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Who has the courage to support Russia?

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Here, just before this, VTsIOM published the results of a survey among Russian citizens on the subject of which states from, if I may say so, Russians consider their closest associates as the most worthy and successful politicians. The majority of Russians named three figures - President of Belarus Alexander Lukashenko (with a serious margin) and the head of the Republic of Kazakhstan Nursultan Nazarbayev. Also, the overwhelming majority of the citizens of the Russian Federation in the course of the survey called the mentioned Belarus and Kazakhstan the most friendly towards the Russian Federation.


In the course of other (similar) polls, which were not limited to answer options in the space of the former USSR, such countries (as the most friendly) sounded like China, Cuba, Venezuela, India, Syria.

Yes, where there really. If you look at the results of such surveys, Russia literally basks in friendly support. With a good dozen states, they strive to give Russia their leverage, and more than fifty go to international institutions and declare that they are on the side of Russia. Exactly act ...

It is clear that it will sound emotionally - but to everyone, to say the least, spit on Russia. Spit, and point. Russia is remembered only when it is necessary either to get a loan at a percentage of zero point zero, or to write off a loan previously received. And even better at the same time to write off all the accumulated debts and get a new financial aid from Russia. And as soon as Russia bucks and says that for the time being, they say, it would be possible to perekantovatsya somehow against the background of the crisis, the eternal song begins: “Oh, well, if so, we start negotiations with Western partners - they are certainly without means of subsistence will not leave.

Some fellow citizens say: well, not so much - many trust us, many like Russia no less than their homeland. Well, yes, yes, yes ... It is possible that some citizens are really ready to express confidence. Well, at least that Belarusian, who is the only one who was not afraid of the Olympic wrath, and went to the stadium with the Russian tricolor.

Who has the courage to support Russia?


Partners from among the elites are just not capable of this. None of the “friendly” foreign tops will declare solidarity with pure Russian athletes and will not decide to refuse to participate in the Olympic Games in relation to their athletes. No one squeaks. They didn’t squeak in the case of the apogee of democracy and the crown of human rights, when the Russian team of Paralympic athletes was removed from the Paralympic Games in Rio.

All of them showed signs of support from their own corner - they say that we are with you, Russians. You hold on there. But at the same time, they shrugged their shoulders: they say, you know, how can we abandon the Games - our athletes are definitely clean, they are ready - you can't lose fees, you can't get sanctions from the IOC. You already enter our position. And so - yes, we are allies. The Crimea, they say, did not recognize, - so we cannot, and then again deprivation of everything in the world, sanctions, additional dislike of the “world community”. You really do it yourself. And let us publish some almanac in our website, on the 357 page of which we will print the map of Crimea in colors close to those of Russia ...

Our servicemen for Syria are dying - in battles with terrorist scum, it is known by whom it feeds, helping to liberate the city behind the city. And the parochial political patriots in Syria, who are already being kicked on all sides by representatives of the so-called “international community”, cannot even afford to say a word about solidarity with Russia. Let it be on such an issue as support for Russian sports.

Our citizens are gathering from a pure heart assistance to countries that have been struck by a natural cataclysm (flood, fire, earthquake); Russia writes off tens of billions of dollars to states that have only “oil as dirt”, and who has said his firm word — hasn’t it been time, at least, to morally support the Russians? Everything, sorry, stuck the tongues so far that nothing in the world supposedly happened to comment. Mockery from the "partners" is heard. Friends support is not. Even in words it is not. Is something wrong with our friends?

Although what I’m talking about ... If we don’t always have Russian elites directly from the standpoint of solidarity with Russia, then what complaints about foreign elites can we talk about? We have a whole vice-premier sitting in a leather chair, although the scandals around him have been unwound for at least two years, and who didn’t hit a finger on his finger in order to defend the national sport or at least find the courage and resign. But it is impossible - the horses do not change at the crossing. Elite breed? ..

We have a whole chairman of the Olympic Committee announces that the IOC decision "has some positive moments." For whom are these moments positive? For those who are ready to change their citizenship to a white flag and a fee from the IOC? If so, then let the whole country throw off such ladies and gentlemen for a fee and pour at least a dozen medals. But somehow it is heard more and more that sport is for athletes, they prepared, trained, spent their strength and money. And the fact that sport is not a tangle in itself, but also an event for the audience, an opportunity to protect the honor of the country, is not already spoken about. Moveton. And why, if you can buy a Brazilian or Korean under the flag of your national team and get sick, strenuously forgetting that it would be better to invest in your youth sport in support of the coaching corps. Yes, of course, sincerely sorry for the athletes who are not caring for their fee, but primarily for the Fatherland. There is no pity for others who have sport for sport, money, advertising, public relations, and for “a flag can be white”.

In general, it is quite clear that the partners threw in a situation for us to quarrel, for a collision with their heads. But for the first time? Not the first and not even the forty-first. The problem is that many of us still believe that it is possible to negotiate with the West about something, if you play it strictly by its rules. No, really. Will not work. Most compatriots remember very well what happened to our country when we took other people's rules of the game as a basis. That's right - the country has ceased to exist as a whole. So, to step on the same rake again? ..

But for the Allies, this is a simple, straightforward test. Solidarity or another distance? Of course, one can appeal to the phrase that Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy. But the army and fleet, so it turns out that not all problems can be resolved.

By the way, this is a test for all of us, for our country. If we call ourselves a great power on all the broadcasts, then it’s time to meet the criteria not only in terms of estimates of oil production. The first criterion of a great power is not even in the number of nuclear warheads. He is able to protect his citizens under any conditions, in any “geopolitical” weather.
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  1. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 December 2017 06: 34
    +4
    Mocking from the "partners" is heard. Support from friends - no. Even in words it is not. Is something wrong with our friends?

