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US and IOC dug up a sports war tomahawk, which will return to them a boomerang

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Olympiad-80, Olympiad-84, Kosovo, South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Crimea, banning the participation of the Russian Olympic team ... There are no mistakes in this series. All events are interconnected and have one thing in common - all these are consequences of the cold wars between the USA and Russia (USSR).

Do you know what the boomerang principle is? This is when the problem created by the “partner” returns and hits you on the crown. Remember how the United States launched the Kosovo recognition process in February 2008? Within six months, they received Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and six years later, Crimea. Yesterday, IOC officials, under pressure from the United States, suspended the Russian team from participating in the Olympics. How will this turn out in the future? And let's remember history, because all this has already happened, and not so long ago ...

Olympics-80



Olympiad-80 was an image project for the leadership of the USSR. Never before has the Union accepted competitions of such a high level, and the country's leadership did everything to ensure that this Olympiad is remembered by the world for a long time. And she did remember.

At first everything went fine. A lot of sports facilities were erected, infrastructure facilities were rebuilt, new trade relations were established, etc.

Even Coca-Cola temporarily allowed into the Soviet market.

The country was preparing for the holiday, which spoiled the United States. In response to the strengthening of the military power of the USSR and against the background of its great diplomatic successes (including the extension of the Urengoy-Pomary-Uzhgorod gas pipeline to Western Europe), Washington decided to launch a counter-attack to isolate Moscow.

And just one of the first demarches was the refusal of the US team to go to Moscow for the Olympic Games. Their example was followed by the teams of 64 of the allied countries of Washington.

Agree, today we have a very similar situation. Well, very similar ...

Washington found the occasion easily. It was stated that thereby a protest was expressed against the actions of Moscow in Afghanistan, although after still fresh in the memory of Vietnam, it all looked like a mockery of common sense.

And now, even if it is not said out loud, everyone understands that it’s not about doping, but about losing Syria, losing to Ukraine and preparing for the construction of Nord Stream-2.

US and IOC dug up a sports war tomahawk, which will return to them a boomerang


It is noteworthy that while The Coca-Cola Company refused to boycott the 80 Olympics in Moscow. Salvage still triumphs over evil.

In response, the Soviet leadership did not send its athletes to the 84 Olympiad in Los Angeles. Moscow followed the example of almost all of its allies. At the peak of the United States, they held their game "Friendship-84".



Thus, two consecutive cycles, one or the other, the strongest team of the planet (together with the allies) ignored the Olympics for political reasons. As a result, everyone began to wonder: what will happen to the Olympic movement further? Are the ideas laid down at the end of the XIX century really destined to die?

Then everything was saved by detente and the Goodwill conciliatory games, which were conceived by Ted Turner as unifying competitions. The first such games were held in Moscow in 1986 year.

After four events, they were canceled as unnecessary.

It seemed that the lesson had been learned, and no one would ever return to it. But we were wrong. As soon as the world smelled of new cold war, Washington again decided to resort to this old method of pressure on Russia.

Formally, the doping samples are to blame, but we are perfectly aware that this is just a beautiful and convenient excuse, and nothing more ... The Kremlin’s policy is to blame, Ukraine, Syria, and much more.

And even a little gas pipeline "Nord Stream-2".

Kosovo Precedent

In general, the policy of double standards, which, at first glance, seems to be effective and win-win, has many pitfalls. Remember the story of Yugoslavia, which ended with the Kosovo precedent? Who in the middle or even the end of 1990 could have thought in Washington that their flawless plan to dismember this Balkan Russia would prove to be a huge flaw?



And the matter is not even in the fact that he did not succeed until the end; everything is just fine with this. Washington with the help of force “convinced” the world that it is time to abandon the old principle of inviolability of borders and replace it with a new one: the right of peoples to self-determination. The Albanians of Kosovo were the first to take advantage of this new “right” at the request of the United States, and behind them ... almost immediately the Ossetians and the Abkhazians of Georgia.

Moscow quickly agreed to play with the United States under the new rules. So much so that Washington has already reduced its teeth from this game, and they again recalled the inviolability of borders where they began to be beaten.

Foggy future

So, as we see, the game of double standards, like the politicization of sports, has never led to anything good.

Today the world again, like 30 years ago, has become bipolar. Isolating and making Russia a rogue state will no longer work. What will come up with Moscow? I think we will find out soon. I won’t guess, but I’ll say that, as a result, the initiators of the current scandal will look for ways out of their own problems. As the United States with its principle of "self-determination." And, as always in such cases, those who yesterday released the genie from the bottle, will wring their hands and say that they did not assume that this could all end.
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 6 December 2017 06: 47
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    He was at the Moscow Olympics, they provided security. I had to watch on the Olympic village at 1 checkpoint (entrance only for athletes, representatives of delegations and the IOC). Everything went at the highest level and the absence of the United States with satellites did not spoil the holiday. True, the Poles were already beginning to show off. "Fanta" was flooded and free, at that time a novelty.
    as a result, the initiators of the current scandal will look for ways out of the problem they created
    It is clear that the article was written a few days earlier. They have already found a way out for the first time. But with what it comes back to see them.
    1. Vard
      Vard 6 December 2017 07: 06
      14
      So the war ... only by other means ... it didn’t end ... In connection with this, the question is ... and we are not at all able to find out or clarify the consumption of doping in the West ... Or not only sports are covered by impotence officials but the rest ... the so-called special services ... otherwise the FSB was accused of substituting doping samples ... let them launder ...
      1. Dead duck
        Dead duck 6 December 2017 11: 22
        14
        Quote: Vard
        In this regard, the question ... and we are completely unable to find out or clarify the consumption of doping in the West ..

        "Pharmacy" in sports has long been striding by leaps and bounds (unlike us) and there they instantly come up with new drugs after the introduction of a ban on anything.
        The same “vada” in the states is sent to hell (especially when trying to test athletes in domestic competitions). request
      2. uskrabut
        uskrabut 6 December 2017 11: 41
        +9
        Quote: Vard
        Or impotence covers not only sports officials but also the rest ... the so-called special services


        So they have property in the USA, the kids live there! And suddenly they will take away property and money, but they will offend the kids. Here you have to be extremely careful, you can not drag on Uncle Sam.
      3. Nikolai Grek
        Nikolai Grek 10 December 2017 03: 26
        +2
        Quote: Vard
        In this regard, the question ... and we are completely unable to find out or clarify the consumption of doping in the West ...

        what what what you are not aware of the fact that they have there, mainly medalists who eat drugs with drugs officially by permission ??? !!!! fool wassat wassat laughing laughing laughing
    2. siberalt
      siberalt 6 December 2017 08: 08
      +1
      The IOC does not hide the fact that the USA pressed on it. And at the same time it was stated that he adhered to stay out of politics regarding the decision on the Russian Olympic team. According to the IOC, the entire Olympic movement after the Olympics will begin from scratch. I would like to believe that. The world is changing.
      1. Vend
        Vend 6 December 2017 10: 12
        +3
        Quote: siberalt
        The IOC does not hide the fact that the USA pressed on it. And at the same time it was stated that he adhered to stay out of politics regarding the decision on the Russian Olympic team. According to the IOC, the entire Olympic movement after the Olympics will begin from scratch. I would like to believe that. The world is changing.

        Start, disband the IOC and create a new organization.
        1. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 6 December 2017 10: 17
          +9
          2018 news: "According to the results of the Olympic Games in South Korean Pyeongchang, the Americans won all the gold medals ..."
    3. svp67
      svp67 6 December 2017 09: 07
      20
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It is clear that the article was written a few days earlier. They have already found a way out for the first time. But with what it comes back to see them.

