole country.
    1. bouncyhunter
      bouncyhunter 6 December 2017 19: 43 New
      +7
      Hello, Vasya ! hi I'm shocked, to be honest ... What collapsed in the foundations of Russia? recourse Why is that ? A lot of questions, answers - zero ... negative
      1. pvv113
        pvv113 6 December 2017 23: 10 New
        +8
        There is an option

        lol
      2. CAT BAIYUN
        CAT BAIYUN 7 December 2017 02: 57 New
        +5
        I'm shocked, to be honest ...

        Good evening, Pasha. hi
        Yes, I myself am thoughtful. What they will try to remove - it was understandable. Well, alienated. WHERE, MLEEN RESPONSE ACTION? I'm asking.
        But I am comforting myself with hope: all of this Caudla hopes precisely for retaliatory actions. And they are ready for them, since they count several moves ahead.
        I repeat - I really hope for the subsequent actions of Russia. Rather, what they will be.
      3. E50M
        E50M 7 December 2017 10: 14 New
        0
        Quote: bouncyhunter
        Hello, Vasya ! hi I'm shocked, to be honest ... What collapsed in the foundations of Russia? recourse Why is that ? A lot of questions, answers - zero ... negative

        Wait, wait and see. Maybe there will still be some moves.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 December 2017 20: 08 New
      +1
      You can say anything - but no.
    3. Midshipman
      Midshipman 6 December 2017 20: 20 New
      +2
      Someone suggested that our Olympians perform in the form of the USSR, under the Soviet anthem. That would be a feint))) So, do not worry and believe in Your President.
  27. Gardamir
    Gardamir 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
    12
    . Firstly, we must directly say that we are partly to blame for this,
    Vote for him, he repents five hundred times more for the country.
  28. Prjanik
    Prjanik 6 December 2017 19: 09 New
    +1
    Vobschem said as I thought 95 percent, to decide the Olympic meeting and the athletes themselves. And it is right. But Wadam and the rest of the p-Sam will remember everything, at least they did not rejoice for a long time, until the presidential candidate hi
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 6 December 2017 22: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: Prjanik

      Vobschem said as I thought 95 percent, to decide the Olympic meeting and the athletes themselves.

      Fifteen Lyamov athletes also collect? Or should my country pay these ghouls so that neutral athletes compete under a white rag?
  29. Lyuba1965_01
    Lyuba1965_01 6 December 2017 19: 10 New
    16
    Not mine. I read the comments on one of the sites. But it hurts like that ... right, or something ... although I don’t know what to think ...
    "The Greeks came up with the Olympics as a move that was supposed to prevent and stop wars. Sport is the sublimation of war. If there are problems with the Olympics, then war is on the verge."
  30. agel26r
    agel26r 6 December 2017 19: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: mark_rod
    Firstly, it must be said bluntly that we ourselves are partly to blame for this, because we gave rise to this.

    Each guilty person has a specific surname, name and patronymic! For example: Putin Vladimir Vladimirovich ...

    and why are you so confidently say ??? or do you know what the rest don't know ??? what I'm not sure about. A person who is currently little bit versed in what is happening will never allow himself not only to speak verbally, but also to think about it. I will not explain to you why, because our paths and consciousness are different.
    1. Esoteric
      Esoteric 6 December 2017 20: 15 New
      +6
      Quote: agel26r
      I will not explain to you why, because our paths and consciousness are different.