    ... here the principle is similar to that of ukrokakly - if only not for me, my hut is on the edge ... and my friends are in trouble, though the Bulgarians have declared support for Russia ...
    1. 210ox
      210ox 7 December 2017 06: 40
      30
      It's not about "friends", but about ourselves. Once we do not respect our people and the state, we are ready to bend for the sake of the dough and possible "forgiveness" ... It's not about ordinary people .. And about those who feed in and around the Kremlin .
      Quote: aszzz888
      Mocking from the "partners" is heard. Support from friends - no. Even in words it is not. Is something wrong with our friends?

      ... here the principle is similar to that of ukrokakly - if only not for me, my hut is on the edge ... and my friends are in trouble, though the Bulgarians have declared support for Russia ...
      1. Prjanik
        Prjanik 7 December 2017 10: 57
        +4
        No one will forgive anyone, we are in any case, but everything has its time. Since WADA legalizes doping only for its own through therapeutic exceptions, Russia and China should boycott this office together, and there the sex of the world will be tightened afterwards. The Games themselves are in question, if the PSs are unchanged for themselves, then during the Olympics they have planned war in Korea, hence the doubts about the participation of the Amer team.
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      3. johnik
        johnik 9 December 2017 08: 53
        0
        And about the simple ones, why so casually?
    2. dSK
      dSK 7 December 2017 07: 04
      10
      in the ability to protect their citizens - under any conditions

      "Mobilization and consolidation." Forty years ago, multi-day trips were common. Now the fashion is to fly to sunbathe in the warm regions, hang out at the stadiums, beer, drink tonic. You can’t earn money at Zarnitsa, orienteering, Voroshilov Arrow, and you can’t add ads. hi
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 7 December 2017 07: 23
        +5
        Quote: dsk
        You can’t earn money at Zarnitsa, orienteering, Voroshilov Arrow, and you can’t add ads.

        If I were, they would build. But for this you need to be a patriot yourself. But the "businessmen" with this big strain
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 7 December 2017 09: 15
          21
          Robots, what are you talking about? What patriots? What are friends of Russia? I always said that Russia has never had, never will have friends! Russia has only two friends - ARMY and Navy! That's all, the friends of Russia are over. There are only those countries that at this particular moment in time are profitable either to join the wake of Russia or to cling to its subsidies (this is me specifically about Lukashenko, but ordinary Belarusians will not be offended). And it has always been so, ALWAYS emphasize, throughout ALL of our history, it is time to get used to it.
          Our misfortune is precisely what Elena indicated in the "business affairs", in corrupt government officials who are ready to sell themselves to anyone for 30 pieces of silver. But here the matter is rather not even in the officials themselves, because they are also from the people, the point here is in the very system of modern Russia, in the coordinate system and values. We destroyed the Soviet system, and what we created turned out to be so clumsy and ugly that there is no place for honest and disinterested people in this system, they will either be obsolete, or imprisoned, or beaten in the end.
          Only Stalin could restore order in this system. Putin, although not the worst of the options for today, is still not that it is not Stalin, he is not even Andropov, and this is very sad. It is sad because in Russia, order can be brought only by a tough, somewhere even a very cruel hand, but only in any way. Otherwise, our people, including officials, do not understand, otherwise we have freedom of everything and everything, which means banal permissiveness.
          So the only friend of Russia, maybe only Russia itself, unless of course it understands itself!
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 7 December 2017 16: 02
            +1
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            What are friends of Russia? I always said that Russia never had, never and never will be friends!

            But this is an alarming symptom. If a person is unable to make friends with other people, then this is considered a mental abnormality. Maybe Russia should pay attention to itself? At least it’s strange to be proud that never had, never and never will be friends.
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 7 December 2017 16: 31
              12
              Hlavaty Today, 16:02 ↑ New
              But this is an alarming symptom. If a person is unable to make friends with other people, then this is considered a mental abnormality. Maybe Russia should pay attention to itself? At the very least, it’s strange to be proud of what has never been, never is, and never will be friends.
              A typical response is dill. In life, people can have friends; states do not. If this simple truth does not reach you wretched in any way, then this is purely your intimate problems. Or do you really believe that Ukraine has friends? fool
              1. Hlavaty
                Hlavaty 7 December 2017 23: 24
                +1
                Quote: Varyag_0711
                In life, people can have friends; states do not.

                A strange answer for a person under the flag of the USSR. These are the ideas of the times of the Soviet Union: “fraternal people”, “community of socialist countries”, “single family of Soviet republics”.
                You are inconsistent: if you raised the Soviet flag, then denying Soviet ideas is somehow incorrect.
            2. Hottabych
              Hottabych 9 December 2017 09: 03
              0
              Do you think the USA has many friends? Sincere friends?))) What kind of friendship can one talk about in politics? Nonsense! Well, if only about the friendship of Ukraine with the USA ... laughing
            3. Weyland
              Weyland 10 December 2017 19: 25
              0
              Quote: Hlavaty
              If a person is unable to make friends with other people, then this is considered a mental abnormality.


              Do not confuse people with states! States have no friends at all, and in principle, there are temporary allies!
      2. Sergey-svs
        Sergey-svs 7 December 2017 07: 27
        25
        Talks of corrupt Kremlin bureaucrats that without participating in the Olympics, domestic sport will die, and the flag is not so important - it's empty talk! negative Yes, and our sports “knights in white” are also good, they have already begun to line up for a neutral rag from the IOC! Only we can’t do anything with this betrayal, which is why it is disdainful in our hearts. sad Writers also say, “Ah so? !! Then I won’t look and cheer for those who went under a neutral flag!” Are you serious? Yes, they don’t give a shit about their homeland, and even more so for the fans, just like the oligarchs-officials from the Kremlin! fool They will all go there for themselves, but the truth is at our expense. It’s convenient, isn't it? request
        PS By the way, the whole GosKomSport, at our expense, will drive. With wives and their own, the so-called "Sacred Lionesses"! am
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 7 December 2017 07: 37
          10
          even logically calculate the steps: will we perform under a neutral flag? what's next? And then, if we win something, we will be deprived of medals in a year, and we will lose the right to challenge because we agreed to appear under a neutral flag. If you agree with the punishment means guilty
          1. dSK
            dSK 7 December 2017 14: 55
            +5
            Quote: aybolyt678
            what's next?