      And yesterday I listened to this conference and realized that having such sports functionaries, you don’t need enemies. THEY WILL NOT RETURN ANYTHING, but will continue to “bleat” trying to save their places .. But I can already see from where the next blow will be dealt to us. The Olympics will take place, 1 to 10, that our flag will never appear there, and immediately after the attack of our football union and the football team will begin, in order to remove them from participation in the 2018 World Cup. And I won’t be surprised if at the home championship the Russian team will play under the “neutral” - white flag ...
      1. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 10: 04
        +7
        Yes, I agree with you, the saddest drawback of GDP is, in my opinion, that it never throws obvious clumsiness and incompetence out of the team, apparently trying to minimize current risks, but at the same time inflating medium-term problems to unimaginable proportions! Mutko ... do you need anything else besides the surname? He’s just an unintelligent, weak and cowardly person, and the deputy prime minister there ((He’s afraid to entrust the command to the stall, and he has been stealing our sport for more than 10 years ...
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 December 2017 10: 12
          +7
          Quote: Lev Bronsch
          Just a stupid, weak and cowardly person, and there also - Deputy Prime Minister ((

          Forgive me, but I do not agree with this characteristic of this person. He is smart, cunning and possesses sufficient skill and capabilities, which he proved during the struggle for the chair of the head of our football union. But, he also proved that he was greedy, not in moderation and that in the current conditions, he is clearly more harmful than helping, since his methods, they are more from the 90s and 0s, need to be acted differently now.
          Quote: Lev Bronsch
          The saddest drawback of GDP, in my opinion, is that it never throws out obvious clumsy and incompetent people from a team,

          For that they are TRIED to him personally. It is a pity, such an approach to personnel policy has never led to a good one. I really hope that I can already see and understand how the GDP will replace such “devotees with dumbasses” ... There is a “creeping” change of elites and the old, “Yeltsin” one, understands this very well.
          1. passing
            passing 6 December 2017 13: 58
            +2
            I really hope that I already see and understand how the GDP will replace such "devotees stupid" ...
            It seems that the replacement is on the same principle -personal devotion And what does this change know? Nobody knows. And Oreshkin, a professional?
          2. papas-57
            papas-57 6 December 2017 15: 42
            +3
            svp67 '' You will forgive, but I do not agree with this characteristic of this person. He is smart, cunning and possesses sufficient skill and capabilities, which he proved during the struggle for the chair of the head of our football union. '' You are sorry, but fighting for a chair and managing something is two big differences.
            1. svp67
              svp67 6 December 2017 19: 39
              0
              Quote: papas-57
              You are sorry, but fighting for a chair and managing something is two big differences.

              Yes, I agree, but this does not cancel what I said above ....
          3. Lev Bronsch
            Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 16: 18
            0
            I agreed with you and "plus"!
      2. uskrabut
        uskrabut 6 December 2017 11: 50
        +6
        Quote: svp67
        And I won’t be surprised if at the home championship the Russian team will play under the “neutral” - white flag ...

        If we exaggerate now and do not punish anyone criminally, then it will be so. It is necessary that a specific official of the IOC, or WADA, or something else there, be responsible for each of his words with his money, his freedom or his life. Without this, they will pour mud on Russia.
        1. svp67
          svp67 6 December 2017 12: 23
          +2
          Quote: uskrabut
          If we exaggerate now and do not punish anyone criminally, then it will be so. It is necessary that a specific official of the IOC, or WADA, or something else there, be responsible for each of his words with his money, his freedom or his life. Without this, they will pour mud on Russia.

          Criminally DOES NOT GET, according to our laws, they are clean, but ADMINISTRATIVE, forcing to pay, yes, it must be done. Any of our refusal of such actions only strengthens them in their rightness ...
          1. helmi8
            helmi8 7 December 2017 13: 03
            +2
            Quote: svp67
            Criminally not obtained, according to our laws, they are clean

            If desired, it will turn out - Art.307 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Deliberately false testimony, expert opinion, expert or incorrect translation
            http://www.consultant.ru/document/cons_doc_LAW_10
            699/e8cae43fbdb59a5be90789ce95775ae05e5a89f8/
            1. Dr_engie
              Dr_engie 10 December 2017 09: 28
              0
              They are not even in Russia - where does the Russian law?
        2. Viking
          Viking 7 December 2017 12: 07
          0
          And how is this really possible? Putting away beautiful slogans. To kill, kidnap and do other things? Well, nonsense. Despite the desire to certainly punish methods that smell like terrorism.
      3. Seryoga Gord
        Seryoga Gord 7 December 2017 12: 08
        0
        ... 1 to 10, that our flag will never appear there ... here you have a mistake - 1 to 100500, but about ... I already see and understood how the GDP will replace ... here it’s not a mistake, and a miscalculation, since he, as a strategist, is worse than Gorbi, because if you don’t cut the IOC sports now, then what kind of opposition to am and other nat can the Kremlin leaders talk about ...))
      4. Lexus
        Lexus 7 December 2017 22: 14
        +1
        hi Good afternoon!
        The last time I watched football, when our team lost to Portugal 1: 7. Since then, hardly anything has changed for the better in Russian football. I believe that if they lose under the white flag, it will be even better. And calmer. At the same time, let FIFA and the IOC take care of their fees.
      5. Alexander rr
        Alexander rr 11 December 2017 10: 19
        0
        Yes, “our” athletes are ready to perform under a Nazi label, and proudly hide the Russian flags in their crotch ...)))
    4. Yurasumy
      6 December 2017 09: 22
      0
      No, the article was written just as a result. And conclusions are drawn from the current situation.
    5. Alexander rr
      Alexander rr 11 December 2017 10: 13
      0
      And from the besieged Leningrad “our” athletes could also be allowed to leave without a flag and anthem ...? !!!
  2. dSK
    dSK 6 December 2017 06: 48
    22
    "The VGTRK press service confirmed its refusal to broadcast the 2018 Olympics without the Russian team. The VGTRK holding said its weighty word to the IOC. The Tsargrad television press service confirmed that the Olympic Games would not be broadcast without the Russian team. This decision is final and cannot be appealed. According to the absolute majority of experts and users of social networks, the IOC’s decision is to humiliate Russia. Our country should not appear under a neutral flag, let alone feed the IOC. " (The first Russian TV channel "Tsargrad" 23:09., 05.12.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX.) Will VGTRK Holding retain its position? hi
    1. Cxnumx
      Cxnumx 6 December 2017 07: 21
      11
      Quote: dsk
      Will VGTRK Holding retain its position?

      why shouldn't he save her? I'm more interested where similar statements from the First and the rest.
      1. BecmepH
        BecmepH 6 December 2017 07: 38
        +5
        Quote: K0
        Quote: dsk
        Will VGTRK Holding retain its position?

        why shouldn't he save her? I'm more interested where similar statements from the First and the rest.