      You do not explain to him and to us ... We have different paths, different consciousness, as well as the concept of honor, dignity and duty to the Fatherland. However, like sources of income and job responsibilities ... belay
  31. Yanakolos
    Yanakolos 6 December 2017 19: 13 New
    12
    Forcibly forbid participation - there is no moral right. To humble oneself or not is everyone's personal business. They want to get medals even despite humiliation - a neutral flag is in their hands, only who will be proud of them? Russia? So these medals, if they are not for Russia, are nowhere and for personal ambitions.
    To boycott is generally a joke, how can we boycott what was removed from us. Our olympiads were boycotted by the West: the summer Moscow in the 80th was boycotted, the winter in Sochi - the leaders of the Western countries boycotted - that is, they announced a boycott in response to our invitation, but how to declare a boycott to the one who told you: we will not allow you, "you are dirty, well, or about the dirty rubs ...". We do not need a boycott. and not a neutral flag, but its alternative Olympic Games in Sochi: Olympic Challenge Games.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 December 2017 20: 09 New
      +2
      We now seem to have 22 humiliates, are going to go for medals at the Olympics 2018.
  32. Kokarev Mikhail
    Kokarev Mikhail 6 December 2017 19: 14 New
    +8
    If you want to participate as athletes without a country, then without a country you need to. Withdraw from the IOC in general and from similar organizations too. Do not pay any money whatsoever, but instead allocate grants for individual athletes for and for participation. It will be cheaper. Yes, and stand up today in such organizations, descriminating their mission in general, this is a shame. Russia's withdrawal from this organization casts doubt on the existence of Olympic organizations as world organizations. I understand that the IOC observers in 2014 were not at the Olympics, or this is a bunch of morons.
  33. Stas 2rep
    Stas 2rep 6 December 2017 19: 14 New
    +9
    The country's behavior is similar to that of a woman with low social responsibility.
    1. AsKet84
      AsKet84 6 December 2017 20: 48 New
      +3
      ))) I wanted to notice, not just the country, but its officials and those who are extremely interested in fulfilling the so-called dream of a Big Start .. And for the townsfolk or bleaches of the thresholds of high offices, just curse and GOOD THOUGHT: ".. IF TOMORROW ON A HIKING IF TOMORROW A WAR OR ON A TURNOVER .. AND IS IT WORTH .. FOR THESE !!!
    2. KaPToC
      KaPToC 6 December 2017 20: 54 New
      +1
      Quote: Stas 2REP
      The country's behavior is similar to that of a woman with low social responsibility.

      Yes, we do not care about the level of social responsibility of France.
  34. Giants
    Giants 6 December 2017 19: 15 New
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    Yes, on May 7, 2014, Monsieur Didier had a pretty good fuck of our President. He marked him with red lines, said what would happen if ... and Vova copes so well with the role of Parsley, which is controlled through a hole in the ass.
    My personal opinion: in the Kremlin - a traitor and an enemy of the people, no doubt already.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 December 2017 20: 13 New
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      Well, under Putin, there was never a foreign policy with a steel ridge — remember 2014, they passed a law on the use of armed forces in Ukraine to protect Russians, but in practice they showed a tight tail in April 2014 in the Donbass.
      1. Giants
        Giants 6 December 2017 20: 42 New
        +7
        We, the country and the people, crawled in the face on the table and wiped our feet against us at EBNe. The same thing happens under Putin. This is not an accident, it is a regularity, because the country is driven by the same traitor as Yeltsin. To the best of cunning, but still miserable and cowardly insignificance. IMHO
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 6 December 2017 23: 56 New
          +1
          At least under Putin, the economy began to grow and the army strengthened, and we must admit that the infrastructure in the country began to develop - factories were being built.
  35. AleBors
    AleBors 6 December 2017 19: 18 New
    10
    Yeah ... Shame ... In principle, as expected. We will condone the creation of new traitors and traitors. What after this statement can there be an election campaign?
  36. Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 6 December 2017 19: 18 New
    +1
    Guys, let’s without extra emotions, athletes people who have devoted their lives to sports, for some of which the Olympics the chance to get there is only once in a lifetime. You can’t deprive them of this chance, they are not to blame for becoming a bargaining chip in someone else’s dishonest game, when the enemy goes to any nasty thing just to prevent a certain candidate in the election, they say it's all because of him.
  37. chernig
    chernig 6 December 2017 19: 19 New
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    “An athlete who represents his country in games like the Olympic show is, first of all, a person who represents his country. With all its attributes, whatever it is. We do not choose a homeland. That means a patriot.
    An athlete who is ready to humble himself before walking under a white rag for the sake of his profits is not a patriot. This is not a member of the Russian team, he does not represent Russia. He represents his interests. This is just a participant in the Olympic Games. Mercenary for extras. "Something like this, the previous article seemed more reasonable!
  38. X
    X Y Z 6 December 2017 19: 19 New
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    And I really did not like the hysterical, exalted performance of Yolanda Chen. The lady was apparently not explained in childhood that playing cards with cheaters does not make any sense, only losses. And now she, with ardor worthy of a better application, is trying to prove that in any case we must go and win, after which we will go with our flag at the close so that all enemies will feel bad. And like an adult. Firstly, it’s not the one who wants to go there, but the one who will be let through by a special commission that has already rejected all the Sochi winners in advance. Secondly, it is not a fact that they will go to the start and will not become the object of further provocations. The psychological situation at the Olympics will be appropriate. On a pedestal they may not be allowed under any pretext. And thirdly, no one gives a guarantee that the won medals will not be taken away after 2 ... 3 years. And why go? To collect spitting and humiliation. Received little? They decided to crush us to the end and if something goes wrong, then they just change the rules and no dashing passage in front of the stands will make any impression on the cynical overseas uncles. And if someone tries to heroize himself by pulling a flag, singing a hymn, painting his nails, etc., he will quickly be pacified by excommunication and fines. These guys have calculated almost everything and are unlikely to allow improvisation on our part. And all the cards in their hands.
  39. agel26r
    agel26r 6 December 2017 19: 20 New
    0
    Quote: killganoff
    People, Russians, wake up !!!