            The head of Chechnya, Ramzan Kadyrov, said that athletes registered in his republic would not compete at the Olympics in Pyeongchang with a neutral flag. He wrote about this in his Telegram channel. “It is important for Russians to fly under their own flag. We have our Motherland, we have our Fatherland! Not a single athlete with a Chechen registration will compete under a neutral flag. And we will honor those Chechen athletes who, by all criteria, had to get into the national team and go to the Olympics as winners! ” - wrote Kadyrov. “Politicians must compete with politicians, and athletes with competitors,” said the head of Chechnya. More details at RBC: December 6.12.2017, XNUMX.
        2. rkkasa xnumx
          rkkasa xnumx 7 December 2017 08: 59
          +6
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          our sports “knights in white” are also good, they have already begun to line up for a neutral rag from the IOC!

          Quote: Sergey-svs
          they don’t give a shit about their homeland, let alone the fans

          On your kamen, the meter of uroapatriotism began to roll off scale! Be careful please laughing
          By the way, do you yourself work only for the pride of NASHUELIKUYURDINA !!!, or all the same for the sake of a piece of bread for yourself and your loved ones?
          And further. Tell me honestly, when thanks to foreigners, Russia won the Sochi Olympics, did you rejoice, or did you still have some doubts about the success of that “our” victory?
          For example, I was immediately dissatisfied and annoyed by the huge participation of foreign athletes and specialists in that victory. I remember the minuses then grab aaaal laughing
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          Only we can’t do anything with this betrayal, that's why it’s so disgusting at heart

          Start with yourself. Buy only our products, only our clothes, household appliances, car, etc. On vacation in the godly foreign countries - not a foot! Only support your ruble.
          1. BecmepH
            BecmepH 7 December 2017 11: 23
            +3
            Quote: rkkasa 81
            Start with yourself. Buy only our products, only our clothes, household appliances, car, etc. On vacation in the godly foreign countries - not a foot! Only support your ruble.

            I do so, and in part
            Quote: Sergey-svs
            our sports “knights in white” are also good, they have already begun to line up for a neutral rag from the IOC!
            Quote: Sergey-svs
            they don’t give a shit about their homeland, let alone the fans
            I agree with Sergey.
            You criticized Sergey-svs, and you concealed your thought. Do not share?
            1. rkkasa xnumx
              rkkasa xnumx 7 December 2017 14: 44
              0
              Quote: BecmepH
              I do so

              Honestly, I doubt it very much. Because of our products-equipment-cars and other things, or not at all, or they are only partly ours.
              Quote: BecmepH
              concealed their thoughts. Do not share?

              In my opinion, I expressed my thoughts quite clearly. What exactly is not clear to you?
              1. BecmepH
                BecmepH 8 December 2017 05: 46
                +2
                Quote: rkkasa 81
                Honestly, I doubt it very much. Because both our products-equipment-cars and other things, or not at all, or they are only partly ours

                This is because you sincerely think that everything Western is better than ours. I drive our cars and it does not depress me. I don’t have to writhe in front of anyone and I don’t have to prove anything to anyone. I live within my means and it does not kill me.
                But it’s funny when people climb out of their skin to show everyone that he also has a “foreign car”))). I will not crucify further, since I’m sure that you, personally, will prove with foam at your mouth that everything foreign is better. Well, the flag is white in your hands.
                1. rkkasa xnumx
                  rkkasa xnumx 8 December 2017 07: 53
                  +1
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  you sincerely think that everything western is better than ours

                  The problem is not our choice - not ours, but the fact that this choice is practically nonexistent.
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  I drive our cars

                  Our cars? Muscovites and Volga are no longer there, but VAZ cars, they are far from ours.
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  You, personally, will still prove with foam at the mouth that everything foreign is better.

                  Well, why do you blatantly shit?
                  Quote: BecmepH
                  white flag in your hands

                  And you are rainbow laughing
                  1. BecmepH
                    BecmepH 8 December 2017 09: 40
                    +1
                    Quote: rkkasa 81
                    Only support your ruble.
                    This is your key phrase.
                    What I am doing
                    And you are rainbow
                    Yes, you are preoccupied, my dear. When the arguments end, they begin to insult. Just don’t write that they say: “Where are the insults”, “Yes, you misunderstood ...” Ride on Logan (well, or KIA), go to Turkey (well, or Egypt), and you will be oppressed ...)) )
                    I will not discuss further with you. I don’t learn anything new, and ... it’s boring to communicate with such
                    1. rkkasa xnumx
                      rkkasa xnumx 8 December 2017 09: 51
                      0
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      What I am doing

                      You're lying. Because you (and all of us) do not have the ability to support only your own with the ruble. For one simple reason - this is almost nonexistent.
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      When arguments end, they begin to insult

                      Quote: BecmepH
                      I’m sure that you personally will prove with foam at your mouth that everything foreign is better. Well, the flag is white in your hands

                      That is, about the lack of arguments, and insults, this primarily concerns you.
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      Further I will not discuss with you

                      Thank God.
                    2. Hottabych
                      Hottabych 9 December 2017 09: 19
                      0
                      Quote: BecmepH
                      I will not discuss further with you. I don’t learn anything new, and ... it’s boring to communicate with such