        But the question is correct and not idle. Do you know why such a question arose? Yes, because there is no certainty (not at all) that they will keep their word. Quite the contrary ...
        1. Varyag_0711
          Varyag_0711 6 December 2017 09: 16
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          BecmepH Today, 07:38 AM ↑ New
          But the question is correct and not idle. Do you know why such a question arose? Yes, because there is no certainty (not at all) that they will keep their word. Quite the contrary ...
          Well, the All-Russian State Television and Radio Broadcasting Company may and will show integrity, although I doubt it, but waiting for something like this from the garbage can called "Channel One", headed by Creak Ernst, is already nonsense. A holy place, as they say, is never empty. There are many other television channels, including sports, that will probably want to take the place of VGTRK. The question here is not in them, the question is in us, because there will surely be those who will watch it all.
          I suggest that all not indifferent citizens not watch this "Olympiad" under any sauce, even on the Internet. Although this is not a great feat, but anyway, they will still receive part of the dough anyway, which means there is a sense.
          1. uskrabut
            uskrabut 6 December 2017 12: 00
            +1
            Quote: Varyag_0711
            I suggest that all not indifferent citizens not watch this "Olympiad" under any sauce, even on the Internet.


            And where are the athletes? Our officials are all about ......, and athletes should take a puff, although their job is to run fast, jump high and far, etc. etc. But the authorities should support and protect them, just as we did in power now and are observing it! Sorry, but my opinion is this: athletes must go to the Olympics, the state must provide them, but the officials didn’t go there, because this is their flight and they did not do their job. There should not be any Russian houses for bureaucratic drinking bouts. And when the athletes return with awards, here they will be awarded huge prizes and awarded with Russian medals, for example, “For Merit to the Fatherland”. And to trumpet about it in all the media on the whole planet, that these are Russian athletes and they played for their country!
            1. Varyag_0711
              Varyag_0711 6 December 2017 12: 47
              20
              uskrabut Today, 12:00 ↑
              And to trumpet about it in all the media on the whole planet, that these are Russian athletes and they played for their country!
              We can trumpet even in the media, even in the pipe, no one will hear us anyway. So we will be blowing to the end of the century. What "not smart person" will play by the rules, which change for the sake of themselves as they want? They want to find doping, they want to take away medals, without explanation and without evidence. Well, what's the point?
              I repeat, the only right decision, in my opinion, is Russia's withdrawal from the IOC with the cessation of any financing of international sports structures. The creation of a separate, independent of the Americans, sports movement of the type of "Goodwill Games."
              All the money saved on financing the IOC is allowed to develop sports in the country. Mudko, Zhukov and other functionaries from sports to life imprisonment. All coaches to return to Russia, without the right to train foreign athletes. Who is against, goodbye to the deprivation of Russian citizenship and any opportunity to earn money in Russia. After that, maybe someone has their turnip combed, and maybe not just a turnip.
            2. Reserve officer
              Reserve officer 6 December 2017 12: 52
              13
              Our country has been publicly humiliated. And our athletes should swallow it all and go there, in your opinion? Show that the country's dignity is separate, and they are separate? Actually, this was what the states sought - a public renunciation of Russia.
              Will they go? This is only if they write a statement on the deprivation of their Russian citizenship. Another cold war is waged against our country, so neutrality will not work.
              And to offer to award the Order of Merit to the Fatherland with people for whom the anthem and flag is an empty phrase is sacrilegious. Of course, there are those for whom the prize is most important. But I can’t consider such citizens of my country. One way ticket.
              1. nznz
                nznz 11 December 2017 08: 59
                0
                in solidarity. Everyone decides at the crucial moment - who is he, trembling, or has the right? Here is such a choice now facing every Olympian. It's a personal matter, but either you are WE, or you are an ordinary goon. Well, I understand everything, well, it took many years to get a medal, but who asked us in the 90s why an engineer who worked in his profession all his life went and worked and survived by anyone. Generally, the origins are in the USSR, when an allegedly amateur variety or supposedly military sport (CSK) was in fact 100% state-owned and simply chose talents that were amateurish to itself. It is more correct to separate all this and draw a professional-amateur border. The state is obliged to engage in the health of the nation — that is, physical culture, the promotion of a healthy lifestyle, sports — and create conditions for this — sports complexes and stadiums, in every yard at least a sports camp, in section schools and preferably Soviet-style! And then the main task of all these add-ons will be fulfilled - the nation will become strong and healthy. Young people will break away from the bottle and other pivasers. It will be a shame to have a stomach at 30 years old is the goal. And the Olympics is the prestige of the state is his other concern.
            3. Winnie76
              Winnie76 6 December 2017 16: 02
              +8
              Quote: uskrabut
              And where are the athletes? Our officials are all about ......, and athletes should take off, although their job is to run fast, high

              And how are officials fundamentally different from athletes? And the state provides those and others, feeds, drinks, dresses. One gives an office, the other a gym. And in this situation, the state must decide whether to participate or not.
              And they can keep the whining of individual athletes with them. They didn’t let me go to the Olympics, I don’t like it - go unload the cars.
            4. dSK
              dSK 7 December 2017 20: 05
              +2
              Quote: uskrabut
              officials

              "The IOC statement says that not a single member of the Russian Ministry of Sports will be invited to the Games."
  3. Moore
    Moore 6 December 2017 06: 49
    30
    What will Moscow come up with in response?

    We are waiting for the performance of Himself.
    If he declares that:
    - honor is more expensive;
    - Olympians, of course, are a pity, but they are essentially hired civil servants with the goal of demonstrating the flag of this state itself;
    - let athletes without nationality go to this humiliating event for their money, but there will be no broadcasts;
    - Mutko rides as a manager at the Youth Sports School of Novy Urengoy, and Zhukov as a history teacher at the gymnasium there,
    he will be supported by the vast majority of the population.
    Today, from a fresh one from Zhukov, who joyfully declared: all investigations against Russian athletes were stopped on 05.12.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX!
    Do they really consider this a victory or are we idiots?
    After all, it’s as if some Feigin said after the verdict on the “couple” was approved by his client: “Hurray, the investigation against you has been terminated!”
    Ugh ...
    1. Dead duck
      Dead duck 6 December 2017 11: 31
      +6
      Quote: Moore
      We are waiting for the performance itself

      And without it, how? People like adults themselves must decide with whom and why ...
      especially since
      Quote: Moore
      - honor is more expensive;


      Quote: Moore
      - Mutko rides as a manager at the Youth Sports School of Novy Urengoy, and Zhukov as a history teacher at the gymnasium there,
      he will be supported by the vast majority of the population.

      it is quite possible and this "conflict" with games could be part of a plan for a change ...
  4. EwgenyZ
    EwgenyZ 6 December 2017 07: 01
    12
    This is no longer a spit, it is already a "medal in the face" (c), if again mopping on it will be worse. With each new “sanction” (sports, political, economic), the “partners” will be more impudent. We need a "otvetka", with "exceeding the permissible level of self-defense" in order to somewhat "cool hotheads" on Capitol Hill.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 6 December 2017 07: 20
      0
      the answer can only fly from SVR and other "shadows". This is a GDP decision.
      and to break the buzz of the sponsors of the mutants - change the entire business system in sports. 10-20 billion dollars down the drain. it’s easier to accept a 20-30% rollback "on the development of market institutions" from the Air Force-S, NBC, etc. "Pis-Pis"
      Armstrong alone can’t get rid of: then the whole sport will fly from the 1992-96 Olympic Games
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 6 December 2017 08: 08
        +6
        The first "bell" was at the Salt Lake City Olympics, then friendship "won" and two gold medals were awarded for figure skating, it was foolishly hoping that Washington would not want to repeat "success". Then it was already necessary to start all these investigations both about the “doping-free” American athletes, and about corruption in the IOC, and for the cancellation of the results of 19 sports games ... Then they didn’t, and now it's too late, “they don’t wave their fists after the fight ..” Now, other body movements are needed, and maybe not in Sports, but, of course, it is necessary to do so that everyone understands why and because of what ...
        1. antivirus
          antivirus 6 December 2017 08: 14
          0
          The first “bell” was at the Salt Lake City Olympics, then friendship “won” and two gold medals were awarded for figure skating,

          In92-96, everything has already happened. the show just didn’t reach the USA - there, out of 96 g
        2. Hoc vince
          Hoc vince 6 December 2017 10: 14
          +7
          And in Rio, they started the start, where the American lost her baton in the relay.
        3. JonnyT
          JonnyT 6 December 2017 10: 17
          +3
          What are you, what are you !! It is necessary to endure and agree that in Russia athletes are completely doping and try to convince that in Russia everything is as the IOC and the USA want, otherwise something irreparable will happen. Mudko and the bugs will resign, and Ernst will lose money from advertising during the broadcast of the Olympics.
          In fact, this is a big victory, Zhukov himself said that the investigation was terminated.