    Russia is a multinational country in which many peoples and even more nationalities live. So you do not pull on the role of resuscitator, pull more on the instigator.
    1. nemec55
      nemec55 6 December 2017 19: 55 New
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      Russia is a multinational country in which many peoples and even more nationalities live. So you do not pull on the role of resuscitator, pull more on the instigator.

      I don’t see any wrongness in this phrase, I’m German, but I’m Russian German and I think the same way all other nations living in Russia will say
      1. asiat_61
        asiat_61 7 December 2017 07: 12 New
        +2
        Russian is not a nationality, it is a state of mind.
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  40. Grey68
    Grey68 6 December 2017 19: 20 New
    +4
    Quote: Odyssey
    Quote: The same Lech
    Another person is killing me ... who will pay $ 15 million for the subversive activities of the WADA commission ... really out of our pocket.

    Well, it’s not out of Rottenberg’s pocket that you are asking frivolous questions. Of course, from the state.
    Repent and pay, and then pay and repent again.
    And this is just the beginning ...

    I agree this is only the beginning, we can also forget about the World Cup. The reason, let’s say
    Atmospheric pressure in Russia does not meet international standards
  41. Tim
    Tim 6 December 2017 19: 21 New
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    Here are the statements of Mr. Kadyrova R.A. chapters of the Czech Republic. IMHO a decent response to a neutral flag.
    ,, We have a Homeland, we have our Fatherland! Not a single athlete with a Chechen registration will compete under a neutral flag. And we will celebrate those Chechen athletes who, by all criteria, had to get into the national team and go to the Olympics as winners. ,,
    1. LPD17
      LPD17 6 December 2017 22: 42 New
      0
      these are the words of the STATE
      Bow to Ramzan Akhmadovich

      and not those who advised us
      "The Kremlin urged not to give in to emotions"
    2. Puma
      Puma 7 December 2017 04: 51 New
      +3
      One small but. Kadyrov, this statement does not cost anything. Because there are no potential winners with a Chechen registration in winter sports.
  42. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 6 December 2017 19: 21 New
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    “The situation must be examined carefully” and entrusted with the final decision to the Olympic Assembly.
    Yes, yes ... as our court is independent of the Kremlin, the Olympic meeting is also the same. I see this as an attempt to shift responsibility to the wrong side when making an unpopular decision among the people. This is not the first time such a trick has been done. In a situation where it is necessary to express A resolute protest and to declare that Russia has only one Flag, which it is proud of and sometimes our people do not spare their lives, so that our flag proudly flies over the country,and we have no other flags and lower our Flag (and they suggest that it’s IT, if anyone still doesn’t understand !!!) we cannot under any circumstances! And this fake Olympics would go to hell))) But no, we’ll get a tear out about the fate of athletes , as if their fate might be higher than the Honor and future of our Motherland ...
  43. VeteranVSSSR
    VeteranVSSSR 6 December 2017 19: 24 New
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    as a neighbor I will say
    - It's a shame and pity for the fans;
    - rulers of your weak and spineless individuals;
    -and, as Kolya-s-Urengoy used to say,-go to, the so-called OI "well, OO-O-Very big stupidity.
    1. Winnie76
      Winnie76 6 December 2017 22: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: VeteranVSSSR
      sorry and sorry for the fans

      You better take pity on yourself
      Quote: VeteranVSSSR
      - rulers of your weak and spineless individuals;

      And your strong and spineful?
  44. Severe
    Severe 6 December 2017 19: 26 New
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    Well, the GDP was bent ... it lasted a long time ... but the oligarch friends were tired of losing losses ... I think after the elections a better drain on the sovereignty of the country will go. There are no words ... resentment boils in the heart ... and Vova got into tolerance ... I think, in the elections to vote for whom?!?
    1. purple
      purple 6 December 2017 19: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Harsh
      Well, the GDP was bent ... it lasted a long time ... but the oligarch friends were tired of losing losses ... I think after the elections a better drain on the sovereignty of the country will go. There are no words ... resentment boils in the heart ... and Vova got into tolerance ... I think, in the elections to vote for whom?!?