                      Correctly,! Do not touch the troll - it will not stink. On such sites, it is necessary that not a person selects the flag for themselves, but determines this automatically.
        3. pavelty
          pavelty 7 December 2017 13: 37
          +1
          You - well done, all branded (officials from the sport is good). But now, let’s say I am an athlete, I’ve been preparing for the Olympics for 4 years and I have a real chance to win gold / silver / bronze. Why should I listen to Sergey and not go to competitions? Even if in such a situation, I can put on a scarf with Russian symbols at the opening, I can sing the anthem at the awards ceremony, no one can forbid me to do this. So do not need too much dirt you traitors everywhere I look.
          1. Starik72
            Starik72 7 December 2017 15: 34
            +3
            pawlenty. And you guarantee that you will not be quarreled with during the performance, they can find hundreds of reasons for your disqualification. And worst of all, they can find dope in your samples, and try to prove that you are white and fluffy. And this was with our athletes, even then when there was no discrimination, and exclusion from the Olympics.
          2. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 7 December 2017 18: 37
            +1
            Quote: pavlentiy
            bronze why should I listen to Sergey and not go to the competition?

            You can turn to Kadyrov, Putin, with a request to organize international competitions, record the results of records and receive indecently large prizes, at the expense of the Russian Olympic Fund
        4. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 7 December 2017 15: 08
          +2
          Quote: Sergey-svs
          They will all go there for themselves, but the truth is at our expense. It’s convenient, isn't it?
          PS By the way, the whole GosKomSport, at our expense, will drive. With wives and their own, the so-called "Sacred Lionesses"!

          Well done! Plus + 100500
    3. Finches
      Finches 7 December 2017 08: 10
      +8
      Eun can support Russia and generally cancel the Olympics ....
    4. To be or not to be
      To be or not to be 7 December 2017 09: 12
      +3
      It’s not the enemies who betray - the "friends" betray.
      "If a friend is suddenly
      And not a friend, and not an enemy, but - so ... "VS Vysotsky
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 7 December 2017 13: 54
      +5
      Russia is remembered only in the case when you need to either get a loan at a percentage of zero point zero, or write off a previously received loan.

      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 7 December 2017 18: 45
        0
        The amount is of course decent, but the question arises - how much is there undenominated rubles ??? it turns out that 7800000000000/25 years = 312000000000 billion rubles and divide this into 140 million = 2 thousand 228 rubles each Russian lost per year. Many or few?? I think it’s not critical.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 7 December 2017 19: 44
          +2
          Quote: aybolyt678
          Many or few?? I think it’s not critical.

          Add the amount of STEALED and taken out abroad money, and this amount is ten times more than this ...
          1. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 7 December 2017 22: 01
            0
            Quote: NEXUS
            Add the amount of STEALED and taken out abroad money, and this amount is ten times more than this ...

            forgiven debts is the purchased loyalty of "friends". This does not apply to the economic conditions, the accumulation and preservation of Capital, which the government should create, protecting the domestic market with production. Our government was carried away by attracting investment in the banking sector, which does not create national wealth but only redistributes it. Forgiven debts and capital outflows are two different things.
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 7 December 2017 22: 05
              +3
              Quote: aybolyt678
              forgiven debts is the purchased loyalty of "friends"

              I’ll answer you like this ...
              1. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 7 December 2017 22: 15
                +2
                Quote: NEXUS
                I’ll answer you like this ...

                1. I'm not a thug, not a thief
                2. I don’t know about whores, but there are clearly fewer of them
                3. bureaucrats have always been
                4. oddly enough, the roads are better
                5. This year I bought a 2-story unfinished, I earned money without rolling back
                6. I am against smoking and mate. There are fewer of them.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 7 December 2017 22: 19
                  +4
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  1. I'm not a thug, not a thief
                  2. I don’t know about whores, but there are clearly fewer of them
                  3. bureaucrats have always been
                  4. oddly enough, the roads are better
                  5. This year I bought a 2-story unfinished, I earned money without rolling back
                  6. I am against smoking and mate. There are fewer of them.

                  Honor and praise.
                  1. aybolyt678
                    aybolyt678 7 December 2017 22: 59
                    +1
                    Quote: NEXUS
                    Honor and praise.

                    Thank! touched.
                    1. NEXUS
                      NEXUS 7 December 2017 23: 01
                      +3
                      Quote: aybolyt678
                      Thank! touched.

                      If you are an official, I’ll say it bluntly, you’ll say the endangered species of such an official in Russia. And this is the truth of life, no matter how bitter it may sound. Take from the traffic cop, to the minister and this is scary.
                2. Weyland
                  Weyland 10 December 2017 19: 30
                  +1
                  Quote: aybolyt678
                  bureaucrats have always been

                  The question is their quantity and corruption. Parkinson’s law rules: many states collapsed precisely because of the overly prolific bureaucracy and, as a result, the growth of the tax burden!
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 7 December 2017 06: 35
    27
    We have a whole chairman of the Olympic Committee announces that the IOC’s decision “has positive points.”


    I completely agree with Alexei Volodin ... I haven’t felt such shame for our officials for a long time ... it’s shameful to behave before blackmailers that you should respect yourself below the baseboard ... lost all confidence in sports officials of RUSSIA ... not only that they caved in before the crooks so they also want to make us do it ... pah disgrace.
    I can’t support all this ... it’s a shame for the state.
    1. Vasya Vassin
      Vasya Vassin 7 December 2017 06: 46
      +7
      Just a universal disgrace.
    2. forester
      forester 7 December 2017 07: 40
      +9
      Quote: The same Lech
      We have a whole chairman of the Olympic Committee announces that the IOC’s decision “has positive points.”