          If we put aside the irony, then there is absolutely no sport left at the Olympics - politics, propaganda and business only. It’s very disgusting that we are being held for cattle, including by Russian sports officials. Places in the national team are bought for money, I am silent about football in general - a bottomless corrupt cesspool.
          Really sorry for the athletes who lost their dreams of life
          1. EwgenyZ
            EwgenyZ 6 December 2017 12: 41
            0
            By the way, Mikhal Sergeyevich G. even cursed about this))) It was funny to read the comments on this topic: https://vz.ru/news/2017/12/6/898344.html
  5. ImPerts
    ImPerts 6 December 2017 07: 20
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    In this regard, I will adhere to the opinion voiced by the blogger Green Tea:
    "Green Tea (Green Tea)
    I will not throw stones at athletes who decide to go to this Olympics to compete under the white flag. I understand everything - years of hard training, the only chance, the dream of a lifetime and all that.
    It is their choice and God is their judge. But I cannot consider them our athletes.
    I don’t need such medals, I’d better go cheer for the decisive match between the national teams of school No. 13 and school No. 14 in the final of the Champions League of Zavokzalny district, fortunately, this fucking IOC will not ban it. No Russia - no Games. "
    https://cont.ws/@greentea/787699
    1. E_V_N
      E_V_N 6 December 2017 10: 35
      +7
      Quote: ImPerts
      I understand everything - years of hard training, the only chance, the dream of a lifetime and all that.

      And why these tales? Run, “train” for at least 20 years, anyway you won’t run 100 meters in 5 seconds, you won’t jump 10 meters in height, and 25 meters long, Bob will not develop the 1st space ... Sports of “high achievements” have been chemistry for a long time and not physics, this must be understood and not done "big surprised eyes." OI has long been not a sport, but a Eurovision type show. And it is not necessary to make a tragedy of universal scale out of suspension from games. It’s time to call a spade a spade and call OI not sports but another “show” and refers to this accordingly.
      1. KaPToC
        KaPToC 6 December 2017 22: 29
        +4
        Quote: E_V_N
        And it is not necessary to make a tragedy of universal scale out of suspension from games.

        Exactly, they left PACE, from Eurovision, what is the “Olympiad” better for?
    2. Winnie76
      Winnie76 6 December 2017 16: 18
      +6
      Quote: ImPerts
      I will not throw stones at athletes who decide to go to this Olympics to compete under the white flag. I understand everything - years of hard training, the only chance, the dream of a lifetime and all that.

      And I will. All these years, the state fed you, watered, dressed, provided gyms, pools, airline tickets and so on. And now, when they’re trying to wipe their feet on the flag of this state, you say, “It's okay, I'll stand under this white rag”
  6. Knowing
    Knowing 6 December 2017 07: 42
    +3
    Well, the situation is NOT at all similar if you compare (as the author pointed out) 64 allied countries in the 80th ... I would like to know who the author considers Russia's allies now and by name. recourse
    1. Yurasumy
      6 December 2017 09: 25
      +2
      The initial situation in the world was meant, not the IOC decision. An article about a global, not a concrete decision by the IOC.
    2. Knowing
      Knowing 6 December 2017 09: 36
      +8
      And finally, appeal to Russian athletes: Think with whom you are, where you are, who you are ...
      1. Hoc vince
        Hoc vince 6 December 2017 10: 22
        +1
        They want our Olympians to drown out the feeling of the Motherland, the honor and dignity of the nation.
  7. Cheldon
    Cheldon 6 December 2017 08: 11
    +1
    Mutko on the soap!
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 6 December 2017 08: 12
    +2
    Now Russia has no allies, only partners ..
    To the peak of the USA they held their Friendship 84 games.
    ..Goodwill games, so officially called..the games were held four times in 1984, 1986, 1994,2001 ..
    1. Yurasumy
      6 December 2017 09: 26
      +1
      No, the first Goodwill Games were held at 1986
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 6 December 2017 09: 47
        +1
        In vain got into a dispute, you're right .. "Goodwill Games" painfully beautiful name, so I thought maybe a double name .. Friendship - Goodwill Games ..
  9. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 6 December 2017 08: 24
    +5
    The main idea of ​​the article is how will Moscow respond? I have a thought, what will the President say? Kudrin and Chubais, I used to forgive him, but if we lose the flag, a symbol of statehood, I don’t know
    It’s not nationality that unites Russians in general, the State unites us, outside the state we quickly assimilate, we forget the roots, the language. That is why there are no strong Russian diasporas abroad, because there is no Russia. The loss of a flag at the Olympic Games is unacceptable.
    1. Antianglosax
      Antianglosax 6 December 2017 10: 37
      +2
      Quote: aybolyt678
      ... what will Moscow answer? I have a thought, what will the President say? Kudrin and Chubais, I used to forgive him, but if we lose the flag, a symbol of statehood, I don’t know ...

      If he slows down, he will lose the last electorate who is ready to come to the polls and vote for Putin. The people will not understand and will not forgive the mattress course.
      1. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 6 December 2017 12: 15
        +1
        Quote: Antianglosaks
        If he slows down, he will lose the last electorate who is ready to come to the polls and vote for Putin.

        Still not lost, and then not lost. With a lack of votes, they’ll come up with something; wizards work in the Central Election Commission.
        1. Baby sitter
          Baby sitter 6 December 2017 16: 52
          0
          Remind me. Who is in charge of the Central Election Commission? And where did he come from ????
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 7 December 2017 21: 02
      +1
      The president? Kudrin and Chubais, I used to forgive him, but if we lose the flag, a symbol of statehood, I don’t know,
      and Serdyukov with Medvedev, too, forgive?
      I'm not so pathetic. I remember EVERYTHING.
      1. aybolyt678
        aybolyt678 7 December 2017 21: 11
        0
        Quote: kotvov
        and Serdyukov with Medvedev, too, forgive?