      All that remains is Zhirinovsky, although a populist ... but Putin is getting better
      1. Severe
        Severe 6 December 2017 19: 43 New
        +4
        Zhirik is not a panacea, he is saturated with this power ... he is brought up to her .. he is like a fish in water in her ... Yes, and a noble liar. Look on the internet as his Karaulov asks about his incomes and family incomes ... it’s spinning like a frying pan ... So this is not that ...
      2. AVGUST
        AVGUST 7 December 2017 10: 14 New
        +1
        No, well, ok, let's choose Sharikov better, he will tell us for the world revolution and which eye of the bourgeoisie to poke out ......
    2. AsKet84
      AsKet84 6 December 2017 20: 39 New
      +2
      I agree, where do we go with our "cheap" and natural patriotism against millions and guarantees that they are not "honestly earned" in Western wallets .. For Titova, yes, radish horseradish .. Against all, by canceling the newsletter by violating the rules for filling out "your position vote"
  45. faterdom
    faterdom 6 December 2017 19: 27 New
    +2
    One factor alone has not yet been taken into account. Depends on Trump and Kim.
    And where will it go? Although with some flag?
  46. mavrus
    mavrus 6 December 2017 19: 27 New
    +4
    Quote: skeptic31
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

    I agree disgrace ... But on the other hand, the Mokovadav bureaucrats did everything to prevent the Russian athletes ... So why would they make life easier. It was necessary to spit earlier, as soon as all this nonsense began. And now we must already begin to confront in a different way, if they do not understand in a good way, then we must take an example from Una, for each run-in, answer in full, and not chew snot.
    1. AsKet84
      AsKet84 6 December 2017 20: 33 New
      +3
      There was a joke on this site “not to scare all this invalid IOC and take it off with exercises for emergency evacuation of Vladivostok”, and then when they pass all the tests there. To declare that the exercises were planned. But this step would be appropriate if you ruled the country completely different and at a completely different time ... Alas and AH ..
  47. Karabin
    Karabin 6 December 2017 19: 28 New
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    Firstly, it must be said bluntly that we are partly to blame for this, because we gave rise to this. And secondly, I think that this occasion was used in a not entirely honest way, to put it mildly.

    In your country you just spat and wiped your legs, and you just mumble and bleat. And does this rag intend to rule the Great Country for another 6 years?
  48. GUSAR
    GUSAR 6 December 2017 19: 31 New
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    Look for someone who is not too lazy to find it, I’ll quickly find it. Two weeks ago, our great president, army of servants, propagandists, and patriots on a paycheck loudly declared something in the spirit of “What is another white flag? What neutral status? If so, we uuuh! " And now, you see, it’s necessary to be calmer, it’s okay, well, it was like in the Donbass, at first it was “let them try,” and then “the best choice of the Ukrainian people” ...
    1. E50M
      E50M 7 December 2017 10: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Orphan 63
      Valdai Club, November 13, 2017
      Putin about NOT ALLOWING the 2018 Olympics: REDUCE RUSSIA NOT GET IT !! OUR Answer will be FAST!

      Going to give up under the white flag? !!!

      Is this the case you are looking for? Well, where is it about "wow, we all?" Detected payroll.
  49. Simon
    Simon 6 December 2017 19: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: skeptic31
    What a disgrace. There is a rule as old as the world - never play with those who play without rules. Spit on them and step back. But for some reason they are trying to force us to get through this humiliation. Of course, if we don’t go, then something offensive will shout to us next, even very much, but they will shout in either case. The only difference is that when you spit on them, they will shout with anger, and if you play by their rules, then with contempt. As someone it is not clear that in this situation, playing by their rules is a disgrace and shame!

    My opinion is that Russia needs to create alternative, Olympic games, games and call on countries that also don’t like the rules of a “strong” dictator, such as the Goodwill games. yes
    1. AsKet84
      AsKet84 6 December 2017 20: 27 New
      +3
      Unfortunately, there is one, and as we all see, a strong argument: “WHO PAYS, THAT IS ORDERING ...” AND WHERE IS YOUR HOMELAND. THE SON ?? - TRIED HER FOR OFFSHHOR COURS !! ...
  50. spirit
    spirit 6 December 2017 19: 33 New
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    Come on, Dimon won a joke with Baham, he drove teas) I’m not sure if he will be met with bread and salt by our main liberals, headed by GDP