      I completely agree with Alexei Volodin ... I haven’t felt such shame for our officials for a long time ... it’s shameful to behave before blackmailers that you should respect yourself below the baseboard ... lost all confidence in sports officials of RUSSIA ... not only that they caved in before the crooks so they also want to make us do it ... pah disgrace.
      I can’t support all this ... it’s a shame for the state.

      But I don’t feel shame for them - I’m censoring to put it mildly, I am drinking such a big personal dislike that I can’t even eat. If the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company will keep the promise, and will not broadcast these games, then this will be, though weak, but a consolation, at least for me.
    3. krops777
      krops777 7 December 2017 07: 45
      +6
      I completely agree with Alexei Volodin ... I haven’t felt such shame for our officials for a long time ... it’s shameful to behave before blackmailers that you should respect yourself below the baseboard ... lost all confidence in sports officials of RUSSIA ... not only that they caved in before the crooks so they also want to make us do it ... pah disgrace.



      Moreover, they are trying to pay us 15 million. green for an alleged additional test of doping samples, and something tells me that we will pay.
    4. BecmepH
      BecmepH 7 December 2017 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: The same Lech
      We have a whole chairman of the Olympic Committee announces that the IOC’s decision “has positive points.”


      I completely agree with Alexei Volodin ... I haven’t felt such shame for our officials for a long time ... it’s shameful to behave before blackmailers that you should respect yourself below the baseboard ... lost all confidence in sports officials of RUSSIA ... not only that they caved in before the crooks so they also want to make us do it ... pah disgrace.
      I can’t support all this ... it’s a shame for the state.

      Only when this movement began and when DAM agreed that we “have problems with this”, I realized that the government had betrayed our sport and there would be no struggle.
      With these words he "posted" ... Not posted, was not. I posted it.
    5. Lexus
      Lexus 7 December 2017 14: 16
      +4
      "They appointed the hedgehog to be the director of the Christmas tree bazaar on New Year's Eve. But he got drunk and chopped birch trees instead of Christmas trees. A fox comes.
      - Hedgehog, sell the tree.
      - Take a birch and get out!
      - The birch does not fit, at least give a pine.
      - Okay, pine trees, take a birch and get out! "

      This is what I mean - apparently, the positive point is that they allowed at least a pine ... tongue
      1. dSK
        dSK 7 December 2017 16: 34
        +2
        "The IOC statement says that no member of the Russian Ministry of Sports will be invited to the Games."
    6. Dimy4
      Dimy4 7 December 2017 18: 21
      +1
      I completely agree with Alexei Volodin ... I haven’t felt such shame for our officials for a long time ... it’s shameful to behave before blackmailers that you should respect yourself below the baseboard ... lost all confidence in sports officials of RUSSIA ... not only that they caved in before the crooks so they also want to make us do it ... pah disgrace.
      I can’t support all this ... it’s a shame for the power

      And our Guarantor is not at all up to the mark in this situation. To be honest, I did not expect such a reaction from him to all this ...
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 7 December 2017 06: 36
    13
    Brezhnev bought a cut for a suit - no one is sewing: you are so great, I won’t succeed, there will not be enough material. He went through all the tailors and got to Georgia.
    And there they measured it at once, come and try on tomorrow.
    Comes, tried on and asked: why didn’t anyone take it, and you sewed it!
    And he answered: you are great in Moscow, and here it is. trifle! Will you measure the cap?
  4. Knowing
    Knowing 7 December 2017 06: 36
    12
    Your True Aleksey, no matter how bitter it is, all the so-called "allies and brothers" live on the principle of "own shirt closer" and remember the greatness of Russia only when Russia needs to beg for something, beg ... hi
    1. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 7 December 2017 06: 51
      +7
      Quote: Knowing
      all the so-called "allies and brothers" live on the principle of "own shirt closer" and remember the greatness of Russia only when Russia needs to beg for something, beg ...

      I support Russia and I will not watch the “Olympics” - has it become easier? wink
      How do you represent this support? Refuse due to solidarity from such "Olympiads"? With two hands in favor! But the counter-question is - Russia refused to participate in competitions, for example, kayaking and canoeing, when ours were disqualified (as is already known, erroneously and to a greater extent intentionally)? wink
      That's the same. Therefore, you need to express yourself more carefully yes I’ll answer for my colleagues that the vast majority of those with whom I work are on the side of Russia hi
      1. Knowing
        Knowing 7 December 2017 06: 58
        +7
        I express myself very carefully; I will try more accessible- it is not just about the citizens of countries, but about the leadership of the "friendly" countries now, and earlier the "fraternal republics". I hope I understood my idea clearly ... repeat
    2. rkkasa xnumx
      rkkasa xnumx 7 December 2017 09: 21
      +4
      Quote: Knowing
      all the so-called "allies and brothers" live on the principle of "own shirt closer" and remember the greatness of Russia only when Russia needs to beg for something, beg ...