        Medvedev is a whipping boy, a potential absolution, and Serdyukov is just an operation to misinform foreign media.
        Another thing is that if ours go there, that means we agree with the punishment, i.e. Guilty, that means those athletes who have been deprived of medals are denied the right to appeal.
        a small nuance: the winners will lose medals in a year. Conclusion: why go there? we are deliberately put in a losing position.
        It’s another thing to organize your tournaments with a crazy prize pool. And catch them their champions.
  10. Rusfaner
    Rusfaner 6 December 2017 08: 51
    +3
    Let’s see how many sport “streakbreakers” will appear in South Korea ...
    It will be good if they are released there at their own expense.
  11. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 6 December 2017 08: 56
    +2
    The ax of a sports war, this is only the beginning, the most important thing will be on February 2, when the Yankees begin to squeeze offshore accounts of our "elite" in exchange for surrendering the GDP ... so I don’t see any reason to worry about the Olympics, in the end we won, according to the author, the wars in Syria and Ukraine
  12. NordOst16
    NordOst16 6 December 2017 09: 04
    0
    Mmm ... it's possible that the doping problem was deliberately fanned. But on the other hand, "there is no smoke without fire." And we were let down by the Russian “Snowden” (in fact the same traitor). I do not argue that perhaps all the largest countries have their own doping programs, but so far only Russia has gotten so large.
    I am a little annoyed by the statements (or rather screams) of our state media that there was no doping. If you crap, then accept defeat with honor. And other structures of the state should start digging under the "most active" countries to reveal their fraud (buy potential traitors, find evidence, and so on).
    And as for the boycott of the Olympic Games - on the one hand, I support, and on the other, it’s a pity for the athletes who, due to the boycott, will not be able to get to the Olympic Games.
    1. Varyag_0711
      Varyag_0711 6 December 2017 09: 46
      22
      NordOst16 Today, 09:04
      I am a little annoyed by the statements (or rather screams) of our state media that there was no doping. If you crap, then accept defeat with honor.
      And I’m not a bit, but statements like yours are very annoying! What defeat should we accept? Americans eat dope buckets in the open, hiding behind fig leaflets like, "but the doctor allowed me," and in general, "I'm a very sick athlete." This is not a defeat, it is a farce and Russia should not participate in this farce under any circumstances. Option one, exit the IOC and create an alternative movement in sport on an equal footing.
    2. EwgenyZ
      EwgenyZ 6 December 2017 12: 24
      +4
      Quote: NordOst16
      .... but so far only Russia has gotten so big.

      Are there any facts?
      1. NordOst16
        NordOst16 6 December 2017 12: 32
        +1
        Positive tests for doping (which, as I understand it, a little earlier, in the Russian Federation, were determined as pure). Well, the testimony of runaway leaders.
        1. EwgenyZ
          EwgenyZ 6 December 2017 12: 52
          +4
          Quote: NordOst16
          Positive tests for doping (which, as I understand it, a little earlier, in the Russian Federation, were determined as pure). Well, the testimony of runaway leaders.

          I asked for facts, not your speculations and "testimonies of runaway leaders."
          1. NordOst16
            NordOst16 6 December 2017 14: 54
            0
            Sorry, the IOC Commission and Pavel Anatolyevich did not call me. And, unfortunately, did not participate in the investigation.
          2. NordOst16
            NordOst16 16 December 2017 15: 45
            0
            And with the same success, I can ask you for the facts that the armata is a real battle tank, and not a model created for intimidation.
  13. Igor Nikolaevich
    Igor Nikolaevich 6 December 2017 09: 15
    16
    Of course, I support our athletes, but in this situation I don’t see any reason to finance ours. Once the IOC excluded OCD from its composition, let it sponsor Russian athletes. Everything should be honest, there is no flag, no country, no country, no money. I am against the fact that the money of Russian taxpayers was spent on payment of who knows who and why. When athletes go to the competition under the flag of their country, it is clear that they are going to show their achievements and results, demonstrate the flag of their country, and earn some money. When athletes go anonymous, and each individually must prove his innocence, it is not known to whom, then the question arises: “What is the purpose of this trip?”, And we get the answer, make some money. If our athletes are ready to substitute their faces for spitting and insulting their "colleagues", then let them rely on themselves and do not write open letters to the country's president with a white flag.
    PS. Nothing personal, just dirty politics!
  14. Conductor
    Conductor 6 December 2017 09: 32
    +3
    Persistent rejection is born to OI, IOC generally a place for asses.
  15. Altona
    Altona 6 December 2017 09: 39
    +8
    What is there to discuss? The Olympic Charter was turned into the racial law of the Third Reich, the Olympic flag into a footcloth. To suspend membership in the IOC, payments and broadcasts, and the whole tale. They did without Eurovision, no one died. What is there to discuss? Wishlist sports bureaucrats, Wishlist top athletes running for the loot? So full of commercial starts, no one took away the world and European championships. You can spend money on mass sports and buy good sports equipment at schools.
  16. ando_bor
    ando_bor 6 December 2017 09: 43
    0
    Yes, the Olympics boycott - 80, after 21 years flew into the towers, and in person,
    - this one will fly in, how and when it is not yet clear.
  17. sds87
    sds87 6 December 2017 09: 43
    +2
    Cold war in a hot phase. A pun of some sort. Rodchenkov is already afraid for his life. He does it right. There is one road for traitors - to hell with the boiler.
    1. NordOst16
      NordOst16 6 December 2017 10: 20
      +1
      With Snowden they will have fun there)))
      1. CT-55_11-9009
        CT-55_11-9009 12 December 2017 09: 12
        0
        Quote: NordOst16
        With Snowden they will have fun there)))

        So, for you the traitor is Snowden? Well, that explains a lot. Just change the flag, or turn off the anonymizer.
        1. NordOst16
          NordOst16 16 December 2017 15: 43
          0
          And for his homeland, he is not a traitor? Let's look at this matter objectively.
          1. CT-55_11-9009
            CT-55_11-9009 18 December 2017 08: 47
            0
            Objectively? No problem! If you look objectively, he leaked the correct Old, after which the Yankees combed themselves like lepers. But Rodchenkov flooded the lime tree, and, most likely, clearly ordered. So let's really look at things objectively.
  18. gafarovsafar
    gafarovsafar 6 December 2017 10: 14
    +4
    come on you don’t disgrace yourself anymore! Sasha’s bugs won’t get away or how he even apologized (it’s good that he didn’t even become a position) If you are going to be called a power, act like it should be a power. It’s nice to look at you sometimes and listen and read at all for a long time. . This is not to the face of Russia. Prove that you are those who so selfishly call yourself then allies will appear and for now nothing is visible. It’s clear how you are being kicked and you are sorry to look sickly. and deny his apology
  19. Lev Bronsch
    Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 10: 15
    +3
    Yuri, on the one hand, everything is as you wrote. But here's a hitch, in response to all the nonsense from WADA, our athletes filed 1 lawsuit (cyclists) in the jurisdiction of Ontario, where McLaren lives. Imagine a situation with hundreds of lawsuits? With the assistance of experienced and competent lawyers! Yes, the IOC would not even have spoken about commissions and so on. And no pressure would have passed here. I assure you, a lot of US lawyers, Western Europe are against the introduction of the principle of “presumption of guilt” introduced by Maclaren and the IOC and shocked by violence against the basic principles of law, at least in the interpretation of the 20th century. And for good money, they would have broken in McLaren’s court with WADA like a hot-water bottle! And nobody canceled corporate competition! Moreover, as a result of "evidence of an athlete's doping," these are only Rodchenkov's words !! And that’s it - read the motivational part of the report of the IOC commissions! And as for the case of Legkov, I generally keep quiet ... BUT! For hiring lawyers, filing lawsuits, conducting additional examinations and collecting data, both money and competencies are needed. In most cases, athletes do not have them. And from the state all the support - bleating is wise, and persuasion - let's tolerate it, they will forgive us (((. It's a shame and a shame for people. So you can play in the enemy clearing and by the rules of others, but it’s just to play, to fight, to raise the PR of the company , sues. And we have one wise thing on TV ... and therefore received.
  20. NordOst16
    NordOst16 6 December 2017 10: 19
    +2
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    Americans eat dope in buckets in the open, hiding behind fig leaflets like, "but the doctor allowed me," and in general, "I'm a very sick athlete."