      I will tell you a secret - friendship, that is always a mutually beneficial relationship, especially when it comes to inter-state relations. Just like that, without getting anything in return, no one will ever help anyone. Including our country. Before providing assistance or a service to someone, the country's leadership always considers what it can receive in exchange for this assistance.
      PS By the way, you can experiment - refuse your friend help several times, and see what happens to your friendship.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 December 2017 07: 00
    +7
    I agree with the author. The so-called "friends" express their "friendship only by asking Russia for help (economic, financial, military), as soon as it comes to support at least in the foreign political arena, then there is silence and eyes to the ground. Of course there is no hope for such friends, but where if you get away - it’s necessary to maintain normal relations.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 December 2017 08: 00
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      The so-called "friends" express their "friendship only by asking Russia for help
      YES? And how many times did Russia throw potential friends and allies? They did not defend Serbia from NATO in the 99th, although there were opportunities, only an order was needed. Iran was thrown twice with the supply of weapons, which he honestly paid for (in 1995 and in 2010). They did not support Libya in the 2011th (although Gaddafi has always treated Russia well and was a potential weapons client). Voted at the UN FOR sanctions against the DPRK (which supported us with the Crimea). Closed the base in Cuba and Vietnam (you see unprofitable).
      1. Krasnyiy komissar
        Krasnyiy komissar 7 December 2017 09: 07
        +4
        This is our misfortune. We wish to have allies, but we ourselves surrender them in favor of the mattresses. The USSR fought with the United States around the world, expanded its sphere of influence, several times almost reached the nuclear war (Cuba, the Berlin crisis, the Korean War), and Russia cannot keep the sphere of influence even at its borders. The policy of surrendering everything and everything continues, which is clearly seen in yesterday’s speech by the GDP. He publicly pleaded Russia's guilt to the IOC and refused to boycott OI-18. What does it mean ? Yes, I had to get out of the IOC back in the 16th year after Rio! Caved in - raked out! As history shows, our leadership stubbornly does not want to learn from their past mistakes, but offers us all to pay and repent, repent and pay.
  6. Sofa General
    Sofa General 7 December 2017 07: 34
    12
    Horses mixed in a bunch, people ...
    So, the author ... drink some water and let's start ...
    1. Voting at the UN. Only recently, several have surfaced as China voted with Russia. Are they playing on the same field? Undoubtedly. Teamed up to fight a common enemy? Yes, but everyone pushes the other forward, they say you start, and we will support ..
    2. And what kind of support do you want? “Kosovo is Serbia” - remember, I hope? From here and dance. Non-recognition of Kosovo as a state is also in our interests. You, the author, must clearly understand: any politician, if it is beneficial for him, will personally, with his hands and teeth, strip off the skin of infants, for the sake of political dividends. If it will be other people's babies - even better, but if not, then their own will fit. Right now, the role of such a "baby" was Russian sport. It offends us. I do not argue. But let’s turn around the situation - Belarus or China came to an example in such a situation - do you think that support from the political "elite" of Russia would be voiced? Three times "Ha!".
    3. "Better to die standing than to live on your knees!" Very beautiful words by Dolores Ibaruri, but alas, these are her last words. Applying them to the current situation are words for domestic use when patriotic heroes are needed. We recall the greatness, assign fathers / grandfathers, and so on. In short, when the people must voluntarily and with the songs make the next “sacrifice” - be it the confidence in the elections (all the same, the real results fall on the table of the popularly elected) or go die for one or another idea.
    Only one subtlety ... "Elite" does not rank itself as a "sacrificial" people. And Putin's Russia is a good example. Sharks eat each other. Sechin gobbled Ulyukaev. And to which of the locksmiths / electricians / engineers it became easier to live from this? ANYONE.
    The same is true in sports, and in another "industry."
    You, man, are needed by the state only as a sheep that carries wool, and ultimately meat. There are chain dogs that watch so that the wolves do not gnaw the herd very much. But the same dogs are fed with the bones of the same “lambs” that the shepherds ate.
    I summarize. You will not wait for “world support” until it is PERSONALLY profitable for one or another state. "Gratitude is a canine feeling," it seems to have been said. The official under capitalism: man is friend to man comrade and feed. He has only personal. And while this “Personal” is located there, and not here, he will not lift a finger for the HERE and FOR THE USE.
    The cry of the author’s soul is understandable, but it is akin to a child’s insult - the realities are slightly different.
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 9 December 2017 11: 13
      0
      Quote: Sofa General
      The "elite" does not rank itself as a "sacrificial" people.

      Quote: Sofa General
      The "elite" does not rank itself as a "sacrificial" people.

      This is her great mistake, however, they began to “open her eyes” with the arrest of Suleiman Kerimov, and in February 2018, a big safari for this “undead people” will be announced
      1. Sofa General
        Sofa General 9 December 2017 15: 01
        +1
        The saddest thing is that the safari will be announced not with us, but there ...
  7. Alone
    Alone 7 December 2017 07: 43
    +4
    The guarantor said that he would support the athletes who decided to perform under a white rag. What flag, what dignity of the nation, what anthem ... Yes, spit the elite on everything. And what international respect you can talk about after that. There is nothing to blame our potential allies for yourself We do not respect ourselves.
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 7 December 2017 10: 16
      +3
      Ugly! The President did not say that, re-read.
      The meaning of his remark: free will (and then we will give an estimate). Yes, and it is impossible to prohibit.
  8. Nonna
    Nonna 7 December 2017 07: 47
    +3
    I will support the author. Although he began carefully with the Allies. Well-wishers can only be found among ordinary people, everything else - geopolitical interests, loans, the firm hand of the master for Aboriginal elites. Therefore, the best friends of Russia have always been, are and will be - the army and navy. In the minds of all bloggers, analysts, and journalists, there is complete strife - what to write about after such a treacherous kick of Putin. The Leninist sarcastic - "The circle of revolutionaries is narrow. They are terribly far from the people" - this is precisely about the capitalist liberalistic offshore elite of Russia, who hates the Russian people to hiccups. They betrayed, betray and will sell, and crawl on their knees and repent before the West. Now there is a confrontation between the people and fascist liberals and thieves who seized the country's key posts and national resources. Do we already understand with whom Putin?
    1. Victor N
      Victor N 7 December 2017 10: 35
      +2
      Putin said: Did not say:
      1. We will not boycott; 1. send a team under the white flag;
      2. Athletes let them decide for themselves. 2. Praise for the performance under the white
      flag.
      What's wrong?
      I will despise those who go under the flag of others.
      I’m only afraid that they will finance the traitors.
      I am convinced that it is impossible to finance sports (actually show business) from the state budget.
      The state does not receive either prestige or political additional arguments from sporting victories: despite sporting achievements, some IOC (!) Was not afraid to offend the country. Well, Trump or Merkel will not remember any Olympic medals.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 9 December 2017 11: 16
        0
        Quote: Victor N
        I will despise those who go under the flag of others.

        And it will be as it was with the scientists Novosiliev and Game, who discovered graphene, they immediately remembered that they were kind of compatriots, there Victor An was going to speak under various neutral flags, and if he took the gold he would immediately , weathervane is, from the absence of his ...
  9. Greenwood
    Greenwood 7 December 2017 07: 51
    +8
    First of all, the criterion of a great power is not even the number of nuclear warheads. He - in the ability to protect his citizens - under any conditions, in any "geopolitical" weather.
    And he is in a decent standard of living, high salaries for civil servants, in low unemployment, in the development of infrastructure, culture, science, education, the same sport. He is in support of pensioners, large families, orphans, the disabled, state employees. He is at low credit rates, in affordable housing, in support of small and medium enterprises. He is in good roads, flowers in flower beds and clean porches in the end. He is confident in tomorrow.

    Why I won’t go to vote for Putin. It is precisely because of his 17 years in power that he and his team did not provide any of the above in the country. There was a lot of chatter. There were annual sessions "communication with the people." There were pathos from the stands. There were endless promises, etc. etc. But in the end ....
    1. Knowing
      Knowing 7 December 2017 08: 06
      +2
      Do you know a place where, [i] decent living standards, high salaries for civil servants, and low unemployment, developed infrastructure, culture, science, education, medicine and the same sport. Where there is decent support for pensioners, low credit rates, affordable housing, good roads, flowers in flower beds and clean porches and there is absolutely no criminal element and corruption in power in the end. . [/ i] ..- show me on the map where this Paradise is on Earth, where He, the notorious Eden ... Doubts take me that you can do it .. Blah blah ... and nothing more.
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 7 December 2017 08: 13
        +5
        Quote: Knowing
        and there is absolutely no criminal element and corruption in power in the end. .
        Why are you twisting my phrase? I did not write this. Corruption in power and crime are in any country, in one form or another. The main thing is the scale of this disaster. Which in Russia are much ahead of the United States, Europe, and most of the developed countries of Asia.
        Quote: Knowing
        this Paradise on Earth, where He, the notorious Eden
        No one spoke about paradise, but most Western countries to one degree or another provide citizens with the conditions I have listed.
        Quote: Knowing
        Doubts take me that you can do it .. Blah blah ... and nothing more.
        Of course under the force. I was recently in Japan, as an example: there the normal rate on a bank loan is on average 1,8%. More than 2-4% is already robbery. When we said about ~ 20% in Russia, the poor Japanese turned pale and staggered.
        1. Knowing
          Knowing 7 December 2017 08: 38
          +1
          Yeah, i.e. live well everywhere except Russia, by the way, which means "... most Western countries to one degree or another provide citizens with the conditions I have listed ..."- more specifically, please regret which countries and what is the point ... And then everything is too general for you: it’s less there, but it’s good there, but in Russia, EVERYTHING is just disgusting ... laughing They just forgot to remember about perestroika and the 90s, the collapse of the USSR and the constant pressure from the West on Russia ... tongue
        2. Victor N
          Victor N 7 December 2017 10: 40
          0
          Both me and you want it to be better than in Japan.
          So let's work!
          And do not really believe what they say about themselves.
        3. your1970
          your1970 7 December 2017 12: 49
          0
          exactly at the moment most welfare American people - the USA fought in Vietnam.Troops withdrawn from Vietnam- the oil crisis happened to the American people stupidly.
          Judging by your remark - the rulers of the United States did everything right - when the United States fought in Vietnam, and the welfare of the American people grew ????
      2. sa-ag
        sa-ag 9 December 2017 11: 17
        0
        Quote: Knowing
        Do you know a place where decent living standards, high salaries for civil servants, and low unemployment, developed infrastructure, culture, science, education, medicine and the same sport. Where there is decent support for pensioners, low credit rates, affordable housing, good roads, flowers in flower beds and clean porches and there is absolutely no criminal element and corruption in power in the end. ...- show me on the map where this Paradise is on Earth, where He, the notorious Eden ... Doubts take me that you can do it .. Blah blah ... and nothing more.

        South Korea, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand ...
  10. Turkestan
    Turkestan 7 December 2017 08: 02
    +3
    It is necessary to support the proposals of Zyuganov. In exchange for the prohibited RUSSIAN BANNER, use the RED SOVIET BANNER at the Olympic Games. Russia is the successor of the USSR and therefore has the right to use the symbols of the USSR
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 7 December 2017 08: 14
      +2
      IOC will not allow with a probability of 99,9%.
  11. parusnik
    parusnik 7 December 2017 08: 11
    +2
    Russia has no allies and enemies, only partners .. And a partner, he is not a friend and not an enemy, but ... Today, we’re having a drink of juice, tomorrow we’ll thump together ..
  12. Conductor
    Conductor 7 December 2017 09: 21
    0
    What kind of support is that? We are on our own. But debts should not be written off.
  13. BAI
    BAI 7 December 2017 09: 41
    +5
    If they did not bend in Brazil, there would be no problems with Korea.
  14. avt
    avt 7 December 2017 10: 09
    +2
    Who has the courage to support Russia?
    Stupid question ! Of course USA!
    US Permanent Representative to the United Nations Nikki Haley is not sure that the American team should play at the Winter Olympics in Pyeongchang. According to her, so far this is an “open question”.
    “I think everything will depend on what will happen in the DPRK. We must carefully monitor this, the situation is changing every day, ”- quotes Hailey Fox News.
    Brothers forever! bully
  15. Overlock
    Overlock 7 December 2017 10: 32
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    if only not for me, my hut from the edge ...