    This is allowed by the rules, and here you will not dig into them, another question is why our athletes do not do the same?
    Quote: Varyag_0711
    What defeat should we accept?

    And the fact that they are large. Like in Sparta, they didn’t beat him for stolen, but for the fact that they caught him.

    Quote: Varyag_0711
    Option one, exit the IOC and create an alternative movement in sport on an equal footing.

    This is not an option at all. And who will participate in these games? 4,5 countries? This will be funny.

    In my opinion, it is necessary to give a fifth point to our special services so that they begin to actively seek evidence of the ILLEGAL use of doping by athletes from other countries. And the doctors of the Olympic team must, from a young age, collect medical histories and create prerequisites so that in the future, our athletes can LEGALLY (like the USA and other countries) use doping. Well, as well (though, if you look at our pharmaceutical industry, it’s hard to believe) develop new drugs and / or create new methods to hide the fact of the use of doping by our athletes.
  21. Lev Bronsch
    Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 10: 24
    +1
    And more than that, I’ll add that many sensible athletes of the USA satellite countries are also not enthusiastic about such decisions of the IOC, as a precedent has been created for taking away medals and removing competitors not by the presence of doping in tests (an objective indicator), but by the words of a certain “witness” !! And what, for example, is preventing the Americans from defeating the Norwegian ski team, and is there anything for that, and collecting 3-4 extra medals? And other sports under such a good blow, the Chinese will definitely be the next)))
    1. BAI
      BAI 6 December 2017 13: 10
      +2
      the Chinese will definitely be the next)

      Will not. China - a) rich, b) does not bend like Russia.
      1. Lev Bronsch
        Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 16: 28
        +1
        Forgive the parallel factors ... There is a precedent, there is at least a technology of spreading the land of a rather big and non-poor country. So they are starting to scale up the project, and in logic - the next blow to the World Cup in our country, and then of course China and all sorts of norges with the French for a snack, although I’m not sure about the French, but they’ll smash the norgs. Yes, just for the beauty, like we are so fair, and if we do not regret it, there are still Poles, Dutch skating)) BUT, of course the priority is Chinese sport. so that you don't think a lot about yourself. By the way, there is a certain defector already blundered about the doping program in China ((
  22. prior
    prior 6 December 2017 10: 34
    +3
    I did not feel such humiliation even with the collapse of the Union.
    Excuses of Smirnov, Zhukov and Medvedeva - “bleating of the lambs”.
    If you go to Korea under the white flag, the same must be raised above the Kremlin.
  23. Overlock
    Overlock 6 December 2017 10: 37
    +2
    hatchery again.
    Nothing will happen, because Russia has no trump cards in its sleeve. Moreover, I can assume that the IOC has significant evidence of the unscrupulousness of our unfortunate leaders, which explains Zhukov’s apology and the absence of lawsuits.
    There is no smoke without fire. Vancouver has 11 team places and 3 gold medals; in Sochi, 1 team place and 13 gold medals. How has the Russian Olympic team grown in 4 years?
    Sure, there was dope. There were other teams. The question was different, why did the one who controlled it sell dope? Why did he tore for the cordon and tore not empty?
    What is the protector of this Rodchenko? Whose teams did he execute?
    There are no answers to these questions, although it is on the surface. While such unsinkable performers as Mutko will determine the development of the country, do not expect good things. And such "Mutko" we have a complete White House
    1. a.sirin
      a.sirin 6 December 2017 14: 13
      +1
      He exploded because several of his "colleagues" suddenly somehow died ...
      1. Overlock
        Overlock 6 December 2017 15: 37
        0
        In February of this year, one after another, with an interval of 12 days, his two colleagues suddenly died - the former leaders of RUSADA (Russian Anti-Doping Agency) Vyacheslav Sinev and Nikita Kamaev. Both are a little older than 50 years.
        1. Lev Bronsch
          Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 16: 30
          +2
          They rinsed the viskar’s mouth ??))) And look at the cemetery, the number of men who died at the age of a little over 50, really about ... uh !!
          1. Overlock
            Overlock 6 December 2017 16: 31
            0
            think a coincidence?
  24. BAI
    BAI 6 December 2017 13: 07
    0
    Today, the world again, like 30 years ago, has become bipolar

    There is a big difference - Russia (unlike the USSR) has no allies, and the United States has significantly more.
    1. Baby sitter
      Baby sitter 6 December 2017 17: 09
      0
      Who feeds more, he has more "allies"! And this is TRUE !!
  25. ont65
    ont65 6 December 2017 13: 39
    +1
    What does this company come up with for the US Olympic Committee does not matter, rather nothing. It is more interesting how the committees of Russia will behave. - What they, unlike the times of the USSR, have now become. Are they boycotting the games on the conditions put forward by the IOC, or will they go individually, as if they were not related to the country that invested in them? There comes a peculiar moment of truth for society and the state. What are they?
  26. vanavatny
    vanavatny 6 December 2017 13: 53
    +2
    on x ... such an olympiad
  27. a.sirin
    a.sirin 6 December 2017 14: 12
    +1
    A very "Soviet" approach to the issue - all in one pile, the ideological confrontation of the two systems and so on. It is naive and, to put it mildly, primitive. Nobody, in fact, “drives Russia out of the Olympic movement because of Syria or Ukraine. Of course, psychologically there is some rejection of the Russian Federation as such, but the Olympics are at stake - huge“ money ”and a complete ban on Russian athletes from participating is a thing for this business beyond.
    The IOC did everything that it could - left the opportunity for athletes to participate in competitions. As for the flag, anthem and so on. - apparently, it was already not possible to provide this.
    Yes, it’s insulting, annoying ... only now biathlon competitions are taking place ... take an interest in how our people perform. They are now on the subject of all sorts of "copper" graze according to the new scheme. And what do we see?
  28. Not smart
    Not smart 6 December 2017 15: 57
    +3
    Now the Olympics is no longer a sport - look at Western athletes and sportswomen, soon the mutants will need to hold the Olympics, not athletes.
    I think it is necessary to answer not symmetrically as usual - to remove the Canadian dollar from the auction (a gift to Grandfather Maclaren) and thoroughly check Coca-Cola and Pepsi with fines.
    And then for sure
    Suddenly the clouds will dance ...
    1. Lev Bronsch
      Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 16: 31
      0
      laughing and that’s right!
  29. 1536
    1536 6 December 2017 16: 16
    +2
    Without the Americans and the British, the air in Moscow at the 80 Olympics was cleaner. They were not afraid of provocations on their part, as there were signals that they could simply bring pathogens of dangerous diseases with them. No one was scandalous, no one “ran across” the races because some African-American did not like the initial result (with all due respect).
    Thus, the Americans cleverly got rid of us as competitors. The next stage is the enticement / theft of our athletes to themselves under various pretexts, including as gene material. Indigenous people of America, these vivisectors are few.
  30. bandabas
    bandabas 6 December 2017 16: 20
    +1
    If our country agrees to such conditions ... So Russia is sold completely. And all statements are dusting in the eyes.
    Vladimir Mayakovsky
    "Broadway"
    Asphalt - glass.
    I go and the link.
    Forests and blades of grass -
    shaved off.
    On North
    from South
    go avenue
    west from east -
    straights.
    And between -
    (where their builder brought!) -
    at home.
    impossible length.
    Alone at home
    up to the stars
    others -
    the length of the moon.
    Yankees
    soles spank
    lazy:
    simple
    and courier lift.
    At 7 o’clock
    human tide
    at 17 hours -
    low tide.
    The mechanics are grinding
    ringing and din
    and people
    dumb in the ringing.
    And only slow down
    chew on chuingam
    to quit:
    "Mek Money?"
    Mother
    chest
    gave to the child.
    Child,
    with nose drops
    sucks
    like
    not a chest, but a dollar -
    busy
    serious
    business.
    The work is over.
    Body body
    in continuous
    electric wind.
    Do you want underground -
    take sobway
    On sky -
    take the elevator.
    Wagons
    are going
    and smoke under the growth,
    and in the heels
    house
    rub
    and will endure
    tail
    to Brooklyn Bridge
    and hide
    burrow
    under the hudson.
    You were blinded
    you
    made a trip.
    But
    like a drum roll
    out of the darkness
    at the crown:
    "Coffee Maxwell
    buzzing
    that di last drop. "
    A lamp
    how will
    dig night
    Well, I will report to you -
    a little fire!
    Look to the left -
    mommy mother!
    To the right -
    my mother is mommy!
    There is something to see the Moscow lads.
    And in a day
    they don’t reach the end.
    This is New York.
    This is Broadway.
    Gau doo doo doo!
    I am delighted
    from new york city.
    But
    cap
    I won’t tear it from my temple.
    Soviet
    own pride:
    to the bourgeois
    look down.
    1925 year
  31. Lev Bronsch
    Lev Bronsch 6 December 2017 16: 42
    +3
    Well, philosophical - Mutko certainly wisely unconditional, BUT! In the capitalist world, trying to win the Soviet system of sports of the highest achievements is utopia !! It’s just that the wrong vector of development was proposed and implemented. hence the result! Those are giant funds from professional sports, and this is football and hockey and basketball, and prof. athletics and stuff, stuff, stuff - in the amount of more than $ 3-4 billion a year, to spend on physical education and mass rehabilitation of the population, coupled with advertising campaigns for healthy lifestyle !! So in 10 years we would not have recognized the country, and only in a positive sense !! Instead, under 5 thousand prof. athletes who eat giant budgets, mainly state corporations and local / federal and under 10 thousand functionaries who also live curly. That’s the question - to disperse 15 thousand people with rags and get out of any IOC shmok, fifa and ... (no words), and get healthy 145 million people !!! And if someone is such a talented athlete, then God help you - look for sponsors, win medals, sign advertising / sponsorship contracts, in general, pure capitalism))) Or we will feed 15-20 thousand drum eaters and get face to face from IOC, WADA, etc. Or who doubts that they will continue to scoff at me?
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 6 December 2017 19: 38
      0
      I agree. The situation is precisely what should be pushed to this. However, hardly anyone will understand this.
  32. Overlock
    Overlock 6 December 2017 16: 44
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    I really hope that I can already see and understand how the GDP will replace such “devotees with dumbasses” ... There is a “creeping” change of elites and the old, “Yeltsin” one, understands this very well.

    you are probably mistaken. Today's government is all immigrants from St. Petersburg and Putin's nominees. There will be no change.
    During a traditional annual interview with Russian television channels, the head of government "tacitly announced that he was a worthy candidate for prime minister in the new government after the presidential election."
    So you can calm down for those who are thirsty for change - everything will be as before - "There is no money, but you hold on"
  33. s352
    s352 6 December 2017 16: 45
    +2
    The country is BIG, there is plenty of money, there we put asphalt five times in one place, but in puddles! To organize an independent Olympics, whoever wants to let them come. Korean results - not to recognize and criticize. All winning athletes have the same privileges as they should have. Then no one will run or go anywhere. $ 15 million not to pay, what will they do to us? again impose sanctions - it's ridiculous! Arrest property abroad? - we also have their property
  34. kriten
    kriten 6 December 2017 17: 59
    +1
    Officials from the president’s team showed that the main thing is the preservation of their posts, and not some athletes. That is why the question of the refusal of athletes to participate is so complex. In the case, it would be necessary to boycott, but the fact that sports officials essentially boycotted the athletes' defense prevents it.
  35. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 6 December 2017 19: 16
    0
    Quote: svp67
    And I won’t be surprised if at the home championship the Russian team will play under the “neutral” - white flag ...

    I said a week ago that they would try to remove Russia from participating in the 2018 World Cup, replacing it at the last moment with another team. It will be even more humiliating, but while such bureaucrats as Mutko and Zhukov rule, it is very likely. These bureaucrats have completely different interests, which have nothing to do with the interests of the country and the people. yes
  36. Awaz
    Awaz 6 December 2017 19: 36
    +2
    unfortunately our athletes, if not merged, are close to this. In addition, the Guarantor has already confirmed that he is not against the participation of Russians in this disgrace. Then tomorrow, if I am not mistaken, an official response will be given to this provocation. It will sound along the way like this: we should lie under the IOC by love. This is an international holiday and we should participate in any status there, even though the last sixes (I apologize for the camp slang ()
    Personally, my opinion is that the authorities should announce a boycott of the IOC and begin a judicial showdown. Only it was necessary to do this, not even yesterday, but many many years ago. And even yesterday, the situation could have been slightly corrected if the Russian Federation’s tough stance on this topic had been conveyed to the IOC. However, as always ... screwed up.
    I also think that athletes can be allowed to participate in this shame - in any status. This is a matter of their conscience and self-esteem.
    Anyway, two or three years will pass, we will all forget and stop spitting in their direction.
    Unfortunately, the farther, the more pronounced the degradation of power in the Russian Federation. Already there is not even any KhPP - only failure after failure and the delivery of positions wherever possible.
  37. Old military officer
    Old military officer 6 December 2017 20: 22
    0
    Quote: K0
    Quote: dsk
    Will VGTRK Holding retain its position?

    why shouldn't he save her? I'm more interested where similar statements from the First and the rest.