    here we compare our achievements with China and wonder how everything moves there, even we built our own aircraft carrier.
    And if to the depth of the issue, 40% of investment in the Chinese economy is the money of the Chinese themselves.
    We will answer the question ourselves: who is ready to invest their savings in the Russian economy? I think that this percentage will be insignificant - after deceiving people by the leadership of the USSR, everyone thinks, there are no fools. We do not believe that those in power will return our money, and will not steal, as this is happening all over. So it turns out, each for himself. Does the state guarantee free medical assistance? Education? A decent retirement? While the state is doing everything so that we do not believe it
  16. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 7 December 2017 11: 23
    0
    But who is to blame for this? You yourself are to blame.
  17. Egorovich
    Egorovich 7 December 2017 11: 34
    +2
    If the official of the Russian Federation Zhukov publicly apologizes for the mistakes made during the Sochi Olympics, then you only need to keep silent about Russia's friends. They are simply not there. There are many double-dealing friends, and true friends.
  18. KP8789
    KP8789 7 December 2017 12: 35
    +2
    None of the "friendly" foreign elites will declare solidarity with pure Russian athletes and will not decide to refuse to participate in the Olympic Games in relation to their athletes.

    Volodin Alexei, did Russia refuse to participate in the Olympic Games, or announced a boycott of the games? There was none of this. Moreover, the head of the Russian Olympic Committee, Zhukov, apologized to the IOC for violating anti-doping rules. Putin, too, did not stand aside and admitted that we ourselves were partly to blame for this, because we gave a reason for this. So what kind of solidarity do you expect? Do you want friendly countries to refuse to participate in the Olympics and, according to the rules of the IOC, be deprived of the right to participate in future Olympics. So it may be necessary for Russia to decide first, and then wait for any other actions from others.
    And do not worry about Russian athletes. They will go to the Olympics and will perform without a flag, anthem and in a gray robe. They have a desire to go and they will go under any circumstances.
  19. Dr_engie
    Dr_engie 7 December 2017 12: 46
    +3
    We have one ally - PMR.
  20. Altona
    Altona 7 December 2017 14: 59
    +2
    Quote: aszzz888
    a friend in need is a friend indeed

    ---------------------------
    If Putin does not declare a boycott of the IOC, then where to next? Further, everyone still has the same philistine position, "each for himself." Two days before the fascist verdict of the IOC, he said that he “loves sports, not alcohol.” The phrase is thoughtful in itself. What do you think, how long would the IOC Executive Committee sit if the United States were declared a neutral country? Probably the entire IOC Executive Committee would have already been handcuffed on the floor of the S-130 transporter and flew to Guantanamo.
  21. Altona
    Altona 7 December 2017 15: 00
    +4
    Quote: Egorovich
    If an official of the Russian Federation Zhukov publicly apologizes for the mistakes made during the Sochi Olympics

    -------------------------------
    The funny thing is that the Swiss laboratory, which was accredited in Sochi.
  22. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 7 December 2017 16: 11
    +3
    No one has a desire to support Russia and it cannot be. So when you walk down the street and see a drunk swaying, especially if you know that his children are suffering, and he is drinking money, who wants to support? Yes, no one, except those who want to get into their pocket to profit from a freebie.
    So it is in interstate relations: Russia is a self-sufficient country, which must be strong, stand firmly on its feet. The very existence of which should be a bastion of the world. Why on earth should those who cripple themselves be supported.
    It's not even about OI, but why Russophobia is so successful. And you see who represents the face of the Russian Federation abroad. If you think that Prokhorov in Courchevel or Karimov is respected, you are deeply mistaken.
    So, when my emotions about OI calmed down, I thought: for a story with doping, you can burn with shame, the country is disgraced !!!. Yes, nothing is perfect. But smart does not rush to the worst. It makes sure that the mosquito does not undermine the nose. And then they recruited to the service do not understand someone and here is the result. They do not know how to work and do not want and were not going to.
  23. Awaz
    Awaz 7 December 2017 18: 58
    +2
    sense to support - if the entire political elite is corrupt, like most athletes ...
  24. AshiSolo
    AshiSolo 7 December 2017 22: 13
    0
    Of course, one can appeal to the phrase that Russia has only two allies: the army and the navy. But the army and navy, it turns out, not all problems can be resolved.


    You gave it well now. Only in a puddle. All questions can be resolved. Only at least one steel ball does not interfere. And better both. And when they are not there, everyone is to blame little by little.

    And if, now, it would be on the heads of the “moderate” in Syria, and better on their friends from across the ocean, a couple of cast-iron gifts fell from the clear sky - and there would be no reason to discuss all this. They would instantly decide that meldonium is a myth, and our sport is the most honest and sickly in the world.

    The merry fellow only neighs and threatens with a finger, and the mattresses are already written and brochures are being issued. But the hungry proletarians are not to blame for their bureaucrats ...
  25. ship
    ship 8 December 2017 20: 12
    0
    The President of Belarus also believes that every athlete MUST go to the Olympics “under any flag” if he wishes.
    See https://news.mail.ru/politics/31899454/?frommail=
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  26. Radikal
    Radikal 8 December 2017 21: 01
    0
    The author of the article - respect, and respect! laughing
  27. panzerfaust
    panzerfaust 9 December 2017 12: 04
    0
    But doping was still consumed. And now we wonder how that is! Mutko with Zhukov are the main culprits in the removal of our team. They knew everything, but took no action. The main victory. In general, we managed it to the fullest ... And do not spray your shit on others. And whoever goes, God be their judge, the majority lives and trains in the USA, they don’t care what flag.