    Maybe you also want a similar statement from Dozhd? So do not wait, sorry for the pun.
  38. Radikal
    Radikal 7 December 2017 00: 35
    0
    US and IOC dug up a sports war tomahawk, which will return to them a boomerang
    Stop writing nonsense!
    \
  39. Archon
    Archon 7 December 2017 06: 12
    0
    Salvage creates evil, and does not win. And if the loot conquers evil, then only if evil is an adverb. And the world is multipolar, the multipolar world of dough. Perhaps, only the DPRK does not enter the world of dough, but only indirectly participates. But they have their own crazies there.
  40. Valery Saitov
    Valery Saitov 7 December 2017 08: 31
    0
    Washington, by force, “convinced” the world that it was time to abandon the old principle of inviolability of borders and replace it with a new one: the right of peoples to self-determination.
    Well, guys and the flag in your hands-LDNR have already decided and WHAT. Decide guys.
  41. Captain Nemo
    Captain Nemo 7 December 2017 08: 55
    0
    Unfortunately, Putin’s personal principle of not letting go of his own is often against him. If Mr. Frome All My Heart, which is certainly up to date on all doping cuisine, would be removed immediately, then the damage could be less
  42. andrew42
    andrew42 7 December 2017 13: 08
    +2
    Last night for almost an hour on the Radio KP, the notorious Norkins couple “pulled an owl on the globe”, they say, our poor athletes must be supported, let them go under the white flag. Contrary to the results of simultaneous SMS polls, which apparently couldn’t be cut much, they had to announce at the end that 70% was unequivocal "Do not go, don’t sponsor, don’t pay." And then they enchanted everything with a couple of hysterical SMS, according to which 70% of Russians get the same fools - well, the unreasonable do not understand that it is still possible and necessary to humiliate ourselves. If the journalist Vdovin still somehow balanced the decency, though he also assented strongly to Norkin, then mamzel Norkina did not let out a screech, so Norkin had to cool her from time to time with conciliatory phrases. All this was listened to extremely filthy. And again, the same howls in favor of those who feed from the sport: "Yes, then we will be allowed," and "we will start from scratch." There were no bans on the Athletics Championship, on the Paralympic team, as there was, about the backstory is silent. The article correctly remembered both Moscow-80 and Lake Plesid-84. We were humiliated on the sports field, humiliated, and WILL BE humiliated. Thanks to the position of our authorities. “White flag! What a position ...” (John Merry, “Treasure Island” film). This phrase is by no means ridiculous. For me personally, every athlete who goes to this “almpeade” - will die as a compatriot - I will neither be sick nor watch more for this. another false argument, they say, "we will not let competitors take medals." Well, dumb excuse, just that-sing. To condemn a "neutral" athlete, to take away a medal from him - this is much easier. And this will just show that "Russian Nichrome can not without doping." But no, they want to "participate" in this mocking disgrace. “White flag! What a position ...” (John Merry, “Treasure Island” film). This phrase is by no means ridiculous.
  43. zibo1668
    zibo1668 8 December 2017 00: 21
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    The Olympic Games always serve to build bridges to bring people together. The Olympic Games never serve as walls to separate people. The Olympic Games are a sports festival of human diversity and close unity.
    1. Nemesis
      Nemesis 8 December 2017 09: 42
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      Not this time...
  44. Nemesis
    Nemesis 8 December 2017 09: 41
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    And if only to close the Russian market for Coca-Cola ... let the US calculate the losses ...
  45. Rozinkov
    Rozinkov 9 December 2017 02: 59
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    I read a good comment on this subject, here it is: the IOC has set Russia on its knees. Now the choice is Russia- Suck or not suck.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 9 December 2017 21: 31
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      Or maybe myself?
  46. NordUral
    NordUral 9 December 2017 21: 30
    +1
    It would be good. This is me to the last paragraph. In the meantime, everything is sadly seen.
  47. nznz
    nznz 10 December 2017 12: 34
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    If you look globally at the problems of relations with the United States, it all boils down to one thing. Russia is humiliated by different means, but it suffers the mischief of partners (both words in quotation marks).
    What to do? (with)
    The answers are complete and they have already been voiced - I allow myself a gag - I do not pretend to be exceptional.
    1. Well, if we do not like, why pull your lips in a kiss? How to make at least respect?
    For starters, I would do everything to close all American factories in Pepsi and other rubbish. With smart, smart, with fools, that's the only way. Business will tell management that something went wrong.
    This can be done with other amerovskimi corporations. Do we have that soda can not release? Vitan, how much he is beating, and the Americans offered to buy, no, the patriot owner, a former wren-our man-to help him and he will close the topic with useful soda (approved by gastroenterologists and the Institute of Pediatrics, it's all natural).
    Beer is dreams, but Pepsi and others are also soda, i.e. guano. Who drank Zhigulevskoe in the USSR understands this and does not drink carbonated guano.

    2. The blows must be accurate — select officials — at all levels in the IOC, and in general this is a general principle — and look for their business — it's easier than looking for ours:) —to create them not comfortable — and push-evil must be avenged.
    Close their entry

    3. About IMOC outputs and others, it's high time. As some say, the Olipian movement died when the amers were allowed to run the baton, everything was corrupt and everything was bought by them for a long time, why participate in other people's dances. We create our own-honest, funny and beautiful.
    4. From the wishes, I would like to have a public reading of the speeches of our functionaries on the IOCE — what did they problem there?
    Actually, those who live long, like 65 years old, remember in Top Secret articles about corrupt Olympic officials from Samaranch and ours, the whole top brought in loot and patched itself not weakly.
    here, too, need to dig.
    5. Separate our sport from the state is the root, or you are an amateur or you are a pro.
  48. Vladimir_R
    Vladimir_R 11 December 2017 04: 57
    +1
    Speak out

    I got acquainted with the IOC evidence (published in the public domain) and, as a person familiar with the "topic" (albeit indirectly, but enough to express an opinion), I consider the evidence to be fair.

    I do not consider it reasonable to quarrel with the IOC and arrange "their" games, because a maximum of 5-6 countries will participate in these competitions, China will not participate exactly (a little lower I will write why) and in these competitions, metaphorically speaking, athletes who did not die after an hour the finish field will be awarded. Of course, everyone uses sports pharmacology to one degree or another, but if control is reduced to the level of formalities, there will be too many deaths.

    I see the problem not in the IOC, not in the global conspiracy against Russia, not in Rodchenkov and not in Russophobia in general. I see the problem in the complete (or almost complete) absence of sports pharmacology, the lack of specialized research institutes and specialists (the consequence is the low quality of education and science). In contrast to the same China, in which similar is at its height and which will not compete with its achievements with the "farm" of the middle of the last century.
  49. nznz
    nznz 11 December 2017 09: 01
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    Quote: dsk
    Quote: uskrabut
    officials

    "The IOC statement says that not a single member of the Russian Ministry of Sports will be invited to the Games."

    Mutko will not be lifelong admitted as an official to the OI ...
  50. nznz
    nznz 11 December 2017 09: 08
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir_R
    Speak out

    I got acquainted with the IOC evidence (published in the public domain) and, as a person familiar with the "topic" (albeit indirectly, but enough to express an opinion), I consider the evidence to be fair.

    I do not consider it reasonable to quarrel with the IOC and arrange "their" games, because a maximum of 5-6 countries will participate in these competitions, China will not participate exactly (a little lower I will write why) and in these competitions, metaphorically speaking, athletes who did not die after an hour the finish field will be awarded. Of course, everyone uses sports pharmacology to one degree or another, but if control is reduced to the level of formalities, there will be too many deaths.

    I see the problem not in the IOC, not in the global conspiracy against Russia, not in Rodchenkov and not in Russophobia in general. I see the problem in the complete (or almost complete) absence of sports pharmacology, the lack of specialized research institutes and specialists (the consequence is the low quality of education and science). In contrast to the same China, in which similar is at its height and which will not compete with its achievements with the "farm" of the middle of the last century.

    Deep (in my opinion) error.
    The feeling that you are not living in Russia.
    It is clear that these doping dances are only a link in the global offensive on the Russian Federation. The blind can’t only be seen. The deception began even with people of influence (who they are and how they are promoted can be read literally but clearly in the book by Marina Yudenich Neft, everything is there described and she stood very close) such as a tagged reptile and a drunk, well, the red-haired devil from privatization in the same company, as well as Yakovlev (he and Kalugin were just recruited enemies while studying in the USA) .Then drain and destruction began. Gorbi deceived like a sucker, in response to the GDR, NATO was stuck to our borders. Deception is the US government policy towards countries that they consider Papuan. Alas, we are also Papuans for them. I’m jarring when our president calls them partners, well, what kind of partners are they? partners? The next steps are Ukraine. 23 years Chernomyrdin and the pharmacist driven out of business Zurabov were blind. Missed Kuchma who laid the cornerstone book